The conspiracy theories surrounding Trump’s assassination

2024-07-26 00:58:53

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to Nurses Out Loud on America Out Loud Talk Radio. I am your host, Nurse, Michelle. Today is the Nurses Q&A, but we're going to have some fun today and instead of doing questions, we're going to be analyzing what all has gone down since Trump's failed assassination attempt on July 13th, where thousands had gathered Butler, Pennsylvania at a farm show, which is roughly about a 100 acre fairground used for agricultural exhibitions, and of course, they were excited to see former President Trump, who had come there before and spoken at that same location in the past, I did not know that actually, but Butler County had voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2020, so the crowd was expected to be a friendly crowd, but things took a sudden deadly turn minutes after the former president began speaking. So the first thing I was going to do today with everybody is go over the CBS News timeline of the events, how they depict what went down, and then we can start going through the different conspiracy theories and ideas that have been thrown out since that time, because it just seems like every possible thing has been going on, with all kinds of mysteries surrounding it, and then we also had President Biden stepping down as well, so that is something we're going to address as well. So being that America Out Loud is an uncensored platform, we can freely speak here about any of the conspiracy theories and the most crazy ideas that are out there that maybe you've heard already, we're going to discuss it, because we can provide that for our audience without worrying about censorship, and after all, these are some serious historic events, and I want to go ahead and welcome Melissa here with me right now, and we may have some other nurses jump in on the show, but until then, you and I can start this off.

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Hasn't it been a crazy?

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week since this has happened? I agree with you. You cannot make this stuff up, and there's more and more things coming out, and it's just unbelievable, so I think that there is so.

1Speaker 1
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much that we can unpack today. Oh yeah. Okay, so let me just start with going over the timeline. I'm just going to do it for the audience so everybody can know what happened on the 13th, okay? So at 551, Secret Service is notified of a suspicious person, apparently, and at 552, Secret Service shares information about a suspicious person.

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603, Trump takes the stage. 609, people alert officers to the gunman, and we've seen a lot of video footage from that, and around 611, at the 21 second mark to the 32 second mark, an officer walks around the building, and people spot the shooter and start to flee. They're panicking, and we've seen some of those videos, and then at 611, at the 33 second mark, the first shot is fired. As Trump was talking about immigration, the first shot from the world would-be assassin was heard, and at 611, at the 34 second mark, two more shots were fired, and then at the 37 mark, more shots were heard. So three seconds later, several rapid gunshots are heard.

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At least three more shots were fired, followed by what sounded like an outgoing shot as the crowd erupted into screams. Video recorded by a member of the audience shows Secret Service snipers appearing to aim in the direction of the gunman. A final shot is heard. 15 seconds later. The Secret Service sniper, who neutralized the gunman, fired one round and was assisted by a spotter.

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According to federal law enforcement officials, with knowledge of the response to the shooting, it was not immediately clear which of the shots heard in the video was the one that took out the gunman. Secret Service agents surrounded Trump, who was grazed in the ear, as blood ran down his face. It took a minute and a half to get the former president off the stage. So that was quite a bit of interesting stuff that went down, you know, while he was on the ground. At 614 p.m., Trump leaves the rally site.

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So how many minutes was that? 11 from 611 to 14 that passed before he actually leaves the rally site. And at 640 p.m., the emergency room was cleared and Trump began receiving treatment, according to three sources. At 813 p.m., President Biden speaks out against violence. Okay, and then it says at 842 p.m., Trump posts that he's been shot in the ear.

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And at 850 p.m., Trump leaves the hospital, and by 1030 p.m., the crime scene investigation was turned over to the FBI. It goes on, and we can go ahead and just do this really quick. At 1049 p.m., Trump arrives at the airport, and at 1121 p.m., Trump heads to New Jersey, and at 120 a.m. Sunday, FBI identifies the gunman. And I stayed up pretty late that night, making sure to get content out as it was coming out, and do remember posting that Crooks had been identified.

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So I think that that is some interesting part of the timeline. But at 736 a.m. on that morning, Trump thanks the people for their prayers, and by 1020 a.m., Melania calls the shooter a monster. And at 209 p.m., Trump says he's going to Milwaukee. And then by 8 p.m.

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on that next day, Biden is in the Oval Office with an address to the nation on the topic. So Monday, Trump officially gets a GOP presidential nomination at the RNC by 4 p.m. So he's the presumptive nominee on the event of this shooting. And within 48 hours later, he is the presidential nominee with his gigantic Band-Aid on his ear. So that is our timeline that we can work with.

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And I'm going to, after I'm doing that, I'm going to let you go ahead, Melissa, and just start where you want to go, where your first interest point was, maybe on the night of when you first heard about it, what you thought was.

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your first red flags that stood out to you. Oh, let me see. There is so much. But I do kind of want to start, like you did, with the timeline and also out of all of the things that don't make sense. And I almost feel like you need to be a conspiracy theorist just to think that some random 20-year-old man acting alone somehow was able to outsmart the Secret Service.

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And again, do I believe that there is incompetence within the Secret Service? Yes. But do I believe that they're incompetent to this measure? No. And about.

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there are reports of one hour before the shooting, there's actually video footage of the assassin, Matthew Crooks, walking around that building and looking up. And there's also multiple accounts of video footage of people in the crowd videotaping the assassin on the roof with a rifle and calling for police. And this happened, I think this was maybe 10 minutes or so before shots were fired. But how is just a regular lay person with no special forces training, how are they able to spot an assassin on a roof? But then, you know, Secret Service, they just have no idea.

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They just don't see him. And then the Secret Service shot the guy in the head, right? But only after he, how many?

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shots. was that, Michelle, was it five shots? It was a total of five that they just reviewed.

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It was five shots. Trump goes down and then they immediately shoot him. Are we really buying this, that Secret Service, they just didn't know? And then the shots were firing, and then, in a matter of seconds, they found him and shot him dead? Or do we think that they probably knew exactly where?

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he was the entire time? Okay. So that opens up one theory right there. So I'm going to go with that one for the moment. So, according to what happened later with the head of the Secret Service, but she actually said they didn't put any agents on the roof where the shooter was because of the slope.

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We had to hear the slope theory problem. And regarding the slopes, the first thing that stood out to me was all the video footage has him kind of creeping up the roof from the lower area of the roof, and he never quite makes it to the point of the roof. And somebody makes a very valid point that you can't see actually where the president is until you get to the point of the roof. So you know, you're on a slope, you're on the backside of the slope. So how could you even make a straight angle at it?

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And let's also bring to the attention of the audience, who may or may not know, the boy's only 20 years old. Okay. So he just graduated high school two years prior. I don't know if he had sniper training in his teenage years by some kind of military experience that he may have had in high school. But everything that looks at his high school experience looks like he's a high academic, that he's kind of, that.

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people reported that he was more of a nerdy type, not the, I'm part of the ROTC in my public high school. So that was an interesting tidbit to say, okay, so in two years, you become such an expert shooter that you successfully get that close to nearly taking out Donald Trump, which will bring up the next point about the fact that he tilted his head just at apparently the right moment, right? So we've got a 20-year-old young fella that doesn't look overly buff and strong up on the top of the roof. And he supposedly was able to take that shot and be seen by the other guys, not ever making it to the top of the roof. Because even when they showed us the aftermath, the blood and the carnage of where the photos were, you know, when the police are standing up over his body, he's still not at the point of the top of the roof.

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Did you notice that as well? Yes. So that was one of the shockers for me when I heard how young he was. And I thought it was interesting that the first thing some of the extremely left people wanted to put out was, oh, he's a registered Republican. I'm like, well, how in the world can people find that so fast?

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But sure enough, he was registered as a Republican. But thankfully for the other good sleuths that are out there, they were able to discover that on the day Joe Biden was, on his day of inauguration, which I assume was later in January, Crooks donated $15 to Act Blue for Joe Biden. So that kind of doesn't jive with. I'm a Republican. And then also there was some citations that showed that he had involved himself with Antifa as well.

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So it looks like he was acting more as a blue Democrat, let's say, very leftist, radical behavior. I don't know how many people have dug more up on that topic. But there's that little detail that is like, let's make this a divisive topic and first come out and say, he's a Republican. Okay, so that was what about that?

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for you, Melissa? Well, they need to get those talking points in. And did you hear that about one third of Democrats believe that this whole situation was staged, even though there was one fatality? And also, if you were just to Google, the Trump assassination, you're going to get all of these fact checkers saying that there's conspiracy theories, that this was an inside operation, and none of that's true. But, you know, I think a lot of these mainstream media sources, I don't think it's a coincidence that they seem to just parrot the same talking points over and over.

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And they also, in a way, discourage listeners from actually thinking about things and doing critical thinking, and they engage in gaslighting the public, like you're crazy, if you think that, but how is it possible? I mean, this is supposed to be the highest security in the world. And we really think we're expected to believe that some random 20 year old kid is just going to outsmart them all and try to take out Donald Trump. And what is something that I think is just remarkable, and I very much so believe that this was divine intervention. The split second that those shots were made, at that moment, he just happened to turn his head in the perfect angle to where it would just graze his ear.

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And, you know, when I initially heard about the assassination attempt, I was maybe assuming that maybe it was a bad shot. But the kid had a perfect shot. If Trump had not moved his head to that angle, it would have been fatal.

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Okay, so I'm gonna spin off that one. I'm gonna do the devil's advocate side on that one. Okay. So we've seen the footage, I've seen the video of where it looks like you can see the bullet literally going through the air. And somebody else revealed a video that you can actually see it going through his ear.

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And if I can get that citation, I'll make sure to put it inside the show notes so people can get a view of that as well. And so that's quite impressive that we're at the point where we have technology that can show the bullet going through his ear, and then other people showed where it was behind his head. And you can see it midair and it heads toward the person behind Trump and it kills the firefighter instead. So that is very impressive. And it does appear that, my word, this is like providence of him tilting his head right at that exact moment.

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So let me just tilt it and give you another potential. We live in a day and age where you can make a video look like an entire city that you know is being flooded by the entire ocean, right? Or that a boat is coming up on the shore, and it actually isn't. We watch movies all the time that things look extremely realistic. So what is the chances, I'm just going to put it out there for the audience, that any video footage that we've seen that shows a bullet going through his ear is actually authentic.

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So that's one of the conspiracies out there, right? That's one of the things that people are posing. that it didn't really happen, and it's not possible for some young whippersnapper to pull off a shot like that. So then it poses, okay, so are the FBI agents, are they the ones that are the bad guys? Did an FBI agent actually take the shot?

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And it looks more like a skilled shot. So let's first go with. it's a legitimate shot. A real bullet was fired because a couple of days later there was news that somebody was seen on the top of a water tower and people witnessed it, and it's recorded, and they saw him coming down a zipline to a vehicle and the tag was identified as an FBI vehicle and this person got away. So the theory on that one is there is another shooter and Crooks is a patsy for another Kennedy kind of moment happening that a corrupt government or corrupt FBI system is looking to remove the opponent that they want to stay, the opponent of the person.

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they want to stay in office. So what do you think about that one from the water tower? Let's go with that one first. What are your thoughts on that?

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So I have not looked in that much to the suspected second shooter on the water tower, but it wouldn't surprise me, and I still think that there's so much that we don't know. And another thing I wanted to mention is didn't they find a detonator with Crooks?

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Yeah, I think inside of his vehicle there was very suspicious in his vehicle. So I don't know if they've continued to keep us paying attention to that detail, because what happens pretty quickly after this is Joe Biden, right? Him stepping down. So now, all of a sudden, the news is being flooded, with Joe Biden stepping down and Kamala Harris stepping up. So that's a diversion, but the people are still paying attention to what went down on the Trump assassination.

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And a lot of people on the conservative side are definitely showing their side, believing that Trump was saved by God, that God himself providentially tilted his head at just the right moment. because if that bullet had gone in the trajectory direction it was going, it should have gone through his brain and killed him and taken him out right there. So, assuming there really was a bullet that really did come through the air, the trajectory of that, the alleged bullet that allegedly went through his ear.

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is something that would have been a kill shot and he was saved. So that is what I'm mostly hearing from people that are like us in the conservative arena. But this was something that stood out to me the first time I watched it. And you tell me what you think about this. When he, you know, he smacks his face pretty fast, like you can tell.

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this is so auto response that he clearly experienced suffering of some kind, something that made him do it. But others have said, you know, was that first shot, the one that was the cue to do it? And that was something he knew to do, like he was in on his own assassination attempt or something like that, which looks ridiculous when it comes to the possibility of the hole in the ear, right? But what stood out to me second was that he was on the ground underneath those men and women quite a while. Now, the CBS News said it was a minute and a half before they took him off the stage.

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But it made me think when I was watching it the first time that, oh gosh, he's really hurt. They're down there taking care of the stabilizing him to get him off the stage. Did you think that?

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as a nurse as well? Well, yes. And also when you injure the ear, the ear is a very vascular area, so there's a lot of blood. And then also, you know, he just got hit by a bullet. Even though it didn't penetrate his head, it grazed the ear.

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That is a lot of endorphins. So I think too, when these things happen, you're in shock. And there's cases of people that get shot, and they don't realize it until a moment later because those endorphins are firing so much. But yeah, I wasn't surprised that there was an assassination attempt on this man, because they have just been going after him. And whatever they do, they just end up making him more powerful and more popular.

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They really thought that they were going to get him with all of these bogus charges and being able to call him a felon. And then they were all excited about having a mugshot, but people went and made t-shirts out of the mugshot. And now we have these brilliant photos of him. just, I can't cuss on here, but just acting like a bad, you know what, with his fist in the air, with the flag in the background and the blood on his face. I kind of feel like, in a way, whoever is behind this basically just handed Donald Trump the.

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election. Okay. So the flip side, conspiratorial side, about that amazing photograph that's now on shirts for sale by every conservative person that's out there putting t-shirts out, is that it was so amazingly awesome that it almost looked like it was a staged photo shoot. How could this even happen? Since when do secret service agents take time to allow their target to put his fist up in the air?

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So people were condemning the secret service agents because they allowed him to do that. But I can't help but admit that how good I felt that he was doing, that. He was saying to the world, you just tried to take me out, but look, here I am. I'm saying fight, fight, fight. And, you know, showing strength in a nation, it does definitely rally a nation.

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to see that. I've heard even liberal talking heads say that they were quite encouraged by that.

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show of strength that he had. Oh, okay. I heard, I think every week we should just be like, okay, what's the stupidest thing you've heard all week? The stupidest thing I have heard all week with Jen Psaki and her other woman, that's her show host. They were comparing Trump surviving an assassination attempt to Joe Biden getting COVID again.

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And they were like, you know, it's basically the same thing. Joe Biden is just showing the same amount of strength.

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She's so clearly left. She's so clearly anti-right. And that is not an American ideal to be. You know, we should be trying to always find common ground. And it does seem like the left is so radically anti the right.

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It's so divisive. Okay. I found her name. It is, it's Joy Reid.

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And honestly, I think a lot of these individuals, they're not journalist guys. They're, well, I think our followers know this because you're following America out loud, that these people, that our listeners, may have friends and family who still for some reason, believe mainstream media outlets, but these people are basically actors and they all repeat the same talking points. It's interesting that they all basically have the same thing to say. And they basically start foaming out of the mouth when they hear the words, Donald Trump. But I actually had a discussion with a friend who's, who's real liberal.

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And, of course, when I go out with friends, I, well, I'm usually not the one to bring up the politics. They're usually the ones that will bring it up. But, you know, I may decide to inform them about some things, but I had a friend that just was getting, she was getting so upset talking about how racist Donald Trump was. You know, it really triggered that fight or flight. She was getting mad.

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And I, very calmly and collectively, I was like, Oh, okay. Can, can you tell me what he did or what he said that was racist? And she couldn't tell me. And then she eventually was like, well, you're not going to understand because you're not black. And I was like, yes, correct.

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I am not black. But, but, you know, I think a lot of people have their minds set about him, that he is evil. But when you ask them, what did he do, that was so evil? Did he start a lot of wars? Did he, you know, but these people also love Obama, who he basically set off the most bombs in the Middle East, more than any other US president, but they don't know that, you know, so, and again, with with Donald Trump, I mean, just like with any world leader, I mean, you're not like for me, I don't agree with everything that he says, but this man is a billionaire.

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He could be retired right now on some island in Fiji, but what is he doing? Like? he is having his name and his family's name just dragged through the mud. He is being raided. He is being given all of these phony charges and now an assassination attempt on his life.

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So you really have to wonder, you know, we know that so many people who are serving in Congress and so many people that become the president leave those positions so much more wealthy. We know a lot of people that are running our government, they're there to enrich themselves. They're not there to be a public servant. But I will say I really believe that he does love this country. That really is a great way to segue into the break.

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1Speaker 1
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Welcome back to Nurses Out Loud. I want we're going to pick back up where we left off on everything that's gone down since Trump's assassination. And we're going to hit some of the conspiracy theories that are going on out there and we're going to analyze them ourselves and give our take on them. But I want to encourage our listeners to remember to please send in anything that you want to ask us, whether it be questions about a previous show or this one. And especially if you were a person that was at this event, we would love for you to send something to us directly at nurses at america out loud, dot com.

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And let us know that you were an eyewitness to this historic moment in history, so that we can get your story told on the air. So please do reach out. So we have Nurse Jody with us now, who is on a train between Naples heading to Rome. So she's our world traveling nurse right now. And hopefully she'll be able to comment.

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So welcome to the show, Jody. I'm sure you're having a great time. Yes, I am. I am. We had a little bit of a snafu with our time and we wound up hanging out in Naples for five hours and we'll land in Rome at 1130 p.m.

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tonight. And instead of getting a hotel room, we're just going to hang out in the center and then get to the airport early for a 10 a.m. flight to Canada. So I will arrive back in Arizona Wednesday night.

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Yeah. Yeah. So it's like 24 hours of travel, but it's cool. Well, I hope you found some great interviews over there. I hope you do.

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So we're going to pick back. up is with. I wanted to bring up the bullet. There was a ballistic specialist. What was his name?

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Brandon Herrera. He does conspiracy theories from the past and replays shootings from the past. And he said that if you had the specific type of gun that the sniper had on the roof, that everybody saw that famous photo that took out the shooter. He said that with that particular gun landing in the brain of a human being, it would have been a disintegrated brain. There would have literally the brain, would have been the entire face and head.

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Everything would have been taken out, utter destruction. And we've all seen the photos of the corpse on the top of the roof. And it does. He looks very recognizable as a human. His face looks recognizable and matches his photos.

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So they said that they had to find his ID somewhere else. And we did reference that. it did appear his truck did have some ballistics, more ballistics with incendiary devices that were there. But I'm going to put the link in the show notes for anybody else who's out there kind of wondering about the little questionable details that are surrounding this event, that, you know, that he looks like he's a patsy. Is he actually the the real shooter or not?

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And who is the real shooter? And if they really did take him out from the spot, it looks like why was he not obliterated with that kind of bullet? So had y'all heard about that by chance? No, I don't believe. so.

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No, I didn't either. Okay, so that will just be something I'll add in the show notes. And another unique detail that we had discussed briefly on the first half was the possibility. This is another conspiracy theory that's out there. And I want the audience just to hear it and just think on it.

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Because obviously, it's the preponderance of evidence has to support either side on what's going on. And we had said how, yes, we're in a day and age where AI could literally show us a bullet going through the ear of the president, which we've all seen, and even showed us the bullet in air, going past him, past the back of his head, and hitting the fireman that was actually killed by the bullet. So that is, you know, proposed, that that's actually a staged situation as well. And that when he fell to the ground, that what actually happened was the staged event, was them doing some kind of puncture wound to his ear. And that is why nobody was actually worried.

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And they set up all these great photographs right after and took so long getting off. So what would you be expounding on? that conspiracy theory, ladies? You know, for me, when I saw him go down and then stand back up, it was very suspicious to me that we were able to see his face. I mean, how did the Secret Service not shield him and not let him stand back up and just rush him out of there?

34:40.02 – 34:59.14

I thought it was interesting. I would never have suspected that at all. And he was there, for, you know, a few seconds, you know, 10, 20 seconds, at least. Yeah, say fight, fight, fight, and getting all these amazing photo ops. that happened.

34:59.84 – 35:28.92

And I was saying on the first half how the world would love a moment like that, because it looks like a very strong man that's not afraid. You know, he's going to shove his face right out there. He's not afraid, and he's showing the world that he's not afraid. And so that was a very special moment that would definitely rally the American citizens. And I couldn't help but judge the females that were the Secret Service agents, saying, they look like they're literally putting their head down to protect their own head.

35:29.32 – 35:58.14

And or maybe their head was protecting his heart, but they weren't tall enough to be taking care of a man like this. It's not to say that women aren't completely, I have a wonderful girl who's helped me with many things, who's in security herself. And she said, women are very equipped to do the job, but Donald Trump is not your average size man. So it seemed that they would get a very equipped, very skilled woman that had some height and body girth to go with it. And it didn't look like that was the case.

35:58.22 – 36:03.70

We all saw the Secret Service agent that couldn't holster her weapon. So it did look like that DEI moment.

2Speaker 2
36:03.78 – 36:35.90

What's your thoughts on that, ladies? Yes. So when he was being walked off the stage by Secret Service, I could not help but notice, but there was like a little woman trying to protect him, but Trump is so tall. And this woman was not very tall and his entire head was exposed. And I remember thinking, and I was like, I do not recall if I have even seen female Secret Service agents before.

36:36.42 – 37:25.16

And again, I know that there are female police officers and security officers that do a wonderful job, and there may be an exception, but we do know that men and women are very different. And when it comes to things like security, flying a plane, we should be hiring people who are the most suited for those positions. Leaning into this DEI nonsense is not only ridiculous, but it can be dangerous. And we're talking about a former president who is the front runner for the Republican party. And you are going to have female Secret Service agents, one that cannot properly bolster a gun.

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And then I saw another picture of one of the agents ducking, because again, men and women are very different. Men have all that higher levels of testosterone flowing through their veins and they tend to act differently than women do in these very high pressure situations.

1Speaker 1
37:44.98 – 38:00.18

Great insight. I love that. Jodi, what about you? Well, I think I know a few women that do do security. I actually interviewed a US Air Marshal on the show and became good friends with her.

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And I think that we are equipped to do those things and to protect him. But the DEI stuff is just absolutely absurd. We need to hire the best people for the job and obviously we're not. When I think of what happened with Trump and he got down and Secret Service came on stage, they should have let him go to his feet if he could, which he could, and then hold his head down and develop a circle around him and he just move off the stage. The fact that they even let him stand up was absolutely ridiculous.

38:50.10 – 38:59.62

Yeah, that stood out. And this lady, yeah, and this lady, she's resigned now, correct? That's what I heard.

2Speaker 2
38:59.62 – 39:01.28

Yeah, she resigned today.

1Speaker 1
39:01.54 – 39:11.06

Yeah, today she did. Yeah. And, you know, and she should have. I mean, I listened to the testimony in front of Congress and she wasn't answering a darn question.

2Speaker 2
39:11.92 – 39:45.02

Her name is Kimberly Cheadle. And I know it was like asking a toddler questions, you know, I mean, you know, it's like, well, I know my child did something wrong and they just keep trying to hide it and they won't tell me. She refused to give them specifics. And the type of questions that they were asking her were very simple questions. And if she's head of the agency, it is astonishing to me how she would not be able to answer those questions.

39:45.06 – 39:48.84

So I think that she's able to answer them. I think that she's choosing not to.

1Speaker 1
39:49.62 – 40:04.72

Well, I have a wonderful clip to play for everybody to hear. That was Representative Anna Paulina Luna. She calls for criminal perjury inquiry for Secret Service Director Kim, how do you say her last name, Cheadle?

2Speaker 2
40:05.26 – 40:05.72

Cheadle.

1Speaker 1
40:07.04 – 40:23.34

I am completely disgusted by your performance today, she says. And she says she lied about knowing the shooter was a threat before Trump got on stage. And as we reviewed in the first half, we went through the timeline. They knew before he was on stage that there was a threat present, and they let him go on stage. So it's quite shocking.

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But what I was so proud of this particular representative from Florida, the way she spoke, the word she said, was way overdue for somebody in Congress to say, like, who is Fauci to think he can come without the citations? She said, you know, you knew you were coming here today, you were going to be asked these questions. Don't say that you need to go back and go check something. This is the day that you bring all your checks and balances. These people do not seem to be afraid of what they don't have to apparently prove to Congress.

40:53.46 – 40:55.04

So everybody listen to what she has to say.

2Speaker 2
40:55.36 – 41:11.00

And according to some of the testimony today, I feel that you have perjured yourself in some instances. And so I'm going to ask for a full review of the transcripts by staff. And if you find that to be the case, I do ask that you bring perjury charges against the director. I will say this. It is very frustrating.

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And I've talked to my colleagues and we've said it to your face that you have been up here basically stonewalling our ability to get the answers to the American people. And what I will also say is that every single member of Congress does not feel safe with you in charge. You have heard that. And I think that we are all sitting ducks with you and directing the Secret Service currently. But, more importantly, it sends a message to our adversaries that we are not protected and we are one of the strongest countries in the world.

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So you have essentially made us a less safe country because of it. As a result of that, I'm asking you to formally step down. I share my same opinions as my Democrat colleagues. And I also think that your efforts to bring forward a full investigation and report in 60 days is unacceptable. And as a result of that, I'm going to do everything in my legislative toolkit to ensure that that happens sooner rather than later.

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And I'm sure that you know that we brought a vote on inherent contempt against Garland for essentially blocking a congressional investigation, and I don't think that you should be any different. So I will say that I am just completely disgusted by your performance today. And I understand that you're probably in a position where you're being told not to testify, which is why we had to subpoena you. I think that goes back to Garland. But again, that is part of the flushing that we need to get out of Washington and I would be happy to assist in that process.

42:27.38 – 42:28.30

Chairman, I yield the rest of my time.

1Speaker 1
42:29.10 – 42:41.16

Yeah, so it wasn't she just a powerhouse to say, this is how I view you. Yes, I loved it. I also love the other lady who said that. What did she say that? MTG?

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bullshit or something?

2Speaker 2
42:44.16 – 43:28.22

Yeah, I think she said that she was full of it, you know. But I wish we had more people in Congress like that, because a lot of these government bureaucrats don't feel like they are accountable to anyone. And for any of our listeners that have had a government job, I'm sure you know exactly what we're talking about, with just the profound level of incompetence in government positions. But this is just the fact that this happened under her watch, and something as insane as she was like, well, that's a safety issue to have an agent on that sloped roof, which isn't even that sloped. It's so insane, and it is mind blowing.

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The fact that this happened, and she didn't go ahead and resign is, again, you can't.

1Speaker 1
43:36.96 – 43:57.88

make it up. Yeah, this is unbelievable kind of things that are happening. Okay, so, ladies, before I go into the next conspiracy theory, I'm not sure if there's one that you all, that stands out to you, that we want to make sure that we do address. Because what's so interesting is it really is coming from both sides. It's not just the left saying this was a staged event.

43:58.22 – 44:37.86

It's also the right saying it's a staged event. So the right seems to be saying that the staged event is a coup, that the government itself has turned on a presidential candidate, and tried to eliminate a candidate that was possibly going to take Biden or the Democrats out of power. So that's what the right is focusing on. But even deeper on the right, the right is concerned that Trump has done some things that give evidence that maybe he himself has some deep state connections himself. So the way that I will take down that little bunny trail and see what you, ladies, have to say about that is, one was the naming of J.D.

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Vance, because he did that a few days after the assassination. We found out about his choice for his candidate. And his candidate, on first glance, you're like, oh my goodness, a wonderful guy from Ohio. He put that great movie out, Hillbilly Elegy. And he's a guy that was born on the other side of the tracks and lived this life with a heroin addict mother.

45:01.58 – 45:39.08

And he's hated in Congress. So that must mean he's a really conservative guy. And what the bunny trail side is saying is, he also went to Yale and was in the Skull and Bones group that are associated to getting themselves corrupted by some kind of sexual indiscretion, so they can hold it over you once we get you to the powerful place we want to get you to one day. And I didn't know this, but apparently Yale is a CIA scouting grounds. So, you know, that's a lot for Michelle, but that is obviously out there that J.D.

45:39.12 – 45:48.06

Vance is take away the VA and put in PE and you got Pence versus Vance. Like why did he pick Vance? So what do y'all think about that?

2Speaker 2
45:49.28 – 46:17.20

So I think it's interesting that he did pick Vance because Vance was initially very critical of President Trump. And again, I am not an expert on J.D. Vance. I've just started learning about him. But I, one of the concerns for Trump supporters is that he is going in to he would be going into another four year term at the age of 78..

46:17.52 – 46:46.52

Even though he is sharp as attack, and he looks very healthy, that is a concern for a lot of individuals. So I think that a lot of people like that J.D. Vance is at the young age of 39, which is very, very young to be a, to be a VP. But after, of course, when I learned about J.D. Vance, I immediately went back to okay, yeah, what are his?

46:46.52 – 47:08.72

what did he say about these mandated COVID shots? Went back and I learned about okay, what, what was his response? Was he speaking out against all the shenanigans with COVID? And I saw where he specifically came out against the mandates and things like that, which I, which I do respect. And yeah, I do like that.

47:08.72 – 47:22.20

he has a lot of very old school, conservative values, and that he really worked his way up from nothing. And I know that he was in the service. I believe he was.

1Speaker 1
47:22.20 – 47:44.10

a Marine. Is that correct? Yeah, I think he was a military fellow. So that does look very appealing, needless to say, and Ohio, apparently, Ohio has chosen the president's for a very long time. And what was so unique about the 2020 election was that Trump did win Ohio, and yet Biden won the election.

47:44.28 – 48:14.12

So that was kind of a red flag thing. So I wondered if there was a reason regarding Ohio, I used to be Ohio resident, and found out just how significant Ohio's vote does tend to be in presidential elections. Okay, so the next thing I want to bring up is the Donald Trump's pick for his US Treasury Secretary, the Bitcoin lover, Larry Fink. Okay, so, I just found out about that. And I'm not a person that digs deep into the conspiracy theories, but I have a lot of people who reach out to me and share theirs.

48:14.62 – 48:43.30

And so apparently, Larry Fink is definitely a BlackRock and Vanguard kind of guy. So it doesn't, for a man who says, I want to clean out the swamp, and I want to get out the bad guys out of it. This could be a keep your enemies closer kind of moment. But it is interesting that our shooter just happened to show up in a BlackRock video done from his high school. And that is a otherworldly kind of shocker.

48:43.84 – 49:22.94

And now you've got Trump picking a person that's in a significant position of authority on the week after his assassination attempt, that is a Vanguard and BlackRock person. And anybody out there who is among the conspiracy theorists who follow all these kind of things, we all know that, all of you who do these kind of deep dives, we tend to find out that you might have been right. When we heard you say it the first time, we think, wow, you're really far out there. But sure enough, since 2020, we are finding out some of these people who do these deep dives really do uncover some things. So, ladies, what do you think about that pick, Larry Fink, being so connected with the deep state?

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So I have not done that deep dive yet.

2Speaker 2
49:26.58 – 49:57.42

of who he is selecting for his cabinet. Just from doing an internet search, which again, guys, there's so much just nonsense that comes up on an internet search. So I would need to spend more time looking into this. But a lot of the headlines that I am getting are saying things like Trump denies, considering JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon or BlackRock's Larry Fink for treasury secretary. So yeah, I would just want to hear a little bit more about that.

49:57.52 – 50:33.30

However, I did see where Crooks just happened to be in a BlackRock commercial. And I did find that to be interesting, because I do not believe that this was just a lone ranger, guys, just some random 20-year-old just acting all by himself. And just no one, yes, the people on the ground noticed him, but our top agents in the world didn't pick up on it. So I definitely think that there's some things that are suspicious. I mean, what are the chances that he's just going to happen to be in a BlackRock commercial?

50:34.26 – 50:41.06

Oh, another fact here. Both of his parents are behavioral psychologists. Did you?

1Speaker 1
50:41.06 – 51:06.00

hear that? I did. And I would love to hear David go out on this one, because I know he's all over the psychology world, and see what he has to say about that. Because it is a red flag to me that he's got parents that are this mental health involved, and you got a boy with what looks like mental health problems that are pretty significant. Well, because he's a shooter, not because he looked like he was going to be a shooter.

51:06.14 – 51:23.54

Some of the testimonies of the students that went to school with him said that he was kind of a lone wolf or whatever, or a guy that was out there, kind of not into the public crowd scene. But just because you're an academic that likes books doesn't make you a person that's on Ritalin or under the influence of amphetamines. What do you think?

2Speaker 2
51:23.74 – 52:19.50

You know, so I do wonder, so now with his parents, and again, when I hear about mass shootings, suicidality, things like that, we do know that in our country, I know that when the mass shootings happen, people want to be blaming the guns. But I'm always thinking, what's going on behind the individual that is operating the gun? And we know that a lot of these mass shooters, there is a commonality, that many of them are on psychiatric drugs, such as SSRIs, which do carry a warning of suicidal behavior, and aggressive behavior. And that is something that really needs to be evaluated. I do wonder if he was on psychiatric drugs, because, again, with having parents that are both in that field, it might be likely that they were, you know, very pharma savvy.

52:20.08 – 53:28.58

So I know a lot of, and I used to, I used to work in psych, and I know a lot of people that, you know, have family members that are in the field of psychiatry, and they're really big believers of these psychiatric medications. So I just wonder, like, if he was taking any types of drugs, any type of, you know, prescription drugs that we know can possibly alter your brain chemistry. And another thing, so many people that get wrapped up in what the media says about Trump, and all of these different groups, when we talk about Antifa, and these really liberal groups, they really believe that this man is Hitler, from what they hear and see on TV, and in social media posts, and it's all emotion. So I wonder if this boy somehow was radicalized to believe that Trump is Hitler, and he's doing a service to the world by taking him out. But I do not believe that he just did this thing alone.

53:28.70 – 53:40.48

I also heard that his parents, even though he's an adult, he's 20 years old, but the parents couldn't find him, and were considering putting out like a missing persons alert.

1Speaker 1
53:41.54 – 54:04.66

Oh, all these interesting little tidbits. And we're in a modern day era where everybody has a phone and everybody can actually be a recording of anything going on. So it's really interesting that we're not seeing hundreds, if not thousands, of videos coming out, but they're coming out slowly but surely. And hopefully some of you out there, if you're the ones holding them, you can reach out to America Out Loud and make sure that it gets told here. But we're going to have to wrap it up.

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And I just want to remind you all that, you know, with all this evidence that others are in charge, you know, it seems like others are in charge of what's actually going on here in America. We're reminded that our constitutional rights to choose our own representative is at risk. And it appears that it's been a problem for some time. And it was really exposed in 2020.. And I just did a show this week with interviewing Harry Howrey from Unite, the number for freedom.com.

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And I'm publishing actionable items that citizens can do in their own cities to secure election integrity locally. Because there's something we can all do where you can follow your passion and actually do something instead of just talk about it and say, I agree, we've got to actually become our own little army and do some things ourselves. Part of our ethical oath and our obligations can be found in the nine principles of nursing ethics. And for us to be talking about politics and the happenings of the world, we have every right to be here. As nurses, when we take that oath, we take the oath to educate and participate in scholarly inquiry and also to have a seat at the at the table, you know, a part of the legislation decision process.

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So us discussing these topics is very important to our field, because our field deals with people. And that's who we care about. Love it. Wonderful. Thanks.

55:33.56 – 56:19.18

So if you're concerned about how election day is going to go down, and you want to do something to secure your constitutional right to suffrage, I'm going to add the link to that interview in the show notes. But I want to also encourage all of you to consider this little bug in your ear, to consider a write in ballot campaign where American citizens say we refuse to participate in an election, where electronic machines are going to be used. So if electronic machines are going to be used in your city, you need to discover it and make up your mind if you are going to choose, on that day to ask for a write in ballot and you will write your own person down. And maybe it's going to evolve to the place where we will know who we might could all agree. we're all going to write down.

56:19.26 – 56:58.68

Maybe everybody's going to write down, the majority is going to write down Donald Trump. But if it's not going to be Donald Trump, and you want to say it's somebody else, that you're going to have a way to force those that count the votes to have to read the ballot and count it the appropriate way, the old way, with no machines or electronics able to control that feature anymore. So I want to leave you all with that idea, because we have a lot of conspiracies going on, and we're not done with them. So for today, that will have to be a wrap. Thanks, ladies, for coming in and letting us expound on all these things that our American citizens are good at being sleuths and deep dive studiers.

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And we're thankful for all of them. And as we learned through COVID, that just because you're not a nurse with 25 letters behind your name doesn't mean that you, who only have two letters, name, RN behind your name, or BSN behind your name, is not quite capable of reading, research and bringing truth to the people. So we're thankful for all you Bunny Trail people who dig in and find things that all of us can now study and find out if it's accurate or not. Because we now know that plenty of doctors and nurses that were obscure before COVID are now very recognizable names in the public because they just did their studies, they followed their conscience, and Nurses Out Loud wants to encourage you to do the same. How about we learn a few more life lessons in this post-COVID era?

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We have many among us who have exercised their curiosity to seek out the truth. Those we once called conspiracy theorists may be the citizens who reveal and elucidate the solutions. After all, we are in a war for truth, and the truth is the American people are waking up and realizing. our elected representatives are in need of expose and great reform. Keep being curious, keep asking questions, and please, keep talking, truth seekers.

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We're listening. Until next week.

2Speaker 2
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It's time and this is war.

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It's time and this is war.

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