Episode 454: That Time I Met A Murderer II ft. Bailey Sarian

2023-04-27 01:27:36

<p>It’s a lighthearted nightmare in here, weirdos! Morbid is a true crime, creepy history and all things spooky podcast hosted by an autopsy technician and a hairstylist. Join us for a heavy dose of research with a dash of comedy thrown in for flavor.</p><p><br></p>

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You're listening to a Morbid Network podcast.

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I'm Dan Taberski.

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In 2011, something strange began to happen at a high school in upstate New York.

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A mystery illness, bizarre symptoms, and spreading fast.

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What's the answer?

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And what do you do if they tell you it's all in your head?

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Hysterical, a new podcast from Wondery and Pineapple Street Studios.

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Hey, weirdos.

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I'm Alayna.

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I'm Ash.

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And I'm Bailey Sarian.

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And this is Morbid.

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It's a special episode, guys.

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We have Bailey back on the show.

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You remember Bailey.

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Yay!

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I'm so happy to be here.

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We are so happy to have you back.

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I'm so excited.

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And Bailey's like here.

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I'm here.

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I'm in your home.

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In the flesh.

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In the pod lab.

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Yes.

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This is wild.

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It's so cool to meet you guys in person.

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I know.

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This feels so crazy.

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I know.

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I feel like we should have like a screen separating us.

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I know.

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What can I do?

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I'm behind this mic.

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I can't really see you.

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That's true.

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We can just peek out every now and again.

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I know.

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Thank you for inviting me back.

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Of course.

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You're always welcome.

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I love you guys so much.

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I love your podcast.

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You guys are killing it.

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Oh my God, thank you.

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Don't ever give up.

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Believe in yourselves.

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Oh my God.

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I'm rooting for you.

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Same for you, man.

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Thanks.

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Tears shed already.

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Okay, we're done.

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Bye.

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And that's it.

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See you later.

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Thanks for tuning in.

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This was our episode.

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Morbid, but positivity.

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I love that.

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You know, it's so weird because I feel like we've already met in person.

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I know.

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It's a weird feeling of like, well, I know you, right?

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Yeah, it does feel that way.

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When I was coming over here, I was like, we've met.

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Yeah.

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You're like, I'm just going over your house.

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Yeah.

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Of course.

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But we haven't.

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We haven't.

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Here we are.

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And I love your home.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for inviting me into your place.

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You are always welcome in my place.

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Thanks.

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My space.

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And your space.

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You need to throw a huge Halloween rager here.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's so spooky, right?

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Yes.

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It's so spooky.

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Oh, yeah.

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Across the street from a cemetery.

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Hello.

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Yeah.

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Party.

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That's the dream.

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That's what sold me on this place.

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I was like, well, there's a cemetery.

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That's actually very true.

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She texted me and was like, there's a cemetery.

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I think we should get it.

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Do you feel like it's kind of haunted?

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It is.

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It's super old.

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Like, not that.

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Well, the house isn't like crazy old.

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Not as old.

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But it's an old town with like a lot of.

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Yeah.

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Actually.

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Oh, no, I can't tell that statistic because it will give us away.

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Exactly.

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You know what?

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Don't triangulate.

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No, no.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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I'm like, yeah, I love the street.

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I'm like naming everything.

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The street that you are off of.

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No, you said cemetery.

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You're good.

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You literally give us completely away.

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I'll tell you after.

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Got it.

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Got it.

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It's a fun one.

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No facts.

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Yeah.

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Noted.

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Noted.

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But you know what?

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Today we're going to do we're going to do something fun.

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We're going to do some listener tales.

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Yeah.

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You know, because listener tales are brought to you by you, for you, from you

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and all about you.

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Snaps.

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Snaps for that.

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You always do it right.

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I try.

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Every time.

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Every time.

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Because I made it up.

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You know, it's easy to remember.

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I made it.

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You know, I make a lot of things up, though, and I still fuck them up.

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That's true.

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We had to start this episode like three times because I couldn't get the idea

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that there were three of us in the room and not two.

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Well, to be fair, it's kind of hard.

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It's just you two forever.

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It's true.

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And now I'm just here like, hey, remember, I'm here.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Yeah.

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So I'm like, you're not.

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You know, it's OK.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate that.

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But, you know, we're going to start this off with an intense one.

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Yay.

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Because this one includes Jerry Brudos.

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That's a lot.

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Which we haven't covered Jerry Brudos yet.

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No, he's like one of those that I've been waiting to cover.

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Yeah.

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Because you got to be in the right frame of mind to cover that guy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You got to be in the right place.

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Remind me, Jerry's the shoe guy.

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He's the shoe guy.

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Yeah.

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Weirdo.

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Yeah, he's a real weirdo.

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But this one's called OG Listener Tale.

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My mom dated a serial killer.

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Someone on your future topic agenda.

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So they knew.

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They knew it's on my future topic agenda.

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It says, hey, chicas, where do I start?

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You can use my name, which is Meredith.

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I love your name.

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I was never one of those kids that decided to use my middle name or something.

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Attached is a double space 13 point PDF attached for the story I've teased.

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It's not super long.

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They didn't write Pudufa.

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Pudufa.

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It's always Pudufa.

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Terrible.

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I'm sorry.

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It's not super long, so I won't apologize for the length.

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It comes in around eight minutes of reading time.

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That's the new thing that our listeners are doing for us is they're being like,

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this is about 14 minutes of reading time.

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They're beautiful people.

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That's very kind.

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So kind.

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And they're doing a double space PDF for us because I can't see anything.

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That's how I am.

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Right. It's pretty great.

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Yeah.

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So they work with us.

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That's so sweet.

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They put in the work.

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That's nice.

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What a great community.

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Yeah.

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They're a part of these episodes.

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They also gave us a pronunciation guide.

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Wow.

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Which my subscribers are screwing me over.

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They want me to mispronounce everything.

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I say everything wrong.

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99% of the time.

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I think that's why we got here.

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Exactly.

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They were like, you know what?

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I'm going to help you out with this.

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You're right.

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They're like, we feel bad.

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Yeah.

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You guys can't say.

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They just want me to struggle for some reason.

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Yeah.

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But this one, apparently the town is called Corvallis.

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Thank you for that.

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To be extra clear, that is a hard Oregon R.

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Oregon.

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Oregon.

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It's Oregon Trail.

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It's Oregon Trail.

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That's why.

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I know.

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It's Oregon, but it's Oregon Trail.

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Exactly.

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Remember when they read me to filth for how I said Oregon before?

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Oregon Trail actually read us to filth.

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On Twitter.

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The actual Oregon Trail game.

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It was like, it's Oregon.

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And I was like, get out of here, Oregon Trail.

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Oh, wait, you really say Oregon?

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Yeah.

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I see for the place, it's Oregon.

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But when I refer to the game, it's Oregon Trail.

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How come?

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Because I grew up saying Oregon Trail.

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Okay, that's fair.

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And I think we grew up saying Oregon.

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I was going to say, I always said Oregon because my dad used to live in Oregon.

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And I was like, my dad moved to Oregon.

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He moved to Oregon.

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It just sounds like a nice shape.

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It does, actually.

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Everyone from there is like, it's Oregon.

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Yeah.

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It's rough.

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How funny.

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Okay.

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I like that, though.

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But you know what?

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Massachusetts has terrible pronounced names, too.

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Yeah.

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Say Lemonster.

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Say Peabody.

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Say Worcester.

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So Oregon Trail, the game come after you?

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They did.

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And the game was like.

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So I would screenshot and frame that.

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Yeah, no beef with Oregon Trail.

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But yeah, they were like, it's no.

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It says, my choir teacher in high school came from Boston and had so much disdain

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for the Oregon R. We hit that consonant hard.

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Hard.

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Also, the Oregonian appears in the story.

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And Ash, you've gotten it right before.

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So I know you got this for your mental health.

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Oregonian equals Oregonian.

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See, I said it right.

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You did.

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But also, regional dialects are a real thing.

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So you do you.

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See, thank you for ending me with that.

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Because we're always like, regional dialects, guys.

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We say things different.

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Oh, my ever-loving whatever.

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It has taken me so long to get this out.

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Please be gentle.

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Lots of feels involved here.

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Keep it real, my lovelies.

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And they attached a bunch of photos, but we're going to get to the listener, too.

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Yay.

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It says, dear wonderful weirdos, I've listened to you since your first episode.

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And in a long way, I think you've stayed true to your vision.

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Thank you.

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I'm really glad Ash no longer calls herself a trash person, whether or not

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she's drinking questionable Slurpees, but I'm secretly really glad she didn't cut

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the cussing like Papa suggested.

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You got to keep it real. Am I right?

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Condolences on last year's losses and this year's early struggles.

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Congratulations on the many, many successes.

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You're really sweet.

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Oh, thanks.

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Specific to Ash and Drew, you're doing the damn thing.

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Much love to you.

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Thank you.

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Melaina, you're an inspiration to wannabe writers everywhere, including me.

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I wanted to write from the time I was nine years old, but I was discouraged

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because my neurodivergent brain could never decide between first person and

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third person narratives.

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Didn't you struggle with that?

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Yes.

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I was just going to say, don't feel bad about that at all, because I struggled

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with that, still struggle with that.

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I feel like I would, too.

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I gave up with it.

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It's hard.

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It's so hard.

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To this day, I don't know why we can't just call it second person and call it a

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third person, because that was the late 80s.

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I'm an old broad and I was called weird, daydreamer, et cetera.

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Those things are not untrue, but I was also struggling with an undiagnosed

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learning disability.

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So my husband still thinks I should write one of my personal tales into a book,

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but the convicted creepo is out and walking around.

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So there is possible libel defamation shiz to consider.

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That sucks.

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You can make it like fictional, though.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Take some artistic license with it and then you can write it down.

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Boom.

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I say do it.

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I have a few stories to share.

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Accidental amputation comedy of errors, stalkers, serial rapist encounters.

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See above, the guy who is out and about now.

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Oh, no.

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Damn.

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And I'm not sure how to begin, really, even after years of considering a submittal.

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Several of the best stories, this being one, are actually my mom's, but she

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passed away almost five years ago.

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Sad face.

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I'm sorry.

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So some details might be a tad inaccurate or fuzzy.

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I started writing this the day before what would have been her 80th birthday

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in October of 2022.

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We didn't know 75 would be her last.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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So hug your loved ones, kids, because grief and regret is the shits.

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Grief being complicated stuff is why it's taken months on top of

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months to get this sent.

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But good for you for sending it.

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I know.

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It's taken me yet another five months to get this sent.

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And since I've just finished listening to Harvey Glattman, part one, oof, I

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think perhaps the time is at hand.

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Hint, you mentioned one of the main characters on that episode.

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Oh, yeah, because I brought up.

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You did.

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This man's.

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This man's.

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In any case, let's get to the case.

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When I was in my mid-twenties, I found out that my mom had dated a serial killer.

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Imagine just finding that out.

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No.

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In your mid-twenties, your mom's like, you know what's funny about my life?

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One time I dated a serial killer.

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All right.

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I'd be so mad.

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Right?

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Like, yeah.

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Why wouldn't you tell me that day one?

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Yeah, you got it like right away.

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I want to know.

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Came out the womb, Molly.

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Yeah.

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Teaching me my ABCs.

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Be like, by the way.

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You know that guy who killed all those people?

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Yeah.

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Put this away.

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I was in love with him.

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I liked him.

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Found it.

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It came up one day in casual conversation.

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Super cash, right?

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I have no idea why she told me that she chose to tell me the day that she did.

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Mom was a night owl, always had been.

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Growing up, if I called to be picked up from school with a tummy ache, it

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typically took a couple calls to get her on the phone because she was reliably

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lying down napping.

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Relatable.

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Years later, treatment for a previously undiagnosed thyroid problem resolved

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the majority of the excessive napping.

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Always up late, really late, like sunrise late.

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I guess this habit started in her youth, probably high school if she could get

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away with it.

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Grandpa was a stickler for proper behavior.

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But for certain as a freshman in college, she told me she would sit up at night

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listening to the radio and smoking cigarettes.

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Scandalous.

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So as a freshman at Oregon State University in Corvallis, she would sit up

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late and listen to a local radio station.

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And for whatever reason, she called the station late one night and spoke to the

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From what I recall, after several late night conversations, he and my mom

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decided to meet.

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I love that this is like the meet cute in the beginning.

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It's like they were chatting on AIM before AIM.

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Early AIM.

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Given that it was 1960-ish, it was probably a very cute conversation where

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this guy bashfully asked mom out on a proper date.

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Mom told me Jerry had a kind, gentle, pleasant demeanor and a pleasant voice.

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Not Jerry.

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Can I just take a minute right here to mention how terrifying it is that this

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girl is presented as kind and gentle?

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Yeah, you sure can.

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Yeah.

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Wait, did she say how old she was at this time?

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She was a freshman in college.

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OK, OK.

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So she was young.

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Sorry, I'm just trying to get the mental image.

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I know because you're like, where was this?

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What was this happening?

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We got a picture and all.

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Freshman in college while she's sitting up late night listening to the radio.

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Smoking cigs.

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Calling in the radio station.

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It's giving me like now and then vibes.

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Yeah.

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Have you ever seen that movie?

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No, but I love the candy.

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Oh, there you go.

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Yes, I will say.

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You'll love the movie.

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Yes.

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It's such a great movie.

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Yeah, you should watch it.

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It's a nostalgia fest.

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God, I think I've seen it, but it's I can't remember right now.

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But yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's also making me think of an urban legend, Tara Reade, being like the radio

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operator, late at night, people calling in and asking really raunchy questions.

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I love that movie.

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And I love her in that movie.

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She's so good in that movie.

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I'm going to watch it.

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She's underrated in that movie.

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Yeah, Tara Reade.

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Yeah, she's fucking phenomenal in that.

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That was like the height of Tara Reade.

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Oh, yeah, big time.

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That was like American Pie Tara Reade.

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But we digress.

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This is where details get really fuzzy.

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Mom and Jerry went out at least twice.

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I don't know what the order was and what

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they did on one of what I believe was only two dates.

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But on the date I know about, they drove to the coast together.

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They drove to the coast together.

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Yikes.

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Because Corvallis is only 53 miles of winding rural highway away.

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Incidentally, Highway 20 is the longest

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highway in the United States, starting in Newport and ending 3,151.3 miles later in Boston.

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Whoa, look at that.

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But I digress.

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I'm only guessing that this is the beach

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they ended up at because it was the shortest route to the coast.

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The point being that they spent an extended period of time alone in a car

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with him as he drove on rural highways.

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That is really scary.

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Rural highways that to this day have long,

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solitary stretches that outside of busy holiday weekends when everyone and their

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cousin and their cousin's best friend decide to escape to the coast are relatively

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solitary places.

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So here's my sweet little mama, all five foot two of her alone on a road trip in a

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car with someone who someday will be arrested as a serial killer.

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And here I am today to tell you about it

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because he evidently hadn't started killing yet.

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Oh, that's crazy.

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So imagine she, like, realizes it later

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and she was like, that might have been, like, working in his mind.

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Was he thinking about it on that car ride?

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Was he, like, practicing something?

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Like, was she an almost victim?

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Oh, that's freaky.

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That's terrifying.

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That would keep me up if I was her mom.

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Maybe that's why she's a late night owl.

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Oh, yeah, maybe.

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Full circle.

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Keeping her up because I always think about that with these kind of stories is

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like, you must be constantly thinking that every second that you were with that

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person, you got away with your life.

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It could have been totally different.

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Because my thought, too, is, like, these serial killers and stuff,

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they don't just randomly one day decide to kill.

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It's something that they build up to.

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So most likely, like, he was something was marinating up there.

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