They Made Me in a Factory | Episode 29

Hi. Hi. Are you fighting? I just, I don't dig. Okay, are we gonna do the ASMR with the nails?

No, we're not gonna do it. I'm gonna get it out of the way right now. Okay. No.

They look amazing. No, I love the nails, but the tippy-tappies. Yeah, okay. No, we'll not do that.

For anyone that doesn't know, I got my nails done and I got them very long and like something.

I can't do anything. I mean, I was like, I was like very shocked, because they're like very cool, but they're like, I can never picture you doing these kind of.

nails, which is so wild. Well, now I know why. I'm never doing it again. Do you want to see my tool? that's now in my purse?

stylus pen to tape with?

this because, like you, can't get it out with your nails, so you stick your card on that. I've used it a ton. I mean, I don't even have very long nails, and.

sometimes the meters. Tricky. I can't even imagine. with those tricky talons. I'm.

walking around like T-Rex, because it's like I can't do anything and I'm scared, but it's only a few weeks. They have, they're like 3D. Yeah, what is this? Also, you know what's funny? Sometimes I make decisions and it's like no one told you to do that.

you're always just like, you get like very simple designs, like same way like I would do. So that's what I mean. like I to go. this extreme is like it's kind of.

making my head spin. No, it's like. my nails are black 90% of the time and they're as all Millennials, they're almond shape always and they're my real nails and like medium length. This is nuts. So anyway, I need to log off TikTok, because that's obviously where I saw this inspo.

birthday. Literally.

Welcome to, Disrespectfully with Katie Maloney and Dana Kathan.

Unapologetically, we're here to do what we want to do. Spilling the tea. Babe, you're gonna see the power of women like Disrespectfully. How long do you think?

you'll have this on? Well, my next appointment's in three weeks. So they'll last for three weeks. and again, I'm claustrophobic by nature and it's just.

Thank God you don't have contacts. What would I do? No, for real. I almost took.

Laszlo's eye out. when I first got. I went to go pet her and I realized the distance is quicker than it usually is because my nails are so long and I almost scooped her little green eye out. I almost had that on my nail. Oh, my god.

it's great. I'm really happy for you and your nails. Thanks.

been doing, which I went, I did four yesterday. I went off the rails. I've.

definitely been like doing this. No, I, yeah. And I already talked with my.

clacking them. I'll do my best not to for the rest of the episode. When you type, are you, have you seen my text messages? I can't, first of all, the clacking, I can't deal with that because there's no subtle texting. Furthermore, I've been making these really long paragraphs because I keep accidentally hitting return and I can't type.

is, in three weeks, you're gonna go back to your other nails and not be able to.

type. Right. I thought that too, but again, I've faced. worse. You what?

worse. You've faced worse. Okay, yeah, no, that's true.

God I had such a hard childhood because I wouldn't be able to do this. Anywho, what's?

going on with you? I'm a little P.O'd. Ooh. Are we gonna talk about lawsuits? Oh.

you know what septum arms are? You know what? I saw someone about to describe that and I decided it was best that I didn't know. Should have scrolled. I mean,

I imagine you're gonna tell me right now. But I was just like, what, but I was curious. I'm like, what are fucking septum arms? Like, I thought it was gonna be like something else entirely. I didn't realize it was gonna be like a full, like, body.

just like spreads out a bit. Well, the thing is the dichotomy on TikTok, it's like, so you scroll, you see that and you scroll to some extremely hot, very, very thin person. that's like, come with me for a day in my life, being a really hot, tiny, tiny, perfect person. This is what I eat in a day. I wake up and I drink.

water. I'm so full after that. My morning water. No, but then I eat a probiotic,

nothing, nothing. And then I look at kale and then I think about salmon and I go.

to bed and cry. No, it's like more than that, but I'm just like, I don't know. Like, first of all, your day is spent doing activities and then like cooking a nothing salad and then eating a bowl of berries. And then I'm just like, that. my disordered eating would be through the fucking roof if I had to eat like that in a day where it's just like it is just so concentrated on just eating.

don't know. I don't know, man, just just pick up a snack. Well, sometimes you can tell it's enough, but sometimes it's very obviously not enough food. And if that person's being true to what they're actually eating, it's scary.

don't realize that these people, it's like, they've probably maybe been. these are habits that they've like, been doing for a really long time. But for somebody that's like, doesn't shop, like that, doesn't know how to prepare meals, like that, can't cook like, I don't know. I mean, I've been alive for this many years and I like still never go to a grocery store.

to, you know, shop. Stop. You'll be fine. Yeah, you'll be fine. Also, one of the plethora of TikToks I made yesterday was talking about people need to stop going on TikTok that has the ornery Gen Z's that hate us and saying how old do you think I look?

My blindness is like age. I don't know what age like. things look to be honest. Like this, especially this age, I don't know what a.

21 year old looks like. Well, they look like a 35 year old because they're.

getting.

really matters. Yeah, well, people... What I'm saying is, if you do look your age, it's really... That's normal. You are your age.

decide that? I don't know. Gen Z, and they hate us. I think Gen Z sets the precedence because they've been looking 95 since they were 10.. It's...

look like a hot 35 year old, like a hot stepmom. So that's not a bad thing. I'm not saying in a bad way. I'm saying you just look like an older, refined hot.

woman. You just look like old enough. It looks like we went to school together, but we didn't. I look... I could have been 16 and pregnant with you.

Facts. Facts. You know what? I saw... I thought of you.

thought of you. I mean, I'm like... For the record, I have not had a facelift. No, we've.

talked about this. That we are excited in our 40s to get facelifts and I was like hot, damn, that looks so good. I can't wait for a facelift. Mm-hmm. Something to look.

forward to. I know, but again, I always think that you're like my age.

lives, I would say. I think that's how time works. No, I'm just saying you're like in.

I'm gonna be like more in the 40s for a while.

What? People at home are gonna start commenting. I'm not saying you look older, I'm saying I look young. Yeah. Right?

good. I'm like, I feel angry right now. No, just your eyes are expressing, but not.

your forehead. Yeah, so, and that's fine. That's what I shoot for. That's what I want. So I pay for it.

Am I an almond gal?

I do love when people and it's very nice when people like. usually it happens on TikTok because they're nicer there than Instagram, but not as nice as YouTube. And they'll be like, Oh my god, Dana, you're a natural beauty. And I'm like,

yeah, there's a one girl where she's like, yeah, men will tell me that, like, they don't make them like you anymore. She goes, I was made in a lab. Basically, like, I have hair extensions. I have a nose job. I have filler.

I'm basically Mattel. Like, what are you talking about? Hi, Barbie in a plastic way. Yeah, exactly. That's not about unity.

Barbie. Exactly. But I mean, like, she looked great. Like you, unless she told you that you might not suspect it, because she didn't look nipped and tucked and lumped and pricked.

and all that. That is one of my biggest fears. It's like fucking Michael Scott in that episode when he's like, something is his biggest fear. And Creed is like, you should have much bigger fears, Michael. And he's like, obviously, being very

best money I've ever spent. Yeah, my job is to, like, always look youthful, but also like, just a little tired. I think that's a secret. Yeah. Like, balance.

is easy for us, because we are tired. How are you feeling? Are you okay? Exhausted, but.

also like, a little run down. I'm a little bit of a weather woman, but also smooth. You.

people that might not know your birthday. Oh my God. Okay, well, that's a litmus test. If you don't know it, then you're fucking fired. You didn't even say like, Thursday.

I almost was gonna be like, are you gonna let everyone know? That's why, you know what?

I was with Raleigh, and no one was hearting it or saying anything, and I was like, should I text back and be like, don't everyone respond at once? And she was like, no. So I didn't. But maybe people were scared. Maybe they were confused.

Yeah, no, you were just straight up, my birthday, be there.

Okay, maybe you said the time. I don't know. I'm gonna go back and fix that, but. Yeah.

Well, you know what? That's growth, and also worrying is like paying a debt. you don't know,

so fuck that shit. Well, and also you can only control what you can, so the amount of time, which I know sounds very simplistic, but the amount of time I was trying so hard, and I do believe in the universe and your connection to that, and the more that you try and control it,

the more the universe is like, oh, no, no. 100%. I was talking about this last night because I think there's something that happens in your late 20s, when that frontal cortex really starts to click, and it's fully formed, where you have this sort of like, oh, shit moment. I'm on this planet. I've arrived, and you're like, what do I do?

Well, your Saturn return is from 29 to 30, and mine was a fugly slut, let me tell you, and however, I'm grateful for that now, truly, the last three years, and it's not saying that nothing hard has happened, but have been the best years of my life, and I'm just like, I truly think that I hadn't found a great love because I was so stressed out about it and didn't love myself, and I know it's frustrating to hear that too, when you're single, and you're like, well, I want these things. It's okay to want those things. I do eventually want that. I hope that happens for me, but if it doesn't, life goes on. I've just found so much happiness and millions of other things, and I've gotten to do so much cool shit in the last few years because I was focusing on me.

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No, you seem more excited about it today. You do. I do.

Okay.

You look low about you.

Tell us. Mine, per usual, are not people. Okay. One of them's a throwback. Do you know what I think is?

That's bizarre. Tell me more.

I don't know. I just, I collected them. I thought that there was something kind of like that. I was sort of like, like turned on by. I thought they were hot.

Well, I stopped drinking cow's milk when I was like eight. But yes, they were.

But during that time, I don't know. It was like they were talking about how like milk makes them feel strong. And I was just like, I was like, I was like, boom. Big dairy propaganda. There was something just like, there was like subtle, like sexual undertones to, like the Got Milk ads.

No, they were hot.

They were hot. Yeah. I don't know. The Got Milk ads are daddy. Okay.

Is your, is he a former vapor?

He smokes a lot of weed. Yeah.

But no, weed isn't nicotine, because some people use, there's like the new that are supposed to help you.

I have one together called like Blips or something. But yeah, they're like, and they have like flavor to them. So you can like, if you need, like some oral fix. But I don't know, like, you know, it's like such like a cowboy thing or something. But when someone's like, like real familiar with their toothpick, you know, and they just like, have it.

It's hot in people's mouths, but to me, they don't funk. They don't work. I need floss. But yes, it's very sexy.

I'm not talking about using it as like a utility.

No hotness.

Not for you guys. Not for like hygiene purposes, but just as like an aesthetic. I dig.

Anyway, are those your two?

Those are my two on that. Yeah. OK. Yeah.

Mine. OK, I only had one and it was. it's not a person, but I am going to add a second, since you brought up cowboys. There is someone on TikTok. Actually, two people.

Oh, my God, that guy. I know what you're talking about. What the fuck?

He's covered in tattoos. I'm pretty sure he lives in Scotland. He's like working with his rough, rough hands. And I'm like, come exfoliate me. What is your deal?

I don't know, but I've definitely watched.

Too many of those videos. Too many of those videos. Someone's like, how many times you watch this? And I'm like, yes.

What's the question? Yeah.

Another person I put on the daddy list is someone who I'm going to not say their name, because I don't want to embarrass them, but someone we were hanging out with the other day. Daddy. You know who. Yeah, OK. My obsession knows no bounds.

Oh.

I don't know. I loved it. And she uses these sucking machines. And she gave me a really good massage of the face, which I just love.

Did she put her fingers in your mouth? She didn't. That's daddy. When they massage your, like, buccal fat.

Well, I still haven't had that. So I would like one with, what is it called?

Face gym.

Face gym. So I do need to do that. But yeah, I hadn't had one in a while. And my god, me. The next day when you wake up and you're just like...

Who's this angel in the mirror staring back at me?

So basic, but that's mine.

Those are my days. That's not basic. Facials are daddy.

Where would we be with the daddy list if you didn't remind us? You're really keeping us afloat here.

Only because I had some good ones to bring to.

I get to speak to your personalities because I never lack on the basement.

Normally, I'm pretty angry with people. And I really want to, like, I'm pretty vindictive.

Speaking of anger and lawsuits, I do want to touch on it. The Tom thing.

Sure.

Because that's obviously basement.

I had the fire of a thousand suns in me. I wanted to punch someone, anyone.

The fire of 1,000 suns. And I'm like, here's the thing. If you didn't hear, I'm sure if you listen to this podcast, you did. Tom was suing Ariana for basically going through his phone or like... What was the actual title?

Of not having authorized permission. And yeah, it was basically trying to, like, level the blame in the whole, you know, cross complaint or the lawsuit that was against him from Rachel.

He then redacted it, but we'll get to that. It said he had bad legal advice. I don't believe that for a second. I think he saw the backlash and came up because...

Why are you going to deactivate your Instagram account ahead of time? He deactivated? If you're not preparing for blowback.

I think that it is telling that he deactivated his Instagram before it was public. So I think you did know the gravity of what was going to happen. Just disgusting and shameful. And not to mention, we all know. on the reunion, he said what Raquel is doing, what Rachel is doing to you is wrong.

It was surprising that he went this route with it. I do think it was, he was ill-advised. Probably didn't understand the full weight of what it was going to be. You were still being advised and you probably should have not done it to begin with. If you're telling me I need to deactivate my account, maybe I don't.

Some critical thinking.

That would have been a good indication that it's probably going to be pretty damaging. The language of whatever is going to be put out there isn't going to be a good look.

No. Yeah, just so upsetting. So obviously glad that it's over pretty much as quickly as it started. But just the fucking audacity. My God.

Well, I don't like the attitude of just because she has amazing things going on in her life, and she's got a wonderful boyfriend, and she's in Fiji. What happened wasn't painful and awful and a terrible thing to experience. That can still 100% be true and exist in her mind and wounds in her. That is a very unfair attitude to have.

Yeah. And I mean, I don't want to touch base on the past too much, but people see, the public, how well, all the opportunities she's gotten and what she's doing. And also she earned all of them and had the talent for everything that's happening. So it's like, that also doesn't make sense for me. But a lot of people weren't there behind closed doors and seeing what we saw.

Yeah. But it's just like, it's like, okay, so what? Like, would it be more fair or unfair for these things, for them to be suing and pulling this shit out if, like, these opportunities weren't happening?

Like, I can.

Excuse me. The logic, it doesn't logic.

It doesn't logic. I can sum up, I can close this conversation in one word in regards to Batman. Loser.

L-I-S-E-R. Yeah. I hate that man. Anyway.

Anyway, what else is up?

Well, I mean, I told you, so like for a long time, you're like, I'm celibate and I was like, I'm celibate. But I told you that that's no longer for me, right? You talked about that, right? Last night? No.

Oh, no. What are you talking about? It's just a mindset, or it's...

No.

When was this?

When you were away at the wedding.

No, you didn't tell me this.

I got for you with somebody.

Wait, what?

Well, you know how like, when you feel like, you definitely have like, a sexual chemistry with somebody, and you know that eventually you're going to have to see it through because, for science?

Absolutely.

So this is like, kind of one of those cases.

Who was it? Willow Bleepit.

What?

Did I just see that right?

Yeah.

Katie. I feel like I know why you didn't tell me this then.

Well, I wanted to tell you in person.

I'm not thrilled about that, but I'm.

I feel thrilled about it. It's great. Wonderful. I feel like, based on my previous theories, theories based on like, what my projections might have been, based on the data that I had gathered earlier, I was correct on the fact that it would be successful and amazing.

So it was? Yeah. Okay, so, is that going to continue? No.

Okay. I mean, I don't know. I guess that is... Not in like a, you know, but like...

Well, I guess that is what categorizes for science. If it's usually like, we just needed to do it. Get it out of our system.

Yeah.

I am so shocked right now.

Yeah.

I cannot.

Sorry to drop that on you.

Yeah, I'm like here in this economy.

I know, but I couldn't.

I didn't know, but okay. Well, I'll be getting more information about this when we are logged off. But yeah, okay.

But yeah, so I broke my dry streak, my dry spell.

Yeah, mine's dry. And I don't know if I ever talked about the science behind my thinking, but I haven't boned since March. So it's been a long time, and I'm okay with saying that. But like, I have just decided, I'm not... The next person I sleep with is going to be someone that knocks my socks off, then my underwear.

You know, I felt the same way. I was like, you know what? Like, that's why I'm not like, dating anyone right now. Because I'm like, unless you...

Yeah, I'm just like, so over it.

Unless you like, really want to like, prove that you're somebody I need to even bother myself with. Not even gonna look your way. And that's also with, like, you know, getting physical with somebody. This person was an exception. Because I just, I was like, I gotta know.

I didn't.

Really? No! Okay, I kept that thought to myself. That was a private thought. Oh, my god.

Picking time bomb.

Yeah, put it off as long as I could.

Wow, this is a lot to take in.

Let it wash over you. But I mean, that was probably the only person I could probably like,

Was it a thing where, like, the second you saw him that night, you were like, oh, this is happening?

It wasn't there.

Literally, what the fuck? I leave, I leave you to your own devices for one weekend.

You can't leave me alone.

I can't leave you alone. I leave you, for, that's the first weekend we've been apart, and I don't know how long. That's crazy. I'm gonna stick a fucking air tag in your shoe. Did you go there?

Did you start it? No. Hmm. Interesante. Yeah.

I just am like, you, just, with a feather, knock me right over.

I know, but I, but I felt like.

You wanted witnesses when you told me this information, but that's fine. It's like when someone is going to break up with you, and they take you to a restaurant because they're hoping you won't make a scene. No, I mean, I'll make a scene.

The thing is, I, no, I'll give you all the, the info that you want. It was like, it's like, hey, you didn't tell me that you were going to be there tonight. I was like, I'm just gonna like, though you were mad. Also, you didn't ask. And then we, just like, kept texting.

What time did he come over?

Late. How late? Late. I don't even remember what time.

Early hours, wee hours in the morning.

Probably, yeah. Because Flora and Rosie came back to my place after for like a minute or so. So it was like, pretty late.

So do they know?

Yeah. Well, Flora was like texting me the next day, and I wasn't responding. And she was like worried that, like I died or something. She was, I'm a little worried about you. Which I, you know.

Well, just FYI, I was in Canada. I could receive text messages.

You weren't texting me. You weren't worried about me.

I'm always worried about you. I'm worried about you when I close my eyes. What are you talking about?

You weren't worried about my, my welfare? I'm just kidding. I was fine. I was great. I was, I was feeling wonderful.

I feel like it's definitely gonna happen again.

I don't know.

Have you guys chatted?

Much? I mean, like, again, it's not like I was like. There was no expectation after anything. Right. It's just like, that was great.

Yeah. No, I mean, I would assume. Did you stay over?

Well, kind of.

Because it was, I mean, it was already like the next day, I would assume. Wild, wild, wild stuff.

But then I was like, I gotta like go do my thing. So.

What's your thing?

I had to go to like the sandwich shop. I had like stuff to do that day.

How's the sandwich shop going? Good. Tell us what the latest is.

Um, it's, I mean, it's thriving. Obviously, we still have like lines. I mean, the lines aren't like crazy long, you know, some days a little bit more than others. But like, I mean, it's still doing really, really well. And so this week, we're doing Christmas in July.

No. Oh, my God.

How did I not tell you about this?

Apparently, you tell me nothing now.

You know, I don't know. Like.

Repunishing me?

You should ask me more questions.

Oh, my God. Not the gaslighting.

You should be more curious about what I have going on in my life.

I'm going to smack you with the microphone. Kidding. No one's ever seen that on a podcast where I'm going to get up and unhook it. I'm going to have Derek unhook it because I don't quite know how. And I'm going to smack you over the head with it.

No. So, yeah, we're doing Christmas in July this week.

That is so, Michael Scott coded. I'm obsessed.

We're leaning into like the holiday, the movie. And so we we're doing some like Avaline, obviously, wine pairings with, like the Cameron and the Kate. And then we have a special sandwich that we're calling the meet you. And we're spelling it like M-E-A-T. And then the pairings are because in the movies, also said in the movies, we have the leading lady and the best friend.

They're going to sit on his lap.

And then obviously, like, I can do it if you need.

You have a bowl full of jellies strapped to your belt.

What the fuck?

Speaking of, is this our last episode with you? Are you going to be?

Hopefully I make it to one more next week.

OK, I'm going to be pushing a little. Do you want to come to the brisk?

The brisk? Yes, you guys are invited.

You come with me.

It's a scary thing. Don't judge me.

No, I know people. It's a very hot topic, but that's what you're doing. So I'm going to support. Allison, you coming?

Hell yeah.

How many more people can I invite?

What?

How many more people can I invite? Invite everyone.

When is this? Well, it's be eight days after the baby's born. So when the baby's born, I'll send an invite with an actual date on it.

I'm like, I'm guessing it'll be on like August 7th.

All right.

Time for my birthday. I know you're the 13th, because I remember birthdays when they're a birthday. brisk, brisk, brisk. Oh, is it brisk, brisk? No, I think brisk, my whole life.

She's like a brisket.

OK, when you spelled it, I was like, the K must be invisible.

A brisket, bris.

A brisket bris covering your cute shirt. Can you just do a quick wipe for me? No, it's like just look at your belly.

I know. Stop it.

Wait, that's exciting.

First of all, I was laughing. It's on your neck. Help me. Why don't you just help out? Look up.

It's literally.

Well, you could, you could help instead of just like the way that you keep.

I'm a victim. You keep blaming me for everything today.

I think you're blaming me, though.

What flavor is this? My hand. Strawberry guava. My hand now smells like strawberry guava.

Yeah, we're also going to have a Christmas playlist, obviously, too. So it's going to be fabulous and a good time and make me feel like something again. It's been a little, you know.

Oh, yeah, I know. I actually just sent Ariana TikTok the other day, because her and I are always like this. It's literally July about spooky season. And I mean, you are, too. But like, so I'm trying to stay present, but I'm like.

I know you love to see it. Yeah, no, I mean, it was so good, like hanging out with her when I was in Fiji, but then I was like, OK. It was like such a tease. I was like, well, I guess I'll see you like in a week. But like.

Yeah, she comes over for so long. We're going to see her for five seconds and then she goes New York. Very proud. Amazing. But like, do I need to sew you to a couch?

After that, she's like, yeah, back to it.

So it goes. Wait, you're stressing me out so bad about every I'm like, do people know?

I can.

Oh, my God.

There's Celsius everywhere.

I'm an idiot. Listen to that typing. I really agree.

Did you find it via Katie?

I, because she doesn't know my birthday.

The thing is, like, I do like. I do know your birthday. It's just like it was either going to be the 25th or the 27th. I wasn't. I wasn't.

Oh, my God. Do you know who texted me?

Who?

The Air One doctor at one in the morning.

Oh, my God.

I didn't block him because I thought it was dramatic. And I was just like, I just never responded to his last text being like, tell me your address and I'm coming to pick you up. And then the one before that was the three in the morning of him changing his tune after he was like, that's the only day. he texted me at 112 a.m. and goes, I'm loving this energy and I'm loving talking to you with a smiley face.

You said that?

No, I didn't say anything. My silence should be deafening.

Maybe like because he feels so good about doing that. He should be like, you know what? I thank you, but no thank you.

I thought about it, but I was like, I just don't want to engage.

He doesn't approach you in like the, you know, $60 strawberry aisle.

Quite a pretty, don't shit where you eat, they say. And I literally eat there. So I'm like, yeah, this is a problem. Not me all high and mighty about it. I'm like, I wore an outfit and someone asked me out and it was great.

The thing is, the next time it could be a home run.

So, well, I don't know sports, but it's been a interception or whatever. Like, what's when they do something bad?

Like a foul, like a foul.

Yeah, flag. Yeah. Or like a penalty, or like get on the bench, whatever that is.

Time out. Penalty.

Anyway, so I want to tell you about that. I know that's like a really brief thing, but I was like, no way.

Do you know another thing that I saw? that people are like real upset about the girl. that's like, we need to bring heels back to the club. Do you see that girl?

That was me referencing earlier. She was one of the ones that was like, oh, looking at age and stuff. I don't look my age. And we were like, I fear you do.

But then she was getting roasted, because they're like, girl,

you'll be wearing that Easter Sunday special.

First of all, don't shame Payless.

Payless, we're big supporters of Payless.

Sunday brunch. I mean, like, girl, if you're trying to make a case for bringing the heels back to the club, those are not the ones.

It was a sensible, thick, blocked heel with like a platform,

which also is a wooden heel. that's like thick. And then the white, like thick straps. And I'm just like, these are a daytime brunch heel.

It was like, is this Amsterdam? Is this the land of wooden shoes? What is happening here? Yeah, I don't know. Someone was like, I was expecting, like a So, Kate, or like, you know, something really dramatic.

It's like, well, the discourse also, people being like, no, we're not wearing heels to the club. They're like, you know, Gen Z's not wearing heels to the club because they're smart. They're wearing tennis shoes. And some people are like, I don't want to see tennis shoes in the club. And I'm like, God, then look up.

First of all, they are smart.

First of all, I didn't. I thought no one was going to the club anymore. I'm still stuck on that part. I'm still stuck on the like club or no club. Then this one girl gets on stunning, stunning woman.

How was your trip to the emergency room? Yeah, I was like ankle.

You know, those girls, they can like literally just like, live in a heel. And I'm like, there's not. I don't know what heel anyone wears for more than. I don't know if I have to stand for more than 45 minutes. I'm complaining.

First of all, millennials should stop talking, because we were all in business cash in 2012 at the club. There is like not as fierce as we thought it was. Second of all, I used to wear straight up six inch heels because I worked at Nordstrom in women's shoes all throughout college. So like and we had a discount. So I was like spending half my money there.

Yeah, like the sitting shoes. I don't want to do that. No, hell, no. That's. I mean, I am like, everyone's like, oh, no, the ballet flats.

I'm well and I'm not.

I wear heels to like events and things like that. But I hate it.

They look amazing. But I am struggling actually about Thursday because since we're going to dinner, I was going to wear more of a heel. But then we might go. it's, you know, it's been a Monday and whatever. So we haven't gone dancing in the past years, but I'm like, this year we might go do something.

Those ones from Amazon that I got, that I have them black and silver. Ariana has them in silver that are like those, like, they're like the, the Ghani dupes, the buckle. You know what I'm talking about?

Send me a link. Yes, I do.

But they're, I got them for 50 bucks and they're also so fucking comfortable. They're like, have a squishy sole.

I love a squishy sole. You know, when you're going online shopping and then you come back to consciousness and you're like, what just happened? Yeah. That happened to me yesterday. I have many, many packages coming my way and I'm like.

Thank you for reminding me I need to return some dresses. You're welcome. That would be bad.

From the Love Island.

Yeah. Whoa. The haul. Whoa. Yeah.

Very supportive.

Very held and supported. I don't know, no strappy heel situation could dance. Absolutely not. I mean, once you get a few drinks in, you, like you can't feel anything. So it's fine.

Sometimes you don't have them.

I don't even need pants. I don't need anything. So what, what shoes am I wearing? Doesn't matter.

The amount of time, mind you, I was so broke when, as most people, when I first got out of college and was just like for the most of my life. And I had this pair of, do you remember the Sam Edelman booties with the slight thick heel that were suede and then had tassels on the outer ankle? Everyone had those. Yep. I had, that was like my shoe.

Also what, what I remember seeing at the club were the Jeffrey Campbell huge platform, like boot, booties.

With the, like, the black leather and the brown heel. Yeah.

Oh, they had, they had different color variations of the black ones, right? And I remember I wanted them so bad.

So bad. So bad.

I didn't have them, but I wanted them.

Yeah. I just, it's, I think that comfort in your thirties bleeds out everywhere. Like traveling comfortably, staying comfortable places, home, being comfy shoes. It's just like, you. just don't care as much.

Yeah. Like I'm wearing, I'm wearing Jorts right now. Let's face it.

I love Jorts. They're great. I'm so obsessed with, Jorts, have become like a really important part of me.

I love them. Yeah, really. Like, I don't know. I've been a fan of baggy clothes for a really long time. Um, mostly because I like aesthetically how it looks, but also like I love comfort when things aren't clinging to your body and you don't have to worry about, like presentation of things.

I have been sucking in since 1997.

I don't even know.

I suck in constantly. I'm doing it right now. I'm like never not sucking in. So it's nice. when you're in a baggy situation.