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We were just talking about Shawshank, and I was going to say to Will, Jay Bertori came on, that my philosophy in life is kind of.
Oh, this is good. Hang on.
No, this is good. This is good. You'll like it.
Yeah. Everybody pulls. Pull over, um, and, uh, get out the pen. Uh, by the way, this is Shawshank Redemption, I think.
Shawshank Redemption.
For Tracy.
So the end of the movie. So the whole movie, Morgan Freeman is talking about, like, uh, you know, he goes in front of the, what are they called? The panel or whatever. The people who... Parole board.
Kind of the board. Yeah.
Parole board.
Yeah. And he's, parole board. And he's like, he, he tells them what they think they want to hear. He's like, no, I've been, you know, reformed. I'm good.
I, I've learned my lesson. And they always deny his, his parole. And then, at the end of the movie, he finally just is like, you know what? Fuck it. Mm-hmm.
This is who I am. I, you people are crazy. Right. I didn't learn anything. Blah, blah.
And then that's when he gets released. That's it. That's my philosophy for life.
And that's what, that's what full release comes from honesty. Well, two ways.
Sorry. So everybody, go ahead and put your car back in drive and toss that paper, uh, either out the window. If you still have an ashtray in the car, use that.
It's good to know. Because we really didn't, we really didn't get an end to it.
Um, but it's nice that Sean's philosophy on life is like, oh, like, like, you know,
don't try to be something you're not. Yeah, exactly.
Right. I, I, I, I, I agree with you. Authenticity is, is, uh, is, is a thematic that I'm on, a project that we're, that I'm working on right now. That's the theme of the, of the thing. Oh, very good.
It's a great evergreen.
Authenticity.
Hey, Jason.
Yeah. Hi.
Why did the man fall down the well?
Oh boy.
Because he didn't see that well.
That's exactly right.
Wait, who, wait, Willie, you got, um, when we had Jordan Peele on his film, uh, Nope. Yeah. I, I always just thought it was just a fun way to say, yeah, no, I'm not comfortable with flying saucers. It says the main character, and this shit freaks me out, but it's actually an acronym for.
It's an acronym. Well, he said it's an acronym. Yeah. And I just went and I thought about for two seconds and I went, not of planet earth.
Planet earth.
I remember the look on his face. He was, he was a little mad. I think.
Well, no, what you were seeing was the same look that I had, which is total shock at your level of intelligence. But it's just like, that was my stunning surprise.
That's what hurt me the most. was the stunning, the stunned look on everybody's face when I do something.
Well, we're going to have a stunned look at your guest when he comes.
Well, he's going to have a stunned look at Sean.
Sean, did you have a lunch?
He's going to have a stunned look at your, when he, when he heard your joke. for sure, because he tells jokes for a living.
Oh shit.
Here we go. And he doesn't just tell jokes. I, man, he, this guy tells jokes.
This son of a gun.
This son of a gun. And that's kind of the language that he would use too. Son of a gun.
Dax Shepard's coming back.
He, Dax, does love, son of a gun. He does. Um, this guy uses, I don't know, there's something about his, everything that he does, his delivery, his turn of phrase, the things he talks about, the way he does it. A lot of people call him the nicest guy in standup. I don't think of him as just the funniest dude I've seen in such a long time.
And I remember the first time I was, I heard about him was through our old friend, uh, Greg Garcia. Yeah. Yeah. And Greg was like, Greg reached out to me. He's like, you have to have this guy on, blah, blah, blah.
And I made some glib remark. He's like, you're going to regret it. I go, I think he's hilarious. Relax, Greg. And then, JB, you and I had the pleasure of meeting him really, really briefly.
I'm going to make you repeat the glib remark right in front of him.
We met him really briefly up at, uh, last year, up at Pebble Beach. And he's as nice as he, is funny. And it's all legit.
Oh, I love this guy.
He's so, so funny.
I love Ray Romano.
I love all, I love the Tennessee kid. I love the Tennessee kid. I love his new special Hello World on Amazon. He's about to go on tour in a new one. Guys, it's none other than the hilarious Nate Bregazzi.
Nate Bregazzi!
Hello. Even better. I was ready for Ray. I love Nate Bregazzi. Hey, I'll get Ray.
Oh, how great.
Good to see you. Nate, it's good to see you again.
Good to see you, Sean. Hey, just a little fun note. Never seen Shawshank, so.
Well, you're young. You're too young for it. You know, it's before your time.
Wait, wait. How old?
I'm 44. I should have.
That's pretty young.
You know what, Nate? I didn't see Shawshank until I was 45..
Oh, I'll do it next year.
Anyway, Nate, Bregazzi. Nate.
Nate, this is really nice.
Great to see you. We did meet. We did meet up at Pebble.
Yep.
Do you live in a nice house, or are you in a nice hotel room? Where are you?
In a hotel room. I'm in Syracuse. Okay.
Working?
I got a show in Syracuse. This is a... Can't make it here. Can't make it anywhere, you know?
That's what they say. They don't. That's what they say.
I like.
. Nate, I like that, Sean... You said, I'm in Syracuse. Sean goes, working? Nah.
Nah.
Just.
He's just hanging out with the Orange Men. It's vacation.
This is the vacations I can afford in Syracuse. He go, it's nice. It's nice. We took a bus up.
We spent on the hotel room. Yeah.
Yeah. Everything went to this.
Now, what kind of.
I have a family of 30 right off camera. They're just right there. They're... I said, if y'all talk during this, I will kill y'all.
When you are traveling around, you're doing these shows, what size is your group footprint? What's your posse size?
We have probably like 10 guys. I bring four openers. Actually, tonight, we got a surprise opener. He won't be here till later. Jimmy Fallon.
Fallon is coming to the show. Oh, that's great. He's going to jump on the bus.
Where do I know him? Tell me what we know him from.
That movie.
. Taxi. Pitch Fever. Taxi.
Fever Pit.
With Queen Latifah.
Yes, I remember Taxi.
Jimmy, right now, by the way, he's hearing this, he's sharpening his knife, hearing us say this.
Well, Nate, I have to say this. We developed the show together years ago, and you were very successful then, but to see you over the years, and then SNL, it's so exciting to finally be like, yes, this guy has been brilliant, has always been brilliant, and now more and more people get to see it.
Nate, you sell out arenas, like 20,000 at a clip, which is just unbelievable. On top of this, and I'm going to say this, and I've said it a bunch since it aired, when you were on SNL, your sketch, your George Washington sketch, is, to me, just in my opinion, the funniest SNL sketch I've seen in 15 years.
I totally agree with that.
Oh, wow, I'm going to look that up.
I totally agree with that.
It is remarkable. Now, your TV just went on, which tells me you're bored.
Yeah, I don't know why it turned off. The family's bored. Yeah.
The 30 men are getting itchy.
There's no one in here.
It's just you and Jim Benheim, right? Is that his name?
Yeah. Do you want me to turn it off, or does it matter?
No, no, just give me something to watch.
But you have, to echo what Sean's saying, you have just kind of, finally, thankfully, the rest of America is just like, understand what an awesome, awesome, hilarious dude you are. So how do you start? You're the Tennessee kid. You're from Old Hickory, Tennessee. Am I right about that?
Yes. Old Hickory. Yeah, Old Hickory.
Is it next to New Hickory? No.
New's a little bit farther.
Was it ever New Hickory?
No, we stayed old. He's got this great joke in his new special on Amazon Prime where he says, I'm from Old Hickory. It's where Andrew Jackson's from, and people are like, he wasn't a good guy. And Nate goes, well, we didn't know him that well, but we didn't know him at all. It's a hilarious joke.
But, Nate, talk to me about when you were a kid and stuff. Like, did you always into comedy? Did you watch SNL? Like, what were your inspirations?
That's what I was thinking. That's what I was getting to. How did you start?
I just got there fast.
It's, I grew up, my dad's a magician. What? And does comedy.
Mine too. Mine can disappear in the drop of a hat.
Sean Hayes, you are, talk real quick. Get out of here. Sorry, Nate.
Thanks, you guys.
Keep going.
No, I mean, I grew up around. that. I mean, so. that was like, you know, I was funny, but then also growing up around, you know, my dad being a magician.
You learned, patter.
Yeah. It just kind of leads you to it, I guess.
Wait, wait, wait. So, Nate, so you grew up, your dad's a magician. He obviously loved you. Sorry, Sean. And he, I mean, to the extent that he wanted to stick around.
I'm friends with Sean's dad.
Yeah. Oh, so you know where he is?
Yeah. Yeah. He's a pretty good dude. Yeah.
I don't know the whole backstory, but I know, I just know from what are hanging out.
He's got no tread left on his tires, but he's a good guy.
Yeah. He sends you a pin to his location.
So what was that like growing up with your dad being a magician? That's pretty rad.
An illusionist.
Yeah. Yeah. It was the best. It is, you know, I don't know if I even understood it. Like, I'm sure I think of it like my daughter and I'm sure your kids like they, it doesn't seem not normal.
Like, it just felt like, it's like, that's all I ever knew. And it wasn't until you got older that you're like, yeah, dude, nobody's dad's a magician.
Start saying you don't know when you're asked what your dad does.
Yeah.
So he would make a living.
I have. people do magic, like magicians. show me magic trick. I've just seen them all too. And I just, I'm just not a good, I'm not a good person to perform for.
Cause. I'm just like, all right, you know, it's like, is this your card? You're like, it's always my, it's always my card. It's always been my card.
Every time I see magic, every time I see magic, I fricking, love it. And I'll bet everybody listening loves it. Well, I mean, how can you not love when you see a magic trick? I mean, a good one. A good one.
But I, but I never think about it. I never, and I always make fun of it when I hear about it. It's like you hear about mimes, but you know what? You can't take your eyes off a mime or, or a magician. It's a, it, it, it gets a bad rap.
You can't take your eyes off a mime.
Yeah, that's the quote of the day.
Wait, so Nate, so your dad, Sean was going to ask this. So your dad made a living as, as a magician.
He did. He was a teacher too. Like, so he had a day job and then he would do that. And then we were always in Nashville. And, uh, so he's just always done it.
And I mean, he's, he's very successful. He's very known in the magic world. He comes with me and opens for me, uh, a lot on the road. And he will do these shows. and, you know, it's every little boy's dream.
Travel to your dad when you're 44 years old. So, uh, we got a little CPAP machine hooked up in a tour bus.
It's a good time. You got some ramps on the side of that stage?
Yeah, it's, I mean, we were, we had our bus parked out one time and I had my, it was my dad, my mom and my aunt. And I was like, people probably go by this tour bus and they're like, it's pretty rocking in there. And I mean, we got, it's lights off, quiet, just the roar of machines keeping everybody alive.
And the smell of liniment. Yeah.
Um, wait, so did you ever perform in the magic shows with your dad?
I did some. Yeah. I would help him with magic.
You ever get cut in half?
No, no, we didn't ever do that. We didn't, he never did that, go that far. He did Sleight of Hand. A lot of Sleight of Hand, and he does comedy.
Oh, it's my favorite. Yeah. So then, when you, what, what age were you when you were like, uh, actually kind of to what Jason, you kind of alluded to, but did you start just like being a wise ass on the, on the side of your dad's stage while he was doing magic? Like, is that how standup started for you?
Uh, I think it was just being funny. We would like, I remember seeing standup. It was just, it was just trying to, it was trying to make people laugh. I don't think I ever really made fun of anybody.
Right.
It was, but it was like, I would make fun of myself a lot, which is what I do now in my comedy show. It'd be like, you'd be doing stuff like that, making funny. He had, I mean, one time I've talked about this in a special on one of them, but it was like, he brought the Easter Bunny home. When I was like six, he was at the, he was at a mall doing a show and, uh, the Easter Bunny needed a ride home. And, uh, my dad goes, I'll give you a ride home.
If you swing by my house. And so I remember the Easter Bunny, we had. like, they, my parents had this old red Mazda stick shift, you know? And, uh, the Easter Bunny's head was bent to the side cause his head couldn't fit in the car. Sure.
So he was just, he was sitting like this. and then he got out and I met the Easter Bunny. And then my dad drove the Easter Bunny home.
So that's, so that started your, the Easter Bunny.
That was the, yeah, that was the trajectory. I go, if I can beat that guy, then maybe I can make it as.
Now, what, what, what was your mom's, um, uh, attitude on, on, uh, her husband's career?
My parents have been together since seventh grade and, uh, they, my mom's very funny. And, but she, she worked at a bank. I mean, she's just been, I mean, it's just stuff. There's like growing up, it's buying, you know, she has to go up. My dad would be like, go to the store.
I need you to buy 12 lemons. And he has to buy, for like his magic are a bunch of newspapers from that day. It's like a bunch of random and it's just normal conversation. You're just like, it's a Tuesday. You're just trying to grab some bread, milk, and 30 oranges.
And then you get on out of there.
And handkerchiefs in six colors.
He's got a lot of shows this week. Uh, stuff like that.
Wait, wait. So, so, Nate, so I want to kind of get again, this, this is where the worst interviewers on the planet. We were just voted worst ever interviewers. We nailed it of all time. Yeah.
Um, but I want to go back. Cause we, again, because you play these huge arenas and it's amazing. And I don't, I don't know if I've ever seen a comic so comfortable. You make it so intimate, even though you're playing a huge, there's something about it that makes it so personal, and you, and you, you're so organic.
You draw us in as opposed to ask.
And we're talking about authenticity. You're very authentic, but you, that feels like you, that when you started, you must've started in clubs, like in smaller venues, right? Like, like most comics. I imagine.
Oh yeah. So I moved to Chicago first for a couple of years and then I moved to New York, and I was in New York for the most for like eight and a half years. And so I did all the clubs and all the, like going up. every single night. I performed for one guy once.
Oh, my God. No way.
Like he wouldn't leave. We tried to get him to leave and he's like, nah, it's all right. And they're like, well, we don't think it's all right. It really wasn't about him. You're like, what's up?
I don't want to stand up in front of a guy.
Regularly up in front of four people, five, six. Like, I mean, six people was like, got a pretty good show going on. You know, you were, you were excited about six people. So you just get used to just being in these kind of like, you know, it takes a long time before you're in front of like an actual pain crowd.
That's good. But what, what does that do for you? What does that do for you? Like rhythm, wise, et cetera. When you're just doing six people like, well,
I had to learn to get people into my rhythm very quickly. So, since I'm talk slower and I was in the South and all this, I had to figure out cause I would follow like high energy acts and then I'd come up and I'm like, well, I got to come up with a joke or I got to say something. I just need you to hear my voice for a second. So you can go like, all right, readjust and be like now we're in this rhythm and then get into the first kind of, you know, come up with a good, like opening little thing or whatever, and just get rolling.
You know what always blows my mind about standups, though? Like how you can just walk around the stage for two hours and always have something to talk about. And like, how do you, it's, is it like a monologue you memorize? Or like, how can you just go up and speak funny for two hours straight?
Yeah, Sean, where do you get a load of her?
He's going to love show business. He's going to love it.
Two thirds of the planet is water.
There's a couple of poles.
You know what I mean? That always blows my mind. Obviously, you had material that you work on, but do you ever like, go up and you're like, oh my God, I don't know what subject to talk about next. Like the flow of it. Well, I don't go up.
I, yeah, I go up prepared. I mean, I can't do the other, I can't really do like crowd work and go up and it's very,
very freestyling, bro.
No,
I work it on it for months.
I know,
but do you ever switch it? Nate, do you ever switch the order based on the audience?
Oh yeah. This, this, this new hour. I've switched it a ton, but it's worked. Cause, now I'm opening on a joke that, uh, I have closed on. So it's like, it's great to be opening on a joke that I've actually had to have the energy and the rhythm of a closer.
And then you just move it up and now it's the front.
And you're doing those decisions on the fly.
Uh, yeah, you just fill it out. It's like, I mean, it's kind of like a song. Like I, like. I'm in love with standup right now. Like.
I love it so much. And it's, uh, I, the way I've looked at writing kind of is like, uh, it's a movie. So I'm the main character of this movie and I'm not, I'm telling the story. I'm not, there's a, there's a, you know, a reason for be saying all this stuff, and everything leads into the other thing. So you want to make it where people don't realize you're into another joke.
But in my head, I could be on like joke five, but you're trying to, I'm trying to make it where like, and then that's how you remember it. Cause the only way, you know, if you're talking about like riding a car and then you're like, my wife bought a car. Well, now that's the only thing I could go into.
Right. Right.
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Who was your main inspiration as far as developing that style of, of telling stories as opposed to jokes? Was it like a George Carlin or cause? I seem to remember he was, he was kind of like that too, right?
Yeah. Well, a big Cosby was one. Okay. You know, I see, but like that may, if you go like watch his old stuff, it was, it's very storytelling and all that kind of stuff. I'm a big Seinfeld fan.
Seinfeld was, uh, he was, I kind of think, cause I always looked at it. I tell stories, but in a joke form, like, so it's, I mean, I try to never be too far from the laugh. Cause the farther you are from a laugh, the bigger the laugh has to be. And I don't want to put that much pressure on a laugh. So if I can just kind of keep it going and let it build, it's like, you know, it doesn't, you're just not putting the weight of the world on this.
You're like, right. Cause, if they go, if you go silent too long, I mean, there's a point where you're like, well, this joke better be unreal.
Yeah.
Sean tried stand, Sean tried stand up and we won't get to his opening joke, but he was, he started so far from the laugh. And then he never got even to the same area code as the laugh.
You know what I mean?
Like he. never, he, never, he never had actual direct sight on the laugh. They never got a clean look at it.
Turned into a lecture.
And there's no way you're like, no, he's supposed to go. Well, he'll never get there now.
Even with a series of mirrors, he couldn't see the laugh.
It was so obscured.
That's how I drive around town. I only take right hand turns. But Nate, biggest bombing story. Like, did you just like, Oh my God, this is the worst.
Yeah. Yeah. There's a bunch. I mean, you blame it on, I had one, one time I thought it was the shirt I wore. And so I threw that shirt away.
Yeah. I had a button down shirt and I tucked it in. I've never done that since.
Yeah. I was like, it wasn't me. I was just like, couldn't have been the material.
Yeah. This fucking shirt is killing me.
What is this guy's deal? So,
I've done a cruise ship.
Say no more.
I won a, I won a contest. And your prize was, to set your career back five years and do cruises.
And so, I go out and I'm doing it. And you got to do like, you got to do a bunch of shows. So you do 30 clean, 30 dirty. I never had dirty. So it's like, I couldn't even, and then you would do one, another show.
So you needed honest, because sometimes these people would come back and watch multiple shows. So you needed to have, you know, two hours of material, or do crowd, or be able to mess with the crowd or something. And I remember we, we go up and you would do one show at the beginning of it. You do like five minutes each and it's kind of just like, it's in the big theater and you're kind of just letting the crowd know, we're comedians. We've got a show back here, blah, blah.
So the other guy, uh, just was great and knew how to like, he shined a fly shot on the crowd. Like, just knew how to like really play with the crowd.
Always works.
And he was like, come to my shows. Every show is different. And he, like, made a big announcement. Now they're all different. And then I went up and I said, my, I go, come to one.
It may be the other one, but the other one will be the same. I had to, like, I was like, do not come to all my shows. Most will be the same. I don't have enough material to have them all be different. So you can go to his shows.
They will be different. Mine will be. And then I went and did a show. and, uh, it was, I started it. And like, they, they didn't laugh.
And I was like, Oh, these people have been to every show and I'm not a crowd worker, you know? And I'm like, so what do you do, man? And I, you know, some guys like I'm an, he's an oil rigger in the ocean. It's actually a pretty crazy job. And I was like, that's cool.
And I just moved on.
It's like an insane,
people are saying crazy stuff. Like I'm a bank robber. That's neat, man. What about you, ma'am? I had nothing,
no riffing.
And then I had to ride in an elevator with these people. I'm in, I'm in the elevator in the ocean. You think it sounds like I made it and I'm just sitting there and had a hat on. And I just hear some guy just trashing me and I'm, my shoulder's touching him. And I just have to sit there.
Oh my God.
Um, do it. But they do separate them between clean and dirty. on a cruise ship. That's exclusive to a cruise ship.
Yeah. It would, you would just have a show. That's like. the kids can come to this show. Your family can come to this show.
And then you'd have like a night at, uh, you know, 11 PM is like adult only show. Yeah. They, you still can't be that dirty, but it's the idea of it is a little more, you know?
Yeah. You could have just dropped in a couple of F-bombs. Yeah.
Just randomly. I got a curse as I talk about parking. I'm like, you guys have a parallel parking, just know, like this guy's filthy. Uh, yeah. I didn't even have any.
I didn't even have, I had no dirty jokes. Like there's. no, I don't really, I don't talk about sex or, uh, right. Like political or like, there's nothing like, really like, that's kind of like this.
What about political sex? Will you ever touch political sex? Is that something that you'd be willing to do? Yeah, I will. Yeah.
If the right joke comes up. Sure.
Sure. I, you know, it is funny. It is remarkable how, uh, how clean your standup is. And a lot of people, it's, it's such a weird thing to have to say to, to point it out, but I guess it is worthy of pointing out. And it is to me, such a testament to how profoundly funny you are.
And honestly, and I, and I, I hope it is a badge of honor for you. It should be. Cause it, it really, you find ways to talk about stuff and you don't need to, to swear. I swear like a,
Cosby never, never cursed. Famously. Well,
let's, again, let's not try to, you know, look at, so let's not,
but no, let's go down the Avenue of Cosby and clean, you know,
this guy.
So, Nate, wait, did you, so at home, what's it like at home? So, like, is, is your, do you check out, would you run jokes by your wife? Does she okay them? Is she sick of hearing them? Like?
what is that dynamic at home?
I'll tell her. Yeah. I, like, she, knows about every joke that comes up. Cause that, that's something I had to learn too. When you make fun of your wife at the beginning is, uh, you have to show love.
Like you have to show, cause. people, cause I remember the beginning, the reaction would be like, well, why are you married? And so then you're like, well, that's not, that's not what I want. You don't need to have that reaction. So you have to then make fun of yourself, but with her, and you got to do it in a way that where they're like, they can tell that you do love your wife.
You love your family. And you, you know, and so it's just kind of like just making fun of each other. But yeah, I'll run by stuff.
But that comes across and you've got, you do that bit about the guy coming to replace the water heater in your other special. And you're, and you go, finally, the guy realizes you don't know what you're talking about. He thinks maybe this is a modern relationship. And he says, the guy said, is your husband here? And then you go, yeah, I think she's here somewhere.
It's so good. And it is, like you said, you're, you're self deprecating. You're the, you're the, the butt of the joke, which I think is always such a winning combo. Uh, you're not making fun of somebody. You're not having a laugh at somebody else's expense.
You're not putting somebody else down to make yourself funny, which is great.
Yeah. I just never liked it. Like I felt bad. I mean, I'll like make fun of my buddies and comics and stuff in the audience. You just, I just always felt, you know, it's like this person just trying to sit there.
They don't need it.
Yeah.
It'd be like big. What's your shirt? Your shirt's stupid. And then I got my shirt on, tucked in. Right?
Don't we all got stupid shirts?
Um, do you, do? you still live in Tennessee?
Yeah, I moved back. So I was, I was gone like 13 years and then, uh, we've been back for about, uh, nine.
Yeah. I hear it's beautiful down there.
Yeah. It's so good, right?
Yeah. I'm born and raised there. It's great. Uh, we have as much of a normal life as it can be. We're in a, live in a cul-de-sac, uh, house at the top.
So we had the leaders and, uh, we set the tone for it. Uh, I have a joke. I'll just, I can say it. It's my new act, Russ. And we do all in our court to say, we do all the right things.
Like if someone pulls down there, we're like, what are you doing down our street?
Any car?
We don't know. We just run out, but you better get out of our course. I'm just furious if they come down there.
Um, brothers and sisters growing up?
I have a younger brother and a younger sister.
Oh, yeah. So you're the oldest of the three. I am. And do they, do they, are they finding you funny all the time? Or like, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. My brother's like three years younger than me. My sister's about 10.. I've talked about her in a special and, uh, she, she works for me now too.
So that's fine. I mean, get yelled at by her. Uh, I mean, you got your whole family.
You got your sisters working for you. And then you're on tour with your mom and dad and your aunt. And, uh,
that's cool.
It's pretty rad.
Do you, I don't think you've said this, but you, sorry. Do you have kids?
Yeah. I have an 11 year old daughter.
Why are you so nervous to ask him that?
By the way,
he's married. He said he's not available.
What are the kids ages?
I did say before, don't ask about if I have kids.
Oh,
all right. I guess. Okay. Uh, yeah. Now I have one, an 11 year old daughter.
Oh,
that's great.
11 year old daughter. And what does it seem like she's going to want to do with her life? Does she want to,
she loves horses right now. I don't know why.
that sounds expensive. That's expensive.
It is. I don't, I don't even know where no one, we don't come from horse stuff,
you know, you're not, you're not horse people.
No, there's never horse people, but, uh, she loves horses. So right now she's kind of doing that stuff, but she's very creative, very funny. And she, you know, uh, will get me and my wife laughing a lot, you know, and like, I think I got to teach her where to where the joke, you got to be like, all right, well, you gotta be serious.
Yeah. Isn't that funny? It's like, there's, there's, there's the little, there's the age. when they learn sarcasm, they learn humor and, but they don't yet know when to stop the joke. They don't know when to do the joke.
Um, but you, you don't want to shame them because you don't want to kill their spirit. Or their sense of humor. So you just got to kind of grin and bear with so many things in their life. It's so incredible watching kids learn things that we forgot, that we learned, you know, like, it's amazing. You know, nothing until you learn it.
She can make fun of her friends. recently. And like, I think, but then they all got like, it was like, they did not like it. And I was like, and it was funny. I forget what it was, but it was like, it was something funny, but you're like, all right, you got to understand.
You're like, you gotta, some people will be able to handle it. Like, you know, she just is all about the joke. Cause it's obviously just our, you know, her grandfather's a magician, a comedian. Like, so it's, it's a lot of joking.
I think, yeah, I think that making fun of your friends is, is not a good path to go down. It's not, um,
unless it's Sean. Successful. Unless it's Sean. I mean, it's such a big button to hit.
No, I thought we were talking about friends. Yeah, Sean. Oh,
right.
Yeah.
I feel warm inside.
Where's that? What's after Syracuse? Where do you go next?
Uh, Albany.
So we started in New York.
Of course. Yeah. And what, and just fucks connected to you? Like, what are you doing, dude?
Yeah, this is the route. I know we started. last night. We were in Philly at the far, like it was where the, uh, the Sixers play.
No way.
Big thing.
And then it, then it goes Syracuse and then it'll go Albany. And then that's, these are the two that Fallon wanted to come to was Syracuse and Albany.
Yeah, of course. That's a big, those are big venues.
I think he's from up here. Yeah.
Uh, he is. He's from upstate New York. What, what are you, what, what, what arena or place are you playing tonight in Syracuse?
The, you know, the arena.
The carrier dome probably, right? Is that what it is?
No, no. no, I've been to a game there.
I've been to a basketball game there. You could feel it. Basketball courts set up. It's your, people buy tickets that are like, I don't think they can see the court. Right.
They're sitting like behind the court.
Would there be a crowd that's just too big for, for a comedy show where it's just like, it's, it, it needs to be a little bit more intimate. Like 20,000 people is like right at the max. Maybe or, or no. Yeah.
I mean, it's all about how we feel. We have, like, you know, the rain is, we have these big screens. Uh, we have, I've put more speakers up so everybody can hear it everywhere. uh, you really do try to make it intimate. I mean, you can tell everybody gets real quiet.
I mean, that's the cool, it's one of the coolest things is when you're telling a joke and you're, this, many people are quiet. Yeah. You know, and this guy, and they're just, I mean, you could, I could yell with no microphone and the top person could hear me. is it gets that quiet.
Uh, so cool.
So yeah, I mean, I would imagine if you did a stadium, you know, I could see it getting a little Louie, but I mean, we're in the middle too of an arena. So I'm, it makes it a lot, I'm a lot closer to everybody. Uh,
do a hundred, thou, do a Honda. Come on,
do the big,
do the big house.
If you ever had a moment where you kind of scare yourself a little bit by thinking about all the eyes that are looking at you and that they're not talking, and that it is silent and that you might not be doing well and you can't leave for another 45 minutes. Are you scared?
Are you scared of the eyes?
Yeah. I mean, if you ever had a panic attack on a stage and know that you can't, you can't leave for another hour.
Uh, yeah. I mean, you've done it so long, now that you're,
it's just like, it's happened to me. I mean, yeah,
yeah. I, I mean, I've done it. now. It's like, yeah. I mean, you, you think about it.
I had an SNL like a little bit when I did the monologue, I was more nervous with the monologue. Cause it's like stand up and you're like, I'm supposed to be good and at this. And, and then you got to kind of deliver the jokes into the camera, but there's the crowd. And so like, it was very weird to deliver jokes to kind of a spot where no one's at.
Right. And you're right on the heels of, of sitting, of standing back behind that flat, behind the band, right? That little, narrow little plank, and the whole crowd is silent and they're counting down to that live moment. To America. Like it becomes really tangible.
Like you're not just live in front of, you know, you know, crowd it, it's beaming across, you know, the planet. Like it's real tangible there. Yeah.
You're like, I could say anything right now, and they're going to hear it right now. Cause it's live, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Remember when I used to remember like 20 jokes when I was, when I was a kid, I used to love them. And now I can only remember like one or two, but from back then. No, they're not that great. Do you have any jokes?
You want to hear a guy tell a joke inside out? Go ahead.
I do get a little tripped up. Do you have a joke from when you were a kid that, that you'll never forget? You may not use it in your act, but it's just like a, just a classic. That was one of your favorites.
Uh, yeah, I didn't use it in my act to go.
You say you do?
I hang, no, I didn't hang on to your, like. I kept it. I still read a joke book when I was five and, uh, I'm closing on it.
it's, I had, I remember the joke. It was, I said there was a, it was a joke book or something. And there was, uh, a guy goes, uh, waiter, there's a spider or there's a fly in my soup. And then the waiter goes, well, don't worry. The spider on your bread, we'll get it.
It was a picture of a spider bed. And so my dad always brings it. I remember that joke. And then my dad brought it up. Cause I would like, I was explaining why the joke was funny to him.
And like, kind of going through it. Like, here's why this is funny, you know? So that, that, that one was the first one, but I let it go.
Do you guys have jokes from your, from when you were a kid, that you, you'll never forget? one joke that's appropriate to tell? Is there one like a go-to that you remember?
I had a joke book when I was really little. It was,
you have a joke book now, but anyway, keep going.
It was, it's not funny. It's, it was funny when I was like six years old. It's like, where do dead people go in your house? And it, it was the living room.
I have one, which is like, people always say that ballet is really hard to do. And so I always say, just don't do it.
Yeah. Oh, see, Nate laughed.
That was Sean's opening joke when he did stand up.
And what is the, this would probably be interesting for folks, including me. Um, what are the, how do you do the economics of being a standup? I'm assuming you have to bear all the costs of the trucks and the infrastructure and all that stuff. And then you get to keep whatever you don't spend on what it costs to put the show up. Right.
And you're making your money based on ticket sales and merchandise, perhaps full stop.
Yeah. Yeah. We don't, I mean, merch is not, merch is not the biggest thing in standup. Uh, why? Yeah.
I don't know. I mean, we've had it, we've done it at shows and it's just, it does. It's not like a concert, or people don't, like. I was saying, like standup. still, kind of, it's kind of a newer thing.
Like, like Cosby's, like one of the first, he's still alive. And, like, you know, like he knew Lenny Bruce.
Don't, you, gotta, I'm, if I could give you one piece of advice,
if we could just lose the Cosby references,
well,
if we could get it down to single digits, it would be great.
Or, you know what? I'm going to just,
I'm going to send you a couple of articles.
Harvey Weinstein and I once set up an LLC, but, but, but so, so you've got this, you've got this huge apparatus. Yeah. Apparatus. Right. Like, but you know,
you know, you could do it without it.
You get like a deal. So you have promoters and then the, yeah, you are, I think the, it's like the promoters, the one that's putting the money for, like the, the renting of the venue. Right. And then I'm paying, then it comes out of mine, the show budget of the speakers and the, all that stuff. And so you can, you can have it go as low or as big as you want it to go.
Who's your, who's your manager? Who are your peeps?
Brillstein.
They're the,
Brillstein and UTA.
Yeah.
We'll be right back.
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Alright, back to the show.
By the way, backing way up to the beginning of this interview, what is Bargatze? What is the nationality of Bargatze? Oh, it is?
First of all, don't spit it out like that.
What is Bargatze?
What the fuck is. Hayes, son of a bitch? What the fuck is wrong.
with you?
Sorry, Nate.
Jesus, fucking Christ. By the way,
what the fuck is Bargatze?
I've just never heard.
of it.
This has really been a bee in my bonnet for a minute.
How do you even spell that?
I know, I can't even begin to spell it. I knew that, but I forgot that I knew that.
Italian, wow. I think we say it wrong. as a family too. I think it's supposed to be Bargatze and we say Bargatze. Like, it's just, we've southerned it up.
Oh, I say Bargatze.
Yeah, I think a lot of people would. Don't people say Bargatze? When I lived in New York, they would always be like Bargatze because it's like Italian and I was like, you know.
Bargatze.
I was like, I don't like tomatoes.
Do you have family in Italy?
I don't.
You don't know, yeah?
I think we've all agreed to kind of go. We had a family reunion once and we had family come over from Italy and we got Kentucky Fried Chicken for them. at the end. I think it was like from that moment, was just kind of like, all right, y'all have a good life. We did it.
We're going to do our thing. And we just kind of got on our separate ways.
Nate, what do you like to do in your free time? And you've got a lot of time, like on a bus, or you're touring, or on the plane or whatever. What do you watch? What are the things? Are you a sports guy?
Do you watch other stand-ups?
Is it Candy Crush? How are you occupying your minutes?
Yeah, I'm a big sports guy. So I watch a lot of golf. Like any sports. Golf, UFC. I watch a lot of UFC.
Oh, you do?
Yeah, I'm a big fan of UFC. UFC.
I wanted to peg that. I wanted to peg you for being a big fan.
It's just the most,
the honesty of it. Like Dana White just in the fighters, they can say whatever they want. And so there's no, you know like when Tom Brady is he going to retire or not retire? It's like it's all kind of a game and a show. And UFC kind of really is like, we just got a dude that just says, I want to fight this guy.
Right.
And then it just gets to it. And you're, I don't know, I kind of like,
I love it. But there's no romance. to that too, though, right?
There's the build up to it, and then they get in the, you know, then they don't like each other, and then you're, you know, and then you go in there and watch them fight. It's not just watching a street fight. You're watching two professionals that have to like fill each other out.
So you watch UFC, you watch golf, you like to play golf. You play golf when you're on the road?
Some. It gets hard, but it's because of the shows and stuff. But yeah, I'll play some on the road.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's kind of it. I mean, I don't know. It's like you're just running around, got a lot of stuff, a lot of hanging out. Like the road is the most fun, because it's just like a bunch of dudes.
and you know, this morning we went in Syracuse, we're in Syracuse in this place as a hot and cold plunge thing. Sure.
Well loved.
So I've never done it, and then so, but they let us come in. So like we woke up and did that.
Wait, who is Boo Weekly? I saw something.
Oh yeah. What is that? So I, this is another, I told it on SNL, I tell it in my act too. But Boo Weekly, because I have a joke about fighting a orangutan at a county fair. Okay.
And where I read the story was there's a golfer named Boo Weekly, and when he read, he said when he was 15, he got in, he goes to this county fair. He's from like Georgia, like Southern Georgia. It's like the 80s, you know, and there, you could pay $5 to fight an orangutan. An orangutan would be in a boxing ring with boxing gloves. And so, dudes would pay $5 to fight him and,
That's hysterical.
Yeah. And then guys would get in there and this orangutan would just knock people out.
Okay.
Because when I say this, I tell the whole story in my act, but I say because we didn't have the internet to look up. how strong is an orangutan. You have, it was all word of mouth back then. So, you know, you had to meet a guy that just fought an orangutan. And he's like, he's stronger than you think.
You know, you're like, but the arms are so skinny. You're like, I know, that's what I thought as well.
And the reach.
It's the reach, it's the jabs.
It's the feet. Look at his feet. His feet's bigger than you. Yeah, that strength comes from somewhere.
And they'll rip your face off too, if they want.
Well, that's what Boo Weeky said. He goes, that's not written everywhere back in 1982, when you're fighting an orangutan. The guy that does this doesn't go, you sign a waiver.
That is sure.
Yeah. You don't realize until afterwards, like, that's why he has gloves on. If this thing, if it gets the gloves off, there's a chance it will rip your head off. So, but, you know, what are you gonna do? Ride the scrambler again?
Yeah. Yeah.
That's really funny. I wonder if that's still in existence anywhere in the country. I bet there's still a place.
You know, PETA, I think PETA got a hold of a lot of this.
Sure.
They knocked those things down.
And that one, they were like, you can't do that. We're like, all right. We thought they liked it. I'm glad you just had to tell us and we got rid of it. Fair enough.
Nate, what are you gonna do today before the show?
Tell them you're busy.
Uh, it was this. and then, uh, yeah, it was just this. I don't have any, like, I gotta re-. I'm messing up some of the order a little bit, so I'll do that a little and then, uh, we'll just hang out and be at the venue, if there's, we do try to shoot basketball like some of these arenas. if they have a basketball goal somewhere, we'll try to, like, mess around, shoot basketball and just, kind of, you know, do whatever until.
showtime. That's nice.
And then you're going, and then you're going on tour, you got a new special, you're shooting a new special.
In Phoenix, uh, yeah.
You love Phoenix. You love, you've taught, you did another, you did your last special in Phoenix, right?
I did my last special there, and this one's going to be in the Footprint Center where the Suns play, so it's, uh, it's, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, I mean, it just kind of works out like touring wise, like you just hit these towns like every two years or so, and so it's just kind of like,
And your family goes with you, or do they stay home?
They do some, yeah, yeah, we went to Europe, like they came to Europe, they come to the, you know, they're not here in Syracuse or Albany, but they, if they're, I'm doing the Boston Garden, they're going to come to Boston.
Tell them to join you out in Phoenix for some of the, the, uh, best pizza in the world as voted by the, the, the voters. By the people. At Chris Bianco's.
At Chris Bianco's Pizza.
Nate, can you do, I saw you do this one thing a long time ago, you don't have to do it. if you're like, I gotta go. But one of the funniest things I ever saw you do.
Sorry, dude.
You want me to stand up and do my act?
Do you mind? I mean,
can you just show us your tits real quick and then, and then go to show.
Would you mind doing it topless?
Sorry, show us your tits.
No, one of the funniest things was I, it was a story about your meeting your wife's ex-boyfriend.
Yeah, on the boat? Yeah, yeah, I went, yeah, we went, I gotta remember it, but we went to, it happened, we're on the lake, Old Hickory Lake.
Is that true?
Yeah, and we're in, uh, we're like in the water, and then it's, uh, my wife's ex-boyfriend was on a, another boat. Right. And I didn't see him, and she pointed it out, like there's no reason to point it out, but she pointed it out. so then, yeah, like all I can think of now, like, I'm, I'm thinking about him, like, and then I, I look at her and she's looking at him, and I feel like she's looking at him to see what her life would be like if she didn't marry me. Yeah.
And I was looking at him to see what my life would be like if I didn't marry her. Uh, so, we're both putting a lot of pressure on this guy. Yeah. And then my buddy told me, he's like, you should go fight him. And I was like, wait, I gotta, like he's on a boat, like I gotta, I gotta swim over to that fight.
Have you ever tried climbing a boat from the water? It's not, it's not graceful, it's not easy. You don't come in with power. I would need his help to start the fight.
Right, right.
I think that was, yeah, that was, yeah.
It's so funny. But I just, I mean, we can all relate to meeting exes, you know, our current exes.
That's never good.
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