The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 09/03/23 - Mayor Glenn Jacobs aka Kane, Julie Kelly, Sean Davis and a Dan rant for the ages
2023-09-03 01:03:27
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First up today, we talk with Glenn Jacobs.
I love this guy, good friend. Rising star in the Republican Party.
You may have seen him before.
He was Kane in the old WWE. Good Man has some interesting ideas about where the Republican Party's moving towards in the future.
We interviewed him, asked him also about the interesting transition between professional.
Wrestling and politics, and you'd be surprised.
There's a lot in common there, so check that out. So funny story for you a couple years ago. I'm at Politicon in L..A. in the heart of Liberal America, where we're on the air right now. Hello to our conservative friends out there at KABC.
And I'm at this event, I wind up storming off the stage because of two idiots I got into a verbal thing with.
It was a moderator and this dunce at MSNBC.
So I go to the next event.
I'm all fired up.
And at the next event, I run into this guy.
I was a big follower of the WWE. I just love it. It was entertaining, it's just good old-fashioned American entertainment at its finest.
So he's hard to miss. I run into him, he's a big dude and I'm thinking, Wow, I'm not really starstruck that often, but this is really cool. It was Glenn Jacobs who was caned in the WWE.
And I got to tell you folks, he could not have been nicer. I was really expecting something different. Maybe, you know, I'm kind of busy, and he couldn't have been nicer. And we've been friends ever since, that was about five years ago.
And we finally got him on the show. Mayor Glenn Jacobs of Knox County It is so good to talk to you, sir.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Hey, thanks Dan, I appreciate it. When you were telling that story, I was like, I wasn't one of the idiots on the panel, was I? No.
And if you were, I wouldn't tell you, but no, you were one of the good guys and you were so you were so kind and it's just such a genuinely nice guy. I remember saying to my wife after the panel, like, my gosh, I didn't expect that.
I expect you to be rude, but you're such a big guy. I mean, anyone who's seen you in character or out of character is Cain. You know, you're a really, really big guy. And you were just so pleasant, nice to talk to, and I'm so glad we've stayed in contact.
Let me let me start with this question, so you start in the WWE, your A&E special? By the way, I dM'd you afterwards because I was so blown away by it. I didn't realize how many stops and starts you had had in the WWE. Until you settled into this Cain role. And then it just became iconic. I mean, you and the undertaker, did you kind of know right away, like you'd really hit something with that?
Yeah, I unfortunately not had some success with the other characters when I first got in the WWE in 1995.
But obviously, when the Cain character came along in 1997, I knew that it was a big deal. And they were putting me into a great position where I could be very successful. I mean, the table was absolutely set for success, whether I could pull it off or not, I think it was a question that a lot of people had.
But yeah, I mean, you just don't get those kind of opportunities for those folks that don't watch professional wrestling. The undertaker is literally the most iconic character and figure in the history of WWE. So coming in with the storyline against him, I mean, it's like being traded to the Chicago Bulls when Michael Jordan's there, that's kind of the equivalent of pro wrestling.
Yeah, we're talking to Glenn Jacobs, the Republican mayor of Knox County, Tennessee, just a wonderful guy. I don't want to spend too much time on this because you've become such a prominent voice in the Republican Party. But a conversation I had with Tyrus, you probably know him from Fox, he's in a different organization, but really nice guy. And we were chatting on the radio one day, and I talked to a lot of your former colleagues in the WWE.
I'm not going to name them.
You know who they are, but they're all just wonderful guys. And I had mentioned on the radio without saying their names. I said, Tyrus. I'm stunned how many of them are passionate one about this country, but are real conservatives? They really love the idea of defending god-given liberties. You know, you don't see that in the entertainment industry, he said. Dan, There's a reason why.
He goes, A lot of these guys are independent contractors, they're running their own kind of semi-autonomous businesses. They're busting their butts. They're paying the government a ridiculous amount of taxes. And they just want the government out of their lives. And they're out there performing in what liberals call flyover country, you know what we call home.
And they're meeting real people. He's like, I'm stunned when I meet a wrestler who's not conservative. And as a guy who's been at the height of the industry, your thoughts on that?
Well, first of all, Tyrus is a good friend of mine, he was actually in WWE for a while while I was there. And I'm just so proud and happy of all the success that he's had, and he's just a sweetheart, he's just a great dude.
And our stories are not, you know, we're not identical, but kind of similar, you know? He grew up in a broken home and had a really rough upbringing. I had loving parents, but we didn't really have a whole lot. My dad was retired military and worked in factories and got laid off. And when I think about my life and the fact that. I've been very blessed to be able to have done what I've done through the opportunities that this country has given me, I'm a product of the American Dream, man.
You know, I failed at stuff and failed at stuff, and finally found something I was good at and I was able to live a life that I never thought possible. And that's the opportunities you get in this country. If you're willing to keep at it. To use your God-given gifts and talents in a way that benefit other people, and you're willing to work hard, there's no telling how far you can go. And that's actually how I got into politics.
When you're talking specifically about the professional wrestling aspect of it. We are independent contractors in WWE, which means we are not subject to withholding tax. And I'll tell you something if we would like to see a lot more conservatives in this country eliminate withholding tax and actually make people write a check to the IRS. See how much money you're really paying and then watch what the politicians do with it. That's actually what really kind of drove me over the edge, and I realized I'm paying all this money and they're just wasting it. And I could do so much better, not only for me, but for my community, if I were allowed to keep a lot more of that money.
Mr. Mayor, I say that all the time, I like you. I have to cut a check every quarter. The amounts are obscene.
And I say to myself, Listen, I love my military. I'm a constitutionalist. I get the idea post roads are military court system. I understand that.
However, 40 percent of my income, what the hell are you doing for me? I mean, really, 40 percent between state, local and federal. Yeah, I mean, they pick up the garbage.
That's it.
I mean, I've had the cops here once or twice because some lunatics showed up, but that's it. Like, what the hell are they doing? He's taking 40 percent of your money.
What the Feds do with it? And it's just all political stuff, you know? And none of it, actually, very little of it actually benefits people and stuff that the state and local folks, and being the local government, I know this. We could do a lot more effectively, at a much lower cost than what the Feds do.
Yeah.
We're talking to Mayor Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, Tennessee. You may have known him in a prior life as Cain, an iconic wrestling figure from the.
Wwe.
Mr. Mayor, so you are, I mean, you're hands on at the local level and I follow you on social media and you're a really deep guy. I mean, you really are into defending God given liberty you are.
This is not some kind of a schtick for you at all. I mean, this is, this is real, I can tell. By the way, you so passionately tweet about civil liberties, your thoughts about this metastasizing police state we're in now. The weaponization of law enforcement, the politicization of of of the court system. In some respects, the endless attacks on things like your God given right to self-protection. I mean, pro-lifers finding themselves in jail, you know, for trying to defend human life while BLM and Antifa rampage through the streets. I mean, the whole idea of a constitutional republic is that justice is supposed to be blind.
And that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
Now, when Thomas Jefferson wrote that all people are created equal. He didn't say that they were in doubt, or he didn't mean that they were all in doubt. Of the same talents and abilities, what he meant was, they're all supposed to be equals under the law and as seen by government, and that's not the case anymore. We have two classes, you know, the politically connected and the rest of us, frankly. And what the folks on the left need to understand is, as this continues, at some point they're going to realize that there are two classes the rulers and the ruled.
And they think that they're going to be in the ruling class, They're not, they're going to be just like the rest of us. That's what's happened around the world. But, to your point specifically, it's incredibly tragic and it's very sad because we are becoming a banana republic.
I mean, there's just no doubt about it. You can't speak your mind when big tech and the government collude to silence dissenting voices when you see what's happening. We are talking about keeping Donald Trump off the ballot in certain states.
It's insane.
But what in the world? You talk about election interference, the weaponization of federal agencies and deciding we're going to prosecute these people, we're going to prosecute Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Hunter Biden's over here. Just ignore what he did, that, that, that, just that it doesn't, we're.
We're in a terrible, terrible situation. And, you know, if this continues, we're going to go down the path that so many other great countries have gone down. Which is from freedom back to tyranny. We're headed there like a rocket sled on rails at this point.
We're talking to Mayor Glenn Jacobs, Knox County, Tennessee rising star in the Republican Party. But you ask anyone out there, they'll tell you to keep your eyes on on this gentleman.
Mr. Mayor, you know, as as a medium sized kind of place, maybe not really a small town.
Per se, but small enough. You, you see it, I mean, the principle of subsidiarity, you see it up close and personal. Which is the best management is local management, because obviously you get to know people by face and by name and their vote.
Their votes matter more, too, and that's a good thing.
As a mayor, you want to know that you're accountable to your constituents.
You see it better than anyone, but if we're going to change this country, you know. Jordan Peterson argues in his book Twelve Steps about how we got to start making our own bed first.
And I think the American renaissance is going to start in places like Knox County, where?
People just say, you know what, we've had enough. We are citizens of the United States of America. The Constitution matters here.
The sheriff abides by it.
I'm the mayor, we're going to abide by it. If you want to do something extra constitutional in your liberal city and burn that place to the ground, then you know what? I don't approve of it, but I can't stop it. It's not going to happen here.
And I think that's where the renaissance is going to start.
And I'll bet a lot of the citizens and your constituents feel the same way.
Absolutely, here in Tennessee, we look out at what's happening in other parts of the country to shake our heads. We're, we're a great state. I don't generally praise politicians very often, but I think our General Assembly has done a really good job. And frankly, Dan, you know this?
That's where the power is supposed to reside, it's not supposed to reside in the federal government. That's an organization with very limited defined powers. Most of the authorities reside with the state and also with localities by extension. That's what the 10th Amendment is all about.
And I absolutely agree with you. I think actually the single most important thing that folks can do is ensure they have good people in their state legislatures. Because we're going to have to states like Tennessee, Florida, Texas, South Dakota and others, we're going to have to build a firewall around our states. To essentially keep some of the foolishness out. One of the things that we've seen here is there's a lot of folks moving here from the blue states. And of course, folks here get nervous because they think they're liberals coming in to take things over.
The folks that I talk to, they're political refugees, they are fleeing the blue states and coming to someplace where people think like them. And I think that what we're going to see across the country is we're going to see an even further bifurcation of red and blue America. And the red is going to get redder, and the blue is going to get bluer. And I'm with you.
It's like, Man, you guys do what you want over there, but leave us alone here.
Right, right.
Leave us alone.
And let the people decide which is the best. I guarantee you we'll win when that happens.
Folks, if you want to learn more about Mayor Glenn Jacobs and you should, his website is jacobsformayor.
Com. You can follow him on Twitter. He's at Glenn with two N's at Glenn Jacobs TN, short for Tennessee. He's a great guy again, you know him from the WWE, but he's a lot deeper than that character.
He's a good man, follow him.
Mr. Mayor, I got to run. But I just want to say you were absolutely correct. I've seen the same thing down here in Florida.
There's been this big fear about Northeastern liberals coming down here, but the people?
Coming down here are the firemen.
They're the cops, they're the carpenters.
They're tired of that stuff. That's why Florida's turned blood red.
It's because a lot of transplants want to go to Tennessee and want to go to Florida and are looking for a refuge for freedom. And it's guys like you doing it.
Hey, you are welcome back anytime, by the way, and I hope you'll come back again. My audience loves you and by the way, my nephew is an enormous fan, my nephew James.
He wanted me to tell you how much he loves you, he watches you guys on video clips, you and the undertaker, so he's my. I love this kid so much. I don't have any sons, so I've kind of, like, taken him in. And I just want you to know you impacted a lot of people's lives.
I know when you're doing it, it's a job, but you're an important guy man. A lot of people care about you, so thanks for what you did and what you're doing, We appreciate it.
Dan I appreciate it. Thank you so much man. Thanks for having me on. I'd love to come back and I hope everybody has a great holiday weekend.
Thank you Sir, absolutely a done deal, folks. That was Glenn Jacobs, and you may have known him as Kane, but he is a really, really deep guy. Follow him on social media, you'll see what I mean.
He really deeply cares about this. This is one of these rising stars in the Republican Party. You're not done hearing about. You got guys like him and Mark Robinson out there, these are guys who totally get it. And I'm telling you, this renaissance is going to happen in small.
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Here's one of those epic rants you don't want to miss. Remember, do not comply.
Hey, you're all really smart people.
You are, I mean, you listen to Conservative talk radio, and I don't just say that because you're customers of our particular product. I say that because it's true. People who listen to Conservative talk radio are typically way ahead of the knowledge curve. I mean, how many examples do you need?
The collusion hoax, we knew that was garbage from the beginning, the Hunter Biden story we knew was real, the Spygate story we knew was real. I mean, you're all that much smarter than your dopey liberal neighbors who don't know a damn thing about anything. I mean, it's evident in the polling data.
Folks, but I hope you understand this.
That none of what's going on is going to stop until.
You stop it.
You know, Ben Stein's dad, Herb Stein? The economist said, We can't continue, won't now. He was talking about things like debt-driven economies that you can drive yourself only into so much debt. Until people start asking for their money back. So we can't continue, it won't, eventually it'll stop.
All debts are paid by the debtor or the creditor.
But folks, I hate to tell you, that applies to tyranny too. And you're living in it right now. And some people don't want to accept it. They still want to accept that things are going to go back to normal. You know, we're not going to have to get involved. I'm sorry, but that's just bull.
That's just, you know, you know the rest.
Jim was like, I saw Jim's, like, all of a sudden, Jim's creeping back into the thing.
I know.
I know it's not the podcast, the podcast. I don't really censor myself too much, I should, but I don't.
Right before I came on the air, someone made a big mistake and sent to the show prep email.
Which I read a news article was that you Jim, but about Lionsgate.
Lionsgate The movie Studio, is now reinstituting a mask mandate.
It's not going to stop, listen to me, it is not going to stop.
I work at this company here and things only changed when I got involved and took a big hit in this company to do it.
That's a fact, you lived through it with me on the radio. None of this stuff is going to change until you just stop letting it happen.
None of this is going to change. You will go through the same cycle of madness and hysteria, and just craziness and lunacy every single time. Until you say, this bull stops here.
There's too many of us.
Why are we doing this again?
Folks, it is time for brutally harsh political measures, political measures, it is time for civil disobedience en masse.
Listen to me, please, I'm begging you to understand this. You cannot sit on the sidelines anymore. I don't doubt that that's you. Most of you are actively involved and I wouldn't blame you one bit. If you're like, you don't need to tell me this, Dan.
I'm involved, I don't need to. You're absolutely correct, but there are some people listening who I swear to. You feel like, if I just shut up and stay on the sidelines, it's going to stop, it is not going to stop.
These people will push you and poke you and prod you like a Thanksgiving turkey until you're carved up and there's nothing but some dried out bones left. They do this to you because they can.
You may say, Oh, it's just one crazy Hollywood, it's not, it's starting again. Do not comply anymore.
Take this as a national rallying cry. Laugh it off, I don't care, but just do something. You think I'm crazy.
Fine, laugh, all you want, just do something.
No more forced injections, no more face diapers on our freaking faces. We are human beings. We are not going to be masked by a bunch of insane, freaking lunatics who think tissue paper over your face is going to save you against a microscopic virus from China.
It is not going to stop you. If you fall for this, you will fall for anything. Just say no. The left has worshipped the idea of civil disobedience for decades. Now it's time to take it, to grab it, to own it, to be it, and take it for yourself.
Lionsgate Productions Movie Studio You want to mess around, you think it's screwing around time. Make sure before you go to see any movie now, you check to make sure see if it's a Lionsgate.
Thing.
If it's a Lionsgate production, don't even give them your money, I don't care what it is.
Until you stop this, it will never stop.
You are dealing with lunatics and maniacs.
They don't care that that diaper on your face does squat, it doesn't do anything. It is nothing more than a symbol of how they can give you the freaking middle finger and you will do it. That's all it is.
These guys know this story drives me crazy because it has nothing to do with a mask, I don't care about a damn mask. What I care about is being forced to do something by a tyrannical government that knows full well that. Something they're asking you to do is entirely ineffective and tells you to do it because they want you to shut your mouth and do it.
Don't do it.
Just stop.
There are 330 million God-given, free souls who live in this country.
There's a couple hundred thousand of these idiots pretending to be in charge.
Do not see a Lionsgate movie and let them know, tweet about it, truth, social about it, put it on Facebook. If you do not, make an example out of them, like you did out of Disney and Target and Bud Light and these others.
If you do not teach one of them a lesson, the others will fall in line because they.
Are weak and stupid.
I am tired of these people, I'm tired of being told what to do by people dumber than me. Folks. I'm a guy of average intelligence. I tried to get into medical school, it didn't work.
Okay, I do not have a 170 IQ. I just read a lot of stuff because I'm curious about the world. I am tired of being tired of people in charge of my life with air quotes who are freaking idiots.
Oatmeal brains in the White House showing up at the most catastrophic disaster in the history of Hawaii. Telling a bull story about his house nearly burning down while people.
Lost their kids saying how he almost lost his cat ruffles or whatever the hell, the.
Cat's name was Nobody gives a damn about Ruffles, Dude. These people lost their kids in a fire, their homes, their lives, their moms, their dads. No one wants to hear about oatmeal brains Cat Ruffles. How he almost died in a freaking small kitchen fire 20 years ago. You dipstick.
We are being led by a-holes, by stupid people.
Do not comply anymore.
I just thought about this today.
I've got a dermatology appointment for this skin cancer thing coming up soon. I check all the time.
That office does this whole mass craziness.
That's it.
New doctor don't comply anymore.
Don't do the stupid anymore.
And anyone who pulls the stupid, take your money and go somewhere else.
Folks, this should be civil disobedience on a mass scale. If not now, when, how much more of this are you going to take, folks? Once one of them gets away with it, we will be right back where we were on the 15 days to stop the spread, which turned into total tyranny in this country.
Closing schools, arresting people for surfing out in the ocean by themselves. That happened here, that wasn't North Korea, man, that happened here.
That happened here.
You can't let it happen again, you can't.
They are ramping up this Covid hysteria because there's an election coming up. And you've got a kid sniffing, plagiarizing, sociopathic, lying, showering with his daughter, bribe-taking oatmeal. Brains loser in the White House, who has almost zero chance of winning, their only chance is Covid craziness and a mass mail-in ballot election. And if you let the craziness go, it is going to grow like a metastasizing tumor inside this body politic, and you're not going to be able to stop it.
You have a chance to stop it now.
Send Lionsgate Studios a tweet, a true social, an email.
You will not see any of their films. They want to enforce this tyranny and be the first one out of the gate, then they're going to be the first one to be made an example of.
Ask every presidential candidate what they think about it.
Folks, I've never seen something so stupid in my life. I've never seen something as dumb as this. How tyranny starts so easily. You understand the government, every single serious health care public official in the government knows and is laughing at. The fact is mocking you for putting that mask on. They know this thing doesn't do anything. Can you imagine putting on a condom and getting everyone you were with pregnant?
Would you wear it again? No, so how come everyone who wore a mask got Covid morons? It doesn't freaking work.
Nearly everyone in the United States who put a mask on got Covid. It's not even close.
Imagine putting that on your thing and you get syphilis the next day. Well, that didn't work.
Why would you wear it again?
Jim, what do you love? I'm dead serious. Maybe it'll wake up the morons on the liberal side listening to the show right now, who are so stupid that they can't do simple logic and reason. I wear a mask every day, you get Covid.
I got it twice. Oh, that did great, that did great. I got vaccinated too in 72 boosters. This is my seventh time with Covid.
It worked out great, yeah.
You're real smart.
Yeah, right.
Mild case of vaccine.
The seventh time was no big deal. I thought I had allergies. It's working great, it's working great.
Don't comply, man, don't comply, I'm sorry, but you comply, you're playing into this whole thing.
Listen, I told you my story going through the cancer thing, the people in the chemo room and stuff. But I can't tell you how many stores I walked out of. Me and my wife both. We were in a mall down in Palm Beach. Guy in the Apple store, security guy can't come in without a mask, he said. Guess I can't come in. He's like, but I love your show, I said, Love you too bro.
Don't matter, I'm still not coming in.
Don't do it, man.
You got to stop this here.
You got to stop this right now, you have to stop it right now. This tumor will not stop growing.
You can't tell me these stories before the show, I just get so pissed off, man, I can't. I just can't take it. How we just so easily fell into tyranny and so many people took it.
You all fought back.
Unfortunately, the fight's not over, we're going to have to do it again. Hey, I'm long on America, but you still have time to put up a fight. Don't comply up. Next. Another great guest.
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Here we talk with Julie Kelly, who's one of the only reporters out there accurately covering.
The police statements going on with the January 6th defendants and the war on Donald Trump. She has some fascinating information, she's actually been there for some of these trials, she's doing really great work.
So, unfortunately, there aren't a lot of journalists left.
Matter of fact, I could probably count on my two hands, maybe some toes. How many there are left? But one of them that's been doing just Yeoman's work on the scandal involving the persecution of a lot of people. Sitting in a D...C. gulag that are involved on January 6th is Julie Kelly, Julie Kelly, Darren Beattie and others are some of the few who've actually kept on top of this. She has a book out.
It's been out for a while, but it is the definitive account of January 6th. And you might have a hard time finding it because it's called January 6th. And you should pick it up. Welcoming back to the show the great Julie Kelly Julie, thanks for coming on. we appreciate you doing this last minute. thanks a lot.
Oh, I'm always happy to be on Dan, thanks so much for inviting me.
Oh, of course, so I follow you religiously on Twitter and Truth because you're just always a source of incredible information. I think my audience needs to hear, and I'm not ashamed to say it, one of my show prep sources to go to is you.
Matter of fact, one of the portions of today's show I covered and the Reason I want to have.
You on was due to a tweet you had sent out yesterday. This abomination of a judge, and I use that term judge loosely. Judge Chutkin, who is clearly a political activist in D..C. So yesterday there was a court filing and you got a hold of the transcript and it's.
Just incredible that the government is now acknowledging in the persecution of Donald Trump in Washington, D.
C.
That there is not a single case they have ever pushed to trial.
In five months, from indictment to trial, like they're doing with Donald Trump.
Not one Julie of the tens of thousands. This is the first time they're doing it and they're not even shy about it. And it's sitting right there in the filing.
I mean, this is an obvious election interference effort and an effort to get ahead of the case in Florida, isn't it?
It is Dan, and I just posted the full transcript. You have to buy transcripts. So I bought it and I was going to write an article on it. But nothing I could say Dan can do. Tanya Chutkin's words Justice. So I posted the full transcript on my sub staff declassified with Julie Kelly. People have to read this. Aside from the screenshots I posted yesterday, it's not just Dan that. She admitted that there is not a single incident or example of a case in D..C.
Federal court going from indictment to trial in five months, which then she pushed seven months, thinking she's a big hero, I will tell you. In covering January 6 cases, the average time is about 14 months, and in high profile cases, say the oath keepers and Proud Boys. It was almost two years before they went to trial. So, the idea that Donald Trump is expected to be ready to go to trial in March, have pretrial motions ready in December. And the discovery in this case is already 12 million plus pages. And she's actually one of the most outlandish things. She said in court on Monday. Was scolding Trump's lawyers asking why they hadn't been preparing for this case for a year? That's what she said.
JULIe, Even CNN, did you see the clip? Even CNN, that disgrace of a fake news outlet? I don't know if you saw the clip. Even the CNN legal guy was like, Judge, that's not the way this works. Okay, I don't like, Hey, I want to lock up Julie Kelly for a fake crime. She doesn't know it's coming, but her lawyers should be preparing for it right now.
That's not how any of this works, Julie, at all.
And you could tell John Laureau, Trump's attorney, was completely gobsmacked at the idea that a federal judge is sitting there telling him that. First of all, you should have been preparing for this case a year ago, even though he was just hired a month and a half ago, of course, the indictment was handed down on August 1st, but also going along with Jack Smith's claim that, well, you don't need to look at all of the discovery. Because a lot of this comes from Donald Trump's own entities, and it comes from the January 6th committee report, so you guys already have all of this, it's publicly available. That's what they said. Well, John Laureau said. Well, we didn't know what the charges were going to be. We don't know what evidence you're going to use as your case-in-chief, what you're going to present to the jury.
We can go through the entire January 6th committee report, who knows? 250 plus witnesses, grand jury testimony, subpoenas, F.BI documents that they're expected to go through before December and January. Make pre-trial motions and then proceed with jury selection. She is. When I saw her name appear on the docket, Dan, I thought, Oh God, Trump is doomed. I don't think he could do any worse. He really couldn't do any worse for picking any judge in the country.
No, no, no, forget any judge, Julie, any person with no legal experience at all. And you could just randomly, you know, the William F. Buckley approach, pick out the phone book, go this guy, you could. This is clearly a far left radical activist with no constitutional moorings whatsoever. I want to bring up two points on this, what you just said talking to Julie Kelly, author.
Of the definitive book on January 6th, called January 6th, Pick it up.
By the way, Julie, not to get off track, but Julie and I worked on a project together, some cinematography, and that'll be coming out soon, so we'll have you on. Yeah, Julie knows what I'm talking about. It's like a movie kind of thingy. So let me tell you something you think you know the story about what's happening.
You ain't seen squat, so you might see Julie in an appearance in that, and it's it's good. I got kind of a sneak peek, let's say, but Julie? A couple of points.
Oh, yeah, I did, I saw. Oh yeah, oh, it is just can't wait.
Let me tell you something.
My wife was crying at the end, crying.
It's that emotionally moving. oh oh oh, wait, you'll. you'll see exactly what I'm talking about, it is that it's that moving.
So this is a ridiculous claim, so the government is now saying in the persecution of Trump. Because the documents were in your possession, you're supposed to understand what the evidence is and already know it. And I thought of an analogy. As a federal agent, I did a lot of bank fraud cases, imagine they said that about a bank fraud case that Julie Kelly say received a deposit.
From a Nigerian prince seven years ago.
And the government just found this out. Like you don't know that, like you just found this money in your bank account, maybe it was $20, you didn't even notice.
And now you're being charged with conspiracy and the government. No, no, no, no, your lawyers don't need to review this. The bank records were in your possession. The point is, yes, they were in your possession, but they weren't being used against you as evidence in a crime.
That's totally different. That is a ridiculous assertion for the government to make.
And even worse, the worst thing that she said in that hearing, if you can imagine, there was something worse. She compared January 6th to 9-11 and the Boston Marathon bombing. What a disgrace. What an insult to the thousands of people killed on 9-11. The eight year old little boy who was murdered at the Boston marathon bombing. And here she is basically comparing Donald Trump to the 9-11 hijackers and to the Tsarnaev brothers who, you know, legitimately terrorized the city of Boston. Not just killing three people, but injuring hundreds of people.
So this is the kind of lunatic that Donald Trump has to deal with in this case, and it's not, you know? Her? Setting the trial date in March is probably one of the least offensive things that she said or did in that hearing. But Dan I also poured through thousands of pages of transcripts from January 6th cases in her courtroom. And I have a full report at Real Clear Investigations. Talking about more outrageous comments that she's made in court, suggesting Donald Trump should be behind bars. Upset that he hadn't been charged already for January 6th and calling January 6th an attempt to overthrow democracy. That it's one of the worst crime scenes she's ever seen. As a former public defender in Washington, D..C. she said, January 6th The Capitol is one of the worst crime scenes she's ever seen.
She can barely look at the videos.
Now, the woman, the woman's an activist.
She's not a serious person.
I'm going to get that. Do me a favor, Julie, text me that article because I'll tweet it.
Out during the break here.
I want to get to something else though, too, because I don't want to leave these guys.
Behind, Like I said, Julie and I have been involved in a project. Let's say it's going to be coming out shortly, We'll have some announcements about it. It is one of the most I think important projects I've ever been involved in.
And it describes the plight of a lot of people who during January 6th were tried like animals, were treated like animals. Despite the fact that BLM and Antifa roam free, roam free to terrorize the countryside and the cities.
You've got people, you had, people who've killed themselves, literally killed themselves. Yes, the stories are incredible. And you bring up because you're not letting up, you're a bulldog, you're not letting up on this one bit. The two completely disparate systems of justice we have, where, in one case, Judge Chutkan needs to speed up the trial to get ahead of the Florida trial. So she?
Can screw Trump over for the election?
Yet in the other case, with January, 6th, Julie, it's kind of weird. They're not in any rush to get these people out of the gulag and get them to trial. And then one other thing I want you to address, they're adding domestic terrorism.
Enhancers explain if you could.
Yes, so what I was here for in D..C. this week was the sentencing of five members of the Proud Boys, four of whom were convicted by D..C. during April of seditious conspiracy. What this DOJ is doing? Matthew Graves, the D..C.
U.
S attorney, who you'll recall, declined to prosecute Hunter Biden for his tax crimes, nonetheless continues to round up January 6th to this day. So he has been bringing what's called domestic terror enhancements to sentencing, asking for excessive prison time for people who are convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding or seditious conspiracy. This is the case with the Proud Boys. But the trick is, Dan, and what I'll tell you, you know, I've been covering these cases for over two and a half years.
Yesterday was probably the worst day I've ever had, just personally sitting there, seeing these men, these proud boys, so broken. They didn't commit any violent crimes. They walked into a building. Yes, with some of their language. Inflammatory is the things you and I wouldn't be saying in private chats.
Sure, but they're broken, they're an orange jumpsuit. Four of the men have been in jail since for two and a half over two and a half years since their arrest in January and February. They're completely broken.
Their family members could not even stand to go to the hear. The pre-sentencing hearing yesterday, where Judge Tim Kelly, a Trump appointed judge, an alleged conservative who has denied these men's rights, kept them in jail. Like you said, as like animals, and then, of course, convicted quickly by a D.
C based Jury Dan. He spent almost three hours reading an oral ruling regurgitating every facet of the government's case against the Proud Boys. Talking about the idea that rattling a fence or someone breaking a pane of a window in a Capitol can now be considered a crime of domestic terror. This is what Judge Tim Kelly is prepared to do now. Amit Mehta, another Obama judge, has already done this in the Oath Keepers case.
But the idea that a so-called conservative judge, who has acted as nothing more than a rubber stamp for DOJ. An extra prosecutor as one attorney, told me that he is going to now be poised to go along with DOJ. Using these petty offenses, low level offenses, list them to the you know what has to meet a crime of domestic terrorism. Think about the dangerous precedents that this is setting, not just in Washington, D..C. but federal courts across the country. And I'll tell you, yesterday was probably one of the worst days. And a defense attorney walked out and looked at me and said, What you just saw was the end of a once great country.
Yeah, I could I follow you, like I said religiously on on Twitter, and I could see, I mean, I could see you. Folks. You can check out her writing Yes, you were just pissed.
I mean, there's no you I could tell you, would you, because you've been, no one's been on.
This outside of you and Darren, I mean, I know other people care about it.
I'm not implying we're the only ones who give a damn, but there's no one who's covered as extensively as you two.
You've lived and breathed with this case. Julie, let me ask you the last question. I only got about a minute left. But there is no justice in D..C.
Anymore, I hate to say this, and they wanted it that way, but you're not safe there as a.
Conservative? You will receive no due process, you have no right to an attorney, as they proved in the Donald Trump case. The Constitution, I hate to tell you, has been declared null and void in D..C. if you're the wrong political stripe.
That's right, and for those who thought this would just apply to January 6th. Five pro-life activists who were charged by the C.O...J are now rotting in a D..C jail after being convicted by a D..C jury.
And the judge, another Clinton judge I believe, took them immediately into custody. They will be in jail awaiting their sentencing now for blockading a planned parenthood.
Face act a face act a nonsense, face at garbage. That Markel case. I mean, just you have no rights there, folks. I wish the Constitution is.
It's a suggestion only in Washington, D.
C The book by Julie Kelly is called January 6th. It is the authoritative account of what happened that day. I promise you, there are details in there you have never heard before.
I strongly encourage you to check it out.
Julie, thanks for coming on last minute.
Always, always great.
We really appreciate it. Always an honor to be on. Dan. Thanks so much and thanks for covering my work and for speaking out for these people. Yes, ma'am.
They deserve it. JULIE KELLY Folks, great reporter, I mean, actual reporter. There are so few of those left.
Follower on Twitter and true Social, you won't be disappointed. You'll find out what's going on in D..C. You're not safe there, I'm warning you now.
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They're fantastic. Sean Davis of The Federalist is one of our favorite guests. He tells it like, it is, no matter what the party, Republican or Democrat. We discussed the Democrat playbook and how they're going to try to do what they did in 2020, among other things.
Check this interview out. You know, whenever things get hairy?
I love to go to this guy because he's a real truth teller.
Who's not afraid to take on either Republicans or Democrats? He's got a history of doing it. If you're not following him on social media, you should.
Sean Davis Sean, welcome back to the show. We've been trying to get you for a while because we need our fix here.
There's way too much going on. How are you doing, buddy?
I'm doing great, thank you for having me back.
Yeah, of course, we always love your takes on things. So Sean, I want to talk a little bit about the debate, obviously going on today, but before we get to that, in the first hour of the show.
I was making a point and if you think I'm exaggerating what's going on, please tell me.
Because I would love to calm down myself and reduce my own blood pressure.
But they're running the same playbook, Sean, they're not even. They're not even like flipping the page or just rewriting.
The same text It's the Covid hysteria, they're going to keep Biden in the basement using the Covid hysteria.
And then they're going to use that for a mass mail in balloting thing.
Where we know, mail in ballots are subject to higher rejection rates than in-person voting. They're doing it again.
USA Today just wrote a piece about Biden. In the basement, you're already seeing the mask nonsense and the craziness and the mail in balloting push, I promise you, is about to begin. The playbook is back again because they think it works.
And it'll work again. Your thoughts on that?
I don't think you're crazy at all. I think we should absolutely be on the lookout for them doing that. And the thing is, put yourself in the shoes of the left and the Democrat Party. Why wouldn't they run that play again? Like, if you can run it up the gap and get ten yards every time and they can't stop you, you'd be nuts to not run the same play again.
So hopefully this is a wake up call to the idiots in charge of the Republican Party in Washington. That hey, if you morons want to have jobs like going on in the future. If you want to keep your precious little signatures and your nice little seats in Congress, you should probably do something about this. Because if you don't, they are going to take back the House. Next year, they'll take the presidency and they'll keep the Senate. Then they're going to pass the Supreme Court. And then, you know, Katie, bar the door for whatever other nonsense they're going to push through.
Yeah, Sean, we're talking to Sean Davis, Sean. The the mask thing is the tip of the spear for them on this.
You know, there's a reason for it.
It's a fairly obvious one.
It's a, you know, a visual symbol of fear and subjugation.
You know, the whole guiding ethos of collectivists is subjugation, which requires the axiomatically subjects.
And then they want you to look governed, and they want you to look subjugated, and the mask is that symbol, that look, I complied.
It's like a, it's like a talisman for the left, it's like a shibboleth, like a code word. Like, look at me, I'm a sheep and I'm proud I'm a sheep. I did it.
And I said to my audience before, I've got no easy answers for them, and I don't think I'm exaggerating this either. If you comply with this this time, it will never stop. Everybody has at least some form of immunity right now.
The overwhelming majority of Americans.
Can it be deadly? Of course. Is it likely going to be deadly for you? No, it's probably going to be a really nasty cold now.
Because everybody's had some form of immunity at this point to this thing.
If you comply now, Sean, this will never, ever stop. It'll come back every year and you'll be living with a freaking diaper.
On your face for the rest of your life.
Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, honestly, if you haven't had it by, like at least three or four times by now, what are you even doing? But you're right about the mask the mask is it's meant to signal so many different things.
One, it signals about the person who's wearing it, that they're compliant, that they're fearful, It also signals to people something dangerous is happening. You wouldn't be walking around and seeing people in masks unless they're trying to protect themselves from something. So I think the primary objective of this masking thing is to instill this constant fear. That if it's bad enough to have to walk around in a mask, well, obviously bad enough. To where you can't go, vote in person and you shouldn't be out shopping, and you know, we should do the whole thing by mail.
And it's, it's unacceptable. I mean, I think most of us, probably all your audience. There was no masking in where I am in 2020. The idea that they're going to do it again in 2023 to me is absolutely laughable. Because at least where I am, you're out there wearing a mask and walking around, you're going to get mocked like it's just not acceptable anymore.
And I'm to the point where I just want to go to people and say, I need you to take that off. It's making me uncomfortable, I feel unsafe. I agree with you, I agree with you.
We're talking to Sean Davis. Please make sure you follow him on Twitter and all the social media platforms. What's your hold on? I just got to look at what's your Twitter? I want everyone at Sean.
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You'll thank me later.
His takes, you're going to say, damn it.
Why didn't I think of that now? Whenever I steal something from him, I footnote it. But I assure you, it happens often. Because I'm always like, I should have thought of that first. I could have claimed ownership, but it's OK, Sean.
I kind of, like my show lives vicariously through your cerebral cortex. Let me get your take on the debate tonight.
So listen, I'm a Donald Trump supporter.
I love Ron Desantis.
He's the best governor in the country. I find a lot of the goings on just ridiculous and foolish.
Why we're eating each other alive is, frankly, just dumb.
And completely counterproductive primaries are a good thing. nasty personal primaries I don't think are. Having said that, I've tried to view this objectively, but you're, I haven't gotten your take on this.
I don't, I don't think Trump should attend. I initially was like, Well, he's a really good debater, you know, the entertainment portion he's got down.
And let's be honest, politics is 90 percent entertainment, but the more I thought about it. As he starts to pull away in the primary, it looks like a tactically kind of smart move. Because he's trying to clear out basically the number two lane while keeping the field big. To split up the vote for plurality purposes, he doesn't want a solid number two. So if he gets off the stage and everybody beats up the Santas or Vivek, it keeps everybody in the race longer, thinking they could be number two.
I mean, what do you think?
You think he should have attended or smart move to stay out?
Just as a consumer, I'm bummed that he's not going to be there because I do find him entertaining and he's he's in peak form. At debate, I mean, you go back and look at those 2016 2015 primary debates. They were amazing. And it doesn't matter if you liked him or hated him, everyone wanted to watch.
So I'm, I'm bummed we don't won't get to see him just because he's so entertaining. In that context, I have generally two kind of inviolable rule of politics one is whoever says the only poll that matters is on election day.
That's the guy who's losing universally, and then to the guy demanding a debate, that guy's also losing. And so from a tactical point of view, Trump's up by like, what 40, 50, 60 points, what incentive on earth does he have to go and debate? And you look back at 2015, 2016,.
That was a close race, I mean, he was still winning primaries handily, but that was a close race. There's a lot going on. This isn't a race, it's Trump versus a lot of people, honestly, trying to vie for attention for themselves.
And why would he use himself in his star power to give them the attention they want to go after him? This is a pure political matter. Of course, he's not going to go to it, there's no incentive for him to go to it.
Yeah, I agree.
And having run for office, I can attest fully to what Sean is saying. You know, I was the underdog in pretty much every race I was in, and we were always the ones, you know, calling for our opponent to debate. Because it's an opportunity for you to hopefully get a zinger in and to kind of ride their coattails to some free, you know, earned media. So you're 100 percent right on the debate stage tonight, though, you know, you're one of these.
No BS guys, it's what I like about following you, you don't, you know, you don't. You don't put these nonsense kind of like cliched political talking points out there, but I'm hearing a lot of stuff out there about the debates.
And I was watching some cable news this morning and a couple of really smart guys were like, you know, people want to hear.
About the issues and all this stuff, John I got to be honest.
I don't really think that's the case at all.
I think people generally understand the issues. I think that's kind of a dumb thing to say.
People get that pretty much every conservative on the stage is going to go for school choice. Reduce taxes, hopefully some semblance of a balanced budget or restraint on government spending.
People get that.
I think it's more of kind of a commander in chief test.
That people want to see someone with some leadership skills who's relatable, and that's a word I did not hear on TV at all this morning.
On any of the cable news channels.
People want someone who's relatable.
I mean, let's be honest.
Trump's substantive portions of the debate shown were not good. The nuclear triad thing was a disaster. The planned parenthood answer was not great. But he just seemed relatable, He was funny, you know? He seemed like a guy who had enough bravado that he could be, you know, president.
I think it's more about that, the interpersonal stuff.
I think the issue stuff is kind of secondary.
Yeah, and looking back at 2015 2016, what Trump communicated in those debates is was, I'm not one of these people. I don't talk like these people, I don't think like these people. I'm going to go up there and call Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig and then be like, Yeah, see, I'm not politically correct.
That's what people loved is because they were desperate for somebody who wasn't from the system, who wanted to go inside and blow up the system. And that's why Trump ran away with it is because they knew he was that guy, they didn't think anyone else was. They go out there with their platitudes, or, you know, the gentleman from here and the gentleman from there.
And I have a long history of co-sponsoring bills, like, everyone's done with that crap, and it's similar. In this election, Republican voters want to hear two things. They first off, they want to know, how are you going to beat the crooked left and prevent them from rigging another election in twenty twenty four?
Number two, what are you going to do to completely destroy this corrupt, deep state, this lawless regime that throws its enemies in prison and gives its friends get out of jail? Free? Card? Those are the only two things people care about in the Republican Party. They don't care about you trashing Trump, they don't care about some letter you wrote, and they don't care about your. 10 year history of co-sponsoring bills. No one's ever heard of.
They want to know how you're going to crush the left and how you're going to keep you from stealing this election. That's it.
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Sean, I'm last question for you as a guy who nobody understands.
Government spending better than you, given your, you know, your prior work up there diagnosing all this waste and crap.
I see two major problems right now.
The first problem is obviously the police state. It's clearly out of control between the weaponization of the FBI and the Department of Justice. We can't have a representative democracy. Moving forward. The second biggest problem is the mathematical, mathematical certainty of a de facto bankruptcy. It's not going to be a classic Chapter 11..
We can print our own money, but it doesn't matter. If we inflate away the value of our currency and everything you have in our currency denominated assets is worthless, you're effectively bankrupt. I mean, you can have a wheelbarrow full of money, but it's not going to buy anything.
I see those as the two major problems the police state, I think, is fixable because personnel or policy.
If we elect a Republican as president and we just do mass firings. But I'm genuinely concerned about the financial state of the country as a guy who's looked at the books.
Do you think this is even savable at this point, or is is it?
Is a de facto bankruptcy inevitable?
I don't think it's inevitable, I do think there are things we can fix. But but if you just? I was having a conversation with a friend at lunch today and you're talking about what things cost. When we were kids, you know, our parents could get a house for fifty thousand dollars on one income, they could send their kids to college.
They could have cars that worked. You look at things now, you're not getting a house for under, you know, 200 or 300. Mortgage rates are eight percent, new cars are 50 grand.
College is 200 grand. It's impossible to do anything on a single income. And it's because of what our government has done to the currency and what it's done to the budget. They spend money, like they're a bunch of drunken sailors. And then they go and inflate away the value of our money to help pay off the debt that they ran up.
So, like, the first thing you have to do is just stop spending all this money that we can't afford to spend. It's like Dave Ramsey talking to people. If you spend more than you make each month, you're going to be in debt. Maybe you should stop doing that. That's the first thing we have to do.
And then Medicare and Social Security are going to bankrupt the country if they're not reformed rapidly. Because our unfunded liabilities there are like one hundred trillion dollars, it's unsustainable.
I keep trying to tell people that Sean.
I only got about 30 seconds left. But it is a mathematical certainty these programs are going to go bankrupt. We could stop this now.
We could say to everyone 55 and older, listen.
Your life's been organized around this. We get it. We're going to fund this out of the general fund, there's no trust fund, it's. It's all a myth.
But 55 or younger? I'm really sorry, it's over. There's just no money. And I think our bond rating would go through the roof right away, as people realize we were serious.
Sean, thanks so much for your time. we love having you back.
It is an open invitation for you anytime you want to come on. And I'm sure you're going to be watching the debate tonight. So hopefully maybe we can get you back next week with some analysis. We really appreciate your time.
You're the best Dan. thanks for having me.
You got it Sean Davis folks, a good guy right there, and I mean, a good man. He don't give a damn what your party is. He just cares about the future of the country.
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