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Now, I can do anything. I like my friends, I like my podcast, I like my Jason, I like my Sean, I like my SmartLess, I like everybody. Let's go, it's an all-new SmartLess. Smart. Less.
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First of all, though, I would just like to say, really fast, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you.
Oh, Will, happy birthday.
Happy birthday, dear Will Arnett. Oh, my gosh. Happy birthday to you. You guys. And it's on.
May the fourth. be with you.
I know, which is one of my biggest regrets, that somebody came up with that.
Are you kidding?
That's the first I've heard of it.
No, because it's just completely, you know, taken my birthday hostage forever.
Not for me.
You're lucky. you're not born on 4-20, right? Isn't that what all the kids like? to smoke their weed on the 4-20??
Hey, man, I've been looking for ways for you to sound older.
Yeah.
And I think we just found it, you know what I mean?
How about this? Does this sound older?
It's also, but, Jason, for you and me, it's also, more importantly, it's Cinco de Cuatro.
Cinco de Cuatro, very big day in the people that know about Arrested.
In the Arrested Development canon, Sean, so thank you.
Sean, thank you for following the show. Speaking of Sean, let's take a moment to celebrate Sean's Tony Award nomination. I know. Don't wave it away. It's a big deal.
Yep. Thank you.
And very well deserved. Thank you, guys. Good Lord, is that show good. Again, just to repeat, anybody going through the tri-state area, stop in New York City. It's a fun town, and there's a great show there called Good Night Oscar at the Belasco Theater.
Some people call it Tabasco, but that's just so they can remember it.
Jason, do you know what the Tony Awards are short for? Do you know what the actual name of the award is?
Anthony's?
Close. No. Sean, you know, right?
Antoinette.
Antoinette Perry Award.
Really?
Yeah.
And, you know, listener, are you shocked as me at how smart Will, every once in a while, is? I am. You'd also be shocked to know that he's actually 67 today.
I wish.
And he looks fantastic.
You do have like an endless well of just knowledge and stuff.
I got a lot of time. I got a lot of time on my hands. Clearly.
Jason, I said to Jason yesterday, I said, hey, do you want to read this thing that I just wrote? And he said, please don't. Please don't.
He said, oh, I'm going to send you that script. I said, please don't. He says, what do you mean? I go, I don't even read my own texts. He's like, well, thank you for your honesty.
I just thought, you know, it's just a fun script. I said, there's nothing fun about reading.
He did say that.
Yeah, my parents really screwed me. Now, I'm watching Sean there itch his eye. Sean just had what we call ocular surgery.
Laser surgery.
We don't call it that, but he had a –.
And I can't read. I'm not supposed to read.
He's not supposed to read. And I said, Sean said – Sean turned to the doctor and said, you can't read? And Sean said, boy, do I have some good news for you.
But he does have a detached – So Sean's got a partially detached retina. Jason's got a detached personality. So we have – Hey, yo.
Detached-less.
But, Sean, you're still doing seven shows this week after laser surge.
Yeah, my eye. I'm not supposed to read or dart my eye around a lot.
That was the direction from the director? The doctor said, don't dart your eyes?
Wait, it was his note from the director and the doctor.
And I said to both of you guys, I'm slowly turning into my mother. I'm going to lose my eye.
I mean, you better knock on wood. Now, your mom lost her eye from cancer, you said? Not from a detached retina thing?
She was two years old.
She was two years old?
She was two years old when she lost her eye. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we're still looking for it.
And so I went in, and I get vasovagal. Do you guys get that?
Hey, man, we're trying to keep it clean over here, dude.
It's when you get nauseous and faint from needles or poking at your eyeball.
That happened to me once.
Oh, I get it all the time.
Happened to me once. So you just go out if you get nervous about it.
I'm like, I have to lay down. I need a fan. I need coolness. I'm going to throw up.
I'm going to shit my pants. We all feel better with a fan around. Let's be honest. Hey, Sean.
What about doing the show? Do you ever feel it coming on just with nerves for the show?
No, no, that's different. This is all doctor health-related stuff. I passed out getting contact lenses once. I passed out, like 10 years ago, to get Botox, and I passed out.
In fairness, you were trying to get it directly from the cow, right?
Sean,
what would have been amazing is if you passed out going in for Botox, and you fell and cut yourself, and then you had to get stitches, and then you passed out while trying to get stitches from the passing out.
I do. I get it so bad. You guys don't get that?
No, man.
That just occurred to me. We're doing a full talk show. We do a talk show, and right now we're doing the Regis and Kathy Lee patter beforehand, right? What are you talking about? I used to watch that show, and I'm like, how do they come up with this stuff?
Regis just comes in with his coffee, talks about his weekend, and it covers as full national entertainment for 20 minutes.
I could talk about 9,000 things for an hour.
I don't think people are interested, right? What are we doing here?
What Jason's trying to say is he's not interested in your life.
I'm not interested in myself.
He's not interested in himself.
Can I just say this to you?
We are going to get somebody interesting, but I do want to say Jason was so grumpy yesterday.
Oh, my. I was embarrassed.
Jason and I played golf the last three days, and then yesterday, none of us played particularly well. Tuesday we got to play with football great legend Gareth Bale, who is just an absolute.
Soccer for the Americans.
Yeah, I mean just an absolute.
You had to be like freaking out. This guy's a real prince.
God, he's unreal, right?
Yeah, you were a little nervous. It was like you were playing with Charlize Theron.
I was, yeah. Hey, man.
Wait, how does it come about? you guys just play golf with all these people? They just randomly show up?
We host a talk show, bro. Yeah.
I know, but I'm just saying, like how do you organize that?
Well, we met this guy up at some celeb golf tournament.
And then that's what happens. Hey, let's play golf.
And then we swap numbers. He's a good guy.
Yeah, we do. We swap numbers. We go like, hey, man, we want to play golf with you, Gareth Bale.
So if Charlize wanted to play golf, you would let her play golf? I don't know.
I'm not answering this. Listen, I'm now pleading the fifth.
So anyway, I was a real moody.
So he was a grump. He spat out of the parking lot to the point that 30 seconds after he left, I had to call him and go, hey, man, are you okay?
Why?
He did call me as I was getting out of the parking lot. I was like, oh, no, maybe I pissed him off because I didn't really say goodbye to anybody. I just had to get out of there before I embarrassed myself by like going into some sort of. I played a bad golf round rage.
Here's what happened. He went like this. I was putting my stuff in the back of my car. And his window was open. And then, as he's putting it up and his car is now in drive, he looks over.
I'm not exaggerating. He goes like this. I will. And then zipped up the window and peeled out.
And I was like, fuck, he went darker. All because you played a bad game?
Yeah, I just play too much to play that badly. And I just need to be more disciplined and I need to actually really, if I'm going to be upset about not playing well, I need to have a reason. In other words, I need to start like really training or something.
Jay, I thought about it. I thought about this. And this is not a joke. We joke about this a lot. We're going to get to your guests.
I feel badly for them. But I just want to say this. You yesterday, as he does this a lot, did this the last two days. It was like, hey, do you want a little bit of food? They got a little snack shack and I get like a little chicken salad, maybe a thing.
And, Jason, the last two days, goes, yeah, just get me a cup of sliced apples.
That's all he had all day. No way. And I'm like, he's starving to death. That's what's going on.
I still can't shake these five or ten pounds.
Dude, Jason, I told Jason. if he loses ten pounds, I'm taking him to the fucking hospital.
Yeah, you don't need to lose any more weight, Jason.
Sean, he ate a cup of sliced apples. That's it. I'm like, that's not enough.
With a cup of nuts on top of them.
Don't you get tired during the day from not eating?
Yes, tired. I came home.
You know what I did, Will? Here's the sickness. I came home. I saw Amanda in the kitchen. She's like, hi, what's wrong?
I go, nothing. I'm a disaster. I'm embarrassed because I'm in a bad mood because of golf. She goes, really? I go, yeah.
She goes, you want to talk about it? I said, you don't want any part of me. I'm going to the gym. So I put on my gym clothes and I went and I ran on the elliptical for an hour and then sweated out in the hot box for an hour. For two hours.
I just had to get into a deep sweat to get all the rage out of.
me. By the way, what you don't hear in there is any nutrition going in.
I know. That's what I'm saying.
His blood sugar is plummeting.
That's the thing. Your body is like screaming at you for like.
Shut the fuck up. Both of you just shut up. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Let's get to your guest, huh? Yeah. Unless you got some other.
Right. No, I do. I want to get to a great guest. But I want to remind anybody, if you're interested in what you're hearing, we have actual, actual pictures of us doing this. to moving pictures.
They're on max smart list on the road. The doc that me, Will and Sean are enjoying, but we're a little biased. We're in it. But, uh, if you're interested, uh, it's on max. There are, uh, our little docuseries called.
Um, you know, may 23rd on max was the day that that's right.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they all came out at the same time. And you can get all six episodes at the same time.
Yeah. If you're, if you're, if you're a binger, binge away. Yeah. All right. All right.
All right. Okay. My guest fellas, listeners. Do you like funny people? Sure.
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She's an American actress starring in a new show, which I'm very lucky enough to be a producer on. She's a new mom, an ex tennis player and horseback rider. She's a native Californian, a proud Sagittarius, and the daughter of Lane and Gary. Please welcome pure sunlight wrapped in skin. Miss Kaylee Cuoco.
Oh, look at her, go. Look at her Cuoco.
You ever been called sunshine wrapped in skin?
No, I was, that was so sweet. That was a first.
Yeah.
I was literally very much enjoying, enjoying your guys' car. I was trying to hold my hand over my mouth cause I was dying laughing. I'm so embarrassed.
You're the only one.
Yeah. No, Sean, at your disorder, which I think I have, the fainting disorder.
Really? Yes. Really? Yes. Well, then, that gets me into my first question.
During my deep research, cause I'm a crack journalist. You had a horse riding accident where you almost lost your leg. I'm not, I'm not exposing anything big here. This was already out. Oh yeah.
How did you deal with-?
You're never exposing anything big, don't worry.
So, hey, Will, that sounds like a sexual insult.
No, that's good.
No, I'm going to let you correct that for a second, because it really sounded like a sexual insult.
No, I just wanted to interrupt and just say hi, Kaylee. How are you?
Hi, Kaylee. Hi, guys.
It's so nice to be here.
I feel like we've only met once before at something that you were hosting. You were backstage and you were like in a complete blackout, it seemed like. Oh, I was? No, you were, yeah, you had to do a bunch of stuff.
She's probably focused. She's professional.
I've never been focused in my life. That is shocking. But it's so, I'm so glad to be here. I'm nervous. You guys, this is like one of the best podcasts.
And my sister, it's her favorite one. And she's like, if you mess this up, she has no respect for me.
Well, there's nothing to mess up.
There's nothing to mess up. This is the best it gets.
We're not going to let you get a word in edgewise. Don't worry about it. Yeah.
Jason's got a big question for you, so settle in. I hope you packed a lunch.
So, you're riding a horse. You're riding a horse. You're jumping over gates and going around barrels and whatever the fuck you do. And then you get, and then the horse falls, or you fall. The horse falls on, you, lands on, the leg, is stuck on, the leg, broken the leg.
Did you ask the horse, did you ask the horse, did you ask the horse, did you ask the horse, Did you ask the horse to get off? Did the horse get off immediately?
Wait, how long ago was this?
This was a while ago. This was, let's see, it was beginning of Big Bang. And we've been probably, I don't know, 12, 13 years ago.
Oh, my God. Okay. So guys, she almost lost her leg.
I once asked, I once asked a horse to get off during a Big Bang.
This is a family show, Will.
So wait. It's his birthday. He's on fire.
You really almost lost your leg on this.
Well, yeah. No, it was a bad accident. It was a very bad accident. And yeah, he, I had fallen, the fall didn't hurt me. He ended up stepping on me.
And I remember, I know. And the crazy part is- Sean just fainted. I remember when I-.
Oh God, Sean's down.
And he can't dart his eyes. So he's just screwed.
Scotty!
Scotty, get the paddles.
He said, don't faint.
Kaylee, how old were you when this happened?
I was, oh my God, I can't remember.
Early 20s?
I was probably 22.. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
So, so now, but you had to sign something before surgery that gives the doctor permission that once they get in there and they see that maybe we might not be able to save the leg, that you won't sue them if you wake up without the leg.
Yes. Is that serious? It was really serious. So I had to go under. I had to sign something.
Yes. Exactly right. And luckily I came out and I was-.
So, but wait, wait, talk to, do you remember, you probably don't remember because you were so under anesthesia, but when you first woke up, was your first look down to see if the leg was still there? You remember that? Yes.
Totally. Oh, my God. Oh yeah. No, I have a very- Yeah.
How, how, what are we talking about? We're talking about it's separated from your body? Like what?
I had a, I had a compound fracture. So, for those who don't know, it's the bone that comes out of your leg. Out of the skin. I know.
Wait, wait, wait, which bone?
Oh, that's what I've got.
My tibia fibula. So it was near my ankle and my knee.
Because my bone's always coming out.
Will, this is family.
Will's always caught with his bone out.
Yeah, no, right.
So you had- That's what it's called. Okay. Yeah. Sorry.
I'm going to have to update my-.
That was almost my first spit take in 150 episodes.
I'm going to have to update my, my dating profile. Oh my God.
That's what it's called.
Wait. I woke up and it was there. You're creating a compound fracture.
Yes.
Okay, so wait.
Don't come in here. I've got a compound fracture.
So wait, so your bone is sticking out of your, the top part of your thigh or your bottom.
part of your knee? No, no, no. Ankle, ankle, knee.
Okay.
Okay. So there was two. Yep. Yeah. And so it just was a horrible, horrible, horrible break.
And I had been-.
Why did you say it didn't hurt?
No, it, oh, no. It, it-.
It did hurt.
Oh, my God. I was going to say, when I fell, the fall didn't break my leg. My fall wasn't a big deal. He stepped on me and I remember clear as day, because it takes a second when something is that bad. I was like, did I, did?
I just fall on a whole like thing of leaves? Because I heard all the cracking. The crunching. Oh. Yeah.
So I was like, are there leaves? And it took me like five or 10 seconds to actually realize it wasn't just 400 leaves. It was my bones. Yeah.
I know. So what do you have, pins and rods in there now? Yeah.
I have, I do.
They're still in there. Do you set off metal detectors?
No. I always thought I would, but it never happened.
No, no.
Oh my God. What was the recovery like for that? Like just-.
You know what's crazy? So I was shooting, I was shooting Big Bang. It was on a Friday after work. And so I was supposed to go to work on Monday.
And I'm like, oh my God. They put you behind the bar, right? They gave you like a bar job.
Oh, my, yes. I'm like, I have to call Chuck Lorre and tell him right now that I am-.
The great Chuck Lorre.
Just, yes, the great Chuck Lorre, but you don't want to make that call. And so they literally didn't think I would like walk for three months. They thought I would not walk for three months. I was walking in a week with a boot. I was back to work in two weeks.
It was like miraculous.
Wow.
Yeah. I mean, I, you know, they always say the worst. And then I, I ended up being okay, but like it, they were very-.
So, wait, you, but you still now have, cause. listen to the story. I'm on pins and needles. So you actually have pins in there for real? Yes, I do.
Yeah.
They didn't take those out. They're not planning on taking those out?
No. I went back in years later and I was like, is this bad to have in there? And they said, honestly, the surgery would be such a pain for you. Like, if they're not bothering, you, leave it. So I'm, um, I know.
So can you run and jump and do anything?
Oh yeah.
Do you have fun scars on the, on the bottom of your leg? Yeah, I do.
Yeah. That's cool. I got some good scars.
I don't have any good scars. You guys have any good scars?
No. I do. Makes you feel like a badass.
I fell off the bunk bed when I was a kid and I have on the side of my head.
Oh, bless your heart. Hit the dresser. Oh, the bunk bed. I've never met a guy that fell off the top bunk. You know, they usually have little bars up there to help.
I had a bar on mine.
Although you just confirmed something that I've long suspected. What? That you're a top.
Yeah.
I mean, I was going to say it and I was like, you know what, let Will say it. I do have this scar.
Wait, Shawny. Wait, there it is. Yeah. That's called a belly button.
Shawn, you've lost so much fucking weight. I'm not kidding.
Yeah, you really have lost a lot of weight.
I know, but I'll gain it right away. Will, what did I get you for your birthday, Will?
Shawn sent me today, this fucking asshole, he sent me four large things of ice cream. And he said, this is what I use to get fat. To stay fat. This is what I eat to get fat. Happy birthday.
And I'm like, you, asshole, because now I've got to eat it. It's calling me. It's the best.
What kind of ice cream was it?
It's the best. Haagen-Dazs chocolate and coffee and vanilla. Yeah. Huh. It's the best.
Haagen-Dazs. So creative.
It's the best. You either go with the best or you don't.
You've gotten into it since then, right, Will? Not this morning.
Not this morning. I had cake. last night with the kids. We had ice cream cake, because that's my favorite. And yellow cake with chocolate frosting.
That's exactly right. Did you use the cake lady?
No, no. Mercy made it, who is here. And she's great. The cake lady's great, but Mercy makes an incredible cake. And so I will say, because we talked about it earlier, Jason, you going in.
I ate the cake. I ate early with the kids. And about 45 minutes after eating two pieces of cake, because one of each.
Night-night. I went, no, motherfucker.
And I went down. I came down into the gym and I worked out for an hour.
Oh, you, did. You have to.
Did you zip into the rubber suit?
Yeah, of course. I always wear the rubber suit, as you know.
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Kaylee, you always look so, thin. Do you go crazy with junk food at all, ever?
Oh, yeah. Do you? I mean, you know, I definitely do.
You know what else? Kaylee, you've got great skin. I've always noticed that about you.
Yes.
Thank you.
You've got really nice skin.
Well, that's so nice. Thank you. I know. It's really nice to have a work day this morning and not have to do any hair and makeup whatsoever. It was very exciting.
You know, that's on purpose. You know, while we get to look at each other, you know, it's like I don't want anyone to have to go, oh, your hair and makeup and the whole. It's the best.
I mean, you guys have to look at me, but other than that, no one else does.
Why do you have such good skin? Do you stay out of the sun?
No, I don't stay out of the sun. I've got quite a skin regimen on my little products.
But you were very good about putting on sunblock when you were almost a semi-pro tennis star when you were a youngster. Yes.
Wait, what? Let's get into this.
She decided at 16, I could go this way or we could try acting.
You were a tennis pro? I did.
I played tennis my whole juniors when I was young. Yeah, that's all I did. And I really thought I was going to be a professional tennis player when I was much younger.
Where was that?
Here. Camarillo. Yeah, in Camarillo and then Southern California. But I traveled all over the country and I loved it. And then realized, oh, my God.
And I was auditioning and working. And then I got my first show. And I was like, to be a professional tennis player, you've got to really just do that. I thought, I don't know if I can give myself to both. So I was like, I'm never going to play again.
And I put my rackets down at like 16.. But I played very competitively for years and years as a young teen. Wow. And traveled all over. And I loved it.
Yeah, I loved it.
That's so hard.
That takes so much training and so much dedication.
I loved it.
Do you still play a tiny bit?
So I stopped for years. You know, I think when you're competitive in any sport, it's not fun. The fun kind of leaves a little bit. So to play for fun was not something I wanted to do. So over COVID, my girlfriend, who is my oldest friend, who was my doubles partner as a young, when we were really young, she's like, let's start playing again.
So we started playing doubles together during COVID and like entered tournaments. It was hysterical. And I loved it.
Because it's socially distant, right? That's why you could do it during COVID. That's why Will got me back into golf. Son of a bitch.
Yeah, I heard that you had some rage, but that was an interesting story.
Real issues.
Which time did you hear about?
Are you talking about the time, the guy that didn't charge his Tesla?
That's one of the greatest stories ever.
Now see, that's a perfect example of me two years ago versus now. I exit myself from the situation before. I'm accountable for my mood. That's a way to do it. I will separate myself from people and just deal with it on my own.
I will say that he did approach all of us who were playing with him yesterday and said, one by one, I'm not joking. And he said, hey man, I'm really sorry that I've been kind of grinding and cranky today. And I heard him say it to the other guys. And I thought, fuck, this is a new Jason.
That's good, that's sweet.
My beautiful wife, Amanda, is teaching me how to be a better man.
Guys, don't fight.
We want to talk to Kaylee so bad. I just want to know, she had rage.
What was your worst moment? Did you ever say you can't be serious?
Oh my God. I broke so many rackets. I had a real bad attitude, actually. To this day, you don't want to play Scrabble with me. I am the worst.
You don't want to play Scrabble? I'll kick your ass in Scrabble.
That's how I get, too. I lose my shit. I love to win. I don't fuck around. It's not a joke to me.
Game night is not... No one wants to let me participate in game night because I don't make it fun for anybody.
Do you have a game night going right now?
Like in this moment?
No. Because, Shawnee, sometimes you do game nights.
We love game nights. We are obsessed.
When you say we, we're talking about Tom Pelfrey, are we not?
Me and Tom Pelfrey, we love game nights.
Easy on the eyes.
I love that.
Is that your guy? Is Tom Pelfrey your guy?
We love game nights. I met him because of... I have to think, Jason...
They met at the Ozark wrap party, if you can believe that. Oh, really?
You're the reason I met him.
Walk us through this story. Did he know you were coming? Or did you know he was going to be there? Was there any sort of set up there at all? I don't remember.
I'm sure you've heard this story a million times, but we have the same manager.
That past December, she had said, I want to set you up with someone that I know. And I said, it was too soon. after my last relationship. I was like, no, I'm not ready. She goes, noted, fine.
So in April, I was going to New York to promote Flight Attendant, and my manager, Andrea, was like...
You're so great, Matt.
You can edit the applause in later. That would be great.
And we put a little in for Big Bang earlier. Go ahead. These are great shows.
Please continue.
So she decided to come with me to New York to just hang out. And she goes, actually, my other client is going... I'm going to see my other client there. And she didn't even really say it was Tom. But she said, I'm going to go to the Ozark premiere, and it's during the week, and do you want to come with me?
And it wasn't...
And you were like, what's Ozark? Nobody knows what that is.
100%. I'd never heard of the show. I didn't want to go. And so she said, come with me. And I was like, okay.
And I went with her and got all dolled up. I knew I would meet him, of course, but it didn't occur to me about anything else. And when I got there, we were a little late, and so everyone was piling into the theater. I didn't have a minute to meet him, and I was actually standing near, waiting in the line in the restroom. I was faced away, and I overheard...
You know, he's got a very sexy voice, Mr. Tom Palfrey. And I overheard him say to our manager, where is this, Kaylee? And I turned around, and it was like...
She's right in front of you, waiting to take a dump.
And you were like, don't...
That's what I said, yeah. That's what I said to him, and he thought it was really cool that I was so open. No, I saw him, and it was like this, very strange, like the world kind of stopped.
Really?
Yeah, it was really wild, and he gave me this huge bear hug. And, like I said, there were so many people piling in, and it wasn't a moment to really talk, and so we all just...
My favorite kind of hug.
I mean, he just real easy with that quick smile, right?
He's got a nice... That laugh, come on.
Infectious. And so how many years has that been going on?
We've been together for one year. We got pregnant two months in. We have a baby. We were like, boom, boom, boom.
Let's go back to my room.
You know, we're not 20 anymore. We were like, we doing this or not?
So Matilda is a full month?
She's five weeks old today, you guys.
Oh, my gosh, congratulations. Thank you.
Wait, you had a baby five weeks ago? Can you believe that?
No, I can't.
It's crazy, I know.
And look at you, you don't look like you had a...
Tom actually carried it.
Oh, no kidding, no kidding. If a man could...
They're very progressive.
Tom would carry the baby. He is that obsessed.
But how do you have energy? Like, aren't you exhausted?
Or do you have one of those good babies that sleeps all the time?
No, she's pretty awesome. Look, I'm not gonna lie, we have some very nice help. I'm a big advocate for that. I feel even guilty saying it, but we have very nice help, which is why I can like... Our relationship is so survived because we have all this help.
with this baby. Listen, what about...
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I mean, if you can, if you got in-laws or whatever, I'm just such a big, big fan of... It makes you a better parent.
Think about this, in the old days. it used to be people all lived with their families in the olden times. And you had family around and family would help out, and you'd have siblings and parents and grandparents and stuff, and it would all...
So you're not at the end of your rope.
Yeah, and now it's different.
And it's great. My mom is here this morning and she was like so excited I had something I had to do, so she could hang out with the baby for an hour. So it's like, it's the best.
Now, does she, mom Matilda, like you would, or do you guys have like a little bit of tension like...
Don't start trouble.
Honestly, my mom is the best. And actually, so is Tom's mom. They are like, they come in, they help, they don't overstep.
Do they get along? Do the moms get along?
Oh, my God, we're so lucky. They all oddly look like each other too, and they've become very close. We're just like really lucky.
Yeah, you're very lucky.
We're very lucky.
That's great. I know.
I know, five weeks old,
I can't believe it. Do you want more kids?
Yeah, we do.
Sean, are you moving a couple?
Yeah, I'm moving a couple.
Do you have any links? you could send her?
Yeah, the dark web.
All right, so let's start with, now, Big Bang is something that was a big bang, right? It was. That was a phenomenon.
Nine, ten, twelve seasons? Twelve. Twelve seasons. I mean, that's incredible.
Now, could you have kept going, or is it like, this is the right time to end this?
You know, I'll be honest with you, and I've talked about this before. We truly, our group of actors, we thought we were 100% doing the 13th season. We thought, we'll do a 13th, it'll be the last one. And this story is not new. I'm not giving anything away.
I mean, Jim really did. Jim Parsons really wanted to be done and he was kind of the first person to call it. And we didn't know that was happening. We kind of all thought we were going to do another season. But we heard it at the beginning of season 12, basically after our second table read, we were told this was going to be it.
And it was actually kind of, I mean, as sad as we all were and a little bit shocked, it was cool because then we had like a whole season to really be in the moment and play. Yeah, it was cool. We could kind of like slowly...
It was Jim's show. Was it Jim's show?
Originally, yeah. Then it kind of became.
more of an ensemble show.
Yeah, he just was, he didn't, he was done. And we were all just, oh my God, it was so shocking. But then I think over the few weeks, it was like, okay, maybe this is the right thing. And honestly, I mean, for me, I wouldn't have even done, I don't know, Flight Attendant would have happened. Like the timing was actually amazing.
Yeah, everything happens for a reason, yeah.
Totally. So. we were, it was fine.
But that routine of in front of a live audience sitcom, that is a, do you miss that?
I mean, it's so good, right? I loved it. I loved the audience. I thought it would, I loved, obviously, loved the schedule. It was great.
I'm happy now not doing it, but it was such incredible memories. I mean, some of those live shows were some of the best nights of my life, for sure. I mean, my dad never missed a tape. He was in the audience every week.
Every single week. He had his own chair at the back of the audience. Yes, yes. Couldn't sit in it. The angel could not even sit, he was standing the whole time.
And what would you do before each show, with a little thumbs up?
He'd give me a thumbs up for Curtain Call every time I came out, and the crew.
The whole cast would do it, too, and the crew.
Yes, the crew started, obviously, with my dad, so everyone would do this. thumbs up for my dad. I mean, he was there, I'm not kidding, every show night for 12 years.
My dad came to, none of them. He didn't come to any of them.
He didn't go to anything, yeah. He didn't come to them at all. No, he went to Kaylee's shows. Sean, your dad went to every one of Kaylee's shows.
He was so wonderful. We love him.
He drove her dad.
He had a chair.
He was so into it. Wait, Kaylee, how many episodes did you guys do of Big Bang?
Oh, my God. You know what? It was something like that. I actually don't remember the number. That's amazing.
22 times 13, quick.
We did 24..
I'm sure there were some years. there were 24..
250, something like that.
It was up there, yeah.
It was up there.
300.. Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's so impressive, and it's so, and I am jealous.
Yeah, it's like once in a million.
Not just of the schedule, but of, like, kind of what Jason was saying, like, being able to go and do that every week in front of the audience, that's so, what people don't understand is how much fun that is.
Yeah, a live audience.
It really is so fun.
Yeah, it's so fun.
Now, when we're a kid and we're at home, we're playing, we're playing tennis, where did the whole thing for acting come from? Was, were Gary or Lane, Lane, am I saying that right? Yeah, Lane. Yeah, lovely. Yes.
Were they into acting at all? Like, who, how did this come about?
No, it was kind of, no, I, I did a lot of different things when I was younger. You know, my, my, I would go in auditions. Like I said, I played tennis. I went to, I had went to these camps that I loved. Like, it was, I had a million things.
I was doing. So, and I, it was just, it was smart, because nothing ever really got me down. Like, I wasn't like a child actor who was just acting. Like, I. just, it was another thing that I did.
And then, if that didn't, I had a tennis lesson or I went away for the weekend. Like, it, they just constantly had me in all these different things. And until it got a little bit more serious, and I remember very clearly they sat me down. I was pretty young. I probably was not even eight or, eight or nine years old.
And they sat me down. They're like, you're, this is a real job. Like, do you want to keep doing this? And I, there was like, not a doubt in my mind. I was like, this is what I want to do.
Tennis. are you sure?
Yeah.
Are you talking about tennis?
No, sorry. I wanted to be an actor. Oh, yeah, yeah. So keep playing tennis. Keep doing both.
Have the second thing. We don't, they weren't comfortable with me just doing the acting thing.
What was the first, what was the first real gig? Were the first, first real paying like,
Cheerios, something like that?
I mean, I did do all those commercials. I was the Barbie girl for like two years. I did like, a handful of Barbie commercials. I was in every single one.
Do you still have them on tape?
Oh, yeah, somewhere. My mom does for sure.
I want to see those.
I was the Oscar Mayer. I sang the Oscar Mayer song.
I did the O-S-C-A-R. give us a little, yeah. Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
how to spell anymore, an Oscar Mayer wiener. Exactly.
Yes. You sang that in the commercial?
Yeah, I had to do the whole thing and play against a fake little wiener.
Anybody?
Anybody?
I was tossing that up for you, Will.
I know. No, no, no.
All right. So then, so then you're, you're, you're, you're acting along and you're, was there, was there a thought, well, maybe I should go to college too to have, make sure I have like a backup or something? No. Did you go to college?
Hated school. So that was the one thing. I just was not, grade school, seventh, eighth, into early, I, I said, I asked my parents if I could get my GED and I was very clear. I'm like, guys, this is not for me. Like, I know my future is not going to be, I, I don't, I hated school.
I just hated going. I don't need trigonometry.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't for me. Even when I had to do set school, like the devastation that I had to like leave set to go do school, it just killed my soul. Sure.
So they let, they were like, I can't believe they listened to me. It's kind of amazing. They let me get my GED at 16..
Well, Gary's very permissive. He,
he was like, go ahead.
That's always been the bump on him.
They were so cool about it. I'm still shook.
Wait, were you, I'm, I'm such an idiot. Were your parents actors too?
No. Oh. No, they were not. my mom was, stayed at home with us since the minute we were born.
Jay, how do you know their names, Gary?
I'm just, you know, doing bits, you know, I did a little bit of research. I know their names and I'm acting as if I know them. It's funny.
Okay.
Gary was a realtor. Yes, Gary was in residential real estate. Oh. Yes, good job. Mostly in the Camarillo area.
Yes.
Wow. These are guesses. He was a,
he was a, paramedic firefighter, actually for a very long time.
Wow.
Yeah, went into real estate and my mom stayed home. I mean, my mom truly drove me all around town. Like that's all she did.
was drive me. Brothers and sisters?
My sister, yeah, my sister's three years younger. My sister.
Wanted to do the same thing, or no?
She did. She loved school, though. She went to high school. She was like a, you know, a little social butterfly, but she's, she's an actor too. She has an amazing voice.
She's incredible.
Yeah, she was on Mass, no, not Mass Singer. The Voice.
Yeah, she did. Oh, wow, really? She was on The Voice. Got through a couple rounds.
Now, with, with, with Gary's history in medicine, do you know CPR?
What's funny is we just learned CPR because of this baby.
Right.
So we had these private CPR sessions, which, by the way, was terrifying. I don't know if you, they're showing you how to do, like the CPR on the baby. That was, I'm like, I'm never going to remember this, by the way. I'm so traumatized by even doing it on the fake baby. So we did technically learn, but.
I learned it too, but I think I'm, I need a refresher, because I think I may have forgotten, maybe, because, like you, forget one little component. It's useless. It's crazy, right? Sean and Will, do you guys know CPR? No.
I don't, but I can guess, but wait, how to do it, but wait. In a pinch? Yeah, in a pinch, I can probably just guess what to do. You just plug the, you plug the nose, make out with the person and then pound on the chest. Yeah, you're right.
It's a Saturday. Yeah.
But wait, I always thought it was so crazy in like movies and TV shows, when people, you know, are passed out or whatever, dying and people have to do CPR and they're pounding on their chest. How does the actor not like move? Like, I'd be like, ow, ow, ow, ow, every time. You know what I mean? Like,
you're the worst actor. God.
Well, I think they, I remember we had to do CPR in a scene in Flight Attendant. I mean, they're pretty padded. I don't think we're just socking people in the chest. Sean,
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