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Today is Friday, May 10th. Hank.
Dank.
Dank.
Dan K What's up, what's up?
What's up, Henry?
Just had a quick question for you, Hank.
What's up?
The Boston Celtics lost tonight, they're now down one point in the series.
No, they're up one.
Oh, excuse me. The Cavaliers are down one point. The Celtics are up one point. in the series. The Cavaliers only won by 24, so that's good.
People are asking questions about the Celtics. It's just one game, it's just one game, it's a long series.
Just one game.
It's just one game.
Get into it, let them get into it.
It's called prefacing your question with giving you all the facts, so I'm not giving you anything out of context.
Got it?
Okay, so some people will say it's just one game, there are other people that will say Hank. The Boston Celtics, when you look at their record against the best teams in the N.B.A. this year, could be known as maybe a cupcake merchant. Maybe they beat up a lot of bad teams in the East, maybe they have a sub-500 record against the top six teams besides the Boston Celtics. I don't believe those people, but they are saying things like that.
They're saying things like Jason Tatum, not a great shooter, and he seems to love the hand, seems to love taking shots. What would you say to those two camps of people out there? Good question.
So what's the question?
What would you say to those two camps of people? What would you say?
What would you say?
You weren't even listening.
We had the best record in the N.BA, we're the number one seed in the entire playoffs, we've lost two playoff games and we're in a good spot. Okay, I think they're wrong.
I think Jason Tatum just gets picked on. He's had nothing but success in his N.B.A. career, he hasn't won a championship, but he's still....
That's a wild one second you just put out there.
What?
That he's a winner, that he's had a lot of success.
I mean, you rooted for fucking Alex Ovechkin for his entire career, would you say the same thing?
No, I did not say that he was a winner before he won the Stanley Cup.
I didn't say that, I said. He's had an extremely successful career and people just try and shoot him down.
No, I think you said he's won.
He's had a successful beginning of his career.
Nothing but success, was the quote.
Nothing but success. That's just not true.
I would have never said that about Alex before he won the Stanley Cup.
Interesting, I don't know if that's true. He wasn't as successful as Tatum was, but they lost one game. It's the playoffs, it's the playoffs.
I'm not going to let it get me down, no?
You guys are going to fucking kill the Cavs in game three, probably.
Bruins and Celtics 0-8 in game twos in their last eight game twos. Is that a fact? It's not a game two town.
Not a game two town.
0-8 in game twos, 14-14 at home in the last three seasons for the Celtics.
Yeah, not a game. Two town.
I actually saw a worse homestead. I thought it was like 9-11, but yeah, I mean, they got it. I'm sick, I will say I'm sick of these wake-up call games.
Like, you know, Miami lose Game two. It's a wake-up call. They'll bounce back, they'll, you know, figure things out and come back stronger. At some point. You got to just be like, it's the playoffs.
Wake-up time's over, let's just come out of the gate every game hot and just, you know, step on their throats. Celtics have the like Dr. Jekyll, Mr.
Hyde thing going where, you know one game. They look like the best team in the NBA, which they are best record in the NBA. They earned that by winning the most games in the NBA at PFT.
You can only play who gets put in front of you, that's true.
I agree with that point. Good point, amen.
But then they come out in other games and look like they have no chance to get beat by 25 to a Cavs team that's not that good.
Well, the Cavs did play well tonight. Karis Levert was awesome. We told you Donovan Mitchell would have a game where he, you know, he shot well from three and Evan Mobley was awesome as well. So like, the Cavs have guys and they played really well.
Yeah, they have guys, Celtics should, you know, should lose to them. They live and die by three. That's, you know, what it is with this team. When they shoot bad, it looks terrible.
And when they shoot good, they look like the best team of all time.
So no panic, no, nothing, just it is what it is. You lose a game, you know? Wake-up call.
Yeah, it's the same, it feels similar to the Heat series. I'm not gonna be humble about it, but it's like, they gotta come out and dominate the next three games.
Yeah, they gotta win the next game.
But I like, again, you know, we had them on awls, love them, I love them. Missoula is the guy that's gonna, you know, get in their ass, tell them to figure it out.
I don't know, you know, why they didn't get in their ass after game one. I don't know what goes on there.
Whose ass does he need to get in?
He's gotta get in everyone's ass.
Yeah, the whole team, whole team, everyone top to bottom.
Yeah.
Run a train.
Stack them on top of each other.
And also remember Hank we are.
So he's climbing the ladder, going ass-tack, Okay, got it?
We're, I think we're what one game away from hitting Kristoff's minimum.
Oh, are we of several? Yes, several, I'd several is three.
Several's three. Well, no. three's a few is three, I think. a couple's two, a few's three, several, I think has to be like four or five.
I think several is three and up, I know a few is three, but I think I think three is also several.
So he's close to hitting his minimum.
I don't, I think. You keep them out till hopefully we don't get to a game six situation, but save them for, you know, that, don't rush them back.
I have a question for you.
Yeah.
Um, and let's just be, let's just listen.
What? No, it's just I have a question. Seven hours later, Oh, okay.
All right, fine, you want me to just rip the band off and ask the question? I don't know the answer to this question. I think you know the answer to the question right now. And I think when your head hits the pillow, you might be like, Am I right?
So that sounds like what you think the answer to the question is.
No, cause I actually don't know the answer to the question.
But you are, but you prefacing that way means like.
Hank does so much fucking interrupting when we're trying to ask him a question, it's ridiculous.
I said, Do you want me to rip the band off and ask the question? Yes.
You know what?
I don't know the answer to this question.
Just be honest, next time we say, is it okay? if I ask you a question? just say no.
Yeah, I can't until you don't talk.
It's not okay, it's definitely not okay with you.
QUESTION TimE Do you want me to give you my answer? Before I give you the question? my answer would be, yeah.
That would be my answer. Yeah, you know the question, What would your answer be?
My answer would be, I think so.
Yeah, the question is, is Jason Tatum the best player on a Championship team?
Yes.
100 no hesitation.
Yeah.
Okay, are you sure?
Yes, okay.
All right, then we're good.
Then you don't even need to tell him the stat because he already said he's good.
You love your stats.
I have a stat. Yeah, I won't tell you the stats.
You cherry pick stats.
This isn't a cherry pick stat, this is the opposite of a cherry pick stat. There's a stat called BPM. For basketball, it's kind of like war. It's what you contribute to your team points overall when you're on the court.
If you look, the peak like Jokic this year was like 13 plus 13.
How's he doing?
He won an MVP. Good point, good point, we can go to play, we'll go to playoffs after cause.
Good point, uh. And it tracks pretty consistently, like when, like, a peak Jordan year is like, uh, you know, 11 12, peak LeBron year 11 12. The the best player in the league, the, uh, the best player on a championship team is usually up there in the top 10. So much so that I look back. And, uh? The last time a team won a championship with a guy who wasn't on with zero players in the top 10 of the BPM was the Detroit Pistons.
Now you could make the argument that these Celtics are like that Pistons team, where the team is so good collectively that it doesn't matter. But does that make you a little concerned? Because if you go down the list, it's pretty much every year? He's 16..
What's Brown?
Brown is here and I'll find it for you. But it's, it's, it's. Every single year you go down, like Jokic, last year was one curry curry. Actually, the The Warriors year was almost an aberration.
Curry was ninth, Giannis was two, LeBron fives, Kawhi six. When the Warriors won in 2018 that team, it was incredible. They had Steph and Katie three and four like down the list.
It goes, I think, he said. Jalen was pretty far down there.
Every team that has won a title has a guy who is a top 10 BPM guy on their roster. All right, I'm going to find it for you. Um, but again, and here, here's where I'm being fair. Hank. The Wolves also don't have a top 10 guy from the regular season. So maybe this is the year that we have two teams that don't have quote unquote, like one of the top five players in the league.
Although Anthony Edwards and Jason Tatum did finish, Do you finish five and Envy?
What about the Is Luca, I'm assuming, is on there?
Yes.
Um, let me get it for you. Oh yeah, Shea. So this year the top the top 10 were Jokic, Uh, Luca, Giannis, Shea, Tyrese Halliburton, LeBron, Sabonis, Brunson, Mitchell, Kawhi. those are the top 10 for this year.
And, uh, hold on, I'm going to get it for you, what?
I mean, by that, it's going to you're you're saying it'll be a knicks.
No, no, no, no, because that's not how stats work.
Also, like any, any of those teams from the East could make the finals right. I'm talking about the winning, the winning team, winning team historically.
I mean, it doesn't take a stat to tell you this, it takes just watching basketball for the last. It feels like 30 years. The winner of the N.B.A. championship usually has a superstar on their team, correct?
Yeah, but yeah, and the Celtics team, to your point, is, is built, you know, it's a team.
It is a team, that's what I'm saying. It could be the Wolves versus Celtics, and you could be saying, well, this. That makes no sense because both these teams have proved the sum of the parts is bigger now. Anthony Edwards also is number two in BPM.
In these playoffs, he's ascending to a point. You know who's number three here? Here's what? Here's a helpline, you know who's number three, who?
DerRICK WHITE So it might be Derrick White's team.
So Derrick White MVP Plus 4,000.
That's true, that is true.
So so I'm going to take so then what's the argument? but no, I'm going to take Hank's.
I'm going to take your side a little bit in this.
If the Celtics get hot, if Tatum plays, he's very capable of being the best player on the court in most games. Like he could do it right, he's, we've seen him do that. Like you said, he finished what fifth in MVP voting, so if he, if he kicks it into high gear, or he said, like, something about MVP voting with Tatum.
Nope.
I thought you said something like that, like two minutes ago.
I think I said it, Uh, Jason Tatum, I think finished fifth or sixth.
Okay, fifth, yeah, so there you go. So he's up there in the conversation.
If he plays an extremely high level for the next three, four weeks, five weeks, he's going to be. And and they win the championship. Nobody's going to be like, Oh, I can't believe this. No name Celtics team won.
No, they're a really good team.
They'll say Jason Tatum is a superstar, he carried them to these the this title, and people remember Jason Tatum. Because he's already close enough to that level where you'd be like, Okay, the playoffs can turn him into a legitimate carrier of a team, yeah.
Uh, so Chris Stops was 14.
Uh, Jason Tatum was 15 and then Jalen Brown was 80..
Derek White was 22.
So you need, you need, Chris stops back.
You need Chris again. I'm not. I think you guys are going to still kill the calves. Um, I think you're still in the East. It was more of a bigger question, and again, my answer is, yeah.
But at least I, I don't know. He just doesn't. He took two shots in the fourth, he liked he, he like, Well, I mean, but you guys, what was the 10 point game going into the fourth?
More than that.
I think you guys got blown out in the fourth like. And he just has, like, he's averaging. He's averaging five points less in the playoffs than he did in the season. That can't. This is when, like, Jalen, Brunson is scoring 40 a night.
I have six players, he's got to step up. But yeah, no, I think that's I think that actually might land there. That goes on for what? Jason Tatum?
Where's? There's been slander? I've asked questions.
No, just just online and in the media.
I think he's an incredible player. We're online and in the media, we're both of those, yeah.
So what do you say about Joel Embiid when these conversations happen?
Here comes Max.
Well, Joel Embiid doesn't make it this hard to play off.
Oh yeah, we all love, we all love coming in second, right?
Max Max was underneath the wrestling ring there, and he just popped out with a steel chair.
Actually, Max Philadelphia, according to Hank Philadelphia Sports, is they've had nothing but success for the last two years. Correct? nothing but success.
Uh, hank, tonight when the fourth quarter, I bet you would.
Jason Tatum's played like 700 more playoff games than Embiid at this point, and he's probably like two years younger.
He's very good, but this is the time that we have to do this. Hank you, you suffer a.
Yeah, no, it's fine, they lost.
They were down 12 going into the fourth quarter. That's still a game, that's still a game like you should, if that's a game that you can still win.
For sure.
Yeah, it was a bad game.
I I think, I think you guys just have these bad games and you, you're, you're going to be fine. But I just that was a question that I just asked. Because I feel like half the time I watch him, I'm like, Well, he. I expect him to be the best player on the court, and there's been, I don't know when, he's been the best player on the court. In these playoffs, Jalen Brown's been phenomenal for some games, Derek White's been insane.
Donovan Mitchell was great today. Donovan Mitchell's had games, you know, last series that he was out of this world.
I mean, but it's happened in the past four or five, six years, it's happened many times.
You know what this sounds like, this sounds like on, Uh, Game seven inside the NBA.
Last year, true.
It sounds like, uh, it sounds like on turner. When Shaq, like, directly calls out a player and gives a personal challenge, it sounds like Big Cat is giving a personal challenge. Step up.
I'm fine. Yeah, you're, you're not wrong that this playoffs he hasn't been, you know, super, super superstar level.
He's got to step up again. You're not in trouble, you're not in trouble. It's more that if he plays like this in the finals, I think you might be in a lot of trouble. Agreed.
That's when you need him to step up and be like, No, I'm also, you know, one of these guys.
Yeah, and if there's one knock against him, it would be that he didn't really step up against Warriors, but that experience.
He was 19.
Basically.
Uh, okay, so a prediction for Saturday night?
When by 33..
33.
All right, on track, that's on track.
No, they still won't be on track.
No, if they won by 33, they're bad, they have to win by 33, that was mean.
It's true, you couldn't do 25..
Oh wait, we're not, we're not even taking into account any of the losses that they have, that doesn't factor.
No, he's saying, Oh, no.
Oh, pft.
What?
If they win each, hank saying we're going to win the next three games by 33 each, they'll win by a hundred.
So okay.
What did I say? In the beginning? Point differential would be a hundred plus yes, so right now it's one.
Yes.
But I don't like what you're doing to Mike.
I don't like what you're doing.
I know exactly what you're saying, I just I didn't, I didn't realize that.
It's 67.
I didn't realize that the points scored against you and losses didn't count.
Do you not point differential? Do you know what that means?
In metrics.
Got it?
That you don't understand the fact that right now you guys are up by one point, correct?
That's why I said 33.
So if yes, I'm aware of this, yeah, but the game? If the series goes seven games, then the Cavaliers could win and they could. They could have a 10 point win, they could have an eight point win and a 20 point win. And then you don't get to a hundred.
I'm not, I'm not bad at math.
Got it?
How does that not make sense to you?
No, that makes sense, I'm. I think it's going to be three wins 33, 33, 34..
Yeah, he's saying three wins by 33.
Just to make it, make it nice and even.
Yeah.
I'm saying, you got to do better than that.
No three wins by 33 would make it nice and even.
No, I guess a little, you know?
You want a little extra 101?
Yeah, that's not what I mean.
Well, yeah, you know, you got an extra one.
All right, so, uh, would you say? would you? would you say? We should bet on the Celtics on Saturday night?
I'm not, you know, spreads, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not worried about spreads.
We're going to beat them by 33.
Oh yeah, we should, we should, we should? ask our Uh, correspondent, when, when? When the Sixers go out of the playoffs, Max does become Boston Max, Max, what do you? What do you think about the Celtics right now?
I mean, it's game two, who gives a fuck about the Cavs? Everyone's crying about nothing. We're the Boston Celtics. We're going to beat the fuck out of them the next game. Beat the fuck out of them again, beat the fuck out of them again. And then the Pacers and Knicks are both going to be dead by the time they come us.
That's a clean, sweet, clean, sweet. And then who cares about the West Max? What do you think about your bruins? Uh, the thing about hockey is, I know a lot about hockey and I know that my bruins are going to win in. Five, five, five, five, not a game to City.
Not a game to City.
I like that.
This is Maxachusetts.
Yeah, not a game to City needs to be on a quote card. Uh, okay, other games we've got to talk about the Pacers and the Knicks. How many, how many, uh, things did Rick Carlisle submit to the N.BA?
I think 78.
I think after the game was over, Rick Carlisle I believe it was in the first two games. Yeah, but there are 78 fouls that were either incorrectly called, not called at all, or just blown by the refs, yeah.
Some circumstance. I don't know if he included the phantom double dribble because that was okay.
He definitely included it.
All right, I'm going to, uh, stand up a little bit for Rick Carlisle. If my team is playing a game and there's a flag and you, the whistle's blown, or there's a flag on the field to me, that's been called already. And if you pick it up or you take the whistle back, then you fucked me over by by going back on your incorrect call.
Correct now. It was not a good call. He very clearly didn't touch the ball with two hands, so it never should have been called in the first place. Ended up being, I think, a fair outcome to the play.
But as a fan, or a coach, or a player on one of those teams, once you do that, it's going to really piss me off if you take it back.
Yeah, two things can be true. Uh, the Pacers have had a bad whistle and they got they got screwed in Game one that we talked about on Wednesday. That game one kickball call sucked. They've gotten a bad whistle.
Rick Carlisle is being a gigantic baby. I like, that's dude play T.J. McConnell, more like keep him in the game. He was the he was, he was the guy who was who was making things happen. He played phenomenal and then he took them off.
For the last seven minutes, you blew a double digit lead, you gave up 130 points to Nick's team that has, like, no one left. Start maybe pointing the finger at yourself and not, Oh, they don't like small market team.
Small market team should have been the excuse after, like the at least the third loss. And I get you got to wait on that. Because especially like his whole case, is it's Indiana against New York City, right? The N.B.A. wants the Knicks to advance. I don't know if he's seen the Knicks in the playoffs ever, but the N.BA doesn't do a very good job of advancing the Knicks.
If that's been their agenda, they've been really, really bad at executing that, correct?
That was a yeah, I mean, it's I'm fine with. Like a coach trying to basically make a statement to get the refs to maybe give them a better whistle. But the small market thing like, dude, come on. And also like, you have made some mistakes in the series that have cost your your team. You should have won at least one of these games, you didn't. You're still in this series because the other side of it, the Knicks are essentially the night from Monty Python, like they have no one.
They so, uh, Mitchell Robinson's out for the rest of the playoffs, uh, Og is out for at least game three, but it's feels like more. Jalen Brunson missed the entire second quarter, which credit to, Uh, the TNT crew for, uh, really, giving us great, timely updates when the best player in the series just wasn't there for a quarter.
They had to talk about Reggie Miller and how Reggie Miller used to play against the Knicks, too. They were just wild. It was very crazy because I was watching the game and I was like, Where, what's Jalen doing? where is he? Is he taking a break?
And then I was like, Wait, no, Tibbs is the coach, there's no chance that Jalen's taking a break. And just nothing happened until, like, right before halftime, and then they went back, we saw the replay.
The replay was no help either. Nope, I don't know you like, tweaked his foot or something.
I thought it was groin, then it was foot.
Yeah, but he came back, and I mean, he was. He's a tough motherfucker, yeah.
I mean, he was, he did what he's been doing all these playoffs. He's, he's was like, own the game late. And he's so much fun to watch, and uh, he's just incredible. And he is I. I've had some Knicks fans ask me, Yes, he is.
Anthony Edwards and Jalen Brunson are now officially emerging superstars like they. I still think you have to do it for a couple of years, uh, or maybe one more year, cause they all both did it last year too, but they're absolutely emerging superstars and all over the place. But I, I don't know what the Knicks do now, they don't have, they're just losing guys left and right.
They've got what, like, seven guys now that can Josh Hart.
I think, I think Tibbs just have to, like, have Josh Hart play two positions at once. That guy just never comes out.
He can do it.
He's a fucking dog and that was a great moment at the end. When he, when he, when. He went up to the mic and was like, Hey, I think they're saying, Fuck you to Reggie Miller.
Yeah, it was really good.
That was great Reggie. I mean, why did they fly him in for that game?
I think it's Spike, Lee asked for it.
That sucked.
Yeah.
There's no need for him to be there. Um, just brainstorming out loud. But yeah, that was crazy. They just didn't give us an update on the most important player in the series.
Yeah.
I don't know for an entire quarter.
So he's, he's questionable right now, right? questionable. I don't know if he's going to play. Um, I, my guess is that he's going to try to play.
Yeah, and that Tibbs will be like, please try to play. But that seems like one of those injuries that's going to get worse the day after you heard it than it is at the time.
And this we're getting also to a point where I think, and I've seen Max, he's starting to kind of be like. The the Sixers Knicks series is over. Now it's my Villanova guys, like the only guys they have left are Jalen Brunson, Devincenzo and Josh Hart. They're just going to try to win this title, which is Nova.
Yeah, well, that's what they've been saying. It's like, they're, they're still like best friends, yeah, and it all goes back to Villanova.
Max This would be a championship, it would for Philadelphia.
I think I think Kyle Neptune would be you'd have to give him a contract extension.
Um, disagree.
Okay.
But I do think that what's going on in New York right now only further cements that. Jay Wright's the best college basketball coach of all time.
Okay.
Yeah, that's appropriate, okay, he's going to be like, Uh, you know how? Um, coach Cal had, like all those jerseys of his first round picks in the basement, like, that's going. This Knicks team. If they do happen to win a championship at some point. Uh, coach Wright is definitely going to have like championship banners of this Knicks team hanging up if he ever gets back into coaching.
Were we a curse to the city of New York? We lived there for seven years. And now they're, they're. They're on the precipice of having both teams in the in the Eastern Conference finals.
Yeah.
And you said it from day one, you just wanted them to be good so that you'd have something to like, vibe off of.
Yeah, and we might, I mean, I mean, if it was, maybe be getting Boston, Boston, uh.
New York, New York.
New York, New York.
Yeah, which is crazy. I mean, you might just have to go live there.
Yeah.
For a couple of days. Uh, but yeah, I, I. I. I think the Pacers will probably win on Friday night, just based off, or is it Friday night or Saturday? I think it's Friday.
I think it's Friday, uh, believe.
I, I hate when they do these weird schedules.
It's double header tomorrow.
Yeah, but where the Nuggets play Monday and Friday and then everyone else is still going every two days.
Yeah, that was weird.
Um, I think the. I think the Pacers will get a good whistle, I think with the Knicks injuries, the Pacers will win game three. But uh, the Knicks are like, it's crazy what they're doing. Cause they just keep losing guys and they just keep fighting harder than everyone. Keep offensive rebounding, Jalen Brunson keeps being better and better.
It's nuts. I could see them continuing to just do this, yeah, and have everybody be like, How the fuck is this happening?
It's fun to watch, um, and the Mecca is crazy.
It's buzzing.
It is buzzing, uh, and then the last N.BA game we had was the Mavs, uh, evening, the series one. One Luca on one foot, on no feet.
No feet, no arms, no arms, no teeth either.
Had a had an awesome game, uh, pretty close to a triple double at 29, 10 and seven. And, uh. It was also the the Tim Hardaway game and the P.J. Washington game, because both those guys were lights out.
Tim Hardaway is really good.
Seven for 11 from three.
Also, real quick credit to Hubie Brown. Yeah, like, give a shout out to Hubie Brown, think about Hubie Brown, positive thoughts towards Hubie. The dude is 90 years old.
And no, and he, he's beloved.
Nobody is out there being like, Hubie needs to get off the air, he's mixing stuff up, Hubie is sharp as ever. The game started at what?
8 30 tonight, 8 30 Central. Hubie probably, Hubie probably wakes up at like 6 p.m. Yeah, goes to the game, goes home, goes to bed.
Like, I don't know, four in the morning, you know how old people are? He gets the continental breakfast at like, 7 p.m. Uh, but Hubie is absolutely crushing it.
Yeah, he's, I mean, he's a revelation when you compare it to flying Reggie Miller in.
Yeah, just fly Hubie Hubie Brown around, yeah.
Um, it will be. I mean, I thought this series was going to be a dog fight back and forth, so I'm not surprised the Mavs won this game. And Luca, I will see it, Luca's injured. Luca also likes to let you know he's injured.
Oh yeah.
Well, he really likes to let us know he's injured.
Cause even when he's not injured, he's injured, right? Because maybe you'll get, like, a really late call.
He's he might lead the league in in hit a big shot limp.
Yeah, he, no, he yells.
He does the big, he might be the big ben of the NBA.
He might be, he does.
He could be.
He does two things he'll like, pretend that he's injured after he makes a shot, or he'll. He'll get mad at the ref after he makes a wide open shot where nobody came close to touching him. And he's still mad about something from like five plays ago at that same ref, right? I'll scream at the he's always angry about something.
Yeah, you could actually get Luca, cause, yeah, you're right. Like when he yells at a ref, his injury goes away.
Yeah, so when he's yelling at a ref, the ref needs to be like, Are you injured? or are you yelling at me?
Are you mad? It's like he, it's like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time. Yeah, can't be both.
Right? And it's like, it's like, when my kids are like, when they don't want to eat their dinner, they're like, my tummy hurts. I'm like, Great, we won't have dessert, and they're like, No, my tummy doesn't hurt anymore.
Yep, that's what Luke is doing. When you yell at a ref, it's like, So your leg doesn't hurt? No, no, it still hurts.
Yeah, and there was blood on his one of his sleeves tonight, on his leg.
And he was being extra, He's so good when he's being extra.
What he was doing a really good job of was just staring down at the blood on his leg all the time to make sure everybody knew that there was blood on his leg. Yeah.
What shirt did they wear in the first game? was it white?
I think it was a combo, I think some it was different.
I didn't like the Blue tonight, yeah.
It was all blue, it kind of looked like it was just seats.
Well, and also that's the Mavs colors, too.
Yeah.
I guess they have white as well.
Yeah, but it to the untrained eye. From a distance, across a big room, it looked like it was just empty seats there, but I'm sure it was loud.
This series is going to be very fun. Should we talk a little hockey? The Rangers are an absolute wagon. They're up 3-0 against the Hurricanes in the hockey world. The Hurricanes, I think, are the big time Fraud Alert team because every year they're the advanced analytics, love them and they just do this.
So it looks, I mean, the Rangers haven't lost in these playoffs. So you actually did you guys go to overtime in any of your games? No, did we. No, I don't think so.
I was going to say, maybe you will lose less.
We, yeah, on aggregate, but they went to overtime.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I was trying to spin zone the Capitals, stink, I don't, don't patronize the Capitals.
I'm not trying to patronize.
Bad team The Rangers 7-0 last time they were 7-0 won the Stanley Cup 94 94. Feels like 94..
Feels like 94 Marc Massia.
O.J. In the news for death again, yeah.
Yeah, and the and Pavel bure in the Canucks, and those those Canucks uniforms rocked. Yeah, they were like, bad, but awesome, yeah.
That was a that was a very fun game.
Yeah.
Um, so the Vancouver crowd, they, yeah, love their hockey.
Yeah, oh, that, that, yeah, that Vancouver, uh, Oilers game, I, I have to admit I did fall asleep. And I was shocked at the score because it felt like the Oilers had that game and even like, even in the first period, it was, it was very workman-like. Oilers get a power play, they score.
Okay, we're off and running, everything's good and the Canucks just period of the week, period of the week was the third period to come back and win that game.
That's my period, absolutely.
That was awesome. So, I mean, the Canucks biz told us, like, trucks kind of have no business, like they were not no business. But they didn't have the expectations of being this team this year, and they just keep getting, they keep finding a way.
Yeah, Hank, credit to your bruins, though, for scrapping it up a little bit.
That was an awesome fight it was.
Well, yeah, he got punched right in his head.
Well, he got cheap shot. I was going to say that pasta taking that fight was awesome because he's not a fighter, and Chuck is like a bad-ass pasta. Asked, like, you asked the coach for permission?
Yeah.
Well, no, he, I don't think he asked for permission. I think he told him he was doing it. And you could see the coach be like, what, Oh, okay, you want to do this?
Go ahead, that's what you should absolutely do. In a game where you get your teeth kicked. In the playoffs, you should always get into a fight at the end of it, yeah.
Yeah, the swimming magic wore off a little bit, but he was, you know?
Unconscious before that? So it was, you know, water always finds this level. But it'll be a big bounce back. I'm interested to see the bounce back. Uh, tonight. So possibly you gotta, you gotta load up on some pasta props.
Yeah, did, did. Chuck's not getting a suspension or anything, right? That was a cheap shot at the end. Yeah, like the I think the first.
He hit him on the way down.
Well, I think the one.
And then hit him again.
I think the hit on the way down was like, borderline. Okay, because they're still fighting, but the one when he was all the way down, it's like, Come on, dude.
Yeah, you can't do that, yeah.
Don't do that, um, and then the The Stars win, they beat the UH, Avalanche. I think we got some good series going, except for the Rangers Hurricanes, that's over.
I did not watch any of the Stars Avalanche tonight. But, um, in theory, I know that that's an electric series. So next time we have desert wind on, I'll just be like, what a great series, yeah.
Tell us how to a great team, you tell us how great that is. Um, okay, I had some rapid fire things. If you guys are down for it.
I got one thing, too.
You go.
Okay, the NFL is king. Yes, is this a rapid fire thing, yet? no.
Okay, the NFL is king. They're doing Christmas Games again this year. That's not the news. The news is that it looks like they're going to be maybe two games. All the Christmas Day games on Netflix, which is interesting because Netflix has never broadcast an NFL game before.
Correct, I don't know who the answer is going to be. Is Netflix going to have their own announcing crew?
You said, Maybe, Brady.
Are they going to rent Tom Brady for a day and then he'll go on Sunday and work at Fox?
Continue the roast.
Yeah, continue the roast. You know what? Here's the thing that should really piss the NBA off about this, and the NFL can do whatever the fuck they want.
And they're going to dominate the N.BA in ratings. Not only are they taking away Christmas Day from the N.BA, they're also taking away the ability of people to comfortably change the channel to the N.B.A. games. Correct during commercial breaks, quarter breaks and halftime. Signing out of Netflix, turning on to cable if you're watching on cable or to a different streaming app. Such a pain in the dick to do that.
And so they're taking away even the pity ratings that you would get for, like, a quick two minute check-in on the N.B.A. Christmas Games.
And remember, Christmas is on a Wednesday this year, and the NFL had previously said they weren't going to touch like middle of the week, Christmas Day. Remember last year? They were like, because there is a rule there. They don't do Friday night games because of high school football, but last year they're like, fuck it, we'll do a Friday afternoon game.
Black Friday now it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter when the game's going to be, they're going to play it.
And we'll show up, yeah, we're going to watch it.
Do you think there's a chance any of our teams are in it?
On Christmas.
Yeah, how many games are there?
I mean, our teams.
The Axe probably has the best chance.
They do love scheduling the bears in primetime, and for a national audience, they love doing that.
I think we might get a primetime game again. I think we actually all might get primetime games against each other because of the draft.
Oh, because of the rookies.
Yeah.
Are we playing each other again?
Yeah, the Bears and the Patriots are that weird, uh, like, added game, you know how it was.
We played each other.
I know with the 17 game season, it's you play a whole division and there's one added from the other conference. And for some reason, we drew you, uh, but. And then we play again.
We're going to play again, I hope it's Thursday night, as is tradition.
Tattoo Bet?
Tattoo bet run it back. Yep, they're probably going to do. It's later on the season, so it might even be a divisional game.
What? oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because it's Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, because they had the Raiders and the Chiefs last year.
Yeah.
How many games are there?
Uh, two or three, I'm not sure.
Give us a whole.
I heard the perm bet thing brought up. I just want to say for the record, I've said this a few times. Um, I wanted to do the perm bet during the live stream. I agree. Put memes in charge of that.
Last year, yeah.
Put memes in charge of that one and memes like, Okay, I'll do it. And then he told me, like, two days after I told him to do that, he's like, Yeah. I don't know if we're going to be able to get the person to come out. So I didn't have enough time to schedule the person.
I will do a perm if somebody else, if somebody max.
Good, good accountability.
If Max or Meme schedules the perm, I will absolutely do it.
Love that.
But now we have to, like, make it a moment, though, like it would be boring if we just did in the middle of summer. It has to be during football season. I agree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should like during it, like Superbowl, yeah, we should wait.
We should wait.
I'm down and do it whenever.
Yeah, we have to do dingers only soon.
Oh yeah, baseball.
Oh, we'll do it for July 4th.
Yeah.
July 4th, yeah.
Uh, okay, ready for my rapid fire? Yep, uh, first up. Shout out Colin Coward. We don't really like him, but credit to him for going backwards.
Coach Take with J.J. Redick and saying J.J. Redick could not be a coach cause he's wearing a backwards hat.
Yeah, good, keep fucking that chicken.
I mean, I just I. Once we get to the coaches, by the way, J.J. Redick is going to be the next coach Lakers, right?
LeBron is really defending, he LeBron defended. J.J. Redick against Colin Coward. Yeah.
It feels like it feels like he could be, feels like JJ is is the hot name out there.
And this is based off no information, but I I'm more based off just seeing LeBron defending, cause LeBron doesn't interact with Colin Coward.
Yeah, and you know what? When we asked JJ when he was on the show how he would feel about coaching the Lakers, he said They have a coach. He didn't say, he didn't really answer the question.
They have a coach. Um, that leads me to my next rapid fire. It sucks to have to coach now. Sucks in a relative term, because these guys make millions of dollars, uh, and they get paid to not work. But Frank Vogel got fired from the Suns today.
Darwin Ham got fired last week. That's gotta be the worst job in sports as a head coach right now is signing up to coach a super team. Because no matter what happens, it's never the player's fault, it's always a coach's fault.
Yeah, I think the trick is to coach a super team, but it's when they're in their late twenties, early thirties.
Yeah.
If you get older superstars that are that are joining up to form a super team also. Bradley Beal I don't know. Can you call the sons of Super Team?
Well, they tried to, they tried, kind of like the Eagles when they were a super team.
Yeah, it was an attempted super team.
But oh, yeah.
Dream Team? It was attempted big three, I just like Darwin Ham, and it was it was not a great coach. Frank Vogel has a championship.
Maybe it wasn't a great coach for the sons he had, it doesn't matter.
He had a decent regular season, right?
And it. But it doesn't matter, because if you don't, if you flame out in the playoffs with one of these teams, with a big three or a super team. You are the fall guy. Every, every single time, it's never the players.
Do you think maybe Pat Riley is a secret genius? And that's why, when the heat, everyone was saying like, Pat Riley is going to come down and take over the job from Spolstra. Yeah, was he a genius? By just being like, I'm going to, I'm going to let this guy coach the team.
Yeah, so that way he'll be fired, I won't have to fire myself.
And Spoh is just he's one of the best coaches, but yeah, I don't know what. If if the Lakers offered SPOH $15 million a year, I, he'd probably have to take it because it'd be $15 million a year. But I think he would think twice. Being like, if we don't win a championship, I'm the only guy who's going to get played.
How much do you think he gets paid?
I don't know what NBA coaches like, he probably gets like seven or eight.
I don't know, I'm doing California tax math right now compared to Florida. Oh, good point.
Yeah.
Good point. It probably has to be closer to 17 18..
Have to deal with Gavin Newsom on a regular basis.
You have to go to French laundry with him.
Uh, let me see Eric Spolstra salary. Eric Spolstra salary, Oh, he already makes 15 million a year.
Oh yeah, he, he's going to need, like he's going to need like 23..
15 million a year. He deserves it, yep.
Uh, all right.
So what if it was the yeah? So if they offered him? 30? Pop is number one at 16..
Okay, yeah, I mean, your point is valid. Which is like, if you have old superstars that are uniting with each other. And and they still have the championship expectations. And they've never played together and they've had long careers before trying to make this team work. You're kind of signing up on your own death warrant right there. Yeah, like, exactly.
If you don't at least get to a championship, there's a chance you could be fired, yeah.
Right, um, the next rapid fire uh thing. We should have talked about it with the Celtics, but that was some peak peak sports talk radio, uh with Uh. Who is Tony Maz?
Felger Maz.
Saying, Kings, you saw this clip pft.
I did not see this one.
It was one of the greatest sports radio uh moments, and I when I say greatest, the worst. He said that, Uh, if the Celtics win the championship this year, doesn't it feel a little hollow because there's not really any good teams?
It's a good point, and I hadn't thought about that.
All time take, Uh, that was, that was a we don't have anything to talk about, take.
No, they're, they're all time contrarians.
Hey, quick question for you if the Celtics, if they win the championship this year, doesn't it feel a little bit hollow?
No, yeah.
Cause the East is so bad.
No.
Okay, yeah.
I'd say it's a quick no.
So did they actually have a discussion about that?
Uh, I saw like, a 30 second clip. But yeah, he was like, Felger was like, Uh, no, it's the N.B.A. dude. And he's like, Well, like, why don't they just play, play a Y.M.CA team and call it a championship?
They're the number one show in town, crazy. They just have riled up the city of Boston for the last 15 years. Bruins, Celtics, Patriots, Red Sox.
What if they only played against, like girls teams in high school, and for some reason, that's the N.B.A. schedule and they win? Hollow, think about it, but yeah.
What's the difference between that and this?
I just, I just love when sports talk radio guys are just like, You know what, let's just fucking. We have nothing really to talk about. Let's just say that this championship doesn't, that it doesn't exist yet doesn't count if it does exist.
This is what's so funny about Boston is they've won so many things that they're already like figuring out reasons to not get super excited about the next championship.
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