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Hey, Will, what's your middle name?
My middle name?
Yeah. Quick.
It's Emerson.
That's right. You don't sound sure.
It is Emerson. No, no, no. I'm not. I just thought that you knew. I thought you knew everything about me.
No, I didn't. No, I don't. Sean, your middle name?
Patrick. Patrick.
Really? Oh, well, you're right.
Sean Patrick Hayes. Yeah. And, JB, what's yours? Let me guess. yours.
It's something. It's something. It's very. It's like.
Hurtful.
No.
It's my dad's. It's my dad's first name. So if he's listening, careful.
Oh, missing?
No.
No, I know what it is. I know what it is. It's.
That's Sean, you dick. It's Kent. My dad's name is Kent. It's Kent. Kent.
Kent. You can't ever forget it.
So you're Kent, Jason Bateman?
No. Jason Kent Bateman. Dumb fuck. Middle name. All right.
Welcome to Smart Lessons.
Less.
Smart.
Less.
Smart. Less.
I never showed you this video. Here we go. I have a video to show you.
Hang on.
Open the book.
Oh, wait. Here it is.
Oh, yeah. Have you seen this?
Is that you and Scotty? God, I hope that's you and Scotty.
Yeah. It is. Is it? It's us. It's us.
It's us. It's us. It's us. Yeah.
Why? Where? When? Listen, we have Sean and Scotty in one of these self-propelled locomotives going down a track.
Yeah. It's awesome. It's called rail.
Through a redwood forest.
Like a little paddle boat, you'd ride in a lake on.
Yeah. Through the forest. It's called rail biking.
Where was that? Was that on Second Honeymoon?
That was up north. North of San Francisco. We went last weekend, was it? Or two weekends ago or something like that.
Why were you guys up there messing around on the trail?
I saw it on Instagram, or something, this rail bike, that you just pedaled on the railroad tracks.
So you're like Scotty packing overnight bag?
Yeah. We just went up there and we just did it.
We got to do this?
Yeah. It's amazing.
I can't imagine being as spontaneous and happy-go-lucky as that. Just like you're scrolling through.
Well, it was planned a little bit.
But it still came from just scrolling through Instagram like, hey, that looks fun. Hon?
Yeah.
What are you doing next weekend?
Why not? I mean, there's a whole world out there. You know what I mean?
I just feel like it's so disruptive to pick up and leave the place where you're settled. I just have zero wanderlust. I'm not proud of it.
You don't, huh?
No. But you love the outdoors and stuff, don't you? It was so beautiful.
From the inside of an air-conditioned car.
I was saying to you when we were flying to New York, I was like, I pointed out the window and I go, there's a whole world out there.
I want to get it.
I was saying to somebody yesterday, I want to get into the world. It's all I want to do.
Wouldn't it be fun to all go, the three of us and our significant others, to go do an adventure like that? Just for the weekend?
Yeah. But can it be higher end than paddle boarding down a rail?
Not paddle boarding.
Yes. We can do something a little more significant than that.
You know, one of the things that we should talk about, but probably not on the podcast, but I'm going to do it anyway, is Sean and I were talking with the ladies, i.
e. your wife, JB, and my significant other, Alessandra, and the ladies.
We can include Scotty in there.
Scotty was there too, and then our other female friend, who's an advisor to the podcast, has a lot of opinions.
Oh, man.
No, no, no.
Oh, that person, yes.
And I said, you know, we ought to go to, because they want us to come, then we can talk to our buddy, Mitch Rose. We ought to go to Australia at Christmas, which is their summer, which I've never done, and do the tour, and do like Sydney Opera House.
Yeah, and I've never been.
I would like to do that, but can we go, can we do, we did skiing last year, can we go beach this year?
So, this is what I was going to say. We go there, and then we do a beach.
They don't have any beaches in Australia. They don't.
Are you crazy?
No, it's all landlocked.
And we go to like, we go to like the Gold Coast somewhere, and we do like a week of like incredible beach.
Why do we have to be working when we're vacationing?
We do a little bit of both.
But my thing, but Will, my thing is, you get the beach here, on the West Coast, wouldn't you want to go somewhere different?
Without the 17 hour flight.
What beach? What beach?
What do you mean? Have you looked at a map? It's all, we're on the edge of the water.
You mean the California beaches? I'm talking about tropical beaches. First of all, Sean, nice, try. You might as well still live in Chicago, okay? Because you go from your fucking house to fucking Larchmont, and that's it.
You could live, it could be anywhere. You might as well move into a mall, inside, okay? Then you and Scotty can do the fucking laps to the food court. What I'm suggesting is- I'm so white, it's true. We go to Australia or somewhere like that, and we go somewhere that we wouldn't normally go.
that's out of our comfort zone. That's why, and then we do a full beach experience.
I actually would like that. I would like to, I've never been to Australia, I would like to go to Australia.
I love Australia, like I can't even tell you.
We do have to go somewhere, but wait, guys, listen. I don't want to keep our fancy guest waiting.
So rude to talk about in front of the guest.
But you guys, she's sitting in there waiting from overseas. She's in the UK right now.
What?
Yes, but you'd never know, with her flawless American accent, that she does. She can act, she can sing, boy can she sing, wow. And in her most recent film-.
You wrote that part too.
I wrote all of this. And in her most recent film, she can even swim the English Channel, which I tried to watch last night, but the links they send you, I'm forgetting it. This effervescent young lady's middle name is Jazz. Remember, we were just talking about our middle names. And she has been a hot-.
Annette Bening or Jodie Foster, which one?
Nope, it's neither. And she has been a hot ticket in the film industry for almost a decade, starting when she joined one of the biggest movie franchises of all time. Apparently, her Duolingo score in French is pretty impressive too. It's the radiant Daisy Ridley.
Daisy Ridley, I know Daisy, a tiny bit. Hi, Daisy.
Hi guys. Oh, my God, what time is it there?
It's 6.
27.
Oh, that's all right.
It's not that crazy, it's 6.
27.
. What do you think, she's on Mars? Daisy Ridley, welcome to Smart List, it's so great to have you.
Thank you.
I know, I'm so excited to talk to you and meet you. I'm a massive fan.
It's so weird, I've listened to it so much and now I'm like, I'm here.
Have you really? No, you haven't. Of course.
I'm sorry, it's sounding a little bit like drive time radio this morning. We're a little too chatty, sorry. We'll calm down. We'll calm down.
Daisy, do you think we should go to Australia for Christmas with our families?
I got back from Australia 10 days ago, shooting a movie there. Had a great time, can't recommend it enough.
Really?
So what are you doing in England right now? Do you live there?
I live here, yeah.
And you grew up there? I grew up there.
So you're cozy at home right now?
I'm cozy at home. I grew up here. I've never actually lived anywhere else bar for work. I'm a real homebody.
I love London.
Do you find a nice place to stay there, Sean?
I do, no. The Whitby hotels are amazing, right? Anybody? No.
I like the car.
But London is great, I love it. I always wondered what it would be like. Do you appreciate it like we appreciate it, or are you just like, there's the Big Ben, there's the blah, blah, blah.
It's so old and beautiful and gorgeous. Yeah.
Every time I go past the Houses of Parliament, I'm like, oh. And then I walk into town. Parks are beautiful. I mean, summer in London is really nice. Yeah.
So I'm very happy to be here right now.
Have you ever desired to live somewhere else?
Me and my husband were going to move to LA for a few months, just before lockdown. So we had like a place booked and everything. We were just going to see what it was like for a few months.
Try it on.
And then lockdown.
Now, why were you going to try it on? Were you getting pressure from the adults in your life that say, can you please be closer to the studios?
No, not at all. It was just, I guess, a curiosity. And then it didn't happen, and then we didn't. But my husband, who is in, based on a true story.
Right. And his name is Tom and his last name is?
The best.
The best name ever.
Yeah. I mean, does that just not roll right off the tongue?
Tom Dittman.
So, because of that show, he's now lived there. Well, he's about to live there for the second time. So it's the best of both worlds.
So, then, what are you going to do? Are you going to join him or are you going to be busy on another project? How do you guys work all that stuff?
We do what we can.
We do our best. And that's pretty nice. We do our best. That's pretty nice because Young Woman in the Sea now wonderfully has a theatrical release. So I get to do some work for that in L.A.
So we'll be there together.
That's so nice.
And then, yeah. Yeah. But we work it out pretty well.
He's so good on that. It is called Based on a True Story. I know Sean, and Will is probably in your queue there. Go ahead and enjoy that.
Thank you.
It's on the Peacock.
And you've got no skit in the game on this one?
Oh, yes. Oh, no.
Sure, I do. Oh, you? Well, explain to us, just for full disclosure.
Well, I get quite a bump if a couple more people start watching it. So we're just two away.
Wait, do you produce it?
Executive produces it. Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
And I didn't. Listen, this is your guest. I am not trying to, you know, get to my future.
No, well, we have to watch it.
You kept winking at Daisy.
That's a tick. Prompt her. Be sensitive.
That's a tick.
Now, listen, Daisy, tell us about growing up there, because you, first of all, five girls in one family.
Oh, yes, but my two half-sisters are a lot older because there's an age gap with my parents. So we didn't grow up with them, but three of us was still a lot.
That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. And father was a photographer. Mother worked at a bank.
Nobody else kind of had the bug to get into the business.
Well, my mom actually worked in picture publicity for a long time.
I think worked on Friends. She worked on some really cool stuff.
Oh, really? Yeah.
What did she do with Friends?
Well, she was the picture publicist at Channel 4.
Oh.
So when all those big shows were going on and she was doing the pictures, having a great time.
That show, that show was so related because we all knew that, like, that thing of when, like, your job's a joke, you're broke, your love life's DOA. You know? Oh, my God. You feel like you're always stuck in second gear. It hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year.
Or even like a year.
Yeah.
Oh, my God. Can we hold there for a second?
Yeah.
So, Will, you're familiar with those lyrics because you watched that show religiously?
No, that song is omnipresent. It was in the 90s. No, it's not. Inescapable.
No, no.
It's only inescapable if you watch the show religiously, and this is a big, big thing I'm learning about you is that you're a closet Friends fan.
I want to say closet. I love Friends. I love the Friends. Daisy, you love Friends, too, right?
Don't stop diverting.
I do love Friends, yeah. Yeah, no.
All the Brits love Friends. I love all the Friends, and I love the show, and I love our Friends. I haven't watched. I'm embarrassed to say I haven't actually watched a ton of the show, but I know that song because it was everywhere.
But that's your ringtone, I guess.
No, but I have dropped that on the girls before. Yeah. I have done that to Jen and gone like, I know. I feel you. You know, your job's a joke.
You're broke. Your love life's DOA.
But she's like, fuck off.
Sorry, Daisy. Wait, wait, Daisy. Let's go back. So your mom worked in publicity, maybe did some stuff for Channel 4, I think. So what was the moment you go, you're like, mommy, I need to...
Oh, my God.
I'm just.
I can't do that nowadays.
You did. You did.
Mommy.
Yeah, what was the first thing?
Well, I was.
. At primary school, I was slightly misbehaving. What? And we used to go... We'll come back to that.
Is this the Tring Park school, or is this before Tring Park?
This is before Tring Park.
Don't show off. Because, guys, just so you know, Tring Park, it looks like Downton Abbey. It's like unbelievable. I can't believe you went to school there.
Oh, yeah. It was literally... And I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. It was literally...
Same. I love it.
I was quite naughty at school as a child. And then my mom, to keep us busy in the summer holidays, used to send us to this music thing where kids would go and, I guess, sort of like camp for you guys. And I had a friend there who went to boarding school. I was like, boarding school sounds amazing. And she thought if I was busy, I would behave better.
And so I auditioned for this performing arts school, having never really done performing arts, and then ended up staying there from nine till 18.
Wow.
So, over the course of that time, fell in love with all of the performing arts.
That's amazing.
Now, can I ask you what your flavor of misbehavior was?
Well, I mean, I could have been that bad if I was fairly young. But just if I wasn't busy enough, I would start distracting other kids.
With humor or throwing shit at them? What? I don't know. Asking for a friend. I had a few different encouragements not to return, shall we say.
And I kind of mixed it up quite a bit.
I went to boarding school and I was not kicked out. I make this distinction. I was asked not to return. Yeah.
Very good.
That's what they're like.
My first ever job, actually, I was asked not to return for the second week. It was honestly fucking soul crushing.
Really? Wait, wait, wait.
What happened?
Well, the worst thing was it was a workshop thing to do a play. It wasn't even a play.
It was like a table read or whatever.
It wasn't even recorded. What? Yeah, so we were doing the workshop for two weeks. And on the Friday, they were like, you don't need to come back next week.
Oh, my God.
It was hideous. Hideous. And obviously, like, I had taken time out of my job, because at the time I was working at a pub and I thought, oh, my God, because I was terrible, honestly.
Really?
No, I don't believe that.
No, seriously. They were like, you. bring nothing to this.
Were you good at working at the pub?
I actually was, yeah.
Yeah.
Really? Was that pouring the, doing the, what's it called? The draft.
Doing the pints.
Yes.
The draft. Yeah, doing that. And then you do the little haircut off the top of it.
A well poured, actually, I shouldn't say that. I mean, pouring pints in London, you don't do that thing.
Why? Or you just let it drip over.
I don't know. A little cascade.
But you were good. If somebody wanted to come in for a cheeky pint, you could just serve them up nicely and, right, and then send them on their way.
Cheeky pint. Yeah.
I actually had a very strange thing recently where I was in the, I mean, the, like, 11th arrondissement of Paris, in a hotel doing some press for a tiny movie I made a couple years ago. And a guy at breakfast comes over and he goes, are you Daisy? I was like, yeah, you're so familiar. I used to serve him at the pub.
Oh, wow.
And he, he's a photographer, did a book on Bowie and was there promoting the book. And he was like, literally the last time I saw you, you were pouring me a pint saying, oh, I have this audition, hopefully it will go well.
And it was Star Wars.
And that was the last time I saw him.
That's crazy. What's Bowie?
David Bowie.
Oh, Bowie.
Bowie, Bowie. I thought you said Bowie.
A lot of, a lot of Brits say Bowie. Yeah.
Oh, I didn't hear that.
I'm here to, I'm here to translate for you, Daisy.
Wait, so that's what I want to ask. Like, you dropped out of college, right? To go, to take Star Wars, right?
I dropped out of university. Yeah. But I mean, it was a, it was a, it wasn't like. you had to be enrolled and be on campus sort of thing. Right.
You could do it online or something. Yes. But was there any hesitation at all?
Trump University, was it?
No.
Okay. There is a class action, so you can get involved with it.
You can get a piece. I'm just saying, you can wet your beak, you can wet your beak out of it.
Was there any hesitation at all in accepting that role at such a young age, because being in school or whatever, for fear that it might, like, did you even think about it might change your way of life forever? Or were you more like, get me the hell out of here, I want to work? You know what I mean? Like, did you ever think about, like, how much it would change your life?
Well, JJ is so convincing. You know, I mean, you get inside those eyes, that vortex. there, JJ will talk you into anything. You melt.
You melt.
I actually have a hilarious text from him. The best. He used to say to me, your eyes are so big. So I was watching something I did last year and my eyes are so massive in the thing. I took a picture and sent it to him, and he's literally sent me a birthday text with just like my eyes everywhere.
That's funny.
There was zero hesitation, no. I was desperate for the role and had been waiting seven months from my first audition. So I was like, gimme these.
You auditioned seven months before you got the yes?
Yeah. I did a number of auditions over a seven month period.
Oh, my God.
And did you just tell the pub, I can't work anymore because I'm now, I'm going to be doing Star Wars. See you guys later.
I said, I've got a job, so I'm going to have to go bye-byes.
Really?
Yeah. I didn't tell.
Did they say, why are you speaking to us like a four-year-old? Yeah.
You have to make bye-byes.
They were like, what's wrong with you? Yeah, no, I was just like, oh, I just got a job. I have to go. And no one knew what was going on. for a few months anyway.
I didn't tell anyone but my family.
What part of town was that pub in, just in case they're listening?
It's the Union Tavern in Westbourne Park.
Union Tavern in Westbourne Park.
Why? Do you know it? Are you going to go visit it?
I'm going to go there in two weeks. When I go over there, I'm going to go say hi for days.
By the way, it's a really gorgeous pub. It's right on the canal. It's right by Portobello. Yeah.
I love Portobello. On a Saturday? On a Saturday? One of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life was a guy. We were walking down Portobello Road on a Saturday.
Who's we? Who's we?
I guess it was Chappie and me probably. Yeah, there we go.
Got it.
Because he lives up in Queen's Park. No, I know. So we're just walking.
Just need to hear Chappie in one more time.
I know. And so this is my friend, Mark Chappell. That's two.
That's three. Yep.
And so we're walking along, and we see a guy. Beautiful Saturday. We see a guy in like an orange Sherbert-colored Lamborghini with the top down. And you know that road is so packed on a Saturday, right? And those stoplights just before you start getting down into Portobello Road.
And this guy comes along. He's at the stoplight in this orange thing, and everybody's looking. And then the light goes green, and he guns it. And he's only got about 70 yards to go, and the next light is red. He has to stop.
And everybody collectively laughed at this guy in his face. It was so good. It was so, so good. Anyway, Union Tavern. Okay.
We'll be right back.
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So you didn't tell your family when you first got it, or you only told your family, nobody else?
I only told my family.
Wow. And just because you didn't want what? Why weren't you like, why didn't you tell the world? Like, oh my God, everybody, I got this.
Oh, no, I wasn't allowed. Oh, no, no, I wasn't allowed. And I took that very seriously.
I know John Boyega said he got in a cab and told the cabbie straight away. But I was like, so scared to say anything. No, I told my dad was asleep when I told him and he went, Jesus Christ. And I told my brother and sister when I walked in. Yeah.
Yeah, and then I kept it secret.
I mean, it completely changed your whole life. It's so exciting. Obviously, if you listen, and these guys are so sick of me, and you're probably so sick of talking about it. I'm sorry. But just a massive fan of the franchise and you.
No, of course, yeah. I'm excited.
He wants to know, she's not too embarrassed to ask, which of the planets is real?
What's your favorite planet? Who is your favorite? slash one of ours?
Well, I'm excited for the new one. You're going to do a new one or three, or we don't know yet, but you're playing.
I'm doing one for now.
Can you tell us anything about it?
I can tell you I was surprised. I made a movie.
That's not enough information. I want to know what happens.
Well, I made a movie with my husband called Mac Pie. And I had one day off shooting and I was invited to breakfast with Kathy Kennedy. And I was like, sure, because we occasionally take a meal together.
And for my sister Tracy, Kathy Kennedy produces those films.
Yes, head of Lucasfilm.
Thanks, Sean. There you go, that's my sister.
And I thought we were just having breakfast. And my friend was like, oh, imagine if they're doing another rate thing. And I was like, I doubt it. And halfway through breakfast, she said, we are, how do you feel? And I was surprised.
So cool. Yeah, it's very cool. Different writer, different director. It will be quite a different feeling, I imagine.
Who's writing, who's directing?
Yeah, who's writing, who's directing?
Stephen Knight is writing.
Oh, nice.
And directing is Charmaine O'Boy Chenoy, who has made some unbelievable documentaries.
And it's very exciting. And I shall be reading a script soon-ish.
Ah, that's so cool.
Um,
I, no. I think I'm going to, not a secret vault.
Do you want me to just send it to you?
No, I think I'll have to go somewhere.
Will you send it to me after you read it?
Oh, yeah, yeah. You just text it to me.
I'll take a picture of every script page.
Please.
And then just, yeah, and a PDF, please.
So, I'd imagine that you were somewhat kind of self-prepared for the, for the, all of the attention, the profile, after Star Wars came out. But did it match your preparation and expectations? Tell me how you dealt with being, you know, unable to walk down the street overnight.
I didn't know what to expect. And everyone had made it out to be crazy, crazy, crazy. And obviously, as you all know, when things come out, there's a flurry of activity. And then things sort of calm down again. So, it was confronting, because it was strange initially for people to want to chat.
Because I'm not that chatty. So, I'd be like, um. And then it sort of goes away again. But people are very nice. And, yeah, it sort of took its time to calm.
Yeah. But tell me, like, I mean, I've said this before to other people, like, like other people who've been in the franchise. Like JJ, or like, not JJ, but other actors who've been in Star Wars. Is like, like Adam Driver, whoever. What is it like to be, like, if it was me, I'd wake up every day going, I can't fucking believe I'm in this movie.
Like, how do you, at such a young age, cope with, or stuff your excitement. Like, you can't show.
Sean, you'd have a tough time, they'd have a tough time shooting around your boner, I guess. Oh, my God.
Well, wide angle, wide angle.
Guys, we're going to go a little tighter again.
We're going to pick up all the wides at the end of the shoot, I guess. Fucking. first six weeks are just coverage.
No, but like, at such a young age, that's so funny. At such a young age, where you just, I know you can't like, holy shit. And then John Williams, talk about that, like writing, you have your own theme written by John Williams.
I mean, my, one of my favorite things ever is me and John Williams are pen pals. Oh, wow. That's so cool. Yeah, I really, that's crazy.
And what was it like to hear that first time, for the first time?
That was crazy. I mean, so much of it was honestly overwhelmed at the beginning. I can't remember a large chunk of everything.
Oh, shit.
But, I mean, even with filming, I can't remember like specifics.
But also, I had a group of people to sort of hold on to. And JJ, as you all know, is amazing.
JJ's okay. JJ's okay. He's okay. Well, we don't want him to get too far over his skis, because we know he's listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's just like, JJ, cool, it. All right?
Yeah.
Just cool it.
And then I was so like, I was in awe, like preparing for this to go through YouTube and hear your unbelievable singing voice. Like, I don't know that a lot of people know that, that you can sing so unbelievably. Like, how did you, when did you first realize that? And why haven't we seen more of that?
Well, I have had no shame in asking anyone to put me in a musical. Like, literally. no shame. I've done it on national TV, everything. It's going to happen.
It's not happened, yet. It will. No, the Barbara Streisand thing, which is another crazy thing that is-.
Yeah.
Occasionally, I'm like, oh my God, that was JJ. JJ introduced the two of us. And initially I met her because she was meant to be doing Gypsy. So- Like the movie? That whole thing was so, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow. Yeah, so there was a potential of testing to be in it. Oh, wow. And it was, that was insane.
I heard the house is crazy. Like, there's a mall underneath the house. Like, she has a shopping mall. Yeah.
But I mean, just sat with her. I was like, wow, you are Barbara Streisand.
Yeah.
That is, that sort of, you know, effervescence and power from someone is-.
Did you have to sing in front of her?
Well, we sang together.
You recorded? Yeah, they recorded at the ballet from a chorus line. Yeah. With Anne Hathaway. Huh.
Yeah. It's a hard song to sing and you guys knocked it out of the park.
It was so overwhelming. And that weekend I also presented, that was one of the craziest things. The film had come out. It was all nuts. And then I presented at the Oscars with Dev Patel, which was wonderful.
But the day before I had recorded with Barbara Streisand. And that weekend was one of those, what the fuck is going on? This is insane. Yeah. That was one of those weekends.
How'd old Tommy Bateman do through all that?
Oh, we went together then.
Yeah. No. Really?
No, we met on Murder on the Orange Express.
Great movie.
What do you think he was doing that weekend?
Yeah, I'll tell you what he was doing. He was learning his lines based on a true story. You can see it on Peacock.
You think before they wrote it, you think he was-.
Oh, of course. Yeah, no. All Bateman's work ahead. So, Shawnee, let's ask her about Murder on the Orange Express. And if she can give us any tips about- Hang on.
Cool it, Will. You're not on this trip. Shawnee and I are going to go on the Orient Express at some point. And we'd like a little bit of research from you.
Are you kidding? You guys won't even go to fucking La Cienega. You think you're going to go to the Orient Express?
It's like five blocks away.
If anybody's going, it's me. Go ahead.
Yeah, tell us about the Orient Express.
Patrick Doyle is a wonderful friend of mine. He did the music for that movie.
Thanks for stopping the interview for that.
Thanks for the heads up in case we bump into one.
I wish I could tell you about the actual Orient Express. I got freebies, but I gave it to my parents. So they've been and had the most amazing time.
What did they say? I really want to do that.
You're not coming.
I mean, it's unbelievable. You have to fully wear a suit to dinner or evening attire.
Sorry, Shonda has a question. No, not track suit. Keep going, Dizzy.
Wait, for what?
You have to be fancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So wait, listen to this. So the first time I was ever in London, like this is my last – Will's laughing.
Will's having a tough time.
Okay.
He's so kind of him to always prep us for every sentence.
Here we go. But speaking of that, the first time I was ever – There's another one. In London.
What I just want to say is, but wait.
Go ahead. But wait.
I fucking love you. God damn it. I could do a whole day with you.
This is all going to be cut.
Not two, just one. Keep going.
In a fish market. So listen. So here's my – Here it is.
Here's the other one.
So listen. Never mind.
It's not going to be that great of a story. Don't tee yourself up. Just say the thing.
Okay. The first time I was in London, I had to go out to –.
God, you feel so naked without the bib.
I'm sorry.
We'll get back to your career, Daisy.
We'll know it this, Daisy. Sorry. I'm so sorry.
No, but take my judging out. The first time I went to London, I went to this restaurant, and they required a jacket for you to go sit down, like you're talking about the Art Express. And I didn't have one on. I had like a – No, kidding. I don't know what I had.
Like a trash machine.
Should I take a guess what you had?
Hoodie?
Hoodie and a Chicago Cubs t-shirt?
Yeah, with a cardigan underneath it.
Exactly.
I walk in, and they're like, sorry, sir, we can't serve you without a jacket. And so they said, we have a closet full of jackets for you to choose from. And I was like, wait, what? And I'm like, the table we're sitting at is three feet away from us. It's right there.
Can I just walk to the table and sit down, please? Like, no, you have to pick a jacket. There are these jackets in storage for people who show up with no jacket. So I put like this oversized jacket, like from the 1980s or 90s.
Completely ruining your outfit.
It was a long way to go for that story. Sorry, Daisy.
Wait, so were you with Scotty?
Yeah.
Scotty had a jacket on?
He did have a jacket on.
You bet he did. Nope. Knows how to read. Anyway.
Sorry, Daisy. I'm so fucking sorry. Well, let's start over.
Let's just start over.
So, Murder on the Orient Express. Brilliant. I love that movie. Sometimes I think about dying. I saw that fucking great American accent.
Great character. So into you. I can take my eyes off you every scene.
Talk about the American accent, Daisy. When was the first time that you can remember doing it? Maybe not even in a role. Do you remember the first time you tried it?
No. I mean, as Brits, the American accent one thinks of with L.A. is the, like, oh, my God. thing. Like, that is the thing.
But I actually met my.
That's really accurate.
Yeah, that is accurate.
I met my dialect coach through Tom Holland, who has been a guest on this show.
Oh, yes. We love Tom.
Any time a Brit comes on, we always talk about American accents because we're fascinated to hear ourselves.
Well, his was so good, I was doing an English accent in that film, that in lockdown, I was like, well, I want to use my time wisely. So I started just doing American accent lessons. And it served me well because I did three films with an American accent right after each other. Wow.
Does it feel comfortable enough to you where you don't even have to think about it? You can just think about the acting?
Well, the strangest thing was that I don't really have a process as such, and I want to be one of those people that does. But with an American accent, it sort of does give you that because I have to sit down and go through the whole thing and have someone with me making sure I sound right. So it does feel like a process in a way. But I did two films in an English accent last year and thought, I cannot remember how to do this. And then I just did a film in an American accent and thought, I cannot fucking remember how to do this.
So now you're lost kind of in between.
Yeah, I'm like, who am I?
You could go into mime work. maybe instead. Is that a fix?
Yeah. When you were working on an accent, were you doing it kind of, well, obviously, like you said, you did during lockdown, and then you kind of work on it, as you're leading up and then work every day on that scene, sort of as you're getting ready, working with the dialect coach?
No, because I, and I think that's a COVID thing. I've only done one film with a dialect coach on set and she was doing everyone. So usually I prep on the Sunday and then I do the week, as is sort of alone, I suppose. And then ADR is obviously helpful.
Daisy, do you lean on an acting coach or any acting kind of thing, person for each role? Are you like, you know what? I got this. I did the work. I studied.
I went to school for it. I know what I'm doing.
I do not lean on anyone and I've not worked with an acting coach. That's not to say I think I-.
You don't need it.
I mean, I'm sure I do need it.
No, because some actors do, some actors don't, you know.
And even those that use them might not need them. They just, they like the interface. Yes, exactly. They like that sort of partnership, I think.
I like to be very.
. I do all my thinking and all my work and then I like to come and I'm quite a... I don't... I take my work very seriously. I do not take myself very seriously.
So I like to.
. I'm quite a messer-abouter on set, I suppose. But I'm never like interrupting anyone else, and obviously there are times where you can't do that. But I like to really just have a great time on set.
You haven't worked with Tom, yet, have you?
Well, just the film we met on.
Ah, yeah, there's that.
Oh, yeah.
But we were not together then, so that.
. No, and then he wrote the film we made last year. But he was filming based on a true story and we were filming here. And I think that would have been very difficult for him to have been on set, because I was acting and he was writing and I was like, oh my God, I think that would have made me very self-conscious.
So you guys are doing the movie together. How early on in the film did you start to see the first spark? Walk us through it, because I know Will loves a good rom-com. He just likes to know the meet-cutes and everything. So just go slow for him.
I love a meet-cute.
Well, another of your guests, Penelope Cruz, sort of takes credit for us being together.
Does she? Really?
Yeah. It was sort of, we were like best friends. That's how it starts. And then we were together. And then, when we came back together for the premiere, Penelope, I'm not even going to try and do her accent, but she said your connection was so strong.
Do it, try it right now.
Your connection was so strong.
That's great.
I'm so sorry for all the Spanish people.
That's really good.
Yeah, but we were best friends immediately.
Okay, so your best friend's on set. And is he, do you get the sense that he is starting to feel like maybe things are maybe going to be better than friends? Oh, my God. No, we're going to walk right through this.
Yeah, we have to. Jesus Christ.
Was the first declaration of like, hey, I like, now you're talking to a guy, I've been married for 25 years. The last relationship, it was like school, right? Where you're passing notes, for Christ's sake.
I don't know how this stuff happens. I like you.
Yeah. You know, will you go with me? Or whatever the hell, we used to say. Go with me, yeah.
How did it happen?
Did you pass him a note? Was it a little giggle after a take? What are we doing here? Accidentally brushing a man? What are we doing?
Yeah, let's get out of here. What's happening?
Oh, my God.
Do you want to share a ride to the hotel?
Tell me what happens, Daisy.
If you don't kiss me right now.
Was it that clear?
Daisy, come on. Oh, my God.
I'll call Tom right now. I'll get it from him.
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