
2024-06-17 01:03:00
Join Seth Meyers as he sits down with fellow SNL alum and comedy-music sensations The Lonely Island (Andy Samberg, Akiva Schaffer, and Jorma Taccone) to discuss their wildly popular and groundbreaking series of SNL Digital Shorts that aired on Saturday Night Live beginning in 2005. Episode by episode they'll discuss how each short was created, what the response to it was at the time, and what impact, if any, it still has today. Aided by Seth, the guys will relive their time at SNL and reminisce on the nearly 50-year-old show from a time when putting short comedy sketches on the internet was so novel that they maybe even helped launch YouTube to do it. Along the way they'll talk all things SNL from guests, fellow cast members, and favorite live sketches including many that never aired.
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he's milking the Hot Rod convos. Take it away, Seth.
It's the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast.
I'm not picking up the pace at all. Yeah. Basically, Kevin figures out he can edit this together, make a full film. You do a screening of the film. Rod thinks it's going to be a kick-ass stuntman movie.
Everybody's going to be in awe of him. Yeah. Instead, everybody starts laughing because they're shitty stunts, and they all go wrong. Yes. There's a really nice move where Rod wants it to stop, goes up into the projectionist booth, throws basically the, what would you call it?
It's like a video projector.
A video projector out the window. Yeah. Comes down, gets in a fight with Kevin. Cops show up. Feel like it's weird that the cops showed up, but what turns out, what happened, is you'd thrown the projector out the window and gone through the window of a guy's car.
Right. Yeah. And then you had to give, you'd raised up to five grand at that point. You have to give that all back. Now.
you got no money.
Right. Yeah. Lowest moment. Classic.
Clean. Classic.
Dark night of the soul.
Dark night of the soul. Also, you then, post-stuntman, are a dork.
Yeah. He's decided, he's a square now.
You're a square now.
It's his idea of being an adult. He gives up on his dream. Right.
It was really funny because it reminded me how you had to wear a wig in the show when you played a dork because your hair was so-.
Unwieldy.
Like this was your real hair being dork hair was not, it was something else.
Yeah. It's somewhere in between.
It's weird. Yeah. But it's super fun to look at, but it just doesn't quite-.
Well, because you didn't get a haircut. You just combed it.
Correct. Well, because we were shooting out of order.
Yeah. Like Andy's hair then was not meant to be parted. And it's a very, it's a very good look. You're wearing also the worst khakis I've ever seen. Yeah.
They're perfect. They're perfect. Because they're like half sweatpants, half khakis. They're exactly what Rahat would have.
Yeah. It was a bad outfit. We were laughing at the fitting.
Yeah.
Like, oh yeah, this is bad.
Why? Does it have an elastic waistband?
Yeah, it does. I feel like-.
Oh, that's really good.
It's also just like this person who is not an actual adult's idea of what being a grown-up would be.
Yeah.
He no longer collects bugs.
Perfect. Again, right into the talents of Danny and Bill. Bill starts crying pretty hard when he gets the news.
Yeah.
Danny says, who am I going to build ramps for?
Yeah. Twice. He goes to anger. Twice. Yeah.
Rico goes to anger. And yeah, they're different characters.
And then Bill, in this really nice, hater-esque acting move, he stops crying and then just gives you a very sweet nod and goes on his way.
Right. Yes. And somehow sells it as like natural, because he's just a machine.
Yeah.
Wait, can I go back before you- Yeah. There was a line that got cut.
Oh, you're going to talk about this? I was wondering if you were going to talk about it.
Oh, we have to talk about it. Don't you think?
Yes. I'm fully-.
There was a line between Rahat and Kevin-.
We were very sad to lose this one.
Right before the screening starts. And there's still some of it in there where he's like, I can't believe you did it. We're going to pull it off. And Kevin's like, I know, Rahat, it's looking good or whatever. And Rahat's like, ah, how did it go?
He was like, I'm so excited. Why don't you whip out that little baby weenie of yours and let me suck it.
What? Yeah. Kevin's like, what? He's like, I don't know. I'm just so excited.
Don't tell anyone. I said that. And then he runs away.
I don't know. It's kind of a weird joke, right? Yeah. Exactly.
It's a joke. I'm just so excited.
Yeah. That's what it was. It's weird.
I mean, I'm joking around. Yeah. Why don't you whip out that little baby weenie of yours and let me suck it.
What? I'm joking around.
Did you shoot it?
Yeah. Oh yeah. We almost put it in.
You could probably YouTube Hot Rod Delete Scenes and they're beeped.
Beeped.
Because it would have made the DVD-.
Rated R.
Extra features unrated. Yeah.
We were told it was maybe beyond R.
And we were like, what? That's so fucked up. That's so like, I can't say that I would suck a dick. And they're like, no, you say, baby weiner.
Your brother. Your brother.
Well, yeah. And I was like, oh wait. They're taking that literally? They're like, yeah, they're thinking it's the wiener of a baby child. And I was like, but he's clearly an.
adult. And incest.
Yeah. I still think they were wrong and that it's a good joke. But I will also say, there were definitely some people at the test screenings that did not like it.
When I'm showing it to my children, I'm grateful it's not in there. Just have a consistent, safe space for the film. But I will say, Tim Robinson, I don't know who he was talking about, but some skater, cool dude, he was skating with this like a month or two ago. He's like, I was skating with this dude. He's like a rad skater guy.
And he told me he was at a test screening once for Hot Rod and he heard the funniest joke of his whole life. And then he was so sad it wasn't in the movie. And then he said it was something about like Yorma having a baby wiener or something. And I was like, oh, I know the joke. So to this cool skater dude who was probably 20 when he saw it, or 15 or something.
It was the funniest joke he had ever seen in a movie.
Definitely.
I will say it was at that stage of getting to know your character for that long. And then having him say that was pretty mind blowing.
But he's not, he doesn't really mean it. He's just so excited.
It's a figure of speech to him.
Yeah. He gets carried away with enthusiasm because everything is about to go his way. That's why it makes me laugh.
I know. I'm joking around. Oh, heads up. And then you move on and the screening starts.
By the way, a guy in his forties explaining how he saw a cut line from a test screening and how mad he was, it wasn't a movie, feels like, I think you should leave scene. Like the guy at the party who starts talking about it and then realize, and then he starts explaining, like Andy, why it's actually okay.
Tim might've made it up that that happened. Yeah. But by the way, there's one of those in every studio comedy, at least. Like, did we talk about this on this already? That we went and saw an early screening of Talladega Nights and they cut out our favorite thing.
What was that?
There's a scene where it's like, it gets to the final race. And before it starts, they're like, the broadcast is happening, the announcers. And they're like, now we're going to go live to our reporter in the stands. And he's like, you guys, I'm here with country legend, Kenny Rogers. And it just pans over and it's this dude who's definitely not Kenny Rogers.
And they just talk for a while and it's very casual. And then it just goes back and it's back to you guys. And they're like, okay, I'm pretty sure that wasn't Kenny Rogers, but I will say at that screening, it was like a friends and family screening. We were laughing uncontrollably loud and the rest of the theater wasn't. So I'm not surprised it got cut.
But I also am like, sometimes you got to know you have one for like, just people who are obsessed with comedy. And do you sacrifice everyone else for that one joke?
Well, but to be fair, Howrad still has maybe like five jokes that are strictly just for.
us.
Yeah, sure. Yeah. Well, I mean, in that sense, I'm like, we should have kept it.
It's the cost benefit analysis of keeping Baby Wiener.
It was just that it would have been a rated R. Yeah. But it's hard to imagine the movie making less money.
That's true.
Well, we'll get there.
Because you were keeping it PG for box office reasons.
But I will say this. Longevity wise, there are a lot of kids, as we've said, that do really love Howrad. So in that sense, it is probably good. Like you've said, he wouldn't want that in there when he's showing his kids. So it was probably the right call.
But the movie is sweet.
And so there's no need to.
I would just argue that that joke is also sweet.
Yeah, I would, too.
I think he's just loving on his bro. Yeah, his brother.
Every time you circle back.
It's like sweet. He loves him.
Yeah. I like when you circle back, make a case for it. And then I'm like, yeah. And then you say the line again.
And I'm like, oh, no.
Yeah, but then he clarifies. But it's called out, too. I'm just joking around. And Kevin does say that's kind of a weird thing to say.
There's so many weird jokes. Like Ancestors. Protect Me is is almost equally weird.
Right. Kind of like I mean, but, you know, are we that square?
In Europe, they would have let you do it.
Exactly.
Europe, Hot Rod, it's in. Then we have the quick. I think, if memory serves, I wrote Too Legit To Quit.
Yeah, that was yours. Yeah, we love that one.
Yeah. That joke cost thirty five thousand dollars.
How much it cost? Thirty five. Wow. Because we just stole the lyrics from Too Legit To Quit. Well, Keev had money to burn.
But I forgot. After that very earnest line, you walk in the street and get hit by a van. Yeah, it's really, it's a great stuff. I mean, it's great. Made me laugh really hard.
Oh, my God. I forgot about the movie I've seen a bunch of times. Love that. Then we meet Chris Parnell. Yeah.
And just what a delightful bit of plotting. Chris Parnell runs an AM radio station and they have bought the rights to the jump because he's trying. It's really funny in this day and age where now TV is like up against the same thing. He's trying to keep AM radio alive. Right.
And he explains how much he hates. it's TV and FM radio. Right. Like that's who he's raging against.
Yeah. He does not like FM radio.
He's a few steps behind.
By the way, they're cutting AM radio out of cars now, guys.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's a stunt. The only way to enjoy a stunt is to see it. Yeah.
But he has the right. He bought the exclusive rights. I mean, it's really it's chef's kiss. good. Then the best is, he explains why he hates it.
And then he lifts up his, and he's a very sort of Parnelli AM radio host, pulls up his shirt. He has a basically, you did not call it this, but it's very clear. It's a Calvin tattoo. Yeah. Where Calvin, instead of just peeing on a sort of car that maybe someone doesn't like, is peeing on both a radio and a television set.
And this is the line that I guess you would have. maybe an issue with the kids. Keith, this is your line. Do you want to explain why there are two divergent streams of urine?
Oh, well, he doesn't say semen, by the way, it's clean. He says, I'd like to think he had sex the night before. And a little bit of residue is blocking his urethra, causing or allowing the urine to flow in two separate directions, something like that, because it's on the FM radio and on the TV, right?
I believe it lead in is implausible. I know, but I like to imagine. Yes, that he had sex the night before.
Also, then you see it up here is the AM radio, and the AM radio is floating above the tattoo on a magic carpet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, safe and sound.
All right. We had a stretch of time where we really loved calling out Calvin pissing on stuff, as I think a lot of people in comedy did.
Yeah, well, I feel like that's fallen out of favor with truck drivers. Yes, it used to be on the back windshield of many a car and many a truck.
Yeah. Calvin pissing on stuff. We would put that into things.
We wrote Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes, for those of you who don't know.
But I remember this being a Keeve special.
I'll say that there was this scene, which I could barely keep it together for. And then, post-riot, I also see me laughing with Danny having still the television.
I missed one thing. before we get to riot, which is one of my favorite scenes. Can I just go back? Yeah, yeah, sure. Good.
I'll just say, Cool Beans is another real Lonely Island flourish. Yeah, I've been seen. And I remember you were editing the movie in New York, Keeve. Yeah. And you and your arm were there.
And you guys had been fighting all afternoon about an edit in Cool Beans. And you showed me each version. And I laughed so hard because I couldn't tell the difference.
That's right. That sounds right.
And it was just so funny to me, because I remember saying either the audience is in for Cool Beans or they're out.
Yes, that's correct.
But there's no tiny edit like I would have been in.
But you added an extra three frames there.
That was proven by the test screenings, because it was both the highest negative and highest positive.
Well, at first, though, it was just a negative. With the original scene was imagined as just us saying it back and forth.
in different weird ways before there was the music added.
Right. And originally it was just Cool Beans. Yeah, Cool Beans. Just twice, like super earnest. And that was the joke.
And then, either during writing or on set, we decided to try to get it a whole bunch of different ways in case we wanted to make it go longer. And then we cut together the really long version and it was dying at test screenings. And then Keeve was like, I think we just need to lose this scene. And I believe it was me or me and you, Yarm.
I think it was you. I think it was you that was like, hey,
let's take all this footage into the other room. There's another editing bay at where we were cutting. And I asked you to make the beat.
We edited it with the footage in the other room, because I feel like we were also down on it.
We were like, let's try this crazy ass move with it, because otherwise we're going to have to cut it. And we did it and it was making us laugh. And we were like, yeah, maybe. And we brought it back in and Keeve was like, it's funny, but I don't think it is going to work. We were like, all right, we have one last test screening, so let's just put it in and see.
And if not, we'll just cut it down to the studs. And it destroyed.
Yeah, it did great. We were like, what the fuck?
It was like the highest rated scene in the movie. And we thought it was the most lost of causes.
It's a real lesson. Yeah.
And fun little addendum on the soundtrack, which I think you can now listen to on Spotify. But there is a Cool Beans remix that has B-Legit.
Bay Area Rapper. Yeah, he crushes it. What's the first line, Jorm?
Cool beans in the place, 40 cal in my waist. I pointed at your face, if you really want to take.
Yeah, we just told him. But you told him the direction was like, just do a hard.
Yeah, just like be as gangster as possible.
Oh, yeah. And he did. Got that Bay in.
We've mentioned this wonderful cast. We've not mentioned Will Arnett, who is perfect. And really, really funny, as the sleazy boyfriend, Jonathan, who is incredibly unlikable from the first time he shows up. And then each successive time we see him, you do not pull off the gas, letting her know.
You know, he's truly the worst possible boyfriend.
But at one point, Rod calls him to say the jumps back on and he's reading Barely Legal,
which is also just insane. that I can't imagine. Is that still Barely Legal, is so horrific. Like it could be called. You're almost a pedophile.
We wanted him to be a bad option.
Yeah. You know, he's such a bad. And it's really funny because it again plays off the trope of, oh, God, they were so close. She has a boyfriend. And you feel like you want to slowly show the audience.
Yes. And you want to show the audience he's not right for her throughout the entire shoot.
We were like, she should not be with either of these guys.
I know you're awful.
Bad options.
I mean, we miss the scene where you're just literally hammering a engine in your garage and she walks in and says she'll join the crew. And you say there's an initiation. And obviously there isn't. And when she says she's in, you just pour your drink on her foot. Like you're not good.
No, but he sucks. Yeah. And it's really funny reading Barely Legal. I forgot that was awful.
God, I forgot that, too. By the way, Arnett, that was Arrested Development time. And we were like fucking obsessed with Arnett. There still are. We love him.
But like we didn't know him yet. And we were like, Jesus Christ, we have to get Will for this part. We wrote it like for him, towards him. And luckily he was down. And he's Canadian.
Yeah. So we didn't have to get him like a work permit.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He was happy to go back to the motherland. He actually was doing us a huge favor by doing it.
Yeah. Now we have another montage, and this is just a music montage. And there's a really nice moment. You're doing Tai Chi on the beach. We've established Tai Chi earlier.
Yeah. And you're very oily, which I think is again, we've seen this before. Yes. In Rocky movies, where guys are working out and it seems like they're glistening in a way that body does not naturally glisten. Yeah.
And then we see, as we widen out, that just a sort of random guy is applying oil to you while you're doing your Tai Chi.
You know, like a guy that might be, like a guy that might work on the trains, or something, kind of an elderly fella.
Yeah, he looks sort of like maybe a local fisherman or something who just wandered over. It's very funny.
But it was a nod to Roadhouse, right? Roadhouse, yeah. Like a neighbor who, like, basically dressed like that.
There's a shot in Roadhouse when he's doing his Tai Chi where a neighbor sees him. Or is that our movie?
I don't know if he sees him. Got it. But in our minds, he saw him. And then we added the oiling him up. The oiling him up.
Anyway. And now Roadhouse, Jorma, you later direct a film called MacGruber, which borrows a great deal from Roadhouse.
Yeah, we loved Roadhouse. And that's a touchstone film.
And depending when this comes out, we're talking about the original Roadhouse, not the Gyllenhaal one.
Right, because there's going to be a new Roadhouse.
Yeah. Which better be funny.
So we can steal more from it.
It better inspire the next generation of hot rod tours.
He better be ripping throats.
So you, then, again, really fun trope. You guys are off. You're like walking down the street. Rod's walking down the street one by one, getting joined by the crew. Now it's the four of you.
Yeah, it's the morning of the big jump. So it's morning and they're on their way.
Big John Farnham song starts.
Neighbors at first noticing. Then kids showing up behind you has a very sort of inspirational. But now more people are joining. You guys seem a little. This isn't what you expected.
Strangers to be joining behind you. Yeah. Now strangers are also singing along with the song. Right. That's weird.
It's playing. So now it's very weird. And we keep again, none of them think it's weird. But we see on the faces of the four of you.
Yeah, we're confused.
But you're happily confused. You're like, whoa, whoa, wow. I guess the town is. the town is rallying.
Something magical is afoot.
Yeah. But you were hinting to the audience. This is not what we expect when we were walking down the street. Then a dude just picks up a trash can, throws it through the window of a storefront and everybody just starts looting.
Yeah. Yeah. Let's tear this place apart.
And it becomes like a car gets flipped. Dude sets one on fire.
Music continues.
Music continues.
Same positive.
Two people dump a dude out of a wheelchair. Yeah. It's just incredibly gnarly. Yeah. You guys take off running.
That's Lauren's child, Henry Michaels. Is it really? He's the kid who runs up and steals like, hey, free wheelchair.
Yeah. Two people dump a guy out just for the purposes of dumping him out. But then another kid's like, hey, free wheelchair. The best, though, and I think this is what you're alluding to, Joram, is then the four of you sort of run off.
Into safety.
And you're now at the location of the jump. And you talk about how crazy it was. And it's the best because Danny McBride's Rico is holding a TV. he's definitely just stolen.
So he runs up, not holding it.
You guys notice it. And he just keeps talking about how crazy it was. And no, it's never mentioned.
No, it's like there was no time to do anything, but just try to make sure you're safe and get out of there.
And it really is. Again, I know I keep saying it's such a wonderful, really nice Danny McBride thing of his characters. They're so good at not having any shame about their shitty oldness.
Yeah. Credit to Joram and Andy on that one, as well as Cool Beans. There came a moment I remember in prep, where all my time as the official director started getting eaten up with location scouts, talking to department heads, just all the stuff that starts happening. But the script was still ready for more inspiration. And that's when you guys came to that one.
We would listen to John Farnham. He's Australian, very popular in Australia, but not an American and very well known. But he had a song on the Rad soundtrack that we would listen to. He had multiple songs on the Rad soundtrack. So then we would just peruse his other library and found that song.
That's a big hit, Down Under. Yeah. You know, just inspired. You were just breathing in that Crocodile Dundee air.
Yeah, yeah. It was just in that office.
And you have Isla. There's a lot of Australia stuff going on here.
We were like, this should be the song before we came up with the idea for it to turn into a riot. We were like, this should be like, this song starts playing. This is like the day of the jump. And then people start joining in.
Yeah, yeah.
I would bet big money, Jorm, that you were the one who said, and then a dude just throws a trash can through it. And then we just wrote it from there.
But this one, I did not have doubts in, like Colby.
It is the best, I think, depiction of how looting starts I've ever seen on television. Yeah.
You're like, yeah, that seems real.
Everybody's behind one idea. And then, as soon as it becomes a new idea, everybody now has sort of just a collective thrust behind them.
It's also great because when you watch it, when you see the dude, you're like, oh, wait. Oh, no. Oh, you know where it's going.
But you're like, oh, God, no, no, don't do that.
Yes.
He's like the giant orc in the second Lord of the Rings with the big torch.
Yeah.
I see him running through the crowd. You're like, oh, no, no, stop that guy.
When we shot that, it was maybe the end of the second week. It was somewhere pretty early on. Or it might have been Friday of week one, even. Yeah. Because I remember Lorne being in a typical kind of Lorne, like bird's eye view.
He was like, now the crew really knows what movie we're making. Like, I can feel there's a different energy now, because everybody's kind of galvanized and they know that we're having fun and doing something big. And it was also because everybody, you know, we had a techno crane and we got big shots and a car was on fire, so it felt big. And he was like pontificating about how now we're really doing it.
Also, I feel like everyone. as we were shooting, thought it was funny, which helped.
Yeah.
No, but it is such a weird tone that I think that you're right. Like when Lorne said that, it did feel like, oh, now people get it. Right.
It was both not a thing I'd seen before and it would have been funny in any comedy. It was such a funny idea. That I think anybody working on it would be like, oh, okay, great. These guys are doing a new thing and I don't have to know anything about it to know that this is a very funny idea.
I'll tell you what, it was fun to do. Yeah.
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There's a really funny scene where the news, right? We've seen this move in films before. We're all of a sudden the newscasters on TV giving us some information, right? The newscaster says, and then the dog came home, ate a pizza and took a nap. So that's the story.
We've seen the tail end of the first story.
Yeah, I believe that's a Kiva bubble trousers vibe.
Yeah, for sure.
Then she gets to the information at hand where there's going to be a big jump. Everybody's there.
But unfortunately you can't watch it there because an AM radio station has exclusive rights.
Very funny. Second piece of news is that.
So then we've kind of haven't mentioned that the amazing Sissy Spacek plays your mom, which is hilarious every time I see it.
Both pieces of those casting was us just not even understanding exactly how big a deal a studio movie being made is. Just in general. I remember multiple times. I remember our main executive, our day-to-day executive, this woman, Ali Schirmer, coming up to us one day when we were greenlit in pre-production, but still in LA and going, this is a big deal, guys. This doesn't just happen.
This is a very big deal. Because she could tell our anxiety and worry, because the script wasn't where we wanted it to be, was way superseding any enjoyment. we were really getting about like, hell. yeah, we're doing it. There was no, as we call it, Vinny, chasing it where you're, just like, Maddie, and where are we going to shoot it?
As we call it? Yeah, as we all do.
You guys have never, and I mean, this is a compliment. You've never, Vinny, chased anything. No. You are always worried about it.
We were just balls of anxiety and worry. And she would have to like stop us and go, this is a huge deal. But also it had come relatively easy to us in that moment. Not like we didn't work hard, but it was Lauren just going, how about a movie now? And I was going, are we ready?
I don't even know that we're ready. And it was like, just start working on the script. We'll worry about it later. And then, all right, well, just go up to Vancouver and start scouting. We'll worry about later.
Like, so we were the ones trying to put the brakes and go, Hey, let's make it cheaper. Hey, are we sure we're ready to shoot? yet? Like, cause, once those trains are leaving the tracks, it's scary. You're just going.
Or, as somebody else said, like the boulders behind you, and you're just running as fast as you can.
I mean, yeah. I mean, a train. leaving the tracks certainly would be scary.
Yeah. That's what I mean. Jumping off the tracks and derailing. But anyways, just to say the point. But then we would say things like, what if his dad was Ian McShane?
They were like, give us a list of people. And we were like, what if it's that? Of course, that would never happen.
Okay. Ian's in. And we would be like, what are you talking?
I just remember them being like, what about Sissy Spacek? And us literally going, yeah, sure. Why don't you ask Sissy Spacek if she'll do our movie? And then they were like, she's in. And we were like, what the fuck?
Oh, no.
And then was the greatest person we've ever met. Yeah.
She runs when she hears it's on AM radio. She turns off the TV, but you do hear right before the TV goes off. Also, a riot broke out downtown. And also really funny to think that the way the news structured the stories that week. Yeah.
Tom Curry was about a dog who had maybe been lost or something.
Then it was the jump, but they didn't have rights to. So they wouldn't be able to show you. And then this crazy riot broke out.
And there was also a riot, by the way.
It's maybe not a good news show.
I remember with the recording of that, News Anchor Woman is a real one of a local news up in Vancouver. And they kind of showed us a few different local anchors who were allowed to do things like that and could do it at their station with their equipment. So it'll look perfect. Oh, right. And they just said, you don't even have to go down there.
They'll just read it like it's news, because they just know how to do that. Just give a script. And I remember the joy of being like, oh my God, anything we type here, this predates Anchorman, but it was very Anchorman. in the feeling of like anything that goes on teleprompter, she's going to say. Right, right.
And then when we got that footage back and we're watching her talk about the dog, walked itself home, ate a pizza and took a nap. We were like, in heaven.
Oh my God. What were some of the other ones? And that's why whales are stupid.
Just for the record, Anchorman came out in 2004.
Oh, it was post Anchorman. Nevermind. It was Anchorman IRL.
There's a moment I wanted to ask. It's jump day. You're signing autographs for some kids. And you basically write, you say, you are cool. Don't be like Frank.
But then what you're writing is I hate Frank. It seems like you're dictating a different thing. Yes.
I just watched this. It's so confusing.
It's very confusing.
I still like that joke. And I don't even remember it in the movie.
I don't remember it at all. But that is funny.
It's the exact kind of choice we would make.
And also, like the handwriting, I have no sense of what we're trying to. It's like, this is another reminder. Like a lot of these movies, like a lot of Sandler movies, there was like a 20 year stretch where late in the movie, you're like, oh, there's something super wrong with this dude.
Yeah.
Like he's God. Yeah.
Yeah. You're definitely like, he should not be with a grown woman. Yeah. Like no one should be with him.
It's crazy. When you see the, how he wrote it. And it's like, like, you didn't know how much paper you had. You barely fit. I hate Frank on it.
You can tell it's Andy's actual handwriting, though. Cause you're like, well, why would they use this? This is crazy.
I have no recollection of any of it.
Your handwriting is so bad in it. It's unbelievable.
We then revisit Jonathan and Denise. Jonathan has not told Denise about the big jump and they're driving down the street. And again, because the audience is a little on the fence about Jonathan, you hear a bump and she goes, what was that? He's super psyched because they hit a raccoon, just cackling. And then she's a little taken aback.
And he says some version of that raccoon would have hit us if it had the chance.
Again, it's really funny. Cause this is our last scene with Jonathan and he's just really pouring it on his last moment of this. Cause we don't want the audience to feel like she's making the wrong choice. He goes in to buy vitamin waters. And then also I can't even remember what he calls condoms.
The worst thing you've ever done.
Dong bags. Maybe I should pick up some dong bags so we can knock boots later. That's what he says. Awful.
Makes a lot of sense that his character, as like a stockbroker, would say knock boots.
Then a really funny thing happens, which is he goes in the convenience store. So, of course, what would she do? If your bad boyfriend left you in a car, you'd switch over to AM radio.
Back to what she likes.
Now she gets the news.
Perfect plotting.
And so she takes off and he yells, babe, wait. It's very funny. Arnett leans over the car and screams, babe, wait. It's much like the fall in the woods. It's more babe waits than you think they're going to be.
Yeah.
It's funny, because it's actually in the script too, which you wouldn't think.
He switches it up each time. It's really nice.
Babe, wait. I believe also your, yeah.
Yeah. That wasn't me. Cause. we wrote no babe, wait. And then I had the great idea to make it longer.
What if he kept saying that over and over? I don't remember which one of us decided to chop it off and edit, but whoever did was great. Cause the fact that he's mid babe and it chops and it cuts off. The implication being this went on for quite some time.
There's a Parnell line. I don't know who wrote it. It was you. I know I wrote it. Okay.
Had to have been you.
If you like stunts or terminally ill stepfathers.
Yeah, definitely. That was you.
If your answer to either of both of those is yes.
Yeah. And then you're in the right place. The reason so many of these are you, Seth, is that like the day before or a couple of days before, we realized, okay, so we're going to have Parnell. We're going to have him sitting there at a mic. in the script.
Of course, a script will be way too long if you put everywhere he could narrate. And then there's always that moment when you're like, oh wait, he's going to be sitting there. We should get him talking about everything that happens from the moment the day starts to it ends. so we can cut to it whenever, but it's not in the script. There's only a few choice lines in the script and we're all super busy, and you're there to do exactly that.
So you wrote us a ton of stuff. And once you have two cameras and he's sitting there, he can just run through them. So you give us tons of gold, and it helps, of course, in editing so much.
And we should note that I share something with the three of you. Nothing's more fun than writing for Chris Parnell. Yeah, yeah. Just knowing an absolute technician of dryness.
It's so funny.
Yes, yeah.
Addiction and dryness will just perfectly enunciate any nonsense you put in front of him. A joke I forgot. Denise shows up, kisses you, and Bill says, why is Rod kissing his sister? He thought the whole movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His sister relationship, the whole movie.
Really quiet, a very quiet moment.
We were so happy to have that too, because the whole time we were like, it's a studio movie, so they have to have that in it.
Yeah.
They were just like, oh, and then she has to show up and you guys have to kiss me. And we were like, does it seem honest? And they're like, don't ask that question.
Well, we undercut it twice. One with Bill and one with your reaction to the kiss, right? Where, at least at first, you're confused by a kiss, because you probably never really tongue kissed a girl. And you're like, whoa, I just wasn't ready. In your tongue.
And she's like, oh, God, sorry. And then you do kiss her again to make it OK. But at first you are confused by an adult, passionate film kiss because you're a child.
But the Bill one for me is gold, obviously.
Then Parnell does add that the Boner police are here. I demand a lawyer.
Oh, there you go.
Really good line.
I think we've now undercut it plenty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe even too much.
I demand a lawyer.
And then the jump. I forgot this joke about the jump. You go off the jump.
Wait, wait, wait. Can we back it up, though, real quick, please? Because my favorite line of my lines in the movie is when we're giving Rod presence for the jump and he gets the cool leather Evel Knievel jumpsuit. And I say, you're going to look like a champion, Rod. And it's so whack and earnest.
Nothing's funny about it. It's just so whack.
You just love him so much.
You're gonna look like a champion, Rod. Nothing's funny about it.
I feel like on set. we would constantly make fun of you. You would make fun of your own character. What else, Rod? What can I do for you today, Rod?
Are you sure you didn't try to convince us to cut that line a bunch of times before the movie came out?
I probably did. Now it's my favorite.
You're gonna look like a champion, Rod.
I just don't think it plays as a joke.
That's even funnier that I was uncomfortable about not being cool.
It's a great scene. You jump off. You're in the air. Slow motion cuts, as you sort of nod to each of your teammates. Again, it's really thumbs up.
Heroic music.
And then we cut to the wide and we realize you've long separated from the bike. Yes, yeah. It's great.
I want to say that was Pam Brady and it was always in there.
Yeah, I don't know if all the nods and stuff, but the separating from the bike. Hers was Snake River Canyon, much like the real Evil King Evil did. There was a bunch of other details that were different, but that's what I mean. All the big points of it, of like that he doesn't nail the main jump, but it doesn't matter, because he earned the money. So he succeeded, even if he failed.
That was definitely in. And the separation.
Did Pam's go to Vegas at the end? Yeah.
It did, right? I thought Pam's went to Vegas.
What, we didn't do. Snake River Canyon?
I don't think so. It was like, that was his reference of like, I got to do something bigger than Evil King Evil.
Maybe that is.
I don't know.
Well, anyway.
You take a very hard fall, slide across the ground. It's a really good fall.
By the way, another fucking incredible stunt.
It's a really great stunt.
Yeah. Also to the not spending money. I remember sometimes producers going, you know, you can use some of the like steady cams or you could ask for a techno crane. It's a studio movie. You don't have to make everything feel like handheld and small.
And then I remember us being like, yeah, well, we will. In the third act. Like we throw away the cheapness in the third act as a way to be like, no, his world is expanding. I remember I was talking about like, it'll turn into a big movie as it goes. So when it got to the riot, we're like, okay, the riot can feel like a big riot.
And then when it gets there, all of a sudden, you really notice when, like it, gets that shot where you're on the top of the jump and the camera is on a big crane and goes up and meets him up at the top of the jump. Right. It's like a really heroic, big movie shot. And all of a sudden we really have 2000 extras and we have the bleachers and we have all the buses.
It'd be so funny if that's how Tom Cruise felt about the Mission Impossible movies. Like in the beginning, it should be just like a totally small thing.
Yeah. It should feel like an indie film.
Like you, should stop like a purse snatcher. Yeah.
That's the first part of the Impossible Mission.
Early on, the mission should be like really possible.
The odds are constantly building.
And you're like, what? Why is this called this?
It's like, he's got like 99 to 1.
. Wait for it. It's going to be fine.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
By the end, it's 1 to 99.
It's a really like, portly gentleman purse snatches. And you're like, oh, he's going to catch him.
Yeah, he's going to get him.
He's like, don't worry. This is easy. Very possible. He's fast.
Parnell says when you crash, I hope none of his teammates had a fight with him this morning because he's more than likely dead. I do enjoy that. And then it's a wonderful callback to an earlier question. you asked Denise when you were obviously going to ask her out. And then you realize she's dating Jonathan.
And she asked you, what were you going to ask me earlier? And you said, who would win the fight between a grilled cheese and a taco? And it turns out that when you're basically dead, that's what you have a vision of.
Right.
Yeah.
And we see your third haircut of the movie, which is the dumbest one. Now it's part of dead in the middle.
That's his heaven.
Your heaven, hair is my favorite hair. A third haircut. Middle part. A third style.
Having a part down the middle is definitely heaven head. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like how all those Hummels look. It's like Hummel hair.
I don't know what that is.
You know, those like little porcelain figures that, like old people, have. Oh, yeah. With little angelic.
I like that. you know the name of that.
Oh, I know what Hummels are. I Googled it. Okay, go on, Seth.
A lot of people are celebrating when you get up, including Scrooge. Yeah.
Well, first of all, that originally made more sense because when we get to $50,000 and big triumphant music starts, it was going to turn to Christmas. And so it was going to start snowing and the bells were going to ring out. And then Scrooge was going to appear. And say, I cook goose. So it all made sense.
And then we were told we couldn't do that. It made perfect sense. So then we kept Scrooge.
And Scrooge leans out the window of one of the buses. you've jumped with a Christmas turkey.
Yeah, with a cooked goose.
A goose, of course. Apologies.
We're goose guys.
Yeah, I cook goose for everyone.
It's a success. And then you think, you know, you would think, well, that's obviously the last big set piece of the film. But for those of you who might have forgotten, the whole purpose of this was to successfully do the jump, to make the money, to save Frank. It's six months later and we have our final fight scene. Now, I should note, Deadwood has the greatest fight scene I've ever seen in a show.
The street fight between Dan Doherty and Captain Turner. It's like the gnarliest fight. This gives it a run for its money. This is a very good fight.
It's like Deadwood, they live in this.
Well, and to back it up, it's set to Europe's The Final Countdown album, which many, many of the tracks on the soundtrack of this were from that album.
Yeah. While we were writing, we were listening to Europe's album and then eventually said, can this album just be... Has a movie ever been made where a pre-existing album becomes the soundtrack, where we don't even need to make a soundtrack because someone can just go buy an album? And we were at one point going to challenge ourselves to license every song on the album.
and just re-put their album out as our soundtrack.
I think like six of the songs made it in. Yeah.
You crash through multiple walls, fences, you sort of roll into a barbecue in the back, but there is a really jarring, very funny moment where Frank just throws a throwing star at you.
Oh yeah, right at the top. He's been expecting you.
Do you think Rod's ready now that he feels he's a true man, but then he gets hit with that throwing star and thinks twice?
And he lands the ultimate punch. Yeah.
He lands the ultimate punch. And that's the last moment. is we see that Frank shits himself.
Yes, exactly.
Which is also a callback, because that happens earlier. when Denise does it to you.
Right. Denise teaches him the Tai Chi move. that makes you shit your pants.
Seamless callbacks. All the threads are knotted. Perfect.
I'm going to just say a compliment to our friend Akiva. When I first saw an edit of that fight scene, I remember vividly being like, oh shit, he directed this hell of well. Like. the action looked good and painful and it moved really smoothly. And there's like the really cool shots where the camera on Dolly goes like to the side with the action.
And then especially the moment when they go through the wall and back out into the yard looks really cool. And it was like innovative and cool in ways that I was not expecting from what we had shot even.
Piggybacking on that, even you talking about the cranes and everything, Keith, because I wasn't really privy to it. Like that's a real learning experience that you kind of had separately for me being around you.
I mean, the real learning experience is when you guys got to go to the Pirates of the Caribbean premiere at Disneyland and I was already in Vancouver location scouting and I didn't get to go.
That's the hard way, is what you call that.
So you learned that directing is really tough, because when you're up there learning things, everybody else is having a closed down Disneyland, where you get to ride the rides and then watch the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. You guys want to talk about how that was?
It was great. I didn't even remember you weren't there.
Who went for me? Who took my spot? Somebody took my spot.
I hope Chester or Matt. Matt Bettinelli came.
Matt from Who Does the Screen Movies Now? maybe was with you guys.
I'm sorry.
It was fun. It was so fun.
I'm sorry, Keith.
Yeah, but I was up in chilly Vancouver in that sad office.
By the way, we got invited to that premiere because Lazy Sunday was about the Chronicles of Narnia.
Yeah, it was not Jack Sparrow related. yet. We hadn't made that yet.
Oh, that's right. But it worked. They invited you to the premiere and then you came back and helped brand their franchise.
Yeah, we did some of that. What do we call it? NARC advertising?
Yeah, whatever you were.
NARCvertising?
We've come full circle.
Native advertising? Is it that? That seems like maybe something you're not allowed to say anymore.
You always know you're in good shape when you have to say that after a joke.
Can't say that anymore.
Don't worry. No one can hear this.
I will say, though, if it hasn't been thought of yet, I do like NARCvertising.
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Guys, this is the hard part. now. You make this film. I watched it, like I said, in the last 24 hours. Really enjoyed it.
Holds up really well. It's tight. It's right. Great actors. The movie does not work the way the studio wanted to.
The way you guys wanted to. Can you talk a little bit about when that became clear?
Let's talk about editing for one second. We were right back at SNL. Oh, yeah. And we only could edit on off weeks of SNL, which was really difficult emotionally because we were all like, we have a feature film that's going to come out. And for better or worse, Lauren's attitude is always that SNL is real work and movies are like fun summer break vacations.
So it wasn't like I would be like, can I not be at work this week and edit? And it'd be like, no, no, no. The editor's working on a show. Yeah, we have a show. So, I mean, and God bless him.
He could talk to Paramount. He's one of the few people that could and just get us a really long post schedule. I have no idea how long it was. But, you know, it's really expensive to have editors in an editing room. And he must have just been calling Paramount going, they have to be at SNL this week.
So give them more weeks.
Yeah.
Because ultimately, I bet you, we did have the right amount of time to some degree. But it was always very stressful because our minds were in two places at once, that whole.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That whole time, right? And I remember also we did have money left over and they're like, do you want to reshoot something or find something? And we were, I don't know what I would do in hindsight, but we were so young and so, like, not equipped for that. We were kind of like, I don't know how, like, we were still also just being like, we're just trying to get what we have edited. the best it can be to see the forest for the trees.
And then maybe, once it's edited perfect, we'll be able to look at it and go, what else could it use? But until you get what you have, correct, we couldn't even think about what else we might need.
I will just say this. I don't think there's a reshoot that would have made that movie make more money.
I agree.
What it is, is what it was. And that's what we wanted it to be. We just didn't know that. that was not something people didn't want to go to the theater to watch.
But there's a little bit of a push and pull, like you're talking about when you're mentioning, like what the studio would allow or not, beyond Baby Wiener. There really was that script. We had a game plan. We were like, all right, we're going to take this script here that has all these great ideas and really good jokes, but doesn't make a lot of sense and doesn't like have a beginning, middle and end in the version we were handed. And our first draft was like, let's just make it make sense.
We turned that in. And to us, it was like, yeah, that's like the bare minimum. And to the studio, they're like, holy crap, you turned in a movie. That was the quote. I remember like, well, you know, they say, a movie, meaning like, this is a whole movie, because so often writers don't turn in something.
that's a movie, honestly. And we were like, right, right, right. Now for our next round, where we're going to like give it more emotional stakes. And we kept referencing Welcome to the Dollhouse, being like, we're going to give it some of the sadness of that, so that you actually care about these characters.
Always a good reference.
We knew we were making a different movie, but we were like the weirdness that this character feels like, let's put some of that into this, so you actually might care.
I would have loved to have seen that version of this movie, but thinking about us name checking, Welcome to the Dollhouse.
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