Arnold Schwarzenegger, Week 17 Picks And Preview + Should We Feel Bad For Russ And Browns Are In The Playoffs

When is like, I just had a smile on my face the entire time. We're also going to do picks and preview for week 17. It's just me and PFT again, cause it is a vacation week. Uh, it's going to be abbreviated. We're going to fire through the Games.

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And let's get into it, let's let, let's get into everything we have. Joe Flacco, We're so okay, let's go.

Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, December 29th, and PFT. Joe Flacco is elite.

I think we're also in.

But yes, the Browns clinch a playoff spot. Good for them. Incredible season. They've been like the most injured team. It feels like, and like, we.

We've talked about it pretty much every single week. The roller coaster of their season, where they've had big win followed by big injury, followed by big win, followed by big injury, over and over and over again. Joe Flacco is their starting quarterback. And I feel so much more confident about the Cleveland Browns in 2023 than if Deshaun Watson had played the whole season. I can't believe I'm saying that sentence, but I fully believe it. Like, I think, Joe, if you're a Browns fan and you know the history of your franchise and you know how the season has gone. Joe Flacco, with how he's playing right now, is the perfect guy for this. Because you can basically say to yourself, like, what if he just gets hot?

He's done it before, what if he just gets hot? We know that he can do it, why not with this team, and he's hot right now.

He's.

Half a second later, he does the pick six, where he's falling backwards and, like two pump fakes, gets taken back to the end. So it was a very funny moment on on live TV, but the way that Flacco is playing right now, and he did it today. Without Amari Cooper, So last week, Amari Cooper set records. In terms of, like, how how many yards he had, he was just like dominating every single ball in the air. And then this week it's like, you know what?

I'm just going to throw the ball to a David and Joku a hundred times the first half and we're not going to miss a beat. And yeah, the Browns, like I put a bet on them about a month ago, 50 to one. I'm feeling better about that bet than I'm about my bills bet right now.

And there's a lot of quarterbacks in the league who might be better, like week to week or more consistent, but they don't have that. That, that thing where you're like, but what if he just gets hot? It's a very Eli Manning S thing, and I was actually thinking about it, like, what does Joe Flacco wins? If Joe Flacco wins a Super Bowl with the Browns? He has to be a Hall of favorite, right?

Then Cleveland takes Baltimore's quarterback and wins one. That would be awesome.

Yeah, that's.

That's all I'm saying, yeah.

So we're on Zoom. um, Hank and Jake are not here. uh, we're on Zoom, not Riverside, so it sounds shitty. Tweet at PFT and blame him because his computer, uh, had a corrupted file. Which Pft you? You weren't there for the very funny moment of Max and Evan and I were sitting on the riverside waiting for you.

And you texted me and Max being like Max, it says there's a disc server corrupted, and Max and I were just like, Max doesn't know anything.

I knew that for that, so I just, I just decided to put it on Max and that way maybe we could blame Max, but no, it's it's my fault. This is a computer I use for for the dozen, for a lot of the stuff that we do, and for whatever reason, sorry, if it's on Zoom, I will take.

So this is the last show we'll do on Zoom Monday, you'll get an extra, extra long show. We'll be back in studio. Uh, we'll obviously talk college football playoff at week 17, everything, everyone will be back. So, and the Arnold Schwarzenegger interview is very, very much worth it.

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Okay, PFT week 17. First of all, fuck you to the N.F.L. schedule makers. Uh, 10 games in the early slate, three games in the afternoon. They basically were like, we're going to just try to scramble everyone's brain in the second, the last big Sunday of the year. Uh, we do have a Saturday night game. But yeah, I looked at it and I started to count the games at at that, like one o'clock kickoff.

And I was like, What, what is going on? Why do they have this many games? Yeah, so it's.

Let's start Saturday night, Detroit at Dallas. I think we're both very excited for this game. I this game to me comes down to just like, how big of a letdown spot for Detroit? that's really what it is like, will there be a letdown spot?

That was obviously an emotional win, winning the NFC North. Um, do they have a little setback from that? And also Dallas kind of needs a win very badly right now. They're, they're not, they're reeling a little.

And they're coming down off whatever the opposite of the letdown spot is they. They kind of had a statement loss week. We talked about it on Tuesday's part of my take, where we said, in a weird way. The fraud bowl actually ended up making us, like both teams, a little bit more. Um, so Dallas had a very emotional loss, but almost in a way that should light a fire under their ass last week.

So I feel I feel like they're going to be coming out swinging. It's also the Jimmy Johnson game which has to count for something right. We've waited 30 years for Jimmy Johnson to get into the Ring of Honor. They selected this weekend as a weekend. Jerry Jones lets them in finally, which, to me, is more proof than anything, that Jerry Jones is actually dead and that Ai, Jerry Jones is now running the show.

But regardless, it'll be like an emotional Saturday night primetime game for the Cowboys. I think I think I liked the Cowboys in this game.

The the stadium will care, the stadium will care. The team itself was probably like, Okay, cool, we all, we all weren't born when this happened.

Like, I thought this was a dude that would hold a grudge against me for.

Um, so they are still playing for a lot, but, uh, there just has to be a letdown. I can't. I'm convinced that they're, they're like you. You do something that no team, no Lions team has done in the history of the franchise. And also secure a home playoff game for the first time in 30 years. Like everyone's human, if I did something like that, I'd take the next three months off, like.

Job well done. Yeah, that's going to be us after the Schwarzenegger.

If the Lions managed to go to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, I'm going to upgrade them to the potential Superbowl NFC team. Right now, I'm still like, I need, I need the defense and Justin Houston. Coming back in the next couple of weeks is going to be big for them, I think. And C.D. Deuce isn't back yet, so they're going to get better on defense.

But right now, I still kind of have that thing that you saw, like two months ago, where you're like, I don't. I don't really trust the defense against a good offensive team. So if they're able to come out there and beat the Cowboys, I might. I might put them into my trust.

They're just they're just going to give up big leads, they're going to get big leads, they're going to, like, it's just going to be. It's, be honest, football to watch. But yeah, I just we'll see if they can, if they can slow down the cowboys at all, I would agree with you.

Obviously the the either team could lose in week 18, and then that would, you know, be out the window, like, well, actually no. If the Dolphins won this week and then lost in week 18, the Ravens would then have the one seat. Cause they have obviously one less loss than them right now. That hard knocks clip of Tyree, Kill and Tua. When he was talking, he pretended to talk to Braxton burials, which we love.

Braxton burials. He's a he's a friend of the program, been on the show Thirst Trap King. That's got to kind of suck. We're like, you're like, you know, it's like the biggest play of the game, and he's like, he's like, all right, Reek.

No one look at Reek. Let me just look at Braxton burials and just pretend that, like, he's going to get the ball. Even though no one, no one in the world, thinks he is. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a it's a little bit.

You're good. I have a theory, and you can tell me if this is fan fiction that I've been writing in my head for the last couple of days. But the, you know, the. The defense coordinator of the Ravens is Mike McDonald. Yes, seen him on the sidelines a lot this year. He seems like the next hot head coach and waiting he'll get more interviews this off season.

Cause their defense, I think, leads the NFL and scoring, I believe. Great coach used to coach at Michigan. Do you think that there's any chance at all that? Connor Stallions has been working for the Ravens since he resigned from Michigan? I think it's not a 0 chance.

I actually this.

I mean, he's, he's Diehard Harbaugh, he'll do.

If you went to Ohio, public enemy number one, their defense has been playing lights out. I'm just I'm just going to float it out there with absolutely no backing behind it. Besides the fact that McDonald used to coach at Michigan and Connor Stallions is a.

And then the quarterback got hurt shortly thereafter against the, you know, the team they're playing. So the Browns to Sean Watson got hurt, the Vikings Kirk Cousins got hurt, and then the Bengals Joe Burrow got hurt. And so they're thinking that maybe it's like, a, uh, the. The ref was actually doing the Ravens a favor by tripping up Lamar Jackson, making the final score for the 49ers 19, not 17..

The Ravens are the best team in the N.FL, but they also are the number one team of like, look at their losses, they just fuck around. They lost to the Colts in overtime, they lost to the UH Browns when they're up 14. They lost to the Steelers, the Steelers team that can't do anything this year by dropping a million balls. They're like the quintessential.

If they lose, you can just be like, Well, yeah, they were fucking around, they should have been fucking around.

We should, seriously, yeah, I don't know you want to call, yeah.

You want to call Mike?

Um, but yeah, I want to know if if this is going to cause. He has the opportunity to turn this into like a brand for himself. To be like the biggest Ravens hater on planet Earth, which I don't think he really wants to do, but if he had a more shrewd eye towards. Like, carving out that niche for yourself, like you've got certain people in media that absolutely hate other teams skip. Bayless hates LeBron. You can find your niche and then you'll be that person like the go-to person for that. We don't really have a Ravens hater.

He's not, Mike is too honest.

I don't think like he actually calls it, like he sees it. He won't do the easy way out because it is easy way out where you can just be like, I think this and I'll just keep saying this forever and forever. And then if I'm wrong, at the end of the year, everyone's going to tune into my show at 9.00 a.m. And be like, Ah, you're wrong, yeah.

He could, Yeah, it's actually like.

And two has got a thumb, two has got a thumb, he's got two thumbs, but he's got a one thumb that hurts. One injured, I think it was.

And he was saying that, like, you know, there's people that talk out there and it doesn't really affect what they're doing. I actually think that, if enough people call football team too cute.

And then the Ravens, the Ravens are playing like the Ravens are just talking about how they're the biggest underdogs in the world. Which I don't know how you can still be when you have the best record in the NFL, but it works for them, so don't, don't think, don't.

The Ravens have recorded at least one sack in 32nd 36 consecutive games, marking the NFL's longest active streak, the longest such.

Saints of Bucks Um, pft. I'm going to do something really dumb. I'm probably going to bet the Saints, Yeah, that's pretty dumb.

Pretty dumb it is, but it's also like, this is the Bucks are good-ish. Baker's played very well, um, he should win.

Comeback Player of the Year Joe Flacco I No disrespect to DeMar Hamlin, but why is he winning? He should not win? Comeback Player of.

Yeah, you get the UM, the Demar Hamlin.

But yeah, if we're being honest, he hasn't played much. We've got some really good, deserving, uh names like, yeah, Flacco, but Baker, I would say Baker, like, if Flacco did it all year long, then that's one thing, but Baker has been. He's been pretty solid all year. They're probably maybe going to win the division.

I don't want to jinx it, but they have, they have every opportunity. Even if they lose this game against the Saints, I think if they win next week, they.

Yeah, so I mean.

It's hard to say that he shouldn't.

I named it after him, I said he shouldn't win the award, it is just a fact he shouldn't win the award. As for this game?

I'm going to take the Saints, probably because I just feel like the Saints couldn't be worse. And the Bucks are riding as high as possible. It's like a it's the combination, it's a buy low, sell high situation for, like, I, the Bucks are playing out of this world.

Good the last few weeks, and I think it's slightly a mirage. Like, I think they're a good team, I don't think they're as good as they've been playing.

And the the Saints are bad, but maybe they're not as bad. This is even me saying this sounds dumb. I also have a nerd nugget for this game, it's, um, the fact that the Saints, this is their first outdoor game.

But that's crazy, like, if you watch The Saints last week, I understand what you're saying. I get it. Where? With the Bucks, they beat what we thought was a good team, the Jaguars. They crushed them.

Baker's been playing out of his mind. Uh, now's the time where they should come back to Earth. But also the Saints have just looked real, real bad for the last month. There's no football analysis behind the.

I can't think of a worse culture fit for the city of New Orleans than Russell Wilson, with the exception of Maybe, maybe Derek.

I, I, I, I had a clip, this comedian, very funny comedian, went on a late night show and he explained it. That all New Orleans accents, like true New Orleans accents, are essentially like a Brooklyn firefighter with a couple valiums. Yeah, yeah. And he when he broke it down, I was like, Wow, that's exactly what it is. I hit up our friend Derek that we got to meet from.

Yeah, so I guess that's just a port accent, yeah and shout.

I want that I agree with.

He does get pissed in the dome. Uh, okay, next game. Raiders at Colts Um, I don't know, I like, I want to bet the Raiders. But then Aiden O'Connell still like what it would have been like. I hope, actually, I hope. For this game, Aiden O'Connell goes like a couple quarters without completing a pass.

If they really want to win this game, Mark Davis should announce before the game starts. Like, you're giving away a scholarship like this. This walk on now has earned his position. If you're looking for a boost, Mark Davis, go into the locker room before kickoff and tell the team Antonio Pierce has come back next year.

That did feel like a Superbowl for the Raiders. They were smoking cigars in the locker room after. I kind of have a a running theory that if you smoke cigars in a locker room for regular season, game the next week.

I don't know, can we look that up? I'm going to look it up right now. Okay, yeah.

Cause I remember Max Crosby lit up a cigar after that game, too, Max Crosby also.

They, I believe his first game was the Giants game, so they won the S, the second game by, uh, they beat the Jets 16 to 12..

Patriots of Bills.

I okay.

This game, I want to take the bill so bad, but doesn't it feel? And maybe this is way off like the bills? This is a game that, like the all the pressures on them, there's no pressure on the Patriots. They have to. They cannot lose this game, they've climbed all the way out of this hole.

And they're one game away from basically playing for if if the Ravens lose, or the Ravens beat the Dolphins. Or one game away from playing for the AFC East. Which we would have thought was impossible a month and a half ago, so it's like, I don't. I think the Bills will win the game, but I also feel like so much pressures on them to win this game. That a 13 point spread is a lot, 13 is a lot. Yeah, for sure, and all.

You can spoil the Bill season right now, and then next week, you can just spoil the jets existence and spoil their fans lives. Uh, but this is a big time spoiler game, so I think I'm going to stand by that take.

Um, I. I would not be shocked if the Patriots did something weird. Because their defense is really good. Their defense is not the problem at all, their defense is good enough to win football games. If Bailey's happy, gets hot, then anything can happen in this game.

Also Bill Belichick Like, Dude, you've lived.

You deserve it, do like a half retired, half coaching job, that's the dream.

I trust the commanders to suck. I was going to say, like, you go down the list, we talked about it. The Ravens are our true fuck around team.

Like, I I think the Ravens are the best team, but you if a Ravens fans are nodding right now being like, Yup, we do fuck around sometimes. The 49ers do you trust them if they go down a couple of scores? Cause?

I don't like the Cowboys defense, the Lions defense, the Chiefs are broken, the Dolphins can't. Haven't beaten a good team on the road. Like that's why this this season is so much fun. I don't think there's one team that you can. You could say, like, put my life on the line.

They win this game and the Ravens are probably the closest to the closest. Yeah, but then you they have the fuck around thing where it's like they do a full Ravens situation where it's like, Wait, they're the better team. But how is this game?

A tied game in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I think, but the bills there, they have more.

Do we even we don't have to talk about?

Yeah, I care I.

I don't know, lose, get a better draft pick, I feel like he's me. Ask me with two minutes left in the game and I'll let you know.

That's not nothing, right? So yeah, okay, yeah.

Roll some confidence. So if you want to win, I do think they're going to win, I do think they're.

And I think they are going to win. Um, cause I don't think the Falcons are gonna be able to run on the Bears, and the Falcons need to run to be good. And also, doesn't it feel like like they had a good game last week? What does that mean? That means they probably will do something stupid this week.

That's our Bears Falcons preview. Uh, it was a couple of games we could do that for. Rams Giants, Ty God is back. Um, the Rams, The Rams are dangerous.

The Rams are playing great ball, Uh, I think the Rams are I. I kinda like this over in this game, I think the Rams are gonna win this game. But I am a little nervous about Tyra Taylor because he is so much better than. It's crazy that he's like, second or third string everywhere he goes, cause he every time he comes in, he looks good. Yeah, it looks really good.

He just gets.

Now they're they're playing so well, like they're running game, they're passing game. Matt Stafford is playing as good as he's ever played, their defense is playing pretty good. Aaron Donald is back to being like Aaron Donald.

Although Rams PR might've jinxed it, I don't know if you saw this, but Rams PR put out a stat and they said. Quarterback Matthew Stafford became the fourth quarterback in NFL history to throw 10 plus touchdowns and no interceptions in the month of December. And a single season. Joining Aaron Rogers, Drew Breeze and Tom Brady. Ooh, it's only happened three times before they put this stat out, correct me if I'm wrong, big cat. I haven't looked at a calendar. And while we're both on vacation, this game is being played in the month of December.

Is it not? It is? It seems like they should have waited, they should have waited until after this week was over to put that stat.

It's not, it's not, it's not you. Yeah, yeah, he's just, yes. The Schefter just whispers, like, Listen, this doesn't usually happen.

You're just so hot staff, you just been so good that it just, you know, it's not that. Like, I swear, next time you want to go again, you want to do it again, you want to do another stat. I swear I can, I can last longer on this stat, I'll be good.

Just give me like 30 minutes and.

So it was their own team. Yeah, oh, I wish it was Schefter that was.

Um, I don't know why I thought it was Schefter, I had Schefter. Oh I, because Schefter. I have alerts on, and he said, the he an alert popped up on my computer and my phone. That the Browns were the first team to make, let's see. Browns are now the first team in N.FL history to make the playoffs. Such as starting four different quarterbacks in the same season, it's pretty cool.

Very cool. That's why I had Schefter on my brain. Uh, the alert. Schefter alerts are a blessing and a curse because you have to have them on for, you know, Sunday mornings. But sometimes they're just it's, too.

It's perfect. I'm not gonna put this out until I put my parlay in and then I'll drop it. The, uh, I think, the.

Yeah, he was like that in Notre Dame, too. He's a dog back there. Uh, okay, Cardinals and eagles.

I don't know. Eagles have to win by a lot for me to feel good about the Eagles. Yeah, they're going to win this game, but they have to win by a lot.

Don't you agree? Like, if they go, if this is another game where the Eagles win by five, somehow, I'm going to be like, Well, they're not fixed. It's a revenge game for the Eagles.

After the NFC Championship game, the week of the Super Bowl, the Cardinals hit him up. And they're like, Hey, we want to interview you after the Super Bowl. If we happen to have a coaching vacancy. And he was like, Yeah, sure, that sounds good, and then they interviewed him, I believe, the day after the Super Bowl.

So it's they want us to believe that. They called him the Monday morning after the Super Bowl and they're like, Hey, since you're in Arizona, you want to just swing by the facility? We'll talk about it. Um, no, this was something that was put into place, uh, probably a week or two before the game. And so I think that Philly's got, like, let's get some revenge against snake Gannon.

Vibes couldn't have been higher at that very moment. Do you remember that moment? Max Yeah, it was a great time, great time in life. Yep.

Great time. Number two is what do the Eagles have to win by for you to feel confident? And is it also just a terrible feeling knowing that the Eagles are going to lose in the playoffs? And you know, it's coming, and.

The answer is three 17 17 or correct 17 17 would be would be nice, or it like, never get. If it just never got to a one score game after the first quarter, I would be fine with that. Okay, like a comfortable win. Because sometimes the Eagles can, like, dominate a game and only win by 14 by just like, absolutely controlling the clock in the second half.

Like, I would be fine with that, yeah, Michigan versus Penn State. And they're like, Ah, we're just going to win it this way. What about the other part of my?

Do you have a question for Max 50?

Yeah, I do. Max, Is this a must win game for you guys? No, you're supposed to ask.

Yeah, this is painful.

We're doing one question for Max real quick. Do you have a question for Max memes here? Pardon my.

Good question, Good question memes, good question. Thanks for reaching out.

Yeah, no, most teams lose in this league, so the chances are that, yes, the Eagles will lose in the playoffs. So I am preparing for that, but I'm not.

I am not like, I'm not canceling out all possibilities here.

The Bears could still win the Superbowl. Wrong, That's incorrect, they're not eliminated right now, Max.

Max, What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on Gannon? Do you hate Gannon? I don't really give a fuck about Gannon. I I like Matt Patricia.

I'll say, I'll say that, yeah, defense is your guy. Defense has looked better past the past two weeks.

Good job you got. you found the right guy. Week 17. It took you a while.

It felt weird then, it feels weird now. But also the niners are just going to destroy us, the Niners are going to take a big shit all over us. Shanahan hates the organization. We've got Chase Young and he's going to be looking to prove something against us.

Uh, it's, it's not good. But then I thought to myself, if you're going to bench Sam, how? why not bench him for this game? Just like, Okay, he might not be the guy in the eyes of the coaching staff. I don't think putting him in this game is going to prove anything because we're going to lose no matter what. And also I think that there might be something wrong with him physically.

This would not be a good game to put him out there, let him get killed again. Uh, so I don't. I don't necessarily hate the move, it's just like a sad move for me. Because I saw the picture that the commander's tweeted out of Jacoby Preset, looking dummy, thick, by the way, I don't know if you saw that picture, Big Cat. He was like he was doing the the influencer pose with his ass sticking out in the pocket.

And he's, he is the Kobe, he's Jacoby Brisket. And, uh, it was very funny and I saw that. I thought to myself, You know what, fuck it?

I guess we're doing Jacoby preset. We want to lose this game. Uh, when the game is going on, I will be rooting for the commanders. But ideally, I would like to lose this game and then lose the last game of the season and maybe end up with the third overall pick. If my new England Patriots can do their part and play spoilers, so, um, it's going to be a sad game to watch.

I don't think that it's going to be particularly competitive. I'm not going to bet against the Commanders, but um, if you were smart, you would bet against the Commanders this weekend.

We're gonna do a combo game, so whatever you want to say, Panthers and Jaguars, Titans and Texans, all right, it's a four way game.

I feel like the Texans are more alive to me than the Jaguars are. Even though I think all the Jags have to do is they have to win against, uh, the Panthers, right?

Yeah, yeah, and CJ. Stroud being back after concussion.

Um, but yeah, these are the games that you have to just marry every hole and be like, we would kill for this game in July. But when it comes to like, it's. It's crazy, cause both, like you said, the Texans and the Jaguars, both are alive. But they, I don't really want to watch either of them play football right now. And maybe that will change once we see C.J. Stroud back out there.

But right now, it's like, this is, this is a bummer, these are bummer games.

Yes, um, so I. I'm just hoping for a fun game. I hope both quarterbacks look good. I will. Maybe we should reframe the narrative and say we get to watch Will Levis against C.J. Stroud for the next 13 years.

Okay, right? Let's root for health for all four of these quarterbacks, specifically Trevor Lawrence, who's gotten every injury in the world.

Still, frame the Trevor Lawrence face, where his face started to melt because he got hit so hard. He found, uh, the self, or the portrait of Pablo Picasso, which was like a pixelated, curvy face that was the exact perfect fit for it. I wish I was as good at anything as this guy is at. Just going back through his memory and being like that reminds me of this thing I just saw on TV.

Yeah, we try to do art, but make it sports to be like, wait that one time in the Simpsons.

Art.

Like, yeah, remember when Blake Bortles has had his tongue wagging out and he goes getting hit? That's what I thought of.

That was all just the one o'clock. It's crazy, I don't know why they did 10 games. Steelers at Seahawks, I think the Steelers might win this game.

If you can, if you want to tell story of the 2023 N.FL season, it's Josh Dobbs and all his like offspring. He ever, every, every branch of the Dobbs tree is just quarterbacks. Jake Browning popping up, looking good, Zach Wilson getting hurt, coming back, looking good, getting hurt again, coming back, looking good. Billy's happy, looking good for a game like Mason Rudolph and good for game.

All these guys, Nick Mullins, all through luck to lock like you can go down a Jacoby percent. Like, there's just a list of these guys who've come in for a game behind the key. When he came in for the first game, now he's back, like, that's the entirety of this N.FL season.

Is guys coming in for one start? Easton Stick? Like? It just keeps going on and on and on, so it is the Josh Dobbs.

Then we get a nice little like two, maybe three game stretch. We're like, Oh wow, this version of Josh Dobbs is awesome. Before they fall off and lose in a heartbreaking.

Um, just our own fault for the last like three years. And then he came in, played well and we're like, Wow, I guess we've really turned the page on him. I think we have another, like week or two of feeling good about Mason Rudolph before we're like, Oh, yeah, fuck.

Yeah, I think so. And then in the Broncos game, I think this is our. Oh, Jared Stidham. Yeah, he's Jared, he's the new Josh Dobbs.

I mean.

It depends how bad the team is that picks them up. I'd take the under, I think.

I think I think he'll get another shot, I think I think he'll get another shot after this next.

He had that report that he's gone from Denver, which I think we all knew. This also was like a very good test on the stats that you see compiled on Twitter. At first, the eye test cause, you know, there was that. There's the meme going around that Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes are the same quarterback this year. And it's like, if you watch the Broncos like they. Yes, it was great that they turned it around, but it was a lot of smoke and mirrors.

It was a lot of, you know, turnover, luck and Russell Wilson still had the same issues that he's had the last two years. Where it's like he can throw a deep ball that has like a 20 chance of getting completed. He can't move an offense down the field and he can't use his legs the same way. And then Sean Payton came and did an all-time press conference where he's like, someone asked him if Russell Wilson, it felt like Russell was getting all the blame. He's like, Well, I can't cut five offensive linemen.

I can't change all my wide receivers. It just went through everyone on the bus all at once. Great, great job by Sean.

But yeah, the math, math did not work in his favor. That's why, if you, if you give big money to a quarterback, then. They're always going to have in the back of their mind like, Oh, well, this is our biggest expense. What can we do to try to move on from this guy? Like, a little bit, a little bit too soon, rather than a little bit too late, and I don't know how that works.

When they ask because it's a it's an injury guarantee, so they want to make sure that he's healthy. Did they give him a physical and then he passed the physical? And they're like, Okay, you're benched a trick, flip physical. They're like, that's what I want.

Because if you're an N.F.L. quarterback, you should. A good agent should tell his client if you ever get a physical done. Like, always say that something's really hurt and then tell coach like, I'm going to play through it. Um, but yeah, this is really killing me, but yeah, I think I think it might've been.

And I'm like, Oh well, we got to stop at the dentist's office first. You think they do that to Russ? They said, Hey, we're going to the subway right now, we're going to get a sandwich. Oh shit.

Before we get this, the the the footlong, we're just going to need you to sit.

You want to take your physical? He's like, Yeah, coach, I'm feeling great.

Russell, like, Oh, I'm like a one, like, Oh, great, you're benched.

Like, you're ready to start, because if you're not, just tell me and we're going to take care of you. Uh, no, no, I want to start. I'm feeling great, all right.

Tough news, you're benched.

Okay, Russ is a scapegoat, but like, someday I'll get fired, it's like, Okay, dude, we know that. Like you, you basically have control of this whole organization for the foreseeable future. And you're getting paid a ton of money. So, of course, yeah, you can say that, but you're not getting fired.

He won 11 games for the Broncos in two years.

Uh, well, that was the switch over. So he was on the Eagles and then Andy Reed came in and they didn't retain his duties.

So that's kind of fired, right? So Sean Payton's like, you know, it's a.

Uh, hold on, let me, let me look.

Was his doing, uh, in his own, all right? So he, I guess. I don't know how the rest of his contract, how much is guaranteed. But let's just say he, like, if he makes, I think he's going to make a bunch of this. Still, he's so far in his career made 266 million. If he makes the rest of his money, he makes 477.

And you just never want to use it ever again. If, if, if you're using it at any point, you know that your job is not going well.

It was, it was fun to, like, walk.

Like, you had it pretty good there. I know that, you know, Twitter got in your head a lot and said, Russian cook. But maybe it was a good idea that they always were trying to establish the run, you know, even though they couldn't. That was probably good. We'll always have the danger, which, yeah, he, he definitely played himself out of a Hall of Fame career, right? I don't know.

That's going to be top quarterbacks all time. I think you had them nine, this was like four years ago, so I didn't disagree. Like I. I didn't think it was that crazy, but I think you had them like nine or 10. And it's like he wouldn't be anywhere near that.

Cause it was right when it was like, he was really good, he had a Super Bowl, he had probably like seven, eight years left. So you were just projecting and I, I didn't disagree.

I was just like, Yeah, I mean. Like, if he just keeps being this good for a really long time, the way that the league is gone, all like the best quarterbacks quote unquote are going to.

He was nice, he was a little bit sheltered. Yeah, the media up there was very friendly to him. We didn't get all the stories from Marshawn Lynch about how they wouldn't talk to each other, and how Marshawn had to, like, call his agent to talk to him.

And then all that's come out in the last two and a half, it was really. It started with the finger injury when he came back from the finger injury. And he was doing the simulated reps on the field, he was doing the fake high fives. That's that's when Russ turned.

Pretty quick, New York Media would have, yeah, they would have found that out right away. They were like, This guy's weird, and again, Russell, Russell Wilson is not. He's not a bad guy at all, he's just a weird guy.

There's a big difference. I think like, he's not, I don't. That's where I would start to feel bad for him, cause it's like, he's not. There's nothing about him. That is like, truly a bad person, I think he's just a weird guy.

Who's like, he kind of is like, if if, like Gary V. became a starting quarterback, where you're like, all right, this is a little.

And then if you show me how much money he's made, it goes down to 10%.

I think the chiefs are going to beat them, I think the chiefs. It's basically if the if, Andy Reed, which is asking a lot, if Andy Reed can be like, Hey, you know what we can do in this game? Just run the ball. Uh, we'll be fine, because, you know, we've talked about it. The Bengals defense is not that good.

DJ Reader Being out has been a really big problem. You saw it last week, the Steelers and Mason Rudolph and how they ran the ball. Um, so if the Chiefs are smart here, kind of like the Eagles, like, just run the ball, run the ball and win the game by by two touchdowns. And and feel good about yourself.

I would like to see them run the ball, too. I just don't know if the Chiefs are capable of getting right. They might be so wrong that it's just they might win ugly games, but I, I don't think that they're capable of.

So this is peak Covid discussion. You had, Russ?

That feels like it was a troll. We need, yeah, you.

Yeah, and my homes would obviously get ahead of them. This was before he won his second Super Bowl, but I didn't have anyone else contemporary against my.

I said, Bortles number five, Oh, he had Portals number three. Yeah, okay, I didn't see that.

Yeah, yeah, so. And Russell Wilson is nowhere near top 10 now. that's a lot of football has happened since, nowhere near a top 10 now.

Nowhere near a wait. So you, you like the Bengals or Chiefs?

It feels like Kevin O'Connell, who's done a great job this year keeping this team like. I do really feel bad for Vikings fans, cause this was this was the year of Kirk. Cousins stays healthy. Like they would not have been fraudulent.

They would have been like, think about how wide open the N.F.L. playoffs are going to be. The Vikings would have been absolutely live with Kirk Cousins and the way he was playing. And now Kevin O'Connell is stuck with, like his fourth quarterback, trying to be like, maybe this is the spark, he's just searching for a spark everywhere he goes, and it's Jaron.

Yeah, so the spread is Vikings minus one, right? Yeah, I think it was two, and then Jaron Hall made it one.

Jerry Alexander And we should talk about what happened with him, because it's this might be my favorite story of the second half of the N.FL season. He is from Charlotte. They were playing against the Carolina Panthers.

Instead of deferring possession to the start of the second half, the ref stepped in and said, Wait, what are you asking for? And and corrected him so that he didn't give them double possessions on kickoffs. I think we should investigate the refs because they let the Packers get away with.

It's been like, dude.

I put that on the other captains, actually, you gotta you have to nominate better captains and empower them to take leadership. When they see a fake captain going out with them, to be like, No, no, no, you're not a captain, we, we talked about it.

If the Packers had traded Jair Alexander, they probably would have gotten a lot more for him and they would have kept the the. The cornerback who is can stay on the field and also is not crazy.

Like the dude's from Charlotte.

Yeah, it's. I like the packers too here, which is probably stupid because we, if both of us love a side, usually we're really dumb. Okay, should we? should we do our picks then?

Let's do our picks. So I don't even know what the standings are. Does anyone know what the standings are? I think Hank's eliminated, I don't think he's officially.

Why don't we do? Why don't we just say, let's let's just give Hank and Jake's picks, we'll give them their first picks, and then we'll go from there. So Hank sent the picks to Max, his picks to Max Max. What are Hank's picks? Patriots Plus 13.

Ravens Dolphins over 47 and a half Okay, so that's their. His two picks and Jake's two picks are the Bucks minus two and a half and the Bears Falcons under 37 and a half.

So, um, Max, you want to go first and we'll go snake? Um, sure, I'm actually going to fade hank. I like bills minus 13, okay?

Memes.

I'm going to go niners 12 and a half, okay, uh pft. I'm going to take the Packers plus one.

Okay, I am going to take, so I got two here. I will go with, um, the over in Rams Giants 43 and a half, and then I'm going to take the Cowboys minus five and a half.

So Maxim means this is very important. I mean, it's going to say that we should do another pick. It's the holidays. What'd you say, Max? I'm just going to lose on the last second on a in historic fashion again in week 18 there.

That's the only way it's going to go. It's going to be me and Hank getting punished again, It's going to be it. It is what it is.

And then in the main show, it's I have 22 and a half points pft of 20, Matt Hank has 15 and a half. So yeah, it's okay, yeah.

So if he wins four, he gets 19 and a half. You already beat him, all right. So memes and max, what are your picks? Cause these are very important.

Shit you dick, I'll go over this game, sucks. I'll go over. 38 Falcons Bears.

We'll give you 37 and a half, cause that's what Jake gets, all right. love it, 37 and a half.

Uh, okay, those are our picks, let's do. We got hot sequel thrown, so we got hot sequel Thrones. We'd have a show on Wednesday, Hot Sequel Thrones, brought to you by our friends at Coors Light.

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They're huge, they're so strong, and, uh, 17 points is so strong and he's so strong. They're so strong and they've got great haircuts, they've got a bunch of mullets.

They look like they're ready to play. They were pumped up, they were high five. I was, I was sitting next to this one guy, um, who I think he was, maybe, I'm going to guess, was the mascot either the mascot? Or, like an equipment manager? Um? But every player that walked past him reached over to him and dap them up on the way back there.

Wait, how did you get?

Like, out of a gate, or did you go down, like the staircase?

So I'm, this might just be because I saw a bunch of football players up close. And I'm like, Oh, these guys are way bigger than they look on TV, they look huge. So I'm hammering Oregon.

We're announcing the Low Man trophy in the pregame, I believe at the Barstool Bowl. You can see on the CW same network as Live. No big deal, we have a winner. I've collected all the votes.

This week we have a very special winner that we're looking to announce in that pregame show. I will tell you the three finalists right now for the best fullback in college football. We did the we did the long list earlier, now it's been narrowed to three. The top three vote getters Ernest Crownrower from Texas, A&M Stone Eby from SMU and then Ben Sinnett from Kansas State.

And we have a very special presentation of a legend in the fullback community. We'll be presenting the award to them via video call, but I'm excited to announce it. It's one of my favorite things that we do recognize the fullbacks, they're an unheralded group of guys.

They don't get any of the shine, this is their time, the Low Man Trophy.

I'll be doing the anthem. You have to be in the pregame, in the halftime. I'll be on the call with Jake and Dave, it's going to be a great time.

We had a great time last year doing it. It's going to be a.

We're friends with Jason Candle. We gave the scholarship, the Nil deal. Uh, I won a national title there. I don't know what I'm going to do, I'm, I'm really, I'm really stuck.

I'm really, really stuck. You got to make a special house.

Yeah, tune in for the first.

Um, his story was more about how there's like, basically the the Uh beat writers are like, don't exist anymore. And like, it's a problem because things aren't getting covered. But it was a story about how John Moran called a referee a hoe last year. After a game. And I just that headline maybe laughed so hard. I was just like, Well, I mean, the ref was probably being a hoe, if we're being honest, right?

Like, do real estate deals? Whatever it may be, but like this is, this might be good for him.

I sound like old man there, actually. Minnesota. Did you see that? the story that Minnesota needed? Uh, they didn't have a quarterback, so they their third string quarterback had just gotten engaged. He's like 25, and he was like, going to go move to Arizona and start his life.

And because they needed a quarterback, they paid him $30,000 in nil money to play and they won't like that. Yeah, it's awesome, but there's something about bowl season.

Every year it sucks me in, it's like you're sitting there, you know, in this, this weird, like Christmas to New Year's like, time doesn't exist. I. I've had to ask myself, what day it is every single day? But you're watching the pop tart bowl, like there was a bowl game, you know, at Fenway Park today that looked miserable.