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On July 4th, 2023, Angel Studios launched Sound of Freedom. It's hard to exaggerate its success. First filmed in 2018, it sat on the shelf for over four years. The filmmakers suggested Hollywood had something to hide. But that changed when the small Utah-based Angel Studios picked it up and made it into a phenomenon.

Its success foisted the entire film team into stardom. But since the movie's launch, Red Pilled America has been investigating the claims made by the film's alleged real-life hero, Tim Ballard. And what we've found is shocking. This 4th of July, Red Pilled America will be launching its first video investigation with an exclusive interview. Kelly Johanna Suarez.

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It was October 2014 when a sensational story hit CBS News.

. That transaction was never completed. 25 Colombian special operatives stormed the party, arresting five suspects, four men, and one former beauty queen, all charged with child trafficking.

It was so perfectly executed that it almost seemed like it was a fairy tale. And that's because, in many ways, it was. You see, the CBS News report was littered with fake news. And what's perhaps most troubling is a significant detail about the sting would ultimately be kept from the public.

And Red Pilled. America has uncovered so much more. We've learned that Tim Ballard's origin story of why he became a child sex slave liberator is largely a fabrication.

We've also acquired government documents that show that a kidnapped child sex slave that Ballard is credited with saving was, in fact, not a kidnapped child sex slave. The list of exaggerations, conflations, and falsehoods we've discovered makes the Sound of Freedom and Tim Ballard's own real-life origin story effectively works of fiction. These are just a few in a sea of red flags connected to Tim Ballard's child sex slave rescue operations. Yet right-wing media has almost unanimously refused to ask Tim Ballard any hard questions about his work or his growing list of controversies. With conservative media completely dropping the ball on this whole affair, it got us to wondering, what is the purpose of conservative media?

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The truth.

Welcome to Red Pilled America.

At first glance, the answer may seem obvious. To report the truth. The entire industry of right-wing media arose to counter the lies spread by the mainstream media. Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, Fox News, Andrew Breitbart, and others would never have come to prominence if the legacy media had just stuck to reporting the facts. But some recent events have made us question whether reporting the truth is the actual purpose of conservative media, a community that we've long considered Red Pilled America to be a part of.

If reporting the truth is not the mission of right-wing media, what is? And perhaps most importantly, what should we expect out of the American institution of media? To find the answer, we're going to take a deep dive into the topic of human sex trafficking. It's a subject that has captured the attention of the American right-wing, and just so happens to be the perfect vehicle into analyzing the current state of conservative media, while getting a glimpse into where it's going. But before we get started, a warning.

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Yet, every time we tried, we ran into a problem with the story. We went down one path, then another, then another. With each attempt to enter the subject, for one reason or another, we ultimately had to shelve the story. That's not normal for us. When we put our focus on a topic, especially one popular within conservative circles, it typically doesn't take very long to land on a compelling story.

But for some reason, the topic of human sex trafficking was proving to be a difficult nut to crack. That is, until now. We've come to a conclusion that the best way to enter the subject of human trafficking is to chronicle our search for a story on the topic. For us, it all started in the summer of 2019.. Someone claiming to be a listener of our show, a person who went by the pseudonym Rachel, began contacting us, claiming to have been a victim of human sex trafficking.

We get story pitches all the time. In fact, we welcome them. A few pan out. Most don't. But when we were initially contacted by Rachel, we didn't immediately jump on the story.

We had other pressing topics on our plate. However, it wasn't long after receiving Rachel's pitch that a man named Yaku Boyens landed in our social media feeds, and he appeared to be a perfect pathway into the topic. Yaku is a pioneer of sorts within America's anti-sex trafficking community. In 2014,, he premiered a movie called Eight Days, a film marketed as based on actual events. Proceeds from the movie went to his then-child sex slave rescue organization.

Yaku had formed a business model around the issue of sex trafficking. In many ways, his project was like Sound of Freedom, but released nearly a decade earlier. The movie positioned Yaku as an expert on the topic of sex trafficking within conservative media. At the time, in the summer of 2019, he'd just given a speech at a Turning Point USA event, a non-profit organization that sells conservatism to high school and college students. Yaku had been hitting our radar enough to warrant our attention.

So we reached out to him, and he agreed to an interview.

His sister, Ilanka.

We think she needs to take a break, and my mom started almost demanding she's going to take a break from music. That's when they took her, physically, took her, and removed her where she was gone. So you can call that a kidnapping, or they took her. They actually separated her from us, the family, and there was a period where nobody knew where Ilanka was and couldn't find her.

And then, finally, there's a particular officer that became close to the family, because he did a lot of security at a lot of Ilanka's, you know, at the venues. He was not her security, but we became friendly with him over time. And my mom implored this particular officer, he was a detective, and said, listen, I'm telling you, this is not a runaway. You need police to get resources and dive in. And then there was a physical rescue.

He's made a movie on the subject of human sex trafficking. I figured elaborating was in his wheelhouse. So I asked him for more detail on the rescue. For your sister's rescue, how did that go down? I mean, was there, um, can you go into that in a little bit more detail?

And let's give people a mental picture of things they've seen. You know, we always go to the movies because that's kind of how people depict society. That's not accurate.

When we do these interviews, we're used to receiving concrete details. The kind of specifics that paints a clear picture of what happened. It's never the same, but there are usually certain intangibles that convey a firsthand account of the events. And also a few kernels of information that helps us corroborate the story. Everyone we talk to does it differently.

But as an interviewer, the common thread is a feeling of being in the moment when listening to the person we're interviewing. Instead, like a lot of our talk up to this point, Yaku would take me on tangents and speak in generalities.

People always know. In our society, people always know.

I am getting information. And then there was a physical, call it a raid, right? An intervention moment where there was a rescue. Dramatic. Anything you can imagine, that you can see in your mind.

And we depict a rescue in the movie Eight Days, which, by the way, all the events in Eight Days are actual events. Documented, actual events. We did not take.

When there is a dramatic rescue of your sister, a rescue that you claim to have played a role in, and it's one of the cornerstones of your origin story to becoming an anti-human sex trafficking advocate, you'd expect a little more detail on the rescue, then.

There was a voice that said this should not happen to another child. And so I became active in, we've got to stop it. It's no longer now just my sister.

And, on top of everything, the details as Yaku described them were just too vague. His story sent off red flags. And when we went back to listen to his discussion on the topic with other outlets, we couldn't find much more detail. We were surprised that so many Christian and conservative media outlets weren't a bit more probing on his story. Now, before we go any further, we understand that it's hard to tell sexual assault-related stories and that often the victims and even the suspected perpetrators' identities need to be withheld.

We launched Red Pilled America on the story of Mr. Creepy, a father at our daughter's prestigious private elementary school that was getting into bed with other people's kids. We didn't name Mr. Creepy in the episode, but we named enough people around the incident, big Hollywood celebrities, that if any inquiring minds wanted to dig into the story, they could. We later named the elementary school where it happened, and we'd told the story earlier at Breitbart News.

Before publishing the story there, it had to be vetted through their legal department, which meant providing receipts in the form of email exchanges with Mr. Creepy and the school. As far as we could see, that couldn't be done with Yaku's story. We're not saying that something awful didn't happen with his sister or his family. And in his defense, unlike today, in the mid to late 1990s, when he claimed this tragic event occurred, everything was not electronically documented.

But ultimately, the lack of detail, ability to corroborate, and a few other red flags made it so that the story just wasn't meeting our standards for broadcast. So why are we publishing the story now? Well, we'll get to that later. But ultimately, at the time, we didn't feel comfortable publishing Yakuboyan's story. So we shelved it and moved on to another potential human sex trafficking story.

And when we did, we discovered the glaring problem with this topic, a problem that many conservative media are simply ignoring.

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She went by the pseudonym Rachel. At the time, human sex trafficking was becoming a hotter and hotter topic, and there was a reason for that. Shortly after being arrested for federal sex trafficking charges in July 2019, Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his jail cell.

We wanted an entry into the subject. Yaku's didn't pan out. So we decided to interview Rachel for a potential story. Rachel had written a book on her alleged experience as a sex slave. So we started off by just hearing what the book was all about.

We've changed Rachel's voice to protect her identity.

It goes through what I recognized as the schemes that he was doing and then how I got out, and the legal trouble he got in afterwards, which actually isn't for anything relating to me, except that it was his front company.

Once that was discovered, the woman abruptly exited the interview. But the employer, let's call him Amit, struck up a conversation with Rachel. Maybe we can help each other out, he told Rachel, in so many words. In her telling, Rachel had been tasked by her boss to find a new office space, and Amit claimed to be able to help her out with that endeavor if she sent her clients his direction. The two eventually made their way out to dinner.

Then, after, Amit invited Rachel back to his office.

I could have walked out, said, you know what, I'm going to find someone else to help me with this lease. And the Holy Spirit told me, no. I knew better. But I wanted love so badly. I wanted affirmation so badly.

And I was the girl in high school that never had a date, and I had never been kissed before.

And I looked at him and I said, then why don't you just let me go? And he said, because I'm not done with you yet. And I said, I don't care, I'm going to leave anyway. And he said to me, I know you, Rachel, you're a Christian and you are a virgin. I only take virgins.

And you can't handle being married to someone who isn't the first person that you've had sex with. So you're not going anywhere. And he was right.

At one point, Rachel suspected Amit even wanted to take her to Saudi Arabia to sell her into sex slavery.

And I looked at him and I was like, Saudi Arabia? Like, he's Indian. Why Saudi Arabia? And he was like, oh, it's magical. It's amazing.

You're going to love it. I'm going to take you there. And I remember in my mind thinking, oh, my gosh, that movie, Not Without My Daughter. I'd seen it in high school. Our civics teacher or government teacher showed it to us.

And it made an impression. And I honestly do think that movie helped save my life, because I remember thinking, no, if I go to a country like that, I'm not going to get out because I don't have any rights in an Islamic-run country.

It was her word versus his. The statute of limitations had expired and the proof she provided just didn't cut it. One email she offered up as proof was an email exchange with one of her colleagues around the time of Amit's arrest for financial fraud, where she mentioned Amit. Another was an email exchange over a decade after her alleged ordeal, where she confessed to her former employer that she'd been a sex slave and had written a book about it. Amit no doubt sounded like a monster.

And the kind of fraud he was arrested for proved he was a morally reprehensible man. And I have to say that Rachel appeared to sincerely believe she was a sex slave. But at the time, what she provided was not enough to publish the ordeal, as she described, as a true story. Without some form of evidence, we couldn't allow her to use a pseudonym on our show while accusing a man by name of a heinous crime, even if Amit was a documented scumbag. She even implicated some of his family members in a crime.

We had no real way of knowing if a crime was ever committed. It was another failed attempt at entering the topic of human sex trafficking. And this was from someone that published a book on the topic. But Rachel's story did get us to thinking about the issue in a way we hadn't before. And when we got around to going down that rabbit hole, it showed the disturbing reality of investigating human sex trafficking.

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My name is Michael Wolff, and I'm the host of Fire & Fury, the podcast. Not too long ago, I saw Donald Trump, and he shouted, Hey, Michael, I made you rich. And the truth is, my three books about Trump, they have sold a lot of copies. It all started eight years ago. I found myself in Donald Trump's Beverly Hills home, sharing Häagen-Dazs ice cream with him.

I asked him, why was he running for president? And he answered, without missing a beat, because I want to be the most famous man in the world. Since then, I've become a go-to person when Trump and those around him want to talk. And now, every week, I'm going to share those insider stories with you. Listen to Fire & Fury, the podcast, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Entrepreneurs and engineers describe the future they're going to build. once they solve a few problems. How do you build a drone delivery business from scratch? Our customers, they want us to do this unbelievably reliably, in the storms, no matter what, hundreds of times a day. How do you turn a wild dream about a new kind of biology into a $10 billion company?

We didn't have a particular technology. We didn't have a way of making money. It was a great way to start a company. I highly recommend it.

How do you sell millions of dollars worth of dog ramps for wiener dogs in the middle of a pandemic?

Like our recent episode with comedians, writers, and partners in life, Tig Notaro and Stephanie Allen. I felt like I discovered my sexuality late. I now look back and go, God, I wasn't that old. And I think people carry a lot of shame and guilt for not having figured things out, and then they feel like it's too late to start or try or change things. And we both, I think, were really drawn to just that idea of going, you know what?

You can do whatever you want, whenever, and your life will be forever greater for having done it. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

So after listening to Rachel's story about being a sex slave, we decided not to move forward with the story. She sounded sincere, but she couldn't provide any compelling evidence that connected the man she named to a crime. We had no real way of knowing if a crime was ever committed. It was another failed attempt at entering the topic of human sex trafficking, and this was from someone that published a book on the topic. But Rachel's story did get us to thinking about the issue in a way we hadn't before.

Much of what Rachel told us about her alleged ordeal as a sex slave sounded like she was at times a willing participant. If her story was true, it appeared that she made a series of extremely poor decisions that put her in a very bad situation, and Rachel had many opportunities to just leave. She said as much throughout the interview.

Therefore, what he's saying must be the only answer. Now I know, okay, go to a police officer. Go to a restaurant and ask for help. Ask them to call somebody. Go anywhere and ask them any business.

Go to the front desk and say, I'm in trouble. Can you help me? But in the moment, that never dawned on me. All that dawned on me was, oh, you're right, it is dark. I don't have money.

Therefore, what you're suggesting, staying at your aunt's place, must be the only solution. So I didn't fight him that night, and I brought my big bag, my big duffel bag, in, and that night he raped me, and his aunt and uncle were outside keeping watch, and I never was free again until I was able to run away.

as far as what we're looking for in practice.

But then a journalist came up with an idea to force the issue. Again, Kimberly Millman Orozco.

T. Steed, who was the editor in London of the Palmall Gazette, he's known to some as one of the fathers of investigative journalism. He wanted to do an exposé on child sex trafficking in London. The purpose of this exposé was because he had tried for a number of years, and a number of politicians had tried, to increase the age of consent laws, and they had failed. And so he had concocted this idea to go undercover and to expose the virgins that were being sex trafficked and the orphans, and how many children were being sold for sex in this underground, sex-trafficked economy among prostitutes and sex workers in London.

They had access to reformed women that had left the brothels but still had knowledge of the terrain. He himself even went undercover into the brothels. Within a matter of a few weeks, he began penning a series of articles entitled The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon for the paper he edited, the Palmall Gazette. With the series, he wanted to introduce what he claimed to have found appalling, unthinkable sexual behavior occurring right under the noses of the British people. W.T.

Steed headlined one salacious section, A Child of Thirteen Bought for Five Pounds. In it, Steed told the story of how a female procurer purchased a young virgin as a sex slave for a well-to-do older man.

After purchasing young Lily, the brothel keeper then turned around and sold Lily to the female procurer. The female procurer gave the brothel keeper a three-pound down payment, withholding an additional two pounds until Lily's virginity could be certified by a midwife. Steed continued his shocking tale, writing that the procurer whisked Lily away to a midwife. The young girl was completely oblivious to the transaction and her obligations. To add to the girl's tragic situation, Steed explained that young Lily was.

The midwife eventually certified Lily's virginity. In turn, the procurer paid the midwife for her services. Steed added a graphic detail that would put any decent human being into a blind rage, writing that the procurer purchased a bottle of chloroform from the midwife, a drug used to dull the young girl's pain. when she was eventually forced to give her virginity to the purchaser. The midwife also agreed to patch up young Lily if the sexual encounter left her injured.

Lily was then taken to a brothel. Steed continued, writing.

T. Steed personally vouched for the absolute accuracy of every fact in his story. He openly hoped his story would help end this white child slavery. the same way Uncle Tom's Cabin helped end American chattel slavery.

Again, Dr. Orozco.

The city solicitor issued a fine to young men displaying the newspaper headlines near St. Paul's Cathedral. When Steed heard of the fines, he warned that his articles would have consequences for prominent public men and even the royal family.

Responding to the outrage over the pornographic nature of the series, shopkeepers removed Steed's newspapers from their stands. In turn, Christians from the Salvation Army took over the distribution by hitting the streets to help sell them directly to the clamoring public. A government official requested that Steed cease further publishing of the series, to which Steed responded not until the criminal law amendment bill that raised the age of consent was passed into law. The articles became so hot that Steed's printing presses ran out of paper. He had to secure rolls from his rival newspaper, The Globe.

Copies of the articles were being resold for 20 times the sale price of one penny. Bootleggers were even making pirated copies of the series to fulfill the demand.

T. Steed's four-part expose was an international sensation. People were astonished that white virgins as young as 13 years of age were being sold into sex slavery for a mere five pounds.

His entire lily story was staged. W.T. Steed claimed he wanted to expose the pimps selling children into slavery. But in actuality, it was him that was the pimp. By pimping a lie, he hoped that his series would become the British equivalent of the American novel Uncle Tom's Cabin.

And in one way, it did. Just like Uncle Tom's Cabin, Steed's expose was a work of fiction. The Christian journalist did a very unchristian thing. He used his ink to con the world. And by the time the whole affair was finished, it would reveal the big problem with fighting the very real crime of human sex trafficking.

It was a false story that spread this sort of moral panic about child sex trafficking. And it just kept on proliferating, this idea of child sex trafficking.

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