#2106 - Kid Rock

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I love that chain. What is that chain?

It's my tattoo. It's my logo. American Badass.

That's pretty badass.

That sounds like stoner talk.

It is. It is stoner talk. Most of my conversations are stoner talk. But high level.

I used to be Tom Petty's weed dealer. In a sense. Like he would come to town. He married a girl from Saginaw, Michigan. I forget her name.

Was this before or after you were doing music?

Oh, this was when I was a big star.

Oh, really? No shit. Were you hanging with Tom Petty?

Not really. I was just taking him weed. Trying to hang out with him.

You know, that's how Tom Petty died. Somebody got him some pills.

Oh, was it fentanyl?

Fuck, fuck, fuck. I don't remember what his injury was, but he was hurting. And a roadie got him some fentanyl.

Terrible.

That's how Prince died, too.

I've heard that in the elevator.

Same thing. Pain.

We all know people. It's a travesty.

It's a horrible thing.

Well, let's just go right at the border.

Well, it's the border, but it's also the opioid crisis that was created by the Sackler family. I mean, those motherfuckers just got a giant percentage of the population hooked on heroin.

In case you were ever thinking about quitting drugs,

If you're buying a testing kit to make sure you don't die, you probably should reconsider your options.

Might want to revisit whiskey. Yeah.

Wheat's not bad. Wheat and whiskey, it's a good combination. You don't want to go down that road. Although, I've heard it's awesome. Not fentanyl, but cocaine.

I had a good run.

You did pretty good. Considering it all worked out pretty well.

I'm not advocating for it at any level.

I don't think anybody is.

That's my honest experience. Like, hey, you know, I came out okay.

That's the thing. There's people that will tell you they're weed advocates. There's no, like, coke advocates. There's no people like,

Is weed fixing lives?

We can fix people. Depends on who you are.

I don't know if you're sick.

Yeah, for a guy like me, weed's a good drug. A guy like me, weed just, like,

chills you down. My brother's a huge weed smoker. He'll always be, like, you know, for golfing or some shit, and I'm drinking my beers, having my fun. I'm always like, you know, you drive.

Yeah, for some people, weed makes you nicer. Calms you down. Makes you a little more sensitive. A little more compassionate.

Yeah, everything affects people differently. I've drank tequila three times. Only three? I've been to jail three times. Do the math.

So what do you think tequila does to you differently?

Ah, it just makes me want to punch you right in the mouth. Really? Oh, fuck. That's it.

The Mexican influence.

Hey, Kid Rock, nice to see you. What the fuck's the matter with him?

Why tequila? I have no idea. What does it do? It just makes you hyper?

It makes me fucking, hyper, violent, fucking... You know, it could have been a combination of maybe those few times I drank it. I was just in a headspace where, you know, you can be in different headspaces when you're doing different things.

And you could blame it on the tequila.

But I kind of have a rule that I really try not to, like, you know... I've really mellowed out in the last ten years or so, but I really try not to get tuned up unless I'm in a good spot. In a good mood, with good people. They don't want to be, like, you know, all worked up after watching Fox News for six hours. Ready to fucking, you know, slay the beast and start pounding whiskey and go to the club.

Dude, if you watch Fox News for too long, you will think it's the end of the world.

Oh, I do. And it is.

It might be. It really might be. Did you see the fucking Tim Dillon thing that I posted yesterday? It's legit. Yeah, I know.

Is that the gay comedian? He's fucking great.

He's hilarious. He had a picture with a girl. He said, I'm getting married. The homosexuality thing was just a phase. And RFK Jr.

Fucking great.

Amazing. In that sense, it's an amazing time.

He don't scare me.

No, he shouldn't scare you.

He doesn't scare me.

He should do the opposite of scare you. It should scare you, the opposition to him. Because if people listen to what he says and you pay attention to what he says and you actually research what he says, he's telling the truth. We've been fucked over and lied to for so long that he seems like a crazy person. Look at that.

Un-gayed. Fuck, I learned something. I haven't been here five minutes. My new favorite word. Usually I'm just using gay and appropriate all the time.

Yeah. It used to be a thing that we would say. Something's gay. Imagine from the time of the Flintstones. The Flintstones was we had a gay old time.

Do you remember playing Smear the Queer when you were a kid?

I never played that. What is it?

You give somebody the football and everyone tries to tackle them. In grade school you just ran around. We didn't even know what queer meant. The name of the game was Smear the Queer.

I never played that. Did you play that, Jamie? Yeah.

You're from the Midwest.

Yeah, he's from Ohio. They didn't have that where I grew up.

Where'd you grow up?

Boston. I mean, I'm sure they had it.

Fuck, I would think it was invented in Boston.

I lived a fucked up life. Not fucked up, but just. my high school years was all martial arts. It was all from the time I was like 15 until I was 21.. All I did was train and compete.

That's a lot of discipline.

Yeah, a lot of obsession. A lot of discipline and obsession, but it was very weird socially. So it went from that to being a stand-up comedian, which is like the complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Hanging out with maniacs or doing drugs and staying up all night. Just complete polar opposite.

Huh. You got a lot of money. now you can make up for it. Fast track it. Before I get it all done in like two years with the loot you've made.

Yeah.

I found that to be a problem at times for people.

Money?

No, that didn't experience, you know, a certain coming of age things, whether it's, you know, crazy chasing girls, you know, that whole thing, doing drugs, you know, just being kind of wild, you know, stealing people's statues out of the yard, whatever crazy shit like that you do when you're young. And then they reach this point, a lot of it, with athletes because they were so focused in their training at such a young age. And then they get to that point where they get money and they're like, I want to taste it all. That's true. And then they kind of get fucked up.

Yeah, you can lose your bearings. That's true. That is the case with a lot of athletes. A lot of athletes get fat, too. They just fuck it.

Well, you get that big muscle and then it's so hard to fucking maintain. as you get older. You start to lose your lean muscle, you know about all that stuff. Yeah. All of a sudden, two to ten beers a night doesn't seem like a bad idea.

Well, it's also like, I think, with athletes, especially with fighters, the rush of competition is so extreme that the regular world just seems so dull. And then, going back to the regular world, you don't feel like you have a real purpose anymore. You're not training for this big event that takes place every few months.

Like coming back from the military.

Yeah, like a lighter version of that. That's a big problem, with guys coming back from the military. Big problem. And no coaching at all. Nobody tells you what to do.

Seen it too many times.

Too many times. Too many times. So, what's it like being the dude who took out Bud Light?

Let's get right to it.

We were going to bring a few cases in here for you.

Switch sunglasses. Fuck, I'll drink it. I don't give a shit. Two kinds of beer in this world, cold and free. I like them both.

You were the straw that broke the camel's back.

I became the face of it. I'm not the Pied Piper to sit around and think like people follow what Kid Rock does. I just became the face of it.

Yeah, but they kind of do. They kind of do. Listen, man, when you got so upset that you were fucking machine gunning.

Throwing a tantrum with a machine gun.

With your machine gun cases of Bud Light. They want to put girls, they want to let guys.

play girls sports.

That was the end. That was really it. If there's one moment that they look back on and fucking go, shut! I've talked to them about it. I know you have.

Yeah, you were there at the UFC fight.

Yeah, and I met that dude, the CEO. He's a good guy, man.

We've become friends.

He's a great guy.

After five minutes of talking to him, I'm with Trump there in Dana's green room. I go, Trump, see that dude behind me? I go, that's the CEO, Bud Light. Or Anheuser-Busch. And Trump's like, you want to go talk to him?

or I love that dude.

I'll take a bullet for him. But we still talk.

That's a better place, to be, honestly.

And, like I said, they fucked up. And when you get to the grassroots of it, that's what they did. And there's so many people that work for that company, and you know all the stuff they've done. We don't have to be a broken record here.

It's a great company. They've done amazing things. Anheuser-Busch is an amazing, charitable company that do a lot of great things.

Yeah, and I dug into that, and I was educated on it. Even before Dana called me about his deal and things like that, people discussed with me. I did a little digging and talked to people. And I'm like, at the end of the day, I'm like, all right, they got the message. I'm not someone who holds a fucking grudge his whole life.

We stopped selling it at the Mothership because nobody was buying it. It got that bad.

You know, what's going on there?

It's nuts. It's stupid. I think it's stupid, and Shane Gillis brought it back a lot.

I love Shane. Shane's a buddy.

He's the best. He brought it back a lot because he never stopped drinking it.

One of the things I told them was, I go from the outside looking in, guys, as a friend, somebody who doesn't want to see this brand hurt and destroyed anymore. You got smacked on the ass. In a pretty hard spanking. I was like, but I don't want to hold your head underwater and drown. this fucking company, put people out of work, and that shit.

It's definitely the pursuit of losers, but the problem is those losers can actually affect businesses. That's what they know. They know now that it's possible, both on the right and on the left.

But they need to know. there's so many more businesses in this country deserving of that treatment. Fucking Ben and Jerry's, Starbucks, Target. The list goes on and on. I don't care if they're left-wing or right-wing, it's just their fucking ideology.

That's the most amazing one that they're supporting. And the fact that, was it the Olympic Boxing Committee? What was it that just allowed transgender women?

No, they're allowing the reverse.

What do you mean?

They're allowing, I always get confused here,

they're allowing chicks that sew on dicks.

to fight dudes, which I'd tune in for that.

Is that real?

I think so.

I thought it was biological. men who identify as females were going to be allowed to box.

Might be. I thought it was the other way too, but I don't know.

Jamie will find out. The other one's easy, sure. Go ahead, do it. Go for it. But at the end of the day, you're going to have to take steroids, and it's supposed to be illegal to take steroids.

Do we even have to think that deep about it? You can't just look at it and go like, no, that's fucking wrong, cut it out.

Well, it should 100% be wrong for biological males to compete against biological females.

Period.

And any bullshit that you say, like trans women are women, well, guess what? They're not. They're not biologically. They're not. They can identify as a woman, you want to call yourself Sally, I'll call you Sally, I'm a nice guy.

I didn't understand any of that.

I went into it deeply, unfortunately. Transgender men over 18 have to meet similar requirements. They must undergo genital reassignment surgery. Transgender men? Genital reassignment surgery.

Are there donor dicks?

They definitely do. For guys who get their dicks blown off,

they get them new dicks. Are they switching? Like, hey, I want to be a man, I want to be a woman?

I haven't heard of that yet, but I'm sure that's coming. But what they do not do is they don't give you the balls. Because if someone switches your balls, like, say, if you donate your balls, you die in a car accident, you donate your balls to science or whatever, and someone takes your balls and sews them on, that'll be your kids. Your genes will come out of those balls. So it won't be like a new person.

Why has this always come up in conversations? Is it the media? Because I don't remember the last time I seen it. And, by the way, if you're transgender and you're really fucking good at it, no one knows.

It was rare.

But I mean, just to have those clubs where they weren't, be a fucking blast. No big deal. This America, freedom. If you want to fucking be that, go ahead. I'll exist with you in society.

And that's how it should be. Yeah, pretty simple. Yeah, you should be able to do whatever you want. But when you want to compete as a woman, or you want to start, you know, if you're a 50-year-old man, you want to compete against young girls, which is what's going on in Canada. There's a guy who's 50 who identifies as a teenage girl.

I had a thought about that. So I'm thinking, like, it's Black History Month, right? I can get down with that. That makes sense. I think November is like Native American month.

Yeah, that's a good point. That's a real good point. Yeah. It's a weird time, man. It's a weird time because there's like so many fucking weird people that are involved in promoting these things and pushing them and changing what's normal and what's not normal to regular people.

It's just fucking weirdos and all these fucking mentally ill fucking nutcases. That's honestly why I carry a gun everywhere. Where I'm legal to, or I have somebody with me. It used to be like, okay, if I'm going somewhere where I thought that would make sense to do. I've always had a concealed weapons permit everywhere and whatnot.

Yeah. It's a strange time, man. In so many ways. People are. just...

they were saying the same shit in the 60s.

and 70s. They were. But the 60s and 70s were fucked too. We just forgot. Because the 80s were so easy.

Everyone was on blow.

There was a little bit of that. But it's also, the Cold War ended. The collapse of the Soviet Union. We weren't worried. There wasn't this existential threat hanging over our heads.

But now it's back. Now it's back.

Yeah. Fun times.

We've done a 360.. Fun times.

Real fun. Chinese people are entering over the border.

Unbelievable. Yeah. I had no thought on that. I think I saw it on a t-shirt. I don't take credit for everything I say, because most likely I'm just repeating something I saw somewhere.

Yeah.

China built one. how many thousands of years ago? Fucking, make it a tourist attraction. Charge people. Go fucking, hang out on the wall.

a real weird thing, like what they're doing. There's so many different people that have opinions about why they're leaving it open and why they're allowing people to come in and setting them up. Dr. Phil was on here yesterday and he was talking about it. I like Dr.

He's starting his own network. I played his show years ago. Did you? It was like so many anniversary show. It turned out, it was one of his favorite acts and I fucking played a banjo on there.

He's a good dude. Yeah. I'm friends with his son. Son's a good friend of mine. But he's starting a network.

So he created his own network. The HR department?

Yeah.

Yeah. Kid only wanted to be a cat, took a litter box to school. Fuck the good old days.

Yeah, people don't get better. Society doesn't get better. Just gets, unless something happens, unless they figure out some sort of mind reading software. Well, unfortunately.

usually that turns out to be tragedy. Right. Something really fucked up happens. You know, like what happened in Israel, or worse. Right.

When 9-11 happened, I tell everybody, like, even in Los Angeles, which is probably the most unpatriotic place on earth. Everybody had an American flag on their car. People were letting people in lanes. They were waving to people. They were friendly.

Everybody, half the country, didn't hate George W. Bush for almost 48 hours.

They didn't hate him at all when he gave that one great speech. No, I mean, it was.

a couple weeks, a couple months, whatever it was, but then things kind of went back to.

normal. There was a lot of liberals that liked him. after that. They were like, that's what you want when you're in times of war. You want a strong.

leader. It's too bad. we can't get to that without having something terrible happen. If we could just have a little more civil discourse in this country. You can go tell me to go fuck myself.

I was like, fuck. That's actually good advice.

Yeah.

It's pretty solid advice.

Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the head of marketing for Bud Light,

Kid Rock. That would be.

their ultimate move. Be funny as shit. Are you? I actually told him we should do a skit like the Kenny Powers K-Swiss. 100%.

that would work, but they need to get back to, you know, remember we used to have those real men of genius ads. It was fun. It was. Bud Light was fun. It was a fun.

all my old pictures, how many pictures I found with like fucking Bud Light in my hand, like fishing, doing something or like playing Sturgis with a big Bud Light, you know, next to the stage. It's like, you know, I've done so much cool, good shit.

Well, that's why, when a guy like you shoots the cans, everybody goes, oh, that's it. It's over. It's over. And trust me,

I don't have one of these teams of people. It's like, it's me, like, you know, maybe Corey, who's here with me, I'm like, let's have some fun. Go, get all the fucking, tell Farm guys to get all the fucking Bud Light shit together and grab my fucking MP5..

Yeah, I didn't think you ran that by a marketing department.

No. There's not much that goes through one over here.

A marketing department for a guy like you would just fuck things up. What kind of advice could they possibly give you? They'd have to be maniacs too. And then they would never be in marketing.

I've had more people, managers and stuff through the years. tell me, which I take as a compliment, they tell me like, just everything you've done to get where you're at, I would have told you no.

Yeah, but it's obvious, though, that it's all you. That's what people like. In this day and age, where everything is sort of planned ahead and it's bullshit and scripted. You've seen.

behind the curtain. Sure. These pop stars and people's big levels and their They're trapped. It's like a politician, you know, like Biden, that won't, can't say anything off the teleprompter. Well,

of course he can't, but it's also it's, you've got a whole team of people behind you. you've got a bunch of people that want to keep their jobs and they want to play it safe. They want to play it safe and they want to figure out which way is the wind blowing. this is what we're going to do. And you see it in celebrities, and people turn on them now, because it's like so disingenuous and they realize what you're doing.

It wasn't even an idea. Whatever it was.

a thought that popped into your head, that you acted on. That's pretty much what it is. Yeah, that's obvious.

That's what they all are.

That's what people like. That's what people like. They're like real people.

And sometimes you don't always turn a 10.. You're like, oh yeah, maybe I should have thought that one through a little bit more.

Most of the things I say. I've done so many podcasts hammered and then, after we're all listening or thinking about what we said, like what did we say? Oh boy.

Story of my fucking life.

Yeah, but people like that. They're like real humans. They don't want some fucking pre-programmed bullshit shoved down their throat just to make a little bit more money.

That's incredible. That kind of seems like a big chunk of the country wants that. They want to go back to this normal, fucked up DC. All the bullshit that's been going on there. I would dare say, for our lifetimes.

One thing no one can deny is that he exposed the media. He exposed the media for being essentially a propaganda agent. It's not just the news. And to pretend it's the news. they never covered anything that he did.

How many times have you been watching the evening news? I'm a sucker for news. I'll flip between CNN and MSNBC and Fox. Mainly Fox, but then I'll watch the evening news. I'll watch ABC one night, NBC.

away with that? They get away with it because they are the news. And no one's checking them. There's not another news. If the news was real, the other news organizations would go.

horrible propaganda.

and what you've done is you've edited out a former president. You've changed his words. This should be illegal. You're taking it completely out of context. The whole thing is so fucking screwball.

Hillary Clinton did it and Stacey Abrams. No fucking big deal.

He didn't really win the election. They all said there was Russian collusion. They all said that he was essentially an agent of Russia. They all said that he's an illegitimate president. They all said that he didn't win the election.

Pencil neck fucking dick fuck Adam Schiff.

It's crazy how people still listen to those folks.

How can you be wrong about some election? I'm not a conspiracy guy or whatever, but I'm like fucking. it just seems like shenanigans.

I love when anybody says I'm not a conspiracy guy.

I'm a total fucking conspiracy guy. Fuck it. I don't give a shit either way, but I was like there's so many fucking shenanigans that it's coming so fast with the COVID shit and ballots all over the place. Secretary of State's are taking liberties, but here's my position. Wait, let me finish this one.

The thing, the statement is there's no evidence that they've been hacked.

It ain't a crime if you don't get caught either.

It is true, but there is evidence that you can hack those machines. Right? And wasn't that Jamie, the subject of? they were going to update the machines in 2024 or something like that? But they're going to update them, but they weren't at a certain point in time when they were recording this, where they were reporting on this.

all happening. Well, I think a lot of that will be taken away if we cap the money. You can raise, let's call it $10 million. You can each raise $10 million. Now let's see who spends it the wisest.

Well, it seems insane that you could just donate fucking untold millions of dollars, these super PACs, and they can support these presidents. They're essentially running the country. Because you can't beat them. And they play dirty. They play so dirty.

They're going to run Biden right out of there.

Make no mistake. Oh, they're running him out right now.

They're fucking running him out. That's why all these.

crimes, or all these things he's being charged for, and then that judge's decision, how about that judge's decision, that he was too mentally compromised?

That was the prosecutor's decision, or was it? Her, whatever? his name was, H-U-R. So who was it? That was in his report.

Yeah, let's see what the exact quote was. Does anybody out there need that?

fucking report to just watch this guy and go like, hey, I feel bad for him. He's fucking old. We're all going to get there someday. Yeah. Can you not fucking?

It's the people that work under him. Because if he goes, they go. Then everybody gets appointed by the new person. Special counsel. Yeah, okay.

God bless his son.

But think about just that, the way they wrote that. The 81-year-old Democrat's memory. Why would they write that? That seems so nuts. He's the president!

Is that the Washington AP writing that, or is that in the special prosecutor's report? I was unclear.

I was unclear as well.

Because that's different. Of course the AP is going to say that. I can't see the special prosecutor saying that. No, I don't think so. Because then it sounds very political.

Yeah, but it's such a crazy thing to say to call him a Democrat. He's the president! He's our leader. That I would put past the media. It's wild, but this is what I'm saying about.

He can't speak. And he's going to run again.

He can hardly fucking walk. But it seems like when they release information like that, they know what they're doing. They're slowly chipping away at it. And by the time, probably, I would say like May rolls around, it'll probably be Gavin Newsom. That would be my guess.

I can't, how the fuck can they run Gavin? I keep hearing that Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama, like Gavin Newsom, how the fuck? When you just look at California, one of the most beautiful states, arguably the most beautiful in America. Resources for days, fucking everything. And they just, him, fucking Pelosi, fucking Maxine Waters, fucking Adam Schiff, they just fucked the whole state up, like, fucked it up.

You gotta wonder how much of it is by design. You gotta wonder of it, how much is designed to make the population more unstable, more violent, more scared, more crime, less, less ability to prosper, everybody goes like, everyone's, much more vulnerable.

Well, this seems like a lot of work of the Democrats, though. It seems like something.

is probably behind it. that's bigger than that.

And if I would guess, it's probably.

conspiracy theorists, right? I'm 100% a conspiracy theorist. I love a good conspiracy. I believed in Bigfoot until about 8 years ago.

Fucking the Yeti's another story. I didn't say, I didn't believe.

in the Yeti. I don't anymore. But I was all in for a while. But I've been down. so many rabbit holes, so many 9-11 rabbit holes, so many bohemian grove.

rabbit holes. I went there once. I got kicked out.

Did you? You went to the grove? Yeah. Oh, shit. Why'd you get kicked out?

Fucking, weird. Fucking, weird. I punched a kid in the head.

You punched a kid in the head? In Bohemian Grove?

Yeah, it turns out. It turns out this fucking kid was an infiltrator. So then, after that, I was kind of this hero. Like a year or two later, he'd come back. I was like, I'm not coming to your little, fucking, weird party out in the fucking woods.

So the infiltrator, what happened with you and the infiltrator?

We were sitting around this fire. You have these little. they're kind of like treehouses or campsites, but they're really nice. Everyone has a private chef. Really?

Meanwhile, your kid rock and you're getting left alone by these people with some fucking crazy person, and you defend yourself.

Fucking weird. There's gonna be.

a certain percentage of people that are just out of their fucking minds. And if you haven't vetted them, that's on you. Don't kick them out.

For all I remember, it could have been drunk shit or whatever. It wasn't the end of the world. It was a little tussle and a little hit the ground, maybe a punch here and there. It was like, you know, then it was done. It wasn't like, you know.

But it was a fight. You're just a nice guy. You didn't beat him to death. It was a tussle. You're a nice guy.

in Bohemian Grove? I've never heard of John Ronson.

John Ronson's a brilliant guy. He's the, uh, what is his exact? He's an author. He wrote that book. So You're Getting Publicly Shamed about, like, social media shaming.

owl statue. Oh, I was at the owl statue. This is fucking hilarious. So I'm there on day one, right? And we're drinking beers, like, it's pretty laid back.

And I'm like, what?

I'm like, come on, man. Who's the fucking boss? Tell them, bitches. Which you would have just gone up there and been like, who's the boss,

bitch? That's hilarious.

I was like, no fucking way, man. I was like, we came all the way to this secret ass shit, and I love Tony. Fucking love him. But I'm like, come on, man. I was like, they brought Reagan back from the dead and he's gonna speak.

I gotta say, but. Maybe they toned it down. Maybe they toned it down. This has to be.

20 years ago. Oh, really? I'm terrible with dates, but it's a long time ago.

Okay, because when Alex snuck in, was like,

I did have some fun there, I gotta say. It was fucking weird. I met like, Paul Pelosi and his son. Oh, boy. And like, Chris Matthews.

Oh, no. And like, sing at one of these.

camp things. I was like, I feel so used. I feel so dirty. Like, I don't do this shit, man. What the fuck?

Yeah, that's gotta be weird. Hey, man, play us a song.

Well, it's kind of like an unspoken requirement. Like a wink-wink. Like, you need to take your guitar over there, you know, if you wanna be in good graces or be a team player type deal. And I'm like, yeah, I really don't.

A friend of mine went to a party, and in the middle of the party, Michael Bolton just starts singing. And everybody gathers around while Michael Bolton was standing there singing. Was it set up? Yeah, it was set up. Oh, that's funny.

How do you know? You didn't know.

But it was just like, what's going on? Then, how do you know? All of a sudden, Michael Bolton's singing, and everyone just be quiet. It's not a bad.

strategy, if you don't want to look like a putz, to like, otherwise, just like, hey, these motherfuckers paid me a shit ton of money,

and I'm gonna sing some songs. Right, that's what it is. It's like the ultimate flex. You know? Yeah.

That's how I used to fund my foundation, doing corporate.

gigs. Dude, Dana White had a birthday party.

I've played it a few times. I know you have.

I know you have. And Dana White's birthday parties are wild. And he had a birthday party, I think it was for his 40th, and Stone Temple Pilots played. Dude, they put on a show like it was a fuckin' packed arena. That's what I did.

I mean, I know you do. Ask Dana. That's exactly what he said to me. He goes, there's 150 people here. I go, where'd you think you were?

That's exactly what he told me. You kinda gotta put.

yourself in that mindset. Fuck yeah. Those things can be fuckin' grueling.

Right. They can be weird if people aren't paying attention. And the Stone Temple Pilots thing, there wasn't a lot of people there. There was only a few hundred people there. It was crazy to see.

a couple hundred people. Dude was.

killin' it. Killin' it. He had the bullhorn out and everything. Oh, Scott was the best, man. Oh, my God, what an animal that guy was.

Yeah, he was fuckin' loved Scott. God bless him.

They killed that show. It was really good, man. It was really good and you felt like super lucky to be there. That's great. You know, there's something about seeing something where there's not a lot of people around to see it.

Kroger. Can we talk about that punch? at the last fuckin' one? we were at? Sittin' there.

might be the hardest puncher in that division.

I never heard anything like that. Yeah, he.

hits so hard. I thought the guy was dead. Yeah, well, that was a crazy combination of Bryce Mitchell moving forward quick and then him catching him right at the end of one of the most powerful punchers ever in the 145-pound division. Yeah. Show that again.

You can't appreciate it without the smack.

Smack! Look at the fuckin' physique on this animal. I mean, Josh Emmett is just a ball.

of muscle.

Bro, that guy hits...

It sounded like somebody smacked a 2x4 against a garbage can.

Bro, if that guy hits anybody, they go night-night. I mean, anybody. Damn. Anybody. He had this fight with Michael Johnson, and it was a...

Boom!

One shot, dude. One shot. I mean, crazy power, man. I mean, his power is preposterous. He's got the total, what Firas Zahabi calls the touch of death.

These guys are getting bigger. Nope, they're just getting stronger, but their technique's getting better. It's like any sport. It just keeps...

There's a lot of factors. There's a lot of factors to having that kind of power, and some of it is just pure genetics. Some of it is just, you just got lucky. You got that frame. Whatever it is, like Josh, he's built like, if you look at his body, it's just like a fucking tank.

I still don't know all the names. I know a handful of names.

It was the featherweight title this past weekend. No. It was Alexander Volkanovski. He was trying to defend his title against Ilya Toporiya. And Volkanovski's been dominant in this division forever.

Well, do any of those guys go and go like, you know what, my chances are about 50-50 on this one.

No. Some guys have respect, you know, for their opponents. They say things like, he's a great champion.

That's no fun, though. That's no fun. This is a talk shit. sport. It is.

And it's also part of the psychological warfare, because that shit works. Especially on some people. Some people like Nate Diaz, it doesn't work on at all. You can talk shit to him all day long. That's not going to change anything about the kind of ass whooping you're going to get.

It's a lot of fucking, even in my business, music. Yeah. You see people, when that red light comes on? When you're doing something like live or taped to television or whatever, you see people, that red light comes on. I even have band members.

How much... How difficult was it for you when you first started getting famous? Because you go from being a regular dude to being Kid Rock in not a lot of time.

What was it like getting pussy? No. It wasn't like being the man. That's pretty much what it was.

But was it stressful? Was it like hard to deal?

with? Fuck. no. Wasn't it all? It was fucking awesome.

It's so tough. What do you think about people that can't handle it? What do you think it is?

Fucking. get away from it. Britney Spears, move back to wherever the fuck you're from. Where's she? from?

I think Britney's in Vegas now, right?

Oh, so much better.

Yeah, it's better for her health.

I'm not going to do heroin anymore. I've stepped it down to crack.

And gambling.

There's ways to get away from it. There's ways. Trust me, you know this too. So many of these people, because I've been here and seen this first fucking hand of the front row seat. Half these people are telling these people.

It's a publicity game. It's weird. And it works. You can make a lot of money that way. I don't hate the games.

I will never get the big ass thing. I don't get it. It's just right over my head.

You don't like big asses at all? No. Really? You like them little?

Just fucking small, white, pancake ass with huge tits.

Every man has his type.

Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Everybody has his type. But there's this fucking ass movement in the last ten, some years. It's awesome. It's awesome to watch.

You just don't know what the appeal is?

None.

I don't think I could be further from you in that department. I love a good ass. A girl that looks like she could squat.

Sly Stone? Different strokes for different folks.

Girls look like they could pick up heavy kettle bells.

I don't have a heavy kettle bell.

Different strokes for different folks. And isn't that the message anyway? Yeah, totally. It's really what it should be.

I'd say everything against it. I'm just saying I don't get it.

Yeah, I get that, you don't get it. And that's okay. You got like a 1970s sensibility. The Catherine Bach days. Dukes of Hazzard.

See, if a girl with a huge ass drove up into General Lee, I'd definitely be excited.

That lady was so pretty. Oh my god. I remember watching that show. That's not even possible to be that pretty. How the fuck is she that pretty?

All those shows. Love Boat. Fantasy Island. Dukes of Hazzard.

How about Charlie's Angels? Charlie's Angels.

With guns.

Welcome to Fantasy Island. He's in a suit.

They got a little guy in a suit. He's got an accent? Oh, fuck. Turn it up.

Was there always a lesson in Fantasy Island? Like they didn't really need what they were asking for and they should have just stayed where they were. Wasn't there like those kind of messages? I don't remember.

Wasn't it? be kind of like careful what you wish for?

Those were always that way. You know? There's always like a trick. The genie's got a trick. Careful what you wish for.

Totally.

Imagine if that was real. Imagine if genies were real.

I was always jealous of Ricky Schroeder and Silver Spoons. I'm like, fuck, look at all these kids. He's got a fucking train in his living room, man. How cool is that? Pinball machines everywhere.

That's what social media is doing. times 10, right? Yeah. Imagine being a kid today and just dealing with all this social media shit.

Trying to keep up with the Joneses.

Impossible.

I think it's even worse. I have, well, my granddaughter's nine, but I have nieces who are teenagers and going through all that stuff, and it's, man, the influence it has over them, and then what the other kids say and then what they're all saying on social media and what the new trend is and what the new this. I think it's always been that way, but now it's just exaggerated times a thousand, because everything's right there.

It's a difficult thing for adults to handle. The emotional aspect of going back and forth with people and comments and stuff, and the whole world is commenting on things. When they're doing that to each other, the kind of pressure that they're putting under them, no kids have ever experienced that before. No kids have ever grown up with that before. This is a totally new pressure.

I think it's a devil. I said that the year Twitter came out, you might be able to look this up, I think it was in Rolling Stone or somewhere, whatever, they're like, what do you think about Twitter? And I said, Twitter's fucking gay. This is right when it came out.

Oh, right, the early days.

Yeah, can I get promoting stuff and this, that, and the other? Fucking getting a rise out of somebody, stirring the pot. But then the funny part was, years later, Twitter blew up to be this huge fucking thing and they're like, this fucking reporter's getting kind of snooty with me. He's like, you said, and I quote, Twitter's gay. I'm like, no fucking way.

The I gotcha questions, like that. You said.

That's why I stopped doing interviews like ten, so many years ago. Because you know, you used to have to promote something called every radio station in every market. It's like, that would be part of your day. Get up early. Which I was not good at back then.