Ethical Science is reborn, and Q&A 122

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Well, you know, we had a plug nickel for every time we heard the word science in the past four or five years. It'd be a miracle, friends, wouldn't it now? But how many times have you heard ethical science?

Peter McCullough. Okay, so this is kind of exciting. This first story we're going to talk about, friends, is a really cool project that the McCullough Foundation is behind and some others that are behind it. It's really, really cool. It's a new era for ethical science, and it is where they're taking and really fighting the corruption and the bias.

and, oh, man, that is a job, Dr. McCullough, how do you do that?

They have to be appropriate for the journal that ultimately publishes it.

There are tens of thousands of medical journals, tens of thousands. What we've seen over time is widespread corruption of the journals. They get tremendous amounts of advertising revenue from pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical companies control at least two-thirds of the clinical trials. They have ghost writers writing these papers, and then academic doctors' names are tagged on the author line.

And then during COVID-19, we saw, quite honestly, pure fraud that entered the medical journal arena. We saw unethical retractions of valid or perfectly scientifically justified papers, and the retractions were coming because some outside force wanted to suppress information on early treatment, or they wanted to suppress information on vaccine safety. It's always been one way. on the retractions. So much credit is given to Dr.

Jack Lyons-Weiler, who's a former PhD faculty at University of Pittsburgh, who had previously founded a journal titled Science, Public Health, Policy, and the Law. And that journal needed to be retooled on a fully interactive website where manuscripts could be submitted and peer-reviewed, and then ultimately published. And that journal has a solemn vow to never take a single dollar of money from pharmaceutical companies, never be influenced by that at all. And so, in a sense, it will be a pure source of ethical research, where we just don't have those biases injected.

I never did it, because the peer-reviewed process, once a paper goes through, that, it becomes fully vetted and valid. And when I made the editorial decision, a paper is published, it's published, period. Right. And if people don't like it, or they have alternative views, then they can write letters to the editor, and then there can be, you know, rebuttal letters back from the authors. That's the normal, academic, scholarly way of vetting information.

And so, it's our hope. I'm the, with the Journal of Science, Public Health, Policy, and Law, I'm the clinical section editor. The clinical part will be the heaviest traffic. We'll have that same approach, that we'll have rigorous peer review, but once a paper is fully accepted, that it's going to stand. It's not going to be, you know, there are reasons to retract a paper.

Retraction means pulling a paper back after it's fully published and part of medical history. And the reasons are published by the committee for the, on publication ethics, the COPE committee guidelines, and that if a paper is ultimately found out to be fraudulent after the fact, if the authors are found to have completely falsified the information, or if the authors ultimately come forward and said, you know, we want it retracted, we, you know, have committed fraud, that it can be retracted. But it can't be retracted just because somebody doesn't like it. Right.

And the interesting thing is that the retracted papers in COVID, that they actually got more attention than the papers that were fully accepted. So once a paper was retracted, people said, wait a minute, this has got to be important. And so, you know, it still gets citations. So the whole thing has become so distorted. Right.

If the peer review process works and people are honest in their work, there should be very few retractions.

That's the most prized one. But Google, Scholar, Scopus, there's a variety of them. And I've done this now with several journals. I know how to do it. There's an application.

And then, once it's fully indexed, then all the prior papers will go back in time and they'll be indexed. And then they become part of the National Library of Medicine forever. So indexing is very important. And then the journal, as you say, develops a track record and then there's a whole bunch of indices that are applied. One of the most commonly applied one is called the impact factor.

The impact factor means, you know, how important is it? And the journal itself. And a lot of academic institutions say, listen, we don't want our faculty publishing in anything that's less than an impact factor of three, for instance. It's an arbitrary scale. And so we want the impact factor to grow over time.

And then, each author themselves, they develop an H factor, which is a paper published by this person on average is read how many times. And so the H factor is another thing to look at. So there's a lot of metrics in the peer-reviewed publication space, because people not only want to publish, but they want to make an impact. So I've been careful in my career to keep those numbers high and, you know, make sure the work is impactful. And with the journal now, McCullough Foundation is a major financial supporter of the journal Science, Public Health, Policy, and Law.

We've made this investment with Dr. Jack Linesweiler, the working editorial offices, Harold Wallach, who's in Europe, that we have two other European societies that have provided financial support. But this is a global, independent, peer-reviewed medical journal that is really poised to take a prominent role, leading us out of this morass that we're in, where there's been a corruption and a bias in academic medicine through the COVID years and beyond.

In other words, I'm going to say it was an initiative for you. I'm just not putting words in your mouth, but I'm guessing here, based on all this, but that it was an initiative to set the record straight. I mean, you've seen all of the problems and the misnomers that happened throughout the COVID years, and everything was highlighted in the worst possible way. And, let's face it, all the times in the papers that we quote on this show and even on the network, people rely on this information. I mean, this is life saving information.

Is that a correct statement, right?

Ultimately, we will get it right. But things can be delayed for decades. I mean, the best example is Ignaz Semmelweis, mid-19th century. He did the original research and publication showing washing hands reduces infection in doctors performing pelvic exams. There was such a slam of him and censorship and reprisal for his work that the information really that was life saving information, the mortality rate in these poor women who got these infections was like 30%.

Lives were cost because of censorship of Ignaz Semmelweis. Just like we've seen now, lives were lost because of censorship over breaking information on early treatment and on vaccine safety.

So clearly, science for sure. But look at mandates and masking and lockdowns. That's public health policy. And then look at the law. Look at what we've seen, anything from Supreme Court decisions and various things that are impacting us greatly.

So it's the best name ever. I just think we're in great shape.

It's a large swath of life, valuable life information here. Now, the fact that this initiative, you know, how long, like the fact that you put the foundation behind this to support the project and really kick this off in a really interesting way with Dr. James Weiler there.

What, how long have you been thinking about this? I mean, I'm wondering, like, was this something that came up pretty quick? Or had you been, and I'm talking about since COVID, since we've been talking about all the things we've been talking about. When did this come into play?

And we need a place to publish independent scholarship that is peer-reviewed. You know, we're publishing on Substacks. We publish both column and podcast write-ups on America Out Loud. But the peer-reviewed standard is a different standard. And the idea to cite it is very important.

So that was pillar number one for McCullough Foundation is independent scholarship. Pillar number two is actually, you know, education through the media. And so, you know, getting behind this journal supports that, number two. Number three is our interaction with the legal field, and, you know, how expert opinion really, really matters in expert legal opinion. And the journal covers law.

And then the fourth area is public policy, how we influence McCullough Foundation through all its efforts influencing policy around the world. And a lot of that's, you know, my personal efforts, but also John Leake and now our fellow Nicholas Hulsher from University of Michigan. We're building relationships with other key scholars out there. So the journal was a good fit. It needed the financial support to go from simply a static website and a manual submission review process to a fully integrative website.

I encourage everybody, we'll put the link to the show notes, where the website is picking up news feeds from a lot of key sources. So key sub stacks, we hope to aim from our platform as well. And so not only will it be a journal submission website, but it'll be a website that will really, you know, be popping with the latest breaking scientific information.

And it's a good little write up in there. And that was just published here. So take a look at that. It's in the news feed here on the new site. Yeah.

So, well, this is very, this is really good stuff. I could not be prouder of the work you continue to do. And I mean, to put this all, it's like every time we turn a corner, it's like over these last four years, every time we turn a corner and you think, okay, you know, we'll get, we got this done, we'll get to the other side. It's like, you, never, you never stop. You know, you never stop.

I mean, you come up with, you know, it's just like, it's like everything. It's like the base spike, detox, coming out with these answers, trying to help people, trying to do this, trying to do that. I mean, you never stop. really, you know, it's amazing.

And on the, on the side of trying to help people, bringing people the truth, it's what we do on the platform every day. It's what we're essentially, our lives have been committed to now since the onset of the crisis.

It's been something I've been wanting to do. I don't know, it's been on my mind, on my heart, the last couple of months. That's how we got to spend some time on that, to really, you know, just inform people. the marvelous work you're doing. It's incredible.

So anyways, I wanted to get that all out there and, and get people to embrace it. And now look for that, that name, the science, public health policy, and the law. And you're so right when you say how much went wrong, all of those mandates. But I mean, in the health, in the public health policy arena, that's enough to keep you busy for the next lifetime plus, let alone the rest of it, right? I mean, it's crazy.

A lot of the stuff that comes out of there and the misnomers and the stuff that's being propagated and pushed onto unsuspecting people. And this kind of makes sense for you. It's just right in your ballywick, actually, the fact that you have a heart to pursue this, because you see all the mistruths that are spoken out there, all of the erroneous information, the bad science, the abusive nature of the word science, all the things that happened and took place. I love, that's why I love this ethical science. That's why I titled it that way, because it really is.

I mean, that's why I started the broadcast today. A lot of people hear the word science, but how many people hear the word ethical science? Probably not too many.

I mean, we're now forced in this world to understand some virology, immunology, biostatistics. We're almost forced in terms of our survival in order to be able to get our bearings on this.

And he sought out a naturopathic physician in Florida, and she used a whole variety of unconventional things.

And he was back in my office today, and she was sufficiently willing that we actually did a three-way. So she was on FaceTime. So I was able to see him, examine him, talk to her. He's lost like 40 pounds. His physical exam is completely better.

He just looks like a completely different person. And I concluded, I said, listen, whatever you're doing with him is really working. And it's multimodality. She kind of laid out the things that she's doing. And I think it's a whole new world now where the allopathic conventional doctors like me are going to learn from the naturopathic doctors.

And we will work together for success, as we did in this patient.

And this was early, early on. So you do have an open mind for that. Because a lot of people think that MDs don't. They think they're God in their white robes or something. But anyways, to the credit of that, you mentioned it some years ago to me.

I remember the conversation we had on it, by the way. So anyways, we embrace that as well. on the network. We have a lot of great natural healers here. And I love it.

I love building that back and forth, the science on it. And some of the stuff I've been learning is incredible. And it does help your life. It improves it greatly. All right.

With all that said, now, this is really, really good. First of all, today is Q&A 122.. 122.. And still ticking, just like that pink rabbit with the Energizer batteries, Dr. McCullough.

That's the still ticking. Q&A 122, we're going to dive into. But I want to get into a particular topic now with you that I don't know much about at all. But I definitely want to bring it out. And there's some questions about it.

So let me get it out there now. And then we'll bridge and get into other types of questions. I have to hear. This first one's from Taylor. What is this business about?

injecting siRNA to destroy the COVID mRNA? It doesn't sound prudent to be injecting more garbage into people. Tell us about this.

That's a rote question quote.

Well, if the entire strand is read, then a full spike protein is made. Now, a small interfering messenger RNA is really just a few nucleotides of messenger RNA that will bind to the strand, the tail of Pfizer-Moderna. And then, when it hits the ribosome, it'll be shut down. Cannot produce the protein. And this is now used in medicine.

I, you know, there's two of them that I can use in my practice. One's called Inclinziran, which is a small interfering messenger RNA for the production of what's called PCSK9, proprotein convertase, subtilisin, kexin 9.. That's part of cholesterol metabolism. And so I can, you know, prescribe this small interfering RNA. It lasts in the body two or three days.

It binds up the kind of bad messenger RNA in the body. And the bad protein can't be produced.

We use these small interfering RNAs. They're not like Pfizer-Moderna at all. And they do work. So, the concept is, and Nick Holscher, McCullough Foundation follow, came up with this with Diane Marotta, who's a PhD. And the paper is now at nearly completely fully peer reviewed and to be published.

Very exciting. We've had a couple discussions with companies on this, about making these little small nucleotide fragments to be able to literally be able to neutralize Pfizer and Moderna. And companies are very excited. now. We got to get them excited on the side of helping people get better as opposed to piling on more dangerous messenger RNA.

that's gone wrong. That's what's new and innovative. And people want to be able to have simplistic thoughts, like all, messenger RNA is bad.

So, this other one is from Carrie. I was hoping there would be a rebuttal to a substack about Dr. McCullough that they sent with the link in the post. I'm sure he has his sheer haters, as we all do. But they bring up some valid points.

I hope Dr. McCullough can dispute about monetary gain. And what they're saying, now, let me get this out here. The siRNA is basically miniature RNA, they're saying. It is the biological equivalent of mRNA dust.

I want to do this in pieces. Speak about that first, what they say. The siRNA is basically miniature mRNA, and it's the biological equivalent of mRNA dust. Speak about that.

It's not that.

But then they say, and they go on to say, promoting the same company, Arbitis, it is, I guess, that caused DNA damage. As a cure for DNA damage is very suspicious. What do you say to that?

But let me tell you, in this space, the vast majority of new knowledge comes out from companies. It's not coming out of academic medical centers. So, we do rely on the companies to help move the field forward, and it's fair to cite them.

And then go on a show like yours and have a show. It's typically too hard to do everything. And so, many of these media doctors, they actually don't see patients. Many of them opining on COVID have never seen a COVID patient like Anthony Fauci. And most of the doctors that came on Fox News and CNN.

And more that are in my genre that can do it will help greatly. Because we're just not getting the manpower from academic medical centers to do it.

But they've become suspicious of following the money, using that term, follow the money. And this guy, Kerry, this listener here, he goes on to end it and says, there might be very big money behind this controlled opposition. He said there might be. You just said this is even just a paper at this point. It's not, nobody's picked it up to do anything with it.

But that the medical part of this is very sound and effective. Yet, see, if we don't talk about this stuff, what fills the space is conspiracy theories. And this is what I'm getting out of this. Is that a fair statement?

Healthcare is the number one employer of single mothers.

So we have to look at this and understand there's some money there. People say, well, I want the greatest, richest content platforms all over the internet and on my phone, but they need to be free of any revenue. Well, that'd be like you running the platform, Malcolm, and you don't take a penny of advertising revenue.

I was the chief academic scientific officer for Ascension, a big Catholic health system. And I always remember the nuns saying, listen, no margin, no mission. And they said, listen, you've got to make some money to carry out your mission. So anybody listening to this, don't get all worked up if money is flowing. Half the people who tell me, oh boy, I don't like the fact that the wellness company is making money or what have you.

They'll turn around and ask me, say, hey, is there any jobs in the wellness company I could have? So it's like, wait a minute. I thought you were, you know what I mean?

And if you're working with the right people in life and that sort of thing, then you have to have trust. Now, for you, you are a marvel. And I'll speak from that standpoint. And you are beloved. And we see that every day with listeners and our people, our audience.

I mean, you are beloved. And then there are those that want to make sure they keep you honest kind of thing. But that's a fair thing. People can be critical, right? We don't mind taking that stuff on, right?

I mean, it is what it is.

I mean, that's part of academic life. It's all disclosed on what's called CMS, open payments. And so every academic doctor out there has an annual CM. And I can't control it. That pharmaceutical companies list all the grants.

They list all the things. And if a doctor has a supervisory role, which I did at an academic institution, all the subordinates roll up to him. So that money gets put there too. So there's always a dollar value attached to an academic doctor. You can go to CMS open payments and take a look at it.

Okay. And then you can see what happened through COVID. So I had my grant revenue. I had everything that went to the institution. And then with the COVID, it went to like zero.

It just went, it got gutted. So you could see a number of half a million dollars go annually be gutted. And it's like, well, yeah, that's it. That's great documentation of financially what happened during the pandemic. There are some people who have lost their business.

But none of us are out there getting rich off each other. Right, right. At this stage, Malcolm.

I've done more media with Dr. McCullough than anybody on the planet. OK, we've done more media, he and I have, than any other two people at this point in time, with all of the shows and programming we've done. And not for one moment have I ever questioned his honorability, his integrity and what he brings to any part of the conversation. Even, and I'm talking when we're off mic, all of those times when we're talking personal back and forth, he has never been willing to sell out anything, nor am I, period, end, stop.

And he has never once flinched on that point, never pushed anything, never pushed the wellness card, never jammed, never. I've not seen it for one second. And that's a fact, Dr. McCullough. So there you go, right?

So, on that point, and that is just a fact. So anytime you need somebody to defend that point, have them, call me and be happy to fill them in. But I've seen it up close and personal here. Now, OK, Q&A 122 and all of that, that's going to be good. And we'll talk, we're going to get into some questions here and all.

And then I've got a, I want to tell you, I've got a special guest coming up next week. We're going to have on Tim James. I mentioned his name a couple of times to you with the gut problems I was having. And he was highly recommended to me from nurse Jody O'Malley. So she'd been working with him a while, really liked him.

And he is, talk about authentic. We like authentic people. He's another authentic dude, for sure, man. And that's what I like about him. He just lets it rip the way he is.

But anyways, I've been taking this gut bundle, the three products. And let me tell you, I've tried different things over the years because I've always had a tricky gut problem. And it's actually been a pain, at times, a real bad pain. My wife can tell you how many times I've had to lay down on the bed horizontal to put pressure on my gut because I had bad circumstances and pain in my gut. Now, it's been throughout many years for me, decades.

And I've always had challenges with it. But, you know, I don't cry about it. I'm not a whiner. I dealt with it and just try to move forward with it and always trying to find something to fix it. Never have I found something that, and not that I was actively looking out there for everything.

Yeah, there's so, in all fairness, here. But when I started talking to Tim and he had this gut bundle of products, I jumped in and I took it.

He had interest in putting the products on the network. And we get a lot of people, friends, who come in here who want to put products on the network. And I don't put just any product on the network. We vet them all. We take them all.

And we don't take a lot of products. I'm not going to tell you which ones we didn't take. But there are a lot of products, you know, out there we did not accept on this network. And that is the God's honest truth. All right.

You talk about money. Had nothing to do with money. It had to do with results for our audience. And it had to do with results ourselves and just making the right decision. that felt right for us.

And that's the truth. That's the God's honest truth. Now, when I started taking these three, so I said to Tim, I said, I got to take these products myself and see. And whatever, man, let me take them and see. And I'll let you know if there's anything.

And, you know, I thought maybe there's a 50-50 chance. I had no idea. And friends, I took them and I took them for about a month, about three, four weeks. It was right between three, four-week mark. And let me tell you what, right at the two-week mark, I knew pretty quick, I've never taken anything this effective, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever in my life.

Get a load of this, Dr. McCollum. Remember, we used to talk about coffee all the time. I don't have coffee at 7, 8 in the morning anymore. I don't need it to wake me up.

I'm not dependent on anything. I'm not, I don't, like. people get coffee, like they gotta have it. I don't need to have anything, really. And so, but I don't have it anymore in the morning.

And you kind of can't do it with this. You need to be not having stuff in your system. All right, so the gut detox formula, real fast. This is a 5,000-year-old blend of raw herbs, and they gently micro-cleanse the intestinal tract, the hair-like structures coming through the intestines, and of the six and a half pounds of accumulated fecal material that we have in our bodies, and that create pathogen.

So, Malcolm, I mean, you sent me the products. They're sitting on my countertop. I've been looking at them every day.

I can't be doing that stuff. I mean, come on. You know, I'm too busy. And you're too busy. Can you imagine leaving a patient in the room?

I'll be right back, sir.

abdominal cramping or bloating?

I had it for a lot of years, and I learned to live with it. And so it was—sometimes it was not good, and it was uncomfortable, especially in the mornings. Now, like this morning, I took everything this morning, and then I had some coffee around about late, late morning, about 11.. I'm not in a hurry. And I like fasting anyways, fasting in the mornings.

It's actually the best thing for you, I think, cramming all that crap into you. Fast, fast, the intermittent fasting, I think, is a real winner. So I kind of don't—I don't eat, like, snack all night. I don't snack anything after dinnertime. You leave it alone.

The only thing that you can have a little bit after dinner, a handful of nuts are good for you, and I do take those. Anyways, so you take the gut detox. You take the nanosilver. Take a couple of swigs of that out of the bottle. Don't eat while you're doing the gut detox formula.

Take three capsules in the morning. And then, for the first two weeks, Peter, make sure you take three at night as well. But don't eat 30 minutes around it. 30 minutes around the gut detox formula. But take three at night as well for the first two weeks to detox and cleanse your system properly.

Yeah, and then so you take a swig right out of the bottle. You can take two, like, what do they say? Tablespoons, I think, or something. I've got a thing down here, too. I don't take the teaspoons.

I just take a swig out of the bottle and be done with it, out of the nanosilver. And that's a breakthrough triple-action silver solution that eradicates the pathogenic organisms in the gut and throughout the body. And the benefits of this are amazing. So that's that. And then the green 85 juice formula is kick-ass amazing, man.

I don't know. Take eight, 10 ounces. They say take more than that, but I do. eight, 10 ounces is enough. I don't want to swim out of the room after all.

And I put the green stuff in that clean water and drink the water. And it doesn't taste bad. It doesn't taste good. It just is.

It looks like green water, but it don't taste like anything. It doesn't taste bad. It doesn't taste good. It just is green water. What can I say?

Do it all at once. Feel good. Don't eat or drink anything, at least for that half hour. But I don't do it for multiple hours. I don't have coffee again until late morning.

I don't eat big lunches or any of that stuff. I have dinner when Dee and I have dinner. She's a great chef. I mean, she can make the dinner to knock anybody's socks off.

In fact, one time, I got to have you over, one time to have Dee's cook. And she's amazing. She can put together, I mean, she's been able to entertain about anybody I could bring. I could bring in heads of state that she could put on a spread. Now, she won't want me saying this, but she does do amazing.

She's really, really good. She's the ultimate host and person and just amazing woman. So, anyways, enough of that. That's the gut detox. So everybody, now you heard me.

And I'm just speaking from real life here. This is all I can speak from is my own experience. And the stuff is absolutely amazing. We're going to have Tim on next week, Dr. McCullough and I, so we can talk about a little bit and see what we think.

I really like this guy. I want to do some other things with him. I think Peter will be really impressed with him as well. Dr. McCullough will like this guy a lot as well.

It's just something about him. I don't know. It's hard to explain. But anyways, I'll let you guys be the judge.

You have better benefits through your entire body because of the way this thing interacts. And we'll talk to him more about that next week, actually. The benefits of that. There's so much more to this. But try it for the next week, Dr.

McCullough. See what you think. And it's all good.

I'm really telling you the truth here with all of it. By the way, if you don't want to put that stuff with water, you can put it with unsweetened cranberry juice, he says here. Oh no, that's the green. Yeah, the green 85.. You can put it with the unsweetened cranberry juice or a smoothie.

But I just take it with the water. It's so easy.

My wife's the same way. Does it taste good? What else does that mean? Does it taste good? I mean, you'd rather have surgery on your body?

I mean, come on, just take it. I've got to get her to stop taking it. If I can get her to take it, it'll be a miracle.

Really? Because that's what it did for me. I mean, and you just know your body is doing some good stuff for you with everything in that. And I feel great. I haven't eaten anything today, nothing.

So we're at this hour of the day and I've eaten nothing. And I'm going to have dinner in just moments here as we exit the show. And I'm not even going to take a break today. By the way, the code on this is going to be at the end of the show. Let's go to the end of the show.

And you'll hear the spot on this from Tim James, who does the spot himself. He's got a very interesting voice. You'll hear it. Use the code OUTLOUD. Just go to americoutloud.shop.

Click on the Malcolm's. He called it after me, Malcolm's Healthy Gut Bundle, which was hysterical. He wanted to put my face on there, a headshot and all that. And I said, no, just put the product. They don't need to see my face.

Come on. And he said, I want to call it Malcolm's because you talk so well about it. I said, so. he twisted my arm for that. That wasn't me, by the way.

That was him. That was him. But he wanted my headshot all on it as well. I talked him out of it. All right.

Let's get a couple other questions in here while we have a few minutes, please. Now that we've run out of time here. This one here is from Nydia. Can you give us a list of studies that show that children who have had no shots are turning out to be the healthiest, and perhaps a couple of good ones that proved to a pediatrician that the need for these vaccines is highly questionable at this point, that they may pose dangers. Anything you want to say to Nydia?

Now, the proviso here is a normal child, a normal child going natural. Five studies show, and it's summarized by Hooker, that they do better. They do better over time, Malcolm. They have less childhood illnesses, less need for antibiotics, tympanostomy tubes, less neuropsychiatric disorders like attention deficit disorder, autism spectrum, Asperger's, less food allergies. I mean, it goes on and on and on.

So people have said, well, it's selection bias. The parents are selecting their healthy kids not to get vaccines. Well, that could be the case. But still, in the end, you just want a healthier child.

And so I think this is an important observation. Largely, this work has been the basis for the World Council for Health in September of 2023 to put out the recommendations, telling parents, listen, it's safer to wait right now. Don't jump into a battery of vaccines for your children. You know, we don't have the heavy threats of smallpox and polio and the diseases of yesteryear, largely because we have improved water, sanitation and more cleanly, you know, bedclothes and living conditions.

Is there any need anymore to take ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or baby aspirin to prevent blood clotting? I'm doing all three, but is blood clotting still an issue with these later variants? What about detoxing with spike support afterwards? What do you think?

And that's typically 81 milligrams a day, or even up to 325 milligrams a day, out to about 90 days. And then the detoxification, again, is needed because there's been this installation of the spike protein.

But we reserve it. I saw a patient today. I'll give you an example, a real-life patient. He's in his 40s. He has a lymphoma.

There's a cancer of his lymph nodes. And he's in remission right now. He's doing great. But he's easily on his third or fourth case of COVID. Didn't take the vaccine.

Third or fourth case of COVID. He still doesn't feel well. I examined him. His right lung is, you know, he's got some pulmonary findings, bags under his eyes, what have you. And initially, he went with no ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.

I think he was out of town or I was out of town. We just couldn't link up the pharmacy. And so now here he is. I want to say he's probably about a week or two into it now. And so I put him on ivermectin.

And I put him on doxycycline and, you know, more fully outfitted him with the McCullough protocol to get him through it. So each person is different. I think it's still great if everybody has an emergency kit at home, wellness company, black emergency kit. So you have your hydroxychloroquine. You have your ivermectin.

You have your azithromycin. It would save a lot of extra follow-up visits to urgent care and otherwise. And keep them in reserve. Treat if there's severe symptoms or persistence.

By the way, talking about pharmacies, real fast. Dr. Nurse Jody O'Malley did a show this week how the government weaponized the pharmacist. It just went live on the feed. It's really good.

She's got two pharmacists on there. And they're talking about it. It's right in the news feed. Please share that out there, everybody, too, to wake people up. It's in the news feed at americareoutloud.news.

It's phenomenal. It's really, really good stuff. She's working so hard. The nurses are doing great stuff. All right, let me get this last one in here from Buster.

This has been asked before. Is everyone vaccinated at risk of these fibrous clots and myocarditis?

Personal or family history of heart disease, that's a risk feature. So we have to risk stratify because we can't be worried about everybody. It's about 5% to 10% of people who fall into those buckets.

Go back and listen to the beginning. if you missed all the dialogue we had on the new medical journal, Let's Healthier, and also on the SIRNA. Very interesting conversations on that. Remember, next week, Tim James will be on as well, on the gut, chemical body, freak chemical body, or body chemical free, something like that. Anyways, take a look at that.

And that's it. Oh, you'll hear the spots right after this thing. You'll hear the message for that product, the gut spike detox, and also, with the wellness, with the kits and all. You can. take a look at that.

Thank you for joining us here on America. Out Loud Pulse. Always a beat ahead.

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