Madeline Argy Debrief: Toxic Relationships [VIDEO]

That's pretty good, right? Hello Daddy gang, welcome back for another Sunday session. So far, season 4 has kicked off with two amazing episodes that I'm so proud of and I'm so happy that you guys are enjoying them. I am so happy to see that you are all loving recently the Madeline RG episode.

It has been so fun and exciting to create something that continues to push the boundaries of what a podcast can be. You know, this started as audio. Now it's like, every day I wake up, I'm like, how can we innovate and adjust and change and keep things exciting?

When I was preparing for this episode, I kept thinking to myself, how can I set Madeline up to just be a hundred percent herself and do what she does best? Essentially, how do I make sure? She's telling the daddy gang her most unhinged, chaotic stories that have happened in her personal life and that she can tell in her personal style? Because let me tell you if you thought Madeline was hilarious and entertaining in this week's episode. This bitch is even funnier the moment the cameras stop rolling, or she puts down the mic, like.

It literally kills me. Every time we stop recording, she would say something, and I'm like, pick the fucking mic back up, say it again. When we were filming in New York, I was joking, just being like, we need to put a mic on her 24-7 to just capture all of the ridiculous things that she's saying. And that is low-key what I did. But because Madeline is so good at her solo story times. I wanted to let her have some of those moments and call her daddy so that you guys could really get to know her.

That is why we did some different creative decisions this episode. Like me walking out of frame to just go get a hot dog, or having me not even ask questions. And just letting her go off and tell her stories. And, as always, I will say, Daddy gang. It means so much to me and speaks to the community that we have built together. When someone feels comfortable enough to come on this show and speak about things for the first time ever. Madeline hadn't spoken about her recent and extremely raw breakup to anyone, as you heard, not even her therapist knows about it.

She's a super private person, to the point where for an entire year, the world didn't even know they were dating. But she ultimately felt comfortable enough to open up about it on this show, and that makes me really happy. This episode felt a little different stylistically, and it was so fun to think outside of the box with Madeline. It was also just fun to, like, spend 48 hours in New York City with her and really get to know her on a deeper level. But are you ready for this?

This actually wasn't the first time that we had podcasted together back in June, I believe it was June 9th to be exact. Before Madeline was even signed to the Unwell Network, she flew from London to L.A. to come sit down and record with me in the Caller Daddy studio. And then things with the Unwell network began to take off and we began the conversations to sign Madeline. And we were waiting for the episode to air around the announcement of her signing with us or her announcing her show. But then I was like, why don't we do something bigger outside of the studio? Like, isn't that what Season 4 is all about? Of course, don't get me wrong.

We're gonna be in studio a lot still, but like, I just feel like. Because while I absolutely fell in love with Madeline the first time I met her, it was also our first time meeting. Okay, then we got super comfortable with each other and I knew that we would have even more to talk about and even more to discuss. But this first interview, which you are about to watch some of it today, it cannot go to waste. And I am so happy to gift you today with a little bit more Madeline Argy. So let's get into it.

When Madeline I first recorded in June, her career was already taking off, and it's so wild to see how much more it's taken off in only a few months. But let's go back and listen to Madeline's expectations for herself when she was first really starting to just create content. You really have popped off so much. And it's so cool to see how crazy your engagement is. And so many people are obsessed with you and watching you and consuming your content. Did you expect this like when you started posting on Tik-Tok, like?

What were your expectations, I?

Like, I didn't, I had no need to ever leave the house, like there was nothing to go outside for at all. So I was like, I genuinely think I went insane and I just posted like a story time of something that I had done, like five years prior, that I'd randomly remembered. And like, people just kind of, like, saw it. And I was like, that's weird because no one follows me.

Like, how does this app work? Like, why did people see this right? And then and then I didn't do it again for ages, until, like, randomly I did, and then it the same thing happened. And I was just like, Wait, this is kind of cool, like the hell, and then like people would DM me on Instagram and like it was.

Those were the days when, like, I would respond to everyone because I was like, Who are you? like, why are you messaging me? And then I'd make a friend and then it was like, this whole exciting thing that I just spiraled.

I think it's so interesting to learn that this was never the plan for Madeline because obviously we watch her. And she's so fucking talented. And one of truly the funniest people I have met in a long time. And there's just truly nothing better than her story times. It's like, I've said this before, and I will say it every time. She has lived a million lives already because her stories and the chaos, they're just endless.

See, she also has stories that make me stop and wonder, like, how the fuck did this even happen? Madeline came to realize one of her exes was cheating on her while they were obviously still together. Because her girlfriend at the time literally showed Madeline photos of her cheating on her. Madeline will tell you the full story.

Infatuation like you could kill my mom and I will be like, at your feet sort of thing. And she was completely in love with her ex, like, completely in love with her ex and she.

Would hang out with her ex sometimes and I was kind of like, Are you sure you hang out with this girl? And like, don't get with her? Seems fishy, but fine, like you're having sleepovers with her ex.

Okay, so you knew what you were looking at when you were looking, right?

So I like idolized her because she was like the gay girl in our area, like the out and proud gay girl. And so like. I knew what she was fucking doing with her hair, like, I kept tabs on it. So when she showed me, I was like, interesting, be wouldn't lie to me? why would you lie to me? No, so I was just like, cute, like then.

I just must have missed an era of her hair being bright blue.

Um, I honestly like it was bad for a while. Like, I swore off dating for a while because I was like, I don't think I can really trust myself with like, picking partners. And then I went and picked another shit partner after that. Like a genius, but not as bad, no one could ever be as bad she was the worst it could have possibly been. I wonder if that's like, relatable, though.

I'm so obsessed with this person, I don't really know why. I feel like, shit all the time, but like. And then once you get out, you kind of start to recognize it once you go through more relationships and you're like.

And like, she's so casual, she's like, Yeah, and then she just showed me the photo and like. But this topic is actually something that I have been.

Thinking a lot about lately, well, I guess not. My partner like showing me a picture of them blatantly cheating on me, that's not usually on my mind. I have actually never thought about that until Madeline brought that up, but I have been reflecting on some of my toxic exes recently. Maybe because it's part of my job, or maybe the fact that I'm so fucking deep in therapy, or probably maybe also the fact that I'm about to get married soon. So I'm, like, really reflecting and thinking and doing a lot of soul searching.

I don't know you can take your fucking pick. But I've been reflecting on some of my early relationships and it is quite shocking remembering how toxic some of them were. Like, don't get me wrong, and I've said this before, and I will say it till the end. I do not regret any of the toxic I went through to get to where I am today. Because every failed relationship, or mistake, or absolute fuck-up, taught me something about what I don't want in a partner. Or something that I will absolutely never put up with again. But, as you probably heard in this Wednesday's episode with Madeline when we were discussing her recent breakup. There comes a time in life and it's really weird because you, like, don't know what's happening, it just fucking hits you.

We're like, you outgrow the toxic, like toxic isn't cute anymore, or also if you don't outgrow it, you fucking should outgrow it. Like, there's a time where it is no longer exciting or funny, or even fun. It actually, actually, I just said actually twice, it actually.

Weirdly kind of gets like, scary, like it's not like, Oh, it's toxic, it's actually. Is this about to be my life forever? Because if I keep fucking doing this, this is where my path is going? Like, if I keep with the toxic, we're gonna forever be with the toxic. And I think Madeline said it perfectly in the episode.

She was like, if you stay in the trenches of toxic for too long, it just becomes the norm. It becomes an addiction. And you don't know anything but the chaos, the anxiety, the uncertainty and daddy gang. I really need to emphasize, like, make eye contact with me right now, okay, you should not constantly feel anxious in a relationship, you shouldn't go to sleep every night with a pit in your stomach.

There shouldn't be screaming fights that are just a regular occurrence, like you should not feel constantly like shit. Or you're trying to improve, or you're trying to make yourself be better and be different and be whatever that. That's not the case, of course. Relationships are work, obviously, but they shouldn't be that hard.

You know what I mean, you should know where you stand with your partner, and there are things that you should never have to tolerate. And.

While we're here, the overall concept of what it means to settle in a relationship, which can look a lot different in everyone's lives. But, like, it's something that I've been wanting to talk about. I was having a really good conversation with my friends the other night at dinner about, like, what is settling? and how do you avoid settling? And like, Have any of us settled in certain areas? So I would be interested. Please write in and let me know your thoughts about that topic, if you need any advice on it. Or if you would be interested in me kind of talking about it in a more long, in-depth episode.

I got you okay, well, I just like, need to do a quick PSA moment. I'm like, Daddy gang, you fucking deserve better.

You better not fucking settle. I love you. Fuck the toxic. Unless, like, you're in, like high school, and like college, a little out of college, like we love the toxic. But then, like, get rid of the toxic. You know, I mean, it's it's a good balance anyways. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

I need to stop back to Madeline.

Never taught like I'll hold food and then I'll eat around the bit that I'm holding with my hands so the germs don't go in my mouth. Okay, and people always pick up on that, I'm doing that. And so obviously she knew that, like, I don't like jumps, don't put my hands in my mouth.

Don't use like public toilets. Freaked out, don't like it. So she would just like I would yawn, and she would just like, shove her fucking hand in my mouth. What? I think I would punch them in the face. No, I should have, like so many times.

I should have just smacked her up and she, yeah, she would just shove her fingers in my mouth, put her hands in my mouth. And then she would like say like, I hope you get like norovirus, which is like stomach bug, she would like name disease and be like, hope you get that.

Really weird, while she tells this story in a funny, comedic way. I also just think it's like, so fucked up when other people, just like, completely disrespect someone else's mental health and boundaries. Like, yes, Madeline makes jokes about her anxiety and OCD. And I think a lot of people watching this, you probably can relate like the things that pain you the most in life. You find humor of like, make a joke about my OCD, or like anxiety to like, make me feel more in on it with myself, whatever it is, how you cope like.

These are really severe and real things that people have to deal with. And I think that's exactly why her content resonates and connects with so many people. Because Madeline is so open and unapologetic about, just like what she's going through and mistakes she's made along the way. As you know, these are some of my favorite types of conversations to have your on-caller daddy. I'm like, we fucking love therapy.

Like, we love going deep, like figuratively and literally had to put it.

Okay, so let I do want to talk a little bit more about anxiety and mental health with Madeline, because we did have a really, really great conversation about it. Let's, uh, finish with a little mental health conversation, Okay, how's your anxiety hindered any of your relationships? Yes, in what ways? Um, I think.

But when I was like, embarrassed about it and I wouldn't tell people, they would think I was pushing them away. Or being a bitch or had, like, some kind of temperament issue. And so that definitely, like, drove a wedge between me and a lot of people. I wouldn't say it causes issues now, I think.

Now that I have the like language to explain to people like why I feel this way. And also the fact that I'm working on it a lot more than I used to, I think makes it a lot easier. Like if I'm in a bad spot where anxiety is hindering that person as well. Like, I'm anxious a lot, like we're going out, but I'm anxious and it's like a thing. If I'm not working on that behind the scenes, like, it can be a bit frustrating because it can slow us down or whatever. I think when my partners know partners plural, when my bitches know that, I'm like, working on it. It's, you know, like with anything, it's easier to.

Yeah, it's um, less frustrating because I understand that it can be frustrating for people, and I think my OCD is really frustrates people. Because I can't eat in restaurants. I've eaten in restaurants this whole L.A. trip, and I do occasionally do it in London to like restaurants that I trust and have gone to a lot. But like, I really struggle to eat food that other people prepare. And like, like, I won't often use hotels and towels, or like, I'm a bit funny about pillows. I go like it. I think it grinds people's gears a bit, and it, yeah.

But she does, like, you keep throwing up when you have a panic attack because your digestive system literally shuts itself off. To, like, send blood everywhere else and so like. Once she understood that, she could, like, counteract it a little bit. So I feel like understanding the science and like, what, physically, what your body is doing.

Because your body literally thinks if you're anxious, it doesn't understand that. Like, you're nervous to go and fucking call her daddy, like it thinks you're being chased by something dangerous. So, like, you have to treat it like a vessel. Because I feel like we forget we're humans like blood, and whatever the fuck else is in here, like you literally forget to treat it like an animal.

I could go on forever, but Madeline, if you're watching this, I'd love you. She's so fucking talented and she's just such a unique voice that I just I love you over here. I call her daddy. Season 4 is just getting started, I have so many exciting things planned for you guys.

This week we have an in-studio interview. I just want to say, like, as always, I love you and I appreciate you so much, and I truly value the community that we have created together. I think it's so important to emphasize that. Like when these people are coming on the show and opening up about their biggest insecurities or their traumas. Or like, even here for a laugh, and they're trying to be funny and like, have a good time. Like, whatever it is that someone's coming and sitting down with, it's it's nerve-wracking and it's scary because you're opening yourself up to like. Especially the daddy gang. It's like, they want you guys to like them and so I just hope that you guys keep that in mind.

Like, when you are flocking to the comments, like these people are reading this, like being like, Do they like me? And so whether you know the person before they come on, or whether you don't know the person. I think that's more exciting when I'm like, Oh, I don't know this person. I think it's important to, like, have an open mind. Thank you for always supporting them.

And then if you're one of the people in the comments, that's an asshole, go fuck yourself. But you know, I know you're not daddy gang. But I want to see the real OG daddies like in those comments, hyping these people up. Because if you come on one day, would you want those comments about yourself? Can you imagine you come on, call her daddy? You're like, you're telling your family and your friends, and you're so excited. And you go to the comments and everyone's like, Who the fuck is this slut? who the fuck is this trash?

I don't want to watch this or like, can't relate, don't care, don't what next?

Daddy Gang No, you guys are great, it's just the trolls, but thank you guys for being keeping it positive. And I'm excited for you guys to watch this week's episode because it's a really intense, heartfelt one that I felt like, damn, it puts life in perspective. And I just appreciate you guys so much for always making the guests feel welcome, whether you know them or whether you don't know them. Like, there's something we can all learn from each other, and it's it's always a great fucking time on Wednesdays. Okay, so daddy gang, thank you for second sitting on Papa's lap this Sunday.

Okay, fall is coming. Ooh, I was like drinking like a pumpkin latte, something the other day, and I was just like, Shoot this up my asshole, I love fall. I want ten infinity scarves chunked across my neck. I want to be in multiple layers, I want to put my puffer on and a beanie, and I just want hot cocoa and the fire.

And we're gonna start doing that. Oh, maybe I'll do it, like next to the fire. Well, when the weather starts to get a little colder in L.A. which is never, I will start to dress like. We're ready for winter so we can really enjoy winter together. What the fuck am I even saying? I, I just love fall and winter?

Okay, anyways, um, daddy gang, I love you. Sunday sessions are where it's at, and.

Naturally, I will see you, fuckers next Wednesday. Goodbye.