Child Trafficking with Craig ‘Sawman’ Sawyer

2024-07-30 00:58:55

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Pirates vs Tyrants This is the Tom Ren show where we practice piracy on the enemies of freedom and liberty.

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Hello everybody and welcome to the show. We are excited to be here today and I am excited to talk about a topic that is truly, truly dear to my heart. The issues we're seeing in this country with child trafficking are monumental, monumental, and it's on a level that's hard to even fathom. You know, when we think about this, the United States is literally the global leader in child sex trafficking. We win.

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We're the winners, right? We're the champs. We have more people trafficking children for sex than any other nation in the world. We export children for sex, we transport children for sex.

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It is sick on a level that we can't even fathom. There's not just credible rumors, but hard evidence, hard, hard evidence that child sex and that whole realm is being used to blackmail public officials all over the country. We see pedophiles and perverts all over this country just glomming onto this. And it's one of the most protected groups of people on the planet. No one is allowed to question the official narratives or the official anything with regards to sex trafficking in children. If you do, you get into trouble.

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And we all know that it's happening, we all know that it's occurring. But for some reason, this is a sacred cow that nobody's able to get into, except for people who have enter. My friend Craig Sawyer, Craig is one of, and there's a number of groups, you know, we see this in a number of places, but there's a lot of underground groups. And not surprisingly, I guess a lot of them are headed up by vets. Former military, former special forces groups like that, who are working very diligently to unmask and to deal with this just sick, disgusting issue.

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Now, if you believe some of the conspiracy theory out there, and I would remind you all that yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's truth. You would see that across this country, there are credible allegations that this is the mechanism of control that is being used to manipulate. A lot of people who are public figures, whether they're elected or unelected, is that true? Well, the thing is is, it's very difficult to prove. I would ask why the Epstein list isn't public yet, why is nobody sharing that?

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If there's nothing to hide, why are we hiding it? You know, we continue to hide everything that there is to hide about child sex trafficking. Just hearing me talk about it in such an upfront way has probably caused some of the people to feel uncomfortable. Some of you guys watching might feel uncomfortable, and if you are, you should be, you should be uncomfortable. Knowing that our nation is leading the world in sex trafficking of children.

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There is no more sick and perverted crime on this planet. I literally, I just there aren't words for it. So when you talk to guys like Craig, you find that they know what's going on now. Whether or not the data or evidence they have is stuff that we can use in a courtroom varies.

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A lot of times, the guys like Craig and these different groups that are combating sex trafficking, they will go in and they will stop it. Right? Because there's so much bureaucracy around it that if you try to stop it, you get caught up in the bureaucracy and the people scurry away. And unfortunately for a lot of our vets and a lot of the people who are looking into this nightmarish problem. They're not willing to let the bad guys get away and continue on, so they just go in and stop it, save the kids and move on.

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But because of the corruption in the system, their actions are then maybe not eligible for review in the courts, or not eligible for review by law enforcement. Except in rare occasions, now you do run into a rare occasion where law enforcement will actually do something on it. And we're going to talk about that. If you guys live in Tennessee, if you're in or around the Nashville area, make sure you're staying tuned in on this. I want you to pay attention because there is some corruption going on in Nashville.

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That, I think, is mind-blowing. Nashville, home of country music, you know, America, God, Family Country, Nashville. We're not talking about Hollywood, we're not talking about San Francisco, we're not talking about New York.

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We're talking about Nashville, Tennessee, and Nashville's a Republican state. And so we need the Republican legislature and the Republican leadership to do what they ought to be doing down there. But more on that in a minute. Let me begin.

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I want to introduce Craig. Craig is a vet, He's a warrior, He's working in the child trafficking area, He's doing everything he can to stop that.

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And he has a pretty heroic story. How are you doing today, Craig?

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I'm doing well Tom, thanks for having me on and covering this tough subject.

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Well, this is a passion. This is something that, as I've indicated to you, if we can do anything, anything to shine the light of truth on what's occurring with these perverts and pedophiles. I'm in. And so Craig, tell everybody your background. I mean, it's not like, I mean, all of our vets deserve our respect, but you kind of went above and beyond.

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You weren't, you know, you worked real hard, did some amazing things in the military.

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Let's start out there.

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Well, I started off in the Marine Corps and I wanted to go into Force Recon, and when I learned they weren't doing much with Force Recon. In those days, in the early 80s, I got out of the Marine Corps, went into the Navy and went to seal. Team 1. I got combat action in Desert Shield, Desert Storm. I became a sniper sniper instructor and got picked up for DevGRU and operated at the highest level in counterterrorism. People just refer to it as Seal Team 6..

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And I got a lot of experience there, met a lot of people. Then I got out and did. Five years of federal law enforcement, went to school to become a federal criminal investigator, became an air marshal, managed 210 agents, and then ended up having to blow the whistle on a high-ranking FBI SES-level executive. And they did eventually fire him for gross mismanagement and retaliation. But not until he, not until after. He'd used terror tactics, using his wife's FBI agents to terrorize my family while he sent me out of town.

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It was just egregious abuse of authority and they did, like I say, eventually fire him for that. But that moved me out of federal law enforcement, into the high-threat mobile security realm for the Department of State and our intelligence community. Moving high-ranking officials around in the war zones to keep them safe as they carried out their official duty for the United States. And then I got into film and television, trying to transition home more, and that's where I ran into a scenario.

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We were in Africa filming a series for Animal Planet and Discovery Channel called Rhino Wars Battleground Rhino Wars. And we were combating poachers there, rhino poachers to try to save the last of an endangered species. And it was in that that I realized the producer really wanted to save a species. By showing the struggle, showing the fight to save these rhinos and broadcasting it to people all around the world. To bring greater political pressure against the crime, stronger legislation against it, and greater funding to save the animals, well, fast forward. Several years after that, a friend of mine from the intelligence community that had grown up just north of Houston, where I had let me know about child trafficking, how pervasive it is in the United States, and that Tom is when I realized child trafficking is in. The United States is a covert operation run domestically at industrial scale.

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And that's when I realized there's so much corruption that has to allow this. That the biggest thing that I could do against this harm being perpetrated against the children is expose it. I mean, the Bible calls us to expose evil. Sunlight is the best antiseptic for corruption. And that's why I filmed a very powerful documentary called Contra Land that walks people through the basic facts of what's going on with child trafficking in the United States. How we got here, how it got so big and what we can do about it. And so now we run joint operations with federal and local law enforcement against the predators.

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We've got 27 arrests so far with a 100 conviction rate, and we've got 87 warrants for more arrests on child predators who have already committed the crimes. But law enforcement only need to serve those warrants. So that's what we do. We run a radio show, a television show, called Defending Our Children, bringing experts on to expose it and empower people.

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So we're fighting on all fronts, but that's who we are and what we do, and that's kind of my background.

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So, I mean, for anybody that's, yeah, I don't know, asleep here. This isn't a guy who's a joke. This is a guy who made it to the top levels of counterterrorism, made it to the top levels of military, top levels of civilian law enforcement. I mean, this is a guy, Craig is you got to understand something, folks, Craig is as credible of a guy as you're going to find.

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So, you know, you're going to get attacked, you're going to get this, you're going to get that. And if you're not getting pushback, if you're not getting called names, then you aren't doing anything. So, you know, this is occurring, Craig's fighting and, you know, getting attacked, and that's just the name of the game.

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It's like, it's kind of like, what I've done with lawfare, right? I mean, this is what you're doing is very similar to what I do, right? We try and educate people on issues, we try and push for change. Yeah, we do it, sometimes in the courts, sometimes in the media, sometimes in the legislature.

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But it's the same sort of thing, right? It's the same sort of thing. And you know, what you mentioned there, Craig, I thought, was really interesting because this is something that we hear about with. I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of part and parcel for the Green Berets. You know, the use of infiltration and propaganda to manipulate an issue, and it's something that the bad guys have used against America to great effect.

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And it's interesting that, you know, we learn from their tactics and we're going to try and do the same thing. We're going to try and make sure everybody can see the truth about child trafficking, you know, and use that to motivate change. So you know, what's good for bad can be good for good to that extent. So you guys are running ops and you're helping. And you know, Craig got a hold of me not too long ago and he shared with me some information.

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That there's a really good group of cops down in the Nashville area, good group of people who are digging into this. And I'm going to tell you, everybody says to me, Well, hey Renz, you know if child trafficking is this big of an issue, you know? If it's occurring on this scale, how come no cops are doing anything about it? They all know? Well, let us tell you a little bit about how this works, right?

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So if you're a cop and you want to investigate something, that's typically fine, but if it's child sex trafficking, well, that's another question. And the reason? There's a lot of reasons for that. Now. I would suggest that one of the reasons is the number of corrupt people who are being blackmailed, who are in power because of this. I think that may be something, there might be something to that.

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Now, just asking that question gets you in trouble. But look no further than Jeffrey Epstein. What do you think, Craig? I mean, you've been investigating this for a while now, you've been working on this. Do you think? is it your opinion? and to what extent?

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Do you think on a national level, before we get to Nashville, let's talk about on a national level. Do you think, or have you seen actual hard evidence suggesting that people in power are being blackmailed? Because they've participated in, whether you know, through trickery or otherwise, in child sex related issues, games, right? Yeah, they were involved in it. Is that something that you're seeing evidence of?

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I'm seeing the evidence of it, but when you say, and you'll appreciate this. Being an attorney, hard evidence is something I feel like I can win cases with in the Court of law. What I do have. I'm blessed to have close personal friends who are legends in our national security space. Men that they write books about, and Tom Clancy wrote his books about, and these guys know how things work.

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And they were the ones briefing me on the Brownstoning operations, which is what the political blackmail is called, and when they target individuals....

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Now, let's define that very clearly. What is a Brownstoning operation?

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A brownstoning operation is when the targeted individual, he may be a political official or high ranking corporate executive. Some influencer that they want control of, they will target them and lure them into a situation that is highly controlled. I've got a friend that was in the C.I.A. he was lured to a. They sent him a private jet full of hookers and blow, and they flew him to Europe. And there was a castle where this party was there.

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There was every manner of luxury you could want.

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And they wanted, they invited him to kind of follow his nose and see what they could get him on video doing. And then eventually, there was a ceremony, it was a it was a. Ultimately, it was a satanic ritual ceremony that they invited him to participate in. That involved a homosexual act that he couldn't abide, and he backpedaled out of there.

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And he said, it was very difficult to get out of that ceremony and out of that party. But they instead of flying him back home, they basically ejected him and discarded them, and he was lucky to get out of their life.

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But let's stop right there. Yeah, and I want to focus on this because people don't understand, like, you understand that, I understand it. We hear these stories, but the public has no idea.

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This isn't conspiracy theory, this is legit. What occurs and what? What Craig is talking about is you will get someone who may not be a bad guy. Let's let's say a Congress person or a state elected official or whatever, and and this person is not necessarily a bad person.

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They'll get an invitation to something that looks innocuous and probably looks super fun and super prestigious, something that they really want to go to. They will get there. And the first thing that happens is. They're put into a position where there are a number of things that they didn't know were going to occur that were extremely uncomfortable and that they would not want made public. Okay, so he gets in the case. In the story that you just just shared, you got a guy who gets on a plane.

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And as soon as he gets on the private plane, there's a bunch of hookers and blow. Well. That, by itself, is something that no politician, state or local or federal, would ever want made public, especially if they were married or whatever. Hey, yeah, I was on a plane, there's all this hookers and blow that you were. What were you doing on that plane? Well, they, they didn't know, but so they've got them there right now before the target can recognize what's occurring.

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That target is then taken to the next place. The plane's taken you somewhere right? and you get to the next place and it's escalated. Well, hey, I got off this plane. Well, hey, listen, you're committed.

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We need you to show up at the party, so you show up at the party and at the party there's a whole bunch. That's way worse, and it escalates, and you either continue to go along with it or you don't. And if you do, there's more video, there's more film, there's more evidence, there's more showing that you've done these things.

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And make no mistake, this is always tracked, it's always recorded, because the people behind this are doing this for the purpose of blackmail. By the time this is done, whether you've agreed to participate in the ceremony or not, they already have video of you in places that they can take out of context or show. That really looks bad.

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And so at that point, you're controlled and that is a brownstoning operation. Am I missing something?

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No, it's to gain control over the targeted individual. So to lure them into an environment where they can be compromised and captured on still images or video for things that they don't want seen and thereby controlled. So forgive me for telling one of the grandest stories I'm aware of, but on the local level, on a much simpler level. It could be a congressman in a hotel in the United States. And the most beautiful woman he's ever seen. Sits down next to him and there's conversation, and next thing, you know, he's feeling really woozy and dreary.

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And he's like, I've only had one drink, but I'm bombed out of my mind. And she's like, Well, you know what? I got a room upstairs, we could just relax there if you don't want to be seen in public. And he goes and maybe just completely passes out.

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When he wakes up, he's naked. Yes, he may have a polaroid dropped on his chest, and when he wakes up, he's looking.

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It's naked in that bed, oh, but there's a child naked next to him, maybe the child's tied up. So there's bondage and abuse. And they're like, OK, you work for us.

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Now, that's a more simplified version of that operation, but you see where it's still all about the evidence and the control and the appearance. So I'm in Nevada, Craig, and I've worked some big political campaigns.

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But before that, I was also in the casino and hospitality world. You see this all the time, and I would actually play Devil's Advocate on Tom, explaining it to people. Honestly, if you've worked in the casinos, you've seen this a million times. In Nevada, we see it all the time.

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And when I do run political campaigns, one of the biggest ones I ran, I said, You're never in a room alone, you have to have. This is why we talk all the time about when we talk about Trump and politics and things we have to do to protect our country. You have to have people by your side that you trust with your life.

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And you're never alone. If you're running for office, you're never alone, and you're never going in a room with someone, period. And I have to tell my even the lowest-level political candidates, I have to tell them, you have to live your life like this now.

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You can never be alone and the people by your side flanking you at all times. You have to trust with your life because this happens at every level, every level it does.

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It does, it does, and it's a terrifying thing because you've got what people don't understand. And one of the most important, I think just as important as understanding what's happening and how it works, is understanding that this is happening to people that are not bad people.

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There are people going to Congress, getting elected at the state level, getting elected, getting into positions all over this country that aren't bad people. But once someone's got a picture of you with a naked kid next to you, well, it's surprising what people are willing to do. And remember, that picture could be used by other corrupt people as leverage to put you in jail, leverage for this, even if you didn't do anything.

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Even if you were drugged off your ass. And very few people wake up the next morning, look at that picture and say, I need to call the police immediately. The reaction is typically panic, rather than calling the police and saying, And even if you call the police, the question is, are they going to believe you?

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Because it's a remarkable thing, and it's a real thing, and it's not something that is unheard of. It's well known. This is Jeffrey Epstein.

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Now, some of these guys that are with Epstein were far worse. He was just providing services to people who'd already sold out. But I mean, this is the way it works. Am I wrong?

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Tom It's even worse. Doing those things on camera is often a requirement. To be in the power club, you want to be in our power club, you want us to install you as senator or congressman, or corporate executive, or DA or judge. You'll come to our party and you'll do this thing.

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Yeah, we're videoing you, but that's just our insurance that you want to bring us harm. Yep, you do the thing. They have the control.

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You get the job, you get the promotion, you get the power. And so we're looking at weak-charactered people who roll with this and now none of us get what we vote for.

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And it used to be generations and generations past. A man only had to be caught with a woman having an affair that was immoral and that was shameful. And the degradation of our moral and ethical standards in our culture has been ground down to the point where it had to become a homosexual affair. For anyone to care. Now we're down to children.

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Yeah.

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So that's the game.

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Well, and it's no wonder that we now have politicians openly talking about whether or not we should be less active against pedophiles. I mean, it's sick beyond words, but this is the game, this is what's happening. And because this is happening on such a widespread basis, and because it's so pervasive, it's the secret. No one's allowed to talk about no one.

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And because it's so pervasive, it's something that you just.

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And you don't know, you don't know who in your entity, who in your organization in your this, in your that may have fell victim to this. But it's surprising because one of the things that you see is the people behind this enterprise have enough money and enough power that they don't mind. Using these incredible offers for low-level people now, just to make sure they have the control. So where a low-level official may become a threat, well, they can find ways to infiltrate that low-level official's organization.

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And, you know, leverage the power and the sentinel to get things done, and it's something that we're seeing and it's the reason. And Craig, please, I'm going to ask you to tell me, give your thoughts on this. But it's the reason that guys like Craig and entities like Craig just take these guys out and shut these things down. Rather than trying to go through the proper channels, I say proper with air quotes, because at the end of the day those channels are compromised.

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You aren't getting anywhere, no one's going to do anything, but it's happening, it's happening. What do you think?

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Fill in any gaps.

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What we find is we run our operations typically in smaller counties, between major cities. Because it's been discussed in Congress that George Soros funds the campaigns of judges, DAS and attorneys general, who agree with him that they will not prosecute entire categories of harmful crimes, especially child trafficking and pedophilia and child rape. So we can't go to Houston, Texas, and run joint sting operations because the D.A. There is a Soros plant if you will, same thing with L..A. And you name any other of the big cities, it's already checkmated.

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So if you were evil, you could see where they would want to leapfrog past law enforcement and control the judicial system so that no matter how strong a case, a law enforcement agency or police department build, they can't get the predators prosecuted. Because the judge has already agreed not to. So that is a glaring conflict of interest that's in no American citizen's best interest. Our children are far less safe because of it, and that's something that should be highly illegal and needs to be taking corrective action against.

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So as long as that is the case, then, yeah. We work in the smaller towns. Where the D.A. Still may have his own integrity and the ability to act in good faith and prosecute those who are harming children. So we've seen that again and again.

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Even with that, there's a problem, though. Because the problem is that once you've got a good DA and a good law enforcement in a smaller community. And they're willing to start going once they start getting some steam on this.

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Someone's going to find an attack dog, someone's going to come after them, and that's kind of what's happening in Tennessee right now. They'll drum up some fake corruption charges, some fake whatever, and the real reason that they're doing it is because you investigated the child trafficking.

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You're a threat to the multibillion dollar industry that is sex and children, and you're a threat to the power structure. Am I missing something?

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Bullseye, Tom. We're seeing the same exact thing in Nashville specifically right now, and we can unpack that quite a bit.

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But yes, Sir, your observations are astute and, by my experience, spot on.

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Look at what he's doing. This guy's a hero. He was a hero for our country before now. He's still a hero for our country. He's just fighting in a new realm.

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So you want to, you want to end child trafficking, you got to support guys like Craig, all right, so Craig.

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All right, so you're doing your work and you're doing what you do, and you've got something funky going on in the Nashville area. What can get me started here? Get me, let's get, let's introduce, you know, let's keep names out of this. The only name I'm willing to talk about is. There's a wonderful, wonderful police department that is working very hard with an absolutely marvelous man. His name is Sean.

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And what police department is this?

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Millersville, P.D.

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Millersville Police Department So Millersville PD actually is looking at real sex trafficking and child sex issues. They're legitimately digging into this and investigating. And I'm going to tell you what I know. And and let me let me share a few things about this. And Craig, you don't need to respond on this.

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So my what I? What I found is these guys were actually they were making real progress and doing legitimate work and uncovering some of the sex trafficking. And one of the things that they've really become aware of is the way that fraudulent real estate loans are used to launder money for sex traffickers. They've seen their resources cut off, they've seen the state Bureau of Investigation cut access to resources that they need to investigate child sex trafficking. Why is the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation involved in this?

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Why are they cutting off access for resources for this police department? Now I've got this information. Separate from Craig and Sean, I've done my share of homework, so I'm speaking for myself here. It appears that instead of helping Millersville PD, the Texas or Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is interfering with their ability to find out what's going on with sex trafficking.

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It appears that instead of allowing people to start looking into the fraudulent real estate loans, which we've seen. Not only used with child sex trafficking. But it's been alleged, in very good faith to be occurring with the cartels in terms of manipulating votes and things like that in Arizona, why is this being blocked? why isn't the TBI absolutely backing this? Why is the state of Tennessee not doing everything possible? And I guarantee you, a lot of elected officials in Tennessee don't know.

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And part of what I want to do here is I want people to understand what's occurring. Because there is a PR war occurring against Millersville PD. And it's absolutely, in my mind, just reeks of corruption, I can't prove it's corruption, it looks like corruption, it smells like corruption.

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And again, I want to make sure that Millersville PD and Craig are able to tell their story. But I also want to fill in gaps in the knowledge that I have. Because we've done our investigation on this and we're focusing on this because you've got a police department and a group of people who are legitimately looking into the hard issues. And instead of being supported in a Republican state of Tennessee by groups like the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, what we have is obfuscation, roadblocks and nonsense. Meanwhile, these guys, and particularly the lead investigator, Sean, is being attacked in the press for all sorts of nonsense. That's absolutely irrelevant when we should be looking at this investigation into child sex trafficking.

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But as we see around the country, whenever you start making progress on child sex trafficking. Especially if you start looking at the way that they run the money through real estate fraud. And it's happening all over the country. As an attorney, I can tell you I've looked into this issue, I see what's happening. What they do is they launder money through fake real estate loans, and in laundering that money, they're able to buy protection, buy this, buy that.

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So this is something that should be investigated. But instead of assisting, these guys are being obfuscated. OK, so that's me speaking for myself, and that's me telling you guys some of the background that I've got on this. But Craig, give me a little more information because you know, Sean, you were involved in Tennessee.

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Share with me some of what you can share. I understand that this is a very delicate issue. Because the people in power want to preserve their ability to traffic children, they want to preserve their ability to maintain their power, which is predicated on child sex trafficking in some cases. And this is something that is naturally going to be a tough thing. But with that said, what can you tell me about this, Craig?

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I was introduced to Sean through a someone high in our national security realm. And he said, Craig, here's a here's a cop and a police department who are small. And they have selected good people who will act in good faith to serve and protect their community. And they're not burdened by the bureaucratic red tape that hamstrings and ties behind their back all of their tools that the bigger cities have. So in bigger cities you don't see a lot of child trafficking getting exposed or or prosecuted, but in the smaller towns it still can happen.

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And essentially, Sean was introduced to me as a man who has not only the will, but the ability to investigate and make the arrests and prosecute. And so with that, I met with him. I was given a pretty extensive intelligence briefing, shown a lot of factual evidence on the organized crime, money laundering through a multibillion dollar real estate loan, fraud and others. That was very revealing. And then we began to to plan an operation there, to run a joint sting operation to catch child predators, traffickers that are out hunting for children, or just predators who are out hunting and stalking children to abduct and or rape.

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And so we began coordinating the operation and then we started to run the operation. And when we made that first arrest and that operation, it was like we took a spear and jammed it right in the eyeball of a giant, rancid squid. Because the squealing and the hissing that came from a local reporter there, a news reporter, was a, in my opinion, a sub tabloid level antic. I wouldn't even call it journalism. I mean, this total hit piece calling Sean the conspiracy cop.

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And really pushing.

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That's how we discredited. Everybody is telling them it's a conspiracy theory.

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Yeah, like the U.

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S Marshal Service, the FBI and Homeland Security. Investigations that have made thousands of arrests and rescues over the past few years are somehow all conspiracy theorists. And child trafficking is not a serious big problem. So it begs a very hard question on motive, on who's pulling the strings of this reporter, and why? The frantic urgency by the reporter? Why so hyper energized?

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And the reporter's narrative was that Sean made political statements in a political podcast years ago that the reporter didn't like. Because the reporter's clearly coming from the far left. And Sean is a conservative patriot, and the reporter's narrative is anybody that's conservative like that is obviously so crazy. They shouldn't even have a badge and gun because that's dangerous. And I'm like, my gosh, is anybody buying this? I mean, if you go analyze anybody's politics, you're going to have a wide spectrum of what we all believe and see.

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But why is a reporter going after law enforcement, and why all of a sudden, right? If the reporter's narrative were honest, why didn't he go after him whenever he said the years ago?

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Why is it all of a sudden, years later?

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Yeah, so it exactly. This urgency in this frantic emergency antics by the reporter exactly coincides with this operation. Where we not only got one arrest, but we have warrants, the factual evidence, to prosecute in a court of law. Now, remember, we've got 27 child predator arrests with a 100 percent conviction rate, so we're careful with our evidence. We greatly exceed the requirement by the district attorney to demonstrate that crime.

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So we don't even bother with them unless we can do that. So we have that evidence on what appears to be 70 more predators that those arrests need to be made. So it appears that the in my opinion, it appears like the reporter is out to disrupt those arrests and to obstruct justice.

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And maybe they are.

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Yes, sir, go ahead.

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Well, let me interrupt you, because maybe they are, maybe they aren't. But the thing that we have to ask ourselves is why? Drum up a nonsense hit piece or series of hit pieces on someone over political statements years before? That are irrelevant to anything they're doing. And this only occurs after they start getting warrants and this, that, and other for child sex predators in the area. Why, all of a sudden, is it now someone that we need to investigate as a conspiracy theorist?

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I mean, you know, if I lived in Nashville and if I was interested in this, I would look at that. I would look at the reporters, I would look at the officials involved, anybody who's supporting that reporter. And ask, Well, do any of them have any connections to any of these people? And I'm sure that with the warrants, it's not public yet. But you know, this is so incestuous.

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And it's what we see everywhere in the country. It keeps happening, yeah.

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And it actually, there's some of this ambush style reporting, I think. That began even before we started running the operation. After we had briefed it, we believe that it may have been a political official that notified the reporter of the coming operation. But it was right in that timing where all hell broke loose with this reporter. So the energy and the overextension on the accusations and the inflammatory language do beg some hard questions as to motive.

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Yeah, well, and this is the thing is, yeah, we're always supposed to just pretend that you know that this is a coincidence or something. But again, we're talking about child sex predators, we're talking about hard evidence stuff that can go to court. And you've got a local reporter and a bunch of political officials and people who are standing in the way.

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But it wasn't just the reporter. I mean, from our reports, you know, Sean and the police department need access to certain.

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Resources for their investigation that would normally be given without any question to a police department or wherever, but the access to those tools are being cut off. And I think now we don't know and you don't have to confirm or deny this. But I was hurt, I have been told, and again, I can't confirm this, but I've been told that. The local police department has been unable to access certain FINCEN data, which is financial crimes, they're unable to access it.

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And this is stuff that's available that normally a group like the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation would readily make accessible for a police department. There's no reason that they would deny it, there's no good reason at all, but instead, they seem to be cutting it off. And the thing that I think that everybody in Tennessee should be doing right now is calling your state reps and state senators and asking them, Hey, do you support Sean's investigation in the Child Sex Predators?

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And if so, what are you doing to investigate why Tennessee Bureau of Investigations is not supporting them? What are you doing to investigate why local officials aren't supporting them? Because here's the thing I'm going to go, where no one wants to go on this. If a local official or a state rep, or a state senator is unwilling to support an investigation into child sex predators, I think you should ask yourself why.

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I think you should ask yourself, who would not support a legitimate investigation into child sex predators, and why would you oppose? It? Give us a very good reason. I think that's what we need to start asking. And the question is, when it comes to child sex trafficking, if you oppose it, why? why?

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And I'm not saying that means you're on the Epstein list, because most of these local guys are certainly not. But the question is, why would you oppose it? who's telling you to oppose it? What's the political benefit to opposing an investigation into child sex trafficking? What kind of a sick pervert does that?

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And why in the hell would you bring up a political nonsense story from years before? Unrelated to anything? Trying to discredit a guy as a conspiracy theorist because he's investigating child sex trafficking? I think those are tough questions that we need to be asking, What do you think, Craig?

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Well, one thing that law enforcement officers have confided in me, because early on I was saying, why don't more PDS? Why don't more law enforcement agencies want to run these operations and clean up their towns?

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And the response, as I get back, are Craig. They're terrified if they throw that net out in the blind, as would be the case in a sting operation like we run. They're afraid to throw that net out in the blind, because when they pull it out, pull that net out of the water. They're terrified of who may be in there, it may be the DA's brother, or the DA himself, or the governor's son, or whomever somebody. That's politically inconvenient. And so we have arrested a federal agent from the I.R.S Department of Treasury.

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He'd been FBI before that. We arrested him, we prosecute him, send him to prison, We've arrested an active duty army recruiter, illegal aliens. We don't care if you're coming to harm children, you need to be stopped.

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And that's my message really to so many people today, Tom, is that we have to get to where we care more about the safety and the welfare of innocent, defenseless children than we do. People's convenience who are predators and harming the children? We shouldn't be concerned on whether or not it's convenient for someone who's corrupt, who likes to rape children, as to whether or not they get exposed and stopped, no, we should be concerned about the trauma, the life changing and sometimes the life ending experience for the child. It's horrific what happens, it's not OK.

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Our culture is broken on that front, and that's why there's so much censorship on the topic and so much omission of it by platforms and officials. Who should be educating the American populace in good faith extensively on this industrial scale crime? But instead, it's brushed over and covered up and censored to allow the harm to continue. So we really need to use a biblical reference on this. We need to repent of what we've allowed as a nation here.

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This harm to God's precious, most pure hearted, loving individuals, the most innocent among us all. There's unspeakable harm being done to them for wealth and power, by the filthy, by the wicked. And that's what we have to expose, and that's why when we start to expose it. You get this hissing and screeching from this big, giant, nasty squid that's protesting that doesn't want it seen why?

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Because we're threatening a lot of dark side power.

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A lot of wicked men's power and it affects their money. Follow the money, and that's why the money laundering and the real estate loan fraud and all of that. It's so sensitive. That's why Sean is being attacked right now, be it through a reporter or a state police agency, or whomever.

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They're going to try to stop him, because who knows who all is in that net? And that's 70 more warrants that they should be serving right now, but they're prevented from by the state now, and by this local reporter. How many children have been raped since our operation, by the 70 predators that haven't been gotten yet because of this obstruction of justice? So we have to start caring about the little ones we have to.

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Well, you just said, it's everything. How many children have been raped because of the corruption of the state and local officials? That are preventing this? Police Department, Millersville P.D. in Tennessee from actually going after real child predators and getting them off the streets. How many and why are we tolerating this? People of Nashville, people of Tennessee, ask your state and local officials, ask them, Why are they?

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Why are they obfuscating, why are they not going, why are they letting crooked people play this as something that it's not? This is about protecting children, by the way. Www..tomrens..com, www..tomrens..com.

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Yeah, it's V4CR.

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Please support Craig and his work. They need support, they need support. And right now, the number one thing that we need is we need the people of Tennessee. We need this shared in Tennessee.

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If you're in the Nashville area, if you're in Tennessee, you need to share this. You need to ask people, your state and local officials. Do you support the investigation into child sex predators? Do you support investigating the money laundering that's being done through real estate loans on a national level? This, by the way, is a crisis. Federal and state officials all over this country are being bought off, and they're being paid off through money laundering schemes through real estate loans.

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Joe Biden himself is said to have been part of this.

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They refinance their homes for obscene amounts of money, and they do it over and over and over again. And then someone else, somehow, they're able to repay that loan, right? But you never know how they're able to repay that loan. There's never a clear explanation, but the money is laundered at that point, right?

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And so they're using real estate loans to launder money. This is a crisis across our country because it's driving sex trafficking, it's driving child trafficking, it's driving drugs. That's how politicians—it's probably the number one way that politicians are being bought off right now.

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And you have a combination of politicians being bought off through money laundering schemes, through real estate loans, and also being blackmailed through Brownstone events. Things like that, as we talked about earlier in the show, and if you didn't see it, you should watch the whole show. This is critical. But those two tactics are probably the primary mechanisms of control, or the most pervasive mechanisms of control. That I'm seeing in the anti-corruption work I do all over the country. They use the money laundering scheme through real estate and then blackmail through child sex trafficking or other sex-type pictures, things like that.

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And again, a lot of the politicians that are being blackmailed, they'll get drugged, they'll get invited to some—they don't even know what's happening, and they wake up after being drugged. With pictures of things that they didn't know they did, or maybe they didn't even do, but it looks like they did, and that's it, that's it. So this is a real crisis.

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It's something that we've got to do. And we have an opportunity in Nashville to back a police department that's willing to stand up and try and stop sex trafficking. But it appears that the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is not real excited about what's happening. We're not sure who or why they wouldn't be giving full access and full support for a local police department to be investigating this. But I think we should probably ask ourselves why, and we should get our local—the Tennessee state reps and state senators.

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There's a lot of good ones, I know some great people in Tennessee, there's some good people there. We need to ask them, Why aren't you supporting Sean and the Millersville Police Department and putting an end to this corruption? Why would you not?

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If you have nothing to hide, you should absolutely support this, unless you have something to hide. And therein lies the problem. Everybody's got something to hide, everybody knows somebody because this problem is so pervasive across the country. It's so common that, I mean, honestly, people like to just keep their head down and pretend it's not happening.

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But it is, and it's easier to look the other way than to look this devil in the face. Craig, We got a couple more minutes. What do you need to get out there? What do you need to share about this or about your work in general?

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How can people help you? What do we need to know, what's next?

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Man, what's next is continuing to expose, I think exposing the schemes of the enemy, if you will, exposing the wicked, is job. One. Because the American people cannot fight an attack that they don't perceive. So we need to educate people and demonstrate to them what's going on. Factually, our movie, Contra Land, our documentary film, is very powerful in unpacking how this came about and why the idea of raping children has been systematically normalized.

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There's an attempt to normalize it, make it seem OK, it can never be OK, because a child cannot advocate for themselves. Their brains aren't fully developed and it's deeply traumatizing to them. So everybody needs to know that that any sexual contact with a child is deeply traumatizing to them. Because we interview so many of the surviving adults that are only 20, 30, 40 years later even able to articulate how they really felt about it.

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And it destroys their lives, and so this is a very ugly and vile predation that should not be in our culture. We need to drive this from our nation. It can never be normalized. Because again, you don't have a consenting partner when you're dealing with a child, and it gets worse than that.

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I'm not going to drag you folks into the religious rituals that are happening and how dark and vile and demonic that is. But that's part of it. So it's all about wealth and power. Weak men will do anything to be in a cool club or to get the position or the money. And that's what we have to expose and break that dynamic. So, you know, we could.

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We don't have the time for it. But we could really discredit highly the the the source that this reporter is using for his dirt. He's being misled by this source who's a fraud. And that source is currently under investigation for felony theft by five agencies. As we speak right now, so that'll all come out factually, in court of law soon enough.

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Support Craig back him. this is a good man doing God's work. please anything we can do to get this guy the support that he needs. And if you're in Tennessee, you need to get on the phone right now.

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You need to ask your state and local officials, why is Millersville PD not being supported properly in investigating child sex theft?

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