I’m Engaged [VIDEO]

2023-04-26 01:01:32

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1Speaker 1
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, we call her daddy.

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Holy shit daddy gang, we have so much to discuss today. You saw the title, and the title is real, I'm engaged.

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I know, I know I'm a little shocked, too. I will say so myself. Even coming on here, I will be real with you in the five years now that I've been doing.

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Call her daddy. When I started the show, I never fucking in my wildest dreams. I don't even know if it was dreams or my nightmares. I don't know what it was. But back then, I never fucking thought that I would be sitting here. One probably even telling you I was in a healthy relationship and two now being engaged. It's not clickbait, it's real. I have a fucking ring on my finger, I still can't really get used to it.

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There's a lot going on. I bet you guys are like, Hey Al, so happy for you, what the fuck bitch? The last thing I would have expected is you to tell us you were engaged. You guys were probably expecting me to break up with him before us get engaged. And I realized that because I kind of haven't talked to you about my relationship for a really long time.

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I think the last life update I did was like, we lived together, we bought a house together. And even then you all were like, huh, you bought a fucking house with a man that you're not married to? So let's get into it because I realize I owe you an explanation, a big, big, big explanation. The first explanation is, who am I engaged to? Who is this man?

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Who is the man that took me off the market? Who is the man that gets the gluck luck for the rest of his life? Yeah, you're lucky, bitch.

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I always refer to him, I always have little nicknames for all my past lovers. Slim, shady, door number three, the Canadian. They come and go. This one, apparently is going to last, I hope, forever. Fifty percent of marriages do end in divorce, so let's just keep going.

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I'm already fucking cursing myself before I get married. I call him Mr. Sexy Zoom man, and again, it's Zoom, as in the video chat, not Zoo. He doesn't work at the zoo, although that would be an incredible job, Zoom man.

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But let's start with the basics. What is his real name? because I'm going to just tell you, fucking everything, his name.

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Is Matt Kaplan? So I'm going to just start calling him Matt, Hi, Matt, Matt is my fiance. And I want to now tell you guys some of the fun stuff, like how he proposed.

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So how did Matt propose? He proposed on a Friday and just to give you guys, I know you guys are going to be pissed at me, but he proposed over a month and a half ago. And so I have been keeping this to myself for a month and a half. Which was truly so fun. And I'm so happy that I kept it for myself and just my family and my friends. But then, after a week, I was starting to twitch. Because I've been doing interviews, not being able to wear the ring. And people are asking me about my relationship. And I just have been like, I need to fucking tell the daddy gang. So he did it on a Friday.

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He left early in the morning. He usually brings me coffee every single morning we'll come in. He's very romantic and sweet and cute. He didn't bring me coffee that day and I was like, What the fuck?

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I texted him, he's like, Sorry, I had an early meeting, I had to go, Babe, love, you have a great day.

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Whatever, I'm like, great, I'll see you tonight, let's have a wine night and just chill. Little did I fucking know.

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I go to my studio and I have a photo shoot for W Magazine, and I was told this photo shoot was going to be for a piece in W Magazine. And we just have to take a bunch of pictures. So I show up and there's outfits galore and all of a sudden this person shows up. And they're doing my hair, my makeup, and they're like, we have to do your nails. I don't think anything of it, my nails are always disgusting. I have these press-ons.

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You'll probably see one fall off at some point. Today. I'm getting the full pampered treatment, but again, I'm about to do a photo shoot, so I'm not thinking anything of it. I start doing this photo shoot and little did I know this was a fake photo shoot.

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Matt and Kate Bailey, who is my publicist that you guys have seen in the Milan episode, conspired. And they were like, how the fuck are we going to get Alex to look presentable for these engagement photos? Especially on a Friday? I know I'm staying with Matt, I'm going to do no makeup, hair in a bun. Disgusting Bo. You could not see me look worse than when. I know I'm just going to be chilling with my boyfriend on a Friday night.

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So they're like, how do we get her to look good? Fake a photo shoot number one? So I go into this photo shoot, I get all my makeup done. We're going through the photo shoot and then all of a sudden it's starting to get kind of late.

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I will say I sense some desperation from one of the publicists there being like, let's do another look and another look. I kept being like, I just kind of want to go home. Don't you think we've had enough? Also, the direction of the photo shoot made no fucking sense. I've been honest with you guys.

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I really don't like photo shoots. It's my one thing that I'm very insecure. Well, I have a lot of insecurities, but that's one thing. in work wise, I'm like, I'm not good at photo shoots.

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So immediately I'm like, there's no creative direction. Why am I doing this photo shoot? None of it really made sense. Of course, it didn't make sense. it was a fake fucking photo shoot.

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So then they were buying time and I didn't know this. They're like, let's do one last look. We need you to be holding a prop. So I'm like, it's Friday, I'm going to fucking light a joint and have that be my prop in the photo.

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Let's get fucking lit, I'm just going to be high so I start smoking. In this photo, photographer didn't know I was getting engaged that night, but my publicist did, and she's being such a fucking narc.

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She's like, give me the joint, stop smoking, and I'm like, it's good for the photo. I'm getting high as fuck. And she, in her mind, is like, You're about to get engaged, bitch.

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And I refuse to let you show up high out of your fucking mind when he proposes. But I didn't know. I'm like, it's Friday, She's like, I don't want you to drive high, I'm like, I'll just chill here.

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Then I'll go home, Matt doesn't give a fuck. Meanwhile, they wanted to do it perfectly at 530 sunset. The whole thing, so I'm getting high. She finally rips out and she's like, Oh, sorry.

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I lost it, it's whatever I stopped smoking. Finally, the photo shoot ends and I'm trying to rush everyone out the door. Everyone's like being so fucking slow.

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I'm like, let's go, people, don't you want to enjoy your Friday night? Clearly not. I get in the car finally, and I text Matt before I start leaving.

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I'm like, what time are you going to be home? He's like, 530? I'm like, perfect, I'll be home at like, 520. Let's open that bottle of wine.

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And he's like, Can't wait, can't wait. And finally, I get home and I drive up and Matt's car is not there, so I'm like, I'm home first. Great.

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I go in through our laundry room, I'm holding like a water bottle, my keys, my phone. Like, I have like my hair in my mouth, because it's stuck in my lip gloss. Like, just not thinking anything of it. And I opened the door and all of a sudden there are candles everywhere.

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And there is a laptop sitting with a sign that says, Play me.

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And Adele is playing all throughout our house.

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Now you might think, in that moment, I was like, I'm getting engaged, I sweared to you, daddy gang, I didn't. Something had recently happened, I was convinced Spotify was sending Matt and I condolences for something personal that had happened.

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And I thought they were like, Spotify is great to me, so they'll always send like flowers or whatever. So I walk in and my first thought was like, Oh wow, Spotify is being so cute, oh my god.

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Like, they sent, like, I should wait for Matt to like, see, whatever this is, and then 10 seconds in, I'm like, but why is there a card and a fucking computer that says, Play me, what the fuck is the computer doing here?

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So I say, Oh, fuck Matt, I'm just going to play it and see what's happening, and I press play on the computer, and it's Matt.

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And it's a video of him in the same exact outfit that he wore on our first Zoom meeting. He had like the bandana for Covid for his mask, he had, like his outfit on. It was spitting image of what I looked at when I first met him on a Zoom meeting.

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And my heart dropped into my ass.

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A part of me was like, not still registering what was about to happen, and this sounds like, I'll be honest with you guys.

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Matt is, I was going to say, one of the most. That Retract is the most romantic person that I have ever met in my life. Like, I feel so blessed. I'll come home some nights and it's like flowers and candles, and like, just like wine nights. And him being so thoughtful. So I'm not saying. I thought this was just about to be another beautiful night that Matt put together, but my mind did kind of go to. Like. We had been going through a lot of personal stuff that I'm like, maybe he's just trying to reset the mood, like, let's have a good week.

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I was trying to think of everything except for Am I getting engaged? Because I will say I was in a little bit of shock and just trying to be like, is this actually happening? is this actually happening? And I'm not going to tell you guys all the details. But he basically talks for like two and a half, three minutes about our relationship. And is basically saying like, Alex, you are the love of my life and I can't imagine my life without you. And we've been through so much.

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You make me a better person, like he does this whole thing, and at the end he's like. But I feel like there's one thing missing and I'm hoping that you can help me figure it out. So look down and there is a card and I want you to follow the card. So then the video stops. And all of a sudden now I'm like, I think I know what's happening, but I'm still, like, in denial.

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I'm like, what's going on? And then I see from the fucking corners of Like, the darkness. Aaron, who is my videographer, comes like, into the corner with a camera. And I literally am like, what the fuck is going on? And he's like, I don't fucking know. We literally started working together like a week before this happens.

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He's like, shaking, he's like, I don't know, I don't know, open the fucking card, so I'm like, Okay, here we go.

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So he's filming me. I open the card and at this point I know what's happening. But I'm still in shock. And I'm just like, again, guys, I thought I was coming home to a wine night like, I'm not expecting this at this point.

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Cause we'd been going through a lot emotionally that I'm like, it's not going to happen tonight. I opened the card and it is a full fucking scavenger hunt. And it takes me to, like, go to the place in our house where we. And then it would be something really cute that, like, you guys, don't need to know the details, but it was like a cute thing. So I immediately like the kitchen, I go up to the kitchen.

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And the first part of the kitchen is over, like 25 photos framed of our first. I'm going to pass out.

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I literally don't know what to think. The first time we ever went to Hawaii together, the first time we went to Santa Barbara together, the first time we got our dog Bruce together, the first time that we had sex together.

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And kind of an interesting photo of that day, like every single first we ever did. He framed, or if he didn't have a photo of us, he framed the memory of the ticket or something. It's all first in the kitchen. So now I'm like, I'm going to fucking die. And so Adele is blaring through our house.

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Then I open the next scavenger hunt, I go to another room. It's all of my favorite foods, pizza, cheetos, like all of the food all over. And then pictures of us at places that we love to eat, and dinners that we will, like, remember forever. And like a dinner that he told me, like, he loved me for the first time, like, all this crazy shit.

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And it was room by room, by room, and the entire house was filled with these huge candles everywhere. And finally, the last card took me to my closet and he laid out my engagement outfit. And this is why I love this man. It wasn't heels.

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It wasn't a dress, it was my unwell sweats with a card that said, Put these on, it's chilly outside and meet me by the Buddha.

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I need to clarify this, guys. There's a Buddha in our house, We bought this house, and there's this giant, giant, like 500 pound buddha. That we felt would be really bad luck if we move it from our house, like, I feel like that's just awful luck, like, get rid of the Buddha.

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And then, like, our life just changes forever, and like, nothing goes right ever since. We leave the Buddha out of our house, so we kept the Buddha. So when you see these photos, guys, just know I'm not Buddhist, maybe one day, you never know.

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But I'm not Buddhist, and there's no sentimental value to this Buddha. It just happens to be there. But we have this area that we've kind of made this like courtyard area near the Buddha. It's a really relaxing area, sometimes we'll have coffee in the morning there together.

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And it says, go to the place where we like, meditate, relax and like, whatever. And I knew exactly where he was, he was with the fucking Buddha. So this is like a long trail to get there and I have to go down these steps and through these trees.

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And I look down still, Adele, blaring candles lit on every single step.

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And he was standing underneath the canopy, with roses everywhere, candles everywhere, and Henry and Bruce are dogs in little bow ties. And at this point, I'm like, I am going to throw up, like, what, like, I needed to just get to Matt.

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That's what everyone said. It's like we thought it would take you like 15 minutes to get through the house. I was like running through each thing of, like, I just want to get to Matt, I just want to get to Matt. And I see Matt and I'm like, at the top of the stairs and he's like, Hi, baby.

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And I'm like, and he's like, he's holding the fucking box and I'm like, fuck. And so I just like, run down the stairs. I go to him, he doesn't say anything.

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He just gets on one knee and he says, Make me the happiest man in the world. I love you so much. I can't imagine my life without you. You're my person, you're my best friend.

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You're my soulmate, you're the best sex I've ever had and you mean everything to me in this world. Please marry me. I love you.

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And I don't even think I said, yes, actually, now that I'm thinking about it. I was like, What? And I'm just like, freaking out at him. And finally, I finally calmed down. And I look at him and I'm like, Absolutely, he puts the ring on my finger and we're both sobbing.

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We're just like, hysterical Henry and Bruce come up to us, we just start kissing all the good things. And it was like, truly the best, best moment of my life. It was such an incredible moment that I think I never pictured how this would happen.

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I've never really like thought of this from a young age, like how I would want it to go down. And I will say, Matt is so creative and thoughtful. And he knew I wanted it to be private, but I also had told him which we'll get into. I told him he was allowed to do this, that will come later on, but I told him, just make it our own, but make it private.

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It couldn't have been more perfect. So we cheers champagne and we go upstairs, music is playing, we're having fun, we're cheersing.

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We're doing all the things and he said, Okay, go pack a bag. We're going to stay at the Bel Air tonight, which is a hotel in L.A. and we are going to go to this dinner at the four seasons. First, though, that someone told me is like, amazing.

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We're gonna have this private chef and we're going to go to a dinner the two of us. And I'm like, Oh my fucking god, this is perfect. I need to call my parents, though, and he's like, you can call them later, like, let's just. I'm like, No, no, no.

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I have to call my parents so I facetime my parents and they're in bed and they're in bed together. And it's like, it's like, late in my mind in Pennsylvania, and I'm like, mom and dad, like, I'm engaged. My parents look shocked.

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They're like, What the fuck like Alex? We're so happy for you, Matt, we love you. And I'm facetiming them and I'm like, Should I call my siblings?

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And they're like, just go have a good night, call them tomorrow, and I'm like, Okay, I love you guys. Finally, we've cried, we've drank a bunch of champagne. He's like, we're going to go to the Bel Air.

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And I'm just excited to go have dinner alone and like, honestly, just talk to him about, like, how did you do this? How long have you known, like, what was the set like? I'm just ready to just like, be alone with him and sitting in this room and like, grow him.

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So we're in the car. I'm in shock. And we roll up to the four seasons, which is where we were going to get dinner. And I'm walking, holding his hand, just like looking at him, looking at him, talking.

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And I turned the corner. And there's one more surprise.

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Matt had flown in my entire family, all of my best friends from childhood, and his entire family were standing there in the room. We were about to have dinner and it was a huge fucking party and he surprised me one more fucking time. I'm like, no more fucking surprises.

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My parents, when I thought they were in bed in Pennsylvania, they ran upstairs to their hotel room. Cause they're like, I bet she's going to call us, my poor parents, everyone's like, she's not going to call you.

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My parents were like, Well, we want to be prepared. If she calls us, I think we can just prop these pillows up more and she'll never know.

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I call my parents, thank God, they were like they my dad put on a pajama top, my mom got under the covers. In the four seasons in California, I little did I know. I thought they were in Pennsylvania and they're like, Congrats, Alex.

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They rip off the sheets they put on their party outfits, and everyone went downstairs and we partied. I had no idea anyone was in town.

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They had been in town since Wednesday. My parents went, picked up the ring with Matt, my best friends had been there like everyone was in town. And it was truly the most like, memorable, loving experience that I've ever, ever had in my life, and it was.

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It was perfect and I will remember it for the rest of my life.

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Matt's here, Come you can come in. Hey, I'm recording the engagement episode. Oh wow.

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Okay, I gave them your identity. I said, it's not Coplin, get ready.

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Daddy Gang knows you can't fuck it up now. Bye love you.

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Woo, okay, I'm really happy that I got that off my chest. I feel like I just had a therapy session because I was feeling a little bogged down from not telling you guys about that. I was feeling really weighted and now I feel like a weight has been lifted off my chest.

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The daddy gang knows that I'm engaged, that's all that matters. What?

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Lauren If you're only listening to this in video, Lauren is raising her hand. Lauren's been here the whole time of this episode, Lauren's raising her hand in the corner.

2Speaker 2
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Can I help you, sweetie? I just think I have a lot to contribute here, I have a lot of thoughts.

1Speaker 1
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Like, about your engagement, I was gonna say, you're reminding me of the type of person that's like, Does anybody object? Lauren's like, I object you? You want to talk about my engagement?

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, I was a huge part of it. Let's go. I thought you'd never ask, Oh.

1Speaker 1
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Okay, we've to get you a chair. Wait, maybe we should move. You actually want to come on? literally asked you this morning if you wanted to come on, and you're like, No, no, no.

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Like Alex.

2Speaker 2
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This is about you. Well, I needed to, like, add some things into the story here, right? She's.

1Speaker 1
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Feeling a little more comfortable as she's like, you go do it and maybe I'll pop in now you want to. We cannot film this like this. Let's move the room.

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Let's put the two chairs back in, like normal. Oh, and then I'll sit there and you'll sit there. Well, no, that's where I sit. Well, I have a few thoughts.

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Did you write interview questions? Yeah, go.

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Lauren.

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Only Lauren.

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Okay, here we go. This is so uneven. People probably think we have, like people that do this for us. No, it's just us.

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This is really fucking heavy.

2Speaker 2
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Eight men delivered, eight men delivered this. Okay, stand up and get some like leverage. I feel like that's like your thing.

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Let's go.

1Speaker 1
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No, Lauren, you have to go, we have to shimmy, you have to go this way and then I'll go this way, you shimmy that way, yeah.

2Speaker 2
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Two hours later, you know what I was about to say, what like sitting in the seat with, like the cards I have, like butterflies in my stomach.

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Like, imagine if there was someone actually famous?

1Speaker 1
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In front of me, No, I swear, isn't it weird? It looks like kind of chill, but when you're actually in this room and there's all these lights, it's like, it's intimidating, yeah.

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I feel like I'm.

2Speaker 2
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Like, my cool house is going to go, Are you ready? Are you ready? Alex Cooper? Welcome to call her daddy.

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Am I supposed to say, thank you for having me? Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you for having me on the show. Let's get into it, so let's go back to your childhood.

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How did the wounding of your inner child that resulted from years of intense bullying impact the relationships you were unconsciously drawn through throughout your life?

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You're such a dick, I love it, it's like.

1Speaker 1
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Call her daddy. What happened in your childhood? Let's go from the beginning. Who fucked you up?

2Speaker 2
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Why are you the way you are? When I was writing that, I was like, How many like words can I put?

1Speaker 1
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Into one sentence, child wounding. I love it. No, yeah.

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Um, thank you for having me here today, and I will not be answering that question now. later you will, you're interviewing me, I am watching.

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I'm going to start interviewing you. I'm like, you can't even don't even try, Lauren.

2Speaker 2
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So I know that your engagement was stressful for you in the moment of, like, having no idea it was happening, but you have no idea how stressful it was for me. Yeah, I'm like.

1Speaker 1
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Let's talk about what you were going through. No, but actually, yeah, so Matt texted me.

2Speaker 2
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He only gave me a week notice, so Matt texted me a week before and he texted me and was just like, Lauren. Secret convo and I was like, What the fuck like the secret convo mean? Like, I can't think of anything else it would mean besides an engagement.

00:24:49.28 – 00:25:15.52

But mind you, the last time, like, I had spoken to you about marriage, like we hadn't talked. We don't talk about it often, but like the last time we talked about it, probably like six months prior. You were like, still little like on the fence. And then we've talked about it a year prior. And you were like, No, I'm not getting married, like, I don't believe in marriage. So you were startled. I was like, like, what's going like, is he about to tell me he's proposing? But does Alex even want to get married?

00:25:15.56 – 00:25:28.64

So I call him and like, while I'm on the phone with him, I'm literally like, wait, Matt. Like, not to be like an asshole. But like, have you talked to her about marriage? Like, is she going to say yes? and he's like, No, no, no, like, don't worry, we like, she's going to say yes.

00:25:28.68 – 00:25:37.70

I was like, Okay, phew, like I could take a breath knowing that, like, you weren't going to be like, blindsided. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like, do I need to, like, have some like one off?

00:25:37.80 – 00:25:51.92

Like, So, like, what are your views on marriage these days? So to top it all off, like you were in Milan for Fashion Week the week prior to getting engaged. And Matt was like, I have to do it now. Like, I can never pull off a surprise with Alex, like she's too in the know with anything.

00:25:52.08 – 00:26:09.44

Like, if I have any chance of pulling this off, it's going to be like setting everything off while she's in Milan. And I was like, Okay, like that makes sense, but you're come back from Milan and you're like texting me, we're like calling each other, and you're like. I've literally never been more tired in my entire life. Like, I don't even want to work this week.

00:26:09.50 – 00:26:25.46

I literally cannot wait for the weekend. Just to, like, take a gummy, not leave my house and like, not leave my bed. And I'm like, Oh, okay, cool, like little. Do you know that, like, all of your family and friends are like, about to surprise you and you're about to be engaged? So I'm like, is she going to say yes? is she going to be happy that all of us are in town?

00:26:25.56 – 00:26:33.06

Like, this is like a shot in the dark. House is going to go okay now. Hearing it from your perspective, that's very stressful. Trust me. I like, like.

00:26:33.06 – 00:26:49.68

I was like, talking to my boyfriend and he was like, Do you think she was like, I'm like? She has negative, like in all history of engagements, like this woman has negative idea that she's about to be proposed to. So, we're Friday, I'm in L.A. This is the day of your engagement and I'm in L.A.

00:26:49.98 – 00:27:01.76

Matt was an angel. And like, put us all at the same hotel. Um, it's like, me, Kristen, Jackie, your mom, like, we're all at the hotel, we go and have lunch together. And your mom's like, I went and picked out the ring. The ring is beautiful.

00:27:02.22 – 00:27:19.20

She's like, Is Alex going to say yes? and I'm like, I hope so. Like, we're just in the dark, cause like you were, we're going to get there. But like you were having conversations with Matt and like, we didn't know about, um, so we were just like, we're here.

00:27:19.62 – 00:27:26.78

And if she runs out screaming and it's a blowout, like, we're here for that, too. Like, you never know what you're going to get with Alex Cooper.

00:27:28.42 – 00:27:42.34

So it's like, engagement time and like, none of no one has your location. So like we like, didn't really like, know to like, know when to expect you, and like. I was so anxious and nervous that I didn't eat lunch because I was like, what's going to happen like? This is like a big anticipation.

00:27:42.50 – 00:27:53.12

There's a lot of, like, moving pieces and unknown factors here. And then I got so excited once you showed up that I didn't eat dinner, then we got hammered, then we got hammered.

1Speaker 1
00:27:53.12 – 00:28:00.54

Lauren, Halfway through the night, you were like, Can I speak? No, I know this is you became like.

2Speaker 2
00:28:00.54 – 00:28:12.06

Another woman In this moment, I got so nervous. No, you got so excited. I like, pulled you, like, not even pulled you aside. I casually said to you, like, you know, like, I have a few words I could say.

00:28:12.12 – 00:28:33.48

And you're like, Oh, like a speech, and I'm like, I mean, it's not written anywhere. But like, I've been thinking through some things. And you're, then you're like, Oh, and then you pull me close and you're like, are you going to embarrass me? And I was like, No, I don't think so. You become a woman on a mission there is. So we were like, in the back corner of the lounge in the four seasons, kind of like, have, like, our own area, but like, we didn't like rent out the space.

00:28:33.48 – 00:28:49.94

It wasn't a private event, so like it was a Friday night in L.A. at the four seasons lounge, like people were there, like having their drinks. There was a live band playing, you go to the live band and you shut down the live music. And then my friend was to give a speech.

00:28:50.06 – 00:29:03.14

Everybody needs to relax. You shut down the music you gather. I think there's like 25 30 people at like, your engagement celebration, you gather everyone in a large circle and then you go, you push me into the middle.

00:29:03.72 – 00:29:06.98

I don't have any like, I don't even have like a notes on my phone.

1Speaker 1
00:29:07.08 – 00:29:18.40

Like, nothing is written. Well, to be fair. You were like, pretty fucking confident. I had a little liquid courage at that point. It's also just cute, cause I think these are moments in life where we're best friends.

00:29:18.50 – 00:29:26.86

We've been best friends since we were so young. But like, there's not many moments in life that you get to, just like, do something like that for each other. And I think.

2Speaker 2
00:29:26.86 – 00:29:44.56

It was cool, too, because like, I was so a part of, like the evolution of you and Matt's relationship. And like, that's how. Like, I opened the speech, and, um, daddy gang, I guess I'm gonna do my speech for you right now. Yeah, it was really good. Um, I was like, let me, like, get the beginning story, yeah.

00:29:44.78 – 00:30:08.56

Okay, um, I was like, So, when I met Matt, I was at a really weird point in my life. I was coming out of a seven-year relationship and I was living on Alex's couch. And that's when you and Matt, like, had just met. We're just starting talking, like in the phases of like, facetiming every night, so I was facetiming that every night, I was getting to know Matt with you.

00:30:08.90 – 00:30:23.08

And I remember one night where you and Matt were facetiming and nothing like Profound was really said. It was just like a fun. We were having some wine. He was in Canada, filming a movie and like, we were just like hanging out on, like a Saturday night. It was Covid.

00:30:23.24 – 00:30:33.94

So like, it was like a Facetime hang and you hang up the Facetime and I just start crying and you're like, Lauren, like, what, what happened, what's wrong? and I was like.

00:30:35.66 – 00:31:03.72

Whoa, like, I want to find someone who looks at me that way and talks to me that way. And like, that was a Facetime and I could feel that through, like a Facetime, like, you're lucky, hold on to that from that moment onward. Like forward, Matt set the caliber of the type of guy, that like, type of man, that like. I knew that I needed in my life. And that was the next part of the speech, which, in theory, like, I really should have. Because then I started listing things that you and Matt taught me about a healthy and good relationship.

00:31:04.56 – 00:31:15.06

And, you know, in theory, like those are things that probably I should have had listed. Because I was just coming up with them on the spot a little drunk. And I was like, Matt and Alex taught me what a healthy sex life was.

1Speaker 1
00:31:15.06 – 00:31:21.30

My mom was just like, Oh, my dad was like, and I was like, people have that reaction, and I was.

?Unknown Speaker
00:31:21.30 – 00:31:25.28

Like, what the fuck you know who this person is? I'm like, Mom, you listen to my fucking show, oh.

2Speaker 2
00:31:25.28 – 00:31:41.44

And you know who else was in the room? I was so into my speech that like, you know, like when you're like speaking and like everyone around you was just like, blurry. And like, you're just like, speak words, speak words. So like, we're in a circle and like, like, I said, like, the four seasons was like it was a full swing and Friday night like going.

00:31:42.10 – 00:31:47.80

Morgan Freeman was there, he joined the circle and he did not want to walk through while Lauren was in the middle of her.

1Speaker 1
00:31:47.80 – 00:32:02.80

Speech So he's standing in the fucking room. And so Lauren's giving her speech and Morgan Freeman just stops and is like, listening to Lauren speech and smiling and looking at Lauren. And then Lauren finally finishes her speech. And he just like, goes around and I'm like, Do you know who's just watching your speech?

00:32:02.84 – 00:32:13.72

And I'm like, No, because I was just blacked out. What did I even just say just now? Best night of my life It was such a fun weekend. It was truly the most fun weekend of my life.

00:32:13.92 – 00:32:15.84

And I will never forget it.

2Speaker 2
00:32:33.22 – 00:32:42.74

So let's go back to the beginning. You have a lot of new listeners who may not even know who Mr. Sexy Zoom Man is. Tell them how the two of you first met. It was in the middle of the pandemic.

1Speaker 1
00:32:42.74 – 00:32:57.78

And my agent called me and he was like, we should do a call her daddy TV show like a scripted series, like we should do something about it. And I was like, I just don't think that it's like the right time. Like, I want to focus on the podcast, but sure I'll have some meetings with producers.

00:32:58.40 – 00:33:16.82

And I remember I had like a string of four producers that I had to meet. One was like the producer of Gossip Girl, the original one. And I was like, geeking out. But a lot of these producers were like older people. So I was very just like I was not thinking of, like anything sexual, obviously, when I'm talking to these men.

00:33:17.58 – 00:33:24.42

And then my last meeting was with Matt, but I googled him and I was like, Wait, he's young and he's hot, and I immediately am like.

00:33:25.94 – 00:33:39.46

Fuck, I need to put makeup on in a pushup bra and a tight shirt and look fucking hot as shit. So, like, in these other meetings, I'm like, Hi, I'm Alex, and then I'm like, Oh, fuck, like, let's go. So in those 15 minutes, I make myself look hot and I get on the Zoom and I'm just staring at him.

00:33:39.70 – 00:34:00.16

Like, I'm staring at his square, Thank God, you can't tell what you're staring at. But he had this like humble confidence about him. That I was like, I had just been fucking with losers, like I was dating guys that were just so insecure. And I think there was something about Matt that just made me feel very like, Wow, he's such like an independent human.

00:34:00.18 – 00:34:11.92

Like, you could just tell he's like, good on his own shit, like he's confident he's successful. Like that was the initial attraction. Is like he is a very whole person, it appeared, and I assumed.

2Speaker 2
00:34:12.12 – 00:34:17.84

How did you progress from that Zoom to a first date? Because I'm assuming he didn't leave that.

1Speaker 1
00:34:17.84 – 00:34:24.06

Zoom being like, Oh, yeah, she's the one. No, yeah. He was like, not interested in me, and I was like, that's my husband.

00:34:24.44 – 00:34:49.48

Um, not actually, but I was like, I'm into it. I also was like in a lull where like, I kind of wasn't talking to, like all my old side pieces. People on my roster, the roster had completely disintegrated to like, three guys that I was like, kind of done with, bored with. And so I remember that night my mom was in New York City, with me randomly staying with me. And I googled him and looked up every possible interview that I could watch of him.

00:34:49.66 – 00:35:04.56

That's what I used to do with these athletes is I would like look up every interview, watch them study and watch their body language. So while I'm creepily watching this video of him speaking at like an NYU conference, I will never forget it. He had like this hot, like great t-shirt on, he looked great. I get an email from him.

00:35:05.18 – 00:35:23.40

And this is the next day after we had our Zoom. And I get this email from him and it's like, So are we making this TV show or what? What I didn't realize is, he told me the people at his company were like, Matt, you don't understand, I know, you don't know what. Her brand, but like, we need this show. Like, please, like, make it happen, make it happen.

00:35:23.44 – 00:35:36.60

And he's like, Okay, so he emails me, are we making the show or what? and then he's like, If you're ever in L.A. let's have a meeting. And I was like, I'm actually going to be in L.A. next week. Were you actually going to be in L.A.

00:35:36.68 – 00:35:38.60

Yes, that was my series, I didn't know if you were.

2Speaker 2
00:35:38.60 – 00:35:43.70

Like, Okay, like, I'm booking a flight right now, it works out, I'll be there next week.

1Speaker 1
00:35:43.76 – 00:35:56.26

And like, that's so weird. I'm like, on Delta, like book book. I get on the plane and I go to LA. Matt and I first were going on this business meeting to Matsuhisa, which is the sushi place.

2Speaker 2
00:35:57.20 – 00:36:00.16

That's where the meeting was set for. Yes, that's where the meeting was set for, he picks.

1Speaker 1
00:36:00.16 – 00:36:07.36

Me up, I get in his car. I remember being so, and this is how I knew I fucked with him. This is like, so fucked up. My brain was still a little toxic.

00:36:07.84 – 00:36:19.32

I get in the car and he's on a work call and he's like, Sorry, like, I'm on a call. And I'm immediately like, fuck me. Like, not being like, Hi Alex, so nice to meet you. Like, eventually you'll see Matt it like, treats me amazing.

00:36:19.32 – 00:36:33.20

But in the beginning, he was also kind of like playing it coy. So he's on this call, sitting there, sitting there. Finally, he hangs up and he's like, kind of like, not really talking to me. And I do a classic, me trying to make the guy insecure, and I was like, Are you nervous?

00:36:34.04 – 00:36:42.72

And he literally looks at me and goes, Not at all. Why would I be nervous? And I'm like, it usually worked on every guy. He'd be like, Well, kind of. He was like, not at all.

00:36:42.76 – 00:36:52.16

Why would I be nervous? And I'm like, Fuck? And I'm like, I don't know. And he's like, Is that your real hair color? and I'm like, Oh, he hit you where it hurts.

00:36:52.28 – 00:37:01.64

I was like, what? And then he goes and like, Do you are those? Is that your also your real hair? Cause I had extensions at the time. Now again, I know I'm getting into the real detail, but like, let me just give you guys the tea.

00:37:02.76 – 00:37:16.18

I at that point in my life, this is this is going to come back around to make sense in this story. But let me just say I had some extensions in. Okay, there's nothing wrong with extensions. But I lied and I was like, Oh yeah, this is all my real hair cause.

00:37:16.18 – 00:37:21.60

I'm like, who cares? Because my hair was healthy, I just had a little clips, okay, a couple of clips in. I was like, I don't.

00:37:21.66 – 00:37:26.06

Cause I at that point, I don't even go listen, the point was, Is I?

00:37:29.60 – 00:37:37.04

So I lie, and this is going to come back around to bite me in the ass, so I lie. But I'm like, whatever, my hair is healthy. I just had, like, a couple. That's what every girl says.

00:37:37.04 – 00:37:38.86

Like, Yeah, bitch, then why do you have them in?

00:37:40.96 – 00:37:53.48

So we get to Matsuhisa and so we sit down and here we go. I am like, I'm going to have sex with this man at one point in my life. But it's still a business meeting, at this point, completely business meeting.

00:37:53.70 – 00:38:18.92

Now, if I brought Madden right now, he would be like, I had really no idea what call her daddy was when I met you. So we start talking and you guys have to keep this in mind, which now I can say to you guys, cause I feel like you guys. I feel like the Daddy gang can probably feel the difference from, like who I was when I started the show to where I am now. I'm relaxed, I feel the difference, I'm taking pauses.

00:38:19.24 – 00:38:37.04

I'm not trying to, like, scream and like, come up with stories just for stories. But I was selling the Call Her Daddy Show at first. So we start this meeting at Sushi, and Matt is like, So tell me about the brand, like, what do you think the show would look like? And I am like, let me tell you this.

00:38:37.06 – 00:38:48.74

I'm like, being the call her daddy girl, I'm like, flipping, let me tell you about this and like, sucking the dick and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Matt's just like, Okay, okay, okay. 15 minutes goes by and I'm like, putting on a show.

00:38:49.14 – 00:39:06.08

And he's like, I mean, your brand is like, phenomenal, like it is very impressive what you've built. But if I can, I'd be real with you. And I was like, Sure, up until this point, just keep in mind. Every single person business wise in my life was like, you should do the show. And I think, again, I can just kind of be honest and say this like something about this.

00:39:06.08 – 00:39:25.44

Industry is like, everyone wants to just get their paycheck and get their percentage. And he was the first person he looked at me and said, Can I be really honest with you? And I'm not just saying this because I don't think this is the right fit for my company. I don't think you should do the show right now. And I was like, What?

00:39:25.60 – 00:39:33.54

Why? And again, this could just be a paycheck for Matt. And he was like, because you need to focus on your podcast again. I had not signed my Spotify deal yet. Like nothing.

00:39:33.84 – 00:39:43.12

You were at barstool at this point, right? still at barstool by myself. And he was like, you need to focus on. Call her daddy, the podcast. This could eventually come. Just keep doing what you're doing.

00:39:43.26 – 00:39:54.04

Keep the main thing, the main thing, keep doing what you're doing. The minute he said that, I was like, I totally agree. Should we get, like another drink, like, Oh, wait?

00:39:54.12 – 00:40:03.92

Okay, and like, Tell me more about yourself. And Matt literally goes, What just happened? and I was like, What do you mean? He's like, No, no, no.

00:40:04.00 – 00:40:11.06

I will never forget it. We were talking about this the other day. He was like, what just happened? and I was like, Well, I'm done, like, I'm done pitching.

00:40:11.18 – 00:40:26.66

Like, that was my call, her daddy, shit, now I'm just being myself. And he was like, What? And he said, he said in that moment for himself, that was the moment where he's like, Oh, this girl is like, way more complex than I fucking thought.

00:40:26.94 – 00:40:38.34

Not to say he thought I was dumb, but he was like, this girl's just like, kind of fucking bimbo, that's like talking about sex. And he was like, In that moment, I realized how smart you were, and I was, like, immediately captivated, I was like, Oh, fuck.

00:40:38.66 – 00:40:51.12

This fucking little girl from Pennsylvania is not just fucking and sucking and talking about blow jobs or whatever like this is like a shit. This is legit. Like she's building a show and a brand and she knows what she's doing. And then immediately it turned onto a date.

00:40:51.36 – 00:40:52.42

And I was like, So if we're not going to?

2Speaker 2
00:40:52.42 – 00:40:58.22

Make the show like, Who made the first move that night? Me, what'd you do? I was, I remember saying.

1Speaker 1
00:40:58.22 – 00:41:09.56

Something like, So if we're not going to make this is what I said, I said, we're not going to make the show. But I want you to know you're on my show this week. And he was like, Excuse me. I was like, Yeah, I was podcasting about you before saying, I'm so excited for our business meeting, our date, and I'm like, into you.

00:41:09.58 – 00:41:18.48

And like, I would like, let's just hang, and he was like, kind of down, like he just smiled or whatever. And so we immediately just start flirting, we get so fucked up.

00:41:18.56 – 00:41:32.26

We have sake, we have beer. And I remember at one point in the dinner, Matt put his hand across the table and was just like, like, started holding my hand. Like, we are kind of fucked up at this point, like, maybe liquid courage. We just both started getting so cozy.

00:41:32.36 – 00:41:36.46

It was one of those dates where, like, by the end, I was like, Have we been dating for a year? like?

2Speaker 2
00:41:36.50 – 00:41:41.04

We felt like, without a doubt, it's like, Oh, I will see you again. Absolutely, I love someone.

1Speaker 1
00:41:41.04 – 00:41:46.44

That's so forward, like it was, so the right vibe. I'm getting butterflies. We were like leaning towards each other.

00:41:46.62 – 00:41:53.08

We were talking, I asked him all about his past and like, So then I was like, finally, the dinner ends. See, you were asking about the childhood back then.

00:41:53.34 – 00:41:56.22

Exactly, it's nothing new, it's nothing new, it's not just for the show, guys.

00:41:56.30 – 00:42:08.02

I'm like, What happened in your childhood? why are you the way you are? And so he takes me to the bathroom and we go through the front door and I'm peeing, texting my mom vigorously, like, he's perfect. I'm obsessed with him.

00:42:08.04 – 00:42:15.62

He's perfect, and then he texted me, He's like, I'm out back. I will never forget it. It was like the best moment of my life.

00:42:15.92 – 00:42:34.44

I come out of the bathroom and I turn, and it's like a long hallway to the back of the parking lot. And I see Matt and he's just standing there and I walk out to him. Cause we're going to go get our car from Ballet and he grabs me, pushes me up against all, grabs my face and starts making out with my face now.

00:42:34.64 – 00:42:45.60

So hot, so great. However, he starts putting his hands in my hair and I'm like, my extensions, my extensions, and.

?Unknown Speaker
00:42:45.60 – 00:42:49.48

Then I'm like, I'm so obsessed with this guy, I'm like, I don't want to start this relationship on.

1Speaker 1
00:42:49.48 – 00:43:03.86

A fucking lie. It's too early to be called out for a lie. So immediately we're like having truly, like, the most hot, like. A picture of it actually felt like a movie. Like pushes me up against the wall, like makes out, goes up in the tracks, and I am like, Fuck me, what do you do?

00:43:03.96 – 00:43:11.74

I immediately do the thing. Remember, I used to say this on call her daddy. If you don't want them to feel your extensions, have them finger you, like there was no, he fingers you in the parking lot.

00:43:11.94 – 00:43:24.28

No, no, no. He didn't finger me, but I basically grabbed his hand and like, put it, I just put it down, and then I put my hand in his shit. I was, I mean, I put his, I put his. I started giving him a blow job.

00:43:28.00 – 00:43:44.36

I basically pulled his hand down, and you know where you do that, where you hold their hands so tight. Like I'm holding his wrist so it can't go farther. And then I pulled it down and then I go up to his neck so he couldn't get up and around immediately. I did block the classic block, like, do not get up in and around my tracks.

00:43:44.74 – 00:43:53.06

We can't start this on a lie. Okay, we get in the car, we make out before we leave. L.A. He. Then this was the best part and then I can stop.

00:43:53.06 – 00:44:11.08

Cause I could go on forever. But basically, Matt had told me he had to leave the next day for Canada because they were going to start shooting a movie. We get in the car and I'm like, damn, like, when's the next time I'm going to see you? And he was like, You're going to kill me. But I know I told you like, we had to do dinner tonight.

00:44:12.52 – 00:44:22.90

I'm actually not leaving for Canada, I'm going to be here for the whole week and I immediately, why wasn't he leaving for Canada? Because, oh, because the actor got Covid, oh, so, he was like, So.

00:44:22.90 – 00:44:33.58

Now we had to push it a week. So immediately in my head, I'm like, Holy fuck, like we're going to get a week of. Just like, I'm going to fuck this man at the end of this week, like, I need to have sex with him. Like, I was just getting great vibes.

00:44:33.68 – 00:44:51.00

It's all too good to be true. I got to know exactly and usually like, I don't I, and it's not like a. It was just a thing I always did, where I never really slept with a guy. For the first like month or two with Matt. I was like, this is so not going to be based off of like, I just need to see our chemistry.

00:44:51.00 – 00:44:56.84

Cause this is almost too good to be true. We get back to the hotel. He's like, can I come up for, like, a nightcap drink? I'm like, Absolutely not.

00:44:56.92 – 00:45:06.80

I'm like, I can't fuck him on the first night, so we make out in the car, I send him away, so Matt texts me. When I get up to my hotel room, I still have the screenshot and it's heart eyes, and he's like, You're amazing.

00:45:07.34 – 00:45:32.14

And I was like staring at it, just like lying in bed, just staring at it. And my sister was staying with me in L.A. At the time. We were staying in this hotel together and I walked into the hotel. Like, I'm in love. CATHERINE Like, obviously, like, not actually. But it was like that high of like. I had been on so many bad first dates and then you're in Covid, having no success. And it was like, I couldn't believe how lucky I got that I found this guy that was hot and successful.

00:45:32.46 – 00:45:43.82

And like, So I was just so attracted to him, like, how is this real? And so he texts me and he does heart eyes, and he's like, you're amazing. And I was like, that was everything. And then we just like, left it at, didn't hear from the next day.

00:45:43.90 – 00:46:02.60

And then the next day, on Wednesday, he texts me in the morning and he's like, What time are you coming over? And I was like, God bless me, I'm going to fuck my man tonight, so I went over that night. No, I didn't fuck him, but sorry, Matt.

00:46:02.70 – 00:46:12.86

And sorry, Steve and Lisa, his parents love you all. I go over for, like tacos, and we go in his hot tub, the green margaritas, the green margaritas.

00:46:12.86 – 00:46:17.52

They get you fucked up and we just did everything but sex.

00:46:19.20 – 00:46:37.64

And that is probably when I knew that this would be the man that I spent the rest of my life with. How do I say this? He was technically skilled. Matt Kaplan I have never had a guy eat me out.

00:46:38.86 – 00:46:54.18

I have never had multiple orgasms, I know I've never even had an orgasm from a guy eating me out. Let's just say, like, excellent, excellent. I left the next day blown away.

00:46:54.44 – 00:47:02.90

I was like, still orgasming, still orgasming. I was like, this is the craziest thing. And then he was like, why don't we go to Santa Barbara for the weekend? And I was like, Wait, what?

00:47:02.98 – 00:47:07.62

And he's like, It's Covid, you're going back to New York soon, let's see what's up. And we did.

00:47:09.54 – 00:47:11.46

Okay, yeah, and then the rest was history.

2Speaker 2
00:47:29.12 – 00:47:50.44

So let's talk about marriage because throughout this entire episode I've been saying how. I had no idea if you were even going to say yes. And that had nothing to do with Matt and everything to do with you. Because for years now you've been telling me, your family, your friends. That you weren't sure if you were ever going to get married, or if that you even believed in.

1Speaker 1
00:47:50.44 – 00:47:57.36

Marriage? Yes, that is true, and I was very upfront with Matt about that since the beginning.

2Speaker 2
00:47:57.36 – 00:48:02.74

Of our relationship, when did you begin to question marriage if that was something that?

1Speaker 1
00:48:02.74 – 00:48:03.40

You believed in.

00:48:05.76 – 00:48:13.02

Maybe it's because my mother is kind of this way, I just always was questioning.

00:48:14.54 – 00:48:26.66

Everything in my life, which when I was younger got me in a lot of trouble, but I just never wanted to conform to. If someone was telling me to do something, I would always be like, why? And most of the time people can't tell you the reason, and then you're like, Well, why would I do that?

00:48:27.14 – 00:48:42.72

That was a nightmare for me in high school and stuff, I got in a lot of trouble. But marriage to me was never something I dreamt of. I can't explain it too, because my parents are so in love and have been married for so many years. And they had such a beautiful marriage when I was growing up.

00:48:44.98 – 00:49:18.96

My individual sense of self and being my own person, and being strong and in a healthy relationship with myself is so important to me. And has always been more important to me than a partnership. And I think that when I think about a partnership, I think about someone that adds something to my life. And we have this beautiful partnership and we add to each other's lives. But we don't need a piece of paper. Why don't we just choose each other every day?

00:49:19.10 – 00:49:30.76

And I think marriage is so thrown around like it's time. People don't know each other. People are cheating on each other, one person is so unhealthy in the relationship, one person doesn't even love the other person.

00:49:30.88 – 00:49:44.54

You see, it's used to like, we'll be stronger together, and it's like anything that you don't. This is what my mom always said. Anything that bothers you about a partner will only get 10 times worse if you marry them. Don't think it's going to fix.

2Speaker 2
00:49:44.54 – 00:50:01.08

Shit, you weren't willing to say yes to marriage if you weren't like a million, million, million, million, million percent. Sure. If you were in a situation, you're like, Well, I love him. And I could see myself spending the rest of my life. That would be like, Oh, the concept of settling.

1Speaker 1
00:50:01.62 – 00:50:15.60

To me is the most common thing I think of people that I see. And it breaks my heart for people. Because it's like so many people are like, we've been dating for five years. What am I going to do? Start over? Yeah, absolutely.

00:50:16.14 – 00:50:28.86

I have people in my mom's life that are in their 60s that are like, I'm miserable. My mom was like, you have almost 30 more years of your life, you're going to stay with him 30 more years. You're going to be miserable, like I think.

00:50:28.86 – 00:50:44.56

I just have always looked at it as for more of, like a practical, realistic, rather than fairy tale. And maybe that's bitten me in the ass, cause maybe I've come off a cold in relationships. But I like it because I feel like by not having this idealized expectation of being like, I want to get married.

00:50:44.56 – 00:51:08.20

Of course, all the fun things, but half the people want a wedding because they want a wedding, they're not even happy with the person sitting across from them at the wedding. I set an expectation for myself of I'd rather be alone, and I kind of think I got in my head with that and I was okay with it. And I thought I would have someone give me sperm and I literally was going to have kids.

00:51:08.20 – 00:51:27.28

If I hadn't found someone, I was like, fuck it. I'll like, find a good donor, and I'll like, have my own fucking kids and my own life. And like, I just think my happiness to me is way more important than fulfilling. And checking off some box that society deems is like the picture perfect thing. Like, I worked really, really hard on my like self-esteem and my self-worth, and like hating myself.

00:51:27.28 – 00:51:44.04

When I was younger, I got to this place where I was like, I finally am happy with myself and where I'm at in my life. I'm not going to settle in any other aspect. If someone's coming in like, they better make it better or I'm not interested. I feel like growing up and like.

2Speaker 2
00:51:44.60 – 00:51:58.18

Idealizing marriage unconsciously, like, pushes you because you just get excited about this like, exciting thing, and it pushes you to be like, well, like, maybe I'm like, still, like this. Far from making the decision, but I'm excited so I'm just going to take the jump. Yeah, that's.

1Speaker 1
00:51:58.18 – 00:52:14.72

That's so interesting, cause I how I knew it was real with Matt is. I'm like, I don't even care if we don't have a wedding, I don't need a wedding, I don't even need a ring. I was like, I don't I. Why my view changed on marriage was, I know I want to have children with this man.

00:52:15.28 – 00:52:46.98

I know he's going to be an incredible father. And I think that my view changed when I knew wholeheartedly within myself that there is no settling in this dynamic. There is no losing 0.1 of myself, and there is no compromising in terms of who I am and what I believe in. Of course, there's compromise in a relationship in terms of, like, how you work together to form as one.

00:52:47.50 – 00:52:57.34

But the moment that I realized, Oh, I'm one, like, I know this sounds insane, cause you really feel like you can't be like I am 100..

00:52:58.96 – 00:53:12.84

If it was, there could be more than a hundred percent. I am 100 myself with Matt. I can, like, say anything, I can be my worst self, my best self, I can be annoying.

00:53:13.10 – 00:53:24.64

I can be gross, I, whatever it is. And it's not just a comfort thing. It's like we love each other as two human beings and we're so good on our own and coming together.

00:53:24.84 – 00:53:38.18

We're just better together. He makes me better, I think I make him better. And so that was the moment I knew, like, I don't have to change anything other than I'm going to be happier with this person by my side. That was the minute I knew.

00:53:38.18 – 00:54:00.06

Like, I also know he wants to get married, Matt wants to get married. And there's also something in me where I was like, I also want to make him happy and it's not now that I'm doing something for him. I now have gotten to the place where I genuinely believe that marrying him does not go against anything.

00:54:00.06 – 00:54:21.98

And I actually think it's beautiful to change your mind. Because my version of marriage was not what it is now, my idea of what a marriage would be is not what it is now. Because I found Matt. And everything that I saw growing up, or thought of, or thought I would have to do, is out the window. Because I'm creating my own version of what my own marriage is going to be, and I fucking love it.

2Speaker 2
00:54:24.70 – 00:54:31.66

Wow, I'm like, you answered all. I don't even have another question to ask, How did you tell?

1Speaker 1
00:54:31.66 – 00:54:38.68

Him, like, You were ready. It was funny, I don't know why, it just came to me. It was, it wasn't. I will say it wasn't a moment where I was like, Oh, my God.

00:54:38.76 – 00:54:57.52

Was it like, a, that's so raven, like, you're like, like, Oh yeah, nasty, like, No. I was literally like, I just remember it was kind of what I just talked about. I had. We'd been just so good and in this rhythm. And he had said to me months prior, I love you no matter what, we don't have to get married.

00:54:57.56 – 00:55:08.18

Like, if that is what you truly want. Like, I just want to be with you for the rest of my life and I want to create a family with you and keep creating memories. And I love you and like, we don't need to get married, but I love to marry you. Alex, Yes.

00:55:08.20 – 00:55:23.28

It would make me the happiest man in the world, but I'm already the happiest man in the world. Like, don't feel pressured to do it. And then I was like, Okay, I don't know when I need someone to allow me to make decisions for myself, and then I'm like, Okay. So what happened was we were so good for so long and I will never forget.

00:55:23.96 – 00:55:39.60

I was sitting in therapy one day and I was just smiling and my therapist was like, like, Tell me hello. And I was like, I think I think I want to get married, and she was like.

00:55:41.14 – 00:55:54.92

Huh, that's wonderful, Alex, like, what changed? And then I talked her through this and she was like, she literally started crying. My therapist started crying because she was like, Oh my God, like your icy heart has just thawed, it's red.

00:55:55.08 – 00:56:10.90

And she was just so happy for me, and so I remember we went to Giorgio Baldi in Santa Monica. Highly recommend 10 out of 10 if you want to splurge. It's like, the best fucking pasta ever, and we go, and this is a random Friday night.

00:56:11.06 – 00:56:22.20

Matt's like, Fuck, we had the craziest week. Like, I want to take you on a date, like, get dressed up. We're going to Giorgio and so we get there and we get a glass of wine. And I'm like, I need to tell you something.

00:56:22.58 – 00:56:28.58

And usually when I say that it's bad, so he's like, Fuck, like, what? and I'm like, No, it's good, it's good like you can breathe.

00:56:28.68 – 00:56:36.24

And I said, I want to let you know that I.

00:56:37.92 – 00:56:48.46

Will marry you? I love that. He's literally like, Oh, you will, like, as if I'm like, Yeah, but I said, like you and then me being such a fucking like control freak.

00:56:48.46 – 00:57:07.56

And I was like, So here's how I want you to do it. No, I literally said, like, So I, you know, you can obviously take it from there. And he's like, What changed? And I was like, I just know with us. Like, you have been so supportive and you have never pressured me into any decision, and you've always allowed me to stay true to who I am.

00:57:07.68 – 00:57:29.34

And like, it means so much to me that you're not trying to make me conform to something that you want. And I know also, like, I've made compromises for things that Matt wants. So it's like we've met each other in this beautiful middle. And I just thought, like, now that we both are still so at the point where we couldn't get closer. And we're like, we're there, let's do this cool fucking thing. That's a celebration of our love.

00:57:29.40 – 00:57:40.78

And I said, So you can do it? And he was like, he got so right, he got so excited, he like, how quickly? After that conversation, what did he propose? So that was in November.

00:57:40.78 – 00:57:48.16

He told me that was in November, so December, January, February, March. Oh, he got moving, okay, so no. So this is why it happened so fast.

00:57:48.68 – 00:58:02.40

So after that, Matt, like, skips out of dinner. He's like, Yes, like, yes, he's fucking told me I can do it, and I didn't tell. Now, back to the beginning of this fucking interview, I had told my mother, I'm so sorry.

00:58:02.50 – 00:58:15.28

And to my father, like, You'll never walk me down an aisle, which I still don't know if you will. I don't know if I want to do this whole like aisle thing, I just can't, but I'll figure it out. But I've never told anyone in my life that was close to me that I told, I never told them. Hey guys, just so heads up.

00:58:15.38 – 00:58:33.60

I changed my mind, I want to get married, right? So Matt, we're very close with this couple and she is in the jewelry diamonds business. And Matt just kind of put feelers out to her and was like, Hey, if you find a diamond, that's right for her.

00:58:34.84 – 00:58:50.74

Perfect, just take your time, like there's no rush, whatever she calls a day later, and Meg is like, Matt, I am staring at a vintage 1920s cut that, like, they do not make anymore.

00:58:50.88 – 00:59:06.22

So he gets it and then he's like, I don't want to sit on this ring, like, let's do it, and then he starts planning. So then the last story that comes is my poor, poor, poor parents get a call from Matt and my parents answer.

00:59:06.28 – 00:59:28.88

And they're like, Hello Matt, like, what's going on? and Matt's like, You know, Um, I got a ring and I wanted to. I know it's a little like old fashioned, traditional, but I wanted to ask, like, Yeah, you down? Like, can I ask Alex to to marry? Me? And my parents? Look at him, my poor father and my mother literally go pale white.

00:59:28.88 – 00:59:37.22

And they're like, Oh Matt, sweetie, we love you. We would. we would love for you to ask her, um.

00:59:39.16 – 00:59:47.44

But do you think she's going to say yes? And poor Matt is like, Yes, Mrs. Cooper, Mr. Cooper, don't worry. Like, Um, yeah, I got the green light.

00:59:47.48 – 01:00:03.76

I got the green light and my mom's like, you sure, little did they know we had this conversation. And so when I walked in that day and I see the Zoom thing and I press play, I felt so happy. Because it just felt like, here we fucking go, like, here we go.

01:00:03.92 – 01:00:29.14

And what I do know is like, I don't feel any well, that's not true. We, ha, we've been having, really, I mean, not that we don't have great sex, but we've been having like, really good sex. But I don't feel any difference in terms of like again, that's why I think I'm happy that I allowed myself to have this idea of. This is not going to change anything, this isn't going to change how he treats you, this isn't going to change your love.

01:00:29.30 – 01:00:37.08

This isn't going to change your sex life forever, like this means nothing. What do you? how do you treat each other? what is your communication?

01:00:37.44 – 01:00:44.32

Do you love each other? do you like this person? Do you even like? You know what I mean? Like, that is when I knew, like, this is great.

01:00:44.40 – 01:00:54.42

So fun, but like, I'm just happy that like, we're going to be together and we're going to make it work. And hopefully, you know, start a family and like, do the damn thing and everyone keeps asking me about.

2Speaker 2
01:00:54.42 – 01:01:07.42

My fucking wedding, I was just going to, dude. But actually, I do have a few, I mean, more than a few. Last questions. Do I get to throw a bachelorette party? are you going to have a wedding? are you going to get a prenup?

01:01:07.82 – 01:01:11.18

Are you going to take his last name? Those are a lot of.

1Speaker 1
01:01:11.18 – 01:01:16.50

Questions Lauren Let's, um, let's save that for another episode.

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