2023-09-21 02:14:41
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What's up, Trey? Good to see you.
Cool, what's up my brother?
Hey, I got a question for you and everyone who wears grills, alright. I got invisalign on and I'm trying to talk with Invisalign, and every time I've tried it, I bailed out of it. How the fuck do you talk? So clear with a grill on?
I think we just get used to it, especially from Houston, you know, it's just our culture.
Yeah, I want to meet Paul Wall and ask him. He seems like the guy who understands grills more than anybody.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, like post, Malone had one on. And then you hear him sing and talk, and he sounds perfect, but I can hear it in my voice.
His might be implanted, I don't know if his is a grill.
Implanted like the deers, they dig into your teeth and glue it in there. I think, so, yeah.
Yeah, I ain't hit that phase yet.
How's yours on your slides in and you can slide it out?
Yeah, yeah, I don't eat with them, I just keep them on throughout the day.
Do you ever leave it somewhere accidentally?
Never, that's something people do a lot. They used to always coming up younger. They used to put them in napkins, or put them in their pocket and lie on them and throw them away and everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I already lost one like that.
Yeah, a lot of people did.
But I didn't lose a grill, I just lost invisalign, that's all I'm saying, the wimpiest version of a grill. So what's happening, man?
How you doing?
Man blessed just in work mode in all aspects, man.
Work mode What's work mode for you? Like, what happens?
It depends on which world. Because, you know, of course, music wise, that's my first and foremost. But then the hometown hero side, and then just helping people and being a daddy is just work all around the clock, right, right?
What is this Hometown hero stuff?
That's what they label me, you know? Well, they label me that in Houston when I got to the point, they label me that everywhere, just for the help I do. Whether it be hurricane disaster. Whether it be just assisting with people, whether it be front line for the community, whether it be fighting for justice, whether it be just assisting and caring for the town. The way that I do, you know, my son named Houston.
That's how much Houston I am. Wow, yeah.
Yeah, it was fun seeing you backstage at the Post Malone concert.
Yeah, it's one of my little brothers, man. A lot of people don't realize the history with me and a lot of artists, like I remember when Post was first coming up. That's how far back we go, man. I've always been supportive and just always had his back.
So, you know, it's been that way with a lot of artists, so whenever they see me, it'd be super excitement.
Yeah, no, it's cool, it's cool to see that respect. It's like a thing you've got to stop in and check in with Trey when you come to Houston.
But, you know, it's not the forceful way. No, no, it's more of a love way.
Yeah, no, it's a nice way. it's a nice way. You were saying you never smoked and you never drank your whole life.
Yeah, never smoked, never drank, man.
How did you dodge that?
So crazy story is, man, coming from where I come from. Most people smoke and drink, you know, when they tend to go through stuff, just dealing with life, you know, that's what kind of put their mind at ease. And I was always one of the people I felt like I'm going to deal with it head up, whatever, however, it hit me at that moment, it can't get no worse than that. So I always just decided to not do it. Because at the end of the day, when I got done, smoking or drinking, if that's what I decided to do, the reality is still going to kick in.
So I'd rather just deal with the shit head up.
That's a good mindset, but smoking and drinking, it's fun.
I watch everybody around me do it all day, every day.
Well, there's nothing that sort of illuminates the problems with alcohol, like watching someone be drunk and you're sober.
You know, man, I've always been more of a protector my whole life. So I'm always just watching the atmosphere anyway. So it don't really bother me. I'll be watching out just to make sure everybody's straight at all times.
Right, so you're like the designated driver.
I don't want to be classified.
I don't mean that way, you know what I'm saying, just like the wise, sober person in the room, keeping everybody together.
Yeah, it is an interesting thing because we all know so many people that have ruined their lives because of that.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it just gets away from them, that's all they want to do. Smoke and drink, and your life just kind of gets away from you. You're just escaping it instead of being in it.
You know, man, something that I realize everybody's not built to be that strong and everybody's not able to deal with a lot of things. Sometimes that's their scapegoat and I'm one of the ones not to judge if it suits you and that's for you. You know, you got to do what you got to do.
That's a good way of looking at it, too, because that is true, we all have different levels of ability of handling. Shit, yeah, especially when you get into tricky things like alcohol or pills. pills is a tricky one.
Yeah, pills can be dangerous.
It doesn't seem like anybody can handle those. We had Kurt Angle on the other day from WWE and he developed a pain pill problem because he broke his neck like five times.
Damn, I didn't even know that.
He got fucked up, his neck is fucked up, it's crazy and we watched some clips of him doing it. But I mean, this guy won the gold medal in the Olympics with a broken neck, and he still got hooked on pills.
I could imagine. Only because once you get used to that pain and that's what's putting you at ease, you got to. You know, you go from a couple to let me just go and get a few more in so I can make sure I'm good throughout the day.
Yeah, it just becomes a part of your body, yeah, you can't get away from it.
But you got to be cautious, man, because now you got fentanyl and all the other shit. Now, every time I see something with that, I rarely see somebody make it through that. Yeah, that one, for sure going to kill you, so you got to be cautious.
Yeah, that's the real problem with getting stuff off the street, you know, if you're trying to get coke off the street, they're not making it at the Pfizer lab, you know, it's not like you're not getting the same batch every time. You don't know what the fuck you're getting. If you don't know the guy who's buying it from the people, like, you don't know what the source is.
Yeah, you even got. It's so crazy, you can even find weed laced with the shit. That's what I've heard. Yeah, everything can be fucked up in this.
Why would they lace weed with it?
Never know, never know. But as many people as the shit affecting are hitting and passing from it, it's definitely something that they're doing.
You know, because weed is illegal in a lot of states, 90 of the weed that's grown that's sold in these states. Where it's illegal is grown on public land by the cartels. Because in the places where weed is legal, like California, it's only a misdemeanor. If you're growing weed like without a permit, it's not a big deal. So they just set up shop in the National Forest, in a place where they're not supposed to be, and they grow weed. Because if they get caught, it's not. You know, it's not that big of a deal, but you know, they want to protect their product too.
So these guys who used to be like game wardens, now they have like tactical teams with dogs and shit and, you know, MP4s and machine guns. And they're going through the woods fighting a cartel. It's wild.
You know, you see it in the movies, but you know, that's what, having a real life, for real, for real.
For real, for real. And he was explaining to me how it's really dangerous. Because they use all these like super toxic pesticides and shit that no one else is allowed to use. Like, you can't really use that if you're growing, especially if you're growing something organically, which is ideal. So they're using all kinds of shit that's like super toxic.
Yeah, and then that means it's going to weigh down and affect the people, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, and isn't it crazy that all that is just because it's illegal?
Man, I'm not sure when, but I'm assuming they're going to have to make it legal in Texas at some point, man.
At some point, it seems silly, especially because Texas is supposed to be all about freedom. You know, I had a conversation with this guy, Alex Berenson, yesterday, he's a reporter, he used to work for The New York Times, and he's, you know, he pointed out. It's like, everybody wants freedom.
But if you get that freedom and everything's legal, you're going to have a bunch of drug overdoses you wouldn't have. You're going to have a bunch of people that are addicted, you wouldn't have gotten addicted. If it was illegal, they wouldn't have bought it, and because it's legal, you're going to have to deal with that.
And it's true, but it's an uncomfortable truth.
The flip side of that is, I have yet to see anybody really pass away from weed.
Yeah, even from cancer, right?
Right?
You know, if you're smoking it every day, they're not getting lung cancer, that's crazy.
Right, so that's the only part they get confused why they haven't made it legal as fast.
I mean, if there's things like, you know the opiates, if they're legal, you can get those, but you can't get weed. That seems silly, that just seems silly, it doesn't make any sense.
I think, honestly, man, the reason why it's probably not is just because they haven't figured out a way to monetize off of it.
Well, the problem is you can't patent it right? So like, if you're selling, you know, whatever it is, some thyroid medication or something, you can patent that. And then it's your medication that you invented, and then you own the patent on it, so you get all the profits from it. But when it's a plant, that whole model gets like thrown into the bushes, like, you can't do shit.
Everybody can grow it, all you need is dirt and water and you can get the drug.
And then a name, yeah, because you can rename it as much as you want.
Yeah, and then you can name as many strains as you want. It's the Wild West out there, but you couldn't if it was patented, you know, man, maybe that's what they would want to do is make like a genetic strain, like a monsanto-type weed, where they could completely control it.
Yeah, definitely, because they know that's going to be their moneymaker.
Yeah, it seems like it's just such a conundrum, because you know, I admire people like you. No alcohol, no weed, no nothing, just discipline. I admire that.
It just builds us to be a little stronger, you know? Because, man, I done been through so much shit in life and watched a lot of people go through stuff that may take their life. Because it may be real crucial. But when you get to getting to the point of where I am, you deal with everything head up. It's like, it ain't really much, it ain't like it's a breeze or a cakewalk every time. But for the most part, we'd be like, man, it'd be ideal with it.
And, you know, that's what keep me going.
Well, I guess also, if you get used to just dealing with shit, then you get strong at dealing with shit. Whereas if you're just drowning it out all the time, then that becomes a habit.
But it's so crazy. It became even a bigger habit for me, right? I don't know how long ago it was when I got shot, but when I got shot, they ended up.
The actually crazy thing is, they never they didn't do surgery or anything, right? I got shot. It was so many people outside the hospital that they were like, Man, we need to get him out of here because they never seen nothing like that. So they don't know if the people outside was against me or was for me.
They just never seen it so long story short, I left, got home.
Cleaned around, I just got the bleeding to stop. But days later, they tried to prescribe me medicine. I think I took the medicine probably for the first five, six days. And then once I decided that I could make it through half a day without it. I'm just like, Man, fuck it.
I'm just, it can't get no worse than this. you know what I'm saying? it only get better, so dealing with that, that's just it.
Developed a habit or anything I do, I just go at it about that way. I don't know if you ever seen on YouTube. I took the bullet out myself.
Jesus.
Yeah, but it's just.
Where did you get shot?
I got shot directly in my back and it shattered my shoulder blade and spent to my shoulder. So I sat there for like four or five years. And it's so crazy, right? When you hear people tell you the story.
There it is.
Yeah, so that's me taking it out.
So it was pushing out how long after you got shot?
Yeah, about five could have been like five years.
Five years so the bullet was still, it was working its way out of your skin for five years. Wow, dude, that's crazy.
And went on to continue my day.
Did you get it stitched up? At least?
No, really, yeah. But it healed like it was supposed to man. The fact that I'm not doing surgery on me when I got shot and it healed. That was a cakewalk at that point.
Why didn't they want to do surgery?
One I don't know if for them not have, I guess, for how many people was there so fast? And then them not being able to go in and know if it's somewhere that was damaging? Or however you want to put the words.
They were like, Man, we got to get him up out of here and that was just the reality of it. But the only bad thing is because they didn't move it and it was there. It got tangled up in a lot of my nerves and muscle, so if you ever pay attention to me, I can't lift my arm directly straight up or do a lot of different things. Because it was sitting in there for so many years.
That's got to piss you off because they could have just pulled that out, right?
Yeah, definitely, because it was so close to the edge. Because from the time I got shot to the time it came out, you could always feel it, so it was that close.
That's the thing about doctors, you can get a really good doctor, or you can get a doctor that's like, Mm, Okay, leave it in there.
And it's crazy, right man, because I help a lot of kids and you watch some of these doctors. They take a personal liking and loving to these kids and just trying to figure out ways to help them. Even some of the elders. You got some people like, Shit, it ain't going to work, they ain't going to make it. You know what I'm saying? That's the fucked up part about it.
Yeah, well, I think some people get real calloused. Unfortunately, I see a lot of people die and then they lose their feeling for it, other people never do. That's the best thing about great doctors is you just really appreciate them. If someone really cares, you really appreciate them.
That extra, let's try it one more time, sometimes can change everything, as opposed to there's nothing else we can do.
Yeah, especially when someone's got a bullet in their shoulder. Just get it out of there, man, especially if it's right there. Like, how far below the surface was it, like, when you first went in?
No, so when I first went in, it was literally it was just bulging.
So it was like, at the skin.
Yeah, so if you do this, you could always feel it. So when you look at the video that was on YouTube by that point, it broke the skin on its own. Because, you know, you'll hear stories like bullets going, they'll push their way out, or you'll hear the stories during rain or cold weather. That'll make you feel some way like, that's really for real.
It makes sense. I mean, there's a piece of metal in you. That's what everybody says that has, like, broken arms. When they get plates, they get plates in their arms or in their legs.
A lot of fighters say that when it's cold out, it just sucks.
I didn't even think of it, I ain't never had a broken bone, so yeah.
When they break, you know a lot of times, like when you break your forearm, they have to do that.
They have to screw it in.
It's pretty gnarly, man, you ever seen anybody get it done? No, a lot of people. They do it from a spinning back fist, they throw a spinning back fist, and they hit the forearm.
Is that it?
Yeah, they hit their forearm on someone's forehead and it snaps that way, or they're blocking kicks. But when they do it, man, the whole arm has to be cut open. They've got to put a bar in there and screws and tighten it all together.
They take it back out, or does it just stay there forever?
It depends you can get it taken back out. Some guys have to get it taken back out because the screws start backing out and they start poking through the skin. It makes it really painful, especially if you're trying to kick or block kicks or punch or anything like that.
That's crazy, as much as a diehard UFC fan. My one thing about that is watching them kick. I don't understand how they don't break their leg every time they kick, even though I know they do different procedures to make it hard.
Yeah, the different procedures don't really prevent it, it makes it definitely tougher. There's some Thai guys who have crazy shins because they've been kicking bamboo trees and kicking pads and heavy bags and bags with sand in them. They've been doing that their whole lives. So they have really dense shin bones and they just swat people with those like they're baseball bats.
This dude, I think his name is Malapai, and he was fighting in a lion fight. And this dude would just go shin to shin with everybody. Just kick them in the shins, just kick them in the shins. They just couldn't tolerate it. He would hit so fucking hard, his bones were just so dense because he'd been doing it forever.
But even those guys, they have to be careful. I'm sure Anderson Silva has very dense bones.
I was just going to say, that was one of them, that was crazy, yeah.
That was crazy to watch an all-time great snap. His leg like that, like, no.
You know, that was still one of the favorites, though.
He's one of the greatest of all time, one of the greatest of all time. He was a master at finding people's chins, He's just a master master at finding. When's the opening blam?
He was so good.
You know somebody that people slept on, that you had to be an original UFC fan. Vitor Belfort Hands was probably some of the coldest when he was young coming in.
Yeah, nobody had hands like him at 19.
He fought Trey Telegman, that was his first fight in the UFC, I remember.
He from Texas, right? he's from Dallas.
Yeah, I believe so. He was one of the Lion's Den guys, fucking jacked big, huge dude. And they thought Vitor, because he was a black belt in jiu-jitsu from the Carlson Gracie family, they thought that he was just going to do jiu-jitsu. And this dude just comes out and puts on a boxing clinic.
And you're like, Whoa?
He couldn't get away from it. Him, and who else did he get? Vanderlei Silva?
Scott Perroza was the next fight he had, and then, yeah, he fought. Vanderlei. Silva ran across the ring, just blitzed him with punches, that was crazy.
See if you can find that. Vitor Belfort versus Vanderlei Silva. I mean, this is crazy.
You know what's so crazy? At the time, it didn't do Vanderlei no justice because nobody knew he ended up turning out to be good as can be.
Oh yeah.
Belfort flushed right through that shit.
Well, he just caught him and kept him caught, he just banged once and then Vitor will just flurry, he flurried. But yeah, you're right, because Vanderlei did become an all-time great after that, too.
Yeah, but see, then people didn't know there you go.
I mean, it's just a blitz. I mean, Vitor had some crazy hands, just crazy hands, and he was terrified of Vanderlei. Everybody was terrified of Vanderlei.
I didn't know that.
That's why they called him the axe murderer, that was his nickname.
I didn't know that at all.
Vanderlei would just stare at you like this, do this shit with his hands before the fights, and everybody's like, Oh, this fucking guy.
I think Vitor man, once he gained all the weight, that's when he ended up taking the first L.
Well, he got way too big. But the problem with Vitor at that time, I think, was that you were starting to see this emergence of these big giant wrestlers. So, like, Mark Coleman was the best example, and Mark Coleman was like, you know, 260 solid as a rock giant, jacked, super athletic wrestler. And he took everybody down.
And everybody's like, Oh my god, this guy's so big, I got to get big, too. They felt like that was the only way to beat Mark Coleman, so there was like a bunch of guys who started getting really big.
But, you know, that comes with a gas tank problem, you can't get that big with that frame. He just couldn't survive, and then when he fought Randy Couture, Randy just outworked him, yeah.
Randy was good.
Randy was very good, Randy was very good.
A lot of people don't, man, so I used to, that's how far back I go. I used to have the VHSes to when they were doing the tournaments. The whole day where you fight more than once. Yeah, so I've been. I used to watch UFC like, Crazy, man.
The tournaments were wild, they fought more than once a night.
I don't think they can do that no more.
Well, they did it in glory kickboxing a few years back, they did it in L..A. I think it was called Last Man Standing, and I think those guys, I want to say, they fought three times in a night against world-class kickboxers. You know, just bananas.
Who else was? Tank was good back then, Tank Abbott.
Oh, Tank Abbott, yeah, oh, he was an animal. yeah, he was the first guy to figure out to wrap your hands.
Tank Abbott was the first guy to figure out. Like, if you have MMA gloves on, you actually can punch harder, because like, it's harder to punch someone bare knuckle. You break your hands easier, but if you can really wrap your hands up and put gloves on, it's probably better. And so Tank would, he was one of the first guys to put those gloves.
He might have been the first guy, but he's definitely one of the first guys who was like a big power puncher who put gloves on.
Yeah, when he did, the dude, with the dudes hanging with his neck down, you remember that one? Oh God.
Yeah, yeah. SCOTT NELMARK I believe. Yeah, no, he was an animal, he was the worst case scenario.
A guy who liked to drink, talked a lot of shit and couldn't fight, like, God, damn it. And he fought anybody, he didn't give a fuck, he just fought anybody, whoever.
He fought, anybody they put in front of him never said no.
Yeah, Tank was one of them.
He was one of those guys, too. When he would show up, people would go crazy. They loved it, they loved that tank was there.
You know somebody else like these days, even though he's my brother, but still the beast, the same way people love him, no matter what.
Oh yeah, we were just talking about him. When we had Kurt Angle on. I was saying, if anybody could transition from their MMA career into pro wrestling, it's the beast.
Yeah, yeah.
He could do it, Derrick Lewis could 100 be a superstar pro wrestler 100. If he decided to retire from fighting, he would be huge. He's hilarious.
Yeah, definitely.
And he's gigantic, he's got all the qualities that you need to be a good pro wrestler.
Yeah, and the people love him, you know, what's so crazy? Me and him. We saved a lot of lives together during Hurricane Harvey.
We went and took care of Beaumont Port. ARTHUR Matter of fact, it's so crazy. I got my lifted truck out there. That's the reason I bought it, I bought it because of him, because at first I was doing rescues and boats and doing different stuff.
But then Derrick came through in the lifted truck and we were going past the boats in the water, so at that point I ended up buying the truck. But we saved a lot of people together. That's one of my close, close brothers. That's why whenever y'all see me at the fights and he's fighting, everybody be looking because I be on my feet.
Yeah, like crazy.
No, Derrick's the man, he's hilarious. I'll never forget. When he took his shorts off. I'm like, Derrick, why are your shorts off? My balls is off.
But it paid off because now you got a Manscape commercial.
Yeah, he should have a Manscape commercial, he should have a whole campaign. He's hilarious. Yeah, it's a lot of sport, huh? I mean, that's how I got to meet you, from you coming to the fights.
But I appreciate that you enjoy it, too.
Yeah, shout out John Anik too. He for sure was like, Man, you and Joe, I got to get y'all two together, man.
Did he say that?
Yeah.
Yeah, John Anik is the man. I love that too. That guy's the best play-by-play commentator in the history of sport, he's the best, he's the goat.
He's so smooth, man. When he called that Leon Edwards head kick right before Leon landed it on Kamaru Usman. Because they were saying we were talking about it. Like, you know, he's down in this fight, and you know, it's like, you know, his corner's yelling at him, Don't give up Rock, go get him. And John Anik goes. But that is not the cloth from which he's cut. And then, boom, he lands a head shot.
I mean, it's crazy. It's like a scene, like, if that was in a movie, you'd go like, that's too dead on. No one would make a call like that.
But y'all see it so much as probably, man, y'all see a lot of stuff come well, no, because I watch y'all expressions, some shit y'all don't be seeing.
I didn't see that coming, man, I did not see that coming. that was crazy. See if you can find that, play that.
Because it's like a historical moment. When Anik says it, it's like he captured it. It's really like a scene in a movie. It doesn't. It's like, see, show it to it, show it.
That's got music behind it. Okay, oh, you have two things going on at the same time.
I have a video going on.
Okay, okay, so listen to this because this is crazy, that he nails it, but that is not the cloth from which he is cut.
I mean, that is a dejected.
Ah, they got you, they got you. Everybody's got to edit everything, these motherfuckers, they can't just leave shit alone.
I linked it from an article about the call, too.
Well, that's it. Yeah, John Anik's the man, he's just so smooth. That's a hard job, man. The job of the color commentator is way easier.
The job of like, my job and Daniel's job, like when D.C. and I do it, we're just having fun. Like we don't have to do any traffic, like he's like directing traffic, and this brought to you by Modelo, he's got to do all that stuff.
I never noticed the difference.
Yeah, if you notice the difference, if you pay attention, it's like he does much more work. He's way better. Like, he's like, coordinated, yeah, he's got notes and he's got index cards and shit.
You know, he has to say certain things at certain times, you know about Prime Energy drink, and you know, this movie's coming up and this and that. Like there's little things, you have to jump in Toyota tires, like, you have to jump in with all that stuff.
I thought that was all, yeah, I didn't know it was just him.
D.C. and I are like eating snacks and having a good time watching the fights. Yeah, see, he's got cards and shit.
Look at him all jazzed up. Yeah, he gets excited, he's the man. Love that dude. The three of us together are so much fun.
Definitely, man, I watch y'all all the time, man, you know, my wishes that I really want to see. I want to see Derek get a championship and I want to see Dustin Poirier get one of them too. Two of my closest man.
They'd be right there at the edge, man. Even the time that the thing with Derek, most people ain't going to be able to withstand the flurry once he gets you.
Once he hits you.
Yeah, but a couple of people got lucky and got through it and just threw me off. But that's what I want. I want at least them to at least get their chance to be champ one time.
Well, listen, Derek can knock anybody out, I mean, that crazy flying knee that he opened up his last fight.
It was worth it, he practiced it.
Yeah, it was crazy, he just nailed him right out the gate. If Derek does that to anybody, they're on skates. He hits so hard, he's got the most knockouts of anyone in the history of the division.
Yeah, definitely do. And the crazy thing with him, it can be at the end of the fight, yeah, all it takes is one for him.
He's always got it. Yeah, yeah, he carries that power late.
I thought Dustin even was going to win this last fight, that kick came, you know, but Dustin, I feel like, boxing-wise, Dustin. Still, he mastered that from his weave game to everything.
He's very good, he's very, very good, but so is Gaethje.
Yeah, not to take nothing from him.
And Dustin got him in the first fight, the first fight, Dustin got him, Dustin rather got him, and it was a hell of a war, and Gaethje got him in this one.
But the way he got him, like, Oh my god, that head kick. And the crazy thing was it's in the same arena in Salt Lake City. A year later. From the Kamaru Usman knockout, it's basically the same knockout, it's the same knockout. The way Leon Edwards knocks out Kamaru with the left leg is exactly what Justin Gaethje did with the right leg.
Same thing it shows, the punch kicks behind the punch, same thing. Amazing.
Yeah, crazy, I didn't know that.
Yeah, somebody played a video, or somebody made a video of the two of them back-to-back. See if you can find that. It's like you could see one plays out and then the other one plays out.
And it's almost identical, just mirrored, just the different legs, left leg versus right leg. But Justin's a monster man, Justin Gaethje, he's on fire right now. he's on fire, you know? I mean, he's only lost to the best in the division, you know? Like Charles Oliveira and Khabib, and a couple other guys like Dustin.
But right now, he's on fire, he's on fire, especially that last fight and then the fight before that with Pazeev. That guy's a beast, too, and that was an amazing fight. So Justin is like, he's at the top of the heap.
I would love to see him fight for the title like whoever wins this weekend with the Or. When is that October 21st, right?
No, when is the Oliveira one hold on?
Yeah.
That sounds correct.
October 21st, Yeah.
I just found the video.
When that card takes place like that is. That's going to be a very interesting thing to see who gets the next shot at it because Justin Gaethje versus the winner, that would be really interesting. Look at this. So here's Leon's kick on the left and then Justin's on the right, same exact thing.
Wild, right?
That's crazy.
Wild, and that's two head kicks to win the title, you know, a year apart from each other. In Salt Lake City, like Salt Lake, City's got some magic in the air.
Definitely if that happened back in the arena.
Yes, yeah, it's a crazy sport, man. When did you first start getting into it?
Oh man.
Since way back then, with the Gracies and the Ken Shanrocks. I used to get them from Blockbuster, that's when I, Oh yeah, I still probably got them. VHS tapes, man.
Yeah, yeah, so it was in the beginning phases, man.
That's how I got introduced to it, too. I got UFC 2, picked it up like a Hollywood video. And I was like, What is this? And I remember immediately thinking, Oh my God, I have to learn jiu-jitsu like these guys are all getting killed.
When you watch Royce, Gracie strangle everybody and break everybody's arms.
And people. He was. I don't know how tall he is in person, but he was probably one of the smallest people. It seemed like looking at it from a fan standpoint, he's skinny too, right?
Oh yeah. Royce was 176 pounds when he was tapping out guys like Dan Severn, who was like a beast 250-pound wrestler. He was so good man and no one knew what to do. They had never seen Gracie jiu-jitsu before, and Royce just. He was the perfect advertisement for jiu-jitsu, too, because it wasn't like he was built.
Like, he wasn't like jacked, like Tyron Woodley or something, or someone like super jacked. Brock Lesnar No, he's like a thin, normal-looking guy who fucked everybody up.
I'm talking about literally would choke the shit out of people.
Choke the shit out of people. And he was doing it to everybody, man. It was interesting, it was really interesting because so many people just didn't know what to do with him. And he was fighting with that GI on, which I think if they let him keep fighting with the GI on. I think in a lot of his future fights he would have had better results too, because he had some fights with no GI.
And it's like, man, Royce with the G.I. was just a master, a master at choking you with it, a master at getting you to grab it. So he could initiate grappling exchanges.
Yeah, that was his thing.
Boy, that one family, and particularly Royce, but that one family, they changed martial arts forever.
Do any of them still fight? None of them fight in the –.
No, no, none of them, I mean, they're all quite a bit older, you know? But talk about a family that had all-time great jiu-jitsu people coming out of it. I mean, that's insane. That one family really influenced the way martial arts is expressed all over the world.
And people are learning Brazilian jiu-jitsu in Russia, they're learning it in France, and they're learning it in Ireland. One family. It's crazy, man, it's really crazy.
If anybody learned it from him, it would be him. People need to go do their research and go back and watch some of his fights. Looking at him, you would have no idea.
Yeah, Royce was something really special because we'd never seen that before. It was the first time we'd ever seen something where the martial art was more important in size and strength. If you were actually a smaller person who's proficient in this martial art. Because that's what most martial arts promise you, that you would be able to beat a bigger person. But there's some physical issues, like if you're a 135-pound guy and you're fighting Derek Lewis, you've got a real problem, you've got a real problem.
You've got a real problem, a size problem that I don't think you're going to be able to surmount.
He's going to slap your ass across that ring.
If he hits you once, you're in a coma, there's no way. It's just he's too big, you're not going to be able to just take him down, it's going to be wild.
He's going to throw you off him, he's going to kick you, he's going to punch you, you're fucked, he's too big.
But with jiu-jitsu, it became if he didn't know jiu-jitsu, and Royce got a hold of him. He could avoid the damage, drag him to the ground and submit him. We had never seen that before. It was always if you saw two guys slugging it out. Generally, they were either the same size if it was like a boxing or a kickboxing fight, or if they weren't. The big guy always killed the small guy, always in the UFC. It was the first time we saw this one guy who was like a normal-sized guy, not crazy muscles, nothing.
Just dominate everybody. We're like, what is he doing?
Yeah, he definitely was one of the faces.
Yeah, what is he doing?
Yeah.
Then when you first went to see one live, when was that?
Crazy, I think Derek had me come out to. It was in Houston, that was my first time. It was him, I was with him and John Jones. And we were giving out. We actually gave out bump boxes, too.
From there, me and Dana got real close and just the whole team, and it's been that way since I ended up doing a deal with Dana. Not long after. As far as the licensing and stuff with Bump Box. So that's why you see UFC across a lot of our stuff and a lot of our stuff within what they got going on.
Oh, that's awesome, so you guys got a collaboration together.
Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. That's why you see me every time at the fights, you'll see me backstage, but when we do the weigh-ins and stuff, yeah, yeah.
We make sure we take care of all the fighters and other stuff.
You know what's great that you gave me that tumbler that has a speaker at the bottom of it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did a partnership with Gronkowski and it's actually growing. People really still ain't even realizing there's a speaker on the cup, They're just thinking it's a cool shaker cup, but no, it's something dope, man.
It's a great idea.
Well, actually, you know, you got the first and post's probably going to be mad because I got to get his, but you got the first. Cornhole with the speakers, Oh, really, we own the rights to that. Any cornhole that has any type of music on it, that's us. So we have the first official cornhole with speakers on it. And you can pair them together.
So as you're playing the game, you can just vibe out, all right, yeah.
That's a great beach game. I can't believe it's on ESPN now.
Yeah, tailgate and beach.
Yeah, it's fun.
Oh, it's a sport now on TV.
I think it's on TV, Oh yeah.
There's people that are surprisingly really good at it, let me see, they can do a lot of shit.
Let me see some fucking pro cornhole.
What do you win? A bunch of money?
Yeah, they do like tournaments in Vegas. I think at the end of the day, let's see if I can find one with a lot of views. I've seen. They're calling out what they need to do and they just do it.
That's crazy.
Yo bump box, man. It's been a blessing for us, you know? Shout out to all my partners there. We took the company from just a few radios, just, you know, getting them out there to NAS worldwide.
So here's the World Championships American Cornhole League. Okay, this is the top shots. Let's see these guys stand around a lot.
One in the hole.
He did it without hitting the other bags, which is kind of like, that's pretty fucking tough to do.
Is that better?
Yeah, because those bags are probably tied to the other team, right? So if you knock them in, they get the points, if you don't do that, then you get the points.
Oh, that's crazy.
This guy's doing it with a mask on. Ah, he missed.
So you see how?
No, he actually goes in and knocked the other one off.
Did he?
You see how he's standing up with the.
Oh, everybody has a mask. This must have been during Covid. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, they probably forced him to wear that mask.
You heard me, Joe, you see how he's standing up with the legs, so wherever the legs are, those are actual speakers.
Nice, what a great idea. Yeah, they're making these people wear masks. how stupid is this? But we're going to look back on the masks and go, What the fuck were we doing?
What the fuck were we doing?
But Covid fucked up a lot of shit for everything, man. At this point, I realized, just from helping so many people in the community in general, I realized how damaging it was business-wise, I watched how damaging it was. Because now if you pay attention to some of the new movies that come out, it just goes straight to streaming at this point.
Yes.
Yeah, so I don't know if that helped money for the movies, but it seemed like it definitely hurt.
I don't think it does, and I don't think it's good for the actors either. I think that's part of the strike. I'm kind of speaking out of turn here because I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. Is that? Part of it is that they want more money from streaming?
Yeah, but a lot of the actors are not top-billed type people. They get paid one fee and then they're never going to get residuals.
Right?
So they're trying to get some of those residuals when stuff's getting resold, that's definitely part of it. There's other things involved, too.
Bro, you know what they're doing? That's wild. Some of these studios are trying to make people sign contracts. If you do background work where they could just use your likeness from then on, so they could repurpose you in other background scenes as CGI.
Damn, they're kind of like them licensing your name, yeah, permanently, I guess, you would say.
For like, nothing.
That's shit crazy.
That's the culture of people that aren't stars over there in movies, though extras, they don't think about it that way. It's really interesting because they're going to be able to make movies with it, and they're going to be able to make a movie with you. Where you speak Chinese and you run an army somewhere, I mean, they can do whatever they want.
With CGI and with this new AI Voice stuff, they could literally do whatever they want, and they could turn. Any person who's already been in a bunch of films where they have your face, they could put you in all kinds of scenes. We're real close to them not needing actors anymore, which is kind of weird.
Yeah, and even just not just the actors, just even with us, with music. At first, when they say something about it, and they may say something about, you can put Michael Jackson and somebody else on the same record. Of course, you'd be curious to be like, Shoot dope, I wonder what that sounds like. But then when you start thinking about it, damn, they won't really need us at some point. Because now they're making your voice sound the same, they're making you look the same. It's just weird. But one thing I know, man, the bigger companies, they'll find a way to block this shit somehow, some way, because that's taking all the money.
It's definitely going to change things, right? Like that Drake song that got put out, that was a fake Drake song. it was an AI-created Drake song. People loved it.
Yeah.
They can do wild shit now, man. It's like we're not that far away from them being able to replicate full movies. All fake people.
I'll be watching from a distance, like I'm watching a lot of the robot stuff start to really come to life now.
Does that freak you out?
Yeah, so for two reasons, one because definitely at this point, shit.
Anything, if anything, goes wrong at this point. We're down to fuck because they build them down there, invincible. But two. The other part that freaks me out is they showed us shit in movies years back, and everything that they show is coming to be that exact. Think about it, even with Covid, right? If you go look at some of the other movies where you have different pandemics, same shit. So then when you go to seeing shit with the robot, what year Will Smith came out with that movie? iRobot? Yeah.
That was great. Was that 10 years ago, maybe?
Maybe more?
Yeah, but to see that shit now, it's like they be knowing it's crazy.
What was it?
20 years ago.
That's even crazy. Wow, 20 years ago and now look at what we're dealing with right now.
Yeah, we're about 10 years away from that being real. They've already developed these very lifelike robots.
They're doing the first human neuralink person soon, and this is what Elon just tweeted an hour ago with that.
When a neuralink is combined with Optimus robot limbs, the Luke Skywalker solution can be real, can become real. Holy fuck, click on that man, let me see that.
Oh, this is actually.
Yeah, he's just showing what it would look like.
I thought it really was that.
Not yet.
How come? Yeah, but probably one day they'll just have a fake hand.
Yeah, they're getting the first person, they're looking for, someone with quadriplegia right now.
Whoa?
Whether or not they found that person over the last few days, I don't know.
Whoa, we are watching something, we're watching the seeds of something that's going to overcome the human race.
Yeah, and that shit is not good just when you think about it, but of course, you know, you think that shit will be far gone past our time. But then you still got to think of our kids and those generations, because it's definitely going to be dangerous.
It's definitely going to be dangerous. But yeah, they're going to have our kids, and their kids are going to have a totally different world that they live in.
Yeah, especially with the you watch movies, with the flying car shit. Now they're really technically getting it together.
That is the last thing you want. People have a hard enough time just slamming into each other on the street, on the ground.
I noticed yesterday that there's a flying taxi warehouse opening up in Ohio next month or next year.
Is it true? They got one in New York?
Are you going to fly in one of those things?
Do they have one in New York already? That's not true. Did they start doing that in New York?
I don't know why they would do it in New York, there is one right there.
Yeah, New York definitely has like the blade system, which is like Uber Helicopter kind of thing like this.
Uber helicopter, they have that.
That's part of what the problem was in Uncut Gems that wasn't around then. Remember, he uses that helicopter to fly from. You can do it from Manhattan to the airport and just get all the traffic, get there in 20 minutes.
Helicopters freak me out.
I don't know about these.
I went up with Bill Burr. it was a lot of fun. Bill Burr is a helicopter pilot.
He's one of my favorite comedians, I don't know if it's his voice or what, but yeah.
He's hilarious, he's so good, such a good guy, but he's a pilot and so he took me in the helicopter. Around downtown, you can kind of go wherever you want.
It is like a flying car. That's what they thought the flying car was going to be. They thought helicopters. When they first invented them, they thought it was going to be a flying car.
I didn't know that.
See if you can find the original helicopter, because I think that's literally what they were selling it as.
What do you mean?
The original helicopter that was just right, not literally invention. Oh, yeah, right.
He wrote it down, right, he wrote it.
Original helicopter.
Flying car See if it says that, because I think that's kind of the concept. They thought, oh, we'll get helicopters and then people will just fly around in helicopters, and then I think they bailed on that.
Because I think they realized, like, you want knuckleheads banging blades 10,000 feet above cities?
If you watch people bump in traffic now.
Exactly, someone's on their phone, flying around in a helicopter.
Tweeting or texting, man?
Yeah, not good. definitely not good. Yeah, it's um.
I don't know, man, I'm all for freedom, but I don't want people falling out of the sky onto people's houses either. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know helicopters, I don't really feel comfortable in helicopters, I'm more cool with a plane.
Do you ever do a tour bus thing? Do you do tour buses, ever?
Yeah, yeah, sometimes, man. But you know, we so comfortable now, we just jump in a load of suburbs and get to where we got to go. Because, you know, even when I think my last tour, me and T.I did, we were on tour buses. But even then, you know, it's more so just when we're trying to get to the next city.
Because, ideally, we're still going to go to a hotel and do what we got to do.
Oh, so you don't sleep on the tour bus?
You do sometimes, yeah, if you're going from a city and you might have a six to eight hour stretch. You got somewhere to lay down, as opposed to having to sit up sleeping in the suburban or something.
I don't feel comfortable sleeping in those things because I feel like, if this thing crashes, I don't want to be asleep in this bunk bed.
I ain't never thought of it that way. No, yeah, no, that would be bad, that's bad.
Very bad.
Real bad, isn't that how Gloria Estefan broke her back? How do I know that? I think so, I think that's true.
I think I think her tour bus crashed. What happened? yeah.
Yeah, 1990.
That's what happened.
Snow-covered highways, Grand Pennsylvania Semi-truck. Four hours of surgery, spinal surgery, yeah.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You just opened my eyes to that. I literally just talked to somebody two days ago at Drake Concert who has tour buses. He was like, Man, next time you want to, he told me, next time you want to go out, whether it's touring, because my album is getting ready to come out. So either that, or even if you want to take the tour bus when you're going to go help during disasters, you can take the bus out. Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, yeah, but you're going to make me think it depends on how far that drive is.
Yeah, don't fall, just don't lay down. Seems like you should be in a seatbelt, because that's the thing about tour buses, too, people are driving around.
It's almost like they're in a green room, like, Bro, we're moving, put the fucking seatbelt on, let's not die. You don't do that in a regular car, right?
You definitely don't.
For a good reason, because you don't want to go through the windshield, so put your fucking seatbelt on, bro. But you know, everybody wants to have a good time. That's the weird thing about, like limos and tour buses.
One of the things I heard about Limos is when they crash, the real scary thing is people's heads slam into each other.
I can see that because, Limos, you rarely ever see seatbelts.
Yeah, well, you know, if they are, people aren't wearing them, and then, you know, when they slam on the brakes. You go flying and you go flying into each other, and you could fucking headbutt each other at 35 miles an hour, you know, it's like, not good.
You think of the abrupt stop of, like, the violent action of some accidents. If you're not in a seatbelt and you're in a limo together, man, you could get fucked up.
Yeah, because you got to realize on the time of impact, you know. Usually when you see something coming, you can brace yourself, but when it's unexpected, it's a wreck.
Yeah, you're not even bracing, you just feel the driver hit the brakes, you don't know what to do, and then bam, yeah.
Not good wear your seatbelt, kids.
Yeah, definitely do that, man.
I was trying to find what you were asking me to look for and I can't find it, and I stumbled across this. There's something called a model a Aleph, Aleph, Aleph.
Have you seen this? It's a flying car and they're saying it's available. Now, it's $300,000. I haven't found a video of it flying, but this is at the Detroit Car Show.
It's got wheels here on, like normal size for the wheels. But the rest of the car is made up of eight fans, and it says it can fly like 110 miles.
What?
I'll show you a different video.
Great.
What?
Really.
That's right, so it looks like a car and flies like that, just with the fans.
There's wheels there, and there's the whole rest of the body and this, like the cockpit where you are, turns.
Yo, how do you steer that thing?
I wonder if they make you go to flight school for these type cars.
You definitely should.
But this doesn't show it flying.
Does that show it's flying?
Well, this is like their video of it, so it's not accurate, but that's what they're saying it's going to look like.
Oh, so you're going to go like sideways.
Yeah.
With all those flying above them.
What, I wouldn't fuck with it at all.
What so, I thought it was saying that the cockpit turns, so the fans are behind you. Is that what happened?
It says street legal e-veto, which means verbal takeoff.
Oh, look at that, there's an accident, he flies.
He just skips over it and goes back. Yo. That would definitely have a lot of people running into each other, but.
They'd land on each other. Fuck you, bitch, this is my lane.
But the way that looked this has like the blades, you know, you can't hit anything with it. They're all protected.
Right?
So that problem's gone.
But a fender bender, the blades would slam into the fucking structure, and then you'd be dead.
But.
Yeah, I don't think I want to be part of that in no time.
No, not for the first few generations of it. Let's sort that out first.
You got to get the kinks out first.
You ever fuck with electric cars, huh?
I mean, I got a Tesla, but nothing major. Yeah, that's what I still haven't let it auto drive me, though.
No, that's scary. I do it a little.
Oh, you do.
I go doot, doot, and I just like, kind of barely hold on to the wheel, but it makes me feel weird.
Never went to sleep, though, in the midst of it. No, oh yeah.
Yeah, I was watching a guy on video, somebody captured him from the cell phone, and this dude was asleep in his Tesla at bumper-to-bumper highway. Just out cold, okay, and the car moves forward and stops, moves forward and stops, and he's just snoring.
All it take is one wrong malfunction and everybody, uh-uh.
Yeah, that can happen. It's not all worked out yet. Don't go to sleep, bro.
But you know, man, it's so crazy. You stayed there because I was saying I was going to find somebody tied in a Tesla. I wanted to just get the Tesla truck just because I don't know why.
Oh, it looks amazing.
Yeah, I think more so for the looks.
Oh, it looks amazing. I saw one in real life and I was blown away because the pictures look good, but when you're there in real life, it's big.
Oh, it is.
It's big and it's stamped steel, like that's not like a regular door. that's a door that can stop a 45 round. Hmm, yeah, the whole thing is stamped steel and it raises and lowers.
So he hits a button and it goes.
It gets up like, I think it raises like 16 inches or something crazy like that. I might be wrong, but it has insane horsepower. It goes 0 to 60 in like three and a half seconds.
This giant thing made out of stamped steel, it's a car of the future.
They were telling me, you have to be selected to be.
I mean, even though they say you can put money down on it, but you have to be. I think they're doing certain selected people that they'll get it early because I sure was trying to get one.
I think they started delivering them because there was a truck that someone filmed on the highway that had cybertrucks in it and they were delivering them somewhere. I don't know if it's delivering them to the final production, I don't know if it's delivering them to the actual owners. Are people driving those things yet?
I have seen and heard a lot of the stuff you're just saying. And right now, it says like someone might have leaked the event. They've sent out emails saying people might be able to come get them soon. Upcoming delivery event in Austin. Oh, shit.
It could be next month or next year.
Oh shit, they finished building the factory out here already.
Yeah, the Gigafactory.
You know, I bought.
It was so crazy. Right before they did it. I bought 15 acres in Thrall, Texas, not far from here, and then they just told me. The price of my land down there almost doubled just because of the Tesla factory.
That makes sense, that's a great investment. Yeah, that factory is nuts. Have you ever seen it? That's where they showed us the cybertruck.
It's huge.
Like, the factory looks like the Death star. As you're pulling up to it, you're like, What are they making here? I think it's the biggest building I've ever been in.
That's crazy. They brought it right to Texas, that's a good thing. Yeah, everything bigger in Texas.
Yeah.
Isn't it one of the biggest car production buildings ever, or something like that? It's something crazy like that.
Tesla If you hear us right now, we want a cybertruck, we definitely want one.
Yeah, we need to get that. That thing looks amazing.
It's the second largest building by volume in the world 10 million square feet of floor space.
That means a lot of people got jobs.
Yeah, a lot of people got jobs, a lot of cars are getting made, they're getting made right here.
See if you could google Cybertruck, let me see what it looks like when it's driving around. Do they have a video of anybody driving it?
YouTube Shorts has quite a few videos, there's an inside video someone has here, there's one driving around L..A. here.
When you see it in real life, man, it's sick. It really does look like something from the future.
Yeah.
I mean, that looks like a future car. Look at that thing. If you were looking at a movie from 2023 in 1984, you would think this, Yeah, they're going to have future-looking spacecraft trucks. When you see it in real life, it's undeniable.
You see it in real life. I thought it was cool-looking in pictures, but you see it in real life. This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's amazing and there's no reason for it.
There's no reason to make a bulletproof electric vehicle with stamped steel. Why are you doing that? That's the cool thing about Elon, he does whatever the fuck he wants.
I was just going to say, it just seemed like he being able to live his childhood out. At this point, he's doing whatever he feels.
He does whatever he wants.
Yeah.
He does whatever he wants, it's amazing, he's got enough money and ability to get things done.
I mean, that dude made his rocket extra pointy to be more like spaceballs, right? wasn't it spaceballs?
He loves spaceballs.
He loves that movie, so he made the rocket extra pointy to be like the rocket from Spaceballs.
That shit probably cost him a few million just to do that shit.
Yeah, fuck yeah, he's having fun. I like when billionaires have fun, you know?
Do you use X?
I mean, here and there, so most of the stuff that I put on Instagram, I just rehab it on there.
Yeah, yeah, do you fuck with TikTok or any of the other ones, too?
I'm learning it, man. So I've been more of a hands-on Instagram, so I have people that do like my TikTok. I can get on it if I want to. And I still don't even know nothing about Facebook.
I have people doing that for me too, so I literally can. Whatever I post from Instagram, I just take it there because I don't know I built my Instagram following to. That's just who I'm used to.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, What do you use more?
I use Instagram most, yeah, but I love X for information. I still feel weird saying x.
Yeah.
Twitter, whatever I like that for information, it's always interesting, always interesting stuff coming up.
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