The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 10/29/23 - Nick Searcy, Dinesh D'Souza, and some great rants

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First up today, we talk with Nick Searcy.

He's a pretty famous actor.

You probably know him from a lot of those famous shows and movies out there.

Did you know he was in Moneyball, by the way, one of my favorite movies, and Days of Thunder

too.

We talked to him about his acting career and Hollywood's aversion to conservatives and

about his role in our new movie, Police State, which is tearing it up in theaters.

Check this out.

Man, I'm like extra super stoked about talking to this next guest.

Super stoked.

Sound like I smoke weed or something.

Bro, I'm like super, I don't, I'm not a drug guy.

Drugs is not my bag of donuts.

Maybe a little tequila or some vino tinto once in a while, but the Drugos, no good.

Don't do them.

This is your brain.

I remember that growing up with a little egg stuff, but I'm really excited about this guest

because I've grown up watching him in movies and on TV, a very, very famous actor.

And before you, oh, my gosh, actor, yes, he's actually a conservative, which is so

crazy in the acting space.

Welcoming to the show.

The great Nick Searcy.

Nick, thank you so much for spending some time with us.

Really appreciate it.

Dan, great to be here.

Looking forward to meeting you in person this weekend.

Oh, me too.

It's going to be great.

Now, you have you've had a long and I mean, really long career in Hollywood.

You've been in so many movies that when I first heard about you, I looked you up.

I couldn't believe it.

You've been in two of my favorite movies, Days of Thunder, which I love.

People crapped on Days of Thunder.

I love Days of Thunder.

Anytime it's on TV, I watch it all the time.

My father used to race cars for a living.

He did figure eight and Moneyball, which we cite on the show all the time.

So you've been around a really long time.

Nobody knows Hollywood better than you.

So what's why do you think it is that 80 plus percent of them, at least openly, are

such diehard liberals, given that they make a lot of money are affected by tax policy

and the Democrats largely hurt the cities they live in, like the West Coast and East

Coast?

I think the reasons are fairly complex.

I mean, I get asked that all the time.

It is hard to understand.

I think a lot of it is group think.

I mean, I think a lot of it is like it's so hard to get a job as an actor that you want

to erase all the factors that might disqualify you.

And if your politics might disqualify you, then you just sort of a lot of them just sort

of adopt right politics because they know it would hurt them to come out as a conservative.

And it's also the nature of being an actor.

You're basically an empath.

You know, a lot of times you're trying to imagine what another person feels.

And that's not necessarily translate into analytical thought, if you know what I mean.

So we've got a lot of healing, you know, feelings directed people out in Hollywood.

We're talking to Nick Searcy, award winning actor, just a tremendous guy.

And he loves this country, folks.

I mean, really, really loves this country.

Nick, you you were justified was obviously a huge moment for you.

You were I mean, people love the show.

It's going to live on in syndication forever.

You you were you've been a household name for a long time because I spoke to John Rich

about the country music scene, about this, too, what you just said that he said.

Yeah, I think it's hard to break through in the music industry just like it is Hollywood.

But he said guys like him and guys like you that have a body of work, you guys have the

luxury of being able to speak out and kind of lend your voice to others who are probably

quiet. So my question to you before we get to the movie is, is there a quiet bubble of

Hollywood people out there who are, in fact, conservative and unlike you are just kind

of afraid to speak out about it?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, there's an awful lot of people who if you if you didn't know their name,

you would know their face who kind of come up to me all the time.

You know, I work with them here and there and they're like, well, I really agree with

you. But if I really came out like you did, I know it would I would never work again.

And I've got four kids and all that, you know.

So and, you know, in a way, I don't blame them.

It's not like they these people are not like vocal on the other side.

They're they're kind of what my friend Adam Baldwin calls noncombatant.

They're they're on our side, but they're not really going to take up arms with us.

Right. They're like those those people in the video game.

You can't actually play the character.

They're just there in the background.

I totally get it.

NPCs. Yeah, they're NPCs.

Yeah, the NPCs. Right, right.

We're talking to Nick Searcy.

So, Nick, when Dinesh D'Souza initially initially called me and he said, Dan, I'm really

thinking about doing this project about this metastasizing cancerous police state going

after Donald Trump, going after Tea Party groups.

I said, Dinesh, I'm in.

Just you got to tell me who's associated with the project.

And he said, well, Nick Searcy's guy said, that's it.

I'm good. Like, I'm in.

I didn't need to hear anything else.

I'm dead serious.

Like, he'll tell you. I was like, I love Nick.

If it's you and Dinesh, like a soul, don't even worry about it.

You're in the movie Police State.

I went and saw it in a theater in Stewart, Florida, on Monday with a group of people.

It's the first time, Nick, I've seen a movie with the computer effects and the sound, the

dialogue. Obviously, I saw the dialogue, but the sound.

And I think you being a Hollywood guy, you'll understand this more than the audience or

even me. When I saw the screen or without the music beds and without the effects, I

still love the movie.

But you don't realize how much the music and the effects and the credits and stuff add

to the theatrical experience, because I got choked up as if I'd never seen the movie

before in my life when I saw it in the theater.

Yeah, I was moved a couple of times myself.

And yeah, I mean, when you get it all put together like that, it really is it's a really

well done production.

I mean, the graphics, the music, every aspect of Police State is really, really well

done. And, you know, when Dinesh called me to do it, he said, you know, we're going to

do some reenactments.

And, you know, we'd really like for you to play the lead FBI guy.

And I said two things.

I said, well, that'll be fun.

I've played Democrats before.

And and the other thing I said was, yeah, I think this will get me a lot of work in

Hollywood. So, yeah, I'm in.

So, Nick, you're a mate.

You actually steal the show in the movie, which I'm slightly angry about because I told

my dad to go see the movie and he didn't mention my part in it at all.

He only mentioned you.

He's like, man, the justified guy, Nick, is it?

I said, yes, dad, I know, I know.

And he said, he's so great as the FBI guy.

But one of the things about the movie is you play the lead FBI.

It's kind of a docudrama.

It's a lot of documentary footage and obviously interviews and stuff.

And the movie's been just blowing people away.

The reviews have been incredible.

But did you do a lot of character homework with FBI guys?

And the reason I ask is I've been a law enforcement guy my whole life.

And there's little moments in the movie that if you're not law enforcement, I don't

think people will catch like my wife missed it.

There's one scene where you're talking to a junior FBI agent in the car and you call

him an FNG, which is a law enforcement term for, let's just say, blanking new guy.

And my wife had no idea what that meant.

And I'm like, Nick must have heard that somewhere and done some character study.

So did you talk to Kyle and these other guys, the FBI guys?

How did you dig into that character?

Oh, yeah. Well, Kyle, Kyle Seraphin and Steve Friend were great technical advisors.

They were with me and they they gave me a lot of those terms and a lot of that

dialogue, really. They fed me that stuff.

But, you know, for one thing, I've played a lot of law enforcement.

That's a lot of what I've done in my career.

I mean, Justified was U.S.

Marshal. I've played cops.

I mean, patrol, everything, every every law enforcement official.

I don't think you can name one that I haven't played.

So I've been around it for a long time.

And the other thing is that, you know, I was there on January 6th and I made a film

about it, you know, and I've been interviewing people for two years.

We're working on the sequel now called Capital Punishment.

The sequel, of course, is Capital Punishment, too.

But I'm very familiar with what the FBI has been doing.

I've interviewed a lot of people who've had their doors broken down and and, you

know, the way they've been treated and talked to by these FBI raids.

And so it was something that I was quite familiar with.

And that, you know, when Dinesh asked me to be part of it, I was like, absolutely.

This is an issue I care deeply about and I want to be a part of this.

We're talking to Nick Searcy.

He is the lead in our new film, Police State.

It is out again tonight in theaters.

It's been selling out across the country.

The website is PoliceStateFilm.net.

It's the only place you can buy tickets.

Nick, I think the you know, a good movie.

Again, this is your business.

And if I'm wrong, cut me off at the knees.

But I love movies.

I love films, you know, and I think a good movie, even a mediocre movie, is a good

movie with a good beginning and a good end.

But a great movie is a good middle, but a great beginning and a great end.

And the one thing I'm hearing about this movie across the country, I think you're

hearing, too, is the beginning just grabs you.

I mean, just right away rips you in.

And the end scene, without giving it away, everybody's getting up in the theaters

singing our national anthem.

It's for a reason.

The beginning and the end of this movie are just I mean, they get the closet in.

It doesn't let go.

Yeah, and it's terrifying.

And the fact of the matter is, even though it's a reenactment, I mean, that is

exactly what is happening to these people.

You get people who went to Washington on January 6th who never went in the

building, never been arrested for anything before in their lives.

And suddenly they're treated like they are cartel leaders or serial killers.

When, you know, people like this, this is what you would expect, you know, a phone

call to say, hey, we'd like to talk to you instead of treating them like they're

some dangerous criminal when they've actually never committed a violent act in

their entire lives.

And then, you know, the ending is so moving to people because after you go

through the movie, you realize what a shame it is that this is happening in this

great country.

And you remember what this country is supposed to be and how badly it's being

defamed by the people in power now.

Yeah, we're talking to Nick Searcy.

He is the lead in the new film Police State.

It's filmed by Nick, Dinesh D'Souza and me.

Nick, I'll let you go last question, but this one, you know, I had a friend of

mine, he's a very close friend and he's not particularly political.

I mean, he knows about politics, but he's not, he doesn't do what, you know, what

we do, where we follow this stuff all the time.

And he wasn't saw it only really because I was involved in it and it really hit

him. I mean, he said, I never really thought about that with January 6th, that

these people like Joe Bolanos, who cries in the film, this older gentleman who had

a stroke after they kicked in his mom's door and raided his house simply for having

a video of the Stop the Steal rally on his phone.

The guy had a stroke. His mother passed away.

I mean, it's the saddest story.

You will be in tears when you listen to him talk.

My friend said to me, you know, you're right, Dan.

He goes, it happened to this guy.

Yet these Antifa people who showed up at the White House with BLM and made such

chaos that Donald Trump had to be evacuated into the bunker.

And then they laughed about it.

And then they burned down American cities.

He's like, why don't we see any of the video of those raids?

He's like, I never really thought about that.

And the answer is because they didn't happen.

That's why this is really hitting people who are on the fringes of politics, who are

seeing for the first time that we are on the road to a police state.

Yeah, well, that's a wonderful thing.

I mean, that's a great story, Dan.

I hope it happens for more people.

I mean, a lot of times what happens with us is people on the other side won't listen.

They can't listen to it because it might disrupt their worldview.

And they are so invested in their own moral superiority that they can't possibly

consider the fact that the FBI and the Department of Justice might be mistreating

these people. And, you know, not only the man you mentioned in the film, but Jerry

Perna, her nephew, Matthew Perna, hung himself.

And I've talked to so many people who basically have had their lives destroyed,

you know, husbands and wives been separated for two years with her husband being in

jail without bond.

And this was the man who was the police deputy sheriff before he went in, Colton

McAbee. I mean, there's so many stories like this.

And I hope you're right.

I hope more people that don't pay attention to politics that often get to see this

movie and get to realize that this is this is happening to a lot of people in this

country. And there's no reason that can't happen to them someday.

Nick, we're talking to Nick Searcy.

Nick, when your other project comes out with Capital Punishment 2, we'd love to have

you back. You're always welcome on the show.

Of course, it's an open invite, but you did an amazing job in the movie.

I mean, I've worked around FBI, IRS, TIGTA, you know, Secret Service my whole life.

And you're as convincing as an FBI agent as I've ever seen.

So you do a great job. The movie's Police State, folks.

Starring Nick Searcy.

Don't miss it. It's out in theaters tonight.

PoliceStateFilm.net.

Nick, thanks for your time.

We appreciate it. Thank you, Dan.

It's an honor to be part of it.

It really is. Yes, sir.

Thank you, Nick Searcy.

I really urge you to see this movie.

It's important. DVDs are available for preorder now.

PoliceStateFilm.net.

I really hope you check it out.

You're going to like it. Up next, I had some serious thoughts about where we're headed as a

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This op ed piece in The Wall Street Journal made me think, are we on the right moral arc

of history? I have a lot of questions about whether we are or we aren't.

Please take a minute and listen.

You know, I think it's important we keep in mind that.

You know, sometimes we I think specifically us Americans.

Because we're so successful and prosperous, the most prosperous, successful,

militarily powerful country in the history of the world, I mean, it's just a fact

and easily backed up fact by statistics, data, GDP,

our nuclear payload, our ability to project force around the world.

I think there's this idea we have, especially here.

That there is this kind of arc to history and it all bends in a morally correct,

ethically proper direction, and.

You know, we're getting more civilized.

It's kind of the M.

Scott Peck road less traveled approach where if you ever read that book in the 80s,

it was a super popular book.

I've read it a couple of times. One of my favorites.

He's since passed.

But he was an expert on internal human conflict, a psychiatrist.

And he you know, in his book, he writes about how, you know, it's odd,

like is one of the reasons he talks about, you know, divinity is

how everything else in nature becomes more chaotic over time.

I mean, you leave your bushes without cutting the hedges.

They grow chaotic. You leave oil and water.

It gets chaotic. You don't shake it.

And, you know, it doesn't uniform.

Bubbles don't appear.

Except human beings who become generally more organized and prosperous over time.

But maybe that's an illusion.

You know, I I say that because during the break, you know, I like to read,

I don't like wasting any time,

and Jerry Baker has a piece up at The Wall Street Journal just popped 10 minutes ago.

And he says in here.

There's a geopolitical version of Whiggish history,

the idea that the world is evolving on some great hidden trajectory

toward liberty, democracy and enlightenment.

Quotes Martin Luther King, the arc of the moral universe

bends toward justice, as Martin Luther King put it.

But Baker says, but what if it doesn't?

Folks, I think that's a pretty valid question right now.

You know, on one hand, you have kind of the if you took a literature

class in high school or college, you have the Swiss family Robinson theory, right?

That men left to his devices over time.

The moral arc of history leads towards right.

We're all going to be like Swiss family Robinson.

We'll get lost on our own, but it'd be be a treehouse

and be a couple of dramas here and there.

But overall, in the end, we peace, love and happiness.

And we'll all get along well with each other.

And. But is that really how it is?

What if it's more Lord of the Flies, Ralph and Piggy and stuff?

And that seem more likely right now.

I mean, how is it that we live in the year 2023?

Last time I checked.

The world is connected at the snap of a finger.

You can call someone in Djibouti, Africa, on a phone right now.

No problem. And pay almost nothing for it, by the way.

A trip that would have taken you if you even made it 200 years ago,

probably more than a month if you even would have lived through it or even

known where Djibouti was.

The whole world's interconnected.

We're supposedly these civilized creatures now.

And the big problem is misinformation or whatever. And yet.

You know, 10th, 9th, 8th century savagery is just presented itself

just a couple of weeks ago,

and you got a bunch of people on college campuses and marching in the street,

liberal city celebrating it.

Eyeball gouging, raping, hostage taking stuff.

We thought the rules of war applied.

I mean, even in war, we're civilized now, right?

Are we? Are we civilized?

You know, I say that because.

I'm a Christian.

I wish I was a better one at times.

But my faith is real, and it's what gives me so much

moral consternation at times when I fall short.

I mean, if you didn't have faith, you didn't care.

You do what was right for you all the time.

You've hurt someone else, right?

Who cares? There's no penalty for it.

No, there will be a penalty for my sins.

I understand that. It drives me crazy every day.

But I think as a Christian, you want to believe like the world

has kind of evolved since the time of Christ and.

B.C. before Christ as well, and we've all become

more civilized, laser focused on things that really matter now.

Diversity, equity and inclusion, like the left tells us, right?

We're not worried about starvation anymore.

Biggest problem in the United States is obesity.

But are we really all just a group of savages?

As Havelock Ellis said, is.

Civilization just a thin crust on a volcano.

Are we all just are we all just, you know, three or four missed meals away.

From Ralph and Piggy ourselves.

And my dear listeners and friends.

I've had a major transformation over the last three weeks about that.

People I trusted.

Who let me down.

People I really believed in who want total savage.

I got to tell you, very few the other way around.

It happened to few people who I had almost no relationship with

and honestly didn't think much of because I was being just, you know,

I never thought they were really that great and they really stepped up.

And did things and really surprised me, but they were very few.

I'm starting to wonder things, too.

You know, there's that whole tree of liberty line.

To probably take that seriously.

This thing can and will fall apart if we don't water it.

And there's a whole lot of savages.

Out there.

I have never seen anything I've never been so disappointed.

In some of the people in our country, I always understood

the left didn't have an emergency break, believe me.

But I I'm telling you this with candor and exposing my own faults.

I honestly thought it was probably.

Less than 15 percent of the Democrat Party that would really go full savage.

After these last two and three weeks, I'm telling you right now,

it's probably closer to thirty five, forty, maybe more.

I've never seen anything.

I'm not telling you we don't have our problems

in the conservative or hijack conservative movement.

But I'm telling you absolutely as a matter of mathematical fact,

it is nothing like the problem on the left.

We are trying desperately.

To clean up this disgusting shred of just grotesque brutality,

some that emerged on what people claim is our side, it's not.

But it is a sliver of people compared to the demon

savage impulse that has just emerged openly on the left.

Folks, there is no moral ambiguity about what happened.

There is none.

There is no rational actor that can look at a versus B

and say to themselves, yes, they these people deserve to be raped,

have their breasts cut off, have their eyeballs gouged out.

There's no no rational actor would say that.

But, yeah, I'm concerned.

And it's really hard for me to say that because I maybe again, my

Christian faith, however many times I fail to live up to it.

Maybe Father Marty, if you're listening, maybe text me some words of inspiration

because I'm struggling a little bit right now.

Not with content, but emotionally with this.

I always wanted to believe that people had that divine inspiration in them

and we can just bring it out, but maybe that's not it at all.

Maybe they have very little more than a savage inspiration.

And it's up to us that believe in that divine power

to suppress that within the others.

And suppress that, I don't mean with violence, I mean with.

Information and disinformation warfare out there

and do our best to get through to them.

Folks, there are crazies out there everywhere.

Jim, queue up for me, cut one.

This is probably the longest I've gone on a show without a without a clip.

I mean, we've got people pouring across the southern border right now.

Bill Malujan reports on his Twitter account that last year,

269,000 migrant encounters, excuse me, last month.

The single highest month in September, single highest month ever recorded.

269,000 illegals we know about.

Multiple people on the terror watch list,

the Daily Callers reporting Hezbollah and Hamas know the southern border is open.

We finished the year with 2.47 million encounters,

the highest annual total ever.

And you got people in Congress like Ilhan Omar,

who are resolutely committed to stirring up some kind of holy war here in the

United States,

even though that holy war could be here already coming for people precisely like

them.

Now do you see why I wonder if that moral arc of history line is really

accurate? Here, listen to Ilhan Omar when asked a simple question,

listen to her absolutely erupt in rage and anger.

Chiefs have no grasp whatsoever how this whole thing just started or just

pretends it didn't happen. Take a listen.

A question from anyone else.