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We're going to talk about the N.FL draft, we got a couple picks left as we're taping this. What happened in the first round? Winners, losers, draft grades, everything we have. Celtics Sixers finally set Giannis and the definition of failure, some hockey playoffs and Fyre Fest of the week.
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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friyay April 28th and we have the NFL draft first round. I think we say this every year. PFT. But it needs to be said again. I miss the days when it was just all on Saturday.
Dun dun, dun, dun, dun, dun dun. Yeah, I did, too, I did, too, when you could just sit down and binge the entire thing.
And it was just it was truly like an event for freaks and weirdos, because it was like, Hey honey, uh, I got to go watch an entire N.F.L. draft all day long, like, Wait, I thought it wasn't football season. No, no, no, we're going to watch a bunch of 19 year olds get selected for seven hours and we're going to get drunk doing it.
And then we're going to scream at it when you don't pick the right 19 year old. Now I've noticed that the Draft Day takes have starting to reheat. I feel like Draft Day the movie has become more popular. It's called Classic, The farther that we've gotten from Draft Day.
And I always say that Draft Day would be maybe one of the worst movies of all time. If it didn't have the rights to the exact NFL logos and team names, if they had to make up like a fake NFL League, that movie would suck. Turns out that it rocks because it's like, Oh, I recognize the Browns logo. Oh, I recognize the Jaguars logo.
They also were very early to the drone shot. If you do a drone shot of a stadium, I'm in, I'm in. I will watch just as a I will watch just like they should. Actually, you know what, all right?
Genius idea for, uh, any network producer out there. Do drone shots, so like planet Earth, just do drone shots of stadiums. I like that, I mean, literally just an entire documentary of drone shots of like you. You telling me you wouldn't tune in to a show where it's a drone shot of every college stadium in America?
David Attenborough narrated Oh my.
PFT comatose stuck his penis in Las Vegas. Yeah, it would be incredible, it would be incredible.
All right, so we got distracted there for a second. I do think, though, that that I like.
Draft Day now the movie. But it is like, if it's like National Treasure, right? it's like if National Treasure was written in a Buffalo wild wings. Yes, yes.
It's fun to like, um.
All right, so draft. So we have right now two more picks, three more picks. The big story, unfortunately, is We'll Love Us has not been selected yet. Hopefully he gets selected.
He is a awl, he's, he's been on this show we're rooting for. Will I have so people? I think most of America right now is feeling bad for him, which it sucks.
Cause he's in the green room, he's going to get selected. I actually think it's in a weird way, like you can't be a bust if you go, if you don't go in the top 10. So now people won't judge him the same.
Now he has time to flourish, to be, to be, to be a multi Super Bowl winner. He'll probably go to a place.
That has a quarterback in place already. And then he'll get to learn, he'll get to sit behind an established starter. And then he'll get to become. He'll get to blossom and metamorphosis to beautiful butterfly on his own time. I'm sure we find out they are already doing damage control. Because we've seen tweets from Chris Mortenson saying that there were some toe concerns, so once that toe is.
Done, the sky's the limit. But listen, we are nothing but incredibly biased in all of our analysis. And we like, we'll love us. Cause he's a friend of the program, um, and so we will be rooting for him and hoping that everything works out. But I do have a spin zone.
Go, we'll love us to. Sitting in the green room. He's been sitting in the green room for a very long time. I did shoot him. One text of encouragement. Cause it's kind of an awkward spot because you're going to.
Be like, hang in there, bud, did you tell him, like, watch your lips, because people are trying.
To read what you're saying? No. I just said, Hey, just throw on the video of me getting the lottery ball and Hank being salty as fuck. And he responded, Shit, had me crying. What a loser.
So.
He's fine, He's fine, That's good, He's fine. He had a little laugh there.
Spread the love out.
We'll have us. Was sitting in the green room laughing about you not getting the lottery ball. We brought a smile to his face. Is that not good? Yeah, no, it's great, okay?
So I feel like that's.
Yeah, that was a good move. Good job Hank. Yeah. Way to support our friends. You save the.
Guy's happiness today. Good job Hank. Yeah, you're part of the 2023 NFL draft. you can't write the story of the 2023 N.FL draft without Hank.
So there there was a Reddit rumor and I.
Love this. I love the fact that the rumor out there was. No. I don't want to, I don't want to rain on his, I don't want to pile on because, well, he's had a bad enough night. So yeah, I'm.
Happy, yeah, why not? you look happy? yeah.
You look happy, okay, keep going, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, it was, it was a stupid Reddit rumor about him going first overall. Oh yeah, and that's that's what kind of calibrated people's opinions. Going into this draft, expecting him to go like top five because there's a rumor who go.
One, there's a rumor you go to, there's a rumor he go three and four overall. And I guess it just shows us. Like, don't don't pay attention to Reddit rumors unless it's Billy telling you about the Reddit rumor, in which case the sources are.
Ironclad Well, I feel like the N.FL draft is the last frontier. When it comes to people being able to try to manipulate, like how they're betting by being like, let's just start a room with this guy's going to go. No one really had, especially in this draft. It felt like it was going to be chaotic and it was kind of chaotic. So we went Bryce Young one, everyone expected that, and then we went C.J. Stroud too, which we were talking with Jeremiah and Mick Shane. Being like, it'd be crazy if the Texas didn't take a quarterback, they did the right thing.
And then the chaos started because the Texans pulled the all time power move, traded up to three with the Cardinals and took Will Anderson. So they got C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson, and it's actually smart what they did.
Because if they had done that in reverse and taken Will Anderson, then the price for the number three pick would have been a lot higher. If C.J. Stroud is still on the board. So the shocker, The Texans front office did something extremely competent tonight and lost another shocker, the Cardinals.
Front Office did something extremely competent. Because the Cardinals, it seemed like they were going to take Paris Johnson at three, they were able to trade out a three to six, get a future first rounder and still get Paris Johnson. Yeah, like, think about this, the Cardinals and the.
Texans might've just won the first round draft, I think, you know, in my draft grade, I'm going to give the Texans an eight plus. Because they picked second and third and they got good players, they got probably the best defensive player in the draft. And a lot of people would say C.J. Stroud best quarterback in this draft. If you just go off based on how he played and how he passed from the.
Pocket I thought you were going to say how he played and how he passed against Georgia.
Is you could if you if you're CJ Stroud guy, you can just be like.
Last game, best game, that's all that matters. I actually go based off the first half of the first game. I ever watched him play, which was against Minnesota, and I was like, this guy stinks, and then he probably ripped it up in the second.
He ripped it up in the second, but so.
That's my impression of C.J. Stroud. And then we had Devin. So Anthony Richardson goes to the Colts. Feels like the colts were like, Hey, we're, we're done playing this old quarterback game roulette. Let's get off the carousel, let's get a young guy.
Who's got all the traits, all the upside, who knows? Yeah, I mean, I like to pick, because I do think I like to pick more. Because it's the Colts, and if you're the Colts Front Office or your Colts fan, you're like, just please don't do the same thing you've been doing every year.
Phil Rivers, Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz. They have something completely fresh, completely new, totally different, that's fun.
And everything that he does is going to be a highlight or a low light. It's going to be. There's going to be a clip of everything Anthony Richardson does. Because he's like, he's a player. When he plays well, it's like, holy shit, he's the only person in the league that can do that. When he plays poorly, he looks like a drunk Jamis.
Yeah, so he's going to be.
Just a content machine. And listen, this is something that not every franchise gets. The benefit, I'm going to use it as a positive, the benefit of of of experiencing. But drafting a quarterback in the first round really does like, give you a new pep in your step, lease on life where you're. Like, we have at least a year to just only look at the positive and ignore.
All the negative. The entire off season after you draft the quarterback is maybe the best off season of all, because you can convince yourself of anything in that time period.
But even the first year, like if he plays, let's say he plays half the games, yeah, even if he sucks for half of those games. You can still be like, Well, you, you saw how good he was in that.
One game, yeah, and he does seem more dynamic than any quarterback that they've had in a very long time. Obviously, Andrew Luck was pretty good and he could run the ball pretty well when he played. But Anthony Richardson is like, he is. Cam Newton 2.0, Yeah.
It's going to be weird seeing a guy like that in a Colts uniform. Yes, it's going to be very jarring. Yeah, so um, Tyree Wilson to the.
Raiders I just, I'm, I bust all big 12 defensive players. I loved his suit, though. yeah, his suit.
His suit was awesome, he looked like a cowboy pimp. Yeah, kid Rock was just nodding somewhere that he looked awesome tonight. So, uh, I don't I. I tend to agree with you, just less on like Big 12 players, but more Texas Tech player.
If you're a defensive player, I would not touch you in the first round. My brain is still stuck in the past. Yes, B. John Robinson to the Falcons, which will.
Be very fun. Yeah, they're just going to run the ball, he's going to be the Larry Johnson, yeah.
They're just going to feed them the ball. Remember, they still have all Algier, who's what?
Is rookie? Was that his rookie year last year? Yeah, uh, yeah. And they have, uh, drake, London.
Yeah, they've got Kyle Kyle Pits, they just have beasts everywhere. Taylor Heinecke, he's got some.
I am. Now that we're listing all these, I'm going to start believing in the Falcons again, cause.
They have dudes good for you, yeah. B. John Robinson is Texas back. This is I think their second top 10 pick in, like, I don't know, probably the last 10 years out of Texas.
Oh, speaking of which, uh, this just triggered the fact that Bryce Young was the first Alabama player ever to go first overall. That's not true, that's a fake stat. It was, it was shown on ESPN Modern NFL. I looked it up.
I don't know, maybe like in the forties or something. It's insane, I think. Namath went through. He went 12 in the NFL draft, he went first overall in the AFL. Okay?
But that wasn't the N.FL draft. How insane is that? That is? That is extremely nuts.
When you think of all the talent that they've had, but what schools have the most first overall picks? They haven't been like an insanely great offense until recently. Yeah, but even no. But that was any defensive as well. That's not that blew my mind.
What teams have, what colleges have the?
Most first overall picks Yes, there's five tied at, uh, one overall, yeah.
One, Uh, no, sorry.
There's four Ohio state.
No, Oklahoma, Yes, four of them, there's one is A and M.
No, it is.
Oklahoma, Georgia, Notre Dame, USC Uh, yeah, USC makes USC always kind of makes sense. Yeah, think about it.
Yeah, but yeah, that was that blew my mind, that I saw that it is crazy to.
Think that, uh, Seahawks got a great corner in early in the first round with a spoon is a beast. So I, you texted, will love us. I texted my good friend D.K. Metcalf. He was supposed to be on the show, Uh, and I told him that they trade they took. Will love us with her with her first first round pick pumped.
He was, uh, he was not pumped, and then he told me that he wanted witherspoon instead. And so DK got his wish. Nice, he got his corner.
I feel like the CEO, I'm going to give them an A to. Seahawks. get an a right off the bat. Well, yeah, because the Seahawks.
Took Devin Witherspoon and then they also. They got Jackson Smith and Jigba, who people had is the number one wide receiver at 20, he, they got them. That's kind of how I think about the draft.
When I think about teams that that had multiple first round picks, I'm like, Well, they won the.
First round Yeah, yeah, exactly, you have more than one first round pick. Um, and then we had the bears and eagles trading.
So the bears fleece. The Eagles didn't want Jalen.
What wrong? They did not fleece the bears, fleece eagles. They didn't want Jalen Carter at nine, they got a free pick.
It doesn't matter which round next year from the Eagles, third round, uh, it doesn't matter what round, second round, it doesn't matter what round.
First round, I don't know how many times I had to say, it doesn't matter what round. And, uh, the Eagles took. Jalen Carter, who a lot of people had, is the best player in the draft. Uh, I actually, okay, Max was being mean to me.
Um, I am now, unfortunately, have to root against Jalen.
CarteR Because that's just forever tied, because Jalen Carter could end up being one of the best.
Defensive tackles in the N.FL. And here's what I'm going to say is. I actually think that it was genius for the Eagles to take him in, the Bears to not take him, because everything we've heard about him, he needs veteran leadership around them. The Bears do not have that, the bears have a very young locker room.
Not a lot of great defense players. The Eagles have the opposite. they have a lot of great defensive players, a lot of older Fletcher, Cox, like a lot of guys that will help him. Uh, so I actually, Oh, dude, perfect.
It's doing the Eagles, give me a fucking break, God damn it. We just took Smith, too, so we're just, I love what, how he's doing.
Like, I hate it, I hate it. As a commander's fan, uh, I can't stand it because it makes too much sense. Just take all, just take everybody from the best defense in the history of college football and put them on your team in the NFL.
Yes, so Max, how are you feeling? I mean, I feel great, I don't think.
I mean, a lot of, a lot of people wanted Nolan Smith at 10 if we, if we didn't get Carter there. Oh, it's very. It's basically exactly what happened last year. When we took when Jordan Davis fell, we took him and then the Kobe Dean fell, and then we took him. Okay, so you have all Georgia, so it's just all Georgia.
Our entire defense will be Georgia. It's smart, it's a smart move. Now. That's not all of dude perfect.
I noticed the purple hoser's not there. And Tall guys are two favorites. Those are you have the worst elements of dude perfect.
Out there, Yeah, all right, so Max, you feel confident, you feel good.
Yeah, I mean, it's I. I'm a big believer of. Draft day means nothing and it's fun to get excited and watch highlights. Draft days about watching highlights. That's the only thing that matters is getting a guy who has fun highlights. That you can go to bed tonight watching them and like, get you excited for the future.
That is, that is what it means. Yeah, that's one of the best parts. But also if you just played in the Super Bowl, then you're probably like, whatever, we got a good team anyways, yeah.
This was a bonus. And then when you, if you want to talk about a A draft grades, the Eagles got a draft grade tonight. Are you a little nervous? So you?
Took more defensive players. Are you a little nervous that, like, what if the turf isn't great and they slip? And then you cry about it for like, a month, how it was not fair, you cried about it. No, I didn't.
You cried about that, I did not cry about that. You cried about that. you cried about it, you cried.
You cried about that, you cried, I cried.
I do think, I think that the Eagles have a really good draft, and I really do believe. Like, what I said is that Jalen Carter on the Eagles makes a ton of sense. I don't know he's probably going to be a really good player. I don't know if he would have made a ton of sense on the Bears, given everything else.
I'm going to feel safe for driving around Chicago. Yes, yes, take them, yes.
And Darnell?
Wright is what the who the Bears took. Who is was my number one offensive lineman on my big board.
Yep, you know what? He's going to be a beast. Here's a feather in your cap. Micah Parsons ever heard of him?
Yeah, great player, yeah, plays on on, uh, the defensive line, sometimes at edge, other times at linebacker. encounters a lot of offensive lineman in his line of work.
He had this to say about Darnell, right? He's a first round talent. Yeah, you got a first round talent in the first round. That's value, baby.
That's good slot, that's great value, yep.
Micah Parsons approved No. I mean, drafting o-line is always so funny because no one knows how they're going to pan out. But you're like, we needed that, I just, that's good, that we needed.
That you just want to take a big dude who can do the splits. Uh, what was, uh, our friend Tom?
For Nelly, I said, Tell me everything, because he's he's one of those draft nerds. And, uh, I think his exact quote was, When he gets his hands on you, it's over. Okay, I like that.
Yeah, that's smart. That's what they said about BTK, too. If he gets it, if he gets his hands on.
You, you're done, that's good, love it. Yeah, uh, yeah.
And then, and then, we got to, um.
Well, let's talk about the lion. yeah, the lions, basically, they just they kept trading back and.
They did some weird shit, they're playing like 1980s football. They took a running back after getting DeAndre Swift and David Monk. Have Deandre Swift signed David Montgomery. They drafted a running back at 12 and then an inside linebacker at WHAT?
18, 16.
Yeah, so the weird thing was.
Why not? If they're going to draft a running back and they traded back and they took, they ended up taking Gibbs, why wouldn't they have just taken B. John Robinson with their initial pick?
I think, uh, if I had to take a guess, they were going to take Devin Witherspoon. Yeah, and that cause that the thing that I just don't understand about the lines. They needed defense, they had a good offense last year, they need a lot of defense.
And then they took a running back with 12.
I don't know, I'm the Lions can get, you know, they have a lot of talent right now. But it felt like running back and linebacker in the first round feels like the missing pieces to a Superbowl team. Not, maybe the lines are, I don't know, all right.
It feels like.
The pieces of a Superbowl team. When Dan Campbell was playing football, right exactly now, I was doubting the pigs, too. But then I saw Dan Campbell's reaction in the war room, and he basically started to wrestle everybody in the war room. He was so pumped up. So I'm like, whatever, I'll just.
I trust in Dan Jack Campbell's a great linebacker name, someone pointed out on Twitter and he went to Iowa, so it will probably work out. Academic Heisman Yeah.
Also, Uh, goalie of the Oilers. Oh, really. yeah, one of their goalies, Jack Jack Campbell. How about that?
Yeah, so.
So the Lions have five of the first 55 picks in this draft, which is that's good as long as you don't screw it up. It might be like giving Joe Biden more bicycles. Yeah, yeah.
So, uh?
Let's see what else. Oh, Billy, what do you want to talk about? Uh, will McDonald?
The fourth love it. We needed someone in the box, a linebacker, D line or an offensive lineman, and we got one. And he can jump really high and just videos him jumping huge cars, dunking, doing back flips off walls. He can, like, jump over a whole offensive line.
Some people would say that he's undersized. Billy, what do you think about that? He can jump high, so it doesn't matter, but in football, what's more important? jumping high or being being big and strong?
I mean, he's got some weight to him, it's not like he's just a little short, yeah, and he jumps high.
Isn't he like two, 40 or something like that that's still can hit? Yeah, he's six, four, two, 40, so he's not short, or, yeah?
No, he can jump, he can jump, he can jump, he can jump over.
A car? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. What kind of car?
Uh, it was a sedan. Like, if he jumps over like an offensive line. Troy Paul Lama Sex quarterback Okay, yeah, exactly. So I'm looking for that.
Uh, what do you think about Emmanuel Forbes? Uh, I love Emmanuel Forbes. He's a ball hawk, He's got six interceptions returned for a touchdown. Huge.
So basically, we got a wide receiver, that's that's going to score touchdowns for us on defense. Also, the two guys that made the pick are defensive backs. Both of our directors of this entire draft for the commanders played defensive back. So I I trust what they're doing. That's like Ryan Polls and offensive linemen.
Yeah, so they know what they're looking for right now. It does. It does worry me a little bit. That the Patriots picked right after us, and their pick was in the second that we announced that we were going to take Forbes.
And then they ended up taking Christian Gonzalez a little bit too quickly after we took our cornerback. Which makes me think, oh shit, then we really fucked this up.
No worse feeling. And then doing like a fantasy football draft and having someone pick directly after you, instantly being like, I can't believe you missed that.
They stand up and they say, Yes, yeah, that's what Belichick did to the commanders tonight.
So Christian Gonzalez was slotted to go like somewhere in the top 15 felt to 17.
I would say some were saying Top 10, I think it's over. Under was eight and a half. Uh, hank, you feeling good?
Sure, I was watching the Celtics game. I, okay, we'll get to that. I give your grade A, B plus flashy suit.
Yeah, don't know how that's going to work, you know? Hopefully that's just a draft a thing. Oh, if you don't trust me by the way, that that Forbes is going to be a great cornerback. You ever heard of Jalen Ramsey?
You heard of him, he's pretty good, he said. He's like that about about Emmanuel Forbes, so I feel like he's being like, that is right behind him. If we're doing like power rankings of him, that dude, one of one and like that, I would put like that number.
Two, so that's good, that's a good endorsement, yeah, so we'll love us. Officially not picked in.
The first round that sucks. The chiefs didn't take them, she did not take him. Let's look for.
Oh, okay, he could be there. She's officially did not take them. That sucks. Uh, I would get.
So hammered, If I were him tonight, yeah, I would just boom, hit the bar right now, go.
Back to the green room, I think I think Gino Smith did again. Spin zone. I actually think like you might go to a better situation, you also people won't look at you like anything. Richardson and C.J. Stroud.
If they're not really, really good, they're a bust. Yeah, if you're picking the second round, the bust potential is just not like people don't view.
You the same way, and if you end up being good, then you can, like, call the other guys. Later, when somebody else slides in the green room and be like, Hey, it gets better, you know who's in the green room after day one four years ago? DK MetcalF Oh, there we go, yeah.
Huge, there's.
Actually a, I mean, the notables right now on the list, uh, Hennon Hooker, Michael Mayor, who was awesome at Notre Dame, Joey Porter Jr. Brian Branch, Like, there's. I'm shocked that.
The Steelers didn't take Joey Porter Jr. Yeah, there's some based off vibes. It felt like they.
Had to do that. There's some good names. Yeah, there's some good names out there, so we'll get drafted tomorrow, um, by someone.
And yeah, that just sucks. It sucks for him, it's a bummer for him, but you know what if he's smart? Well, you know what? hit wool?
Oh, bite me in big red, that's great. Uh, we will talk to Will at some point, maybe we can figure out a way to do, like he should be doing some type of advertising commercial. Snickers, Yeah.
Not going anywhere for a while, you know what? Maybe I'll have him. Yes, Stella Blue, like waiting.
Meme said I should do a meme saying Waiting for the coffee? I'm not going to do that. But that he has some money out there right now. Yeah, he'll be fine, yeah.
Um, all right, so other picks. So the run on wide receivers happened around, Uh, what was it? 20 Jackson Smith and Jigwa. Uh, Zay Flowers, look at we. We should talk about it right now. Lamar Jackson is still a raven.
So that was the big news he got, what'd he get? Ended up getting 185 million?
185 million, that's a lot of money to guarantee to a running back. And I I mean, the Ravens, kind of, they fleeced themselves on that one. Great job, Raven's like who? Nobody in their right mind was going to trade anything worth anything for that guy.
I didn't want it, I never wanted that guy, like, why would you? Why would you want a quarterback that has to miss half the games? In the bathroom, right? Why would you make, like, 12 Photoshop?
No, it's such a no, of course not. Why would anybody ever do that? He's, he's, he's going to be a Raven, and it seems like the Ravens are. Have they been doing the thing where they are? Like, overcompensating for the fact that they haven't invested in wide receivers and weapons for him in the past? Cause they got Odell and then they went out tonight and they got another wide receiver. And say, flowers.
So it's like, a, yeah, you, you cheat on somebody, and then you. You just bring them like gifts and chocolate and diamonds and flowers for the next, like five days after, they take you back, just to try to get back in their good graces. It feels like the Ravens are trying a little too hard to make Lamar happy. Yeah, in reality, he's, he's a running back, he's not. Nobody wants it.
But the Ravens have.
Some talent around him for once, so Zay Flowers, Yeah, went. And then we had. The Vikings took Jordan Addison, which is scary to think the Vikings having like, if they, if he's a good receiver, another great receiver. I love the Bill's pick of Dalton Kincaid. Like they, what do we say over and over and over about the Bill's offense?
Like not being able to get those those little yards over the middle of the field, like not boom or bust, just getting like five yards. Dalton Kincaid is an awesome, awesome pass catching tight end. And then who was the other? There was one other wide receiver taken, there was, Let's see, oh, Quinn Johnson.
Yeah, it was, it was. It was four wide receivers in a row, so so everyone just took wires. It seems like there.
There are a lot of teams out there that are just trying to outscore the chiefs they've, they've given up. The league has given up on trying to defend Patrick Mahomes, with the exception of the Raiders, who, uh, who took their defensive end. But in terms of, like the Chargers bills, they're just like, you know what? We're not going to be able to limit Patrick Mahomes to under 30 points. Let's just try to score 38 and hope that's enough.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're, you're absolutely right. Yeah, just outscore him. Um, it's not simple.
Just more points, score more points. Uh, there was a couple other things. Oh yeah, the Packers, uh, they. I think we're all hoping that they would take a wide receiver.
That would have been fun. They took Lucas van Ness and he had all of his sisters around him, congratulating him. I think there were like four girls on the couch, his dad was a his dad that was patting one of.
Them on the butt. It was that, and then his little brother or friend jumped on him, got pulled off and they got pulled off. It's only on this couch, bro, come on, man.
He's in the NFL now.
You know the rules that he compares favorably to Aiden Hutchinson, I would say, in the family.
Department Yes, I would agree, I would agree. Um, yeah, that's any other big ones from the draft. I mean, there wasn't anything that I was like, shock, shock with like.
I said, I think the Texans being aggressive was pretty cool to see, yeah, and the Lions are doing a throwback team.
When was the last time a team took two picks in the first five? Cause I know one, I know one time that happened, it was a long time ago, like 23 years, I think.
Jake, you look it up, yeah, two picks in the first five, I think there was another one recently.
Fuck cause. The one I know was the Redskins when they took Levar, Arrington and and Chris Samuels. There was one very recently. But just seems like they're on the right track. It would have been insane if they had not taken quarterback.
I'm glad that they're not insane. Um, should we talk some basketball? Congratulations Hank, congratulations, thank you.
Soul Patch Bet is officially on the clock. I'm excited, I'm ready. Uh, the Celtics are tested.
They know what it's like, they had their, they had to be locked in. The Hawks played well, they fought well, but now the Celtics are in the mindset of they know they know what they have to do to win. Sixers have had a lot of time off, didn't have to really sweat to win those games.
So there's going to come out hot, blow them out. Game one The Celtics have won a can't lose game.
Baker and Denzel Ward, 2017, Bro, Yeah, 2018, Okay, yeah.
That was one in four. So hank are you? You're ready, locked, loaded. No problem, I'm ready for a sweep.
Sweep either way, no Celtics.
Okay, and Max, you were now? Max has basically been like, he's had free, you know, house money for the last week. And now it's all setting in, like, Oh, fuck, I think, yeah.
So Max gone through.
The whole gambit of emotions. I'm so excited for this, for, for, for our show, because it's going to be great to watch. But Max had, he was scared then, and B got healthy in the cell. Celtics lost game five and then he got happy, and then you could tell tonight he was rooting very hard for the Hawks.
And I think he's like, then the the clock struck midnight and he was like, Oh.
No, oh, the thing about Max is he's never been worried about this and he'll beat Hank's ass. No, um, think about me. Um, no, it's good.
It'll be a fun series, I, I will.
We need to do a super cut of Max just pausing and being like, No, no, it's gonna be a fun time.
No, it's going to be fun. I. The last time I spoke about this series, I was a little bit more nervous, Uh, but you're not nervous now? No, I mean, it's still a. it's still a playoff series. Celtics are a good team.
They may not be as good as I thought that they were. I will say that the Hawks are a bad team. That's one thing that we need to discuss is that the Hawks are. But the Nets are just a great team with all their star players that we got them through the net.
It.
Was coming in, Storm rolled right through the nets, so now no, I'm ready. Uh. I'm happy for the Hawks that they were able to get and beat as much rest as he possibly could going into the next series. I still don't think we'll be at a hundred percent, but it'll be good to go. We'll get some some steroids shot in him, right?
BiLL Yeah, probably, yeah, yeah, the whole go right through the pain.
And six, you're going to win sixers and six sixers in six, okay, makes sense to me. Hank. I think it's going to be selling some four or five.
I mean, Celtics defense was horrible in this series, like very good. They were really good. I do one of 12 from in the second half in this game and they almost won.
I do not really. They've still got Blue Mountain fourth quarter. I do truly believe that it was good that the Celtics had to kind of have that wake-up call. Like, Oh fuck, we have to lock all the way in.
This can't, you can't, can't pause in the playoffs, you can't take your foot off the gas. And then that now they're in that mindset, they know, they know losing those games is good for them and going to games I wouldn't be bad. Cause cause arrest, but they have, they have plenty of rest.
They'll be good, okay, so I'm just I'm so excited for this schedule. It works out great for the show. It's, it's.
No, not really. Yeah, we're going to be out next week, right? That part doesn't work, no, but we're streaming.
Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we're out, but then it's Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday. Oh, okay, that is good. And so we were going to be gone next week, so not a sweep for the Wednesday, Friday anyway.
So the way you just described, that was not a sweep. That's just the schedule of the games. But you didn't say, you didn't say, if necessary. Yeah, you were like, the schedule works out very well.
Every game outside of the first four will be show days no Sunday night.
No, we'll have a stream Sunday night, you'll be shaving your face on on stream, you'll be.
Shaving your face You'll be shaving your face. What are the exact? what are the exact terms? cause I'm getting confused, the exact terms of the bet.
Loser Soul Patch sweep Two months non-consecutive of having a soul patch, correct? And then I'm on the Sixers and then Big Cat is on. Blake Griffin, We got to figure out that number, you don't like Blake.
I love Blake, absolutely, I love Josh Harris. 20. Is 20 fair for both combined? Yes.
Yeah, I think that's fair. 20 points in the series, yeah, total.
Yeah, people, Paul's going to get that in one night when B's not going to play, all right, so what's a fair number?
I don't know we can, we can figure that out. I'm not worried, I don't, I'm. I'm rooting for Blake. Has Blake played same?
I hope Blake has really good. Yeah, it gets in a shit load, scores, a ton, all right.
We'll figure out that number. It should be like, whatever their, uh, season average is half and no. And also in a sweep.
So four games times their season at half of their season average. Uh, okay, what else? Oh, is there a chance to leave bullets? Yeah, there's definitely a chance.
They showed the graphic earlier today of their last, like 14 clinching games, all losses. There's always a chance of beliefs. They will figure out a way to blow it. Um, but I don't know, I guess I. I just haven't experienced Leafs failure on a on a first person basis enough.
Yeah, I've really only got that last year. And then what's happened so far at this playoffs, to really understand what it's like rooting for the maple leafs in a playoff series, it's not good.
It's bad, in fact, it's even when they're winning, it feels like they could blow it at any given time. Um, but, as Jake pointed out tonight, the thing I was confused about at the start of the game, trying to figure out which team was which team. Because they're Pantone's of Blue are the exact same, right? There's not even a different two 81 C, two 81 C. they're the exact same. That's tricky on the eyes.
But, um, yeah, I'd say, probably like a 70 chance that the leafs blow it, which is lower than normal. Yeah, it feels, I don't know, maybe.
Maybe it's just, you know, one game, but it. It also is like the the Lightning had been there many times before they win this game. Six, who? Boy, that would really suck for at least chance, it really would.
I just looked it up, uh, b-ball. Paul's averaging four points a game and Blake's averaging four points a game, so the total over under should be like 16.
For the whole series, is that fair? Yeah, wait for both of them combined, yeah.
So if they're both averaging four points a game, then it would be half 32.
No, no, I said, half of their season.
Average times four games. Okay, yeah, so 16 points I need out of both of them combined. Yeah, sure.
I mean, Blake hasn't been playing a ton. Uh, he's a matchup guy, though, he is a matchup guy. Maybe they'll play against each other. Blake should be playing way more.
God damn it, get him in the game, he'll have his, he'll have his day, all right, so I need 16 points, 16 points.
I think it's 17, 16 and a half, 16 and a half points out of B-ball Paul and Blake Griffin.
Combined for me not to get a soul patch, I like that I will be in a lot of trouble if I get a soul patch when a baby's coming. Oh, those are going to be some great pictures. That's a future me problem, boys.
That's a future me problem.
Yeah, a lot, a lot of trouble. This is the picture of when you were born. Let's just get Paul Reed together, let's get Paul and Blake Griffin.
That's just what we need. You're rooting for Embiid to stay here, too? No, I'm rooting for a seven game series because then I have, I think I can hit it, if it goes six or seven, I think I'm okay.
But, uh, if it goes significantly less, yeah, okay, all right now I'm I feel just as nervous as fucking Max, What do you? what do you have? PFt?
Uh, I've got just I've got the Sixers I'm rooting for, Josh Harris and also. But again, you don't, oh man, what you want the soul.
Yeah, you just want, you just want to rock the soul. No, I. no. I don't want to have the soul patch. I want to, I want to feel something. In this series, you could rock a soul patch and no one would say anything.
That's not true, that's not. I don't think anyone would say it's a bad soul patch.
I don't think, I don't think, like if I close my eyes, it's like just the Howie Mandel.
Yeah, just strictly the Howie Mandel hank. When was the last time you shaved your head? No, no, no, no.
Is it under the lip or on the chin? under the lip? 17 is a lot of points I'm looking right now, it's not that many.
No, it's not. Yeah, B-ball Paul is going to have 10.
Points he literally, because then B didn't play, he didn't play. It's not going to be a sweep, okay?
All right, you promise, I guess if it's a sweep that I just get to laugh at you. Now, Hank is, Oh, this is so bad. Why am I involved in this?
I'm excited, real excited. This is bigger than the finals. Every point from B-ball, Paul and.
Blake Griffin is going to feel like a soup bowl for me. Every single point matters. Yeah, this.
Is going to be great, all right. Also, Skip Bayless weighed in and he said that the Sixers are way, way, way, way, way, way that like greater than sign. I have no idea where this is going.
Way, way, way, way, way better than the Celtics. So Skip Bayless is on our side. We should, actually, everybody tells Skip Bayless. He has to get a soul patch if the Sixers lose, too. Yeah, he's.
Really likes it or not, everyone's beat him all right. Let's, uh, we're going to keep to ourselves.
We're going to talk, beat the Rangers too. Oh yeah, the Rangers are done. the Rangers are pathetic.
The Rangers are pathetic, they are like, that is a pathetic to be up 2-0 with two games at home and then they obviously lost in New Jersey tonight, but they're pathetic. Four Nothing Shutout Rangers fans Not over yet.
Pathetic performance, that is, it is. Are they dead? I think the Rangers might be dead, it feels like that.
What did I mean? They got shut out? Yeah, no, that's pathetic. Um, okay, so we're going to talk all Giannis Bucks, all the Wednesday night action, every series that went on, and then we have Carson Palmer and Firefest.
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Let's have a debate about failure. Because the playoffs Wednesday night, uh, the heat beat the Bucks in five and Jimmy Butler does it again. Jimmy Butler was insane in Game four with 56 points. He backed it up again with 42, seven and eight in Game five. The Bucks blew another huge lead. They were up 13 in the going into the fourth quarter.
It was the biggest comeback. Uh, in a clinching game he could win in overtime, and then Giannis after the game. Uh, was asked, Let's let's set the stage, So he was asked after the game. Is this season of?
Bad question, I would say weird question, weird question, because it's it implies that the term failure, it's kind of loaded, right? What did you fail in your ultimate goal?
Yes, but when you say failure, you're kind of asking him like, this season, might you wish the season never happened?
Right, so he responded, Uh, quote? It's not a failure, it's steps to success. there's always steps to it. Michael Jordan played 15 years, won six championships.
The other nine years.
Were they a failure? Uh, MJ definitely would say yes, without a doubt. If you were to ask that same question, he'd be like, Yeah, the season sucked, yeah.
Not worth it, yes, uh?
That's what you're telling me. It's the wrong question, Giannis continued. There's no failure in sports, there's good days, bad days.
Some days you're successful, some days you're not, someday days it's your turn, some days it's not your turn.
And that's what sports is about. You don't always win, sometimes other people win, and this year somebody else is going to win, simple as that.
I feel the same way. Okay, Hank is talking about the lottery ball right now. Uh, this was a great, uh, my initial take, so it was funny because the game ended really late. And Giannis has, like, a lot of like, he's one of the most likable athletes, I think in across all sports. no one really hates Giannis.
He is seems like a great dude, obviously, an incredible basketball player, a couple MVPs championship, he's got a loaded trophy closet, he gives great quotes. There was the initial like, Oh, Giannis, this is so profound. And I watched it in the morning when I woke up. And I was like, Wait, this is like something you say to a bunch of, like, 10 year olds in little league.
It's okay to say the Buck season was a failure. Giannis isn't a failure. None of the players are a failure. Their season was a failure. They were the one seed.
They had the most wins in the IN in the regular season, there were odds on favorites and they got bounced in five games. That's a failure.
Now, so, if you were to say that to a group of little league kids, it's because you're trying to teach them what would be the right lesson in life. Right? Where this is, you want them to grow up, to have this perspective that Giannis already has as an adult. So it's, I guess, technically.
Well, you teach them, because they're not going to be professional athletes and they need to learn that. Like, they're the the journey and everything like that. And how to win well and lose well, and.
All that, so Giannis has almost too much perspective, right? Which if he hadn't already won a championship, I would definitely say. This is why Giannis will never win an N.B.A. championship, because he has too much perspective in things. It's like, when we're talking about Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, like Aaron, Rodgers has all the perspective in the world. Because of his psychedelic use, which is not the trait that you want in an elite quarterback. You want a guy to be a complete psycho and to say, I will literally get divorced if it means that you try to keep me from winning football games.
So, in an ideal world, in the world of professional sports, you want as little perspective as possible. Sometimes you, Giannis, Well, psychos. Well, yes, you want psychos, Giannis. While technically being correct with this take and and saying all the right things. And what? You would hope that citizens of the world would grow up to be thinking to themselves at the same time?
You're like, he doesn't have that dog in him. Well, it's, it's just it's professional sports and expectation does change, like these post-game comments. Because if De'Aaron Fox or Malik Monk said this, I'd be like, Okay, they're on the way up, they're climbing their young team. No one expected this three seat, all that. Giannis, you guys were expected to be competing for a title, you were expected to be in the Eastern Conference final. Like a bare minimum when the bracket all broke out and they lost in five.
I again, I don't. It's crazy like the people are like, Well, Giannis isn't a failure. No shit, Giannis isn't a failure. He's like, overcome all odds.
He's one of the best players in the N.B.A. but this season's a failure. I don't understand why you can't just.
Say we failed at getting our goal. Yeah, so, uh, really, the big winner in all this is the play in tournament. Yeah, because the heat become.
They're the first team to ever advance after winning the play in tournament, right? Yeah, so this is what we've always wanted for the Plan tournament. It might start meaning more now.
It might be meaningful. Games Jimmy Butler because of one Jimmy G. Butler, who is now, you know what? Jimmy's number one. He's my number one player in the N.BA. Not everyone else is a failure. And also if you look at it, you have to look at this through the lens.
Anytime you talk about basketball, of what would Michael Jordan do? And also what would LeBron do in a situation like this? And if LeBron had been the one to say, this season is not a failure. I made a lot of good friends along the way and had some great practices and enjoyed time spent on this earth. I would we would lead the next five shows off.
We talked about LeBron, it was one of my criticisms of coach K. When he'd have like a one or two seed and he, and after they would get bounced in the tournament, he'd be like, it's about teaching young men how to become like adults. It's like, No, you wanted to win a title, you wanted to win a title, that was the goal.
It's okay in professional sports to be like, we're trying to win a title, and if we don't win a title, we failed. Especially when you are the best team in the league. Hank, I know that you saw this and you were like, This is ridiculous, yeah.
The hat you're wearing right now, you're your city of champions. You, you probably saw this.
And were like, Gross, I hate that hat, but I love it at the same time. Any, any, any team that's any season that doesn't have a championship is a failure. A couple of quick notes from the game. Well, No.
So that what if you get to a lot of championships and lose them all in the same year?
I think it does depend, like, cause someone was like, Oh, well, don't you say this other series?
Last year was not a failure, but it was losing the championship.
When you're in the championship, if the Celtics lost in the first round to the Hawks.
That's a failure, colossal failure. That's a failure. Losing two games is a failure. And again.
It doesn't mean any of these guys are failures. Like it it I. I quickly realized, because, um, it was a nice, healthy debate. Uh. Then it became a semantics battle, too, where it's like, we shouldn't. This is stupid now because people are saying, like, well, I'm never calling it a failure, but it's. I think. If you're a fan of the Bucs and you like pay money and you invest your time and everything to have them be like, No, it's not a failure. That you'd be like, What the fuck, dude like, it's okay. It's not saying that you suck or that the history of, like, the future of the Bucs is ruined, or anything like that.
This season was a failure.
It's like the difference in grade school when you're a young kid. We were graded on the curve of like, G for good, or O for outstanding, G for good, S for satisfactory, N for needs improvement. And then you get above, like second grade, and the f starts to hit, which stands for failure. The Bucs need improvement, but also this season was a failure, you could also say, disappointing.
Like, this is a disappointing end to the season for the Bucs. But yeah, failure, it was technically a failure, but you're not a failure. I guess. The new debate, instead of done or finished, like, is it a failure? or is it disappointing? Yeah, well, it's, it is.
It just.
Becomes a semantics battle where it's like, How do you define failure? These guys all have reached the pinnacle of pressure. No shit, the guys who are playing on the court aren't failures. I'm.
Going to let our good friend Webster solve this one. I looked it up. No, Oxford. This is coming from Oxford. A failure is defined as a lack of success.
I would say that this is a failure. Yeah, this season was a lack of success by the by the letter of the law, this is a failure.
Yeah, what are you going to say, Billy? I just feel like Giannis embodies the city and the team, like he sees himself as synonymous. So it was like, hard for him to say like, to remove himself.
And be like the Bucs have failed. Well, he does have, like, he has really good perspective and he's very likable guy. But this one, I just feel like it's okay to be like, Yeah, we failed. Our goal was to win a title. Can I give you a spin zone on this one?
Big cat.
You know who? A minority investor in the Bucs is minority owner Aaron Rodgers Another post-season loss for Aaron Rodgers failure.
Two, I just feel like I got to, I got to put this on the record. But the fact that the heat the Jimmy Butler play to go into overtime, you know, basically happened in a second or less than a second, maybe a second and a half. There was point over two seconds, which he did. There was 0.8 left and the Bucs had a timeout and they just didn't call it. When the Heat basically scored on a play where you that was take, you know, a second or less.
So the Bucs could have done something similar, and they just chose not to. So if Giannis was he, this would.
Have been way more explosive. But he should have just been like, Yeah, our coach is a failure. Because not only did Bud go to overtime with the timeout in his back pocket, I'm pretty sure they finished overtime with a timeout in his back pocket. Grayson Allen finished the game, the Bucs.
Season finished without a last shot. That was, you know, a few times in sports, I was laughing out loud at that last shot attempt. It was so funny when it got to Grayson Allen and he just didn't even get a shot off. Trying to do a Euro step with zero seconds left, it was, I was like, legitimately, I can't believe that just happened. You don't really see that in Pro.
I feel like in.
College? Yeah. The Badgers might've done that in the nit semifinal, where they just played hot potato for the last 15 seconds. But it was. It was a coaching masterclass by Spolstra and a complete dud by coach Bud, cause he was. There was a couple of things.
One is, uh. Afterwards, Giannis was asked, did he wish he had guarded Jimmy Butler more? Because Drew Holiday was getting torched by Jimmy Butler? Like he was in, Jimmy Butler was talking all the shit it was. He kept on, he kept on screaming at him, on your head, on your head.
He pointed at the Jumbo. Yeah, he just kept on being like, I'm doing it on your head, which was, I fucking love Jimmy Butler so much. Um, but SPO, So that last play that you mentioned, uh, it was afterwards, Jimmy Butler said. He told SPO that he thought. Drew Holiday the exact quote is he believed Drew Holiday would lock and trail behind him on that lob at the end of regulation.
And then it would open up the lob over the top and SPO was like, Yes, do it, yep. And then, on the other side, Giannis was asked why he didn't guard Jimmy Butler more, and Giannis said, I yes, out of respect. You got to let coach make that adjustment at the end of the day.
I wish I could guard him more, like Giannis is the best player on the court. He should be guarding Jimmy Butler, He should tell his coach, Hey coach, you're an idiot, I should be guarding him.
Clearly, this is not working yet. Giannis was, you know, it was like, No, I trust my coach, which was a mistake, cause Bud got absolutely manhandled.
And I don't.
I did see it in the replies, but, uh, when the Raptors were down, oh, two to the Bucks. When the Kawhi, the year they won the championship. There was a quote that, uh. The coach came in and was like, we're going to make some adjustments, and Kawhi told the coach, Yeah, the adjustment is.
I'm guarding, uh, Giannis, it is a player leak, like the best players should, if the best player, I know the coaches have a job. But like, if Jimmy Butler says to SPO, this is what we can do to score this basket, spo's like, Yeah, you're the best player. You see what you see better than I I can right now.
Whereas Giannis, he should just go guard. Jimmy Butler and it was, we should say, one one, one caveat. Jimmy Butler did kind of shove on that last play, he did kind of show.
He did push off, but also the box we're getting every call. Did they call it? No, then he didn't push, he didn't push.
Let me ask you this hypothetical who would you rather have? Guarding the rim on that last shot? Giannis or Connaughton? Well, here's another thing that happened. They put Connaughton in just for that play, too.
Here's what other what also happened.
Spo put Bam on the bench and Bud then put Lopez on the bench. Lopez kind of important for a lob at the rim. Yep, kind of a guy you want out there. Like it was just doing circles around.
You hardly ever see a lob at the rim on that play with like two seconds left, that's usually not.
The goal? But it works. Jimmy, Jimmy saying this is, I think this is going to work, let's do it. Uh, spo's gotta be the best coach in the league, he's so good.
And even even the little shit like, Um, Bam was not great this series, but in the second, in the fourth quarter, they had Bam just bring. Like, being like, basically the point guard. And Lopez was just giving him all the space in the world and he was able to pass to anyone like, opened up the 13 point comeback. Like everything Spo did, Bud was just standing there, being like, Gee, I don't know Giannis should just post up. I guess it was crazy.
I'd like to confirm Hank's fake quote, it's actually.
Real, Yeah, so it was from Phil Handy, he wrote this down, Kawhi said. The adjustment is I'm guarding Giannis.
And then he walked out of the locker room, Yeah, and that's it, like, that's.
That's what like when your best player says, especially when your best player steps up and is like, I'm going to do this, you know that, like, why wouldn't? That's the best coaching.
In the world, get out of the way. Yeah, so maybe again, Giannis has too much perspective. I'm going to let coach make the decisions.
I have to trust coach, maybe he's just gotta be a dick, maybe occasionally, Giannis has to, has to just put his balls on the table.
Yeah, and I know obviously Giannis getting hurt changes like the course of the series. But the Bucs one single win was when Giannis wasn't playing. And they blew double digit leads and back-to-back games in the fourth quarter. When they just couldn't score, I think they scored like two field goals from six minutes on in the regulation, including overtime, like they just couldn't score when they needed to. And Jimmy Butler is the man.
Jimmy Butler is incredible. He'd aren't full strength either. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everyone's got injury and they had all.
Their guys were fouled out in overtime. Yeah, and you'd honest, with the most heat culture tech ever.
Going at it with Bobby Porter, which was like, that's just two dogs barking at each other, like with a fence in between. Like, I just, I would like, I love both those guys. Yeah, yeah.
But Jimmy Butler, like this, is now, like his game. Four was one of the most impressive things I think we all had seen. To actually finish it off on the road and then have it be. In five games you beat the number one seed like this is he's. That's an all-time performance, this entire series.
And if they keep going, they play the Knicks, Tibbs versus Jimmy, it's ready to go, it's going to be awesome. I have a little fun stat for you Jimmy Butler in, uh, his games post All-star Game 20 games.
How many threes did he hit? Post all 20 games? He hit 13, he hit 12 and five games. it actually 12 and four games.
Cause he didn't hit one in the first. He's a switch guy, yeah.
It's the ultimate. Jimmy Butler has officially flipped the switch. Incredible, it's incredible, yeah.
It was awesome to watch Jimmy the last two nights. God damn, he's good, he's so good, so good.
And it feels like he's good, like just when he wants to be good, yeah, he just turns it on.
And he has that, like, I am better than you. I'm going to take this game over on your head, like it's. There's just nothing better in sports than watching someone talk shit and then back it up.
I would like the opposite of Dylan Brooks, I would like to say directly to our audience. Part of my take is a failure because we pronounce heat culture to be dead, that's true, we failed.
We did, I did, I failed. listen, we failed, we failed.
He culture was dead. Yeah, we failed at at correctly announcing the time of death of heat. Maybe we were right, because it's not heat culture, it's Jimmy Butler culture.
But what brought in Jimmy Butler? He checked all the boxes.
I think Jimmy Butler culture is now over heat culture. No, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no no, yeah, it's Jimmy Butler culture. Jimmy Butler did that.
Duncan Robinson Culture. He did that, yeah, but yeah, no, I did declare him dead, and I mean, it was shocking.
And even I'll admit.
Like, we were talking about bowl of seat, we're like, Eh, yeah, we're probably going to lose to.
The Uh, box. But I do wonder if Giannis didn't get injured, but guess what, that just happens. And like you said, Tyler Hero's injured. He broke his hand.
Is he coming back or no?
I think if they make the finals okay, so so probably, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say probably not, I'll say it.
He culture's dead, I'm not going to say it, I haven't learned.
My lesson yet there's, there's, I am officially. Especially with the Lakers who, uh, when put out another dud, I feel like they're just. They are like the Jimmy Butler as a team, where they're just flip the switch. Like, Oh, we don't, we don't need to win Game five.
We'll go back to Los Angeles and win game six. I think they can, they're playing with fire, I still think they can.
They're playing with fire. Third quarter was was a dagger for them. Yeah, they, they fought, they they would bring it back close, but after that third quarter.
They weren't going to win that game. Yeah, LeBron said. He had to be better, he's like.
I'm a failure for the good of the game. I'm hoping for the Lakers for the good of the game. Yeah, Lakers, Lakers, Warriors, Celtics, yeah.
Need to all advance, so the war is the other.
Thing, uh, and we'll talk about Nick's calves. But Hank has never been more right about us, being light the beam guys and being so excited. And then the Warriors have ripped off three.
Straight wins, finally, one on the road. There was a material change with Darren Fox, Yeah.
Yeah, although I think I think it's just like the Warriors don't start the playoffs, still dream on gets suspended. Yeah, and then, and then they just, and then they're ready to kick it into gear, and then that last, that dagger layup that Curry made. Uh, when they were, I think they were up like four or five with like 40 seconds left, where he just ran around the court with the ball.
Like every, he hit every corner of the court and then hit a layup. It's like, Yeah, this, that's why this guy is so fucking good. I think what's going to happen is if.
If the Kings advance, we're going to be caught up again on the beam team. We're going to, we're going to beam beam mania, we'll be beaming everywhere. And we're going to be, um, yeah, dude, it's going to be beam pie, yes.
And I'm going to be very excited about them moving on to the second round and then they're going to start actually playing the second round. And I'm going to be like, I really wish that this was the Warriors. Yes, yes.
Yes, so, uh.
Warriors take a three two lead back to the Bay. Um, never say never, but that was like the Warriors not being able to win on the road. They they checked that off and now they can win games and then the Warriors, which would be crazy if they win. They get home court in the Lakers when they get home court advantage as a six seat. The playoffs have been so awesome because we we usually don't have this.
We had an insane, upset, insane series performance from Jimmy Butler. We've had Warriors, uh, Kings, it's been awesome to watch, We've had Lakers, Grizzlies have, like, weird rivalries.
It's like, we usually don't get this in the first round of the playoffs.
Yeah, you know what? I think we do have to become a failure podcast. We have to just call it we are, we are.
Takes are always we have to, we have to embrace it, we have to judge everything as a failure. From this point on, every small thing that happens, I mean, Jimmy Butler has been stuffing in.
Your face? For like, four years since you called him a non top 15 play, I said he was like 16..
Yeah, he just keeps doing it, he is. Uh, so what's a bigger failure? Purdue or the Bucks?
Once he's getting bounced, I would say, purdue, you think, purdue. The space of the underdogs versus the favorites. They're like the heat. I mean, he had to go in the number one player in the league, according to you? Well, that's retroactive, because he just did that. It's a chicken or the.
FDU didn't, but percentage wise, percentage wise, I think that was the fifth or sixth time, fifth time, yeah, but there's only two, one seat. This is the second time, right?
And there's four.
To seven versus one, but there's four one season march madness every year, they're number four, two. I would say that produce a bigger failure, which means that the Bucks are a bigger failure at being a bigger failure because they failed at being the best failure.
Right, yeah, yeah, double failure, yeah.
They're like, Janice couldn't be more wrong. They're the ultimate failure. Okay, yeah, so in conclusion, Janice is a pussy and I would beat the shit out of him.
Uh, Nick's calves, uh, I have, so Nick's like, they're legitimately good. uh, Julius Randall, he got hurt like he's was terrible all series.
Jalen Brunson's awesome fucking, Josh Hart's awesome R.G. Barrett's been playing with Like the Knicks are good.
And the calves are a couple of years away. Still, I don't know like that was. They got absolutely dominated on the boards in every game. I do have one good thing for the Calves that they can Calves fans who are listening can take this with them.
Ricky Rubio, Uh, after the game, reiterated what Danny Green said, Uh, in the locker room, saying that. The Calves were better than the Knicks, but they didn't show it, and New York wanted it more so. The Calves technically won that series because they were better, but the Knicks were better. We're one, but the Calves were.
Better, they just didn't show it, the calves were better, they didn't show it, plus the effort.
The Calves did. If the Calves played their best game, they would have won that series.
But they never played their best game, but they also didn't want it enough. So it's like, it's a formula with the two things that you need to win a series that they didn't do.
They had one of them, but they were better, they were better, they just didn't play better.
But the two things they didn't play better, they didn't demonstrate that they were better. You need.
Three things you need to be better, to want it more, and then to play better. So they had one.
Of the three, yeah, so that means that the other team had two of the three, and that's why they want. That's exactly how the series, but that still means that the other team's better. But.
If the if we did it on paper or on a Excel sheet, the calves have advanced. Okay, got it, cause they.
Were more talented, got it okay, right? Congratulations to the Cavs.
Congratulations.
To the Cavs, they were better than the Knicks. Knicks season is a failure, according to Ricky.
Rubio and Danny Green got it. That's loser talk, that is something might've gotten lost.
In translation, but it was a. It was a reporter reporting that Danny Green also said that. So they both walked in just being like, Damn, we were better than those guys, even though we lost in five games and got fucking curb stomped multiple times.
Yeah, I mean, we were told.
Going into the playoffs, that the Cavs would be the fun team that could go in a little run. They weren't fun at all, they weren't fun, they were not fun. If you're going to lose like that and you're going to be better, at least be the more fun team.
Yeah, no, they yeah, like the.
The Kings could, Kings would potentially lose, and we'd be like, Well, that was fun. Yeah, Cavs were just depressing and played shitty basketball. Yep, and now we have Tibbs versus Jimmy, and New York is on fire for the Knicks.
It's going to be fun. Are you going to go to any of the game? Shake? When's game one Sunday afternoon in here here? okay?
Yeah, I might.
If I go, I'll be using Game Time last one to take us $20 off code PMT. So we'll see. But the tickets are pretty, pretty steep for Madison Square Garden player, I'm sure they're.
Getting insane right now. Yeah, yeah, all right. hockey playoffs, hank, we only had. oh no, we had two games.
So the cracking are now up three, two on the app.
So Ryan now have to go to game six back down to Florida. Yeah, it was a tough couple of days over at the.
Uh, TD Bank, North Garden. How are you feeling? Same way as the Celtics? I think if either these games go to seven, then it's a scary, scary collapse situation that, you know, neither team should be in this situation. Oh, Mark blacked out in overtime.
You know, I'm, I'm not a goalie, I'm not a hockey X's nose guys. But I don't know what he was doing, what he was thinking. I think he just blacked out. Yeah, I think he just forgot where he was, what his job was, that he was a goalie, not a player.
And you know, maybe he got colorblind, forgot who was on what team. What's the opposite of standing on your head?
Standing on your feet, he was standing on his feet out there. So, uh, we already know what happened in Celtics Hawks because we we taped the beginning of the show after all that stuff. But let's just pretend that the Celtics lost, they didn't, okay.
That would be a tough day.
To wear that hat so you don't even want to pretend No, the Celtics loss. I will be panicked. Shook Uh, not, not a happy camper, okay?
What if you got? What if both teams just got balanced in the first round? You have to, you have to give that hat to Max. Yeah, yeah.
Meanwhile, Max is like, So how we're taping the show today because the draft goes late, we're taping this. It's like six o'clock in the afternoon or evening, uh, and then we'll tape the whole show, the beginning of the show. After the draft, after the cells and stuff. So I keep saying, we'll do all the draft stuff, stuff later tonight. And Max just keeps chiming in on the group texts, being like, also Celtics Hawks because some teams still are in the first.
Round Have you noticed those texts? I have noticed those texts I'm saving, like I said, I'm not. I'm put my focus back on being the Hawks.
So I'm not worried about Max or Philly, but by the time you're listening to this, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be ready to go.
Right, and you? yeah, by the time you're listening to this, the Celtics have already won. Yeah, yeah.
Right, so you're good? So there's a one. Jason Tatum over 25 and a half points. Al Horford over 15 and a half points. Rebounds. Assists Trey Young. No shimmies, I'll be rich.
And why'd you do that bet? Uh, because of the PMTV, that big cat deleted footage last week. Uh, cursing my bet. We went to court, Judge Jerry was the judge, and, uh, watch to figure.
Out what happened, yeah, I would say the court, uh, the court hearing that we had, I think everyone lost. Because Hank and I quickly learned that we don't know anything about law, how legal proceedings work. We just we. We both started the video just being like, All right, present your case, and then I was like, Wait, am I presenting mine?
And then we just ended it with us yelling.
Over each other. I. I've watched probably, uh, four to 500 episodes of Law and Order, all sorts of other cop TV shows growing up. I still have no idea what it means when you do the uh, objection, your honor. Oh, we were objecting each other back and forth, and the judge says, either overruled or sustained.
I was no idea what the overrule or sustained means.
Listen, I was throwing erroneous out there, We were throwing objection, we were saying, like, court of order and all kinds of shit that made no sense. Uh, but yeah, Hank and I are in a good spot now.
Yeah, yeah, we are, we did. We settled it like men, meaning I had to pay him a fee, which is still. I thought about it. When I woke up this morning, I was like, Wait, why did I do that?
He owes me $280,000 in jinx. That's false, the court, the court, let's not do it again.
Objection on myself. Where there will be a brand new graphics package put together by our amazing behind the scenes team. Uh, memes, Max, Chain and Evan. And I can't wait to see that.
And the golf videos coming out Friday? No, no, no, no, the graphics are getting announced.
Or getting revealed, uh, Thursday night? So for the golf video, No. Tonight's PM TV with the.
Court. So if you're watching this on YouTube right now, you'll notice that the graph is a little different. So make sure you also notice there's no golf video. Make sure to complain about the.
Graphics package and be like, I missed the old shout out graphics, yeah, shout out, crap you.
Got to do a great job watching this on YouTube right now and you're just scrolling around, being like, Where's this golf video? It's not there yet, just know that it'll, it'll be there next week, yeah.
Yeah, what? okay, it's worth the wait, okay?
That it's Thursday. You love golf?
Yeah, the video is not for you. Yeah, like good golf, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, like if you're, yeah, yeah, it's funny though.
I can't wait next Monday, next Monday. That is not what I said.
I said, next Thursday early drop, it'll be Thursday 500,000 subscribers, right? Yep, yeah.
Weekly videos come out on Thursday. Next week's weekly video will be Golf. Okay, got it, so no chance.
Even if people ask nicely, it will be always a chance. There's always a chance that people ask nice, sure, you know what, there's always a chance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, underscore maze, Philly, underscore maze.
Yeah, sure, anyone who wants to, anyone wants to talk, some shit, come on over, all right? Uh, let's get to our interview. We've got Carson Palmer talking his career draft night stuff, who he likes in the quarterback class.
Great interview with him in person. Uh, before we do that PT, you got a quick word from one of our sponsors.
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We now welcome on recurring guests. Haven't seen him in a few years. It is Carson Palmer, Heisman Trophy winner, three-time NFL Pro bowler. He's here with Level Select, which we want to talk about, but first of all, thank you for coming back in.
Great to see you and it's perfect. We're going to run this on Friday, so right after the draft first round, okay?
This is your 28, 20 year anniversary of being selected number one overall. Correct? It's I like, I want to know from your perspective, like, tell us everything about your draft night, because I feel like every sports fan on Draft night lives. That imagination of like, man, if I was one of these guys, was it as cool as we think it is? So it was. It was amazing.
It was cool, but it was different because I had agreed to a contract prior to the draft. So I was excited to go to New York because everybody wants to go to New York. That's not that doesn't get to live here. And so I went to Cincinnati to sign the contract. Like on Tuesday and then had a had a big press conference, did that whole deal. And then Wednesday flew from Ohio to New York.
And then I was in New York and I wasn't nervous, I wasn't. I'm in the green room, I'm hanging out. We had champagne going, it was awesome.
Everybody else in the room is stressed and doesn't know. And so I knew I felt great, my family knew, everybody knew that the news had come out, and so we went out the night before. Had a fantastic night. I was hurting the next day of the draft because I didn't have to, like, you know, sit, you know, on pins and cushions.
Where am I going to live next year? Who's in the draft? I knew where I was going, the phone call and all that, all that.
And so, you know, this was back when Tagliabue was a commissioner, so Tagliabue comes out and says, you know, welcome to the 2003 N.FL draft. The Bengals are on the clock and turns around and walks. And this is when it was at Radio City Music Hall, and the whole place starts booing because they all knew the Bengals were going to draft me.
They want to get to the number two pick and let's go, you know, but the production that the NFL does so. Tagliabue leaves. And like, the clock starts. And there's like 10 minutes that go by and everybody in the audience is like, let's go, let's get to the number. So they're booing and I'm kind of hurting from the night before and so I'm just like, let's go, let's get out there. So finally, then Tagliabue comes back out. But the anticipation is something I missed out on.
I was a little, no doubt I was blessed and happy and excited to be where I was. But seeing the unknown around the room and everybody else in the room, you don't know you could be living in Florida, Illinois, you name it. And so I kind of was a little jealous of that, like, Oh, where am I going to go, who's going to draft me?
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