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Season 4 returns 8/8. Host Payne Lindsey heads to the edge of the arctic circle to investigate two mysterious disappearances from Nome, Alaska. Up and Vanished investigates mysterious cold case disappearances with each new season of the hit true crime franchise. Season 1: The case of missing South Georgia teacher, Tara Grinstead, led to two arrests. Season 2: The disappearance of Kristal Reisinger, a young mother who disappeared from a remote Colorado mountain town. Season 3: The North West Montana disappearance of Ashley Loring HeavyRunner, an indigenous woman who went missing from the Blackfeet Nation Indian Reservation. Season 4: The case of missing Alaska Native, Florence Okpealuk and missing 36-year-old Joseph Balderas.
Hey, it's Payne here. A brand new season of Up and Vanished is on its way. The new
season premieres this January, and I can assure you this is by far the most intense case I've
ever been a part of. In the meantime, between now and January, I'd love for you to check
out my new weekly podcast. It's called Talking to Death, where I interview different friends,
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new season of Up and Vanished this January. And here's a clip from my interview with the
amazing Jeff Foxworthy from my new weekly podcast called Talking to Death.
I mean, so the Tara Grinstead thing, that's just probably two guys in a drunken moment
making a bad decision. 100%. That escalates like a snowball down a hill. Yep.
Now, so let me ask you this. So from your side of it, when you start pulling that thread,
you have no idea if there's going to be a satisfactory end at the end of it.
Not at all. Does that, as you're going through it, do you think,
oh crap, this may end up being nothing? I mean, you definitely have those moments of,
it's maddening, I'll put it that way. As a storyteller, innately, that is maddening to
not be in control of the ending in that way. Yeah. But it also propels me to get that ending.
Like a joke without a punchline. Yeah, exactly. You're doing the whole setup, but yeah.
Yeah. I've learned over the years that if I can get enough things lined up and avenues to go down,
I can see some sort of ending that will be satisfactory at the bare minimum. If I've become
convinced that these individuals did this, then I can do as much as I can to prove that.
Well, I think what you accomplished in that story probably propelled podcasts so far because then
people that were listening were like, hell, I might be able to be part of the solution to this.
Yeah. But did you ever have trepidation
as, hey, I'm poking a hornet's nest here and this might backfire on me?
Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, when I first started, I was like, this is pretty scary.
I shouldn't be doing this. Why am I poking around? Yeah, the people that did this may
just drive by and shoot me going down the road. Yeah. But in the headspace I was in though,
I felt like I had nothing to lose in my life at that point. My mom would probably be like,
yeah, your life. I'm like, yeah, mom, but like my life's not going so well right now. Right.
I felt like a failed artist or something. Okay. And so I really kind of was willing to take that
risk. It got the most serious once the arrests were made because I had a choice then to either
hang it up and just let it happen or keep investigating this now that I have two prime
suspects to look into. And I decided to keep going and I doubled down again. And we learned a lot
more about. Oh, a lot. What really happened. And that was a conscious decision that was probably
scariest because now law enforcement was stay out of my way. Right. Thanks, but go away now.
Stay out of my way, even though the work you were doing kind of got them to the point of being able
to make the arrest. Yeah. Like we'll take it from here. Yeah. I was like, okay. And I, you know,
I really, I've said this a few places, but all the years later when they finally had the trial,
Ryan Duke was found not guilty. And I was really just blown away that in the five years after these
arrests, they did really no other work to convict this guy. They really just kept the same exact
narrative. Like they were too stubborn about it. And every like every detail that we brought up
in the podcast and Up and Vanished that kind of poked a hole in it. Yeah. So, hey, that was for
you guys to look at and consider. And run with it. I'm not trying to, you know, damage your case,
but that's exactly what the defense did was use that kind of information that was,
that they could find on their own too. Right. It was just the truth. Yeah. I mean, it's,
yours is a little bit, at least as a comic, I have, I have a little more control of
how something ends. Totally. You know, while we both love a story,
I get to lead mine more than yours kind of leads you.
Please go listen to the rest of my new weekly show called Talking to Death,
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