Promise To Maui, Climate Change Backdrop, Emerging Economies Summit

2023-08-22 00:12:39

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6Speaker 6
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President Biden makes a promise to Hawaii.

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For as long as it takes, we're gonna be with you.

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Wildfire survivors say housing must be a priority.

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I'm A. Martinez, that's Michelle Martin,

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and this is Up First from NPR News.

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It's been a summer of extremes,

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from wildfires to flooding,

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what part does climate change play?

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Plus the leaders of five emerging economies

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talk cooperation and competition.

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Our world has become increasingly complex and fractured.

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Universities increasingly polarized

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and competing with each other.

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How will they confront those divisions?

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Stay with us, we'll give you the news you need

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to start your day.

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President Biden is making a promise to survivors

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of one of the deadliest wildfires in U.S. history.

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For as long as it takes, we're gonna be with you.

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The whole country will be with you.

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The president traveled to Maui to pledge federal help

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in rebuilding the historic seaside town of Lahaina.

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That's where the death toll has now risen to 115.

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Most of those victims remain unidentified.

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NPR's Jennifer Ludden is in Maui

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and she's on the line with us now to tell us more.

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Jennifer, hello, thanks for joining us.

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Hi.

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So it's been two weeks since this terrible fire.

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Where are the survivors now?

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Well, you know, a lot of them are still squeezing in

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with family and friends, but now more than 1,900

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have been placed in hotels or Airbnbs.

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You know, this is a big tourist destination.

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There are a lot of those.

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Amanda Vieira's family of four is in a one bedroom

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with about three weeks of rent help from the state

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and she is grateful.

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But she says because of damage from the fire,

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you know, cell service has been spotty

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and just applying for aid online

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has been incredibly difficult.

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There's no Wi-Fi and stuff and so I have to like

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stand at a certain spot in my room to get internet,

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which is hard and, you know, we lost two cars,

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a dirt bike and you can't get anywhere to get Wi-Fi

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if you don't have a car.

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You know, Vieira just got approved for a FEMA payment.

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She says it's $5,462 and it is supposed to be

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for two months housing, but she says the place

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that she's in now is a lot more than that.

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And it's not easy finding housing here.

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In one of the most expensive markets in the country,

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there was a housing shortage even before the fire.

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Vieira says her sister-in-law got so frustrated

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looking for a place, she and her kids

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just left for Washington State.

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You know, that sounds like a huge challenge.

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So what are people being told about how long

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they'll even have this aid?

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Hawaii's governor has said people will have

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their housing paid into next spring.

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But a lot of people I speak with,

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they just don't seem to trust that,

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especially Delos Reyes.

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There's a couple of resorts in this area

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that they're trying to open in 11 days, 12 days.

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So now where does those hotel rooms go, right?

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Says they need tourism,

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or they think they need tourism here.

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Reyes was born and raised here

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and there is some tension around tourism.

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It's helped drive up the cost of living,

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though of course it also provides many thousands of jobs.

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Several people have told me they see

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so many empty vacation homes right now

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and they just wish more of those owners

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would let fire survivors stay in them for a bit.

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So during President Biden's visit,

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he and other political leaders repeatedly said

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that Lahaina should be rebuilt

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the way that residents want it.

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Are you hearing from people about that

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and what are they saying?

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Very much so.

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There is a real fear that longtime residents

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will lose their land here to developers.

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And you know, this place has cultural significance.

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It was the site of the capital of the Hawaiian kingdom.

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And you do see this over and over

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after extreme weather events.

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Rebuilding is expensive and people get priced out.

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And in Lahaina, it was the older,

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less expensive area that burned.

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At least two apartments were subsidized housing

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and last year one of them fought a legal battle

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against a developer to keep it that way.

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Now the governor has said he wants to find some way

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to ban property sales for a while.

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Some residents say they've already gotten phone calls

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wanting to buy their land and community activists

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have been rallying them,

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telling them to stay strong and not sell.

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That's NPR's Jennifer Ludden in Maui.

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Jennifer, thank you.

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Thank you.

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There is no ignoring this.

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Extreme weather events that are disrupting

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so many lives this summer

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and in too many cases, taking lives.

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Yeah, listen to this list.

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Intense wildfires in Hawaii, in Washington state

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a hurricane that has walloped Mexico, California

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and Nevada and now threatens Oregon and Idaho

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and a suffocating heat wave

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across the Central and Southern US.

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Rebecca Hersher from NPR's climate desk is here

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to tell us more about this.

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Good morning, Rebecca.

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Good morning.

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Okay, so let's just say it.

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This isn't just bad luck, is it?

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No, no, not at all.

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You know, it's all related to human caused climate change.

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Climate change does not cause extreme events, right?

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But really intense fires and hurricanes,

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it makes them more likely and more common.

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So as the earth heats up, we increasingly get these years

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especially summers where it feels like disaster

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on disaster and disaster,

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all of them driven in part by warmer temperatures.

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So for example, hurricanes, they've always happened

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but when the ocean is abnormally hot at the surface

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it helps hurricanes grow.

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We are seeing that right now in both the Pacific

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where Hurricane Hillary formed

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and there are multiple potential storms right now.

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The same is true for wildfires.

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Wildfires are an important part of healthy forest ecosystems

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but drought and heat can make them burn more widely,

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make them burn more intensely than in the past.

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So if it feels like it can't be normal,

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it's not or it didn't used to be.

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So is this a preview of our future

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on a planet that's heating up?

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You know, in some ways I think yes, especially in August,

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you know, it can be a stark reminder of climate change

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and the fact that there are millions of people in the US

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this time of year because there is so much extreme weather

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but it's not like this year is that exceptional,

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to be frank, you know, especially if you zoom out

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and look at the planet as a whole.

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Last year, there were record-breaking hurricanes

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and wildfires and heat waves.

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The year before that, same deal.

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The year before that and the year before that.

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And I say that not to minimize it, but to give the context,

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you know, the last nine years are the hottest nine years

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recorded on planet earth.

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Climate change is just relentlessly wreaking havoc

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on people everywhere.

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It's just a matter of when that extreme weather

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will come for you and arrive in your community.

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Is it possible to avoid even more catastrophic effects?

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You know, it is.

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The big thing is to dramatically reduce

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greenhouse gas emissions.

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Stop burning oil and gas and coal,

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transition to wind and solar.

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Scientists say that we need to reduce

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greenhouse gas emissions in half by the end of the decade

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and get all the way to basically zero by 2050.

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Right now, it is not clear that there's political will

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to do that.

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There's an array of fossil fuel and corporate interests

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that are slowing things down.

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The other thing to remember though,

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is that even though climate change

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does make the weather more intense,

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we can lessen the damage by building our homes

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and our local grids in resilient ways,

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by having emergency plans that keep

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climate-driven weather in mind,

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because it's gonna keep happening,

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by preparing and protecting those

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who are most vulnerable to this weather.

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You know, I'm thinking about floods

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like the ones in California this week

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or the fire in Maui.

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The weather was related to climate change

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to varying degrees,

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but how we prepare for and react to that weather

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can determine who lives and who dies.

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That's Rebecca Herscher from NPR's climate desk.

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Rebecca, thanks so much once again.

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Thanks.

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What's known as the BRICS group of emerging economies,

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Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa,

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kicks off its annual summit today in Johannesburg.

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It's a block of nations that is sometimes dismissed

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for a lot of talk with little substance.

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But this year, the US and Europe are watching closely

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because of how polarizing Russia's invasion

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of Ukraine has been.

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China's President Xi Jinping will attend in person.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin will not,

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but will join virtually to avoid putting South Africa

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in the awkward position of having to arrest him

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for war crimes under an international criminal court warrant.

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We're gonna hear more about this

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from Kate Bartlett in Johannesburg.

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So why don't you just start us off with the headlines.

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What are the key issues these leaders will take up?

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Well, two main things on the agenda this year,

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namely the possible expansion of the block

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Already, collectively BRICS accounts for 25% of global GDP

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and 40% of the world's population.

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Now, some 40 more countries have expressed interest

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in joining the block.

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And like the current grouping,

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they include a politically diverse group

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with democracies like Argentina and autocracies like Iran.

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But not all the BRICS members

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are as keen on expansion as others.

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Russia is spearheading the push for expansion

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and like Ukraine, Russia is increasingly isolated.

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Another main issue on the agenda will be the block's desire

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to move away from US dollar dominance

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and to promote more use of its own currencies.

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Kate, would you say more about whether the group

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is becoming more relevant?

4Speaker 4
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I think so.

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The sheer number wanting to join

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shows many global South countries buy what BRICS is selling

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an alternative to what they see as a US dominated

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unequal global order.

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Something the summit host

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and South Africa's president Cyril Ramaphosa

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referred to in an eve of summit address to the nation.

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Let's hear what he had to say.

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An expanded BRICS will represent a diverse group of nations

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with different political systems that share a common desire

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to have a more balanced global order.

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Our world has become increasingly complex and fractured

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as it is increasingly polarized

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and competing with each other.

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And the Ukraine war will likely be the elephant in the room

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with Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov

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filling in for Putin.

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Both China and South Africa

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have officially remained neutral on the war

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but have each proposed peace plans.

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But host country South Africa has received a lot of flack

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for not criticizing the Russian invasion

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and its perceived bias towards Moscow.

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But Ramaphosa says it doesn't serve African nations

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who are drawn into a kind of new cold war.

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And before we let you go,

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I take it that China's president Xi

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is not just there for the summit, is he?

4Speaker 4
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That's right.

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Possibly most significantly,

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Chinese president Xi Jinping is also paying

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an official state visit to South Africa today.

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It's only his second international trip this year

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after visiting Russia.

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China is South Africa's biggest trade partner by far

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and a significant presence in Africa.

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But South African officials have stressed

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there is a trade imbalance that needs addressing.

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There have also been concerns

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about how China's own economic downturn might affect trade.

3Speaker 3
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That's reporter Kate Bartlett in Johannesburg.

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Kate, thank you so much.

4Speaker 4
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Thank you.

3Speaker 3
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And that's Up First for Tuesday, August 22nd.

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