Beastie Boys

What's up, this is Mike Diamond, Mike D.

I'm Adam Horowitz, aka Ad-Rock of the Beastie Boys, and I feel, I don't know, I feel like I would be, I'd be kind of bullshitting if I said, I mean, we've met before, but I certainly would like to be, but I am not yet, friends with Conan O'Brien.

You're saying you're okay with the idea of us being friends?

I mean, yeah, I have enough friends.

Hey there. Welcome to. Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, joined by my fellow attorney, Son of Obsession. Hello. And that's how an attorney sounds?

That's a judge.

Sustained. Okay, no.

Overruled, sir.

All right. You got it. No one knows the law, like you, Sona. Of course, Matt Gourley. Hello, ladies and gentlemen of the jury.

Object.

I'm a caricature. Now, I don't know much about such city things, but I know an honest man when I see one. Well, it's clear, Sona, you don't know what a lawyer is. I don't. Yeah.

No, he didn't.

And so I get a call from Bob Wright, who runs NBC for General Electric. Oh, my God. And he was laughing. He was like, this guy just got on the phone and yelled at me and said, Conan should be a lawyer. And I'm like, yeah, I know.

Did you ever want to be a lawyer?

No. No. I always thought I. I just. I'm sorry.

You wouldn't show up.

Your client would be sitting there. How, how fiercely have I fought a traffic ticket? Oh, sure. It's just a small, small glimpse. I'll give her that.

Yeah.

And you're supposed to be there at eight o'clock in the morning and have done all the preparation. But somebody took some gummies and somebody kept the judge waiting. I had someone. when the judge said, Ms. Movsesian, you're like, get off my ass, judge, and shove that gavel where the sun don't shine.

You haven't seen me on jury duty.

Do you know how good I am at jury duty?

That's totally different.

Shut up, Zach.

I object. You're out of order. I object. You're out of order. I'm crushing it.

You should be a lawyer.

I thought you said you're not famous in this scenario. No, I said I insist on being famous. Oh, no, no, no.

You've got to do it, not famous.

Before we examine the evidence, let's look at my 10th anniversary special.

Thank you.

Thank you. All right. I will fight for you. Yes. Let's move it on.

Is that bad?

It's kind of like I'm trying to sell you a Kia.

I have a Kia.

A used Kia that's not in great shape. I have a used Kia that's not in great shape. Okay, so that would mean you wouldn't want another one. No. See, that's the problem.

I'm trying to go a little higher.

How did I know you had a Kia? I just knew it.

I just like dirty Kia. What do you mean?

When you say dirty, is there just a lot of crud inside the car? It's so gross.

Can I interject here?

Sure, Mike. Please.

You don't even have to ask. It's disgusting.

It's like literally disgusting. Like old, you know, caked up like old cereal and stuff inside.

It's gross. I don't eat cereal in my car. I'm not a cannibal.

What is all that food? crap? There's other food, but I don't like.

I don't let go to my car with a bowl of cereal.

Guys, I was just back in Boston, and my older brother, Neil, I went for a ride in his car. It's the dirtiest car I've seen. It had just crud caked on the inside. And at one point, there's a little panel that, if you push, it, opens up. It's not the glove compartment, but it's just for, I don't know, just some tic-tacs, whatever you might want.

Can we like, move on from this? From me? I'm like, jeez, you guys.

Can't complain.

Yeah, got some ketchup packets. We have more important things. We have more important things to talk about. We have met. You guys performed on my show in the past.

We talk about it. And I feel like actually it's a thing that I'll, I don't know. This is maybe dangerous territory here. But I think a lot, like there's a lot of our audience that doesn't get that. Or hasn't at different points, different junctures over time.

I don't see how that's possible. Because from the very beginning, when you guys first hit the scene, I remember thinking, they're funny. Like your early videos. And this is years before I got on my, got a late night show. I remember thinking, these are funny guys.

Well, yeah. We're from New York. We're from New York.

Well, that's all the time we have. This is called where people are from. We've established that. All I do is geolocate people. And then we kind of wrap that up.

You know, we met in high school. We were friends. We've just been friends this whole time. And what do you do with your friends? You just have, you know, you're supposed to just have fun.

Yeah. But can I add on?

You don't need to ask permission. You can just go. No, I do.

May I interject?

You don't understand. Like, otherwise he's going to be like, Mike, I was speaking here. So, by me asking permission, it's, I'm like, you know, I'm taking that away from happening.

Maybe I do need new friends.

That's why I'm here. Because Mike is a pain in the ass.

Oh, my God. Jesus. I asked to do this by myself. Yeah.

No, but I think, like we grew up at a certain time, also in New York, where it was like, A, we come, you know, Adam and I, anyway, Jaak was an only child, but we come from family. So I think like there's this necessity when you're like at this, at a New York city table, read culturally Jewish table, where everybody is speaking on top of each other. Like you, you kind of have to figure out how to be funny to survive. Otherwise. Yeah.

I always started out getting into music, you know, through the Beatles as a kid, but I always remembered and then became crazily into their allure and learning everything about them. The thing I always remember is whenever you ask, like George Martin or something, when he first met the Beatles, what grabbed you about them? He never said it was the music. He said it was their sense of humor. And I always thought that's not possible.

No, I agree. And the Beatles were huge Peter Sellers. They were like huge fans of the Goon Show, you know, and that you could see once you kind of like you, geek out enough and you do the nerd searches of the Goon Show and on YouTube and stuff. And you, you realize, like a lot of their humor, you know, they were students of that, for sure. Or contemporaries.

You guys have always said Adam, you know, started the band. He was the initiated. How did he initiated it? Was he the one that said we could do this?

I wasn't there. I don't know.

I was.

Were you ever in the Beastie Boys? Yep. Briefly.

Yeah. You could do videos. I'll vouch.

I'll vouch.

I'll vouch for you. You were there 88 to 89.. I remember. Yeah. And you were replaced by a lookalike.

Yeah. It was like Fast and Furious 7..

No. Well, Adam, before he was in Beastie Boys, he was in a band called the Young and the Useless. But before there was Beastie Boys, I was in this band called the Young Aborigines, which I guess is probably a name that would get us canceled. Is that an appropriationist name?

Just keep going.

I'm just saying.

You need to be honest about these things. Like full disclosure, right?

Again, I wasn't there.

I was in a band called Cultural Appropriation. Yeah.

That would be good.

Yeah, we killed it.

Anyway. So Young Aborigines. Yauch, was our, like everything. He was our road crew tour manager. He was the only one who knew actually how to make things work, honestly.

Wait, the short straw is the singer?

In my case, I didn't want, I definitely would have way, rather, at that time, would have rather played drums. That would have been my ideal. But it didn't work out that way. It wasn't to be. No.

Or, just like, you know, you're with your friends. You're like, oh, we should do this thing. And like, nobody does anything after just, we should do this thing. But then he'd show up with like a camera and film. Like, oh, we're actually, I guess we're actually going to do the thing that we're talking about.

Thank you. Yeah. It's like, you know, that thing where you're with your friends and they're like, how many times you're with your friends and somebody says the crazy idea and you're like, yeah, okay. That just becomes one of the thousand crazy ideas that never, ever happens.

99.

And then it's. I think that you're, that's, that's, I don't know. I was going to go somewhere with that. Go ahead. You have to single out the potheads.

Why are you attacking the pothead? I don't know.

I just feel like math kids, you know, like. You're right. They're not always doing the stuff.

You're right.

It was like doing the crazy ideas.

You know what? You're right.

You know, I apologize. The potheads are smoking the pot. The math. kids are doing the math.

I think you're right. And I'm, I'd like to apologize. Okay. And I'm also apologizing. Yeah.

I'm sorry.

I'm just your eyesight. I'm apologizing. I apologize to Sona cause she's. I partake. You don't just partake.

I do.

They're so young. But they're also why I do it. So it's okay.

It's fine. It's fine.

Yeah. I had the chance to have a really nice, lovely conversation with Adam on the Warner brothers lot. I want to say it was about a year before he passed away. He was there directing, I believe, a video, some project, and I could tell he wasn't well, but I was coming out of the commissary. He was going into the commissary and we just had like this nice bonding conversation.

Yeah, but it's, it's, it's honestly beyond that, because it really was like, he was the guy who would have the craziest fucking idea that anybody would possibly have in the room. And then, like exactly what Adam said, then show up the next day with the equipment that would make it all possible. And then you're doing it.

So we didn't do all of the stuff that he was saying, though.

Thankfully. Yeah.

You want to do a tour underwater?

Yeah.

How was that going to work?

Really, really.

Yeah.

There was like drawings and everything.

There was a lost city of Atlantis. fascination went on for a while.

Actually, actually.

Yeah.

Did he believe the lost city of Atlantis existed? No,

it wasn't about Atlantis. Oh, I see.

Okay. It's just this idea of like having this underwater, you know, presenting. we are doing on tour in an underwater. Environment. And, and I granted, I would give it to him.

Logistically.

There's no, there's no oxygen down there.

Yeah. No.

And with the tank, and then you have to wrap at the same time. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, and call me,

call me old fashioned, call me old fashioned. But I think when I was a kid, I was, I was told, like, you know, water, electricity.

Yeah.

That's never been proven.

Yeah.

Never been proven. It's just more bullshit. Yeah.

Yeah.

I always appreciated that the music is clearly, was, so solid and so fantastic. And I want to talk about ill communication, because when that came out, it was such a soundtrack. I'm just listening to it a lot at the time. And it's one of those records, albums that becomes the soundtrack for that time in your life, which is, I think, a hard thing to achieve. But I think everyone who was my age or obviously younger, who heard that at the time was like, okay, these are the songs that sort of imprint on us at that time.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think our story is unique, you know, that unique. I feel like that's sort of how things, especially bands, start, you know, you're into this thing and it's, you're hearing things and you find friends that are into the same sort of thing and you move along that way. But something special about being in New York is that you do hear it. You're, we talked about a lot, like you walk down the street, just getting from a, you know, from here to there, you're hearing, you know, music from the pizza place.

Genius. When you look back at it now,

like we all,

it was one of the best shows ever created, but I,

I appreciate it too, because there were so many, you drop in so many things like. you've had a Ron, you know, that because I think we're a similar vintage, I remembered when you guys rhymed Rod Carew, and I'm like, who's talking about Rod Carew anymore? at, you know, pinch on the neck of Mr. Spock. I just, there's all this stuff that was evocative of my growing up in the seventies and your kind of respect for it.

I think New York was unique. I have to, I didn't, I only know New York, but I do think New York, because you had music blasting at you from all sides and all different kinds of music. So I have to think that at that time that was different than Boston or Rhode Island or anywhere else on the East coast and beyond, you know, New York really was the, the place that exists probably in, in the whole globe at that time, where you had all this different music happening at the same time, all being blasted at you, you know? And then I think also, then it's an interesting thing, like what you brought up. of that.

that was like going into hyper warp.

Yeah. I get being able to turn, you have the box where I could turn beyond the three channels or four channels or whatever was, that was huge. And being able to watch like the Knicks and Rangers games.

Back when there were three channels, there's ABC, CBS, NBC, there's like two UHF stations. And I've mentioned this before, but there would, we would watch what came in, meaning what did we have good reception on? And once it was a Catholic mass, but the picture was really good. So, my brothers and I, it's just like, because we don't have the palette that people have today. And we're just thinking like, well, this is not what we want to watch,

but God, is it better or worse than F troop? Do you know what I mean? Like, we're just watching. It's just the electricity. It's like, it's just.

Don't diss F troop.

That's rat patrol. I don't know any rant, Mr. Ed, I don't know any random show, you know what I mean? No offense.

I didn't know. I'm so happy. You mentioned rat patrol.

What was the Colonel Klink show?

That's Hogan's Heroes.

Hogan's Heroes. I think that that's pretty insane. That, like every day after school, we'd watch Hogan's Heroes, which is like this, you know, sort of like, it's a comedy.

A comedy about, and they said it was a POW.

Concentration camps.

A POW camp. Not a concentration camp. A POW camp. You're right. So that's why it was funny.

It was, it was pretty crazy for her.

Think about it.

She talks about it. She never got over it.

Think about it.

Yeah. Yeah. No,

but it was, though, I think, where we were on that tour, and it was like, it was a huge deal that we, and totally absurd that we got asked to do that tour. Right. That's a bit of a story unto itself, which Adam could tell, or I could tell, either of us could tell it, but, or you just read the book and it's in there.

Yeah.

Which would make what we're doing now completely irrelevant. What if this whole thing was just read the book and then we just end it. No, you don't have to go into it.

I'm just saying. Madonna, but my point is actually that she booked a tour and she was playing like theaters. And by the time the tour was actually happening, she was so beyond selling out a theater in terms of stature. Like she literally went, I think, by the tour, before the tour is finished, I think she was like on the cover of time magazine or something. So it was like, she was this, she was on her way to being a cultural phenomenon.

So is it a coincidence that we were on, on that tour?

I mean, I don't know.

I don't know.

All I'm saying is before you guys signed up, she's in theaters.

I mean, she used to be at the same, we used to play the same clubs in New York. Yeah. I'm just saying. No one ever talks about that part of the story.

You're right. In the podcast era, this is compelling information.

Well, actually it is. Cause she's floundering around. She's in theaters. It's going nowhere. You add the mixture, the key element of the beastie boys.

You don't know who Joe Franklin is, do you?

Yes, I do.

We were on the Joe Franklin show. No. In 83..

Joe Franklin, just for our listeners.

How do you explain, Joe Franklin?

Joe Franklin, a guy who never should have had a show, but magically did. He named dropped everybody in show business. He had a small, it almost would today look like a cable access show. Yeah. And he sat there and his show was on for 40 years.

Forever. Yeah. And he had like a real studio in New York. Like you'd go, and it was like very, but I guess, but you're more of a student than I am of this stuff, but he's like, it's vaudevillian.

And a lot of his references would go over the head of anybody here. But Joe Franklin is an iconic New York institution. I can't imagine the beastie boys on the Joe Franklin show.

And then, at the end, he was like, well, you know, fellas, whatever you call this. I don't know. He's like, I see big things happening to you, since you are going to be on our, on this show. And he was basically like, you know, you're giving the, the Joe Franklin bump. It was pretty great.

You're like, I don't know.

Next thing you know.

Yeah. Let me go.

So what you're saying, Joe Franklin, blesses you. Then you guys.

Rock and roll. Madonna.

And then rock and roll hall of fame. Yeah.

That's all true. You're right. It all goes back to Joe Franklin.

Seven. You guys have seven platinum selling albums. And that's thanks to a man named Joe Franklin.

What's with the other ones that aren't platinum? Cause? we made more than seven records.

I have bad news for you. I don't.

I mean, everyone's got a couple of duds. Everyone. I like, I mean, you know, I love that.

Your mind works that way. Cause, there's exactly. It didn't work. It's, there's seven that did, but what didn't work? Yeah.

I didn't know. I'm a music insider. Would you like some musical insider information? Yes, I would. So we were at our studio here in, in California and, uh, I was smoking the pot.

discouraged kids from doing this.

We had our gold record on the wall. It was our record, uh, Paul's boutique. And I was looking at it and I could see it has our label. And I could see that it has whatever, like nine songs on the one side. And I was looking at the actual gold record.

And it was like, I mean, broke the glass and took the record out of the thing.

And it was somebody doing like piano versions of, like Barry Manilow, like feelings and yeah. Yeah. Just some other shit.

When someone has a gold record, they just take any record.

Apparently.

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm telling you. I like to think that for, you know,

Barbara Streisand, Donna Summer, like a star that it was actually their record. In our case, it was some, like somebody that was like.

whoever's record that was. I'm just talking. Yeah.

This should lead to, like a quiz show, kind of investigation. Cause I think all gold records need to be examined. They all need to be recalled and you need to go to every, you know, and you should check them out, because it's probably not their record. And it's not on a massive scale. Recount.

Yeah. We need to recall all this gold and platinum plaques.

Maybe the most important thing facing America right now. Oh yeah. At least for the next couple of months. Okay. All that energy should go.

I think you can be a big part of that next time. You know, say lady Gaga is here. You could, you could, you know, really urge her to play her.

You guys have come to the right place. I have incredible power in the music industry. I didn't know you could play those. I just thought they were decorative. I didn't know either.

I didn't know. I hadn't thought about it.

It turned out. it basically seemed like, I guess it was somebody's record. There was a spray painted gold or something. I don't know.

Cause who would, who would break the glass and put it on a turntable? They weren't counting on you guys. No, you were the X factor.

We were the sleuths that covered this incredible crime.

This could be an action movie with John Cena. Oh, I'm just saying. Yeah.

John Cena and The Rock.

The Rock breaks the glass. We can't afford The Rock.

No, one or the other.

We can't do both. Just stick to John Cena. We can get John Cena.

Jason, Jason Momoa.

Too much. Oh,

all right. But how about this? Jason Statham is the bad guy who makes the plaques.

It's way too hot for me right now.

I love it.

I want in on this and I'd like to be a producer, but also I'd like to be in the film.

I, can I just say this now that we're in Hollywood, California, anybody that like makes action movies, I just want to be in the background during an action scene. I want to get pushed into like a thing of fruit. That's what I just want to be in a movie. We're like.

Why a thing of fruit?

Pushes me into like a fruit cart.

Yeah, I think, I think Adam and Rock would like to be pushed into fruit in the background of a. Oh,

wait a minute. Fruit. Is that like a safe landing? Like what is.

It's just always the thing where, like people are walking. They're like, whoa, in the car. They get pushed into a thing of fruit.

There's always a chase scene that right. Like goes through, like, like hotel. And the cafe or something. Secret back entrance.

This was my coffee reference. The cafe.

So I'll see what that is done. I'll see what that happens.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And please. Yeah. And help us uncover this platinum plaque. Yeah. Gold.

It wasn't platinum in the story.

It wasn't. It was. You're right.

It was gold. Sorry. Stickler for the details.

I'm going to say probably the same for the platinum.

Yeah. Who knows? Maybe it's a status thing like gold. You're like, eh,

just spray paint that. Yeah. I don't know. That album by the.

Platinum. Maybe they had a. Yeah. A better eye for detail. And they.

Guys, you moved to L.

We came out here to record Paul's boutique because we were working with these producers called the Dust Brothers, who are from out here. And then we'd had this whole falling out with Russell Simmons and Def Jam. And we just wanted to get away from, like the New York scene that we were in. And so we were coming out here to record that album.

Now, did you have. Because I'll admit to having an attitude a bit about coming to L.A. You have an attitude about.

Definitely attitude. But then. Then we'll do. We got it.

Because I'm not good about driving. Are you good about actually driving?

I'm one of the best drivers in the world.

But do you actually make the effort? Like, do you go downtown to the arts district?

Oh, downtown. Oh, God, no. No, I live in a bubble.

That's my point. It's like my house.

And then there's like a frozen yogurt place six minutes away. And I have my playlist, and that's it. Right, Sona? Yeah. You don't like to.

So that's it.

No, I do try. And one of the things that was good for me is a bunch of years ago when I started doing live sets in preparation for something. Just going to these weird theaters that I didn't know about. Dynasty typewriter hotel places downtown. And then I got into a thing where a couple of friends of mine and I decided, let's just eat at diners and restaurants that were established before we were born, which was 1963..

I have a lot of things that I need. I wish I should have written them down. First of all, I'm wondering, was your diner thing a specific dish or was it? No, not a specific dish.

Find a place that was in. My friends, Rodman and Greg, and I would say it has got to be in. Big Rod? Not Big Rod. I've seen his ride.

Oh, why?

Why did I go to a dick joke? Yes. I'll tell you why.

I have two moobs.

Dick joke and they're sitting on marijuana. I'm not the professional.

That's it.

That's it. That's all I've got.

If you look at my milieu, my oeuvre, that's all there is.

All right. So it's just about the diner and the thing. Okay. Do you know what the Mille Miche is? Is that what it's called?

No, Mille, Mille. Mille, Mille, is what you're trying to say.

So you're the best driver in the world. I went to Italy this summer, a little vacation. I asked Mike Diamond, I said, what do you think of Bologna? He's like, I went through there on the Mille, Miche or whatever. And I had to Google it because I didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

I sort of luck into things in my life. And one of the things I have lucked into.

You're here, aren't you?

Yeah, I am here. See? See, huh? High five.

Yeah. One of the things I got asked to do was this classic rally race that runs every year in Italy and has since basically the birth of the automobile.

So you did that?

So I did that. And I had an incredible dinner in Bologna. How good was the food in Bologna? Ten out of ten.

Ten out of ten.

Yeah. Was it Italian food?

So much Italian food. Oh, my God. There's like Italian food everywhere.

I just would be funny.

I did get Chinese one night. We did have Chinese one night.

And?

And, you know, not so much.

Were you in Chinese one night in Bologna?

We were just rolling the dice. I don't know. Switch it up. We'd been there for like three weeks.

Yeah, I didn't see that. Wow.

So, Adam, you've been interested in acting. I would say, when I first would watch the videos, I thought it's like there was almost like a cross in the road where you could have, it could be music, but you very much seem like a comedic actor, performer that felt like that was in your bones. Almost like a dead-end kid kind of thing. I don't know if you know that.

Well, a lot of, yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of people, like a lot of people, want me to go solo, for one. Just a side note. Right. I can't, I couldn't do that to them.

Do you still have the letters?

Yeah.

Wallpaper.

You know, yeah, that's what I thought I would do when I was a kid. I wanted to be an actor. And then I did a couple things. I hate the hours. Yeah.

You're not going to talk about Ronald?

Well, we can. I feel like that's your opportunity to jump in if you want.

All right. Well, Adam had a very, a great role in a great TV show with an esteemed actor, Edward Woodward. The show was called The Equalizer, long before Denzel Washington discovered said property. Right.

I remember this TV show.

Yeah. And then Adam played a rich kid gone bad.

Yeah.

In the, we were all, what, how old were we? Like 17 or something? Yeah. 16, 17.. And the highlight of the whole show was in busting the drug crime ring, Edward Woodward takes this like silver chain, I think it was silver, from around his neck.

Like Wonder Woman.

Yeah. It was a very Wonder Woman like, yeah. Act.

Yeah. The episode is called Mama's Boy. And I was Mama's Boy. You were Ronald. And my first line, professional acting line, there's kids that want to get into the back room and I go, yo, chill.

And yeah, anyways, that's, that's where the necklace goes.

I don't, you know.

But you had kind of like a rubber faced, comedian.

Like I could have been, I could, there's so many things I could have done. I mean, I still could. Are you offering me a job?

Yes. Yes. I am.

I'm over in Hollywood. Should I have a show? Like, like, what? Like, I want to know, like, like stand up or.

No, I don't think it's stand up. I think it's. Yeah. But it's an acting show. It's an acting.

No. I get tired. You know?

Well, there's a bed in the trailer.

I know. But then you got to wake up. It's just a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot of hard work.

No. I agree. A lot of work. And I. But I'm going to also say stand up.

You have to leave your house. That part sucks.

Yeah.

So you wanted something where you stay in your house and you sleep most of the time.

I'd. I'd like it.

OK. I can help you. I can figure this out. Does it feel to you guys now that you're looking back.

Rubber face.

Yeah. You come around.

Yeah.

What is the way you can kind of bend your face in this great way? It reminded me of why am I blanking on his name? That fantastic actor from the Dead End Kids.

Satch.

Yes. That's. But who.

Yeah. OK.

Gorsy. No.

Leo Gorsy. No. No. Leo Gorsy. The guy who's not Leo Gorsy.

We actually. My. Am I right? An old friend of mine, Max Perlich, was obsessed with the Dead End Kids. We used to talk about it.

Leo Gorsy.

He was the main guy.

He was like the leader. Leo Gorsy was like the ringleader. And then there was. Help me. Help me.

They're on it.

Three of us are Googling. Frantically Googling. OK. Well.

I'm not the lead guy. I'm like the goofy sidekick.

I don't know. I swear to God. I got a Dead End Kids vibe the first time I saw you and in the different videos. And, you know, I just thought like, OK, that's a possible avenue for this gentleman. Clearly, what you chose was spectacular.

We are lucky. it worked out. Yeah.

Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall.

Yes. That's it.

Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall vibe. And I mean that as a great compliment, because I think he's one of the all time comedy greats. So there you go.

Thank you.

Yeah. That was our writing room. Right. Like we was. just we'd just sit around with these, you know, our spiral notebooks, sometimes the composition books, the bound ones, just loose paper.

It didn't really. It's so funny because I think about you guys, the three of you sitting there with composition books, loosely. whatever, working it out is makes perfect sense to me as someone who's been in. Not that it's a similar process, but in a different world, different mind shaft. But it makes perfect sense to me.

It didn't have to have a job. It's fucking awesome.

Yeah, but, you know, there are so many groups where they managed to lose that. There are so many groups that managed to. after the initial success, they lose sight of it and it becomes a job. And I feel like Beastie Boys, that never happened.

No, I agree. I mean, there's. there are compromises we'd have to make. Everybody has to make them. Oh, really?

Do you want to?

I think you said it, though, very well. of just that. I do feel. I think we're both super grateful of the fact that we got to basically, just like, do what we always did. We would just get together in a room with each other and try to make each other laugh.

It's funny because I just find, just looking at the video for intergalactic, you know, planetary or or sabotage, or I just see. And it actually almost every video I can think of you guys made. I kind of wish I was there because it looks like you're having a really good time screwing around.

Really, really fun.

And and that comes through to me. That's the secret sauce. And it is hard to sustain. I mean, I, as you say, I'm sure there are bumps in the road or compromises here and there, but it never looked that way from my vantage point.

Well, apparently those records are platinum that we found out about today.

Those two. Yeah.

So we're going to have to. Because they're not really your records anyway.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't know. We can word records. Yeah, I don't know what happens. We, we got very lucky.

But I think it is unusual. We prioritized being friends. I mean, I guess it is. I'm friends, or I know, of other bands that are of our similar age that are still going, whatever. But, you know, everybody's on their own tour bus and.

Yes, they're not talking.

Whatever. How is it not talking? That's strong.

Do you want to say names or? No.

They speak through lawyers.

Like they hate each other.

No, no, I'm not.

I'm not even saying hate each other. They're just, you know, they don't, they're not. they're not doing the tour to hang out. The soda's gone. They're not doing the tour to hang out with each other.

That's what I was going to say. Soda's gone flat.

Yeah.

Some people like that. Like a flat soda. It's good if your stomach's upset. Ginger ale, it's flat. Really?

I didn't know that.

Hold on, wait.

I thought the effervescence is what is good for your tummy.

I don't want to talk about this anymore. You said something controversial and you just want to glaze over it. I want to shut this down. Because I realized I think I made a mistake and I just want to shut it down.

No, the ginger ale is real, though. Like, I only know that because my mom told me.

That's what my mom told me.

Yeah, my mom wasn't a doctor, though.

My mother was not a doctor, either. Yet she operated on many a brain.

My mother was Irish, though.

Mine, too.

So, maybe that's what it is.

So, you're saying I'm an ancient?

I think, safely, everybody in this room can say we are.

Yeah, we're mixed up.

I am 100%, 100.

Really? No Portuguese? No!

No Portuguese. Nope. Why? I put one ingredient missing.

Boston, New England, a lot of Portuguese.

Yeah.

No, but we were in Ireland, bouncing around. It started with flat soda. Guys, I blame you. It's your dynamic that has ruined what could have been, I think, one of the greatest podcasts ever recorded. But, no.

I feel like that's what you're going to say on my tombstone. now. My D.

Mille Miche. Does Mille Miche actually mean anything?

No, I don't think so.

Why did they get us back here?

I don't think so.

I brought us back here. It's Mille and then M-I-G-L-L-E-A. It means thousand miles. Mille, Miche. You don't have to lean that far into the mic.