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Ukraine Pushes Into Russia, Presidential Campaign Update, Olympics Near End

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It's been busy, busy, busy on the track, in the ring, on the hardwood, on the mat,

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all sorts of places where competitors face off.

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A crescendo of competition as the Olympic Games head into tomorrow's closing ceremony.

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I'm Scott Simon.

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I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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10,000 athletes, two weeks of victory, near victory and drama.

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We'll have the latest from Paris.

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And we have the latest from the campaign trail.

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Kamala Harris met crowds in Arizona.

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Donald Trump rallied last night in Montana.

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And the battle lines in the war between Russia and Ukraine are shifting.

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We'll tell you where.

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So stay with us.

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First up today, Ukraine, or rather Russia, Ukrainian forces shocked Moscow this week

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by doing something they hadn't done before, launching a substantial invasion into Russia

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itself.

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Ukraine's cross-border incursion into Western Russia is now on its fifth day.

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Russian forces appear to be struggling to mount an effective counterattack.

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NPR's Greg Myrie is in Kiev.

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Greg, thanks for being with us.

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Hi, Scott.

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How did Ukraine manage this, sending a large ground force straight across the Russian border

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in the middle of a war?

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Yeah, Ukraine clearly identified a vulnerable spot on Russia's western border.

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Russia clearly wasn't paying attention, and Ukraine sent these ground troops rumbling

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across its northeastern border in armored vehicles, nothing hidden here, into Western

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Russia on Tuesday morning.

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The Ukrainian forces are at least six miles or so inside Russia's Kursk region, and we're

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getting all sorts of reports that small units may have penetrated much deeper.

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The Ukrainians are operating in, or have taken control of, numerous villages in at least

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one town.

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Videos on social media show a burned-out column of Russian military vehicles, dozens of Russian

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soldiers surrendering, large numbers of Russian civilians fleeing by car.

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Now, neither Russia nor Ukraine is saying much, so we're trying to put this together

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like a jigsaw puzzle where we only have a small number of the pieces.

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Just a week ago, we were talking about the Russian offensive in Ukraine.

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How's Russia responding now that it's on the defensive?

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Well, in a word, struggling.

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Russian leader Vladimir Putin has been holding meetings with top national security officials

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at the Kremlin.

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Some of this has been televised in an attempt to reassure Russians, and the military officials

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are telling Putin that troop reinforcements are on the way, that they're defeating the

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Ukrainians, and they'll regain control of the border very soon.

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Putin is clearly unhappy in some of this video, and these reports appear to be way too rosy.

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Russian military bloggers are saying the fighting is not going well for Russia.

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They describe the Russian response as chaotic, the panicked civilians are fleeing, and the

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Ukrainians seem to just keep attacking.

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Do we know what Ukraine's goal is with this high-risk operation?

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You know, Scott, we don't.

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What we have right now is just a lot of speculation.

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Now, in remarks, in his nightly address, Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky, said, quote,

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Russia brought war to our land and should feel what it's done.

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So there's definitely this psychological component of what's going on the offensive, raising

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morale in Ukraine, which has indeed happened, and putting Russia on the defensive, which

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has also happened.

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Now, we only have hints of the possible military strategy here.

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I spoke with one of Zelensky's top advisers this week.

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His name is Mikhailo Podolak.

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He said Russia has been attacking from these border areas without fear of retaliation on

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Russian territory, and that needs to change.

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Here he is speaking through an interpreter.

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We have to push them back in some areas if we want to make those areas safe for us.

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And we are creating this buffer zone.

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So I would just add, Scott, that it could be extremely difficult to hold on to Russian

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territory if the Russians make a big push to get it back, which they seem to be doing.

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And Greg, how's the fighting inside Ukraine going?

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Yeah, Ukraine is still on the defensive at home, and it's struggling to halt or at least

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limit a Russian offensive in the eastern Donbass region.

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The Russian forces have seized a number of villages in recent weeks, making it one of

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their more successful ground operations in well over a year.

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The Russians just send wave after wave of troops towards Ukrainian lines, and they've

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been suffering massive losses with these attacks, but they have advanced.

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And Scott, we're just at this rare moment in the war where both the Russians and Ukrainians

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are on the offensive at the same time, though, obviously, in different places.

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And Prez Greg Myrie in Kiev, thanks so much for being with us.

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Sure thing, Scott.

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Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, have been

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barnstorming the country this week, rallying with supporters in key swing states.

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The Harris-Walz ticket is only three weeks old, and the candidates are moving at breakneck

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speed as Democrats prepare for the party's convention later this month.

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And Bureau White House correspondent Deepa Shivaram has been traveling with Harris.

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She joins us now from Phoenix.

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Deepa, thanks for being with us.

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Thanks for having me.

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Busy few days.

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Campaign trying to introduce the ticket and all those swing states.

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What kind of reception?

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I mean, so far, Harris and Walz have been greeted with this huge jolt of energy.

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I mean, in Phoenix last night, there were almost 20,000 people in the arena.

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In Detroit, 15,000 people came to a rally at an airport hangar.

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And, you know, Harris was already starting to gather large crowds in places like Atlanta

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and Milwaukee before she announced Governor Walz as her running mate.

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But since he joined the ticket just on Tuesday, it's brought on this extra wave of intrigue

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from people, many of whom hadn't heard of Walz before, but are learning about his record

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as a former teacher and coach and elected leader, of course, in Minnesota.

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And so far, how has he fared under that kind of increased scrutiny?

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I mean, right. Big change for Governor Walz in just one week, right?

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He comes across as a very enthusiastic partner to Harris.

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You know, he's been talking about bringing joy into the campaign, reminding crowds that

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there are only about three months left until Election Day.

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And he keeps saying, you know, quote, we can sleep when we're dead.

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And, you know, keep in mind, this is a pretty critical time for the campaign because polling

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shows that most Americans don't really know anything about Walz.

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And there's sort of this race from Democrats on one side and Republicans on the other to

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define him as quickly as they can.

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Republicans are trying to attack him on his military record.

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Meanwhile, Democrats are highlighting his background growing up in Nebraska and in rural

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America. And, you know, it's a stark contrast from Harris, who grew up from, you know,

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Oakland, California.

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But something Harris has emphasized this week is that despite their differences, they do

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have a lot in common.

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Seemingly worlds apart, but the same people raised us good people, hardworking

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people, people who had pride in their hard work.

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And that was her speaking to union workers in Detroit on Thursday.

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And, you know, that's kind of been the similar message she's been taking other stops

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to. Interesting, you point out all the interest in trying to get a handle on Governor

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Walz because awful a lot of voters also would like to know more about Kamala Harris and

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what her policies will be if they will differ much from President Biden's.

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Yeah, I mean, that has been a really big question this week.

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You know, they had to get through this V.P.

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process, but I think you will see more of a focus on defined policy ideas coming down

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the pipeline. You know, here in Arizona, of course, one thing she was really speaking

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about last night was immigration, the border.

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She said she wanted a border and a, quote, earned pathway to citizenship.

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This, of course, is an issue that at this point at Trump fares better than her on among

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voters. Speaking of Donald Trump in his running mate, J.D.

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Vance, who held a few events this week, how did those go?

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Well, you know, Vance has been really hitting walls.

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He's also a veteran, of course, on his military record and experience.

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Like I mentioned earlier, Trump, for his part, held a really lengthy press conference on

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Thursday, and he's been really focused on crowd size.

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And Paris Deepa Shivaram, thanks so much for being with us.

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Have a good time on the trail.

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Thank you.

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And finally today on the podcast, the Olympics, Paris was filled with medal events Friday,

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eight in track and field alone.

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The French played in the men's soccer final and the Algerian boxer at the center of a

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gender controversy box for gold.

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The U.S. and China are very close in the race to see who can claim the most gold medals.

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And today brings a couple of big games and opportunities to go ahead in the medal count.

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NPR sports correspondent Becky Sullivan is there in Paris and joins us.

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Becky, thanks for being with us.

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Good morning, Scott.

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Let's begin with track and field.

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Americans ran two big relay races, the four by 100 meters, both men's and women's.

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Substantially different outcomes, weren't they?

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Yes, no doubt.

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Let me start with the bad one first, which was the men.

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The U.S. had hoped to have the sprinter Noah Lyles competing.

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He just won the 100 meter dash about a week ago, but he had to bow out of the relay final

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because he tested positive for COVID.

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So the rest of the team was talented, but they just couldn't put it together yesterday.

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They like really badly bobbled a handoff of the baton.

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And so not only did they not medal, but then the salt in the wound were eventually

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disqualified over this messed up handoff.

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The handoffs really have been a problem for the U.S.

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over the years in the relays.

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And the American women also struggled a little bit last night with it.

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But the good news there was the track star Sha'Carri Richardson.

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She was the anchor, the dramatic last runner in the race.

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The U.S. was in fourth place when she got the baton and she booked it.

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And in fact, had this amazing sort of meme-worthy moment where she pulled ahead

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in the first place, looked over at the runners who were now behind her in this

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like gotcha triumphant way, secured the gold medal for the U.S.

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and also her first Olympic gold.

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And a historic gold medal in U.S.

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women's weightlifting, right?

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So this is a great story here.

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Olivia Reeves is a 21 year old college student at the university

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of Tennessee in Chattanooga.

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She was a favorite in the light heavyweight division and she

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came in and she crushed it.

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She set a new Olympic record in the lift.

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That's called the snatch.

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And then she came just shy of another record in the other

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lift called the clean and jerk.

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And as you say, it's the first gold medal for the U.S.

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in women's weightlifting since before Olivia Reeves was even alive.

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Uh, women's weightlifting amazingly was only added to the

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Olympics back in the year 2000.

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Um, and that was the last time the U.S.

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won one of the golds.

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And Iman Khalif, the Algerian boxer, uh, she won a gold last night after

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being at the center of a controversy over who ought to be allowed

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to participate in women's sports.

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You were there.

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What was it like?

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Yeah, it was really something.

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Um, so just to give some context, the controversy around her comes from

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claims by the international boxing association that she, uh, along with

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another female boxer here at the Olympics had failed two gender eligibility

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tests over the past couple of years.

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But there've just been a lot of questions about those tests.

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The IBA hasn't released proof or really details about them.

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Um, additionally for context, the IBA has deep ties to Russia and there have

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long been concerns about corruption in the organization so much so that the

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Olympics cut ties with the IBA last year before all of this.

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And so over the past couple of weeks, Olympic officials, uh, had defended Khalif.

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They say she's eligible.

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They say that her participation has nothing to do with

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inclusion or anything like that.

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So anyway, last night she was up against the Chinese boxer Yang Lu in

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the gold medal match and Khalif won in a unanimous decision.

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Afterward, she said defiantly, I'm a woman like any other woman.

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I was born a woman.

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I lived as a woman.

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I've competed as a woman.

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There's no doubt about it.

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Becky, two big U.S.

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medal opportunities for gold medals today come in team sports, women's

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soccer, and, and men's basketball.

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They're playing France.

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Okay.

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They are.

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I'm going to be a little divided about this.

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So give us a preview.

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Okay.

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Well, the U S these are two big, huge team opportunities.

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And today they need a little bit of a lift because the women's water

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polo team, which has been one of the most dominant teams at the Olympics

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these last couple of decades lost in the bronze medal match this morning.

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So they're going to go home empty handed.

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So in women's soccer, this is a redemption for the U S women's team.

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After they got bounced early out of the FIFA women's world cup last year,

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they are playing Brazil today.

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It would be the first gold medal in women's soccer since 2012.

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And then for team USA men's basketball, as you say, a huge game

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tonight against the hosts, France.

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The crowd is going to be absolutely electric.

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Um, the U S team came very close to losing a couple of nights

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ago against Serbia.

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They were down almost the whole game into the last couple of minutes.

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When finally these NBA MVPs, Steph Curry, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, each did

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their thing to seize that victory back.

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And I was there, Scott, and I got to say it was one of the best basketball

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games I've ever seen in my life.

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And I am going to be there tonight.

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One of my gosh, NPR sports correspondent, Becky Sullivan in Paris.

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Thanks so much, Becky.

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You are welcome, Scott.

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And that's up first for Saturday, August 10th.

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Technologies that say, I care about you.

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