#2035 - Brian Simpson

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Stream by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

We were just talking about how much fun last night was. What a goddamn lineup.

Yeah, what a lineup, man.

What a lineup.

Ari, Dan Soder, Derek Poston.

Ron White. Ron White. You, Tony Hinchcliffe.

Yeah.

Wild lineup. Wild.

Yeah, what a fucking.

It's a great place, man. We were talking about this last night, the weird thing about that place is, even though, like, we talked about it for so long when we were at the Vulcan. Like, it was almost like one day it's all going to happen. And kind of we hoped it happened.

We were hoping it was going to happen.

But you never know until something actually happens. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Especially out here.

But now that it actually happened and it's been open for, like, what have we been open, like, six months now or something?

Yeah, since April or March.

Now it seems like it's always been there. Like, the Overlook Hotel or some shit.

I mean, because that building has a lot of, I bet you, a lot of dope shit's happened in that building.

100%.

You know? Like, just a magical moment. Like, when Oliver.

Yeah.

Man, it was incredible. No one, like, because, you know, I think people now might know that they can be surprised at some other shit, but, like, this is the first time it hasn't been a comic. Right, right, right. You know? He got brought up by Sagura.

Yeah.

You know, and I don't know what they were expecting. But, man.

I wish I was there for that one. He had done the podcast that day, but I had too much shit I had to do. I had to take off.

No, it was incredible.

His story's nuts.

Yeah, and he's a genuine dude. I mean, I still don't know a lot about him, you know?

Yeah.

Like, you know, but he seems to just really care about people.

He definitely does. Yeah, yeah. He's a real good guy. And, you know, now the question is, I mean, I think he's going to hold on to it. But that's the question.

Wow.

No mixing. No studio. This little bitch-ass microphone that you have at the bottom of your phone. And it sounds awesome. Which one song is that, Jamie?

It doesn't sound perfect.

Yeah, I mean, it's just a dude singing a song.

Well, I ain't got a dollar, but I don't need a dime.

I got a little spot in the country where I spend all of my time.

When the sun goes down on this bitty, bitty town, we can light up the phone, pass it around. I ain't got a dollar, but I don't need a dime. See, that's soul right there.

Yeah, you can't fake that.

And you know what, man?

Bro, that video, just on my Instagram, at one point, I don't know what it is now, but it was like 11 million views.

Yeah, and he's likable for now. People love him.

Yeah, for now. Isn't it funny? We're so cynical.

He's likable for now. Yeah, because you know how people are. People are fickle. But you know my theory about it is I think you just got to be yourself and take what comes with that instead of trying to please everybody, because that's what destroys you, trying to be fake so you can get stuff.

He and I had a phone conversation right when everything was taking off.

And you've got leverage.

Yeah, he's the real deal. It's like there's certain people, you see, when you go, oh, you don't have to do shit. You're fine. Now the world knows. Now the world knows.

Instead of getting high?

Instead of getting high. Two weeks later, number one song in the world.

I wonder what he would have gotten if he gave his life to Satan.

He would be that dude with the fucking, what's that guy's name? Sam. What's his name? With the fucking red skirt on the Grammys, dancing around like the devil. What's his name?

Oh, you mean Lil Nas X?

No, no, no, no, no. Lil Nas X did it earlier. Oh, yeah.

Everyone's doing it now.

Bro, the Lil Nas X one was hilarious because everybody freaked out. They couldn't believe it. This is the guy from.

Because he was giving the devil a lap dance?

Yeah, that guy, Sam Smith. Oh, Sam.

Okay, is this recent?

Yeah, it's the Grammys.

Man, I don't be keeping up with shit.

Good for you. Don't keep up.

Yeah, because I'm like, when it comes to the award shows and shit, I'm like, I'll hear about the stuff that I need to see.

Yeah, you hear about stuff. You know, we were playing Johnny Thunder last night, I'm Alive, and that's another cool thing about having friends that have great taste. You came up to me, and you're like, you've got to hear this song. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay.

Yeah, yeah, it's old school. You know, because that's what I do. Every now and then, I'll take a song, or I can take a playlist, and I go, make a radio station out of this playlist. And then I'll hear new shit that I haven't heard. So that just popped up on me when I was listening to Jimi Hendrix.

Goddamn, that's a good song. It's so good, and it just made me sad. Knowing that the dude's dead, because I was like, I bet he got fucked.

Yeah, and I didn't like any of his other songs. That made me sad.

I only listened to one of the other songs. I wasn't into it either.

Because that's the thing. That's how I know. Oliver Anthony's fine, because, you know, you heard the hit go viral, but then you're like, does he have any other good shit? All his other shit's good.

No, it's all good. And he writes it all himself too.

Yeah.

I mean, that wave file we just listened to off of a phone, I think he has a Samsung Galaxy S20..

Keep your publishing, man.

I mean, that's amazing. It's a three-year-old phone. And the microphone off the phone records the audio, and then when you listen to that audio, it sounds fucking great.

You know what else too? Whenever I see a real good live musician, I'm always like, fuck, this is way better than Common. You know what I mean? Like. we can't do with that.

They do a different thing.

Oh, man, it's a whole different thing.

It's a different thing, and it gets in your soul.

Music, yeah, it makes you feel something.

Yeah, it's like a drug.

And it's like people, oh, I guarantee you're not aware it is.

This episode is brought to you by Circuit of the Americas. It's almost time for racing here in Austin, Texas, with the United States Grand Prix taking place this October 18th to 20th. Imagine watching drivers whisk away at 230 miles per hour, strapped to an engine half as hot as the surface of the sun and cornering with 77 pounds of force weighing on their necks, nearly twice the g-force as a space shuttle launch. This will definitely be one of the biggest weekends of sports, entertainment, music, and incredible food in the U.S. with racers like Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton, Charles Leclerc, and Sergio Perez, along with performances by Sting and Eminem.

But this is a little microcosm of what society is. Beyonce is on tour right now, right? And she has a song where, like, in the middle of the song, she goes, Everybody on mute. And then you've got to be quiet for four or five seconds until the beat drops again. And so it's like a challenge.

They ruin the moment.

Yeah, those people should be arrested because they're, like, those are people that are always fucking stuff up for everybody. It's like, all you've got to do is be quiet. I think Atlanta got it right.

If anybody's going to fuck it up, it's going to be LA.

Oh, yeah, well, Fenway.

And if anybody's going to get it right, it would be Atlanta.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Completely disconnected from show business.

I think there should be a study done on this, on, like, why Atlanta? What specifically about Atlanta?

Well, it's always been known as a fun town. A lot of great artists have come from Atlanta, a lot of great music, great comedy.

No, they film. It's a big film industry.

Right, but not because it started there. Because they went there for the taxes. They went there because it's easier. Like, Massachusetts has that, too. What I'm saying about it is, like, you don't move to Georgia to make it as an actor, even though there's a lot of work there.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They gave me a bottle of that stuff. It's ridiculous. I don't play that. It's so hot. It's, like, too crazy.

You know what they always have in common? They had a rough, rough life before they made it big.

Yeah. A lot of them do. A lot of them do. Some of them are really impressive. And it makes me embarrassed that I sort of dismiss some actors.

That's the safest bet, though.

It is a safe bet. Yeah.

I mean, because an actor that is crazy,

And they're practicing on you.

Yeah. Yeah. And you wouldn't have no idea. You know? If Daniel Day-Lewis wanted to lie to your face, you wouldn't be able to tell.

Bro, when Amber Heard and Johnny Depp were having arguments that they recorded, Oh, like, this is peak insanity.

Yeah, it's crazy.

And they're both aware of it because they were told to record their conversations. So they're both being very performative. And they're both, like, conning each other.

My favorite part of Johnny Depp going, Don't tell me what it's like to be punched. Punched. The way he says punched, I can't. I laugh every time I hear it. Don't tell me what it's like to be punched.

Isn't that crazy that she was trying to tell everybody that he hit her over? the meanwhile she hit him?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I still, I'll never get over that shit. And the way. everybody just let her slide after that.

It's weird, because if that was a guy that did something and made something about some woman and, you know, tried to ruin her life like that, like, he'd be shunned. But there's still people that, like, who was, someone tweeted a joke about Amber Heard recently. Who was talking about that? Jamie. And they got attacked by, who was it?

Oh, they said a joke that didn't even say her name.

Right.

They were talking about her. Yeah.

Would it get canceled?

No, it was just, like, it's almost like she's hired, like, one of those, not, I'm not accusing her of hiring this, but there are publicity teams you can hire. So, like, if people are saying bad things about you, you can hire a team, and those people will go after anybody who says anything bad about you, and it discourages people from talking shit about you.

Oh, but that's, but that doesn't work.

It doesn't work, but it.

I guess it. lets people know you're not going to be an easy win.

It also makes the argument muddy. Because if everybody agrees that she's a psycho.

Oh, right, right.

You know, then it's like, it's just an echo chamber. But if you get the narrative to, like, fuck you, you don't know what happened before that recording, and, you know, he's an abuser, and this and that, and Amber speaks the truth, and she's a woman, and she was confused, and, like, you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of people that will chime in and say those things. And if you're hiring people, if you have, like, say if you're a politician and something goes down, and everyone's blaming you for some particular crisis, your city has, if you have, like, a marketing team that has a whole social media aspect to it, a propaganda aspect, essentially, you can have a bunch of people arguing for the mayor, and he didn't fuck anything up, and it's the city council's problem, and he warned them in 2014.. They can say shit, that's not even true.

Well, I got a lot of shit for my criticism of Amber Heard. But, like, hey, man, I'm not saying she wasn't abused. She was dating a crazy motherfucker. They were both crazy. But from the evidence I heard, she the only one that sounded like an abuser.

But that's the only evidence we heard. When those two were together, see, you've got to imagine they were together for how many years and how many drunken fights did they have. Like, who knows who did what to who, but the—.

But when you're at the point where you— Like, when the bitch shit on your bed, you've got to get out.

You've got to get out. You've got to get out. She's a boundary crosser.

Yeah, I've got no empathy for you past that point. When you've got to start recording your spouse, it's time to go. Why even try to win that? fight down? Just leave.

I think for people like that, too, because they're so famous, it's probably very difficult to find someone new. You know, you would imagine, like, very few people could relate to them. And, you know, they're both beautiful movie stars, too.

Yeah, but you can find somebody that's not going to shit on your bed. Yeah, I bet you can. That's not a low bar to clear.

It's totally possible.

Yeah. Yeah, because I don't need— Like, if you ever show me that you're going to introduce chaos to my life, you gone. I don't got time for that.

Right. Yeah, you got to know when.

How many bathrooms we got in the house, bitch? You're shitting on the bed.

What kind of drugs are they doing?

Oh, man.

Probably going to shit your bed drugs.

The best drugs, yeah.

For sure. I mean, that dude's pals with Keith Richards. It's just, you know, publicly to see something like that is so— The thing about it is, though, you know it happens. You know people are nuts. You know people have nutty relationships and nutty fights.

And I don't even think it was really about the money.

It was like, I beat you. You know? Yeah. Well, I think she ruined his career. I think he was getting kicked off of movies because he was being called an abuser.

I mean, this is my conclusion from all of it. Because, you know, the documentary came on Netflix, too, right, about it?

I didn't see the documentary.

Yeah, is that she is definitely an abuser. And he is probably an abuser.

But, yeah, but— I don't know. Also, you've got to think that the way he behaves with her, if she's abusing him, is different than the way he behaves if someone's not abusing him.

But also, man, like, you've been in a relationship with crazy people. It's like they learn how to pull the crazy out of you, so they can say—you know what I mean? So it's like if you're in a—if you were a person like that long enough, they know exactly how to make you act crazy, so they can turn around and go, he's lost his mind, you know? Yeah.

Is that what she said to him?

Yeah, like, I don't know the exact words on the recording, but that was the sentiment of like, oh, Johnny, you going to tell people I hit you? And if they believe you, you going to tell them you're getting beat up by a little pussy? Like, that's how she was talking to him. You got the recording, Jamie? I guess I could try.

I get it. At that point, you got to—.

Yeah, and I don't have no tape from her of him talking like that. Right. So I'm like, you know, I know that's how abusers talk. That's how somebody would talk of you if they were like just an abusive parent or anybody. You tell anybody and you know what's going to happen.

The thing is, she's not really good.

At acting?

Yeah. She's good. You know what I'm saying? But she's not Daniel Day-Lewis good.

Well, no. Nobody is. Right?

So if Daniel Day-Lewis could lie to me, I'd be like, damn, he really is from 1400.. He had a fucking time machine, Brian. I met a guy with a time machine.

Yeah, I couldn't tell. Daniel Day-Lewis, Meryl Streep, Denzel.

Yeah, there's a few of them that could just lie right to your face. I don't think she's one of those.

Nah, she ain't got that. But she can dig deep.

I'm sure she's got some emotions she could pull out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, that's also one of the things that's fascinating about acting. is we kind of reward crazy people that are actors because they're really good at it. Like, some of the nuttiest people that I've ever met were amazing actors. Like, some of them are really good at it and they're fucking crazy.

I think you've got to be able to tap into, you know, every kind of artist is a controlled crazy. It's like you're barely holding your crazy to containing it. Yeah, you kind of got to be a little nuts just to pursue something like that.

Yes, for sure. And then also you're in this industry that, at least until recently, rewarded people for being insane. It was like it's part of the legend of guys like Jack Nicholson, a part of the legend of the greats.

That's also when they had the most fun.

Marlon Brando, out of his fucking mind, remember? He became like 300 pounds, moved to an island. Remember? He stopped acting totally.

You know, because now I hear stories and there's a photographer that took a bunch of pictures in the 90s. You know, Hollywood, underground, L.A. scene, people in a club having a bunch of fun. Because he's the only one with a camera. Nobody's got cameras, no smart phones.

You can't.

Nah, nah. Nah, the temptation to clout chase is too high.

What were we just talking about? I was going to tell you something.

Amber Heard, just after that, people in Hollywood being crazy.

Shit, I can't believe I lost it.

Marlon, Brando, Jack Nicholson?

Marlon Brando.

Oh yeah, they had little gay parties. Little gay Eyes Wide Shut parties.

I'm sure he had a lot of that. God damn it, I forget what it was now.

Marlon Brando, fat, 300 pounds?

Marlon Brando, fat, 300 pounds.

Moved to an island?

Mm-mm. And then that was it.

I'm not going to get it.

It'll come back once you stop thinking about it.

It will. What is that when that happens? That weird thing where your brain just stops thinking about the thing you were just thinking about.

No, I saw a study. Man, and I can't name the study. I probably shouldn't quote it.

Oh, now I remember what it was. Yep, there it is. There it is, thank you. This is what it was. Marlon Brando, when he won the Academy Award, did not accept the Academy Award.

What? He had. Elizabeth Warren accept his award?

Yeah, it's Elizabeth Warren went up and accepted his award. And her fucking sister ratted her out, I believe.

It'd be your own people that'd be hating.

But she's beautiful. And she's probably crazy. But if you find the video, it's kind of funny. Because, like, accepting the award for Marlon Brando. And she goes up and talks about, I think she talked about Native American genocide.

Did he know?

Sheen Littlefeather.

Littlefeather. She just calls herself Littlefeather. He didn't know.

He's, Marlon Brando.

He's on an island fucking everybody that moves. So this lady was not Native American at all. So look at the Academy Award. What's that?

I heard the Wikipedia says she's from Oxnard.

Wow.

And her sister was like, you bitch, you're not fucking Native American. Imagine, like, your sister is crazy and you hate your sister and you're always fighting. And then one day you see that bitch at the Oscars telling everybody she's an Indian.

But how does she fool everybody? She don't even look Native.

Well, watch her talk. She kind of, does. She kind of? does. I mean, she could be.

Hello. My name is Sasheen Littlefeather.

No, it's not.

And I'm president of the National Native American Affirmative Image Committee. I'm representing Marlon Brando this evening. And he has asked me to tell you in a very long speech, which I cannot share with you presently because of time. But I will be glad to share with the press afterwards that he very regretfully cannot accept this very generous award. And the reasons for this being are the treatment of American Indians today by the film industry.

Wounded Knee was quite a long time before that. Why did you say recent happenings at Wounded Knee?

There was a protest there or something.

Oh, right, right, right.

Her ancestor dispute here. Like after her death, though, which is kind of.

Oh, that's when she got busted? Her biological sisters, Rosalind Cruz and Trudy Orlandi, who say the family does not have Native American ancestry. Keeler writes that the sisters state that their father, who was born in Oxnard, California, was of Mexican descent and had no tribal ties. Nor was he related to the Yaqui tribes of northern Mexico. Furthermore, Cruz believed Littlefeather fabricated a Native identity because she thought it was more prestigious to be Native American than to be Hispanic.

Damn, Littlefeather walked, so Rachel Dulles all could run.

Yeah, well, you know, back then there was no social media. Like your friends from college couldn't tweet and go, what? Right, right. You know, that's one of the things that happened with Elizabeth Holmes, that lady who ran that Theranos scam.

Oh, man.

Who created a fake voice. That's a king scammer. Her friends from college were like, why is that bitch talking like that? They would call each other up. Right.

They got her at a party like, tada-lay, and then she gets on the stage and she's like—.

We're really excited to bring you the most amazing blood data research from a drop of blood. That story is so wild. Have you listened to the Dropout podcast series?

No.

It's really good. It's really good.

But they make some real good—there's some great documentaries on YouTube that are made by like one person, you know? Oh, yeah. That's what I learned about it.

Oh, I mean, you can do amazing stuff with your phone today and just edit it all on your phone and upload it to YouTube. It's a wild time.

You ever try that shit, though? No, I don't have time. I'm like, these kids— My kids do it. They have this shit mastered. I'm like, wait a minute.

Yeah, they don't care.

Yeah, I don't got it.

Yeah, they'll make these intricate TikTok videos that are 15 seconds and they'll work all day on it. But it's just like, you know, I mean, we're just—we're dinosaurs when it comes to that stuff.

You know, well, I'm kind of—I consider myself tech-savvy, but I'm not really social media literate, you know? Yeah, because, like, sometimes—like, I've had young people make fun of, like, the angle that I took my picture from, and I'm like, when did the rules change? You know? They tell me, oh, you take a selfie like an old man. I'm like, what does that mean?

Yeah, that's so stupid.

Yeah, and I guess there's a way that old people always hold the camera, and I guess—I don't know.

Yeah, who cares how you take pictures?

That's the weird thing about comedy, because, like, Derek and Hasan are—they're two of my closest friends, but I'm like 10 years older than them. Right. You know what I mean? So, like, they're always old manning me, you know? They're right.

Well, I'm way older than them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Than I'm around them, too. But that's just how it is. But they keep me young. Oh, they keep me—at least they let me know when I'm being lame, which is—.

Well, it's always fun to check in on the young generation. Like, what are you guys into? What does that mean? What does cap mean?

Well, yeah, because cap would also just mean lie.

Right. Yeah. Right. How'd that happen? How did cap become lie?

I don't know the origination of it, honestly.

I found out from Schultz. I heard Schultz talk about it. He goes, cap. I go, what does that mean? He goes, I call cap.

But that's the thing. See, black people have been saying cap for like 20 years.

Oh, so it's like woke.

Yeah. It's like TikTok just—TikTok has shortened the amount of time from when black people say some cool shit and then white people make it lame. You know what I mean?

Right.

It's a fucking shorter window.

Yeah, yeah.

It used to be, you know, black people would say some cool shit, and they would be, you know, pushed to the side. And then, maybe 10 years later, black parents are saying it, and so now it's lame to the black kids. But by that time, the white kids are saying it. Right? And then we already off it, and then the white parents are saying it, and now it's lame.

I'm bringing back Groovy.

Like Da Bomb. Who says that? Nobody. Right.

Who's saying Da Bomb now? White ladies.

White grandparents. Yeah.

In the middle of the Midwest.

Yeah. But that used to take like 20 years. Now it's like a year and a half. Because it hit TikTok, and it hits everybody.

You know what it's like? It's like an hourglass, but they just open up the pipe.

Yeah.

The sand flows through quicker.

Yeah. I'll have people like young people on TikTok telling me like, oh, that's not what that means. Well, that is what it means. We made it up.

Isn't that fascinating, like how quick things change now? Like cultural things change.

Yeah. The meaning of fuckboy changed quick. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, you know Ian Edwards?

The TikTok generation is like, how much attention do they have? Man. You're essentially being programmed from the time you're very young to look at something very quickly, and just get a little bit of information, move on. A little bit of information, move on.

Well, it's a bunch of people that want to be famous for free. Yeah. Because they think fame is the prize. It's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Fame sucks.

But you're looking at it as a person with talent who has a career. What they're looking at is like, hey, maybe I don't have to get a job. Yeah. Like, if I could just fucking dance around in front of my phone, maybe I'll get a job.

You know what, kids? Y'all on to something. Yeah. Because working sucks.

Working sucks.

Like, you know, I was just telling a homie this, but I don't remember ever feeling so bad about myself in life, except for the period where I was working my ass off just to make enough to go to work. Like, I only had enough money, to, you know, to eat and go to work and go home and come back. And even so, even on my days off, I couldn't do shit because I wasn't making enough money. You know what I mean? Yeah.

All the time.

But it's the opposite. also. When you don't work at all, you die in a different way. Right. You feel useless.

You feel useless and you don't get anything done.

Yeah. And you don't grow.

When you don't have a job, like you don't get anything done because you don't have any money. So you can't really do stuff. And it's just kind of at your house all day, just waiting.

But sometimes, sometimes I'll put it to you like this. I've never been envious of somebody that's being worked to death, but I've walked past some homeless people that laid out on the sidewalk, you know, and I'm like, you know what? It's something to that. Just not giving a fuck. Like wherever you are, you at home.

You could always find a public shower.

But once you're at the point where you're not rewarded for smelling good, you know? Right. Like my, life's the same whether I smell good or not.

Right.

Who knows? Yeah, you just live on the street, no matter what. You don't care what you smell like.

Well, some of them be just high as a motherfucker. They're not even out there. See, when you went into them, you see them as out there, but they're not even there. They're in the clouds.

We ran into this lady at a gas station out here, and her head was, her posture was so bad that her head hung down. Instead of staying going straight up from her shoulders, somehow or another, her neck.

had her head all the way down.

It didn't look possible. She might have legitimately had a broken neck at one point in time and didn't do anything about it.

Oh, Lord.

That's how bad it was. And this poor lady, she was probably in her 60s, or she might have been a hard 50, just cracked out of her mind, scabs everywhere, clothes dirty and disheveled, and she's just coming up to us and asking us for money. And she can't even look you in the eyes. It was just like, oh. You were someone's little baby.

She just holding a mirror like this?

She was someone's little baby. She was someone's little baby girl.

Oh, I thought you said she was holding a baby girl.

No, no, no. At one point in time, she was someone's little baby girl.

Yeah. It's been a long time since she was that.

But isn't that wild? Like, it can go so bad.

You know a wild fact that I discovered? And this is, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, fans, but I have a theory that, you know, you know how you see crackheads, like, they have a funny walk sometimes?

Yeah.

I have a theory that the people that are strung out on drugs, they walk like they still have the ass that they used to have, you know? So, like, if you see a crackhead lady, like, walking funny, picture her with a fat ass. And it makes sense.

Right. Because she still, in her mind, looks like that.

Her hips was trained on her good ass. Right. Now she on crack and then the strength and nothing, but she still got the movements. Yeah. Let's see.

You know what scares the shit out of me that I've been seeing on Instagram is anorexics. There was some anorexic lady who was dancing around on Instagram and then I told my daughter about it and she knew the girl's name, like Eugenia or something like that.

And is she, wait a minute, is this like-?

She's a famous Instagram-.

Is she famous for being an anorexic?

I believe that's part of what she's famous for, yeah. Oh, God. Because when, you know, I used to do yoga at this place. Yeah, there she is.

Oh, no, baby girl, no.

You should see the video. See if you find videos of it. Because, like when she's dancing around, like that one down there with the microphone in her hand, that's the one I saw. Like, look at this.

It's crazy, man. God damn. That wig looked like it was wearing her down.

Bro, that scares the shit out of me.

Wait a minute. Damn. Why you show me this?

Look at the bones in her hips. I mean, I used to do yoga with this lady who was an anorexic.

That's what I was saying. I was like, get her out of there.

Oh, just let her tap me. Just go ahead, get me. Oh, shit. It was this poor lady. It made me so sad.

That's why, that's way more alarming than, like, morbid obesity. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's weird.

Because that's, it seems like an easier fix.

But I think we have to realize, this is really important. We have to realize that, you know, when we judge people like that lady, or like, even like, you know, someone who's morbidly obese, like Lizzo, or someone like that. She's not morbidly, right? Is she?

No, but I would just sit here thinking, damn, I'm glad he didn't say Lizzo. That's the easy way to go. Because everybody always goes, Lizzo.

Tim Dillon. Let's say Tim Dillon.

It's like body dysmorphia. Yes, it's body dysmorphia. When you look in the mirror, you don't see what everybody else sees.

Yeah. And I think that it's not even just that they don't see it. It's just like they don't have control of what's happening. There's a bunch of factors, and everyone's like, oh, you've got control. You can go.

Or not even that. Yeah. Any of these factors. Sometimes it's one thing. One traumatic event can fuck your whole shit up.

Sure. And the point is, there's so many factors that lead to a person starving themselves to death on TikTok. Like, it's not as simple as that girl just needs to eat. It's like that. There's a problem.

Yeah.

There's something dark there.

So, fuck. This is going to fuck me. It's going to haunt me. Is she famous for being the anorexic girl?

I don't know. I just saw that video, and I brought it up to my daughter. My daughter knew her name. She knew who she was. And she pulled up videos, and she was like, it's so sad.

Especially because, like, I'm pretty sure, when your body fat percentage drops to a certain, like, it's life-threatening.

Oh, she's 100% life-threatening. Dude, it's life-threatening for sure. Starvation is one of the absolute worst things that can happen to your body, because your body starts to digest itself.

Yeah. You notice how you never hear the body-positive movement. It's never like, just because she's that skinny. don't mean she ain't healthy. Right.

There's no body-positivity movement for not eating. No.

Hell no.

According to Wikipedia, this is her first video that went viral, like, 10 years ago, on WorldStarHipHop.

Okay. So then she looks just thin.

Yeah, but she looks like her mom and dad would probably be like, you need to eat, baby. That's when it's not an emergency.

She's very thin, but she also looks like she's frail-framed. Right, right. She's a small person.

A little framed, but she still looks healthy.

Yeah. Between that and what she's at now, look, you could see, like, her legs. You don't see these bones poking out everywhere.

Right, right.

It's mental illness, man. I mean, it's 100% mental illness.

Especially when you got a twerk from the knees, play that. She twerking from the knees.

Well, she doesn't have a lot to work with. No. I mean, she's a tiny lady. She's so frail. But to see her like that, like, it's just any anorexia.

Yeah, because how do you cure anorexia? Has anyone cured it?

Yes. Yeah, people have bounced back from it. I don't know what they have to do to bounce back from it. And maybe, you know, I think a lot of it gets exacerbated by, you know, models. Like, they have to starve themselves.

Well, when your relationship with food is compromised, I think that might be the most dangerous. Like, even the opposite, like the food addiction. It's like when your drug is food.

Yeah.

That feels like such a, because you can't quit food. Right. You know, it would almost be like if you had to do a little heroin every day and you had a heroin problem. Yes. You know, like, you got to eat.

Right. You have to. It's the only addiction that you can't ever just abstain from.

Right, right. So that's tough. But then what is this? Is it like the signal? Like, something's fucked up with the chain of events that happens when you put food in your mouth.

I think for this lady, I mean, who knows what led her down to being a skeleton, but it's like they think that thinner is better. Just like when women have like crazy implants.

Or like just super gigantic.

Super gigantic, triple Z implants.

Like Nancy Pelosi.

Yeah. Big ol' knockers. Like, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? You know, they don't see it.

Plastic surgery reveals so much. Yeah. The big one now is like the lip injections. And you see some people be like, you know that don't look. Right.

But your face has symmetry to it. There's like a certain ratio. Like the distance between the eyes and the length of the nose, and where the chin is. And when one of those things is off, your brain is going, why's your nose a little.

But also, like, there's wrinkles on your bottom lip. So when you get too much of a lip injection, it looks smooth. Your lip looks smooth. So it looks swollen. Right.

Right.

You know? Right. It's like, why are your lips smooth, bitch? That's weird. Why are they so shiny and stretched?

Right. I never thought of that part.

Yeah, it looks weird to me.

The lip thing doesn't work. It's like we went for boobs, and they're like, okay, what about lips? Let's try lips. Everybody likes full lips. And they tried it, but it's like, that's your face.

Some people haven't nailed it.

But you got to be careful not to get crazy. You don't want to be the skeleton lady. You know what I mean? Right. You don't want to be obese.

And I just feel like, if she's been like this for that long, don't they get to the point where they fuck up their esophagus from throwing up?

I don't think she's eating. She's probably barely alive, man. When you're that little, I mean, essentially her body has deteriorated, right? Like you're not seeing anything but the bones, all the hip bones and everything like that. You don't see any meat.

But let's be honest. She looked like she was having a blast. I mean, it's easy to look like that for 15 seconds when you're shooting a video.

She probably had to sleep for 11 hours. after that video. She probably has zero energy.

How's she making money from being an influencer?

I guess so.

I don't know. But what product is?

None. Ads, maybe. People just look.

She has hundreds of thousands of followers. She was up for YouTuber of the Year in 2020.. How? I've never heard of her. I don't know her.

YouTuber of the Year.

Her YouTube might be fire, though.

It might be. Why are we judging? We haven't even watched any of these amazing videos.

She's got over 2 million followers. No, bro.

I think it's a sweepstakes. People are betting money on when she's going to eat. And she just teases them every week. She just puts the ceiling right here.

I hope she gets better.

I do, too, man.

I really do.

How old is that girl? Almost 30..

When you lose that kind of weight and get that thin, that has to be. Let's Google anorexia and its detrimental health effects on the human body. It's got to be horrific. Because I know weight cutting is absolutely brutal for these fighters. But that's severe dehydration, which is not quite the same thing.

Oh, yeah. Well, I remember when I— See, I never got to see it up close until we went to fight week. And I was like, oh, damn. You got to leave these motherfuckers alone. Yeah.

Well, they did. They rescued them from death. They legitimately are at death's door. Okay, this is. complications of anorexia include anemia, heart problems such as mitral valve prolapse, abnormal heart rhythms or heart failure, bone loss, osteoporosis, increasing the risk of fractures, loss of muscle in females, absence of period in males, decreased testosterone, gastrointestinal problems such as constipation, bloating, or nausea, electrolyte abnormalities such as low blood, potassium, sodium and chloride, and kidney problems.

Hmm.

And how many of the men who have anorexia are gay men?

Hmm. I think, I mean, it might be a problem, but—.

I bet it's very few men have anorexia.

Well, but I think that's starting to change, right, because right now—.

People are non-binary.

No, but right now Pete Davidson is a sex symbol. Pete Davidson and Machine Gun Kelly, like young white women, love the, you know, the sick looking—.

Sort of.

Like the real malnourished looking guys.

Sort of, until Jason Momoa shows up.

Well, right, right. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is—.

When your eggs start talking.

What I'm saying is more guys, don't mind, because men do what gets them laid. Yeah. You know, and so it's like, that's why there's not very many anorexic men.

Yeah, but they're not going to try that hard to stop eating.

Anorexia. I bet you, a lot of men in the model industry are probably anorexic.

I would think they would have to be fit.

No, because what they do, but you don't have to look like her to be anorexic.

The research I'm trying to find just says there's a problem. There's a lot of—it's just general eating disorder. Right. Is big in men. Going to anorexia, I think it's tough to find.

Well, overeating is probably bigger in men. Correct.

Yeah, that's what I was even finding. The first study, they had double the amount of women responded even, but it's twice as many men said they had an eating disorder than women.

Right, but that just could be. they're addicted to eating food.

Correct. Most of it's, yeah, overeating.

So they don't have data on just anorexia?

I'm trying to find it, and I have not located it.

Why don't you Google how many men have anorexia? Just Google that. I'm curious just what the number is. I bet you it's surprisingly low.

It says percentage of anorexics are 25%.

A quarter of anorexics are men?

10 to 25%.

Okay, that's higher than what I guess.

That's higher than I would think, but what's the number of total anorexics?

I don't know, man.

It said, 10 to 25% are men? Is that what you said? Do they have to self-report?

Yeah, that's how they would have to know. you'd have to go get help for them to find out. So it's out of the sites, 20 million women and 10 million men have an eating disorder. Males make up 25% of people with anorexia.

25%. Wow. Wow.

Because they're often diagnosed later than females. They're at a higher risk of dying.

Ooh. I think that's probably true of every disease.

Yeah.

It also says it's not common in people over the age of 40..

Interesting. So it's only common when you want someone to fuck you.

Yeah. Well, I think it's probably just common when the most young impressionable. Because once you're over 40, you're like, I don't give a fuck.

Yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully, you get to the I don't give a fuck 40s. Because there's nothing sadder than someone who's, like, in their 60s and still gives a fuck.

Yeah, dude. It's like you wasted. That's the only benefit. Yeah. The only benefit.

This also adds to her. Men are likely underdiagnosed with eating disorders because clinical assessment tools emphasize a desire to lose weight as opposed to building muscle. So they might not. I mean, I guess they're asking a bunch of questions. They might ask guys the right questions.

Maybe either.

Women have a 1.5 to 7,, 5 to 3 times higher prevalence for anorexia bulimia. So bulimia might be more prevalent.