#2032 - BJ Penn & Tulsi Gabbard
2023-09-07 02:26:09
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Yeah, we're doing Fight Companion, Saturday night. Fight Companion's fun. It is. Have a little whiskey, watch the fights, talk a little shit. Eddie Bravo brings up some crazy conspiracies.
Every time.
This time, Eddie's out, so Sam Tripoli's in. He's even more deep into the world of conspiracies. He's hilarious. That'll be fun.
Conspiracy theory is the code name for spoiler alert.
He's right.
Well, it was invented. The term conspiracy theory was invented after they conspired to kill the president. That's when conspiracy... I didn't know that. Yeah, conspiracy theory, the term conspiracy theory, started getting thrown around right around the time that Kennedy got assassinated.
And it was directly because there were so many people that had all these theories. There was all these stories about the shots from the grassy knoll. And until Dick Gregory went on the Geraldo Rivera show, which I think was 11 years later. What year was it that Dick Gregory went on Geraldo Rivera and showed the Zapruder footage?
Many years later. At least 8 years later. After the assassination.
The Zapruder film came late, right?
But it was a different assassination attempt. Oh, it was another assassination attempt. Garfield. Interesting.
In 1881.. Interesting. With a piece of paper.
Conspiracy theory.
Interesting.
When did the Zapruder film come out?
So, they had the Zapruder film. I think his name was Abraham Zapruder. He was at the scene. And he was filming the president as he was driving down. And as he was driving down, he caught the shot.
He caught the shot to the neck. And he sees Kennedy holding his neck. And then he sees the head go back and to the left. So, 1975.. Okay.
Think about that. The assassination was 63..
So, 75.. What was in 63?. What was in 63??
63. Kennedy was assassinated.
That's what I'm saying. Yes.
But the Zapruder film was released by Dick Greger, who is a stand-up comedian.
Wow.
Dick Greger brought it to the Geraldo Rivera show with this other gentleman. And then they played it for America. And the whole country got to see Kennedy's head go back and to the left. And this spray of blood. And everybody was like, wait.
What happened?
Did they ever say why it took so long?
Because it's fake. No. Something's going on.
No, no, no. It was owned by Life. So, I believe what happened was Zapruder sold it to Life. Life had it, and they wouldn't release it. So, either.
they thought it was too disturbing.
Maybe they were told not to.
We also have to remember that back then there was no VCRs. It's very hard to watch something like this. You'd have to have one of those reel-to-reel cameras that you could set up and watch. Nobody watched films at home. You watched what was on television back then.
So, when they played that, this was monumental. And then you had to be there to see it. You couldn't just pause it. You couldn't rewind it. There was none of that.
There was no DVR.
And you couldn't tell your friends on social media. You had to go to work the next day and go, did you see that Geraldo Rivera show? By the way, I think it was on late at night, too.
Good morning or good night?
I think it was a late night show.
Is that what blew Geraldo up?
No, Geraldo was already doing well. He was already an established journalist, which is why he was the host of that show. And I think it was late at night. So, fucking nobody was watching. A small amount of people were watching.
And then they played this. They see it once. They go, what the fuck did I just see? And then it takes forever for books to come out. And now we've got Tucker Carlson on Fox News saying the CIA killed Kennedy.
And you're like, what did he just say? What? Did he just say that on TV? Like, what?
Yeah. Imagine how long it took for somebody to find out who the president was before the telegraph type thing.
Oh, yeah.
Two years. Now, imagine those elections.
Oh, my God.
The checks and balances. Right. Right.
Like when Washington. Imagine if they found out that Washington stole the election.
It's funny.
It is funny. It is funny.
What if they found out Lincoln was a total farce?
Right.
They all stole the election. Like, what? Had people assassinated and voted incorrectly. It's amazing.
But Lincoln ran and lost like five times or something, right, before he won? I don't remember if it was for president or when he ran for a different office, but.
Back then they would stand in front of the whole town, like on a literal soapbox, and talk for hours. Yeah. Hours and hours in front of everybody. Yeah. Explaining what they were going to do.
Yeah.
Amazing.
So you've got to imagine that when this Pruder film came out, that was a moment where, like, you've got to also realize this is like during the time of the Vietnam War. Right. There's already massive distrust in government. And people are like, well, you know, what happened exactly? Then the books start coming out.
You know, books start coming out like Best Evidence by David Lifton.
12 years later.
Yeah, 12 years later.
12 years and nobody but the CIA saw it.
I'm sure.
Yeah. They were there.
It wasn't until Dick Gregory, a stand-up comedian, brings it to the Geraldo Rivera show. Yeah. Incredible.
Yeah.
It's amazing. Yeah. It's incredible. I thought it was two years. It came out two years late.
But wow, 12 years. 12 years.
Yeah. So 75.. So, you know, just imagine something that happened 12 years ago for us. Like, what? 2011??
Which, by the way, that sounds crazy.
It does. That's crazy.
That is crazy. 2011 was 12 years ago. I know. What the fuck is happening? Time is flying.
Too fast. And what a world we live in now where, even if the government tried to withhold information, or tries to, as they do, with social media and all these different platforms, it's very, very hard.
Yeah.
It's very, very hard. So they try to push a narrative and then different people have questions, and, you know, it creates this environment where, if the truth is not being told, people can pick up on it. Yeah.
The new mayor in Maui, because I was surprised he got in, because Victorino was so loyal, kept the pandemic on. He even did that where you got to reset your vaccination status or whatever. But when I saw Bissen in, he's so smart. I mean, they're talking, they're like, what about social media? He just, being a judge, right?
Or he just looks over and says, I don't got time for that stuff. And looks for it, you know? They're really smart speakers and they know what they're doing out there, right? The people in office, you know?
Well, I mean, Tulsi can speak to that better than anybody.
I don't know Mayor Bissen. I may have met him in passing, but this has been one of the big failures around the aftermath of the wildfire on Maui is this total vacuum of information from government officials to the people. And in that vacuum, obviously, people have all kinds of ideas or theories, or this or that. But people were left without any kind of communication from anyone in a position of authority to provide help for days and weeks. And it created massive problems.
And so, you know, the immediate line of response needed to come from the county and from the mayor and from their emergency response director. And unfortunately, they did not communicate. They're still not communicating. There's still a huge lack of transparency and therefore an increasing level of distrust in any of the levels of government that should be bending over backward to answer questions and to say, hey, here's what's going on every single day. Here's what we're doing.
Here's what we're trying to do. Here's what we're having a hard time doing. Whatever the case may be, it has just, it's been a major problem from the beginning.
Do you think that this is a complete lack, because of a complete lack of preparedness, that this is an unprecedented type of disaster? It never happened before. It happens, and they just weren't prepared. They don't know what to do. And they just, it's incompetence?
I think that that is very true. And there's, you know, in hindsight, there are things going back. as, you know, Maui has experienced drought year after year after year. Brush fires are a common occurrence, especially on the west side of Maui, where Lahaina is, the side of the island that was most impacted by this.
You know, it is, you know, being prepared for wildfires on Maui is something that, if you look at their, you know, emergency assessment documents, it's mentioned almost as a bit of an afterthought. Maui fire has been vastly undermanned and under-resourced for quite some time. So there's all these different things you can look at from a preparedness level that should have been addressed long before. But from, you know, the, you know, the county officials, yes, they were completely overwhelmed and unprepared for this unprecedented wildfire. It's the worst wildfire our country has seen in over 100 years.
But the problem is, once you get to that point, like, oh, shit, this is really, really, really bad, not only in the hundreds of lives lost in that fire, but the surrounding communities of people who survived, but who went without power, who went without any cell phone signal, any ability to communicate with people, who didn't have, you know, all of the gas stations in their neighborhood, they were empty. There was no way to get gas. They couldn't get food. They couldn't get clean water. The water supply systems were contaminated.
I mean, all of their, there was disaster upon disaster that came in the aftermath of the fire that went unaddressed. And my biggest, I went there a few days after the fire happened. Maui was my district for eight years when I served in Congress and had a lot of friends there and went out to those affected communities. And what I heard over and over again was no one from the county, the state, or the federal government has shown their face in our community. It is neighbors helping neighbors, families helping families, people on the island of Molokai, which you know, they don't have much on their island.
Everything comes in by barge. They're loading up whatever they have in their general store on these little boats and running them over to West Maui on a private boat dock, because that was the only place that they wouldn't be blocked from bringing food and water and medical supplies.
Now, why are people being blocked? I keep hearing that about people being blocked. Is it because they haven't gotten an accurate death count? Is it because they have to make an assessment of how much was damaged? and it's so massive, it's so vast that they haven't been able to do that yet?
Like, why is it being blocked?
Things are being opened up now. I think people are able to get in and out of the West Maui area. I understand that the historic town of Lahaina is still being blocked off and they're working on reopening it as we speak, but in the couple of weeks after the fire, I don't have a good answer why they continue to block the roads. Again, to those surrounding communities, why they blocked people like Kai Lenny and others from using their jet skis and boats to try to bring supplies in through the water. You could say, well, we were trying to secure the area, but you're blocking.
You're blocking friends and family from coming in and bringing necessary supplies, literally doing supply runs. So, you know, I jumped on a plane that was doing supply runs from Kahului, the main airport on Maui, out to this tiny little airport that serves that community. And that was, for a lot of days, the only way that they could get supplies brought in. I don't know. I really don't know.
But again, this goes back to, why aren't you communicating to people what's going on and why you're doing what you're doing? The result of their decisions left people and families and communities stranded in their most dire time of need. And the mayor didn't go out and show his face until almost two weeks after the fire happened.
That's insane.
It's crazy.
And then says he wants to take the land for the state. That's his first word.
Now, this is one of the reasons why I want to talk about this. How is that possible, that these people could lose their home and then lose their land? How is that possible?
It is. the number one concern of people there in Lahaina, is that a few days after this happened, I haven't spoken to the governor, but he said in a press conference, he said, we're talking to the attorney general. He said, I'm talking to my attorney general to explore options for the state to take over that land and use it to build workforce housing or build a memorial for the people who lost their lives. But the fears that the people in Lahaina have, some of whom, like Archie Kalepa, famous surfer, community leader, native Hawaiian leaders, families, lived in Lahaina for nine generations. Now being told, well, the state, the governor, is looking at taking that land, taking ownership of that land, that it is unconscionable.
And there's, oh, you know, we'll, you know, for those who've been displaced, we'll see about doing a land swap and we'll send you to the big island to live in Puna.
Jesus.
It's taking away the sovereignty of people's rights to have a say over their home. In many cases, their generational lands. is, is it, it is such an abuse of power. And so this is, and I'm, I'm, I'm glad that there are leaders in the community who are leaning into this fight to make sure that they are fighting this fight before anybody tries to do that, rather than looking in the rear view mirror and saying, gosh, I wish we had done something.
But just imagine a governor going on television after a massive tragedy where you have, we don't even know the number of people dead, yet. You have this massive area that's been burned to the ground. Yeah. And then he starts talking about taking it over for the state. That's an insane position to take.
It is. Post-tragedy. When people are suffering at their most, they can't even believe it happened. Yeah. And then all of a sudden he's saying, we're going to take it for the state and make a memorial.
How about give the fucking people their homes back? Exactly. One of the things we went over yesterday, which is a crazy number, we were looking at the amount of money that was accidentally sent to Ukraine, like they, they, they over, sent 6 billion. And then I said, well, how much would it cost to rebuild every house in the Maui fire? And it's 5 billion, 5 billion, something.
Yeah. Like they, that's just like accidental money, but there's no talk of doing that. There's no talk of doing that.
Isn't that interesting? The way, the way, and it has, it's happened two or three times now, where the Pentagon has said, Oh, we miscalculated how much money we had set aside for Ukraine. So we have an extra 4 billion to send now that we didn't know we had. And this has happened a few times. Secretary of state, Tony Blinken went to Kiev yesterday promising, Hey, we're going to give you another billion now.
And this is the thing. When I was out there in Maui, person after person was like, Tulsi, tell me what would happen if we started to call ourselves Ukraine? You think they would give us some money then to take care of our families, to put, to fix our roofs, you know, that, that had been torn up by the hurricane winds that came through to make sure we have clean water to drink. You think they might pay attention to us then? And then the, and then FEMA comes out, the FEMA director comes out and does this press conference.
I think it was at the white house. And she says, well, someone said, well, what are you doing for Maui? She's like, Oh, we're giving a one time $700 payment to everybody who's been impacted by the wildfire. A one time $700 payment.
It's insane.
Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the entire country, the entire country. And how fricking, insulting is it to have the represent the lead disaster response administrator from the Biden administration stand there and proudly say, Hey, we're giving everybody one $700 payment.
It's insane. And it's insane, especially because of how much money we're sending to Ukraine. Because there's, there can be no doubt that these things are financially motivated now that someone is making money off the Ukraine thing. And there's a reason why they're sending so much money. Yes.
They have so much concern.
Have we ever seen a real war? I mean, he, when it first started, Putin came with a mile of tanks. You would think the guy would be hanging in five days. You know what their president, like. when they went into Iraq and Saddam and they got Saddam, you know, and they, they hung them in front of the world.
You would think that Russia would be able to do that.
Well, Ukraine is very well armed. now. You know, we, we sent them a lot of really good stuff, but they're losing a lot of soldiers. And the other, the other thing about when they invaded was it was at a time where the grounds were like, essentially like marshy. Like they were, they were concerned when it got colder, because then the trucks and the tanks could roll in on the dirt.
But they were only coming in on the roads and the Ukrainians were ambushing them on the roads.
Well, you, you hear that Russia is a superpower. I mean, on par with the United States. Well, they are. We've always heard that.
They are, but they're just not, they're not using the full force of their might. I think we've spent more in Ukraine than Russia has. Wow.
That's crazy.
That's true. That's true. I think that might be true.
One of the other things was that, was our intelligence, the United States intelligence agencies. in the lead up as Russia was building up their, you know, manning and tanks and everything at the border. Our intelligence agencies were telling the president, telling the public, that, you know, hey, what did they say? Like? they will take Kiev in days, like in a few days, that Russia will take the capital of Ukraine.
But even their intelligence proved to be vastly like wrong. Yeah. Very, very wrong. And this is why, you know, people, people use this fear tactic to justify sending all of these, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine and say, well, if we don't do this, Russia is going to take all of Ukraine and then take over all of Europe. It's like, no, they don't have that capability.
You're fear mongering in order to continue to fund a war that's benefiting the military industrial complex more than anyone else.
There you go. That's what it looks like. Just another, another one of those 20 year wars. It's going to be 20 years, you know.
Real similar to what we just got out of. And if you're looking at that in relation to, like what's going on in, in Hawaii, it shows what's wrong with the world.
And the fucked up priorities. Frankly, it is. It is. When you look at, you know, President Biden and his people announced like, oh, hey, look, he's going to take a break from his vacation at Lake Tahoe to go and visit the people. What a good guy.
Exactly.
Did you see? when he went there and he started talking about a fire that he had? He almost lost his car. Yeah. Yeah.
I know what a fire is like. I almost lost my car once.
That is funny. It's like they do that on purpose. They have him just babble something.
They can't stop him. He is the president. And they are a bunch of dopes who work for him. Like, the smartest one is probably that White House press secretary. Like, when that's your ace in the hole, you got a fucking entire administration.
Like, think about that one guy that got busted because he was stealing women's clothes at the airport. Yeah. You know, he's non-binary. Our first non-binary person in the White House. Fantastic.
And this dude just stealing ladies' clothes. Like, not once. Not an accident. Like, it. just, that's his thing.
Steals people's bags, puts them in their clothes, dresses up like them.
Oh, man.
Brought their stuff to a hotel, threw out some of it, kept other ones. I thought it was my bag.
What are you going to do? That is funny.
Kooks.
Full of kooks. Over and over. And so there's no one running the show. The show is chaos. You know?
And then the people that are involved, I'm sure, in the defense industry are like, Listen, it would be very nice if we could continue this project.
Yeah. And continue funding. I mean, watching Green and even watching Hilo's own mayor, Mitch Roth, I mean, it really seems and feels like the campaign is, while they're signing these bills, this next bill that they signed, that's going to do whatever, that's going to take Lahaina, that's him trying to get to the president. That's Josh Green trying to move up to the president.
Well, they care about themselves.
That's what it comes down to. Political entrepreneurs.
And they're involved in a game. And the game is, like, if you're playing chess, you have to abide by the Chess Federation's rules. You play a certain amount of time. You know what to do. You don't piss anybody off.
You don't break the rules.
You sign this bill.
Yeah, this is the game you're playing. And everybody wants to get better at their game, right? If you start off and you're a white belt, you want to go, I'm good. I like being a white belt. No, you want to be a black belt.
If you start off and you're the mayor of a small city, you're like, I'd like to be the fucking governor one day. And then next thing, you're moving around and moving up and hobnobbing with the right people and signing the right bills and making the right people happy. and, hey, welcome our new governor. And then the governor's like, you know, I'd like to run the whole motherfucker. And then, you know, that guy starts doing things, that what we've done with California is.
take the tech sector and the finances. We're number one economy in the country.
Oh, I see what's going on.
You want to win. You want to win. It's a game. It's a game like all games. You want to be the top dog in the game.
It's natural. If you're racing, you want to be the one that gets there when the flag goes off. That's just what human beings do. And when you apply human beings to a game, that's governing citizens.
Scary. I mean, this is why our country is, I mean, we are headed in the direction of going to hell in a handbasket, because we have people in positions of power who treat it as though it is a game. And the only ones who lose are the people. It's the American people. It's the people on Maui.
It's the people who have extreme needs and challenges who are being failed at every step of the way.
And it's because they can get away with it. Here's a thing that people forgot about. Ready? East Palestine. Remember?
That wasn't that long ago. That was not that long ago that these people were living in toxic soup. Everybody's completely forgotten about them. There's no stories on TV. There's no stories in the newspaper.
What about that community of people that experienced an insane experience? A train derails with toxic chemicals, and they decide to light it all on fire. And fish are fucking floating in the rivers. The skies are black.
So President Biden was asked about this the other day by a reporter who said...
Oh, good. The President will go to East Palestine. Oh, he will. Jean-Pierre, that lady. She's hilarious.
Oh, my God. The way he responded to the reporter who asked is they said, You know, it's been 200, and however many days since the disaster in East Palestine. You promised that you would go there. You haven't gone yet. Why?
And the President basically said, Well, I haven't had time.
Wow.
When I went to East Palestine, I got involved with politics in Hawaii in the first place because of water. Protecting the environment. Making sure we have clean water. And so the challenges people on Maui are facing with water, the challenges people in East Palestine are facing, it was such a huge toxic disaster. But when I was there, they were saying that the effects of this disaster won't fully be known for a while because the toxins at that time hadn't had...
They were being told the water's clean. It's fine. It's safe. And the days after the disaster in East Palestine, people there are smart enough to know, well, the water hasn't seeped down through the soil and into our groundwater sources for those tests to be accurate. And so they were concerned not only about, well, are you going to come back and test our water in a month?
In two months? In six months? In a year? How is that? It's a farming community out there.
How is that going to affect the crops? They were already seeing animals dying in the weeks after that disaster happened. And that was their foremost concern. is nobody ever heard the name East Palestine before this disaster happened. Will they still remember us when we need them?
And what about what's happening with their lungs? Right. Those people were breathing that air. And they were told it was safe to go back. And they were taking photos of the sky.
That stuff stays in the clouds. And then, when it rains, more comes down.
Acid rain.
And then where's their money when they're accidentally sending an extra $6 billion to Ukraine? It doesn't make any sense. It's just blatant and in your face. That there's no concern about you. The concern is about whatever the agenda is.
That's the concern. And if the American people want the guy to go there and give a little speech and talk about, I was almost trying to fire one. They'll go do it. But that's it. That's all you get.
And you get $700 each. And Ukraine gets an extra $6 billion. This is an extra $6 billion. What's the amount of money they spent so far in Ukraine?
Let's guess.
It's well over $100 billion.
They divvy it up. When you look at the count, sometimes they say, well, this much has gone towards weapons. But, like you know, the money that our government is giving to Ukraine is not only going to weapons. We taxpayers are paying for their bureaucracy. We are paying for their administrators.
We are paying to...
$135 billion.
Wow.
Yeah. The president is asking for another $24 billion.
Now, is that August 15th? When was the fire?
August 8th.
So this is after the fire. He's asking Congress for $24 billion for the war in Ukraine and $0 for Maui.
And 10% for the big guy. You'd have to think. You'd have to think that. That's why it's easier to track the money when you bring it to Hawaii, because all of our eyes are on the ball.
I don't even think he can be corrupt anymore. He's just living. He's just eating ice cream and just waiting for the ticker to stop. But this is insanity. This is like true insanity.
And this is like the opposite of what we... The whole idea of electing people for office is that these people are going to care about us and do the right thing for the community, because they're one of us. That's what we want. That's what we want. We want someone who's one of us.
Yeah. And when you see that, especially from these guys like Biden, these career politicians, they're the opposite of one of us. They've been in that system forever. They've been playing that game forever.
The excuse that Pete Buttigieg was the guy that the Biden administration sent to East Palestine, of course, he showed up. He announced he was going. only when Trump announced that he was going. He literally showed up there. the day after Trump.
Trump went and visited the people there. But the excuse that he gave is a common excuse that's given by people in government. When they don't show up for people is, well, you know, I didn't want to get in the way of the response. You know, I'm busy doing things in my office to try to help, et cetera, et cetera. But my point is, like, Joe, if a really good friend of yours, or your child, or someone in your family was hurt for whatever reason, was in pain, was suffering, even if you are not in a personal position to be able to alleviate that pain and suffering, what's the first thing you do?
Go to them.
You show up.
Yeah.
And you say, I love you. I care about you. I'm here for you. Tell me how I can help. And this is what I heard from officials on Maui.
at every level of the government is like, well, how do we know what they need? How do we best help? How do we best support? You will not know unless you show up and say, I am here for you. Tell me what you need.
Tell me how we can support you. And even if the answer is, I don't know, you were there for them.
Yeah.
And that's what matters. Like, if you care, no one should have to tell you to do this.
Right.
Because it's human instinct. How long did it take them to come down and finally?
I mean, I heard from people there that it was like day 10 or 11 that the mayor showed up.
That's a long time. That's a long time. Right. The mayor, that you live there. Yeah.
It's a small island.
It's inexcusable.
There's no.
He must have just been panicking. Well, you'd have to think, I mean, you're the governor. You leave. The first thing you're going to do, you know a hurricane's coming. Get your emergency team ready.
Right. Why wasn't the emergency team ready to go?
Well, you know, the county, the head of emergency response for Maui County was on Oahu at a FEMA conference when this happened.
At a happy hour, you know.
Why didn't he? Like, we all know, you can get on a plane within 30 minutes.
Yeah.
To fly from Honolulu to Kahului and be there within an hour, hour and a half. He didn't show up there until the, you know, one or two days after. And when the mayor was asked, Mr. Mayor, this was, you know, a couple of weeks after, a reporter said, who was directing the response? Your emergency management guy was not there.
Who was the person making decisions in the hours after the wildfire? The mayor said, I don't know. I don't know.
And what about the guy sounding the alarm? Now he resigns. Does that mean he's not going to be criminally charged for criminal negligence? I mean, you're talking a thousand people.
He, the guy who was on Oahu when the fires happened, he didn't show his face in public to the media or to the community until eight or nine days after the crisis. The guy who should have been talking to the media every single day in the hours and days after, he didn't show his face in public until day eight or nine. And that was when he said that he didn't regret sounding the alarm system.
Yeah.
Which is a whole other, like, his response made no sense whatsoever. And then he resigned the day after. I don't.
What is the controversy about the alarm system?
So that was the question. It was like, Hawaii has a state-of-the-art alarm system. We are the most remote island chain in the world. And, as a result, natural disasters is kind of a part of life. Tsunamis.
Tsunamis or hurricanes.
That's what made it big.
Flooding or whatever the case may be.
We have the best, right? We're supposed to have the best. We have the best.
There was, they were not sounded because of these fires. And that was the number one question. Why wouldn't you sound the alarm system? We had to wait until eight or nine days after when he came out to this press conference. And he was asked, do you regret not sounding the alarms?
Because they weren't broken. They worked. And he said, I don't regret it. And the reason is because, he says, we have been trained as people, when we hear the alarm, we believe that a tsunami is coming. And we have been trained to know that if a tsunami is coming, you head towards the hills.
You head away from the ocean and towards the mountains. That is such bullshit.
Somebody told him that line. That's the best line you can come with.
BJ, you know this, because we all get the alarms on our phones. Say, hey, there was an earthquake near Japan. Tsunami may come to Hawaii in three days or four days. Be aware. And we got all of our geologists and all these people.
They're tracking this. We have, like a tsunami doesn't pop up out of nowhere. That's something that we have. So if that alarm sounds and we haven't gotten that notice, there's something else.
And we would know, like this, there's something else. There was smoke.
Couldn't they send an alarm to your phones and say there's a fire?
Yes. Yes.
You know, I don't know if you would, yeah.
So what happened with the water? There was also some controversy about the water not being utilized.
I think the power went down and then the water pumps went down.
So the power did go out for a little while. According to the electric company, the power was restored and was not connected to the water.
So you got this.
I mean, the short answer to the long history of water battles in Maui County is going back to the plantation days, when corporations essentially took ownership of the water. So, you know, the Native Hawaiian system of the ahupua'a is you have the mountains, rainfall comes, streams, you have this natural ecosystem of waterways that go from the top of the mountains out to the ocean and Hawai'i's agriculture systems and wetlands and fish ponds, everything was built around that. These corporations came in, took over and literally took ownership of the water on Maui in many, not all of it, but most of it, and started diverting those streams.
so that the water fed directly into their lands, plantations, and then ag land, and then now very wealthy landowners, golf courses, resorts, et cetera. But the effect of that was places like Lahaina, that was traditionally a wetland. It was called the Venice of Maui. It was lush. There were fish ponds and farms and all of this stuff.
Because of that water diversion, it's like a desert there now, which is why these wildfires keep happening. And traditional farming communities and native Hawaiian lands were bled dry because the water was diverted to private corporations. So fast forward to. how did that impact the fires?
Sorry, what year did that happen?
Around? I mean, this was...
1800s, 1850s.
Yeah, this was, yeah.
The big five, the hui nui, the big five you're talking about.
Yeah, exactly. The big five plantation owners that came in. But the problem has compounded generation after generation after generation.
And so firefighters didn't have access to water when they needed it to effectively try to fight these fires. There was a hurricane winds, and so obviously it grew and spread like a blowtorch across the town of Lahaina. But even in the other, in upcountry Maui and Kula, when I went up and talked to some of the residents up there, who also saw, I don't know, it was like almost 600 acres that were burned through.
Homes were burned down, and they were trying to help each other. Neighbors were trying to help each other, because, you see, okay, hey, there's fire starting. Let's all get our hoses and turn on the water and try to do what we can until the firefighters get here. They turned on their hoses, and it was just like dribbles, dribbles of water. And so literally they're going and like scooping water out of their toilet bowls and like, oh gosh, there's a little bit of water like from the last time it rained, stuck in like our kid's bucket, like literally getting water from wherever, bottles of water trying to fight fires in their community, to save people's homes.
Watching people dying while that's happening, watching children burn. I was talking to my friend. He was a big part of my campaign. The last campaign. he said, hey, BJ, children, animals burning, you trying to fight it with water that you don't have.
I mean, just so many coincidences, right?
And so there was a request that was put in to the state.
to divert the water so that it could be used to fight the fires. And there was some kind of like six or eight hour delay before that decision was made. And I don't know the answer yet as to what that delay was. But the fact that the people of Maui don't have control over their own water.
is exactly the problem, both in this crisis, but on a daily basis, where families are told, hey, countywide, there's a drought right now. Everybody needs to conserve water. You gotta be limited with. don't wash your car and all this other stuff. But meanwhile, they go and drive through one of these resorts and they see all the sprinklers off of the golf courses and they see no restrictions whatsoever in the hotels.
And it's no wonder why people there are like, what the heck is going on here? You guys really only care about these resorts, but you don't actually care about the fact that a mother can't bathe her child because of the water restrictions.
It's insane.
It is. It is literally the definition of insane.
It's always been like this.
It's always been like this. These battles have been. The golf course sends their fertilizers into the water, then affecting the fish, like Kona and different things.
God.
It's always been this.
And so this is the thing is like, so how do we solve this? I mean, this has been a generations-long battle for the right to water, which is the one thing that every living thing needs to survive. Water. And the people there are fighting for that right to their own water.
And this is big. This is big on the Big Island, on the whole Hamakua Coast.
There are senators, state senators and everything, every day diverting these streams. They're pretty good size. We call them rivers, but I think the technical name, they're streams, you know, because I don't think there's too many rivers like Mississippi or nothing. That's a river. But we got, maybe just on that Hamakua Coast, we got 70 rivers.
It's 50 miles, and they just keep diverting them on the top. But even more eye-catching is when you're driving down the road, Hamakua Coast, the most beautiful green place in the world with 70 rivers. I live right on there on Hamakua Coast, and you can't jump in the car without asking yourself, how many trees, how many worthless, crappy trees can I count before I count one tree with food? Not one tree with food. And you can only sit there and think, that's not an accident.
That's not an accident that there's no food anywhere on this 50 miles, that you would have to walk back to Hilo or walk all the way to Honokaa City or Honokaa Town to go get some food. And, you know, it's a law, actually, in Hawaii that you cannot put any trees with fruit on it anywhere. And it just makes you wonder. It just makes you wonder that, you know, you can't put trees with fruit on public lands. I didn't know that.
Why would they have that? No, but that's everywhere. But look over here. Look at all the trees, you see. Why isn't there food?
Because they rather push stuff like social classes, stuff like the EBT card and these different things. Why is there no food in any of the trees? Just think about it in your head. Take a drive down the road and say, today I'm going to count how many trees I count before I see one tree with food. Will you see one tree with food?
You know, and that's what I've been talking about. I mean, I talk about that all the time. And it's, you know, it's to push these things. It's almost like they start eradicating all the pigs, eradicating the cows. Because you see them.
You see the wild cows, the wild pigs all the time on the Big Island. And they start eradicating those things. And it's almost like, I'd hate to think that they were, it's like they want us to compete only for the food that comes in on the boat. That's the only food they want, like the Hunger Games. You guys, all 1.5 million of you are going to compete for the food on the boat.
Well, the wild pig thing is interesting, because the wild pig thing is big in Texas, too. And it's really just about eradicating them, because they destroy all the farmlands. Like, they destroy the crops. And they make so many babies. Like, pigs have, pigs start their first litter at six months, and then they'll have, you know, as many as like 12 babies in a litter, and they'll have three litters a year.
And they just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And then they just start destroying crops.
It's like the same thing that I said when I was in Molokai, when we were campaigning, and I said, they say that you guys have a deer problem. But how is unlimited food a problem? I want to know. How is unlimited food a problem? And I understand you got to fence off.
or you do your different things, or maybe they can corral all these animals and do different things with them. But we have to start thinking of ways. They talk about sustainability, but the way they talk about sustainability, they want to do it with electric cities. You know, they want to make these electric cities. They just passed it in Hilo, and they said Hilo was one of the lucky people to pass one of these United Nations electric cities in Hilo.
But it makes me wonder, to the mayor who let it go, Mr. Roth, who I actually know personally, but what, you know, are you the mayor of the UN, or are we going to make our Hilo cities over here? I mean, you hear all the time, in 1800, it took all the way to 1800 to get 1 billion people. And in 1800, we started using coal and oil and fossil fuels, and then we jumped to 200 people within that time. So we jumped 7 billion within the time of 200 years, right?
So, you know, so you'd have to just think, well, if Ige signed a bill that we can't burn coal anymore in Hawaii, and oil, we're still using gasoline, but they want to push these electric cities now with electric cars and all these things. But you would just have to think, if oil and coal made this much people, what's this going to do? Because we're not going to have enough electricity, or, you know, we're not there yet now.
Well, it's not just that.
What they're doing in Oregon.
You know what they're doing in Oregon? They're making people. I think it's one other state, too. They're going to have these GPS devices. They attach to your electric car.
So it taxes you for the amount of electricity that you use.
Oh, my gosh.
So for every mile that you go, you have to pay a certain carbon tax, because electricity is being generated by something that generates carbon.
Yeah, like oil.
So the idea that this is supposed to be carbon-free is fucking stupid, because you have oftentimes coal-powered electric plants that are firing up extra because so many people need electricity for their electric cars. So you're putting more particulates in the air. You're putting more carbon in the air. It's bananas.
Isn't that why they say you should buy an electric car? To put less carbon in the air? And now they're going to tax you for it?
The whole thing is so crazy. Like, you certainly do while you're driving. While you're driving, you personally, while you're driving, if you drive an electric car, you're not polluting. But what did it take to make that car? What did it take to get that car here if you bought it from another country?
I mean, just the amount that one of those giant ships that moves cars over from Germany. Do you know how much fucking fuel those things burn? It's insanity. It's insanity. Oh, and you get here, look, we're green.
Bitch, you aren't green. What made that thing? What if you got one from China? What made that thing?
It's crazy. I mean, how are all of these people going to stay warm? What about their air conditioner? I mean, do we have enough energy for these people? You'll be trapped.
So if we had oil and coal to bring us this far, does that mean we're just going to have to go this far now, as far as the population?
Well, there's also this talk of 15-mile cities.
Yeah, tell me about those. I don't know much about them.
The idea is you'll essentially be contained.
That's what this city is.
You'll essentially be contained unless you get permission to leave.
That's true. How are they going to put us in there?
That's the idea they're starting to roll out in Europe. They're talking about it. I think they've already implemented this somewhere.
Well, you would think, well, I'm just thinking about Lahaina when you're talking about this, because you would think, well, how are they going to put us on that land of these 15-minute cities? But then you would think, well, how are they going to get us off our land? But they just have. In Lahaina, they just got these people off their land, and if you go...
Well, they're talking about it. They haven't done it yet.
No, no, no. They cannot go on their land now because there's an 80-year-old fella, and his house burned down, and his safe is in there, and he wants to go check on his safe, but he can't get in. He can't get in the property.
Right, but we're assuming eventually he can get in. They haven't kicked the people off their land yet.
If FEMA doesn't steal his safe first, or whoever is working, or any workers and that kind of stuff, if everything doesn't disappear. But it's just interesting. You would think you would be able to go there and say, no, get off your trespassing. I'm going to go on my land. Right.
You would think, how can it be any different?
Right, there's no fire anymore.
How can it be any different? How can it be any different? It's impossible for these people to be keeping them off their land. It's not a thing that you negotiate about. It's not this or that.
Right. No, that's your land. Get off trespassing. Trespassers will be shot, or whatever it is.
I mean, I understand not wanting tourists to go view it. Yeah. But if you can show identification, this is my land, they should let you right through. Yeah.
100%.
Especially so far after.
Your safe is there. You're an 80-year-old man. You just want to see if your money is there.
Yeah.
I know an initial concern was the toxicity of what happened there. But the reality is, with all of the recovery teams that have been going through there, all the federal officials, all of the government visitors that have gone there, there is no excuse why they can't tell this 80-year-old guy, hey, here's a mask that will protect you from breathing in all this crap. Go to your land.
It is funny because as kids, we played in asbestos our whole lives. We've cleaned it up thousands of times, put it in trash bags, it jumped, it was on the ceilings before, when we were kids, that white stuff.
Yeah.
And now, I haven't heard of anybody with asbestos. I mean, I could be wrong, I just don't know who it is.
People got cancer from it, for sure. Yeah, it's very cancer-causing.
We literally used to play in that stuff. We'd whack it off the roof and all that. And we're still here.
Well, listen, there was lead paint in people's houses. They had to remove that, too, because it was lowing kids' IQs. What are those 15-minute saves?
Yeah, I'm curious about that.
What are the plans for these folks? I've heard of it, but as I look it up, there's an article from Canada that says it's a little bit of a conspiracy theory. Canada is a conspiracy theory. Canada is literally a functioning conspiracy theory. It's just a concept to bring things within 15 minutes.
Right, but isn't there something going on in a 15-minute city that they tried in the UK? Isn't there something along those lines?
Just Google that. 15-minute city in the UK. What do you want me... Just Google that. 15-minute city in the UK.
15-minute city.
I know it's going to come up, but I don't know what I'm looking for, is what I'm saying.
Electric city or something, right?
I mean, they've talked about walkable communities for a long time.
15-minute hysteria.
That's from March.
Rather, benign urban planning concept. Yeah. English city of Oxford. Click that.
Yeah. Okay. An academic behind the hit urban... The hit! It's a hit, guys.
It's like fucking Saturday Night Fever. It's a hit. The hit. urban planning concept slammed flat earthers spreading fake news about livable cities. Oh, yeah, you're a flat earther if you don't want to be trapped in a 15-minute city.
Where's Kelly Slater when you need him?
Scroll down, here. Is Kelly Slater, a flat earther?
He jokes around. He just torches people all the time.
A rather benign urban planning concept is shaking up the English city of Oxford, sending thousands of people into the streets to protest. what they say is a dystopian plan. Take away their personal freedoms and lock them into their neighborhoods. The concept of the 15-minute city, popularized by the Franco-Colombian academic Carlos Moreno, aims to make cities more livable by ensuring that all essential services think schools, medical care and shops are within the distance of a short walk or bicycle ride. Broadly, the idea is to cut down on long commutes and car emissions and improve people's quality of life, ensuring they have access to quality services where they live.
That's not the way it's being seen. In Oxford, news of the city council adopted a plan to embrace the 15-minute city model prompted fierce backlash, with local groups and public figures alleging that authorities plan to restrict residents to their immediate neighborhoods and strictly police their movements, which will happen eventually. The idea that this won't happen eventually, particularly in the case of a pandemic or something where they can control people. this is not a fucking conspiracy theory. The outrage has been fanned by popular right-wing media figures and politicians who seized on the issue as an outrageous example of government overreach.
If they do limit people to those places, that is exactly what people are terrified of. If they embrace this concept and create this model and then somehow or another mandate that you stay inside, that that's fucking terrifying.
Which, in the age of the COVID lockdowns, there's no surprise that people are...
Well, you just buy the guys calling the people that are talking about it flat earthers. Hey buddy, no, they're not.
It's a spoiler alert.
It's interesting.
It makes you think.
It does make you think. Now look, if you wanted to make sure that people have all their goods and services very close so they could walk to. that's a great idea. But the concept of somehow or another gating that or stopping people from going out or having checkpoints, that's what gets people concerned. And they should be.
And cameras. You would think the whole thing's got to be camera.
They should be. I mean look what we went through with the flights in this country, where you had to have a vaccine to even fly into this country as recently as very recently ago. I mean, is it still the case? Do you still have to be vaccinated to fly in?
I don't think so.
My friends just came from Australia and they said you do.
And it's going to start back up, right? Aren't they doing their next pandemic?
They're talking about masks again.
The White House press secretary lady. She was just talking about the vaccines. The vaccines work. Like have a seat. Have a seat.
They work. how? Did you see the Cleveland Clinic study that shows that the more vaccinated you are, the more likely you are to get COVID? It means that as of 12.01 a.m. on May 12, 2023, non-citizen, non-immigrant air passengers no longer need to show proof.
So, my friend, well, maybe they made you have proof in Australia to leave. I don't know. Maybe it's an Australian thing.
That means non-citizen, non-immigrant.
Because if you come across the border, they just let you come in.
Yeah, yeah. If you come across the border. I got you. Or if you've got some kind of special needs.
But if all you have is a backpack and you're here illegally, you don't have to be vaccinated.
American National.
Which Oregon thing?
The Oregon GPS thing for EV vehicles.
Yeah, but the idea is to tax people. It's to tax them.
Well, because, according to this, it's like a way to supplement the people who are being taxed at the gas pump versus people who are not being taxed when they pump their EV cars.
Yeah, but you're still taxed.
I wonder who would volunteer to pay a fee.
No one's going to volunteer. But the idea is they're setting up this eventual precedent where you're going to get taxed on the carbon that you use. Period.
Right.
So you'll have some sort of an app. And we have to really fight against this. You're going to have an app that shows your carbon footprint. Now it's really ironic, because when you have guys like Bill Gates, who owns four private jets. Yeah.
Just one of those jets in one day spews out more carbon than your car does in the whole fucking life you use. And this guy's flying all over the place telling everybody that they're going to have to eat fake meat.
That's like the ultimate elitism. when you look at people like Bill Gates, you look at people like John Kerry who justify their own contradiction. I don't want to get busted. I know, exactly.
When he got busted and he lied. Kerry, did you see that video?
What did he get busted for?
Well, because he was saying that I've never had a private jet, I don't own a private jet.
Have you seen that?
Have you seen this? You have to see this. Jamie, pull that video up because it's hilarious. He's just flat out lying. Absolutely lying.
And they think we're so stupid that we're going to just buy their bold-faced lies.
Yeah.
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to turn over the record. Article here from February 15th of 2023.. The John Kerry family private jet was sold shortly after accusations of climate hypocrisy. Mr.
Secretary, do you stand by that testimony that you've never owned or your family? I personally own a plane.
My wife.
Not in a number of years, but I have flown. And this article is not that inaccurate that your family owned a plane. You flew on a plane. My wife owns a plane.
This isn't some kind of part of the gotcha. When we are asking Americans to make serious sacrifices as we transition for the common good, and your family and or yourself are flying around on private jets, that smacks of hypocrisy. It actually hurts your cause, Mr. Secretary. But I'll move on.
I just want to know from a record standpoint. Let's record me the right, at least, to set the record straight here. I do not fly on a private jet. I do not fly. I fly commercially on all of my responsibilities.
Have you flown on a private jet? since you've taken this position? Let me finish. I have flown five times in the last two and a half years on mil-air, which you also fly on, or some of you travel flying on, five times.
This is not the important part. The important part, Jamie, is before this. Pause it. The important part is before this. What is he saying?
Where? he's saying, I never owned a private jet. I don't know. You guys got to stop saying that. See, if you can find that.
He was very strong in his...
That's the more interesting part.
It's all special interest, everything, right? I mean, the more you know...
It's self-interest, right? I mean, it is. Ultimately, it's about self-interest.
Yeah. When he says that... It's before he talks to this gentleman.
So, it's hilarious. It's hilarious, because he just flat-out lies, and then he gets busted.
Yeah.
Oh, my wife owns a jet.
Oh, that person.
Oh, that lady.
So, how do you come up against these guys? Because that's the kind of people that are running for president and the kind of people that are running for governors.
What's the kind of people that are the vice president and president right now? Yeah.
I mean...
How do you battle these guys? Because you're a local girl, just like me, and that's the kind of people we're up against. It's true.
I mean, the challenge is that it's not only them and their propaganda that they're spewing, is they have their tentacles and their propaganda arms out through the mainstream media and through some massive monopoly big tech corporations. Yeah. The beauty is that more and more, I mean, people are starting to see the truth. They're starting to see through these politicians' lies and are actively looking for leaders who actually care about the people, rather than these political leaders and bureaucrats and others who are making their decisions based on keeping power, growing power, or taking care of themselves, family members, or their pocketbook, their own selfish interest.
Imagine where we'd be right now if Elon didn't buy Twitter.
Oh, gosh. Yeah.
Thank God.
None of the Twitter files would have been exposed.
No. We would not have known. And he just made a tweet yesterday about Facebook. See if you can find the Facebook tweet where he's talking about Facebook censoring people for ad revenue and limiting their posts, even if what they're saying is true, which is where it gets really creepy. Because it's one of the things that happened with Tucker Carlson.
They demoted his video. So it was seen by approximately 50% less people. They limited the reach. And what he was saying was absolutely true. Nothing he was saying is inaccurate.
And they got a note from the federal government, you need to do something about this, to take it down. They said, we can't take it down because it's true. They said, well, you need to demote it. Here it is. The Facebook cave to far left pressure groups and now allows them to silently dictate policy in exchange for ad money.
I think that the big news that people should take away from what you just said, Joe, is that the excuse that these corporations always give is like, hey, we're private companies, we can do whatever we want. But the fact that we are now seeing more and more evidence that they are censoring people at the direction of people in the White House and people in the federal government or the FBI or other law enforcement agencies, is the most chilling violation of our First Amendment rights.
So this says that the advertising boycott battering Facebook is unlike anything the social media giant has faced in 16-year history. Three days in, 800 companies worldwide have pulled millions of dollars in advertising from the social network, with brands from Coca-Cola to Ford to global conglomerate Unilever, demanding that Facebook monitor hate speech more aggressively. With pullouts mounting, the company's name constantly tied to racism and hate in the news coverage, CEO Mark Zuckerberg responded by live streaming part of an employee meeting, one of the few things he's done in that company's history. One of the few times he's done that, rather, in that company's history. Then, on Wednesday, Facebook's powerhouse policy and communications chief, former British Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, issued an open letter titled, Facebook does not benefit from hate, touting its efforts to police its content.
The boycott at Merge is a crucial test for a company that has become a key player in American politics simply because of what it hosts and promotes on its site, which until recently had been vocally doubling down its commitment to keeping an open platform for user speech. The thing about this, like, stop hate speech, like, how much of that hate speech is really even people? How much of that hate speech is troll farms? 19 of the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook were found to be run by Russian troll farms. How many of this, how much of this hate speech is led even by our own government?
How much of this hate speech is fake? And they use it so they can crack down on all kinds of speech.
Exactly. And I think that's the thing right there is, whether they use the term hate speech or misinformation or disinformation, these have become labels that they slap on people, on our accounts. Right now, on Instagram, now, for the last few months, they've been shadow banning me under the guise of disinformation.
How do you know you've been shadow banned?
Because when people screenshot what they see, when they try to follow my account or when they try to at mention me in a repost, they get this warning screen that comes up from Meta or from Instagram that says, are you sure you want to follow this person who has repeatedly been found to be spreading disinformation? And I've gone through the things and looked at some of the examples of what Instagram has deemed to be disinformation.
Here. it is right here.
Exactly.
The account has been repeatedly posted false information that was reviewed by independent, these fact checkers are independent, by the way.
Of course.
Independent fact checkers are went against our community guidelines. Do you want to at mention this account when you try to tag Tulsi Gabbard?
For the account holder, for me, they don't allow any means to appeal or provide counter evidence to these fact checkers.
Do they at least provide you what the posts are?
In. the one example I'm thinking of is one where I cited the UN article, and it was an actual article reporting the UN statement.
essentially legitimizing pedophilia, saying that sex with minors shouldn't be demonized. And I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember the exact article, but that was the statement. And I posted a shot of the headline and the article, which is clearly cited, and the independent quote unquote. independent fact checkers said that I have misinterpreted the article. And therefore that was, you know,
Can we see what that actual article says? What does the actual article say?
Let me see if I can find it.
Jamie can probably find it.
It was a UN statement or policy that was passed.
Were they trying to use the term minor attracted people?
I don't know that they used that term. Isn't that insane?
That one's insane.
It is insane.
That's like saying a murder is a murder attracted person.
Yeah, someone attracted to killing people.
The criminals do more than us to take care of the pedophiles, and it's sad. Criminals, yeah, they do more than us. We do nothing. I don't know what I'm looking for again. I have something, but I don't know.
I would look for, like United Nations sex with minors.
This is from a few months ago.
Oh, yeah, that they legalized it.
I mean, they're not in the business of legalizing things, but they're in the business of advocating for policy changes.
And so the idea on their side was what? To stop demonizing people that are attracted to minors?
Right, that it should not be.
How scary is that? It is so insane. Every one of their policies is the kind of stuff that somebody like Governor Green follows. He follows, I mean, from what I've seen.
But that's insane. That's insane.
All the politicians, they push. It's like. that's how you get to the next level. You want to be the best. You want to get to the next level.
Do what the UN is saying to do. That's where all the money is.
The claim quickly circulated across social media platforms, including on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Was that it? Does it show the actual, what actually the UN said?
It all shows on this website.
Oh, well, that's not enough.
Which I think it's interesting. I'm seeing a whole lot of parsing of words there.
Like the bridge between it.
But I would like to know what they did say. that would even.
Let's see it.
That would even allow people to believe.
That they said that.
That they said that. That seems just insane as it is.
The problem with Googling this.
Duck, duck, go. Yeah, you got to go, duck, duck, go.
Try this in duck, duck, go. Well, it won't be curated, Jamie. And that's what's important.
When you get to things that are curated, it gets me uncomfortable.
Yes.
Well, that's good. That means it's probably not true. Let's find out if it is true. Fact check. Post misrepresents.
What is. Okay. So scroll down to that. one. New UN report advocates for decriminalizing sexual violence.
So this is one of those websites. This is from April 16th. Okay. What does it say? Principle 16, titled consensual sexual conduct, reads.
Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status, may not be criminalized in any circumstances. Consensual same sex, as well as consensual different sex sexual relations or consensual sex relations with or between trans, non-binary or other gender diverse people, or outside marriage, whether premarital or extramarital, may therefore never be criminalized. With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a nondiscriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex gender of the participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law.
In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacities of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to nondiscrimination guarantees. Now, that to me could be interpreted as like you say that 16 year old people should be allowed to have sex with other 16 year old people, which doesn't necessarily, you know what I'm saying, like. they're not saying. older people are allowed to have sex with younger people.
Why not 10 years old? According to this statement, why wouldn't that apply to a 17 year old having sex with a 10 year old or however old, saying, well, hey, it was consensual?
Does a 10 year old have the ability to make that decision?
It says the laws should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. But the thing is that saying people under 18 engaging in sexual conduct, it doesn't say them engaging in sexual conduct with people older than that. If it did, then I would say, yeah, you're legalizing pedophilia. But what I think you're doing is you're allowing people under 18 to have sex, which they're going to do anyway.
I guess here's the issue with this statement and why I raised it as a concern. is it does not, I mean, it doesn't say, well, OK, as long as you have two kids under the age of 18, but above the age of whatever, 10 or 12, or, you know, is the consensual. It's so vague as to say, well, why, why shouldn't a 12 year old have that capacity to make their own autonomous decisions about consensual sex, whether it's with a 17 year old or a 20 year old, or a 40 year old or a 60 year old? It says it shall not be criminalized.
So it could open the door for someone interpreting that and saying that sex with someone under 18 years of age isn't criminal anymore.
And this is the problem here is it speaks to, I mean, we've seen over and over again, well, you know, from pedophiles, well, hey, she wanted it or she agreed to it, or whatever, you know, or vice versa. You know, teachers who are sexually abusing kids in their grade schools, middle schools or whatever, saying, well, it was consensual for a teacher to have sex with their 13 year old student.
Right. But when you posted this, what did you... See? if you can find what you posted.
It's weird to make a law like that. Like, what are you saying? You're saying that young kids can have sex legally? Is that what you're saying? Like, I don't know what you're saying there.
Because, like, if they're saying that, you know, it shouldn't be a crime for 17 year olds to have sex with each other. Okay. I agree with that. But if you're saying other people can have sex with them, like, I think 18 is a good number. 18 is a good number.
It's a good legal, especially for men. It's a good legal cutoff number. When you start, if they're saying that you should be able to have sex with people who are minors, I would imagine it would be like way more laid out than that.
Which is kind of, which is basically what they're saying is that the capacity for anyone under the age of 18...
To make their own decisions. Right.
To provide consent. And that's where it, just like, you know, you get into the whole power dynamic again of teachers and students. You know, I mean, not actually not bosses, but people who are in positions of authority or power. How does a 10 year old or a 12 year old have the capacity to make that decision for themselves? Or to see through this person who is an authority figure in their lives, who has somehow manipulated their minds to convince them that this is the right thing or this is the best thing, or whatever.
And that statement about not allowing that to be criminalized and not recognizing the need to protect children. The need to protect children. And then you look at that statement within the context of what's happening across our country and the world, where our kids are being sexualized in, like kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade. Shown these picture books that I've seen myself, that are more sexually graphic than anything I've ever seen in my life, that are targeted for middle school kids. Then you match that with this policy statement coming from the UN and you see the danger here of the normalization of sexualizing our kids.
Of the normalization of minor attracted people, of people in positions of authority. And there are leaked videos showing this saying, hey, these minor attracted people should be allowed to serve as teachers in our schools where they're in a position to, I mean, they are supposed to protect our kids in that position. And yet these minor, self-identified minor attracted people are in a position where they can very easily abuse that trust that parents place in them and act on their sick desire.
Are there any examples of minor identified people identifying themselves as minor, attracted people teaching kids?
Yes. I mean, I've seen TikTok videos of these people. There was a leaked, like hidden, someone took with their iPhone video of like a, I don't know if it was a school meeting or a teacher meeting or whatever of someone from the school saying, hey, you shouldn't be discriminating against someone because they're a minor, attracted person.
So someone who was working for the school, like in some sort of a capacity to make decisions.
Justifying this.
Was justifying having someone who is a legitimate pedophile on staff.
And that's, you know, of course, they'll never use that term.
That's so crazy that that term is so, like they did. changing the terms changes what it is.
But that's the, that's the power of language, though.
Yeah.
That's bananas. That is, that is so insane that they would go with that. Because I remember that was going on a few years ago and people rejected it. Yeah. Someone made the term minor, attracted persons and everybody blew up left and right.
And now it's sort of like, it's okay.
Yeah. Right. And that's why they call it a spelling, right? Casting a spell.
It kind of is in this case. Did you find out what you actually posted?
But I can see taking the right away from the parents. I mean, just being parents ourselves. Right. Taking the right away from parents and it.
Yeah.
That's everything. That's the whole thing.
Here's what I said.
That's the whole thing.
In a taxpayer funded campaign to push quote unquote woke ideology onto the world. The UN is advocating for the decriminalization of adults having sex with children, regardless of the child's age. So long as the child quote unquote consents. at the very least, American taxpayers should not be underwriting the UN until it stops all promotion of pedophilia and sex trafficking.
And I posted a screenshot of an article from the Washington Free Beacon that says headline UN says minors can consent to sex, which is essentially the statement that you read. And then it quotes sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual. if, in fact, if not in law, the UN says.
Well, that way, if they said it that way, that's. that sounds to me like an adult having sex with someone who's under 18 and that they can consent to that. That sounds like what that says. Now, why would anybody with all the problems in the world, if you're really worried about climate change, you're really worried about Russia taking over Ukraine, you really. Why are you so concerned with young kids being able to consent to sex?
Right. That seems insane.
And here's what the. here's what one of the agenda this last.
But it's like you're just trying to destroy people's faith in life. I mean, if I really wanted to go full tinfoil hat, you know, Yuri Bezmenov, like conspiracy from 1984, where he was describing how the breakdown of American demoralization, the breakdown of democracy, was engineered by Russia. And that's how you would demoralize people. Yeah. That's, that's a great way to do it.
I mean, it's sneaky, but it's a great way to do it.
And beatings will continue until morale improves. That's what it is.
Always. Well, look how quickly people rolled over during COVID. It was. it's fascinating. It was fascinating to watch how quickly people just trusted wholesale the pharmaceutical drug companies, the same people that got us into the opioid crisis.
Well, you know what? I believe it is. And and, you know, just from our relationships of living life, it's all a lot of it. Not it's all I shouldn't. I can never say that.
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