The Sunday Story: The Coal Life

2023-09-17 00:31:05

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I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is a Sunday Story.

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On this episode, we head to South Africa, an economic powerhouse on the African continent.

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For decades, South Africa's enormous electric grid has relied on coal.

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Now the country is in the midst of a massive experiment to switch to renewable energy.

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This change is expected to vastly reduce pollution, but it may also ruin towns and lives in the

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Coal Belt of South Africa.

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For some workers, it feels like the government is destroying their only foothold to a stable

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life.

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Radio Workshop is a podcast that collaborates with youth reporters at radio stations across

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Africa.

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Host Lesete Mwakle sent a youth reporter along with a senior producer to a town in the heart

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of the Coal Belt to ask the question, what will happen to people who've built their lives

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around coal?

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It's Sunday lunch at this kossana's home.

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Nontogozo lays out a feast for her family, her two children and her husband, Adam, who

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loves the pork ribs.

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I like the ribs that is done by ourselves here at home, by my wife.

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This kossana's live in Creel in the northeast of South Africa.

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Creel is a small town in an area considered the Coal Belt region.

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Its biggest employer is the coal industry.

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Look up any images of Creel on the internet and you'll see lots of pictures of huge power

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plants spewing smoke.

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This kossana's live a modest yet comfortable life here.

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They own a charming three bedroom house.

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They have a large family car.

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Their kids are in school.

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They're not struggling to make ends meet and they owe it all to coal.

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My parents are very hard workers, especially my dad.

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Also my mother.

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Ferzaga is 18 years old and she's the first person in this kossana family to attend university.

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It's a huge expense and so there's a lot riding on her.

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But Ferzaga isn't interested in a career in coal like so many other young people in this

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region.

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She believes that one day she'll be a successful lawyer.

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It's something that I always wanted to do because I didn't see myself as living in Creel

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forever.

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But when Ferzaga's mom Ntogozo was the same age, she was thrilled to get a job in the

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coal industry.

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It was luck for me.

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I was very lucky because some of the people, they never, never, never work in their entire

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lives.

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Ntogozo moved to Creel in the early 2000s, all the way from a rural village called Nongoma

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in the province of KwaZulu-Natal, where well-paid jobs for black people are hard to come by.

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At that time, Creel was among the fastest growing towns in the country.

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There were plenty of jobs, in the coal mines or at the handful of coal-fired power stations

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in the area.

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It only took Ntogozo a few months to land a job at Creel Power Station, which is operated

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by South Africa's state-owned power utility, Eskom.

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Ntogozo was hired as a cleaning supervisor.

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She also clearly remembers the day and exact time she met her husband, Adam, while working

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at the plant 20 years ago.

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Do you remember the day you met him?

1Speaker 1
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It was on Saturday, around half past eleven.

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Really?

3Speaker 3
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Hey, mama, how are you?

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Very well.

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And he said, hi, my name is Boye.

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Back then, Adam went by Boye, that's his first name.

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But now, as a father of two, he prefers to be called by his middle name, Adam.

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Adam was born in Creel, on a farm on the outskirts of town.

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In grade 10, he dropped out of high school.

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He was 19 then, but he easily found a job at the Creel Power Station in 1984, as a fitter.

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Adam maintained and serviced the station's water treatment equipment.

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I'm 58 years old now, and I'm still working at Creel Power Station.

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But that could be over pretty soon.

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A sweeping change is about to engulf all of Creel, and South Africa, and the rest of the world.

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There's a radical transition coming to the energy industry, and so it didn't take long

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for this Kausana Sunday lunch conversation to shift from food to the closure of the power station.

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The proposal is that Creel is closing down in 2030.

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So how many, it's seven years gone.

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The government's seen it, on the newspapers.

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South Africa's the biggest polluter of greenhouse gases on the African continent.

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Nearly 80% of the emissions come from energy.

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But if all goes according to plan, the entire energy sector in South Africa will be rewired.

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Renewable energy will replace coal, a transition intended to dramatically reduce carbon emissions.

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And it's inevitable.

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Coal is going away.

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But what happens to the people who have built their lives on coal?

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The world is watching to see how Creel, and families like the Kausanas, are going to do it.

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In the best-case scenario, South Africa's drive towards renewable energy will deliver

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new and better jobs.

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It'll protect the environment.

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It'll make energy cheaper.

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People will have their voices heard.

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And some of the wounds they've suffered in the past will be healed.

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Experts call that a just transition.

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But Adam doubts the transition will succeed.

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He says there won't be new jobs.

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What do you think will happen to this town if the coal mines and the power stations shut down?

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It's going to be a ghost town.

2Speaker 2
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Adam's not alone in thinking this.

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A lot of people are worried that they've already been forgotten.

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I'm Lisette Mokwate.

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This is Radio Workshop.

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To tell this story, producer Darshan Moodley and reporter Sia Mokwena spent several days

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in Creel.

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And they had one central question in mind during their reporting.

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What do you think will happen to your family without coal?

5Speaker 5
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Ish, I can't even answer it because our life is surrounded by coal.

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Yeah, it's going to be very hard.

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It's going to be very hard.

2Speaker 2
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Every morning, for decades, before he leaves for work at the power plant, Adam puts on

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his PPE.

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That's personal protection equipment.

3Speaker 3
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It is gumboots, socks, trousers and a top.

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He grabs a bus, arrives a few minutes early, has a cup of tea, puts on his hard hat and

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gloves and starts work at 7 a.m.

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Adam's had a lot of different jobs at the power plant.

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After a few years in one division, he'd get a promotion.

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A few years later, he'd get another.

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Today, he works with coal ash.

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That's one of the byproducts from burning coal.

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It's Adam's job to prevent it from escaping into the atmosphere.

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Because we are not supposed to pollute a lot of ash.

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When Creel Power Station was completed in 1979, it was celebrated as the first of the

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new generation of giants.

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It was the largest coal-fired power station in the Southern Hemisphere.

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It was equipped with six 500-megawatt units.

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That could power over a million homes for a year.

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Adam loves working at the Creel Power Station.

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The work may be hard and he knows it's bad for the environment.

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But his job is well paid.

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He also receives good benefits for his family.

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Are you good at your job?

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I like my job.

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I know my job as I know myself.

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I know my job as I know myself, Adam says.

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As the Skosanas mentioned earlier, the plant where they work is slated to close in 2030,

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in just seven years.

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In fact, the plant is already shrinking its operations.

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And other plants in the region have already closed.

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The government promises a just transition.

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They say new jobs will be created in renewable energy projects to replace the coal plants.

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But the community is worried it won't happen.

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And Adam says people are already moving away.

3Speaker 3
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How many people do you know have left Creel?

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A lot.

6Speaker 6
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Really?

3Speaker 3
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Yeah.

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And where do they go?

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Cape Town.

3Speaker 3
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Almost they are going to Cape Town.

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Cape Town.

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Cape Town.

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Mecklenburg.

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Free State.

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Overseas.

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Nowadays they are going to Australia.

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Australia, New Zealand.

2Speaker 2
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The government has hosted dozens of community meetings to explain the just transition.

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But we found some residents don't show up because they are held in the middle of the day.

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Others don't trust the government and refuse to go.

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And frankly, a lot of people we've spoken to hadn't even heard the term just transition, including Adam.

3Speaker 3
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What does the just transition mean to you?

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That word, it's a new word to me, but I know this one, it's a little bit difficult for me to answer.

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Were we the first people to tell you about just transition or had you heard it before?

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No, it was my first time.

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What impact do you think it's going to have on you and your family with this just transition going through?

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Well, I really don't know.

?Unknown Speaker
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I really don't know.

2Speaker 2
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Adam also doubts whether renewables will work, but he thinks the country should give it a shot.

3Speaker 3
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I think they can try, try this new renewable energy.

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I know coal, carbon is affecting our lives.

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What I can say maybe, let them try to accommodate both of them, balance them and see if it's going to work or not.

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Unlike just taking coal away on the spot.

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That one is going to affect a lot of people because people are going to lose their jobs as they are losing jobs right now.

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And where are they going to work?

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That's the biggest problem that we are facing right now.

2Speaker 2
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Fezega, Adam's daughter, says the just transition could be a good thing for the environment.

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But tens of thousands of people will lose their jobs.

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She worries about finding work to support her family.

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Her mom no longer works and her dad will have to retire in seven years.

4Speaker 4
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They will have to rely on me and I'm still in school.

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That means I'll have to drop out and get a job then.

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It's devastating.

1Speaker 1
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We're back with The Sunday Story.

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We're listening to Lesede Mwakle and her team at Radio Workshop in South Africa

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tell the story of a family from a mining town east of Johannesburg.

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The family and the town are trying to understand their future as the mine prepares to close

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amid the country's transition away from fossil fuels.

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Here's Lesede.

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Adam hopes the just transition will force the coal mining industry

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to give back the land it appropriated when coal was in high demand.

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For generations, Adam's family lived on a huge farm on the outskirts of Creel.

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He offers to take us there.

3Speaker 3
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So, where are we going, Adam?

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We are going on a farm now.

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Torontine Farm. 71-AS.

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It's the name of the farm and the number.

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How often do you make this drive to the farm? How often do you go?

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Maybe, per month, I will go there twice or three times.

2Speaker 2
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The farm, or what's left of it, is at the end of a long dirt road

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that's completely inaccessible with a regular car.

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Fortunately, Adam has a 4x4 SUV.

3Speaker 3
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The farm goes up there to these other trees there,

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and it's all around, all around, all around.

2Speaker 2
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The farm is a patch of land fenced in by rusty barbed wire

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surrounded by hectares of rolling grasslands.

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Cattle roam about in the distance, and there's a lone tree.

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Beneath it, a corrugated iron shack that serves as housing for farm workers.

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It has no piped water or electricity.

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Even though Adam has access to the area, it's no longer his family's land.

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It's owned by a coal mine.

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When Adam's family lived here, they were considered labor tenants.

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They worked in exchange for a portion of the land.

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They raised cattle, grew crops, and built their homes.

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But when a mining company bought the land,

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the Skosanas were never made part of the deal.

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The land they'd worked so hard for was simply taken away.

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Okay.

3Speaker 3
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This empty land, that's what we call home.

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We are now at home.

2Speaker 2
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Adam was raised on the farm by his parents and extended family.

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He remembers seeing his uncles, aunts, and grandparents every day.

3Speaker 3
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It's one, two, three, four, five, seven.

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Seven houses from our family.

2Speaker 2
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Many of his ancestors are also buried here too.

3Speaker 3
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This one here is my grandmother.

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Sophie. Sophie Skosana.

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This one is my grandfather. His name is Janchi Skosana.

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He died in 1975.

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This one is his brother.

2Speaker 2
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There are so many graves.

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Some are marked with tombstones, others are not.

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What it shows is a connection to this area, dating back to the 1800s.

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That's six generations of Adam's family who've lived in Creel.

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Some of them were the first farmers and herders in the area.

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Adam's father was a farmer before becoming a contract worker at Eskom.

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He poured concrete to build the foundations of the town's power stations.

3Speaker 3
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There was also a house there.

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Starting from here.

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Somewhere around here it was a kitchen.

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In here it was my father's room.

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It was a dining room.

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It was my sister's room.

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Somewhere here.

2Speaker 2
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You can see it on his face.

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Adam longs for that time in his life.

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He wants to go back to living on the farm.

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But when the coal mine bought the land,

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they heavily blasted the area to reach the coal underneath.

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And as a result, his family's mud and brick houses cracked and collapsed.

3Speaker 3
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How does it feel being here?

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You know, I remember how the buildings were.

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It's painful.

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It's painful.

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The land.

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Where is this?

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Okay.

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It's a little bit mixed up now.

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But it's in there.

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It should be here.

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Yes.

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In front of me I've got the documents

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concerning the claim of the farm, Torfantin 71.

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That's where we were born and bred.

2Speaker 2
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Adam says a just transition will mean the return of his land.

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But that fight has been going on for almost half his life.

3Speaker 3
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The proof that I have, I think, is this one.

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The first claim that has been done.

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The first one was in 1996.

2Speaker 2
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Adam believes he has all the necessary paperwork to prove his family's claim.

3Speaker 3
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It's just that my papers are mixed up now.

2Speaker 2
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He even hired a lawyer to make the case.

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But Adam says whenever he's spoken with representatives at the mines,

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they deny his ownership.

3Speaker 3
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So the mine is saying they don't owe you anything?

2Speaker 2
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Thousands of miles from Creel and the Skosannas,

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France, Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States,

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along with the European Union,

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are backing South Africa's decarbonisation efforts.

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They are committing $8.5 billion

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towards the first phase of transition to renewables.

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It sounds like a lot,

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but it's only a fraction of what the country needs

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to turn off coal and shift to renewables.

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A lot more money is needed to create jobs

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to absorb the layoffs that will happen in coal.

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Money will be needed to consult with communities

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and provide social welfare for those who need it.

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And money will be needed for one more thing.

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In South Africa, we call it restorative justice,

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so people like Adam get back what was taken from them.

6Speaker 6
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And that's where we're saying,

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how do we deal with the historical injustice?

2Speaker 2
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Gaylo Montmartin-Clerc is a senior economist

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at Trade and Industrial Policy Strategies.

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It's a research institute

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that supports the development of economic policies.

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Gaylo leads their work on the just transition

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and restorative justice.

6Speaker 6
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And that is something that's come very strongly

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in the South African context,

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which doesn't feature in the global north context.

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They don't talk about restorative justice in the global north.

2Speaker 2
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Gaylo wrote parts of South Africa's just transition framework.

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That's government's planning tool.

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He says in a perfect world,

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the plan is to leave no one behind.

6Speaker 6
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Leave no one behind.

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I'm like, hello?

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Most people are behind.

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They're already behind.

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It's not just about leaving no one behind.

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We have to bring everyone already to some level

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before we can take them along.

2Speaker 2
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Which means a just transition would need to address

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those past injustices while tackling new ones.

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That's a big, nearly impossible task, he says.

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Take Adam's land claims case.

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It was lodged almost two decades ago.

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Nothing has happened.

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Much of it is due to the backlog of claims

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and the lack of staff and resources to process it.

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Claims go on for years due to disputes, fraud and corruption.

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Gaylo says he witnessed the frustrations with government firsthand

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at a public stakeholder meeting in a coal town.

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He watched residents grab the mic to raise all kinds of complaints,

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from housing to water.

6Speaker 6
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It was all about daily issues.

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It was like, your just transition feels very distant to me right now

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because I can't put bread on the table,

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I don't have water, I don't have electricity,

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and you're talking to me about just transition.

2Speaker 2
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We wanted to know about the future of Creole

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and the future of jobs.

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Will there be enough?

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We approached local politicians in Creole.

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We reached out to a few academics working on renewables.

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We made several attempts to speak to ESCOM,

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the state-owned power utility.

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None of them were willing to talk to us.

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So we asked Gaylo,

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will renewable energy create enough jobs

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to replace 90,000 coal jobs in South Africa?

6Speaker 6
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There's no silver bullet to that.

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No, there's not.

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No single industry is going to replace all those jobs.

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And on top of that, then we would end up with the same pattern.

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Another kind of mono-economy, it's not what we want.

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We need to look at diversifying the economy of the province.

2Speaker 2
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And it's not renewables either?

6Speaker 6
22:48.70 – 22:53.22

So, renewable energy will play a part.

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But let me be clear,

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the notion that everyone employed in coal

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must now work in renewable energy

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makes no sense.

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None whatsoever.

3Speaker 3
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Why?

6Speaker 6
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Very different type of jobs.

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Very different type of skills.

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Very different locations.

2Speaker 2
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Gaylo says only 2% of renewable energy jobs

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will be created in and around Creole.

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And those jobs are not on par with coal jobs.

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But Gaylo says there's still hope.

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In his view, it starts with shutting down coal mines immediately

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and then hiring those retrenched coal workers

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to rehabilitate the land.

6Speaker 6
23:36.38 – 23:38.52

Mine rehabilitation can create a lot of jobs.

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Jobs that cannot be created anywhere else

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because they have to be on the mine.

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It doesn't take huge amounts of skills

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and it can really start to create virtuous cycles

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in terms of rehabilitating the land, the water.

2Speaker 2
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Gaylo says other opportunities exist for towns like Creole.

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From manufacturing to agriculture and tourism.

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Even coal ash, the by-product of burning coal,

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can be used to make bricks and fertilizer.

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He says there's major job opportunities

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once government starts to think out of the box.

6Speaker 6
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Let's do things.

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We'll get it wrong, but let's do things.

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Let's start.

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If we wait for the perfect plan, the perfect project

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that ticks all the boxes,

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we're never going to get anything done.

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But now I feel like we're waiting for that unicorn.

4Speaker 4
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To my room.

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In my room.

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I consider my room the best room in this house.

2Speaker 2
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Back at home with the Skosanas,

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and Fezeka shows us her bedroom,

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there are a few photographs from high school.

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A teddy bear on the bed,

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a small desk built by her dad,

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and then on a shelf above her window

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where it can't be mishandled or broken.

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She keeps her most prized possession.

4Speaker 4
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Yeah, but my rock collection is up there.

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I can't take it down.

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I really love that rock.

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And then there are also these ones here.

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But then these ones, I love them because they change colors.

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I just love the rock.

2Speaker 2
25:16.16 – 25:18.12

Before deciding to study law,

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Fezeka considered following in her dad's footsteps

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to work in the mines.

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She wanted to be a geologist,

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but she changed her mind.

4Speaker 4
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Law is a very broad career.

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That's when I was interested.

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And the more I heard my dad saying,

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I'm going to look at this lawyer because of this matter.

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I'm going to look at this lawyer.

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Oh, another trial.

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What's what?

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Justice is not served.

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And then I was like, oh, why don't I pursue law?

2Speaker 2
25:46.34 – 25:49.22

Fezeka worries about whether her father will receive justice.

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She thinks it's fair that he gets his land back.

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But the government process takes so long

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that people die while waiting for their land claims to be settled.

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And in the midst of all those delays in justice,

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young people are looking outside Creole for opportunities to succeed.

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And Fezeka fears the worst.

3Speaker 3
26:08.42 – 26:10.38

Do you think Creole will become a ghost town?

4Speaker 4
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Definitely. If that happens, definitely.

2Speaker 2
26:13.92 – 26:15.30

Fezeka's mom, Ndogozo,

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isn't certain that law is a good career choice for Fezeka's personality.

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But she is certain that she wants her daughter to keep away from jobs in mining.

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Ndogozo doesn't see a future for Fezeka and her sons, Pumelelo, if they stay.

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Yeah, you must let them go.

3Speaker 3
27:24.74 – 27:32.78

If the power station closes, and if the coal mines go away, where will you go?

5Speaker 5
27:34.18 – 27:38.32

We have no choice because he is original from Creole.

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He's original from Creole, so we have to go back to the farm.

3Speaker 3
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Okay, next time.

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But otherwise, we'll see you next time.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you so much.

2Speaker 2
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It was time for the family to drive Fezeka back to university.

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It's a long ride, several hours.

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They'd only be back by nightfall,

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and so our reporters Sia and Darshan say their goodbyes to the Kosanas.

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I want to be remembered.

3Speaker 3
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No, we'll never forget you.

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Is it?

2Speaker 2
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But as our team were leaving, they were left thinking about something Adam said.

3Speaker 3
28:18.66 – 28:22.74

So if your family story started as farmers,

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and then the second story is coal,

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what's the next story?

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Okay, as they are talking about this renewable,

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maybe, maybe.

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I'm not 100% correct.

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Maybe they will be there.

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And Fezeka, maybe it's going to be law.

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Maybe that's the new family business.

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Yes, it can be.

2Speaker 2
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This story was produced by our senior producer, Darshan Moodley.

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