EP. 147: GEORGIA - They Murdered Her Grandparents (The Killings Of Wendy and Randall Bjorge)

They have no clue what they truly do for our souls. End quote. Love you, Mimi. But Jimmy Carter once said, quote, Because grandparents are usually free to love and guide and befriend the young, without having to take daily responsibility for them, they can often reach out past pride and fear of failure and close the space between generations. End quote.

And that's exactly what Amanda Sterling was hoping for in 2015.

. Amanda had been having issues with her teenage daughter, Cassie. Issues that she couldn't seem to fix, no matter how hard she tried. Hoping to heal her and her daughter's relationship, as well as lead Cassie in the right direction, Amanda reached out to her parents to see if they could help. Maybe they could help Cassie get her life back on track.

Amanda also knew her parents loved their granddaughter more than anything in this world. So when Randall and Wendy Bjorg were asked if they could take custody of Cassie, they were more than happy to help. But little did they know that in doing so, their lives would be taken by the very girl they loved the most. Their own granddaughter. So this is the story of Cassie Bjorg and Johnny Ryder.

I'm Courtney Brown.

Today, the city is still proud of its history. Interestingly, the Gwinnett Historic Courthouse was voted as one of the best places in the United States to host a wedding. With its picturesque charm and historic surroundings, Lawrenceville has a population of around 30,000 residents, and it's a place where many people are proud to call home. It's also considered a great place to raise a family due to an abundance of schools, parks, and community amenities. Although it's not considered a small town, it does have a small town feel, which is exactly why Randall Bjorg and his wife, Wendy, decided to live here.

Giving back to their community was very important to them. Within their neighborhood, people described the couple as very friendly. Randall and Wendy were the type of neighbors where, if they saw you doing yard work, they would walk over and ask if you needed any help. In the evenings, the couple would sometimes ride their bikes or go on walks with their dogs. It was a way for them to get some fresh air and spend some quality time with each other as the day winded down.

Their neighbor, Eric Trioda, said that he would often be sitting on his porch when the couple would walk by his house. And every time, he could always expect Randall and Wendy to wave and ask how he was doing. The couple was also adored by the children in their neighborhood. In fact, some of the kids who lived nearby described them as the, quote, nicest people I ever met. You know, some people, when they get older, they don't want to live around a bunch of rowdy kids.

But not Randall and Wendy. The sounds of children laughing and riding their bikes down the quiet streets brought them a lot of joy. Maybe it reminded them of when they were young parents. Or when their granddaughter, Cassie, was a little girl. By 2015,, Cassie Bjork had grown up.

She was 16, going on 25.

. But Randall and Wendy often reminisced on when Cassie was little. Becoming a grandparent was so exciting for them. They were the ones that taught Cassie how to swim. And they were right there for all of her big milestones.

However, as Cassie grew up, she was no longer that innocent little girl. In fact, their daughter, Amanda, had really been struggling with Cassie.

. And although there isn't a lot of information out there about her childhood and upbringing, it's clear that she never really had a great relationship with her biological father. However, she did grow up living in Duluth, Georgia with her mom, Amanda Sterling, and her stepdad. Now, as Cassie grew older, like most teenagers, she started to rebel. She pushed the limits, tested her boundaries.

And it was causing a lot of turmoil with their home. According to her mother, Cassie was known to be a wild child who did whatever she wanted, whenever she wanted. She had a really big problem with listening to authority. It also didn't matter what Amanda did or said, Cassie just wouldn't follow the rules. And not just her rules, she also continuously broke the law.

By the age of 16, Cassie had racked up a number of juvenile offenses, including theft, underage drinking, smoking marijuana, shoplifting, assault, running away from home, and skipping school. For years, Amanda tried to correct her daughter's behavior. But by 2015, she was at the end of her rope. So, with no other options to help, her daughter left, Amanda called her parents, Randall and Wendy, and asked them for help.

So, maybe she would listen to them. When Randall and Wendy got this call from their daughter, they were more than happy to help. They knew deep down that Cassie was a good girl. She just needed a little direction, and they were willing to do anything for their granddaughter. So, in October of 2015, they filled out the paperwork.

And not long after that, they were officially granted custody of Cassie Bjork. And everyone was really hopeful at first. Amanda was especially happy, because Cassie needed to get away from Duluth. The crowd she had been running with there was pretty seedy, to say the least. And, as they say, you are the sum of the people you hang out with.

Maybe a new school and new friends would help point Cassie in the right direction. But they couldn't have been more wrong.

She had to do her homework and pass her classes. There was a curfew, she had to be home by. And no exceptions. And she was not allowed to drink alcohol or smoke marijuana. Now, these rules were all the ones Cassie was known to break while she lived with her mom.

And in the beginning, it was obvious that she wasn't going to follow her grandparents' guidance. Cassie constantly butted heads with them and challenged their authority.

She wasn't a bad person. She had just fallen astray. Having her living with them was not easy. Upon moving to Lawrenceville in late 2015,, it was clear that Cassie had no desire to follow their rules. And the more they tried to enforce them, the more she rebelled.

At the time, she was enrolled in Peachtree Ridge High School. And after just a few months, she found a new crowd of troubled teens. And soon enough, she started skipping class again. Her grandparents got on to her, but she didn't listen. And at some point, she refused to attend any of her classes.

Resulting in her dropping out of school completely. But Randall and Wendy weren't going to put up with that. If Cassie wasn't going to go to school in person, then they would homeschool her. Which is exactly what they did. But, as you can imagine, that wasn't a walk in the park either.

In fact, it seemed to cause even more tension within their home. So much so, between October of 2015 and March of 2017, the Gwinnett County Police Department responded to 31 phone calls at the Bjorg residence in Lawrenceville. 18 of the phone calls were to report that Cassie had run away. And 8 of the calls were from concerned neighbors that would overhear their fights. The neighbors' calls were reported as COAP, which meant check as often as possible.

That's how concerned they were. Sadly, nearly every week, Cassie's angry screams would echo throughout the neighborhood. And at some points, her grandparents even had to call the police because she would get physically violent with them. Cassie herself would later admit that in one of these domestic disputes, she even broke one of her grandpa's ribs. On one school night, Wednesday, November 30th, 2016,, Cassie came home well past curfew.

And immediately, her grandparents could tell that she was heavily intoxicated. So they were understandably upset. When they confronted her, Cassie started berating her grandmother for being too strict. And during the fight, Cassie grabbed a full glass of water and threw it at Wendy's head. Luckily, it missed and shattered into the wall behind her.

But Cassie wasn't finished just yet. From there, she charged at her grandma so aggressively, Randall had to step in and hold her back. They were terrified. Especially because Cassie had a background in martial arts. She could really hurt them if she wanted to.

So during the struggle, Wendy decided to call 911.

. When the police arrived, Wendy tried calmly explaining what happened. But Cassie kept interjecting.

Apparently, Cassie had become upset when her grandmother threatened to call the police. And from there, the argument ensued. Officer J.C. Guevara wrote the report, but did not take Cassie into custody. Instead, he forwarded the report to the juvenile courts, and she was ultimately charged with simple battery, unruly juvenile, and simple assault, with the primary weapon being listed as a blunt object.

Sometimes, she would be gone for days at a time, which is really scary considering she's still a teenager. There's a lot of danger out in the world. Danger that Cassie seemed to gravitate to. Sometimes, she would be gone for so long, Wendy and Randall would have to print out missing persons flyers and distribute them throughout their neighborhood. They would also go to Facebook and tell everyone to be on the lookout for her.

And eventually, Cassie would come back, just to start the cycle all over again. But despite all of the heartbreak she was putting them through, they were not willing to give up on her. And they even got creative with their discipline. To make sure Cassie wouldn't run away, they installed a security system at their house that would alert them if one of the windows or doors opened in the night. They also started lining the front and back doors with objects before they went to bed, so that maybe they could hear Cassie moving them in the middle of the night.

But when they got creative with their discipline, Cassie also got creative. Before sneaking out, she would take the batteries out of the alarm system so she could slip out the door without the alarm going off. So, as you can see, even with all of the extra precautions, Cassie was still disobeying their rules. And Wendy and Randall just didn't know what to do anymore. Every single thing they tried didn't seem to work.

And they were at their wit's end. On April 1st, 2017, Wendy went to Cassie's bedroom to find out that she had run away once again. So she went to Facebook, writing, quote, Please spread the word. Please be on the lookout for Cassie. End quote.

One friend even commented, quote, Not again. I pray she is safe and returns home. Later that night at 11.18 p.m., Wendy texted her sister-in-law about Cassie running away. The text read, quote, I'm going to bed soon. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

All I can do is hope for the best and expect the worst. It shouldn't be this hard for any of us. End quote. Sadly, this would be the very last time anyone would ever hear from Wendy and Randall Bjork. Over the next few days, many friends and family members tried to get in contact with the couple, but were met with silence.

Both Wendy and Randall stopped replying to all texts, phone calls, and emails, which was very strange. The couple were very good at communicating with people and hardly ever ignored messages, and their loved ones were concerned. So on April 6th, at around 6 p.m., a family member who lived out of state and requested a welfare check at 1911 for Long Road. The police report stated that the family member hadn't heard from Randall and Wendy for approximately one week, and they wanted to make sure they were okay. So at 6.09 p.m., an officer responded to the call and drove out to the Bjork residence.

The officer reported that he knocked on the door, but no one answered. And although this was a welfare check, there was nothing suspicious that really stood out. There were no signs of forced entry, and the couple's car was not in the driveway. So to him, it looked like no one was home. Maybe the couple left and didn't want to talk to family members.

And with that, the officer left the residence without going inside.

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, with another person stating that they hadn't heard from the couple in several days. However, a Gwinnett County police officer had just been there, and he didn't think he had cause to gain entry to their house. So nothing was done. But over the next day, phone calls continued to pour in, requesting that they check on the couple. So on the afternoon of April 7th, officers went to their residence again.

This time, they walked around the property, peering into the windows to see if they saw anything suspicious. But again, they found nothing amiss, which meant they had no grounds to enter the home. Before leaving, they spent several minutes knocking on the Bjork's front door, but no one answered. To the police, it seemed like Wendy and Randall had left town. Maybe they took a vacation and didn't tell anyone.

After all, their car still wasn't there. So again, they left the property without going inside. And by now, their concerned family members are upset. They know deep down that something was wrong here. And with the police refusing to search their home, they were left with no choice but to file a missing persons report on the couple.

m. on the night of April 7th. And while Wendy and Randall's loved ones are filing a missing persons report, another 911 call comes in, reporting an assault case that was actively taking place at a nearby home, located at 1685 Rambling Woods Drive. The caller's name is Tomoko Ryder, and she tells dispatch that she is currently driving her daughter and her daughter's boyfriend to the hospital because her son had attacked them. Tomoko said that her son's name was Johnny Ryder and that he and this unknown female came into their house, started beating them, and even threatened to kill them.

Now, Tomoko said that her daughter was pretty badly injured. So they were on their way to the hospital, but the police needed to go to her house immediately to arrest her son, Johnny. So, that's what they do. When the officers arrive at the home, they look through the window and see a messy scene. There are items thrown all over the floor and blood smeared all over the walls.

So they make their way inside and announce their presence.

M. Litwin said, I then leaned in the door slightly to look around because it was unknown if there may be an injured party on scene. As I leaned toward the door, I immediately began to cough. After a moment, Officer Lee realized that someone had sprayed pepper spray in the residence.

Mindy said that all of her belongings were thrown on the floor and some of her stuff was even missing, like a nice watch of hers. And sadly, the person robbing her was her own brother, 19-year-old Johnny Ryder. They also said there was a girl with him, 17-year-old Cassie Bjork. Now, according to them, Johnny hadn't been home for weeks, which was pretty common. They also said that they had never met the girl that was with him.

But when Mindy saw that her own brother was robbing her, she immediately pulled out her phone to call her mom. She was understandably furious. And on that phone call, Mindy told her mom that she was going to call the police. But instead of feeling remorseful, Johnny and Cassie pull out a can of bear spray and they start spraying it in Mindy's face. Now, downstairs, Mindy's boyfriend hears all of this and immediately comes to her aid.

And when he walks into the room, Mindy is on her knees, clearly in a lot of pain. But before he can do anything, Johnny comes after him, spraying him with the bear spray and punching him several times in the face. And as he does this, he yells to Cassie and says,

But it's here where Johnny and Cassie decide to flee the scene, stealing his sister's car in the process.

Their neighbor, Beth Lenz, would later speak to the media and say, I'm totally flabbergasted that this was going on. There were lots of people going back and forth. I've seen a couple of arguments. Like with Cassie's grandparents, Tomoko had had a lot of issues with her son Johnny, but she never expected that he would do something quite like this. Now, luckily, both Mindy and her boyfriend would make a full recovery, but they sustained significant injuries.

Mindy was left with multiple bruises on her body and had even received seven staples to her head. So the Gwinnett County Police Department immediately sent a be on the lookout for Mindy's car, which is the vehicle they left in. They also issued a warrant for Johnny's arrest and for his girlfriend, but at the time they didn't know Cassie's identity. And while officers around Lawrenceville looked for the couple, others stayed at the crime scene to investigate.

Randall and Windy had been reported missing by their family members. And now their car is at the scene of a brutal assault. So with this new evidence, police officers finally had enough grounds to gain entry into the Bjork's home, which was only a little over a mile away. When the officers pulled up to the house, they had a gut feeling that they were about to walk into a disturbing scene. And this was confirmed even further when they stepped inside.

As soon as the front door opened, they were hit with the unmistakable smell of death, a smell that only grew stronger as they made their way up the stairs. Soon enough, they were on the second story of the home, standing in front of a closed door. It was a bathroom. And when they opened it, they found the beaten and bloodied body of Windy Bjork. In another bedroom, upstairs, they found the beaten and bloodied body of Randall.

With one glance, it was obvious that the couple suffered an extremely violent death. Both of them had multiple stab wounds, blunt force, trauma to the head, and their throats had been slit. It was also clear that their bodies had been lying there for at least a week, so they had gone through a significant amount of decomposition. Now, investigators were pretty confident about who murdered the couple. Not only had there been a lot of domestic disputes at this household, but after the attack on Johnny Ryder's family, it was clear that this young couple were out for bloodshed.

And, interestingly enough, it seemed as if they went through a lot of trouble trying to conceal these murders. For one, both Windy and Randall had been doused in bleach, likely to cover up the smell. And two, the rooms where their bodies had found had been caulked, meaning the killers had put a waterproof sealant on the windows and doorframe in an attempt to trap the smell. So, with this discovery, Johnny Ryder and Cassie Bjork were no longer just wanted for assault and battery, but now for a double homicide.

The apartment belonged to one of Johnny's friends, who would later claim that he had no idea what the couple had done. But from here, the police surrounded the residence and spoke through a megaphone, ordering the couple to come out with their hands up. Of course, they didn't listen.

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, the SWAT team arrived and were able to gain entry into the apartment with the help of a robotic device. But once inside, the SWAT team went through clearing every room until they found a locked bathroom. And again, the couple refused to come out. When they did finally make entry, the SWAT team found Johnny and Cassie on the ground, lying in a pool of blood. They had tried to die by suicide by slitting their wrist with a razor blade, but they were unsuccessful.

So from there, the two were taken to the Gwinnett Medical Center in Lawrenceville to treat their injuries. Corporal Deon Washington stated, we believe that they were attempting to kill themselves by slitting their wrists, but they weren't successful. We believe they're going to be in the hospital for a couple of days. End quote. But while the couple remained hospitalized for their injuries, the news of the double homicide spread quickly throughout the community of Lawrenceville.

Police then searched hours for the teens, and this morning they received a call. the two were at the residence at McGinnis Ferry in Suwannee. Investigators say the two barricaded themselves inside an apartment, sparking a SWAT standoff. Police say once they made entry, they found the teens with self-inflicted stab wounds. Randall and Wendy's family members, friends, and neighbors were shocked when they heard the news.

A longtime friend of the couple's, named Jerry DeCattrell, spoke with the media and said that Randall and Wendy were great people who loved giving back to their community. As for their granddaughter, Cassie, he stated that the couple had been struggling with her, but they didn't want to talk about it. Instead, Jerry said that they often reminisced on the early years of her life. Randall would always flash a smile when he talked about teaching Cassie how to swim or how sweet she was growing up. Jerry couldn't believe that the very granddaughter they loved so much would one day kill them.

After learning the news, he went to their house and placed a basket of flowers outside their home, telling reporter Marissa Mitchell, It's unbelievable. They are going to be missed. They were great in this neighborhood. In the days following the murders, neighbors helped decorate a tree that was in the couple's front yard. At the base of it, there were so many flower baskets, notes from people in their community, and two wooden crosses with Randall and Wendy's names.

Neighborhood children wrote letters and drew pictures and taped them to the tree to honor the couple. One drawing depicted a woman smiling next to a piano with the words, We will miss you. Another neighborhood kid wrote, Dear Mr. Randall and Miss Wendy, I will always love you. All the memories are running through my head over and over again.

I will always remember what happened when you were here. You were the nicest people I ever met. It was obvious that their untimely deaths profoundly affected the community of Lawrenceville, and everyone was asking the same questions.

One teenager named Ryan Farmer, who was friends with Cassie, told reporters, quote, We were really good friends. She was a sweet girl. She was outgoing. She was happy. She got good grades and did well in class.

She was like your average school girl. I can't say for sure exactly what happened, but personally, I don't think she did it. End quote. Now, after making a full recovery at the hospital, Cassie was brought to the Gwinnett County Police Department for a formal statement. With her arms and wrists bandaged, two detectives came into the interrogation room and tried to establish a rapport with her.

They started by bringing her McDonald's and even joked around with her a bit. Their goal was to make her comfortable with them, so she'd be more inclined to open up and tell the truth. And it seemed to work.

Coolness. Swear. Swear. Swear. That's probably why I was class clown 25..

Miss Coolness. That's a pretty cool name. Miss Coolness, Shannon, Coolness, whatever you want. I mean, you look familiar. Yeah?

Mm-hmm. But I couldn't like... What. do you remember? Let me see.

if Big Man wants this. I have to use the little girl's room. He'll be right back in with you. I won't leave.

Is anything in that bag going to help you right now? No. No, because it's not utensils. Yeah. I'm just going to grab it and put it out here.

Okay. If you need anything, just call me. Okay. What type of music do you listen to? I like every...

Well, not everything. I'm pretty open-minded, except... You like country, too. I don't like country. I really don't like country.

We could be friends, then. I'm not into country. I've tried, but no. It just doesn't... I can't vibe with it.

How am I so full? Oh, same for me. Well, you haven't been in a hospital, and you're eating hospital food, so... This makes me so disappointed. I don't know.

Well, she said she ate too many chickens, and she barely made it through. What is it? A quarter-pounder? Those hospital food was messing me up. You did talk a lot of smack, though.

Mm-hmm.

Were you and Johnny pretty tight? Did you have feelings for him, or just kind of a boyfriend-type thing? I had feelings. I still have feelings for him. Oh, gosh.

I care about him. I guess I'm going to ask a corny question. Is it love, or how? Yeah. Yeah?

This is what he told me. After type B, we went to Atlanta, and we were on, like, this... I don't know. It was, like, this parking lot thing, and we got to see, like, the whole city. Mm-hmm.

And he told me that when we were sitting up there, that, like, for a second, he looked at me, and I looked at him, and he told me that all he could see was just me. and then purple around me. And he said, like, purple is, like, a sign of love. And he said, like, ever since then, like, it was, like, love at first sight. I don't know.

I mean, he got married to, like, this crazy bitch, and then.

. Now she's, like, saying that I'm stalking her when I've only met the girl, like, twice. Yeah. I talked to Johnny a couple days ago, and just talking to him, I think she definitely was crazy, so... Is he okay?

Yeah, he's fine. He sends his regards and all that stuff, so... Is he, like... Is he doing okay? No, he's fine, okay?

He actually, better off than you, you know, they weren't that deep or anything, so he didn't.

. Really? Mm-hmm. Man, I could have sworn he did worse than me, because I remember when we were in the bathroom, because he did it with me, too, he kept going, and I kept telling him to stop, so... Yeah, he's maybe just tougher skin, I don't know.

I didn't really run away. My grandma, like, kicked me out. Okay. Because, like, this is what happened, like, I was chilling with Johnny and my other friend, Sabrina, and I came home, because, you know, it was time for curfew, because I didn't want to violate my probation, so I came home, and my grandpa was asleep, and my grandma got really mad at me, and she was, like, saying, like, oh, you know, if you don't like it here, you know, we're just going to find somewhere else for you to stay, and she just said that out of the blue. Like, she just got really mad for some reason, and so I was just like, if you're going to find another place for me to stay, I'm just going to leave.

I'm just going to find somewhere else to go. So... And this was basically when you took off, you came back, your grandparents were home, and I guess that's when you had that argument? Wait, what? So you just had an argument with your grandma, right?

Uh-huh, and then I left. Okay. I'm sorry, I got you. And then, when you left, where'd you go to? I was just staying with Johnny.

Like, we were sleeping in his car. And then, so you're kicking it with Johnny. Where are you kicking it with him at? We were just all over the place, basically. We were just trying to find something to do, just keep, you know...

Do you have an exact.

? I don't really remember. Like, I didn't really even know, like, what day it was that we went into the house. And before you did that, did you and Johnny meet up somewhere at a park or something to talk about what was going on? We went to Peachtree Ridge Park, and we talked about it.

At first, it wasn't my idea. at first. I guess, what was said, how do you even bring that into context? He first asked me, are you afraid to die? And I said, no.

And I asked him, are you afraid to die? And he said, no. And he was just talking about how we could, like, run away together, you know, that kind of, like, dream. And he asked me, he was like, would you kill your grandparents? And I, kind of, like, hesitated for a minute.

And I was like, why? And he was just like, I don't know. I mean, because he knows probably everything that I've been through, like all of my family. And he understands that, you know, like, all I really wanted to do was just kind of get away from everything, kind of just move on with myself. Like, I wasn't having a good relationship with my grandparents.

Like, it. just, it started getting really bad, you know, like, that, I got a charge from them because, you know, like, I fought them, you know. I might have broken, like, my grandpa's ribs, you know, for that charge for simple assault and simple battery, you know. And it, just, like, it, just got really worse. We just kept arguing all the time.

And then, I don't know, I guess things, like, just seemed different. They didn't look at me the same anymore. Like, they didn't, I don't know. It was, like, the vibe that they have was, like, they didn't really know what to do. They didn't really know, like, how to be around me, I guess.

They didn't really know, like, how to talk to me. So I didn't really know, like, how to talk to them either. So it was, like, it was just a really hard, like. It was a big age difference too, so. Yeah.

And then, you know, before all of the stuff happened with my parents, you know, like, they treated me so much differently, you know. They had, you know, they trusted me. You know, I could have done anything at their house, you know. Like, I was free, and I loved going over there. And it wasn't, like, I was actually, like, living there.

So, you know, because I was with my parents. So I never, like, ever, had that feeling. But even though I did live with them before, I don't know. It was just, it, kind of just, like, changed throughout, like, the whole time that I was with them.

And then she did the same thing that my mom did. Like, my mom would kick me out. Then, like, a couple days later, she would call the cops saying that I ran away when I didn't. Like, sometimes, like, she would physically force me out of the house. Because, like, sometimes, like, I would just be like, Mom, why are you doing this?

And then, you know, she would, like, literally, like, grab my stuff and push me out the door and then call the cops on me. So I felt like that's what, like, my grandma did, and I didn't know. So I was already figuring that I had a warrant or something that already violated probation. And Johnny was saying that he might have already, like, violated probation because he thought his mom called the cops on him or something. I don't know.

But how we started talking about. it was, like, we started out, like, with, you know, what time should we go over to the house? How are we going to do this? You know, like, what, you know, materials do we need to, you know, do this? So, you know, we started talking about that.

And then, you know, so we decided to go around, like, midnight or 1, 1.

30, because my grandma normally went to sleep around, like, 11, 30, 12.

. So we decided, like, you know, we would park down the road. And then the park was literally, like, right behind my backyard, like the neighborhood park. So I was able to go through the park and then cut through my backyard because there was a fence. Like, there was the trees, and then there was my fence, and then there was the house.

So you could easily, like, go through the trees, and then there was the little gate that you could go through. I didn't even think, like, you could even open it. How did you guys move that cement? Wasn't there, like, a cement block or cinder block or something? Yeah, it was pretty easy to move.

Like, I was able to push the door out a little bit, and then, like, it was stuck. But I was able to maneuver my body over to get into the other side. And then I just moved the cement block over so that Johnny could get through. And then I moved it back. You were living out of his car.

Did he have, like, a lot of clothes in his car that he would change into? Yeah. He already had clothes in his car. But did he have, like, different shoes, or did he kind of just keep one pair of shoes on? He had different shoes.

He had a bunch of stuff in his car. It's kind of like Mary Poppins. Okay. That's a good frame of reference. That's a good analogy.

I like that.

The back deck. And my grandma was still up because we got there a little bit early. So we went back down and we were kind of just chilling over where. The shed is? Yeah.

We were just chilling by the shed. And then we saw that the lights turned out, and then we, just like, stayed outside for a little bit longer, just to, you know, wait. And then I already had the keys to my house, because I already had a set of keys. So I was able to unlock the back door. And then that just made everything easier.

And as back door, do you mean the bottom back door? Or so you're still talking about the door and steps? Yeah. Like when you go up the back, on the back deck, there's two doors. There's a door on the left and a door on the right.

And I went to the door on the right. Because the door on the left had a sensor on it. Like one of those, like. Beep, beep or whatever? Yeah.

Like the door floor opens. One of the ones that kind of like announces each door? Mm-hmm. Okay.

So I unlocked the back door. I was able to open the back door a little bit and not have the stuff in front of the door fall and, you know, make a noise. So I was able to like maneuver in. And then I moved the stuff in front of the door. And then I got Johnny in.

And then we closed the door and locked it. And then would you guys kind of just hang out downstairs? Or did you start moving upstairs? We went upstairs. We didn't immediately go upstairs.

Like we went to the stairs, and then we were like just listening, just hearing what was going on. And we thought everything was good. And then we went upstairs and. Oh, did you guys have anything in your hands? I had one of those car tools.

Was that to do a tire? Yeah, a tire iron. It was a tire iron. So I had one of those. Where did you get that?

at? Johnny's car. Because he had one in his car. His Honda? Or whatever.

And Johnny just used his fist. And he brought a black book bag that had duct tape in it. And it had the tire iron in it. And it had gloves in it, because we were also wearing gloves too. What kind of gloves?

They were like. Like hospital gloves or regular. Hospital gloves. What color were they? Do you remember?

Blue-ish. Yeah, they were blue. Okay. You actually had the tire iron in your hand, or was it still in the book bag? I had the tire iron in my hand.

Yeah, we got it out before we went inside the house. So I had it in my hand. And Johnny didn't have any weapon. He just used his fist. And then.

So, who's first up the stairs? Is it you, and he's kind of following you? or? Yeah. I go upstairs.

He goes into my grandpa's room and then I go into my grandma's room.

She paused for a moment. But then suddenly she heard the sounds of a struggle coming from her grandpa's room. And it's at that moment when Cassie lifted the tire iron above her head and slammed it down onto her grandma. It's terrifying to think about what went through Wendy's head in those moments. The room was dark, so she might not have even known who was attacking her.

But eventually she would realize that it's her own granddaughter trying to kill her. And Wendy fought back.

And then, you know, I could hear my grandpa just yelling, you know, them fighting. And then I started getting in the rush. And then, you know, that's when I started hitting my grandma. She started like screaming and stuff, and. Was that the first hit?

Yeah. In the back of the head? Yeah. She bit me. I think I took a picture of that yesterday, right?

Yeah, she bit me in my finger too, but I forgot which finger. It was on my right hand. I think it was either like my middle finger or it was that one. And when you guys, when you and your grandmother used to get into it, is that, that's kind of how she, she, did she bite you before to kind of get you off her or whatnot? Yeah, she's bitten me before.

She's bitten you before too? Yeah, I haven't bitten her, but she's, she's, she's bit me before. Okay. Like when you guys were in it, or did you just come up and bite you? No, like when we were in it.

Okay. Like, I had this mark on my hand from where she bit me for a while. Where did she bite you that night? On your finger? Yeah.

Anywhere else? On my arm, where they took the picture of it. And then that was it.

And, you know, I stopped hearing Johnny doing whatever. And so he comes in the room with me and my grandma. and, um, you know, he helps me like tie up my grandma with the duct tape. And how do you tie, how did you do that? Is it just her hands or?

I got her hands, I got her whole head, and then I got her ankles. Okay, where are her hands? Just behind her back. Just like this? Yeah.

And Johnny helped you tie her up? Yeah, I mean, I mostly did, but I needed like a little bit of help, because, you know, she was like, you know, moving around and stuff.

I asked her for the code to her safe, because I already knew that she had a safe in her closet. I just didn't know it was in the safe. So, I mean. Did she tell you? Yeah, I mean, like.

she kept saying, like, I'll give you money. I'll give you my keys. You know, I'll give you anything you want. But yeah, she just kept saying. Was she able to talk with the duct tape around her face?

Yeah, like she was like mumbling. You could still understand her, but like, at the same time, you couldn't. Like it wasn't like her mouth was shut. Yeah. It was like that.

Okay. Almost as if she could still move her mouth. Yeah. So we left my grandma sitting there on the floor and then I got the code to the safe. So Johnny's watching my grandpa and my grandma and I'm over.

How'd you get that code? Did she tell you, guys? or? She told us. Okay.

So she told us the code and, you know, I went in the closet, because that's where they kept the safe. So, you know, I go in there, you know, I'm checking out all the stuff and I grab the book bag. And I just start stuffing the book bag with everything, you know, like there was envelopes just filled with money. There was probably about like a thousand dollars that we found in that safe that they were just saving. And.

Did you know about that money? or you just said no? Well, my grandma, it was kind of weird. Like she was kind of giving me like an idea about it before. Like she was saying, what if I just gave you a thousand dollars?

Would that just make the world a better place? I'm just like, no, I don't want a thousand dollars, you know? So, you know, she kept saying that. And then, like when I saw it, I was just like, wow, she actually had a thousand dollars in the safe. Like that's crazy.

So you guys put that stuff in a bag and then basically, Johnny's in your grandpa's room, with your grandpa and your grandma in a room. Do you come back in there and say, hey, I got this stuff? Okay.

And she was kind of creepy. She was like scared. She shitted herself and peed herself. How did she? It was kind of gross.

And Johnny even hit them in the head with a tire iron once more. But with that, there was no question that Wendy and Randall were dead. So from there, Cassie packed a bag and the two left the house to do a little grocery shopping.

And then we came back to the house. When you guys left, where did you guys go to? We went over to like Kroger or Publix to go get something to eat. And then we went back to the house. So we just kind of like, chilled there.

Did you guys kind of just stay in the house then? Yeah, it was kind of both. We were kind of like in and out of the house for a couple days. It was just me and him. We didn't tell anyone.

I mean, I told my friends that my grandparents went on a vacation for like two weeks.

I'm not in your shoes. I mean, I feel terrible. I mean, I feel like the worst person on the planet. But at the same time, it's it was kind of just like, I don't know. I mean, there was so much stuff going on between me and my grandparents already.

Like I couldn't, I couldn't handle it anymore. You know, like. Like you said with his follow up question, though, I mean, did they deserve it? Did grandma deserve it? Did grandpa deserve it?

Or was it kind of just more getting away from your own family? It was more kind of just getting away. So you don't think that grandma did anything? I mean, I was pretty pissed at her, for, you know, the couple of times that, you know, like she would call the cops on me, for, you know, no reason. Sometimes you're like just like.

a lot of the stuff that she would say would be really offensive, because it would be about my mom. Who did you have? Because your grandparents are essentially your parents at this point. And they've been taking care of you for how many years and you live with them. It's a day to day thing.

Who did you have a more contentious relationship with? Who was the one you were butting heads with all the time? My grandma. Your grandma, more so than your grandpa? Yeah, I couldn't talk to my grandpa.

Like I did not have a real good relationship with him. You know, before we did, but then I don't know, like, I wasn't able to talk to him as much. And he, kind of like, pushed me out. Was it Johnny's plan to you get your grandma and he get your grandpa? Or did you want to kind of get your grandma yourself?

because of your relationship, like your, your strained relationship? It was sort of Johnny's idea. more. I mean, I don't know. I didn't.

I don't think they deserved it, but I just wanted to get away from all of that. You know, like, I was so tired of dealing with my family. It felt like I didn't even have a family. It felt like they weren't there. Like, even though they tried to help, it's just like the way that they were kind of doing.

it was like, I don't know, it didn't really work out. Basically piece together kind of what happens, based on the evidence and stuff like that. But what we never can fully explain is why it happened or what happened, like the reasons that happened. Like why we did what we did. Yeah.

I mean, the main reason why I did what I did was because I kind of just wanted to get away from my family. How are you feeling? So that was your plan going into it. Killing grandma and grandpa would get you further away from your family. Yeah.

When you were actually attacking grandma, when you heard Johnny attacking grandpa, you said you got a rush. Yeah. I like to say I like this rush where I was like, OK, I'm ready to do this. You know, like, you know, like it's, you know, going to happen. There's no going back.

So it wasn't like a good rush. It was kind of just like, kind of like, OK, let's go time. I got to do this, you know, like I got to, I got to do what I got to do. No, I'm not going to pretend I'm any expert in karate or anything like that. I got a cousin who's a Filipino world champion.

He's pretty good at what he does and whatever art form he does it in. But I know a lot of it is kind of that controlled aggression. Yeah. OK. No lie that this was a pretty violent attack on grandma and grandpa.

Yes. Were you able to kind of control your aggression based on all your training over these years? Were you angry? Were you? were you sad when it was going on?

Kind of, kind of, walk me through what was going on in your head. I mean, was it, like you said, the rush where it's go time? I just need to do what I came here to do. Yeah. Or was it like them?

They gave me a curfew. They deserved it. Let's get this shit going. It's both. Honestly, like I stopped doing Kung Fu for a while, just because, you know, my mind wasn't there.

You know, I, I just all of my feelings and my emotions were all over the place and I wasn't able to focus. So that really affected, you know, my Kung Fu. But when I was there, you know, like, I don't know, like just all of my emotions, kind of just like, came out when it was happening. Like I was angry and I was sad, but I was heartbroken at the same time, you know, because it was just like, you know, why did all this stuff have to happen with my family? Like, why did I have to deal with all this bullshit?

You know, and just I just kind of really got tired of it and I couldn't handle it anymore. Like, I just kept exploding inside, almost like I wanted to just run away and just be by myself with someone, you know, and just start my life. Like I was just tired of being. And Grandma and Grandpa were your biggest hurdles? Yeah.

Just because, you know. Is that how you saw them as your biggest hurdles to being with Johnny? No, they were my biggest hurdles because of probation. If I didn't get probation, like I wouldn't, I wouldn't be in this. I don't know, like probation kind of really messed me up, because, you know, I was going to get a job.

You know, I was going to like start getting money, just, you know, starting my life. And once I got probation, it kind of, just like, really messed up everything. You know, like I had to be home at a certain time and I couldn't do as much stuff as I used to do. And, you know, that really made me angry, you know, I used to just be able to do whatever, you know, I wanted to, you know.

Just.

Okay. And who's that to you? She's a family member in California. Okay. And what did you say?

She kept asking, is everything okay? Because she just started freaking out like that? my grandma wasn't texting her. And so I started texting her saying everything's fine. Where did you take Grandma's phone from?

Was it on her nightstand? Was it in her purse? It was on her nightstand. Okay. Did you take it?

before or after you hit her with tiring? It was like in the middle. In the middle? So she couldn't call 911?. Yeah.

No, we made sure that they called 911.

Just somewhere, you know, where we could just like escape. Yeah. Just somewhere where we could just kind of like escape reality. I gotcha. This is kind of just all I've been wanting to do for such a long time.

Escape reality or kill Grandma and Grandma? No, no, no. Not kill them. Kind of just like escape from everything. Okay.

You know, just start my life. You know, like, I don't know. I just wanted to move on from everything. Just my family, you know, like I couldn't be around them, because just everything that, you know, we've all been through, you know, it's just so much betrayal in life. Did Johnny have a similar relationship with his family, or was his more of a beneficiary kind of thing?

He wanted their money.

Well, the way I saw their relationship was his mom, you know, would get on him a lot, saying, you know, like, you're not doing anything with your life. Blah, blah, blah. When he had like, he just got out of jail. He had two jobs. He was back in school.

He, you know, he was, you know, getting his shit together. Right. And then, you know, his mom kept saying, you know, like, you're just worthless. You know, you're not doing anything. Kind of putting him down.

Yeah. So it was more of a hostile relationship between them with that.

Hold on. What? Okay. So the plan was that we were both going to get both of our families. But first we got my grandparents.

Then that's why we went over to Johnny's house and we attacked his sister and her boyfriend because we were, he wanted to kill his family. Okay. So that's like, we stayed in town for a couple of days because, you know, we wanted to get some money and we wanted to get ready to leave. And then that plan, just going over to his house, kind of just like, it, didn't work out at all. It just went, it went downhill from there.

Was it something you and Johnny discussed or was it something you just thought of? Well, I mean, we did discuss it, but then Johnny was like, no, we can't waste our time on them. And I was like, okay. But I wanted to.

That's the only reason why we get denied. You got a thousand dollars in cash. Did you spend it all, or do you have it all? We spent it all on food, money, weed.

I don't know what. those DA investigators, I don't know what type of, you know, how many times they talked to you or that. We're different in that aspect, okay? I'm cool as shit with you, if you're cool as shit with me. But once lying and stuff like that starts, I have a problem.

I believe that there were people at that house, okay? If it was, it was probably Lisa. I mean, I just want no, if or anything like that. Unfortunately, you're in this, okay? There's.

no, you know, there's no saving face right now, you know? So a lot of this was on the news, okay, as you can imagine, okay? So he's been getting phone calls about you inviting people over to your house, okay? So who was there? The only person who I can think of would be there would be Lisa and her boyfriend.

Okay, so Lisa has a boyfriend. What's her boyfriend say? No, again, you're saying you think they showed up. I mean, you have to, is that video from during that time frame, do you know? It might have been.

I don't know. I mean, you remember pretty good details. I don't see how you would forget this. Is your grandma going to let, real talk, is your grandma going to let Johnny and Lisa over at her house? No, they didn't.

She didn't even know about them. Okay. I mean, she knew about Johnny, but she didn't know about. So, for all these people to be inside your house, where are we going to? both have to assume that it was after you guys killed your grandparents?

I'll be straight up. Did we hear about a conversation that took place inside there, where someone was bitching about the smell and Johnny's like, no, dude, it's just sewage. There's a sewage problem upstairs. Is this not? That never came up.

That could be rumors, you know, when kids talk, rumors. That never was a conversation. that came up. The only, only people who came over to the house. So they did come over to the house after you killed your grandparents?

Yeah. I mean, all of it was like one big rush. You know, I don't remember what day they came over. I'm not asking for a day. I'm just asking for in seven days after you guys killed your grandparents and before you went to go attack Johnny's family.

Yes.

Well, just don't hang up on that. That's just rumors. People in high school talk a lot of crap, and that's just rumors that I heard. I knew somebody, I mean, I've seen videos and things like that, and I pretty much knew somebody was in that house. Why would you protect them and not tell me about it?

Let me ask you a question. You killed Grandma and Grandpa with Johnny. Johnny, you said glues and what we know to be caulk, caulks, the doors. Was that immediately after, or was that before people came over? It was before people came over.

Okay, so.

. I even poured bleach on them before he did that to the door. You poured bleach on Grandma and Grandpa? Yeah. And you left one of the bleach bottles in the bathroom next to Grandma?

Yeah. Why did you pour bleach on them? Johnny told me to. For the smell? Okay.

So, when did you pour the bleach on them? It was like a couple days after. It was like before we left the house to go chill with some friends. We did it before anyone came over to the house. So, you killed Grandma and Grandpa.

You basically grabbed all your shit and put it downstairs. Did that happen the same day? Yes. Okay. At some point, you're chilling downstairs with Johnny.

You end up, we're like, let's have some people over. Johnny tells you to pour bleach on them? Yeah. You pour bleach on them? Yeah.

Where did you put Grandpa's bleach bottle? We used the same bleach bottle. So, you bleached Grandpa first? Yeah. Then you bleached Grandma.

And then you threw the bottle in the trash can in the bathroom? I don't remember. It's like, all right, let me, it's more like a Windex bottle than it is like a tub of bleach. Okay. And then Johnny cocks the doors?

Yes. After you bleach them? Yes. Several days after you kill them? Yes.

And that was because it smelled and you were having people over? We weren't intending to have any people over. We only had come over just that one day, because we were like, you know, it was only a couple days after, so we thought it was going to be okay. Like, it didn't smell in the house. Do they know that your grandparents were upstairs?

No. They have no idea? They had no idea. I told them that they were on vacation. Did they go upstairs at all?

No. How long did they stay there for? Just for like a few hours. They came really late at night. Who else came over?

We only thought they were coming. It was just them. No one else came to the house.

And it wasn't until then when she finally showed a bit of emotion.

You know what I'm saying? She's just a close friend. She was there most of the time when I was going through the stuff with my parents. So she's really close to me. Not as close as, like...

Did she come over? No. Does she know what happened? No. Did you tell anyone what happened?

Not a person? No one knew. So I told everyone that my grandparents left on vacation.

It was kind of just, like, a day-to-day kind of thing. Like, what are we going to do today? Sort of thing. But, I mean, we wanted to get out of town as soon as possible. But just how it all just kind of turned out...

Thank you so much. I didn't really, like... I didn't really... Not, as we planned it to be. So...

So there was no.

. So you guys basically stayed in town after your grandparents because the plan was to kill Johnny's family and maybe get some more money? Yes. Okay. And it wasn't, like, a set schedule.

on Saturday at 5.

55 p.

m. We're going to go kill them, but more of a day-to-day thing? Yeah. I mean, like, you know, we were just planning on doing it at night, mainly. Okay.

So what made you guys pick that night? that you did it and not any of the other nights before? Was anybody going to be at the house? that shouldn't have been? Or were you waiting on someone in particular to be there with them?

Who was in Johnny's family? Did you get a mom and a dad? Just a mom, two sisters, and that's it. Okay. So we weren't really, like, planning on, like, what time.

We were just kind of, like, just going how it went, I guess. Mm-hmm. Just saying how it would go, and then it just kind of, like, really downhill from there with the bear spray and everything and the baseball bat. The what spray? We had, like, bear repellent that we bought from Bass Pro Shop.

What was that for? For the... Just to, like, get them away or to, like, kind of, like, knock them out. Okay. That stuff is strong, like...

Yeah. That stuff... Oh, my gosh. We have to get sprayed with, like, the obviously non-bear spray, and that stuff is strong. So did you spray it on?

Yeah, we both did. Well, I mean, Johnny did more. He sprayed more because my bottle stopped working for some reason, so I couldn't, like, really use it, and, you know, it was so crazy. Like, it was just all rushed. Like, it was just...

The spray was going everywhere, and it was, like, your eyes were burning. Like, your whole body was burning. It was so painful. Like... Did you guys spray?

Who got sprayed with that? One of Johnny's sisters and her boyfriend. Was anybody else home? No. Oh, God.

Were you waiting on them to get home?

And then, with Johnny's house, you went before everybody else got back for the night? Yeah, because, like, our plan was, like... Why didn't you want to attack them while they were sleeping? I'm not sure why we didn't do that, but he kind of said it would be a lot easier if we kind of just waited for them to each come home, so then we could... One at a time.

Yeah, and it didn't really go like that. Okay. Did you guys talk much about the incident, actually, at Johnny's, or? no? No.

We kind of segued into it, just because I was wondering why they stayed in town so long, but I didn't realize that was. the reason, was because they were playing with Johnny's family, too. Mm-hmm. Whose idea was that? Was that also talking about Petrie Ridge Park?

That was Johnny's idea, because then.

. That's why... That's the reason why he asked me if I wanted to kill my grandparents, because he wanted to already kill his family, and he was like, let's beat Bonnie and Clyde.

It's the true sense of a tragedy. Through family attorneys and her mom, we've learned more about Cassie. A girl trying to live life larger than the means that she could handle, and it got away from her in a bad way and in a hurry. They describe a long juvenile court history. Cassie dropped out of school and was put on probation in February.

They say long-term behavioral issues led to her grandparents taking custody. The family tried to remove her from a bad crowd in Duluth to stability with her grandparents in Lawrenceville. But there were at least 13 calls to police and assault charges for striking a grandparent and now murder charges and a mom who says she wasn't informed of all the recent trouble. Do not, do not, no one judge my client and the way she mothers by the actions of Cassie.

They also say there was some suspected drug use, but at this point, no motive has surfaced from investigators, family or attorneys. Live in Northeast Atlanta, Nicole Carr, Channel 2 Action News.

My mother and father were both kind and gentle people who love to help others. They touched many lives over the years and I will miss them. I wish that I could have been able to tell them goodbye and that I love them. Chris Bjorg was also able to keep his parents ashes and he admitted that when he is alone, he often speaks to his parents as if they're still around. But the emptiness their family feels, knowing that Wendy and Randall were killed by their own granddaughter, is profound.

Cassie, however, was never eligible for capital punishment because, once again, she was just under 18.

But as for Johnny, he took the opportunity to address the court and apologize for his actions, stating, quote, I would like to express my deepest apologies to the Bjork family. I am so sorry for the pain and grief I have caused. all of you. I know what I have done is abominable and evil and is deserving of hellfire. End quote.

During the victim impact statements, Wendy and Randall's son Chris said he was too emotional to give one. But Randall's sister, Sylvia, stood up and laid out all of the brutal scenarios that continued to haunt her. I just wonder how much vicious cruelty it takes to leave someone to putrefy. Did he die quickly? Did Cassie see his face?

Someone he loved so much. Someone he was proud of. End quote. Chris' wife also added, quote, It is sad to me that the first time they visit my house and meet my children is in a paper bag from a funeral home. End quote.

I'm 5'3", 115 pounds, with a petite body. I'm 23 years old and born in the year 2000.. My facility uses J-PAY but requires visitor approval. before you can message me. I know.

Annoying, right? Handwrite me a letter and I promise it'll be worth the trip to the post office. End quote. Now, as for Johnny Ryder, he is serving out his life sentence at the Central State Prison in Macon, Georgia. Both Cassie and Johnny will be eligible for parole in 2078, when they are nearly 80 years old.

But we can only hope that they use their time away to think about all the lives they destroyed, trying to be modern day Bonnie and Clyde.

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