Bears Head Coach Matt Eberflus & GM Ryan Poles, Crazy Sports Weekend With UFC, CBB, Ja Morant And More

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On today's part of my take, we have Bears head coach Matt Eberflus and Bears GM Ryan Poles. The earliest interview this podcast has ever done. So, if we screwed anything up, that's because we were up so, so early, trying to get our brains fired. But a very good interview with them, talking about their football philosophies, talking about the first pick in the draft, Justin Fields, Matt Eberflus. Being a cat guy. A lot of good stuff that we covered. And we're also going to recap a pretty crazy, you know, a lot of a lot of sports this weekend. College basketball, UFC, N.BA John Morant Not so good.

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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, March 6th, and boys, I don't even know where we want to start. Spin the roulette wheel Xfl, xfl.

It's still going on, it's going strong. This is my problem. Yeah, XFL kind of got lost in the sauce this weekend.

D.C. Defenders three. You know, okay, they had a big Cup snake, they actually listened to the people and allowed the Cup snake to happen this weekend. Besides that, don't really care, okay?

So that's our XFL recap. Uh, I drank a lot of beer. Yeah, I don't know what where we do. I mean, Conference Championship week is imminent.

Uh, we are starting, we've already started some, there's some bids that have already been taking place, five bids, five bids that had taken place. Saturday was another great day in college basketball. And I guess what we really should start with is Max being the biggest jinx in the world. So pft, you also had UCLA, uh, max heavy UCLA.

Jalen is not out yet, The MRI is not out yet, but uh, Jalen Clark, uh, for UCLA, their best defender, uh, Tours Achilles. I'm just going to say, there's too many Jalen's. yeah, too many Jalen's can't. I can't keep track of all the Jalen's at this point.

It looks like a torn Achilles if anyone watched the play. Yeah, no, I, I told Max afterwards, because, um, he got us all invested in UCLA. We were going to be the Bruins.

We were going to get excited. Our guy Mick Cronin Great, you know, they're, they're whooping Arizona. Everything feels great. Blue blood, blue blood. Number one seat.

They're probably still going to get a number one seat. Bill Walton talking. I think the 1973 team was getting honored. And, uh, pft. I was so mad at Max and so mad about everything that I went. And I found like, alternate fan angles of his torn Achilles, and so I've seen at least three different angles, including the TV copy.

It is a torn Achilles now. Isn't it possible, though, that, if any coach kind of relishes this opportunity? Where nobody believes in you? It's Mick Cronin. Yeah, was UCLA too highly touted going into this tournament for Mick Cronin and his underdog mentality to truly shine? I listen, they're still a very good team, but that was their their ceiling because that was, you know, he is their best defender.

He was, he's a very good player, he, he, he can change a lot of games with how he defends. And now your rotation gets shorter. Yeah, and what's the old saying? Uh, fuck, what was it?

No, that's not good. Next man up, I like it, Jake, we're going next man up more teams.

Let's be honest, more teams should do. Next man up. No, it's play play eight, trust seven. now UCLA is going to be play seven, trust six a lot harder to do.

That's a lot of math. Well, that's a basketball play. Trust seven when you're in, like, you know, March madness, when you're in the N.B.A. finals, playoffs, play trust seven, yeah.

It's a good way to go about life. There's still probably going to be. Titus was telling us earlier that they're probably going to be one, so they'll be protected a little bit. Um, this is, it's not good we. I'd rather not be in this position that I am right now, but I still got my boiler makers.

Yeah, boiled down, baby. Good thing no one from Tennessee got injured this week. I know Jake, right?

I'm confused. Good thing no one from Tennessee got injured. Nope, no short kings from Tennessee got hurt.

I like, I love that dude, Ziegler, too. I was going to say, spin zone, you know, maybe if you're trying to find one, just picture this in a couple of weeks. Cold open before one shining moment, it's the injury, Achilles.

Oh, start of the DVD music starts tip off in Nashville. Okay, cause I can, I can picture it.

Uh, Saturday of of the opening weekend, UCLA loses the one eight matchup. And Max is sitting off the stream. And I'm just screaming at him the whole time, being like, Well, look, what you did, you fucking idiot? And he's just like, I shouldn't have got my hair cut. I'm a bad guy. I might jump in in the boat for, uh, for Nova, too.

I might put a future on Nova, I might put a. I might put a future on Nova to win the nit. Yeah, that actually is good, yeah.

Let's do it. Although those teams usually don't try hard in the nit, I don't even know if I'll make the nit.

Okay, Max is the definition of down bad right now. It's been a bad. It's been a bad three weeks for old Maxie. Yes.

But he has paid, he has paid, and, uh, he's paid up the Super Bowl bet. And uh, yeah, we had a great Saturday, great Sunday at College hoops. We're gearing up. This is one of my favorite weeks of the year, we'll have some content coming out for it.

So, uh, they was. It was a very good like, wall to wall last. Something about senior night, senior night really gets it going, you know, everyone gets the same, uh. Framed picture of of their jersey, their families standing behind them. Um, and it's always funny in college basketball, because like, if you have your family out for an MVP warden in the N.BA or the N.FL, like, you've got money. So everyone's dressed really nice in senior night.

It's like your parents are just looking like your parents, they've always looked like your parents. I love the giant ribbons that they wear sometimes, that's only a ribbon that you would wear on an occasion where you're walking onto a hardwood floor.

We should also talk about maybe the most important college basketball news of the weekend, which we haven't touched yet. Um, this is from LeBron James. Yeah, just woke up from having a dream that MJ and I was shooting the S H Asterix Plus sign.

I think he meant shit. Back and forth. At the men's National Championship game between North Carolina Slash Duke, Great Vibes and Epic Classic Game, it was a tie game, 94 to 94 with five seconds left. You wouldn't see with the ball, my ass would wake up to see the bathroom right before seeing the ending of the game.

Palm emoji Palm face happens all the time. Never got to the end anyways. Felt real as hell. lol. Good morning everyone.

Smiley face So I got to figure out, let's, let's just figure out what happened at the end of that game. It's also good to know that, uh, that's another way of settling the GoAt debate. Because LeBron James is literally dreaming about hanging out with Michael Jordan. Yeah, I think Michael Jordan's hanging, dreaming about hanging out with LeBron James.

No chance, absolutely not. Probably dreaming about drinking tequila. I think I think UNC won this game 97 97, 94. Yeah.

They had the ball, yeah, UNC had the ball, it was a tie game, 94 94, five seconds left.

Incredible last second shot by Who are we going to say? Made the shot Antoine Jamieson Antoine Jamieson with, with Eric Montross on the assist.

Yes, yes, Tyler Hansborough, he was, uh, he was the coach, yeah.

And then Rasheed Wallace smoked LeBron James out after the game. Uh, yes, hank, one casual take I had, uh, watching the Duke-UNC game, hmm.

Oh, yeah, that did happen as well. Was no, no, that that rivalry is dead, dead.

Over over, Coach K killed it, which brings me to my next point. I don't even really, because I'm not even my my Duke fandom has fallen over the years. But I was watching that game.

Carolina seems like they're not going to make the tournament.

They just seem like a team from A, from a casual point of view, that somehow wins the ACC tournament and gets in. Oh, they have experience, they've been on a run before, they just got to get hot at the right time.

They're not hot right now. Very bad this year against good teams, but somehow these teams get in. That's kind of. That's kind of what happened with UNC to, like, a different extent. Obviously, those are my keep an eye out. But UNC actually won games in the regular season last year down the stretch.

They they won at Duke, the last game coach K ever coached a camp. They haven't, they haven't beaten anybody, they beat UVA.

Uh, their yeah, their first quad one win was UVA, I believe, yeah, and their only quad one win, something I'm looking at, okay.

Okay, okay, I I think what you're going with here, Hank, is that you. You like the uniforms, and when you see those uniforms in March, you're like, that uniform usually wins this time of year. It is, it is true.

We have all the love came back. I watched him rip my heart out. Bacot probably going to, like, roll his ankles 17 times but still put up a double double. These things happen, they just got to get hot.

Yeah, okay, that's true. I don't hate it, it's a good point.

If if UNC gets hot, they have the they have the players, that's also one of the experience. That's one of those bad name, they have the colors, yeah.

That you won't feel dumb because you're just like, Well, it's UNC, right? That's that's on them, not me, yeah.

They're UNC. Okay, that's, yeah, not a bad thought, yeah.

Duke did win that game and it is. It's just the fact that it's not played in the Eighties anymore. It's depressing to me, It's sad. It's just sad having coach K not around. It's a major. Be careful what you wish for.

Situation where I miss it was we needed coach K around. I miss him. College basketball needs a villain. He was a reason for me to wake up in the morning, yeah.

And now I have no reason to wake up, nothing, nothing good in my life, I just stay in bed all day. Yeah, I'm hoping that he'll come out of retirement.

It would be nice. What if he just took the team back and was like, I'm going to coach them in the tournament? Yeah, Shires not ready for the tournament, it would make it.

Yeah, must watch tournament. I mean, it already is must watch tournament. Yeah, yeah.

Why not, cause who knows who's good? Uh, I'm just very, very excited. Kansas lost. What if coach K came back, took Duke and then won a national championship?

That would kill me. That would be very funny, though I would. I'll be honest with you, I would root for Duke. If Coach K did that, I would root for myself to bury him again.

I would root for Duke in that tournament because just the content. Yeah, um, all right. So a lot of college basketball coming up. Uh, should we talk a little UFC?

Yeah, John Jones, the Goat is back on awesome card like start to finish, I don't know if you guys caught like the the main event card. But the guy Bo Nickel, who I think went to Penn State, who was like a stud wrestler, just an insane wrestler, he's going to be a freak.

And then the the uh guy from Kazakhstan, Rachmaninoff, he is the terminator. That dude is crazy. He just beat the fuck out of Jeff Lewis's face and then was like, All right, I can't knock you out. You have a really good chin, let me just choke you up.

Literally put you to sleep standing up. Yeah, he. He connected on like six or seven straight punches right to his jaw, and the dude wasn't crumpling at all. Just like taking the abuse. And yeah, I mean, a solid joke from Steady.

You very rarely see that and and and the and. The woman's, uh, Shevchenko, and um, grasso, Grasso, Grasso is a beast, She's like, plus 600, Grasso is a tiny little monster. They were saying on the broadcast that, uh, Shevchenko, I think had, like, only lost, uh, like, maybe like one or two rounds in the time that she had the belt.

Yeah, did you see the replay? Joe Rogan pointed this out afterwards. So Grasso choked Shevchenko out. And then when she released the choke, you could see the line on her face where the blood had pooled and where there was absolutely no blood circulating.

And the bottom half of her face? There was a clear line there. It looked like Paul Azinger's head in golf, where it was just completely white from, like the lips down. It was awesome. I don't know what it says about me, but I have, uh, you know, I'm a I'm maybe whatever. One step above a UFC casual is.

Cause I do probably purchase, I don't know, 10 pay-per-views a year, so it's like, not casual, casual. But like, I. Obviously it's not my main sport that I'm studying all the time, but in my watching of UFC, I've grown to absolutely love submissions, yeah.

Like, I know that they a lot of people don't like the ground and pound and like the wrestling. Because a lot of times you just don't know what's going on. And guys will lay on each other, trying to get an angle for, like, a whole five minute round. Something about a submission, it's so primal, just watching it, it's crazy.

Watching some of the toughest people on planet Earth, yeah, be like, No mass, yeah, can't do it anymore.

Just get me out of this situation. And that was John Jones, it was, it happened so fast, it's a real gain, like he, all he had. It was basically the worst performance you could have. Because the only memorable highlight you had was kicking your opponent in the dick and then getting choked out within a minute and a half after that.

Yeah, John Jones. When he came out there and he stepped in the ring, they made him cut his his foot wrap off for some reason. It was an illegal foot wrap. And then he stepped in the ring. And I was like, Is John Jones fat now?

Well, he was fighting away, he had to step up, but like he's, he's definitely big in the mid section right now. Although he we didn't have a cause. Joe Rogan will call guys out, he'd be like this.

Guy looks soft, he said that earlier. Yeah, he's like, he looks soft, yeah.

I'll be honest with you, he's soft right now. That's a brutal thing to have happen as you're stepping into the octagon. I think John Jones is the best UFC fighter of all time.

I think at this point it's hard to say otherwise, cause he has that one loss on his record, but that was just for. It's for, like, illegal elbows, right? When he's beating the fuck out of a guy, yeah.

No, he's the only person who could beat John Jones is John Jones, yeah, or the Drug Test guy.

Well, yeah, his demons, yeah, so I'm saying, like, he can't. He had an interview. Uh, like it was a while a long time ago, where someone asked him like, Do you think you can stay out of trouble? And he's like, I hope he did.

He was very honest about it, he wasn't saying, like, Yeah, I'm going to, I've, I've changed. He's like, No, I. This just keeps happening to me and I know it's a problem. It's, um, and and don't get me wrong.

He is the best UFC fighter of all time. But we don't really talk that much about you say, like demons. I think he's got five failed drug tests, not for like Coke or anything. I think he's tested positive five times for doping, for like Peds. And can you imagine if another, like the the the greatest of all time in any other sport, had five positive steroid tests? Yeah, we would probably be like, Fuck that guy.

We should not count these. But I think in UFC you you kind of take into account that a lot of the other guys are probably doping, too. They just get away with it. So John Jones, greatest fighter of all time, maybe worst steroid user of all time? And also, I mean, let's be honest, not not the best guy because there's some things on his rap sheet that are very bad.

Yeah, so, but he is, yeah, he came back two minutes over. Why can't he fight Francis Ngannou? cause he's not in the UFC anymore? Cause Dana White called off negotiations with Francis Ngannou.

So Francis Ngannou, they should start negotiating. Yeah, no, it's, it's. It's very interesting, like set up now that the. The UFC wanted John Jones to win last night because Surreal Gain would have won the belt even though he lost to Francis Ngannou. So it would have been like a mickey mouse. belt. The guy who has the guy who won the belt in the octagon is not in the UFC and someone else owns the belt.

Now, at least there's a distance between it, where John Jones has it. They've never fought I, Dana said never, he said never.

On a Friday, I believe I also saw resurface clips where he said the same thing, Well, that's that's the best thing. Is. Like the like in the fight game, it's it's like the fight game. And college football coaches. If they say something, they can change their mind within a week, yeah.

The thing about about Dana White saying never, say never, but I'm saying never, is that that's in a weird, twisted way, almost better for promoting the eventual fight that would happen. It's like, wait, he said, never, and it's happening somehow, like Dana White knows how to sell a fucking fight. And so he could just reverse course on that. Who knows what he was asking for?

Well, he's also there's rumors that Negan, who wants to just get into boxing, yeah. So that was the big sticking point. They were negotiating for a while. He was there was a price on him fighting John Jones.

I think it was like $8 million, but he didn't. His his main sticking point was, if I signed with UFC, I can't do anything outside of the UFC. I want to pot, potentially box, because if he was a good boxer, boxers get paid way more than $8 million if they're if. If he was like, going to fight Tyson Fury, right? I don't know how that would work. I don't know if they'd just let him fast forward and fight him. But there's a lot of money in boxing for the top level guys.

And so he was like, Yeah, I don't want to do this because they won't let me, like, do other things. So I hope it happens. I think everyone wants it to happen. It did look like they were setting Stipe Miocic up for it, like they want Stipe to do the fight.

And then Stipe, when they when they interviewed him, Stipe was like, Uh, you could tell. He was like a little afraid to fight. John Jones, He didn't seem too super confident after the fight was over. He's a bad dude, he's a bad dude.

JoHN I would not. Personally. I'm going to say this right now, never say never, I will never fight John Jones in the UFC. I won't, I won't, I won't say that and I'll double.

If, if, if Dana White wants to pay me $300 million, I'll get choked up by him. Uh, but he wouldn't, he would just knock you the fuck like he wouldn't go for this. No, I would lay down and be like, I take my back, yeah.

Like, here's my back. I mean, it just choked me out. I'll tap, I w. I wonder if I could just go in and just tap immediately.

Yeah, just tap on my own arm. The strategy to beating John Jones is to lay down on the ground and hope that he hits you with an illegal shot. And then he loses the fight. On a technicality, then you get the belt. What if you had to go longer than a minute and a half?

No, I think I think I've long said that you just beat my concussed brain as I'm flopping like a fish. I've long said that I will do anything if you could, literally anything for a hundred million dollars, and I think I think I would fight John Jones for a hundred million dollars. I don't think you could even run around.

He'll just catch you. You think that you're saying absolutely, because you think that you would stand a chance against him. Okay, really, can I ask a side question?

Yeah, does Riff Raff want to fight you? I heard I heard a rumor at Rough and Rowdy on Friday night. Riff Raff wants to call out Billy. Look, I don't know.

Okay, okay, no comment. Riff Raff, also huge steroid user and has been boxing for the past three years and that's like the only thing he does.

All right, so you're afraid of riff Raff? All right, so Billy's, you're ducking riff, Raff. I mean, I podcast six days a week.

I'm not like, have a professional trainer who trains me. He releases music, he makes bangers anyway. But what I wanted to say is, let's just put a bow on it.

You were ducking riff, Raff, whatever, Chail sawn and said that, uh, chills on, said that Francis and gone. And one of the reasons why they're not resigning him, yeah.

She said this on a Robbie Fox's podcast, My Mom's Basement. Uh, he said that he wasn't a draw like the one that he headlined. the UFC card he headlined only did, like, 30 k.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, this would be a draw because John Joe, but no, yeah, he. But they're like, it's not worth paying for it, cause John Jones is the draw. Like in Ghanou is in a big draw, apparently.

So, I mean, that's pretty crazy. And also, John Jones put on 45 pounds for this fight to get up to the heavyweight level, and he's been. The reason he hasn't fought is cause he wanted to get out of the USADA protocol and do what McGregor's doing right now and just juice up. Yeah, so I mean that that shouldn't be legal.

Yeah, for instance, the guy who did tweet at John Jones after saying, Good job Johnny boy, sincerely the heavyweight king. So if you're, if you're a Tinfoil hat guy, this is all working out perfectly for a mega, mega fight. Yeah, actually, like thinking about what Dana White said about Neganu, teeing it up for a rematch, uh, and saying, Yeah, Neganu is going to fight John Jones.

If he wins, that's not nearly as much buzz as if Dana White physically removes Neganu from the blacklist, right? It's like, Okay, he can fight again. And that was a that was a lengthy two week suspension I gave him. I hope he learned his lesson.

Also, you see the Dreykus knockout against, Uh, who was it? Brunson? That was brutal. Yes, that was just scary.

It was a great. I mean, when UFC like hits and and it's just a great card and like, there's big names and everything, it's awesome to watch. What were you gonna say? Hank? Jake Gyllenhaal was there? Yeah, I was gonna say.

Jack think he's on the juice? Well, No, he congrats Jake Gyllenhaal. He won his fight. Yeah, so he. They're taping a remake of Roadhouse, which is an abomination, because Roadhouse is basically the perfect movie.

Uh, so he got in the ring in between some fights and taped some scenes, uh, of him like winning. And the ref pulled them off and then he kept on hitting them. Yeah, you can read between the lines about what that scene is going to be. It didn't really make me want to see the movie. So I'm guessing that what happens is at the start of the fight, or at the start of the movie, it's Dalton or whoever is playing.

Dalton in Roadhouse Jake Gyllenhaal And he's a UFC fighter and he gets kicked out of the UFC for being too violent. Then he goes on to be a bouncer of a bar in Florida and then works his way back into UFC. And eventually, kick somebody's ass. That's what I'm guessing. I've never seen Roadhouse. Oh my god.

We're going to do, we're going to start doing man man movie Fridays. Pain, summer pain don't hurt. Roadhouse. Or a Dalton, Uh, philosophy major at NYU and one of the greatest lines of all time when, Uh, what was the bad guy's name? I can't remember when he, when he got right behind him. He goes, I used to fuck guys like you in prison. It's like, Wait, what?

Yeah, good luck coming back from that one. Okay, bars, Uh, somebody? asked me on Twitter after the fight cause.

I said that John Jones was an inspiration to cocaine users everywhere. Yeah, who would be your goats, your your Mount Rushmore of cocaine athletes? Lawrence Taylor?

LawrEnce TayLoR Definitely, yeah, Maradona, Maradona is on there.

David Bowie, although he became a Nazi when he was deep in coke. As one does. Athlete, Yeah, I know, but he like in terms of just like great careers, he was kind of, he was kind of an athlete.

Oh, he fucked Mick Jagger, right? Yeah, he did. I read a story once to David Bowie. For like, two years of his life, all he ate was hot peppers and milk, cause that was all he could suck.

Cause he was so addicted to cocaine and so they would just feed him milk like whole milk, cause he was like a baby. The milk was to take away the sting and the hot peppers, and the milk was also just to keep him alive.

Jesus, that's weird. I would put the entire 1980, was it the 86 Mets? Yeah, oh yeah.

Dale, Strawberry and Doc, the entire 86 Mets are up there. Michael, Irvin, Michael Irvin. Good call.

Rob Ford You remember when he dropped back to throw that dime? Athlete, total athlete? Uh, well, no, I was going to say something, but I'm not going to say it.

Okay, yeah, and I think, you know what I was going to say, I have a pretty good idea, yeah.

All right, so that was good by us, that's growth by us. Yeah, um, all right, let's let's take a break and we'll do, uh, we got some more stuff to talk about.

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Moments there for Jaw, Yeah, so he was, um, on an Instagram live at the club, I don't know where I think he was. Had a game in L.A. Denver, Denver, okay?

So it was, it was strip club flashing a gun, I'll just say, all right. So, outside of, you know, the the seriousness of what's going on in John Morant's life, that was a pussy ass gun to flash. So that thing was so small, I agree.

I've got like, I it was, we all agree, right? I've got three major issues with the Instagram live. Um, one was that his gun was, it was half the size of Derringer, it was tiny.

You can't be flexing, that's not cool, you can't flex a tiny gun like that. You got to have like a desert eagle, you have to have something sick that you're shooting off.

That's issue number one. It would be a big like, was it worth it if it was like, a huge, awesome gun? I'm not, I'm not a gun guy, but I still be like, Okay, maybe you could talk. That was 100 no. It'd be cooler if he was like flexing a taser or a big knife.

Yeah, or one of those gel shooters we had in the office. Yeah, yeah, or a nerf gun.

Actually, somebody should do that, yeah, just like flex it. That sounds like something Yannis would do is like, remake that video, except you get a sick nerf gun.

And everyone would be like, Yannis is the best and he's so funny, we love him. So issue number one was the tiny little gun. This is a cute little guy.

Uh, issue number two is that he was streaming himself live. If you're a professional athlete, you should just never go live anyway. There's no reason you're live all the time for your job. It's called playing the sport, there's no need to go live.

Too much bad shit can happen when you go live. Issue number three is Paul Pierce. Yes, issue number three was he had his shirt off and nobody else had their shirt off. At the strip club. I don't know if jaws confused about what happens at a strip club, but traditionally, you don't go to a strip club to take your shirt off.

That's something that usually happens around you with others. Okay, only counterpoint on that. If I had a sick body and was as rich as John Morant and had awesome chains I spent a lot of money on, I'd probably take my shirt off a lot. I would not.

I would just never wear a shirt, yeah, so just be just be shirtless all the time, right? But it's, it's, it's definitely so.

He's taking two games away, I believe. Um, to work on his posting live selfies of gun addiction, he deleted his Instagram, he deleted his Twitter. What are you gonna say, Billy? What did he do wrong?

So it's been a long list of things. So it's it's funny because everyone not funny. But there's been a lot of. John Morant is surrounding himself with the wrong people talk, and it's really just John Morant seems like he's the wrong person right now.

He's losing it, he? So. He had an incident at the mall where I think his mom got in an argument with someone. And then he showed up with his friends and pushed a mall security officer. He had an incident at his house where he, uh, allegedly punched a 17 year old in the face, uh, multiple times. And then also allegedly came out with a gun in his waistband. Being like, not really like putting his hand on it, being like, you know? But again, he might've also just been shirtless, and that's why you can see the gun.

He wasn't, maybe not trying to display the gun. He had an incident, uh, where his former, I think, high school teammates, Devante Pack, one of his best friends, basically went on the court. In the Pacers game and then afterwards, the Pacers alleged that someone shined a laser that was attached to a gun in the Pacers bus. Like, they basically had, like, a, like, a, uh, we're coming for you after this game and then this, so it's been. It's one of those things where there's a lot of, like small incidents where he hasn't gotten any trouble.

But if you're a fan of John Morant, if you're a fan of the Grizzlies, fan, the N.B.A. It definitely is like, something's got to change. If you have, cause we're going down a bad path. If there's three headlines that coming out about you in the span of maybe a month and a half, two months. That all involve an incident with a gun, might be time to just maybe step away from the gun life for just a little bit. And it's sad because Jaw, if you look at his contract, he stands to make $300 million at the end of the season. All Jaw has to do is to just not get arrested for three months.

Right, that's it, three months and you get $300 million now. If I had as much money as John Morant has right now, and I was his age, I'd probably around a lot. Might get in some trouble, but he just John Morant just needs to lock himself in a room.

You can even take the rest of the year off, right? If you're John. I know that the Grizzlies probably would not appreciate that, but you have three months until you become a 300 millionaire. That's grandkids, grandkids, grandkids, yes.

Grandkids money, yes, and it's. I brought up the the the line that a lot of people in using is like, he's surrounding himself around people. I think that's a lazy take. Like John Morant is, I would imagine, the alpha of his friend group.

He is the guy who has all this talent, who has all these things to lose, no one else around him has all these things. Like he. He can dictate his surroundings. This is it. We shouldn't be like, Oh man, pick better friends.

Like John Morant, you have to pick better choices. Yeah, and I don't want to sound preachy because I do love watching him play basketball and he's very young. They're not, you know, he's, he's not like 18, but he is. He's got a lot of career left. Like, there's a lot of time for him to write whatever's going on right now and have it be a very small blip on his career. Being like, Oh, yeah.

Remember that year that John Morant had, like, three gun incidents? That's crazy. He went to the Hall of Fame and won a bunch of titles and MVPs and everything like that is very much on the table and what I'm hoping happens. But yeah, not good. So to answer your question, Billy, I don't know about what the state gun laws are in Colorado.

That's where it was, Denver, right? But I know, I know in Texas, a lot of bars have this sign up that say, if, like, 51 of your revenue comes from alcohol, then you're not. It's a felony to carry a gun in that establishment, so different states have different rules about, like where you can bring guns. I don't know what the rules are in Denver, it might be against the law there.

It might not be. I don't know, I'm ignorant about that, but I do know that if I'm, I'll even take it back if I'm John Morant. Just don't go live on Instagram with your gun. You also might've brought it on the team plane, which is something they're looking at, which would be a much bigger problem, yeah.

CoLOrado You don't need a permit to carry a handgun. Okay, well, you definitely don't need a permit to carry. Whatever the fuck that P shooter was. It's a strip club gun, yeah.

They give it to you when you walk in. Yeah, the gun was sticky, he had like, just retrieved it from somewhere, yeah.

Imagine if it was like, like, Uh, like, a fake gun to take tequila shots out of. Yeah, I'll just got confused. That's what he should do, he should be like either.

Yeah, either it's a sex toy, or it's just like a novelty gun. Yeah, but uh, yeah, John Morant's got a, I mean, good, good first move by deleting Twitter and Instagram.

That feels like a smart move. And then someone, maybe Plexo burst, needs to sit him down and be like, Hey dude, you got a lot of money and this is dumb. Yeah, it's very dumb, like.

He has a lot of money, but he stands to make a ton, a lot, lot of money, not forget the money. He's like one of the most talented guys in the N.BA, like, that's, that's really. The what's at stake here is like, your talent could be wasted if if things go bad and you're not in the league, yeah.

So figure it out, dude, yeah, figure it out John Morant, yeah.

BILLY Last thing on the. I'm standing behind John Morant through these difficult times. By the way, I just want that clear. Okay, he was, he was a recurring guest. I think he's got to figure some things out. I'm not going easy on him, but I am hoping for a redemption arc and I'm not going to write him off forever.

You think his dad's giving him that tough love, cause we said that his dad was his biggest hater. His dad should just make fun of the size of that little tying gun. Yeah, I know we joke about that, but reply, reply.

Guy said that like, you want to carry a small gun in a strip club, because if the gun's too big when you're getting like, flat. Like this was on Twitter. He was like, it might go off, you might shoot the strip, so like, Yeah, so they're like, that was his strip club, yeah.

So it's like, it's a strip, that's also that's also a problem. Because if you have a strip club gun, that means you have a gun for everything, you don't just have a strip club gun, yeah.

That's not just like, Oh, I own one gun, it's my strip club car on the way to the airport gun that you have. Yeah, you have your practice gun.

You think John Morant, your game gun Saturday night ABC Special game gun, you think job like carries a gun in his or has carried a gun in his? Like warmups during pregame, I mean, that would really be putting Adam Silver to the test, it really would, but yeah, John Morant, there was a moment on Saturday.

I want to say where John Morant and Jackson Mahomes were both trending. And you're like, Okay, so this would be one of those days. Welcome back to the internet. I hope, I hope Job figures it out and I hope that he this is where you stand behind him. I'm completely standing behind Job.

I think he's got some things that he needs to work out. Yeah, um, but I I think that it's something that can be very easily corrected, correct, and that's just don't, maybe don't carry guns everywhere.

Yeah, we're not going to be the old men who's like Yellow Clouds being like John Morant, kick them out of the league. Yeah, I mean, I literally had an illegal gun here in New York City for like, four years. After the Houston Super Bowl. That I finally came to my senses and took to the police station, yeah.

So job, listen to PFT, it's not a joke, except for one PFT did it, cause, yeah, it was a bit.

So job, maybe you just say it was a bit that you were doing a podcast and start a podcast, and, uh, yeah, listen, I've been in your shoes. John Morant, I know what it's like to be you right now. And my best advice would be to just put it in a backpack and take it to a police station and get a $200 voucher for it. Yes.

Yes, he needs a gun guy. No, no, no, no, no, but but no. Because if you have a gun guy, that means you eventually you're going to be like, hand me my, hand me that gun. You need to get a rebound for him when he goes to the gym.

Yeah, what, you need to get a rebound for him? Yeah, but not a not a gun guy.

Right, not a gun guy. exactly. he's a trainer, personal chef, mental health coach. not a gun guy. any of those could be a gun guy.

No, but if you have a gun guy, the same problem happens because the gun guy always has multiple guns. You can be like, pass me one of those, yeah, let me, let me hold that one, yeah.

John Morant should actually just say that he is. He's going into therapy for a gun addiction. Yeah, he's addicted to having a gun, holding a gun, not using a gun. yeah, just holding it.

Maybe he gets anxiety without it. Yeah, it's like, that's actually a thing, it's like an emotional support gun, it's like a Paul Peer.

I mean, Paul Peer's kind of the same thing. He's like, I got stabbed and I carried a gun around for a while after. Yeah, well, that that kind of makes sense. John Morant has not been stabbed.

No, I also understand the need for people like that are that young and that rich to have a gun to protect themselves. Because they are your mark, they're a target. And people that you used to be friends with a long time ago and might not be friends with anymore. They might have it in for you, so I get it.

I'm just saying, for job for the next three months, just just go cold turkey off. Guns, no guns, no guns. you got this. actually, you might need a gun in Memphis. No, no.

Again, Billy, I just tried it. But Billy sounds like he's like auditioning to be one of John Morant's friends, where he can just explain away everything. Hey John, I know that, like you told all your friends, like, no guns, but I know you better than they know you. And like, I got you, I got you. By the way, the incident where he punched a 17 year old kid on his basketball court, Uh, John Morant said that he was like the the police officer asked, like, who threw the first punch?

He's like, Well, I did, but he threw the ball and hit me in the head, so I count that as the first punch. That is assault, assault. Okay, yeah.

This is again also 17 year old kids, not a kid. No, I agree, I agree if he's playing basketball in the face, but I think it was like, Oh, he punched a little kid. I think one punch in the face can happen on a basketball court.

What was said is that there were multiple punches, even when he was down. And then going into your house to get your gun, that feels, uh, oh, that that's too much. I think that's agreed. That's not like, hey, let's just, hey, guys, let's cool out and like, check up who's ball? I need to see the stats on the 17 year old, like.

That's important in this, in this story. He's technically a minor, so he they never released his name, but he is, he was. He was invited to a basketball game where he was playing defense against John Moran. So I guarantee he's a good basketball, probably a big guy, probably a guy who's probably going to be playing Division One basketball again. You should not hit a 17 year old.

Right, usually, unless that 17 year old threw a ball at your head, if it was, if it was one of those fouls. Where, like, you're going up and he pushes you in the back, then I think it's allowed or undercuts you. Yeah, yeah.

That's it tries to get up on underneath your feet when you're shooting a three, that's how people get hurt. Or if he grabs your knee and breaks the code right now, we're doing it now, you can't break the code.

Have you played basketball in the high school recently? I have not, I'll be honest. They like, wear air pods while playing in the game is the most annoying thing ever. How many high schoolers is one high schooler?

No, this is like multiple. And like, you're trying to yell out picks and stuff. And they have an air pod in while they're playing, playing music. And you're like, it's like, they think they're like, I, you know what that is that I w? My initial like reaction should be, Fuck that kid.

Basketball's not enough. And then I just think of, like, when I'm watching a movie and I'm just staring at my phone, it's like, Yeah, yeah. The reality is, you need multiple things going on. It made me feel old as hell, that, like young kids, were doing something that I just felt so like, foreign to me.

If we were in high school, I w I like to hate on those people. But I would definitely be wearing an ear pod or an ear bud while I was playing. They didn't even have headphones when you guys were in high school. Speaking of ear pods, uh, air pods, uh. Hank tried to poor shame me when we went to Indy, cause I have cord.

Uh, I was just surprised, Uh, they. The microphone is way better when you're calling people, doing radio hits. And also people don't bother you when they see the court and you don't lose them. I was on a streak where I lost them, I don't know, I lost like four pairs in in about three months.

It done. I'm on such a high streak with my current earbuds. Knock on wood. I've had them for like, nine months. This is the longest I've ever kept anything in my life.

So Hank, Uh, should we talk about Anthony Richardson? I'm kind of offended that's wasn't the start of the show, or once in a generation talent showed out, showed out his stats. Yeah, I don't know how you can be a GM and not risk everything to get him.

Number one, uh, broke the record for verticals, for quarterbacks in the combine. So, uh, pretty crazy because he broke the record. Uh, the previous eight guys, Josh Portis, uh, was second, uh. He played at Cal California University of Pennsylvania. I didn't know that existed.

Oh yeah, Penn West, Uh, Brad Smith. So these are some Hall of Famers that he beat out. R.G. Three, Tim Tebow, Nick Marshall, Tyrod Taylor and and Byron Bennett. So you can illustrious grouping. He's in, I'll say this.

If you completely ignore all the times that he's played football, he's the can't miss prospect. It is just from a a measurement standpoint. I will say that whatever like, there's a crazy combine stats. I do like to just look at them all and be like.

Is a dude who is a guy from once in a generation, talent? Who was the guy from Georgia? I think he's from Georgia. The defensive lineman that ran like a four, three, nine.

Yeah, fuck that, yeah, crazy, fuck that.

We also had a a four, two, seven from from a DJ turner from Michigan, which is great. Like, I know that the times have been getting lower and lower, but it's still nuts. Whenever anyone runs, I always like, my eyes pop out whenever anyone runs under a four, four, yeah.

I'm like, Holy shit, or when, when a fat guy breaks five, it still blows my mind. Yes, yes, there was also some news from, Uh, I think, Rappaport tweeted out. Florida offensive tackle Richard Garage Richard Gorge came into the combine healthy but woke up with a swollen ankle after a pain tolerance test created an injury.

Sources say he'd been planning to do all drills, but now he won't be able to. Thanks to the situation caused during his medical exams, a team gave him a pain tolerance test. Ooh.

At first when I read that, I was like, that seems insane to do that, but then I thought about it. I was like, actually, yeah, like you, you get hurt a lot in the NFL. I want to know what this pain tolerance test was like. What are they poking a needle?

I was going to, okay this, I didn't say this, so it's not mean for what I'm about to say. I would say they could have just played Billy's three hour podcast, solo podcast Pain Tolerance. That's true.

Yeah, that would be a good pain. That's against the Geneva Convention. If you are, if you are, that would be an all time page. I'm like, I just just sit them down and be like, all right here. Here's some headphones and just walk out of the room and be like, What the fuck am I listening to?

For pain tolerance, you do have to know if they're going to be mentally prepared to play on the Falcons. Yes, that would be good to know. Going into, like, how much shit can you eat?

Okay, yeah, the jets can take you. Now. I feel like pain tolerance tests is is pretty straightforward.

It's like, shut your finger in a car door, bang your shin on a low coffee table, step on a LeGo, step on a LeGo. That these are all real pain tolerance tests that we go through. I just imagine, like Mark Davis in the In the Raiders draft room, they've just got a. It's like a scene from Jackass, where they have a hotel room and it just covered in. Mousetrap. Yeah, and in order for him to walk over and shake your hand, he has to get past all the stress, yes.

It's just a yeah, we just played Jackass for a day. Yeah, yeah. I mean. Pain tolerance could also just be max out on squat and then just sit on a toilet and you have to wipe like, a hundred times. Don't cry.

Wait, are you standard? No, I sit, sit to wipe. No, I'm saying, but like, you know, when your legs are just in, you're just like, so sore. Yeah, yeah.

Just something like that pain tolerance. It does make sense. But it sucks that this guy's not going to be able to work out because some team pushed him too far. Actually, that might be on him.

He should have tapped, Yeah, you get a tap that's on. Taps are allowed at any time.

Yes, yeah, um, and then Bryce Young got measured, so Bryce Young, uh, five, 10 and a quarter, two, oh four. So whatever he did, it worked to get above 200..

You just couldn't have a one at the start of that number, it was it was basically his agent. And nutritionists were like, if we can just get to the exact same height and weight as Kyler Murray, people will just say, Oh, he's Kyler Murray. Even though we watched him play and he did not play at 204 pounds, no, and they're also they're very different quarterbacks.

And how they? But I did, I actually ran the BMI on Bryce Young for his exact height and weight 29.3. He's borderline obese, he's too fat to draft. This guy's, this guy's a tub of shit.

How pumped must he have been when he got off that scale? He's like, Oh, I don't have to eat a hundred, like 10,000 calories day. Oh, that's like three gallons of water. I chugged before I got on here, he probably sprinted to the bathroom, ran to go take a piss.

They were probably feeding him like force-feeding him, like a goose that you're trying to turn into foie gras. Before this weigh-in, just drink all the water. Probably ate dessert for breakfast. Sounds sounds like my life, yeah.

I would be really good at loading up for the combine, I would this is, this would be my pre combine preparation, would be where I would truly excel to try to gain. Yeah, if you got, if they gave you two weeks, how much weight do you think you could put on it? Cause I think I realistically, I think I could put on 25 pounds in 30 plus.

No problem? Yeah, no problem, I do today.

I went to, I took my kids to the ice cream museum at 10 a.m. And we got, like, through the first door and they started handing us free ice cream. And I was like, Shit, why did I do 10 a.m. for the ice cream museum? It's awesome history of ice. It sounds like something that a parent would make up to their kids.

Like, hey, if you get straight A's, we're going to the ice cream Museum, check it out. It actually like it ruled, but yeah, how, no disrespect, but how fat you dragged your kids along with you. No, there was a lot of kid friendly shit.

There was a whole pool of sprinkles, how they got to jump in, how fat, plastic. The other parents that were there that were taking their kids to the ice cream museum. No, everyone was, everyone was fine, everyone was fine. Cause I'm a fan of a lot of things, but I don't know that I go to museums for them.

No, the ice cream Museum. I'll have some people backing me up. I listened, there was one guy, one dad. I always have these moments when I'm out at these things, and one dad was like, Hey man, like, just getting through it.

Love your work. And I was like, Thanks bro, that's nice. Yeah, we used to live in the dream.

We used to work in the Dream at the Ice Cream Museum at 10 a.m. We used to work right next door to the Museum of Sex in in. Uh, HQ too. Yeah, but the even being a horny guy, the fact that the word museum was on there, he kept me away from it, yeah.

Uh, I had four cups.

It was all free after you got, I mean, the tickets were expensive, but then it was free. This is actually genius. All-inclusive ice cream. Yeah, tickets are expensive.

Was it interactive? It was very interactive, It was extremely interactive. History of ice cream. I would go to a case.

I know facts you guys don't fucking know anymore. I'll go to a queso museum. When was it invented? History of ice cream? Oh, the ice cream.

Like, it was like, I didn't read any of shit, it was like 600 or something. That's like the one thing that you should learn at the ice cream Museum, the Carvel guy invented soft serve, okay?

What's, uh, what's the most ice cream anybody's ever eaten? Probably me at the History of Ice Cream Museum, cause I wasn't four, yeah.

What was the bathroom? I lied about that? what was the bathroom situation? how many rooms were there? Cause?

There was a shitload of rooms, so that's how much ice cream it was fun. You guys should go, don't hate it.

I'm not hating it, it's just very funny that you're like, I took my kids to the Ice Cream Museum at 10 a..m. Yeah, no, that part was a mistake, but it's when it opened, so I was like, fuck it, let's go.

Yeah, Bryce Young should go to the ice cream Museum, keeps that two, oh four on. I've always argued ice cream is should be a breakfast staple.

It's kind of like anytime. It's way better than like these sugary cereals, and it's got way more protein and stuff like milk. Yeah, you ever eat like the fake low carb ice cream? No, it's gross.

It's really gross. I halo top. I had an idea a couple years ago. Yeah, but you do not feel guilty, yeah.

Shut up. But I had an idea. A couple of years ago that was just like ice cream, it was just to sell, like healthy ice cream, and then it was just full ice cream. But nobody would ever know, cause you wouldn't list that.

On the nutrition, you'd be like, Oh, it's totally healthy, low sugar, but just make it full blown, absolute custard that you're selling. But then somebody told me that Seinfeld invented, It was a Seinfeld episode.

Yeah, when all were gaining weights, weight with the frozen yogurt. Yeah, but yeah.

Check it, I'm I'm giving stamp of approval. History of Ice Cream Museum. Uh, okay, anything else that we missed this weekend?

Uh, yeah, the The Sun's beat the Mavs. Oh yeah, that was yeah. And then Luca at the end. This is an all time quote from Luca Dantic.

He, he was mad that Kevin Durant waited until the last second to talk trash to him. Yeah, once the Sun stuck the lead, which is, you typically do talk trash when you have it. I guess his thing was like, it takes a real man to talk shit when you're losing, yeah.

Which, I guess fair point, yeah, but yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you, you? They took the lead and he missed. Luca missed a easy layup.

Yeah, talk some shit, but I mean, I don't think most people don't talk shit when they're losing. Yeah, pat, Pat probably probably talks more.

Yeah, Luca and, uh, Devin Booker almost kissed. It was, uh they. It was a very odd, uh standoff where they both were smiling, uh, but Luca does have it.

Like, I know, Kevin Durant's now on the Suns, but he did bounce him from the playoffs last year. Yeah, so he does kind of have that over them. I'm still, I'm all in on these sons.

I am, I am Chris Paul getting that ship this year. Paul had a had a real insult tweet. Hold on, let me see if I can find it about, uh, where, where the sons are at as a team.

Hold on, it was so after the game. Yeah, here it is. It's from Bobby Marks, uh, who I think works for ESPN, very smart guy, NBA front office, uh, like insider, he said. Fourth quarter, Uh, for Chris Paul and Ish Wainwright 14 points, four for six from three. As great as Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. Are this team stink sinks or swims, based on the rest of the roster? So Chris Paul and Ish Wainwright are now the same same guy.

Yeah, it's tough, you can't do it all by yourself, sometimes you need ish. It's also just a very funny thing to say, because, like, yeah.

Uh, breaking news. Your two best players can't score all the points, but they can try, yeah, and and they sometimes almost can. Like. The game was close because Tim Hardaway went nuclear from three at the beginning of the game in the fourth quarter. Well, no, I'm saying the on the map side, so every team has this.

Yeah, we have other guys to score a little, you have other players on the team that contribute for sure. Yeah, I just I don't see a way that Chris Paul loses this year.

I don't see it well. Uh, I, so that was gonna be my who's back. Is the N.B.A. just doing a really good job with these like marquee match-ups now that we're out of football season? Because Max Saturday night, the the The Sixers hank, would you like to say thank you?

Oh no, why? Because the Sixers beat the Bucs and the Bucs and the Celtics are fighting for the for the one-seater. And it was a great comeback. James Harden.

I think she's 38.

Yeah, it was. You don't want to say thanks, no at all.

No, either way, these marquee match-ups, like I watched that whole game, it was awesome. Same so good job by the NBA.

Uh, okay, you're losing to the Knicks right now, I know, okay, Pft.

I'm sorry to say James Madison has been eliminated, all right. The 30 year drought continues South Alabama. The eighth seed is going to move on to the championship. It's bullshit that their initials are USA and the crowd chants USA for him.

You can't root against that. 75-66 Jaguars Tough, tough break, always next year for the Dukes. No pizza party, though.

So I save a couple thousand bucks. Yep, can I, can I say something real quick? I bet on South Alabama because you bet on Purdue, okay?

Whatever, it was a revenge bet for me, all right, whatever, I support Wisconsin.

I support your bets, I didn't say till after, but you did bet on Purdue. When Wisconsin had to win that game, I also bet on the Eagles, they had to win that game, I also bet on the Eagles.

No, you didn't, Hank shut up. Um, you didn't, they didn't, I did.

Yeah, hank put $3, $3, $3 future. Yeah, I did want James Madison, although you said, What if we just play in the Nit Wisconsin versus James Madison?

So I think I think that James, you would have had to win this game and then probably play a great game in the finals and lose to even.

That's bullshit. What about the CBI? We could beat in the CBI? That would actually be very fun. We're losing to Minnesota right now.

There could be CBI all over. You're getting into the nit, there's a rule that if you're a mid-major one seed and you get bounced, you're an auto bid to the nit. So Southern miss, they're taking that from us.

They're going to be in the nit. That's a bad rule. damn, that is a bad rule. Let the kids play it out on the court.

Yeah, the CBI CIT Wisconsin might make the CBI, that'd be great, so if we played in the CBI, what a game.

I love the CBI, I bet the CBI all the time. Was that the one that the trophy used to be a pineapple? I can't remember, I don't. That might've been the other one.

The like J.V CBI, I think the CBI and the CIT are the two tournaments where I can confidently say. I've bet on almost every game. And I think I've watched none of them. So I don't, I don't, I don't have any memories of watching a CBI game, betting on them, yes.

Updating a score app. Yes, CBI and CIT shout out the golden pineapple, there it is.

The Golden Pineapple Uh, wait, that might be a rivalry trophy. in college football. There was a pineapple, there was a pineapple trophy, trust me on that one.

I trust you, okay, I trust your memory. Bonk. fuck yeah.

Why I was about to say, Isn't that a bonk? Yeah, that's a bonk. Why just is?

Hank, did you ever bonk yourself? Bonks are out of control right now. What happened? What did we? Hank had a bonk off air that he had to do, and he forgot what, what was it?

Fuck, he's going to kill me now, was Hank in mourning in Indy?

God damn it. Oh yeah, yeah. Hank's a big fan of the Kay Adams show. Oh yeah.

That's right, that's right he got, yeah, you told us all about it, how you watch it all.

You watch literally four hours of it. Once, yeah, and then, uh. And then Hank said that Pete made him watch it, and that's why he was watching it for, like, homework. And then I texted Pete and I was like, Did you tell Hank to watch this?

And Pete was afraid I was mad at him because you were watching a competitor's live stream. And and I was like, No, Hank just told me that you told him to watch it. He's like, Oh, no, absolutely not. That didn't happen. Just be on the lookout. Because Kay Adams are usually usually retweet like a few dudes, being like, Hey Kay, you look awesome today.

That's probably Hank's partner. Yeah, always. Like, when it's the egg accounts, it's just a picture from across a room of Kay Adams eight in the morning.

Like, Oh, you look so hot talking football, that's hank, yep. This is one of the more outrageous twisting of words that I've been a part of, and I won't forget it. I won't.

Oh, you won't, it's not. What are you going to do? Hank? I eat shit all the time because you guys out bogusly claim that I'm horny, yeah.

The pineapple doesn't even make up. Things that you said and then repeat them as if they're fact. This is what did you or did you not? Everything down and watch a Kay Adams show. Everything we said was a direct quote. Yeah, no, that's not true, but that's fine.

How much? How many hours straight did you watch? Kay Adams? Zero? That's a, That's a. that's a lie. I noticed that when I declared my masturbation strike against Dan Snyder, you did not say I'll match, I did not.

Also a little cleanup on the Schefter show on Friday. Hank, Uh, did better. Commander's Future. Yep, that sucks. Yeah. Great interview, by the way.

Great interview that sucked to win the Superbowl, No left hand up. What if it happens to win the Superbowl?

Oh, no, what if it happens, though, Hank? And we're geniuses, and then everything's happy. If there ever a cash out pops up, it's I'm cashing out. Well, you have to be an Indiana. Oh, great.

Hey, hey, crazier things. It's kind of nice to get one surefire loss out of the way before the season even starts, though. Just flush it out of your system. Yeah, just let's get get one out of here.

I know I'm probably going to lose week one anyways. Let's get one off the board. It's not a big deal. Um, okay.

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Okay, who's back the week? Oh, we just fired through all mine. I had, I had John Jones, Anthony Richardson, John Morant. But I will say those Golf the Golf Club covers are on sale, they're very, very nice.

Mountains are blue. Visors also straight drives only with that cover. It's crazy. First time we've ever sold visors, sold the visors. I love the visor.

PFT tried to say he's never worn a visor before, which is just I couldn't remember an accurate statement. I couldn't remember a time that I've ever worn a visor, except for right now. You were born to be a visor guy. Yeah, was I?

You have visor, face, barstool, sports visors. Yeah, I like it. I did wear a visor when we were with Marlins Man at the All-Star game.

You guys pointed that out. But besides that, I don't think I've ever worn a visor. It looks great. It's just something that I've never gotten into. Maybe I'm a visor guy, although as my hair gets thinner, I am going to need some top.

What if you made a visor that had a full top enclosed on it? Though they definitely have Guy Fieri, I think you're wearing that, it's called a hat.

Yeah, I might be a hat guy. you're a hat guy, I'm a hat guy, is that it?

That's it all right, my who's back of the week I'm going to need? It's a team effort, this is a team effort.

Need your support, and awls, I need your support as well. My who's back of the week is Leroy? Yes, the breaking news dog.

Yes, my old dog, R.i.p. Leroy, passed away about two years ago. He was our insider here. On part of my take, he broke some pretty big news stories and scooped the big J's on a number of them.

Schefter poked the bear when he fucked with us on Friday Show when he tried to pull the wool over our eyes and pretend that Lamar Jackson was going to the commanders. I was perfectly fine leaving Leroy on the sidelines. And then whenever I get a new dog, maybe that dog can learn how to break news, too. But fuck you, Schefter.

You've made a powerful enemy in Leroy. I reactivated his account. it's Ghost of Leroy. So now, my dead dog, we're making it a mission for my dead dog. To beat Schefter on at least two scoops this upcoming free agency season. Don't send them fake scoops.

Do not, that's what I'm saying. It's a team effort. Hank We want this to be a success. And he's good at figuring out fake scoops.

So he's at Leroy Insider. And the beauty of the show is. We have so many people that work in like semi-related capacities to some of these transactions that are going on that we have. He's got like a 60 40 track record and putting out good scoops, which is that's not bad. It's better than throwing darts at a dartboard. So Leroy's back, he's going to try to break the Aaron Rodgers news.

You know what? He should just break the Aaron. We should just say like, he's coming back to the Packers. Yeah, and then it's like 50, 50..

That'll be right, yeah, why not? What's what's the downside? There's none.

Right, because who cares if my dead dog was wrong about something, and if the upside is incredible, is a dead dog scooped? The entire NFL on this? Uh? Leroy was fond of a darkness retreat.

He was blind, you know what Leroy is? First Report Adam Schefter Adam Schefter is late on this news.

Aaron Rodgers is returning to the Green Bay Packers for the upcoming season. Damn it, I have to respect it, it's ruined, I'm sorry.

He cares about one thing the truth. Damn um, all right, welcome back.

We, we got to fuck Schefter. Yeah, we're going to fuck him good right in the fucking, I'm going to. I'm going to come right in his eye.

I'm going to come, yeah, we're also going to play a golf with Schefter, which is going to be very funny, yeah, like, further cleanup.

On the interview, I can genuinely say, I like Adam Schefter. Oh, I like him a lot. he's a great guy, yes.

No, I, I and I also liked the fact that we can give him shit. Like between now and next year's combine. He will do something that I will make fun of him for. And like Drag, and he won't take it personal. No, he won't. That's like the perfect part of my take relationship. Yep, um, okay.

My who's back of the week? It was going to be the NBA, cause the N.BA is very back. Also, check out this shirt if you're watching on YouTube. Uh, what, stand up?

It's my, uh, just cover. It's the mantra for for March. Make your free throws, attack the rim, run the floor, close out, hit your jumpers and remember they're just kids, because, remember, they are just kids.

But my Who's back the week is Travis Kelsey and SNL. I didn't watch, but I saw a clip and I laughed. I saw a couple of clips too. I laughed at the clip, I thought it was funny.

The Uh, there was a skit that was, I think, cut because of I don't know when they run long, cause it's a live show. Uh, it was guys that you can hire to pick up your girlfriend. Oh, that didn't make it in the show. That was the clip I saw, yeah.

It was funny, so didn't even air. Girls that want to be like, picked up and thrown around by their boyfriends. If you're dating a small guy, Travis Kelsey will come over to your house and just throw you onto a counter. Yeah, like, I, I, I hate the, uh, their sports on, bro.

What are you watching, people? But when people were tweeting about Travis Kelsey last night while the UFC had a great card and Max ruined the UCLA season, I was like, What are we? What are we doing, guys? There's sports, there's sports on right now, we can watch this later, uh, unless you have seven screens.

Yeah, that's true, but I'll see the highlights later. I put SNL on mute and then I just judge it based on that. Yes, bad, bad show.

Yes, but yeah, the the the clip I saw seemed funny. Oh, we didn't talk at all about Tom Brady. Did you see the picture of Tom Brady? Is he okay, hank?

I'm I'm worried about Tom Brady, he's going to have a weird retirement. Good come on, Hank, I mean, he's trying to step on our toes and in the standup comedy arena.

It looked like, I guess that's kind of our toes. You're getting into the plastic surgery world, you're, you're next. You can't, I will.

It's cool, sculpting, hang, it's not plastic, but you can't judge. I'm not judging, I'm, I'm worried.

He looked Gaunt. Yeah, I like Tom Brady now, but he's. he looks like he's sick. I thought it looked great. How skinny can he get?

He's doing it right now, he's doing a reverse. BRYCE YOUNG Yeah, we'll find out. I'm enjoy retirement.

Okay is, he doesn't know what offensive linemen do. That's really skinny. Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Uh, Billy, my who's back is O.J. Simpson? Oh great, Oh O.J. Simpson. I was kind enough to weigh in on the Alec Murdoch trials, who just got into Murdoch murder. It's pronounced like a thousand different ways.

It's not just Alec or Alec, it's Alec, and sometimes it's Alec. Yeah, it's like different accents.

Really weird, spelled with an X, I know, but they say, Alec, yeah, out murder that I wanted him to cry.

Yeah, I was mad, he didn't cry, he doesn't have a soul. I like guys who I like.

I want my my, uh, double homicide people to cry. Yeah. His strategy, his defense strategy was like, show up looking as ill as possible. Yeah, so you know how they tell, they tell women when they go on trial. Like, put some dire hair as dark as you can, and then put on glasses to make you look like a.

With him, he was like, I'm just going to put on a mask and just be as gaunt as possible. He also the defense strategy. Of all those other things I did, or that you're accusing me of, I did. I didn't kill my my my uh, wife and son, yeah.

How he had, like all the extortion, all the the the financial malfeasance, all the, all those other crimes hand up. That was me. And you know what, the big one you're saying. I didn't do that. I do have a history of hiring Hitman, but in the past, I've only used them to kill me.

Yeah, right, right, Jesus, but yeah.

What'd OJ say? OJ was just talking about how, uh, the judicial system works, and basically how he could get off. Yeah, and it was just it was like one of those, like, Remember when Nate Oates contacted Ray Lewis? Yeah.

It was like, what? like, what the hell this is like a simulation? Yeah, I can't believe the balls on. OJ. To just like to to go online with a video of like, here's my advice if you're accused of a double homicide.

Yeah, I guess he was not guilty. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, good, who's back? Uh, Jake? uh, my, who's back is boomers.

Football season might be over, but we have a best of boomers coming out on YouTube, I believe on Tuesday, so subscribe, check it out. Uh, the behind the scenes crew love it. Great job with that.

Can't wait to see what they picked. Love it, uh? Also, who's back is going to the final four because Syracuse is in the final four for the best bar tournament. Are they going to win an ACC tournament game?

Uh, maybe they got wake, they beat Wake yesterday. Now is Jim Boeheim going to not retire? Uh, I don't know, but they're going to Greensboro. I believe he's made some comments about Greensboro before.

Yeah, just like he hates it, he hates those the comments. I'm a Greensboro.

I don't think he likes the tournament there. I think Jim Boeheim is at the age where he hates anything that's just not his own home. I'm a Greensboro guy, I take that as disrespect.

My family's from Greensboro. You better step the fuck off. Jim Boeheim. Is he still? Is he still like talking about how everyone's figured out his zone and how he's still not going to change it? Hey, they've been to the sweet 16, like three of the last, like, Oh no, you're doing what?

No, don't do that. You sound like Jim Boeheim. Well, here's the thing. The standard is higher at Syracuse, yeah.

The teams that don't see it all the time, their fate, they. So the ACC tournament, yeah, that's probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they've won like one or two ACC tournament games in like 10 years.

Wait, am I crazy? Didn't they move the ACC tournament away from Greensboro? No, it goes back to Brooklyn, Charlotte. Okay, but they're keeping it in the rotation.

It should always, sometimes does Brooklyn, like this year, it should always be in Greensboro? It was always in Greensboro. That's where the ACC tournaments played, yeah.

Yeah, so that's not great, but Syracuse is in the final four. Hashtag Syracuse BBT. Okay, uh, yeah.

What bar? it's just the bar towns this year. Oh, the best bar town. Yeah, okay.

How many? how many bars did you go to in college? Uh, there was a rotation of like three or four, would you say? It's an elite bar town, of course, okay.

Good waters. Oh yeah. the coldest waters. coldest waters light in the state of New York. great waters, light water all the time. Okay, um, all right.

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We now welcome on very special guests. It is the Chicago Bears. Brain trust. Can I say it's the brain trust? No brain trust? Oh, you know, you guys are the brain trust.

Uh, it is. Ryan Polls GM and head coach Matt Eber Flus. We're in Indy, ready to go. Uh, we've got a lot to get to, but I wanted to bring up something before we start. So we've been doing this show for seven years now. This is the earliest we've ever woken up for an interview.

It's 8 00 a.m. So I know you guys are in full combine mode of like, judging the character of a man. And like, their, their get off and their determination. What does that say about us? That we're up this cause, like you don't understand this is the early, like we don't get up this early for interviews.

Yeah, yeah, I would say that it means a lot to us. I mean, you guys, you know, the dedication for you guys to get up, you know, I know you guys went to bed at two in the morning. So man, it is. It is really important to us that you guys have done this for a big dinner last night. Oh, you did.

Yeah, we're still digesting it right now, but you know what it's? It's, you know, dealing with a little adversity right now. You got to have some demonstrate some grit and, uh, and overcome that. So, yeah, I mean, waking up at seven o'clock in the morning is as big of a compliment as we can pay to anybody.

Probably yes. Agreed. Yeah. I think when Brandon hit me up, I was just like any other time, like literally any other time.

Uh, so we're here, we're ready to go. You guys obviously are the talk of the town because number one pick, Um what, let's start here. How many smoke screens should we put out right now? Are we still in smoke screen season?

Or, once Schefter says the number one pick is on the table, smoke screen season is over, it's not over yet. Okay, yeah, just we can keep.

So that thing you were telling me about the Raiders before, that was true. We're not supposed to talk about it. Well, no, I mean, that's smoke screen.

Oh okay, yeah, yeah right, I'm not sure.

Or is it or is it not right? Okay, see, I just got money. No, I got a money to water.

So I like, how does it work when you, when it gets announced, like, Hey, number one picks for sale, uh, you immediately start getting calls. Or was this something? Everyone's been talking and it's fluid the whole time. Yeah, it's been fluid the whole time, and it kind of just builds up. You know, obviously, you know, when everyone gets together, you know, an indie, that's where people start talking, so it's heating up pretty good.

And I think we're in a good position. How many times have you guys watched Draft Day?

Zero. Oh, you haven't an answer, you haven't watched Draft Day. I watched pieces of it, but not the whole thing. I w. If I were in your position, this is probably why you're successful.

And I'm not a general manager. Is, uh, I would just sit down and do all my prep by watching Kevin Costner from Draft day. Yeah, yeah, but I have heard that you guys are are, you know? You're having fun interviews with people, you're bringing them into. Are you in a hotel room?

You got like a suite set up, you're playing putt putt, you're over at Lucas Oil in the suites, the lower suites there, so who's the best at putt putt this guy right here? Okay?

Ian Cunningham made a bomb yesterday. Okay, it was. It was unbelievable. Now we certainly practiced, of course, but we give the players, you know, three putts at it and the coach only gets one. What are you looking for?

Do you want a player to be good at putt putt? Because me personally, I would not want a player to be really good at putt putt. Oh, it depends. You know, the skill, players are pretty good at it. You know, quarterbacks all play golf, you know, a lot of the receivers surprisingly, play golf.

So it was, uh, all the big guys always pick darts, you know? Hey man, give me some darts. And then they find out. It's like, double the length, you know, it's not a normal, I mean, it's a long, it's a bomb shot. So so when you're watching that, um, are you looking for someone who gets like, upset? If they miss it, like I would, if I were, uh, being drafted, I would go in there, I'd miss it.

And I'd be like, Motherfucker, throw the thing and maybe like, I got to control my emotion more. But man, do I play with some edge, like, I would just say that you can see some competitiveness in there with those guys, for sure. Especially when I say, Oh, it's tied now who's going to win?

And then you, we always throw that in there and one more shot. So what are the options that you put out for him? It's putt putt darts and what else, that's it right now? We only got two minutes.

Uh, twister, Yeah, I think that's a little odd.

Between the two of you, who has final say on what on a draft pick? who has final say right here? Yeah, well, you just had final say on that question.

Oh, on the game, you just, you just. You awarded him final say. so when you say that you technically have final say, that's true, you gave him final say.

So essentially, you do okay, well, really. The cool thing is, um, we, we don't really have to worry about that much. Our relationship's awesome and you know, we work through this together, cause it's it's that kind of partnership you gotta have.

Um, cause we want to be on the same page and we talk about developing players all the time. And I think, if if everyone's on board, you're getting buy-in all the way across the organization, right? And the biggest thing with that is that we've spent so many hours and so much time talking about the profile of the player by position, you know, so him and I talk about this all the time. And we see it, you know, eye to eye in terms of what we want to have at each position, what the traits are, what the makeup of the man is. And, uh, that's so important to be on the same page.

And we've spent, you know, we're in, we continue to do it. We were doing it yesterday, you know, talking about that, so it's a it's an important piece to it. Is there one specific trait that you would say trumps everything? is it maybe intelligence, speed?

Like, is there one that it's? It's kind of like a baseline. We need this to even go to the next part of this evaluation. Yeah, it's for us, it's passion for the game. And that's the cool thing about these interviews is kind of once you, you know, break the ice with, you know, the darts and the pup putt. And guys sit down and you throw the film on. You see this body language from the guys, that it's like, different.

They get to the edge of their seat and they see the play and like, damn it, like, why are you? Why did you pick this play? like, you know, a play, this is start yet, right? Like, Yeah, I got beat on this play.

I wish I had that one back where there's other guys, where it's like, you know, just kind of there's no emotions there. So the guys that get to the edge of the seat, they show it, you feel it, you're like, all right, jump in the car. Let's go back to Chicago. Yeah, no, I like that answer, because when you talk to, you know, we get to talk to a lot of players, a lot of successful players.

And a lot of it is like, you have to love football to a point. Because you're going to have to eat some shit and do some things and play through some injuries. So can you? Has anyone in your evaluation career? You don't have to name names? But has anyone able to been able to? Like fake loving football in those moments? And then you're like, you get them on the team. I would say this, there's no faking when you're playing, right?

You know, so we always judge the number. So we look at the tape. The tape tells us passion, the tape tells us love, you know, and then we can figure out, hey, cause we want you to. You know, if you love football, you're going to practice that way too, just shut it on and off, you know, during game time. So, um, that's how we do all the investigative work that the scouts do and spend the whole year doing. And then we're going to do that now.

And we go to the Pro days and all that. So, but, uh, it's always on the tape. Yeah, were you guys watching the Colts Texans game live? I forget if you were playing at that time.

No, we were playing, we were in the locker room. Did you go back and watch the end of that game? And you were like, Holy shit, that's incredible, you know, it's funny.

Like, all that was going on, I kind of got. I was told that that's what happened. And I've talked about this before. I wasn't really in the mood to go there yet, cause it's still a weird thing, right?

Like, you don't want to be the first pick, it's a it's co-op. Disagree? At the moment? Listen, I'll give you a little tip.

I'll give you a little tip, right? There is only one team that can win a Super Bowl, everyone else is a loser, except the team that has the first pick. We are literally the second best team because we have we're the only other team that took something away from this season.

There's the first pick in the Super Bowl, right, that's it, but you've lost to get into that.

No, no, no, we don't worry about the the how we got there. I'm just saying, once you close the book. On this season, only two people are walking away with something in their back pocket. One's got a ring, one's got the first pick.

That's not bad. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not buying it, I'm not buying that one. Listen, you can, you can take my phone number, and whenever you need a spin zone, I'll just I'll whip one right out.

Yeah, right, I got it, yeah, but yeah, so that that happens.

And then are you immediately like, Okay, this is. We did not expect this to happen, cause it was like the bears weren't. It never felt like like the way you kind of figured out the one pick, like sometime in December, but it wasn't. Some of these teams, you know, early on the season, it's like they're going to be the one pick. Like, that's what's happening.

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy how that played out, cause it wasn't until 12 24 hours after I was watching the play. I'm like, holy crap.

Like, that's insane, how it happened. So, yeah, it was awesome, caught everybody by surprise. Yeah, it was a lot, a lot, a lot of fun.

All right, so let's talk about the first pick. Uh, I don't know if you brought a pen and paper, uh, paper, but I have some thoughts. Um, I ran a mock draft. Uh. I'm just going to rip through it real quick and let you know what I'm able to do and see if you can get up to my standard.

Uh, so first pick was traded to the Texans for pick two, 12, 33 and two first rounders next year. Wow, yeah. Then we traded the the the two pick that we got from the Texans to the Seahawks for pick five. 20 and a first rounder next year, then the five pick to the Falcons for eight 44 and a first rounder next year.

And then the eight pick to the Lions for 18 and a first rounder next year, so I ended up with six first rounders next year. Can you think you'd like? It's not that hard, it's not right, just keep going.

Keep trading, keep going, are you? Is there a cap on how many trades you're willing to? There's no cap. Love it.

Yeah, just keep trading, get them all, get all the picks, yes.

Just for two years, get all the picks. But is there like this is very stupid question because we're just dumb fans. But um, like, there is a part of us, uh, fans that like, watch and be like, maybe just keep getting picks and keep trading down. There's gotta be a point where you're like, Hey, we actually need players on the team, correct?

Yeah, so correct. Yeah, yeah, it's. it's a. it's a balance of it, right?

Like, you want to have opportunity, but at the same time you do. Um, you put the players in the evaluations, in these value buckets, right? So you want to be able to play that game. To say, I have this many guys at this level that can impact our team in this round, all right, that's how far we can go back.

So you have to put that into the equation as well. Yeah, uh, I had a red flag that came up. I did my research on you guys, much like you.

Look at prospects that are coming in. Big red flag on this side of the table for you, Mr. Poles. Okay, what do you got?

Uh, your LinkedIn profile still says that you're on the Kansas City Chiefs. Are you not all in on the Bears? Oh, no, attention to detail matters in this league, Mr. Poles.

I don't log into that account much. Oh well, maybe you should, because it's very confusing. There might be some, uh, another GM, might, you know, fire up LinkedIn and be like, I want to, I want to get on there LinkedIn. I didn't find you.

Yeah, yeah, you're all business. Yeah, yeah.

You're a football coach, this guy's out here, he's, he's trying to make connections with people, so you got to get somebody on that. Details matter.

Yeah, we'll clean it up. Reserve ever point. When you guys got hired, like, we were like, this is kind of fucked up. That we just replaced the Matt and Orion, and we're a Matt and Orion. No, it was. It was a little bit weird.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But after that it was just move on again.

You got to understand, these are the things that fans think about. We're very dumb, so these are like, we're like, oh, same names. How does this work?

I did, I did read that, uh, you'd worked with with our friend Rob Ryan for a while, and um, he's all time football guy, just just a total legend.

Was he ever? It's hard to, like, envision him as being a mentor to anybody. Because Rob's just a guy that you hang out with. You know he's a cool guy, but what was that relationship between you and him like? Cause he's a fascinating guy. Yeah, so I was sitting at my desk at the University of Missouri.

I was the D coordinator and assistant head coach at the time, working for Gary Pinkle. And I got a phone call. I picked it up and they said, Uh, it says hello, uh, it didn't say his name, right?

And I'm sitting there talking to this guy and he said, Hey, you know, we're looking to interview, I want to bring you in. We're bringing some college guys and, uh, the coach, the linebackers. And. And then about five minutes goes by and I said, Uh, what, what place is this? He goes, Oh, the Cleveland Browns.

I said, Okay, that's cool, and, uh, he goes. I said, I have to hop and do a recruiting meeting here, uh, you know, at uh, eight o'clock. And so I hopped in there. Then I came back and called him back and he said, Hey, we want to interview you for the linebacker job with the Cleveland Browns.

And I said, Yeah, I'll come in. And so we went in there. And the was a marathon interview, it was with him and Eric Mangini, and it went on forever. I got there at 10, I did not stop interviewing until two in the morning.

Holy shit. And then they offered me the job, you know, at two in the morning, and what they did was. Rob would teach me defenses all day and then after dinner, I had to, like, teach him back to Eric Mangini, so I just did that.

We did it, you know, it took a couple of breaks and, uh, eventually they offered me the job and I took it. If I was in an interview that lasts that long, I would be like, I quit and I don't even have the job. It was fun because it was ball.

You know, we're talking ball the whole time. So it was, uh, to me, it was. It was fascinating to learn a different way to do things and how they did stuff, and, uh, it was pretty cool. Okay, so off that there's a lot of, um, not debate. But you hear different coaches talking like a Bruce Arians would be like, Look, we get in, we do our work, we leave.

Like, that's, that's part, that's what football is. You don't have to sit here until three in the morning and pretend that you're grinding and sleep at the office. What style are you more accustomed to, and how do you run? Like the the coaching staff, everything's going on.

It could go for you as well. Uh, Ryan, where it's like, what's the mantra? Is it you guys are working until, you know, four in the morning, or is it just get your job done and you can go enjoy your life? Yeah, I think that's, uh, you know, you have a schedule and and you know, we start work at six and usually end around 10, 10, 30 at. You know, for the long days, you know, uh, so it's not too much, you know? Then you get to sleep and you're going to have some lack of sleep.

Those first couple of days in game plan days, you know, the Mondays, the Tuesdays, and then once you get the players in, then we start to catch back up on sleep. Uh, but uh. I also understand that each guy and I give them this latitude a little bit. That you know, there's morning guys and there's night guys, you know, there's all. You know, human beings are that way. You know, some guys wake up at 4.00 a.m. some guys like to stay up till midnight, you know, and that's cool.

Uh, just as long as you get your work done. Okay, you didn't give us that latitude, just so we're clear no, you were 8.00 a.m. Yeah.

We're not morning, guys, that's what it is. Yeah, really, a lot of people would hear 8.00 a.m. and be like, That's not morning.

Yeah.

8.

00 a.m. is a normal day. So what about you, Ryan? are you? There's gotta be a point where you're doing scouting and you're like, guys, we've gone over this so many times. Yeah, yeah.

You don't want to overcook it. I mean, there's times where you can overanalyze this thing and start to spin. Um, and you're getting too many opinions. So there's there's a time to shut it down and you feel comfortable. Everyone's on the same page because the way we meet, we're all in the room together.

It's a collaborative deal, and it truly is. I mean, we'll go at it if there's two different opinions, which is fun. Um, but then when we make a decision, everyone's on board. So we, we grind, we sprint and then we try to take some time to gas up so that we have clarity.

We make decisions. Yeah, uh, coach I. uh. I have a red flag for you as well, and I'm not sure if we'll see if it's a red flag. I'm not sure if it's a real fact, but it's a fact that I read on the internet.

So I'm pretty sure it's real. Okay. It says that you have four cats. Oh, incorrect. I have two cats that were adopted when I was in Dallas.

Okay, okay, and named after the movie Frozen Anna and Elsa. Okay, so it's incorrect.

So the four cats thing is, we can dispel that. Don't use your kids to get out of this. No, if you're a cat guy, you're a cat guy. Well, I've been around ladies my whole life.

So I got two daughters and I got my wife of 27 years. So, uh, they are certainly cat people, and now I am a cat person. Can you? Can we say definitively that we're drawing the line at two cats because you get three cats, you might as well have seven, right? You're a crazy guy at that point.

And like, sometimes you look at the cats and you're like, I kind of wish this was a dog. Do you ever do that? No, oh no, I never feel like taking them out for a walk.

No, that's a red flag.

Have you ever asked a player, do you or would you identify as a cat or a dog? Like which one do you like more? That's another classic like GM question that we've heard. I don't think they do, really.

I like it we're talking about, like, you know, the science has moved on.

We've got some advanced stuff now, we're onto, like ping pong balls at a seven 47..

So yeah, so you guys, you don't have the weird questions? it has everyone. I would do the weird question just to see if they react like there's no good answer.

Just see what they say. Just one weird question, you should do it. We'll start throwing it out there. I'm going to think of a weird question they would do.

Or do you like, when you shake their hands, are you trying to out grip them in that initial handshake? are you monitoring how good their grip is? No, man, you should analyze that, because it's you get the whole spectrum, yeah.

Yeah, cause the there's, you know, the soft ones concerning, yeah, and then there's guys that try to break your hand, like, what are we trying to do?

Yeah, what I always look out for is if I do a real nice, firm handshake on somebody. And then they go over the top and you can tell that they're trying to prove something in the handshake. I don't like that, I like just solid handshake, eye contact, two seconds, break it off, clean, we're moving on.

Have you ever had someone throw you the one that goes straight to the forearm? Oh yeah, and you feel like you're in a secret society. Yeah, you're like, what's going on here?

Yeah, I just sort of sweat thinking about that situation, that makes me very uncomfortable. Uh, go ahead, just a real football question.

If we could talk a little ball, how awesome was it when you discovered that Justin Fields is a great quarterback? This year? Um, it was. It was cool to see the maturation, you know, during the course of the year. Um, you know him learning the new offense, you know, and then, you know, midway through, kind of take off, you know. We, you know, scored a lot of points during that time. And he really took ownership of that. And, uh, you know, his leadership just kept growing and growing and growing during the course of the year. So, um, certainly excited about that.

Like I've stated, you know, obviously he has things to work on, like like everybody else on the team does, and uh, to grow into the second year. So we'll, we'll see where it goes. Yeah, was there a point, um, that the switch flipped for the coaching staff as well, cause it did feel like going through the season somewhere around. It was like, around that the Monday night football game in New England, where it was like, Okay, we're going to use him differently and it's starting to be more effective.

Yeah, so we, you know, we had that mini buy, you know? So we had the Thursday game, you know, the Washington game in Chicago. What's that? what happened? who won that game?

I forgot who won that game, yeah, but Fields actually almost won that game. Cause, remember? He had that like 50 yard run in the fourth quarter with like two minutes left, so we kind of won it with cool plays.

Yes, two decent plays at the end to win it. Yep, uh, but uh, yeah. So then we looked at it. And you know, we always do this every single week, but we look at every player.

Okay, what he can improve on, you know, during the course of that time, and then we say, Okay, what's going to be the plan going forward to improve him? And of course, we do that unit, you know, by unit two, offense, defense and kicking. And we just put our heads together, you know, and said, Hey, you know, let's implement some of these things that, you know, enhance his skillset, and, uh, and utilize his skillset.

And, uh, that's what we did. Yeah, it was, I mean, it was. It was very exciting to watch him, you know, grow. And and some of the running plays and I agree, passing we're going to work on. Um, I had a question for you coach, though, about your start.

So Nick Saban coached you at Toledo? Yeah, I mean, that's pretty crazy considering what he's done, what he's accomplished since then. Did you have any idea when you're playing for Nick Saban?

Like, this guy is different than every other coach I've ever been around. Yeah, uh, we. So we started off, uh with the uh. He had a team meeting and he said to us, he goes, What's your about to go through? Cause we're going to start winter conditioning, which is his winning edge program. And he said, It'll be the hardest thing you ever do.

Right, and you know, players are looking around and saying, Okay, you know, sure, sure, right. And then, man, you get up for those 6am workouts and he's got 16 stations that he does.

And by the time we got halfway through it, we had, I think we had eight scholarship. Guys quit so and I had shin split so bad I could barely walk down the stairs. Cause we did it at what's used to be called Centennial Hall, it's the basketball arena. So we would do like, you know, sprint, 300 yard laps, and you do mat drills and different things like that.

And then, um, then we got the spring ball. And, uh, one of the comments that he, you know, I stepped up on a play and I hit the guy for a TFL and I was over, you know, hit him pretty good. And, uh, I look up and coach Saban's over top of me. And he said, Hey, you know, celebrating? He said, Don't worry about that play, worry about the next play.

You know, so he was flipping, you know, one play at a time type of mentality. But you could certainly see in his demeanor and how he operated things and attention to detail. Um, that we were. He was building a champion at that point and I've taken that with me all the way through because he is just outstanding from day one. Uh, from my perspective as a player, uh, you could see that his leadership skills and attention to detail was off the charts. I can tell when you, when you're just talking about hitting somebody, I can tell you miss it a little bit, you miss that contact.

I always do. I'm a. I'm an aggressive person by nature, I love, I used to love. Yeah, we'll see.

I sized up when I walked in. I'm not concerned you missed that contact, right? You know? I? I loved it, I enjoyed that part of the game.

And I like to coach that into the players. Um, you know, I really appreciate guys that like that part of the game, that style, the physical style of it, and I'm always drawn to those guys. Um, when I'm watching the tape, you know, with Ryan, and and it's certainly something fun to, you know, the to enhance in a player. Want to win an easy go golf cart?

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Is there anybody that comes to mind on on the Bears defense that you? Just? You just love watching the film and you're like, you're clapping it up in the in the film room. Yeah, um, Brisker is one of the guys that I love to watch. Because, uh, you know, obviously a great evaluation by Ryan last year. The playmaking ability, but also the hitting, the striking ability. You know, we in our system, we always say quickness, instincts and strike, you know? And those guys that have those abilities are very important to us and that's what we look at for players.

So speaking of playing days, you obviously, Ryan, you played at Boston College? Offensive lineman Do you find yourself, uh, drawing? Does your eye draw to the offensive lineman when you're watching tape? And are you like, have you found yourself being able to be better at grading and analyzing offensive lineman? Because you actually played the position? Yeah, there's just a little details that you're kind of drawn to, and you see, it's it's angles, it's it's feel, the instinct, you know, part of the game. Um, that stands out a little bit more. And over my career, obviously, that starts to bleed into other positions, but it's always starting there. Where you have a good, you feel like you have a good flow.

All right, so you need to have a good offensive line. That's basically what we're. Okay, that's that's. So, speaking of that in the draft, is it best position available, or is it value? Just like we will just take anyone? It's it is value.

Um, and then certain positions are weighted, a little bit different to be stacked ahead of, you know, positions that are smart. What you did, because we can't let everyone else know that's position available. You got to just like, Hey, let's just let's grab anyone. We'll do it. Because you don't want people to be like, Oh, they need this, so we don't. We can jump in front of them.

We're just taking anyone, anyone, any person, even a quarterback. See this smokescreen, yeah.

If you guys drafted, uh, you know, four quarterbacks in the in the first six rounds of the draft, let's get fucking nuts. How would you feel about that? Let's go crazy, Yeah, right.

Right, you have final say right now, just final say them on four quarterbacks, yeah.

Let's get. Expectations are there when you're, when you're taking these calls. And you're obviously hearing from a bunch of teams that are putting together packages, competing so you can move up. You're evaluating everything, are there different teams and general managers that you you see the notification from? You're like, I got to deal with this guy again. Like, are there is there a team that you would prefer to deal the pick to, as opposed to other teams?

No, no, and I got I got good relationships with most of them. So, um, yeah, open to talk to anybody. So would it matter at all if you dealt the pick inside the division?

Yeah, that takes a little, a little more to do that, for sure. There's a premium on that, yeah.

Exactly, I like that big premium, big premium, big premium.

Okay, um, coach, I got a problem. We got to fix your acronyms so you have an acronym hits, is that right?

I do, so. What does it stand for? I don't know, you tell me, okay?

Hustle, intensity, takeaways and taking care of the football and smart, situational football. The T and the S are a lot we got to get it to. Yeah, well, you can do the T, just the ball.

Okay, and then the S can just be smart. Okay, all right.

I mean, you're just getting too wordy. I mean, well, that's what I was saying. I saw it and I was like, I was saying, just do hitting people is the shit hits. I like that, so that's just very easy.

Right off, and then what's? The other one is the M and M principle, right? which I like that one that's motor and mean, okay.

Yep, so which one? which one means more? You need the motor or the mean? Well, you need them both, but which one? If you had to pick one? Cause that's for a defense alignment, yeah, you got to have that.