"Danny McBride"

Hello. Welcome to Smartless. I'm Dane McBride, and I've been a fan of this podcast for quite some time. From listening to it multiple times, I've decided there are a few things that we could do to improve this show. One is fire the three fucking hosts and put me in instead.

How's everybody doing? I haven't seen you guys in a long time.

I saw you last week.

Oh, yeah. You saw me last week. No, but I'm like a week goes by. It's a long, feels like a long time.

I know. Sean, you woke me up this morning. You told me I'd be late for work.

That is true. But you didn't return the text. But, Will, we went out to dinner and at the end, which was so embarrassing, Will ordered, told the waitstaff that it was my birthday. That was embarrassing.

It was in New York. And we, at the end, they said, is it any, you know, and I go, yeah, it's, uh, it's Sean's birthday. And so they brought out a piece of cake with candles. Yeah. It's not his birthday.

It's so stupid. It's so boring.

It is an old trick that always works.

It's a fun one.

Speaking of birthdays, uh, we have an announcement of a really exciting new thing that we want to talk about.

Right. So, and that exciting new thing, Sean, is, is there a new, uh, new podcast with Rex?

Chapman.

It's called, uh, Owned with Rex Chapman.

Oh, good.

So we're going to be chatting with him really briefly.

Stick around at the end. At the end. Normally, when you're like, I'm out of here. Fuck those guys. Stick around.

Yeah. No, save a little, save a little bit for the dessert.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

going to air, uh, but something can probably be tied into the presidential campaign. Uh, as soon as you see our next guest. Uh, I mean, he just had an announcement yesterday on Twitter. that didn't go well, but today we're going to, we're going to give old Ronnie D a nice launch. right now.

How did we get, how did we get old Ivy league Ron DeSantis in here? I love these guys who are, they're all like the elite, the elite. And every single one of these guys are like double degrees from Ivy league colleges. Ted Cruz, DeSantis, all these guys with clouds.

Um, anybody else got anything else, or can we get to run? I got a couple of things, but.

if you want to get, get on with it. No, go ahead. Let's, let's hear your watch. Watch.

an opening stuff on his desktop right now.

No, I wanted to say one of the things, cold, open ideas. Let's hear it. We were, when Will and I were at dinner, I sure wanted to show him and was a waitstamp still around the table.

Oh, fuck. Ron's got a good cold one. Hey, Ron, just get thirsty. Waiting. We'll be right.

with you. Mr. D. we, we were, we were at dinner and I said, I showed, I wanted to show Will something on Instagram. So I hit search and when I hit search, all that came up, or guys.

who are bears and dogs, wait, what's the dog? It's like a, it's like a domesticated animal.

that people have in their home. I thought that was a description of, uh, of, um, a different.

type of, uh, like gay bears and dogs. And so it was, Jay, it was unbelievable. And it.

was just all, all like big burly dudes in tight jean shorts, hairy chest. Does Scotty.

know that you still have an active search? Because if you touch one, like if you click on one thing, the algorithm thinks, Oh, well, you must want to see everything. It's like,

no, but you've been with Scotty, a very cute bear, for years. 17 years. Yeah. Okay. So why is there still a recent search for fucking hot bears?

you don't look at pictures of, I don't know, big breasted, whatever, buddy. No, I do not.

And I'm, I'm actually embarrassed to say that, um, my, I have a non-existent relationship to porn. I, I'm a, it's very odd. Well, the other one, the other one of the three, threesome.

is silent. So I do. I'm letting everybody else bury themselves in comments that will.

either cut or hang on a second. No, well, you're not clean on this at all. No, no. It's.

like, I don't either. I clicked, I clicked like one, one time. And then the algorithm sends you 10,000 things. So it's like, I get 10,000.. This is on Instagram.

So this is Instagram that he's looking at, photographs of things that'd be like, God,

it's sorry. My photograph. Sure. So if the image is moving, then that's pornography. If it's just a still definitely different.

I'm not a big porn guy. Right. But you're an average male. I have never have been. It's.

something that's part of the male thing over. some weird. I know. I know. But for some reason, that's just that I, that switch is just off.

have a problem with people. Well, first of all, you have to be an adult. I think this is a important distinction that needs to be made. And I think that porn is really fucked with people's perception of what sex is. It's a hundred percent.

looking at it, but I looked at it when I was a kid and I didn't think that every sex session,

but it was different. No, but it was different. back then. I was just having this conversation because I've had this, I've had this conversation with my kids and, and cause, with the older kids, because they can find anything. Well, because the internet is so readily readily available.

There we go. Not a big one, but part of it. Let's move on to Ron DeSantis guys. Um, okay, here we go. This guy.

It couldn't be further from a beer. It's a pineapple waterloo. Oh boy. You could drink.

a beer, cause you're East coast right now. Right? So you could have a lunch beer. It's after 12,.

it's 1243.. So that's technically okay. That's. that's within the realm of possibility. And where we're in North Carolina.

I love me some, Charleston. You got a handsome house out there in South Carolina. Look at that.

background. Nice depth down there. What is happening? Danny McBride. What's up man?

Thank you all for having me on here. This is incredible. Yeah. First of all, alien covenant. One of my favorites.

he's, he's hiding in Charleston, keeping it all the Halloween movies that you wrote. I like a.

massive, massive fan. Oh, thank you so much. That's Danny. The, the first time I saw you was in foot fist way. It blew me the F away.

Archie and Abel, that film? No. You know what? I need to show Fran and Maple, that I just,

I just saw Jody recently. Uh, did he tell you that Jody Hill? And, uh, we worked together briefly on this commercial a couple months ago. I told him to say hello. I bet you he didn't.

He kept that for himself. You know, he doesn't want my head to get too greedy. Yeah.

I told him to say hi to you. And, uh, but we were talking about foot fist way, and I love that movie so much. And I wish you could tell us a little bit about how that, that came about. Cause that was.

just such a, do yourself a favor and check that out. I'm sorry. I haven't seen it. Oh,

Sean, you're going to fucking love it. Walk us through it, Danny.

You know, it was one of the first things that I ever did. Jody and myself went to film school together back in North Carolina. And, uh, we were living out in Los Angeles for a few years. He was like working on the writing staff of, like road rules. I was doing this, uh, he had the best job out of all of us writing staff on road rules.

to go and shoot, shoot still photographs. Yeah. Camera on a slider on a lock off and just push it. I didn't get it. Danny, you need a little slower, please.

but easier than working with actors. Yes. And Jody and I were out there for a few years in Los Angeles and, yeah, we wrote that script together and then went back to North Carolina and, uh, shot it for like 70 grand. And wow, it got into, like the midnight screenings at Sundance. and then, uh, yeah.

we, uh, and we, we weren't in the scene together and up in the air, but we're both in that film.

Yeah. Right. Yes. Um, I auditioned for that same part, Jason. Seriously.

air. Yeah. No way. For Jason's part. Yeah.

do you remember any dialogue? George, we're going to have to let you go. Good. George,

we're going to have to let you go. Okay. So now I'm kind of seeing, I'm kind of seeing the.

difference, right? It's a different. take for sure. It's a whole different thing. It was a comedy when Sean read for it.

uh, when we were working together, Eli was a friend of the podcast and we were working with Jodi. Eli kept going off about foot first way. Cause he kept saying, I just love mall karate so much. He's like, Eli's like, I just grew up in Halifax. We had mall karate.

kind of a high wire act, because no one's asking for a laugh in that movie. You're playing a guy who's real tough to like on. so committed. So committed. Yeah.

Shit. I'm so glad the question was for Danny.

stuff that we kind of mind, whether it's like foot, fist way or even eastbound, I think it's just the fact that we just try to make sure that the character is, you know, feels real and has dimensions, so that, like you're, it's not just throwing out Dickish behavior for Dickish behavior, but there's underneath of it, you can kind of see some dimension and maybe understand a little bit where it's coming from. You know, there's more to digest. Do you usually, uh, lovingly ignorant.

or, or, or uneducated, or something that kind of allows for it, right? It's not, it's not,

you're not being hateful. Um, well, I, I, I think that probably, I don't know, Danny, correct me if I'm wrong or if you disagree with this, but I, I think that there is that notion of, like I said before, when you're so committed to the character, as long as you stay committed to it. And like you say, and you can't ever, I, people accuse me all the time of playing assholes. I'm like, I don't see them as assholes. I see them as naive or whatever.

there. Right. Cause. if you were smarter, you'd be nicer. Yes.

it. You know, and some of it just comes from too, when we were writing it, you know, we would try to write scripts that were the, the protagonist was friendly or, or had, like, you know, noble instincts, and it would always would just take the script down. So, uh, you know, like predictable paths. And then, when you start aligning the movie behind the bat, what would typically be the bad guy in the story, it just said suddenly becomes more interesting. There's like more to do.

Yeah. Now, what about when have you, have you written despicable characters and given them to other people to play and just like, what, what is that process like for you? Um, where, because so much of what you write is dependent on how you perform it. to make that, that combination palatable. Right.

else? I think it's pretty fun. I mean, like what we'll do, even on, like, you know, the righteous gemstones, which, you know, that, that new season is coming out here very soon, June 18th.

June 18th, righteous gemstones, max max. I think sometimes, you know, with that,

a lot of characters in that are unsavory. And I think it's like, we'll try to find the comedy and the behavior as opposed to like a punchline so that, like the actor, could really get their head around. behavior where, like the delivery of a specific line, is open to interpretation. But it kind of feels like when we really get in there with bringing anybody into our circle, if the behavior, if the behavior makes sense, then I feel like a lot of people can step in.

Is that where you think people go wrong? the most is getting that backwards?

I think so. I think sometimes you try to be shocking with what a character says, but I think to try to figure out what a character does and make that more shocking is kind of more.

interesting. You know what I was finding when you, when you get into, when you write characters like that and you work on things where on the page, they seem super unlikable. We always, we used to talk about this all the time when we're making rest of development, which is, the writers would do a really amazing job of making these characters despicable and funny, but it was always our job to try to make them likable, to kind of counteract that. And that's, and if you looked at it on the page, you'd be like, fuck, what? There's nothing, this character sucks.

fuck, man, these guys are dicks. But it's also so reliant on, like, you got Adam Devine and John Goodman in there, who really know exactly what we're talking about, how to do it. so well, play, play these deeply flawed, broken people, uh, that end up being, you know, really lovable.

Danny, I will, I will. And let me ask you this, cause I've, I've mentioned this a few times and I think that you're starting to fall in. I think you're already in this, in this category. I maintain that John Goodman has never turned into bad performance in his life and he's been in some bad movies. Sure.

he's awesome. And I, I mean, we're always like blown away that we get to work with him, but you know, you just look back and I mean, he was making TV shows, you know, when TV wasn't even cool and he was still able to show up in the Coen brothers. and remember him, remember him in.

revenge of the nerds. Yes. Wow. Dude, dude, revenge of the nerds. He's the coach and he goes, he goes, you got beat.

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particular, but Jody grew up in North Carolina. I grew up in Virginia and both of us went to, met at film school, at an art school. And so I think we were both these kinds of guys that grew up in the South, but didn't necessarily like, kind of fit the mold of, like what a lot of our neighbors were about. And we would kind of find humor in it instead of like participating. And so I think once we got to school, we just sort of like just swapped stories.

up around. And so then we just... And for Tracy, Jody, is... Jody Hill. Jody Hill, who wrote, created Eastbound with you, right?

interesting point, just if I could, for one second, Danny. So you grew up in the South and that you were interested in stuff that was maybe different from what your neighbors, which is a really great way to put it. But what was that experience like, as two guys who are comedians and who are, as you say, don't necessarily fit that mold? What was that experience like? Sort of, did you feel like an outsider in your own home sometimes?

You know, when I was a kid, I don't think I realized it as much. It was sort of like when my friends were starting to settle down or stay in the town that I grew up in. You're like, oh, you're becoming that guy now. Or you're that fella in the town. I think when we were kids, you would just kind of gravitate towards who kind of...

Really? No way. That's wild. Wait, why am I blanking on Mr. Mom?

Michael Keaton was the... It is an unbelievably great movie. Yeah, great movie, yeah. What was the name of the movie that he?

did, where he went over to Japan and worked in an auto...

Gung Ho. Gung Ho, yeah.

No, they came over here. Yeah, that's right.

Sorry, didn't see that one either. Wait, Danny, do you ever like...

I do have Michael Keaton. It's the only impression I do. I love Michael Keaton. I just ran into him the other day. Me too.

Listener, the face is doing it. It's not the voice, it's the face. It still sounds a lot like Will Arnett. The face is doing a lot of the work.

Yeah. Do you ever write something, finish it, give it to an actor, and then go, goddammit, I wish I would have kept that part for myself?

You know what? I don't. I never really get... I feel like it's all my creation. And so I'm like, I think the parts when I'm in shows that I'm on screen are the parts I enjoy the least.

That's it. Yeah, it's got to be super satisfying.

And then what about when you read something and you go, oh, I could play this character, and you get a real specific take on it. that's a definition of what you do, and then you're not auditioning anymore, so you show up on set, and everyone's about to see for the first time who they've hired and what version of this character we're going to get, and here comes the Danny McBride special. Is there any... Has a director ever pulled you aside and go, hey, man, so... Like Ridley Scott, for example.

You know, I had a meeting with him. He called me in for a meeting, and I was like, blown away. I mean, I love that franchise and him, you know, especially.

You were so good in that. Yeah.

Oh, I appreciate that. Thank you. I mean, I was so nervous to go in there because the same thing, I'm like, I don't want to... I like these movies. I don't want to ruin them by being in it.

Bill Paxton in the first one was a perfect example, right?

That's what I kept watching. It was like, Bill nailed this. He was incredible in this world. You know, the other thing is he does like everything on. that movie was like five cameras at all times.

So, when you got on that ship for Alien Covenant, what was that set like? Is it as cool to be on as it is to see? Because it looks massive.

I got this one. Hey, Sean, you know, they didn't shoot in space, right?

And they build it. It's on a movie studio.

Wait a minute. One single tear.

No, it was all built. I mean, you rolled into the soundstage, and that ship was for real in there. You could walk through every hall of it. You could sit there. And he designs it so.

device to keep everybody on their toes a little bit. Yeah, why not? Totally. Totally. I really.

do that. We should do a comedy space thing, but like full scale, like that. Not like Spaceballs, was a great movie, but that was sort of like on purpose. It kind of was meant to be a little lo-fi, a little low-tech. But if you did it like on the Ridley Scott scale, no one winking, you.

know. What? if somebody's got something in their eye, so it looks like they're winking? Then it's.

a tick. Then it's a tick, and you need to be sensitive. Can I ask you a question? Unless?

Jay, you want to have... I want to ask you a question.

Are you just trying to highlight the fact that you had cable and that Danny didn't? Because he just said he didn't have cable growing up, and now you're talking, I watched behind the scenes. I watched on the other channel. I watched this. This is like a fuck you.

This is a fuck you to Danny McBride. No, this is sadly a year ago. No, but no, I've always been really into that movie because it was... I grew up on it, and it was wild. So the fact that you wrote the newest ones, which are so...

whole thing. Yeah, how did that come about? You know, one of my other cohorts that I moved to Charleston with is David Green, who's also a director. Yeah, he's amazing. He did a great job.

You're going to get killed by 500 Michael Myers. Oh, that's what I thought. That's what I really.

thought was going to be, and it was such a gratifying feeling when we screened it there, and to feel the audience in it at the end, and they're applauding and clapping. It was probably one of the coolest moments of anything in my career, that moment there with the fans.

So to what you were saying earlier, you really did the work about the characters, because if that's not there, it would have been such a failure, but really, like, the backstory and the relationships and everything is what made it so great. Yeah, that's what we love. I mean,

I think a lot of the stuff we're influenced by is a lot of that 70s cinema, which would be character pieces, and not necessarily story-driven, but sort of, you know, just pieces around characters that are interesting, and so I think we tried to apply that idea to our.

take on Halloween, and see what we could do with that. What's your ideal frequency of working? You're down there, you've got all your friends and colleagues down there. Do you guys like to always have something that you're shooting, and, at the same time, kind of working on what the next thing might be, or do you use it one thing at a time, and you're good to just kind of be shooting only one thing every kind of year and a half or two years or something? You know, Gemstones.

is about 15 months between, like, writing it and then shooting it and then post, and so that's taken... I've been on that, you know, one season right after the next, but it was funny, I moved here because I kind of was feeling like I was working too much when I was in Los Angeles. I didn't know how to, like, shut it down. My kids were starting to kind of, like, take notice of me being gone, and so I sort of, like, sold it to my wife that, like, moving to Charleston, we'd be able to chill, and I think we've been, like, busier. here.

a lot of fun. I'm kind of jealous. Now, the way that you're describing it, and I love Charleston, and I actually really like the South, too, and so I was, like, I'm kind of jealous the way you're talking about it, and, like... I know. Fuckin' hell.

I know. Everybody talks about it, but you guys did it. Let's take the show on the road.

Does your wife work with you at all? She doesn't, not now. You know, she was a private chef for a while. When I met her, she was... She would, like, translate for deaf and blind students at UCLA, and that's what she was doing when I met her, and then she became a personal chef for a while, and, yeah, now she's, like...

she's been staying pretty busy down here. Do you find that your kids are looking at what you do as something that they might want to do, or are they, like our kids, they don't give it up?

They're, like... Yeah, they don't give it up. My daughter kind of gives it up. My daughter is eight years old, and she loves everything that we do. She sees it.

around in circles. Yeah, dude, that's what I do. Yeah, me too. I had to put a bike in the back of my car. We live up here in Mulholland.

is, like, you know, I mean, it's kind of wild. Like, the other day, someone just knocked on the bike. It's like, Declan here, you know, and they all. I love that. I love that.

PlayStation or an Xbox or something for Maple, because, Willie, we came over to your house the other night, and Maple went upstairs, and Abel and her played video games for a couple hours. I went up there and watched a little bit. It's incredible. Like, I grew up on Atari and Intellivision, and.

it from me, let alone her. Yeah, I know. I got you an Xbox a few years ago. We played for a minute,

but I, you know. That Xbox came from you? Yeah, man. Yeah, it's sitting in there. We played a, what was a super, some superhero thing for a little while, and then that was it, but I'm talking about, they were playing Fortnite, and this is just, like, what a world that is.

I played, well, I played with, like, years and years and years ago. You called me, or you got me Call of Duty or one of those games. Yeah, yeah. With a headset? Yeah, with a headset, and I played it for a minute, and I was like, I couldn't get out the door without getting shot over and over.

again, like. We got it, well, we talked, remember, we talked about what Krasinski got, made us all play when it first came out in 2007,, and then, Thoreau, who you did Your Highness with, and Tropic Thunder, I was wondering, did, trying to remember if you wore sleeves in Your Highness. No,

probably not sleeves, I know, I know, right? So, but you guys had a little Call of Duty league.

going, right? We had a league going. Justin was like, we used to, I remember years ago, Thoreau and I were out. It was a real great look, a bunch of 45-year-old dudes. We were out for dinner, we were out for dinner with our ladies.

Super Mario Brothers. Danny, listen, do you miss anything about LA that you so had readily?

available? Anything at all? Yeah, I mean, I loved living out in Los Angeles. I really did. I lived there for almost 20 years, and so lots of friends and Mexican food, but it's been cool.

and I love being up there. I've just never been. I just imagine, because it's not a major city.

Sean, you've never been to Charleston, South Carolina? No, I want to go. It's going to blow your mind. I would love to go. Let me take you.

I don't mean this to be insulting in any way to anybody that lives there, but I imagine it's slower than a big city, and is that something you miss? It is slower, and I think I was so.

tuned to Los Angeles that when I went back to Los Angeles after living here for a few months, I really found myself not able to keep up. I was like, God, it's just so loud and crowded here, and I was used to it. Everybody here is just super friendly. When we moved here, for a week, people were coming by and just bringing baked goods to our house. One time, we came home, and they had just laid it inside the house.

Something about that seems so appealing. It's funny. Abel was telling me the other day. Abel's my 12-year-old, and he was telling me that he'd gone to a friend's house. I picked him up, and I said, how was he?

In Charleston, you can still egg houses probably.

You definitely can still egg houses, yeah. This is how nice our... We have this older couple that lives next door to us. They're so awesome. They're so friendly, so nice.

great time watching it all. go. See if you can get inside the actual eye.

Tearing each other to run outside. Right as the worst part of the storm passed, our next-door neighbor texts my wife. She's like, oh, this is horrible. My wife is like, no, it's fine. Just drink some wine.

They actually baked you a fresh baked bread.

Yeah, they were incredible. I'm like, this could have been worse. This could have been a lot worse.

Sean, didn't you tell me about a club you went to once, where everything that wasn't tied down got?

blown?

I didn't have to see the bounce or anything. That's so fucking crazy, though. What an awesome story. I honestly, Sean, I, cause. I know every time Sean goes to a different and Jay's like this too, actually, I think everybody is, but every time you go to a different place, Sean's like, I want to move here.

there. Um, and I know I just never been there. and now a word from our sponsor. and now back to the.

show. It's a lot of golf down there. Danny, do you, do you play golf at all? I've played,

I'm not, I'm not any good, but I definitely, you have to go out. You have to get, I mean, everyone golfs down here and there's some pretty cool spots too. But what about the heat? Good Lord. You got the ocean to jump in.

going to be screaming that. Well, I wonder, I really want to go, tell us, tell us about what.

that moment was when, uh, so, uh, uh, Will Ferrell and Adam McKay, they see foot fist way. They say, uh, yes, please. We want to work with you. What was that start of that collaboration or that, that relationship with those guys like, and, and them, sort of nurturing you and validating you. And, um, was that, was it, did you know at the time that, okay, this is a nice, greased path into what we really want to do?

We had no clue. I mean, honestly, we were so free. It was funny. Like I went to film school and I had been kind of trying to do this. I wasn't trying to be an actor.

What was, where did the, are you a baseball fan? Where did the, uh, um, where did the,

the, the, the world come from? You know, that's like, I, I, I wasn't a baseball fan. I mean, I am now, but I, that's the thing we, when I was writing it, I never even thought about that. I would need to know how to throw or pitch or anything until we got time to shoot the pilot. And they like, they like, do we need to get a, uh, uh, like a, like, a, uh, a specialist, or we got this guy from the local college and he's like, let me see what you have.

like, constantly being like, well, he's a failed pitcher, right? There's a reason he's not doing.

well. Every time I throw the ball, it always like punches in right past me. You never have to see.

my full form. Oh my God. Um, I have a question about, like for all three of you guys, for Sean.

Yeah, sure. Thank you. Again, this is a great venue for your questions.

When you, Danny, when you, and, by the way, I want to know Jace with you directing and, and writing, will, I know you've all written and starred in something or directed and starred in something. Is it, is it a lot like the older you get, are you feeling like, you know, it's really great to wear a lot of hats, but maybe just the one hat now is fine. Like less, where you prefer just to show up and know your lines as an actor and then go home or, or do you still enjoy doing?

it all? I like, I like that every once in a while, just to show up and wait for them to knock on the trailer and say, time to come out and talk. And then you do that for about 10 minutes and then

you go back in because it just seems like an overwhelming amount of, I, I find it the reverse.

The older I get, the more I just want to do this stuff that, that I create. Yeah. Yeah. And work hard, hard, hard. Yeah.

like, don't you, I'm just thinking about the Halloween things or anything where you write, but then you go run off and act. And now this show that you're in right now, you're doing both.

It's just seems like a lot. It is a lot, you know, uh, show running is, is, is definitely difficult. I mean, that, that kind of process of having to deal with the scripts at the same time, you're dealing with production and it's, it's a ton. And then, and then go, have to, and then act. And then you have to know your lines and have your energy up for it.

there's something fun about that. Danny, are you watching somebody or something right now? That's, that's, that's keeping you kind of motivated and thinking forward. And, um, like, uh, I don't know, I was thinking for what we were talking about Halloween and, and combining comedy and filmmaking and all that stuff. Like Jordan Peele's, a really exciting guy nowadays.

boat. Yeah, I definitely like him a lot. Uh, you know, like, weirdly, when it comes to TV stuff, I find myself just watching like reality TV. Like my brain just doesn't want to commit to anything. So I'm like, I'm all about the Vander pumps right now.

It is a wipeout, isn't it? You watch it, Jay? Yeah, I've seen it. It's just, uh, I just, I love all that. And it's also just the way they make those shows.

what's weird. And I, and I haven't watched a single frame of Vanderpump rules. That's right. Vanderpump rules. But I saw, and then we know Andy, we talked about Andy Cohen.

wait, what the fuck are we talking about, man? It's happening. It's so strange. They must fight the instinct, or maybe they're asked to, you know, cause trouble, but you kind of fight the instinct to cause trouble, to make for good drama, probably. So I wonder how much of it is them, how much of it is them trying to really contribute.

I mean, even the fact that, like so many of these reality shows, are ensembles, you know, and it seems like everyone's fighting for their, you know, for their notoriety or for how they leave.

their mark or become the most exciting train or their water cooler moment. Yeah. Yeah. That's so true. Vanderpump.

so how long has it been on? You know, I stopped watching it for a while and then I heard the news about this affair that happened and I was like, Oh, I need to, I need to tune back in and see what these Vanderpumps have been up to. And, uh, Vanderpump their name. No, it's Lisa Vanderpump is the lady who owns the restaurant. They all work out, but I liked just saying it plural.

last name on the show. And wait, and all these people work at her restaurant. That's right.

Yep. I still watch, I still watch the Jersey shore. You still watch the Jersey shore. I still.

watch it for the big burly dudes. Yeah. All right. So now you're, now you're powered down for the summer. Where are you and your, your little band of criminals going for the summer?

to take a big vacation? And I think I am. I'm going to, my kids have never really been outside of the country. So I think we've locked, we're going to do a straight up big European vacation. Yeah, we're going to Griswold and we're going to France, to Italy.

It's going to be awesome. So this is going to be one, one week, two weeks, three weeks.

It's going to be seven weeks. Come on. Everybody's going to take one little suitcase. That's our deal. And we're meeting different people on the way.

to drive like the Griswolds? Are you going to take trains or is it going to be a combination?

of all of this? It's a combo of both. I'm going to try to rent a car as much as I can. I just want to get the full experience, but we'll, we'll train it up a little bit too. Seven.

what, driving in Italy is the best because you think like it's. people are like, no, that must be insane. I'm like, no, it's the best because there's a madness. There's, there's like a method to the madness of it. And it makes sense.

Everything happened. Make sure you drive in Germany so you can go without, uh, any, uh,

any speed limit on the whole thing. Right. That's where that's the climax of the vacation. Sure. It.

is. It's okay to hurt people because you're at the end. Yeah. Um, but seven weeks altogether.

I mean, have you guys done that? We've never done it before. Yeah. We've never done it up. Yeah.

on trips, guys, like, do you think about like, I think about like, where's the nearest hospital or a doctor if something did happen? or, you know what I mean? Like. I also, I bet, like your, what does it call the dope? What does it call the dopamine?

Man, you're a real blast. You're a real blast to hang out with. What a fun fella you are. Yeah.

Do you get injured a lot, Sean? No one in my family's allowed to get headaches while we're.

gone. Danny, are all the, are the family's passports up to date? Have you looked at that? Everybody's up to date. Yep.

Yeah. And everyone's excited for nothing. Yep. Nope. They're all up to date.

I love, I'm so jealous. Why don't we all just move to South Carolina for real?

Yeah. Come to Charleston. Yeah. That's the first step. Let's go to Charleston.

there. Oh my God. I can't wait to go. I'm not kidding. I want to go.

ask you, Danny, do you miss, I know you said you, you love LA and there's a lot of great things about LA and New York. and, but do you, you kind of relish, like being out of the grind a little bit, that you get to have this kind of experience? that is not just always folk. I know you work a lot, but here sometimes work and social life and all that can just become one. Cause it's such a company town.

Yeah. Yeah. My underwear is just trade papers folded up nicely.

He can't, everything is within the context, the framework of show business. He has no real.

world experience. I, I, you know, I do, I've, I do like that. I like getting away from it. I mean, you know. what, it's kind of cool about it is that I felt like when I was in LA, you see billboards everywhere.

Well, can you hear this? Yeah, no, but it's not important, man. What about, uh, when you, when you walk into a market, though, do people there, do, they just, do they go, Oh my God, what, what are you, what are you doing here? This is a guy on movies and television.

People have been pretty cool. I think, because I don't know, I think people know that I'm here. And so then they're sort of, uh, they're nice. I mean, you gotta watch, you know, I don't go to bars or anything late at night when everybody's like, you know, inhibitions are down or any of that stuff. But, uh, yeah, I kind of, I mean, it's fun, like going to, like my kids, just go to public school here.

because of a lot of the characters you've played, you mentioned, and we all know that when you run into people after they've had a few cocktails, that's when people feel like you're definitely taking a photo with me. And you're like, Hey man, I'm eating dinner. Like, I don't care. You're taking a photo right now, but you're one of, you play a lot of these characters that dudes probably come up to you a lot, super aggressively when they've had a few.

Oh, a hundred percent.

Fuck yeah, Kenny Power. Like I've been, I'm, you know, when you hang out with Farrell, he gets that a lot. Cause everybody's like, he's like America's fucking best friend.

Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Here comes Johnny, high five. And you're like, all right, man.

It's always somebody like you can smell the booze in their breath. They're putting their sweaty arm around you and they're on their phone trying to show you how they dressed up, like you, for.

Halloween. Like that's always, that's always what it is. Yeah. That's hysterical. Yeah.

Dinner at five 30.. That's the key. That is the key. That's totally the key.

Um, Danny, uh, we appreciate your time. Thank you for sharing an hour with us, my friend.

Wait, tell us again when gemstones is coming out.

Gemstones June 18th, June 18th. And then we're going to need the address of your place there.

in Charleston while you're gone for seven weeks. So we can just kind of try it out.

and stay in your house there. I think you should. So that's a great time to kind of.

test drive Charleston. I might, I might do some exercise in your backyard on the trampoline with weights. There you go. The trampoline is gone. All right.

Have a great trip this summer. Everybody watched gemstones and, uh, please come back.

and talk to us anytime you want. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate.

it. Great to see you, man. All right. You too. All right.

Like, that's why I asked that question earlier. I'm so amazed that when people do, I can't imagine like writing and show running and then being in it and like being good in it. Like he is like, like Jason, like you are like when Ozark, when you directed the thing, and then you would just jump in front of the camera and act and brilliantly. And, uh, I mean, what, what part could he not play?

What movie would you not want him in? He could do the comedy, do the drama. He can just write. If you want him, not on it, which he often does as well, correct it. It's so, isn't that rare, though?

Yeah. That somebody can, that you can just pick up a pen, write a part for yourself in a show that.

you created and then go, make it. Yeah. And he does these shows for like three years at a time and then shuts it down and then starts a brand new one. I want to get into that line of work.

just going to say goodbye. Well, I got to go bye-bye because I got to go to this thing.

Oh, cool. Go to your thing. Um, it's really great, having seen you both today.

Sean, you know, I heard this, Sean, by the way, you're going to do your play tonight again.

Stand by your man. Oh, nice.

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Rex Chapman. Hello, Rex. Hello, Will, Sean, Jason. So great. How's it going?

Rex Chapman was going to do a podcast with us. I said, how are we possibly going to do a podcast about moonshine? But you know what they said? It's not, it's not right. It's not that it's.

going to be about sports owners, but you are here today because of owned, which is a smartless media podcast, that we're so lucky to have you. Yeah. So nice that you said yes to do that. I'm so thankful. you guys asked.

maybe like a listener that has no idea what this is about. I'm going to go, I'm going to,

I know I'm going to bring, okay, you ready? Now? talk to me now. All right. All right, here we go.

So you know how you guys, uh, with, uh, your movies or your TV shows, there's a financier, a person who's paying the bills, footing the bill. Sometimes those guys, those women people, they don't know anything about making a movie or, or a TV show. And I'm sure for you guys, that's pretty frustrating when that person wants to have say as to what's going on, on, on film.

It can be a challenge. Well, you're looking at my track record. I don't know anything about making a movie or TV show. So let's be real. Let's call it what it is.

different. I mean, there are good owners and there are not so good owners and there are bad owners. Most of them are millionaires to billionaires, and they do this for a hobby. Some are very good. Some of them have sports backgrounds, and those owners are usually pretty good to work for and play for.

and you're not, how tall are you Rex? Six, three, six, four. Right. So again, I mean, still by NBA standards, maybe not the tallest, but also very tall. Right.

for product. It's not good for the product, but that was, you know, that was an ownership that just didn't spin. I was traded, though. I was traded, though, from there to Miami, the Miami heat, who are currently playing or playing in the NBA finals. Yeah.

let people do their jobs. And it's not just money. It's also just like that trickle-down effect. vibe wise to the whole team is so important, right? From the ownership.

No question. And you know, the owners that know your kids and your wife's name, and you're, you know, you're the people that come to the game with you, the owners that it's no different than.

life relationships. Yeah. That's, that's what I like about it. Like, it's no secret. I'm not a massive sports fan, but listening to this podcast, owned, I'm like really into it because of that, what you just said, because it's, I love the human stories and like, I'm really, really into how that all works.

I think you make a great point, Sean. And I probably should have said this. This isn't targeted for sports nuts. This is targeted for people that listen to your guy's show, who are entertainment, people, who love storytelling and are going to get some of these.

crazy owners. Wait, Hey, by the way, Rex, sorry, just speaking of sports nuts, did you wear a cup?

No, it's a good question. We do. We do that. You know, I think back, and you know, why didn't we wear cups, but you also rarely get hit in the balls in basketball.

I wore one to high school just so I could feel a little more masculine.

So, but it's fun to sort of vicariously like live through these, these own, like. how many, how many people have said, boy, if I had $10 billion, what would you do? What would you buy? You know? And, and so to hear about what these massively wealthy people do with all of that influence and access and, uh, and permission, um, a lot of them do the right thing and a lot of them do the wrong thing.

I mean, see, those are the kinds of stories that you don't hear anywhere. Like, right. And, and other guests, that you've had on Larry Wilmore, Paul Sheriff, Russell, Russell Crowe, Ike Barinholtz, like a lot of people been coming on. It's fantastic. I wasn't sure I wanted to do this.

with you guys. Cause normally we just, I just entertain the, the Oscar winners. We've got Russell Crowe and Natalie Portman. None of you guys have won Oscars yet. Have you?

Now, what's Natalie talking about? They didn't give him out for the Millers on CBS. Sorry,

go ahead, Rex. Natalie's part of a soccer team, right? Natalie, a women's soccer team.

Yes. The LA, uh, angels. Oh, the angels, angels. Yeah. And, um, I mean, part owner, huh?

football, but everything else I played, I loved. I played a little bit too. I was, I mean, I played everything very average, at a very average, uh, rate, but I loved playing stuff and I'm a huge sports nut. The other guy you should talk to, by the way, is, um, Sean Hayes. is Sean Hayes.

Fantastic. They'll come on, throw these owners our way. You know, this is a smart list thing.

and you should share. Let's share. Sean, what did, did you play, uh, what sports did you play?

in school, growing up? You played, did you play soccer? I played baseball. I was on the wrens and the road runners, the wrens and the road runners. Yeah.

in the middle of the game, did you? You know, what's crazy about that is as most of us play sports just to have fun and to do something with our friends. And, and, but there comes a point where, if you're going to really play seriously, you almost have to be an asshole. And it's contrary to everything we teach our kids, raise your kids to be polite, nice, respectful, help each other, all of that stuff. No, not on the basketball court.

jury. When I played for the roadrunners, I was auditioning for commercials too, at the same time. And I get up to the plate and the coach thought he was being real supportive. Like, Hey, he's hit that out. I was United airlines commercial.

the two.

in that you got to look for? Is there other things?

Yeah. The guy who signs the check comes in. I mean, I don't care if I'm sweeping in the corner. If the boss walks in, I'm sweeping twice the pace. That's exactly right.

Nazi turbo, that does get your attention. Rex Chapman. It's called owned. It is. It is fun, funny, dynamic, surprising.

Thanks so much for having me. guys. We love you, pal. Thank you. Love you.

he was a huge NBA star and he understands the sport right from the inside. Uh-huh.

Yeah. So, uh, I mean, we're in good hands with him. It seems like, you know, I guess,

I don't know about you guys, but I never read his, um, auto.

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This episode was recorded on May 25th.