Kim Petras: The Throat Goat [VIDEO]

What is up Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call her Daddy.

Kim Petras Welcome to call her daddy. Yay, hi, thanks for having me. I am so happy you came in your sparkle clogs. Hell yeah, you showed up.

You pick your outfit today? Um, just kind of I went off the clogs, they really dictated everything else. I don't know, just kind of felt like witchy. I've been in my witchy vibe.

You need to confirm for everyone, though, are they comfortable? Um, yeah, they're comfortable.

Like, I would say, like, pool slide vibes, pool slide just a little heavier, but you're not going to like, run in those No.

Say, I'm so happy for you. You are everywhere right now in the best way. Your music, your personality, like everything you're doing, is just fucking incredible and I'm so excited for you. You won a Grammy, Hi.

And how did you celebrate? Um, it felt insane, it felt like something that just shouldn't happen to me, honestly, you know, I'm such a like, you know? I've just been performing in like gay clubs for so long and been like in that scene. And like, Sam really changed my life with that song. And um, I mean, I went to Diplo's party after, so that was really, really fun.

Cool dude, that is so crazy to think about going on stage and accepting a Grammy and just being like, I hope I can get my words out. Like, I hope I say one thing that like.

Did you have a full speech planned or no? I did, but I like, five minutes before, like our category was on. I just like, put it away, and I was like, just speak from like this moment and from your heart. And, uh, yeah, because Sam really put me in spots. Sam was like, I'm going to have you accept the Grammy if we win it. Uh, just because I've done it and like, blah, blah, blah.

I feel like now having sat down with people in the music industry, like we were talking about Anita, how Anita is the best? Shout out, we love you, Anita. Um, but Anita also kind of talked to me about that of like, she's actually really shy and then like, she has this alter ego that she infuses into her music. And it's just the way that she's able to, like, put her, I guess, side like personality, that she wants to be into Anita, the character.

One million percent. I feel like that's always just been like my saving grace in life from like, my shyness. It's just when I'm on stage, it's like something clicks and I'm a completely different person and I just feel in line with everything. I don't overthink myself, I feel like confident because, like, the one thing that I know how to do is perform and write songs.

I can't cook, but I just want a fucking Grammy. That's right. It's okay, Kim. It's okay. I think we would all take that over being able to cook.

No, I was in my school, I remember being such a freak to everyone. Because since I was a kid, it was very public that I was trans and I was very open about it. And so I was just kind of this like, nerdy, weird kid. And no one thought I was pretty or sexy or anything like that. And so I doubted. Being able to do that stuff, and especially being in a swimsuit, was like, I definitely had a nervous breakdown the day before.

When you say that when you were younger, that you were like, people never saw me as like, sexy and cute. When do you think you started to actually for yourself? did you always feel sexy and cute? You're like, Fuck you guys.

Um, I mean, it's still waiting, No, I mean, I honestly, I think. What gave me a lot of, a lot of confidence, and what built my confidence was becoming an artist and becoming a writer and going on stages and stuff like that. And once I kind of found my like friends and gay people in general who, like, celebrated me for who I am. And that whole. You know, I think once I started going to gay clubs, I was like, I belong here and I get the music, I get the people, I get what it's all about.

I totally get what you're saying. Sometimes I actually think it's way better to feel like you're a little outside, because then you're also just going based off of your own parameters of like, half the time. We're just trying to be like other people, that's so fucking boring, like I don't want to be like anyone else.

Oh yeah, for sure, you have to, you have to.

Wait, and you're from Germany, right?

I'm from Germany, yeah.

Can you tell me in German how to say welcome to call her daddy?

Oh, German is the unsexiest language of all time. I feel like that's why I also like, I've just always been like, a little more the weird German immigrant, you know, in America, because, like, it's just not a sexy language. I have a song on my spooky Halloween album where I sing German, and it comes in handy when you want to sound scary.

Alex, fick dich, gib mir bessere Fragen, Hallo.

Oh my God, Alex, gib mir bessere Fragen.

Fuck right, it's scary.

That is scary, but I can't. I do kind of feel like you made it kind of sexy, like, like, I think you have a little, you know, you got something.

Dankeschön.

Oh, okay, I'm gonna learn how to say all that by the end of this, okay? So you talked about how you started your career in gay clubs all around the country? Yeah, clearly, that was such a huge part of your coming up.

I think they just really immediately kind of got it. I mean, I remember, like my first few years, like going back and forth from New York and just kind of being a club kid and having my first few songs out. And just like performing on a bar stool, or like a table, you know, like? And people were just like, I get this and I understand this. And just like, since I'm a part of the community, it's like, it makes sense. But they were the first, like all the little Bushwick kids, like, were the first ones to play my music, and I'll never forget that.

Right, that's literally all you could ask for, like, you want, you want all the gays being like, Fuck, yes, this is the bar, oh wow.

I think, if anything, it made me double down on it, like it. Just like whenever someone says that something is like, something that I'm passionate about and something that I love. I go harder in that, is not it, I go harder in that direction and I feel like. So that honestly gave me like, so much like. Will to like, prove that there's people who will come to my shows and that I can have a big song and all of that stuff.

Yeah, and we can sell, bitch. We won a Grammy.

Yeah, totally, we have a number one.

When you're saying you're in these clubs, do you remember any like early, fun stories for us? Of like memories from performing in these clubs that have stuck with you? Of like, just iconic moments for yourself in your career?

Signing dicks is one of them. That must be pretty out there. That's pretty good, totally like doing my fans poppers on stage hitting weed pens from my signing weed pens. Um, yeah, I signed all kinds of body parts.

That is so fucking cool to just be like, that's also how your career started of. Like, basically, you're just having fun partying and you're singing and everyone loves your music, and you're just like thriving. But I wonder, Do you ever? Yeah, I was gonna say, Do you miss that? Because then you're like standing on stage and it's a little bit more formal. Yeah, there's some more choreography going.

I do miss it a little bit. I miss mostly going to clubs undetected. I can go to straight clubs now undetected, but I can't go to gay clubs anymore. Without taking a million photos. And I party, you know, I feel like I really love to, you know, just party and not think about how I look.

Yeah, like a little short haircut, crew neck, little wig, maybe be like red, or maybe that's too much attention, maybe a black sunglasses huge mustache.

Totally a detransition moment. Yeah, yeah, just for us to come back.

You're like, I don't like this. Um, I am actually interested to growing up in Germany, like, what is the difference between nightclubs in Germany versus nightclubs in America?

Oh, I think it goes way later. In Germany, I think people are down to be there until the morning, which is fun, especially if you like, think about Berlin and like, Berghain and all that stuff. It's definitely, and there's more techno, there's weirder music.

Do you prefer American clubs or German clubs?

Oh, they both have their, you know, pros and cons. I think in general, like now, like American clubs, because like, I need to actually be up the next day and do stuff right.

I always, when I was younger was like, I was liking going out late. But now, as I get older, I'm like, why can't we start at five o'clock? I know, start raging and go to bed by midnight and like, I can do the same shit.

I endorse this, I endorse this idea like I love like starting early now and just like waking up the next day, not completely fucked like, completely.

Because in your next, like, 48 hours, you're just not a human being functioning in the world. Yeah, and I can't afford to do that with this career.

Yeah, totally, you can't and me neither like we have to like.

Yeah, exactly so American clubs, just because it's a little bit more responsible in terms of our timing. Let's go to Germany.

Definitely, I think people in general just like, go a little more crazy there, got it.

What is your favorite song of yours to hear played in a club?

Oh, my favorite song of mine to play in a club, Treat me like a slut. Yeah, I have this record called Slut Pop, which is all just like my sluttiest self. And just only saying the most ridiculous sex shit there is. Which was so freeing and fun to make. And honestly, like, I feel like all my coolest fans like that's their favorite.

I love that answer so much. And we're going to talk about Slut Pop in a little bit because it's truly iconic and it's call her daddy. Something very cool about your career is the fact that you are self-made. You have been doing this since you were super young, you were teaching yourself how to write and how to produce in your bedroom.

Honestly, from being excluded from social life, I feel like no one really got me, you know, in my small town in Germany. Because I'm not technically from Cologne even, which is already kind of a small city. I was like two hours outside, like countryside, cows, grass and I just. I loved music. That was kind of the one thing that I would always do, like, always listen to music on repeat and pop music in particular.

It's so inspiring to hear you talk obviously about, like, there's a lot of people that can probably relate to you. Of like, being really isolated when you're younger, not feeling like you're fitting in. And just like, trying to find an escape, which you clearly found the best escape for yourself, and it worked out. What would you say to your younger self? That like Kim sitting in her room alone, just being like, kind of isolated and getting picked on?

Live a little, I would say that I was like, really like a maniac, just like only working. And I feel like my whole teen years. Like, I didn't go to like parties, I was like, just like, just fully focused and so I would tell myself to live a little. And that things are going to happen when they're supposed to happen.

That's why, like the internet is, I hate it and love it because you're so real. Like I remember when I was younger. Like YouTube, I would find, like anything that you were going through. If you were alone, you could find someone somewhere on the internet.

I love the same shit, yeah.

And so there's like a saving grace, obviously, of you saying like, I didn't know anyone trans. I was by myself going through it. And I know you've been open, like your family was very supportive of you. But still, even when, like your parents are like, we got you, it's like, Kate, mom, dad, like, love you.

Yeah, I feel like it's a unique situation. So I like to talk about it now because I feel like it's it's something where, yeah, it's just like a unique point of view. And I think it comes in as my strength sometimes that I get to write from that perspective, because, like.

And yeah, I love it, you know? It's so true, because it's like, when you break it down, it's like, just let everyone do whatever the fuck they want to do. Yeah, and it's stopped trying to just talk about people in one specific way. No one would be happy if the roles were reversed.

Totally, and every person is their own thing, you know, completely. And I feel like just more than ever. I'm just trying to, you know, show people what's in my mind. What you know what my music is about, what I stand for. Rather than, you know all the just talking about being trans all the time.

Completely, totally. I think your accomplishments, I mean, we could go through them all, but they speak for themselves, like, you've really popped off in an unbelievable way.

I think Madonna is someone who broke a lot of these like gender stereotypes and who can be very, you know, masculine in some of her music. And talk about sex very freely and in a very different way, and just like was so ahead of her time in. Like, liberating people from feeling this shame about their sexuality, and especially gay people. I mean, she did that shit in the 90s when it was really, really rough for gay people. And I will forever, just like, feel inspired and liberated by her taking the hit for so many people. Because she, really, you know, was called like a witch and like all this crazy stuff for just talking about her sexuality and just being so all out there. And I respect that in someone if they can be.

Dude that is picturing you like fully tied up, just being like, Do I wink? I know?

Oh my God, yeah.

No, I so agree with everything you're saying about Madonna. It's it's so crazy to look back at certain eras where we were so young and watching. Like every generation has it, where there's certain people that just become essentially the people that are breaking down barriers. In and in that generation, I know so many people were like, Madonna's crazy, like she should be taken off air, like she shouldn't be able to do this.

Not only it's, it's so freaking cool. And like, what, what? She said, too, because like, I think she was saying that she was supposed to like, Uh, do like the record of the year or something like that. And she said she wanted to introduce the first trans performer at the Grammys. And like, I was like, Oh, you really are the coolest ever exist.

The coolest, Yeah, didn't you meet her for the first time? drunk at an SNL after party? Yes.

She came to the SNL after party.

How drunk were you?

I was so obliterated. I just kept talking her like ear off about confessions on the dance floor. And I was like, That's one of the best like albums ever.

It's a timeless classic.

And like, people don't really like, appreciate it enough, and like when you did this on Ray of Light, it was like the most. It changed my life. I was listening to it, I felt like so much less alone and like I was just talking to you.

She's like, Sweetie, let's just pose so you can catch a breath.

I know, I know I'm, she must think I'm insane.

No, no, I bet she gets that all the time, and also it's just it's, it's so genuine. That's also just so iconic though. For you to be like hammered at a party, being like Madonna, like, I love you, we love you, Madonna.

I love you so much.

Okay, Kim, we're gonna play a game.

Let's play this game.

We're gonna play, would you rather? Okay, some of these are really fucking random, so don't judge me.

Okay, I love it, okay.

Would you rather accidentally post a nude on your Instagram or butt dial your parents during sex?

Post a nude on my Instagram. I feel like I have no like decency left anyways. Like you can find dudes of nudes of me anywhere. So I was gonna say, Yeah, I feel like I have my tits out at every shoot. Like, it's like, Yeah, at this point, I'd rather do a nude. Because, like, I feel like calling my parents during sex would be disturbing for them.

And for you after when you relive it.

Definitely.

Because also how bad to find out that you butt dialed them, but you figure out after so you're replaying. Like, what was I saying during sex? like, how nasty was that sex? like, what was I doing?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, great. So rather post a nude love that I agree. Would you rather go a month without sex or a month without music?

A month without sex? I'm definitely there. Yeah, I'm so single and like, honestly, like I've just been so busy, like there's no hope right now.

And you can, like, re-listen to your music all the time, in like a not stalkery way. That you're like, not over texting the person, you're just re-listening to your music.

I'm not like re-watching their stories, I just listen to the song I wrote about them a million times.

I think that's a great, great answer. Um, I know you love horror movies, and I know you love Halloween. So would you rather never be able to watch a scary movie again, or never be able to dress up for Halloween?

Oh, it's like, mean, I mean, Halloween is gay Christmas, you know? It's like, it's so so in me.

And then you can just go dress up another time of the year. Yes, okay, that's fair, I like that.

Someone who screams the whole time, at least I know that they're into it, you know, like, but silence would just throw me off.

Right, like, at least, you know, they're there.

Yeah, totally. It would just make me feel like they don't want this to happen and that would be that would really be.

I've had like some hookups where the guy is so quiet and I'm like, I just need like, a couple grunts.

Like, I know me, too.

Give me like a like fuck, like, oh fuck.

I know I hate that, I hate that, like a lot of guys are like, too in the zone, yeah.

Just let it go.

Totally let it go. It's like, honestly hot.

I agree.

Yes.

Would you rather never give head again or never receive head again?

Never receive head again. Giving head is like the funnest thing of my life, honestly, like it's so fun.

We're going to get into the throat, go back.

Yes, yes, don't worry.

We're getting there. Would you rather accidentally bite someone's dick, giving a blowjob, or throw up on it?

Oh, it's such a rough one, I feel like accidentally bite. I mean, it's not defined how hard it has to be. You know, maybe it can just be a little tooth, right?

Like, a little, a little snaggled.

Yeah, like, just tiny with tooth, right? It's better than throwing up because I don't think I could work that out on therapy.

Right, right, like it would have to be the kind of throw up where? because I've had that before, where you basically do throw up. But you suck it all back up before it leaks.

In that case, extra lube.

Anything free lube, chunky lube.

I want a chunky lube t-shirt, chunky lube t-shirt. They're like, what does that mean?

On the back, throw up.

That's my brand, I'm going to make so good.

Would you rather have drunk sex or high sex? high sex? Me too, so much better.

So good.

Would you rather be in the Mile High Club or fuck in someone's car?

Someone's car, yeah, I feel like planes are like in bathrooms, are just gross.

Yeah, disgusting.

Totally, but I respect it like I have some like friends and like, especially like my gay friends that I like travel with. They're like, Yeah, I sat next to the hot guy and then we fucked. And like, I'm just like in my pod, like with like, my eye mask on and like, you know.

It's not sexy. And like, I think maybe the allure could be like, Oh, you have to be quiet and hide it. I don't really want to have to do that. I'd rather be in the car, just like using the seatbelt, like, choke me out, let's go.

I feel like cars are just in general like such a good spot in a car with a boy.

Yeah, and they can move to what's happening that gives a little like, Yeah, it gets a little foggy.

There's a lot of good Titanic, exactly.

Both of us, let's talk about your dating life. You said, you know you're in a you're in a little dry spell, and we love that, so you're not dating anyone.

No, I'm not dating anyone.

Are you interested in dating at all?

Yeah, I mean, I'm interested in it, but honestly, I feel like it's been something that's just like, I'm good without, too. And I feel like I've always been a relationship girl like, I love a relationship. I'm not like a quick hookup girl, even though, like, sometimes, you know, I don't have a choice.

I was gonna say, yeah, like, what is dating life like now as a pop star? Compared to, like, maybe a couple years ago, where you still had, like, a little anonymity?

Yeah, it's really changed and I feel like people are just in general, like, a little scared of me now, which is kind of good. You know, it's just like weed them out, like you have to, just like, say that you want me now.

The full clog. It felt like it was 500 pounds. We just hit the floor. Oh, and you're like, I don't have time for you? Boom, yeah.

Yeah, I think in general, like, Slap pop really changed how guys see me, because, like, I feel like a lot of the guys that I'm dating have heard slap pop. And like, Know that? And they're like, You know, and it's like, Yeah, I'm the girl who sings Throat goat, you know? And. And they just feel like they have to, like, live up to this crazy expectation. And that's like, not, you know? It's like such a persona for that record that it's like, that's not me, you know? I'm also someone who, just like, wants to watch horror movies with you and like, cuddle and be cute, totally.

Really, what do you have a type?

I don't really, I feel like every single guy is like, is very different. I think the type that I have is just like the energy, being good and being funny, being honest, being like, loyal. I think that's like the big ones for me. And just like I like sweet guys, I like when you're sweet, you know?

But you just said you're picking some of the wrong guys, so what's going on?

So the not sweet guys, yeah, I don't know, just guys who like, keep me like, dangling, or I think they have to constantly, like, do stuff to, you know, keep me obsessed with them. Then I'm on the road and like, then you don't talk to me, and then I'm back.

It's just like, Yeah, it's exhausting.

It's exhausting.

Do you let your friends set you up with people or no?

I do, yeah. I went on a date with a guy who my friend set me up with recently. Didn't really go anywhere, but it was. It was fun. Because, like sharing similar friends, you can at least talk about the friends, true?

She's so cool, she's the best. You have a commonality to talk about. Yeah, so you're not like, how's your drink?

Yeah, you could be like, Rebecca's a bitch, right?

Totally.

Yeah, I let my, I let my friend set me up, for sure.

When was your last relationship?

My last relationship was like one and a half years ago, and that was like a five year relationship, so like a long one. So I feel like I'm still, like, anyway, at the part where, like, I need to, like, be myself. Get over that relationship and all the stuff that that did to me because it wasn't like a very nice relationship. It made me feel awful about myself for a few years and that's the worst. I should have, like, cut it off when I felt it.

I think that's so relatable, Kim, and like, I also love how you were like, Oh my god. I should have gotten out earlier, but I'm so happy I did get out. I think so many times we're so hard on ourselves because when you're so deep in something, it's really hard to actually make the jump. To envision life. Even if it's toxic. Without that person. Because you've been living in it for so long, you have your routines that still is the person that you're with all the time.

It's really hard, but it's like, you're going to live and it's going to be okay. And you're going to figure it out again, you're going to get back into it. And honestly, life, like on your own, sometimes can be so much more like, purposeful and fulfilling. I feel like, really, I personally thrive when I have time by myself, where I just literally do whatever.

Amazing. What is your perfect ideal first date?

I don't think there is one. I really think that first dates are always going to be a little awkward. And I feel like my first thing I do is probably try to drink. Because I'm so nervous, I get really, really nervous. And it's such an awkward thing. When you know that you technically are attracted to each other, but you have to figure it out, do a little dance.

Yes, doing something so you're not just sitting across the table, being like, Hello.

Totally.

How are you doing?

Where you can actually do something. But I also like, when you show me one of your favorite places that you actually love going instead of like, I want to try out this new place, just show me where do you actually go?

What are we doing, Kim? are we fucking on the first date? are we waiting? Do you have any rules in your head, or do you just do whatever the fuck comes to you?

I live in the moment. I've definitely done the first date fuck, but I think it's usually when I do that, I'm then not interested anymore, really, yeah.

I love how you're, I love Kim's out here, breaking everyone's hearts. Like, give them the best sex after date one, and then you literally just ghosting everyone. You're like, Nah, you're like, I was happy, that was great.

Well, I'm just like in the next city, right, right?

You're gone, you're gone. Yeah, oh my god, that's actually. I've never heard someone say that.

I mean, maybe it was just the guys, maybe it was just a situation. I don't like to like, make a rule in general, but I think just like the guys. Like I went home with. I was just like, I just needed, like, rebound, attention, totally, and so I just like, Yeah, and then I was like, I get it.

Growing up, who was your celebrity crush?

Um, legolas in Lord of the Rings, like Kim that wig.

No, Kim, let me tell you something. Three, three of the people that I like, I'm like, what's wrong with me? Number one Johnny Depp, specifically as captain Jack Sparrow.

Yes.

Okay, number two Legolas Orlando Bloom, specifically as the Elf in Lord of the Rings, Hot the The Hair and the Ears, and then Edward Cullen as Vampire.

No, specifically as an elf, yeah, in the wig, as that character.

He was so hot.

I know it was so hot, like I, I, because I totally, uh, yeah, I don't know. That was just like I. I remember. Like, ha, like having a poster of him and like, just being so obsessed with him. And I will forever be obsessed with him, I'm going to be honest.

His name is Orlando Bloom, and I bet Orlando Bloom. Never thought like, of all the roles that I've ever played, everyone in the world's like the hottest version of you.

The Hot Elf baby.

Hot elf No, I'm not kidding. If you guys have, actually. I feel like if you don't have the context, like if you just google him it, you may all be like, you guys are freaks. Watch the movie because the context is important. He's just so like, I don't even remember.

His vibe?

He's hot, but he looks amazing.

Yeah, and he looks amazing, he looks stunning.

I, I have to be honest. I really never thought that I would sit across from someone in my entire career and have someone say the same thing. That I think of Legolas Elf, Orlando Bloom, I'm like, What the fuck?

And that's why we're on hinge, here we go, here we go, that's why we're here, and that's why we're here.

Let's go to slut pop. Okay, you've been mentioning it, but now we got to talk about it. You coined the term slut pop to describe your music. Can you define slut pop? For those who may be coming fans today?

Yes, slut pop is this really Euro house dance, 90s inspired? Uh, EP? And me and my friends would always make pop songs that were slightly slutty and say, Oh, this is slut pop. And so I just decided to go with it and make an EP. And just be the most slutty version of myself that I could wish I could be in life.

What are some of your craziest lines? That if people haven't heard it, it's like, give it, give them a little something.

Um, uh, these bitches can't suck like me. Walk in, I'm the sucking queen, look around, all eyes on me, jack it off, I'm a suck it clean.

It is, it is poetic, it's beautiful, it's touching me.

It's pure beauty, you know? If if you are art, you know you might not get it, you might get it.

But if you get it, you really get it like a slut.

Little dirty bitch, I love to fuck.

It's so, it's so good, Kim. Other than your own catalog, what's a song or an artist that you would also classify as, like, slut pop?

Oh, uh, Britney Spears is back out. Era that is just the best. Oh, no, like dirty and full slut pot, yeah.

Dude, I'm thinking about how you kind of said, like people after Slut pop, like people were kind of intimidated by you. Because it's like, you're coming in here being like, I am the throat goat, like I like, and all this shit. When did you actually start to just become really confident about talking about sex?

Um, I think in in general, when. When I made that, I think I was just like in a phase of my life where I felt like I was like, a little. Um, you know, just not talking about that part of my life enough. And I have so many friends, and especially as a trans girl, it's like, that are sex workers? I, you know, porn is great, porn like sex workers work. And it was a moment where OnlyFans was going to ban sex workers from his platform. Which would have taken away, like, the livelihood of a lot of my friends. And so I was like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.

So I love also that I had actually someone recently asked me. This reporter was like, I back in the day of call, her daddy came up with this thing called the Gluck Gluck 9,000.

I pull out the bottle and, like, Anita, No, that was iconic. What did she do?

She went, She was like, you do this, and then she said, Wear the invisalign on your bottom.

Yes, wear Invisalign. I want to try that.

I know I'm like calling my dentist and I'm like, I just need the bottom invisalign. They're like, Bitch, your teeth are fine? I'm like, No, just the bottom.

It's the funnest thing, like, I love giving blowjobs, it's my favorite thing in the world, It's I'm very, I pride myself in it, and I think that's awesome.

It's all on you, like your center stage, it's your time to shine.

It's literally your time to shine.

And like, it's like, Watch me go.

Eye contact, like that's a very important one and I don't know.

It's just like a little floppy.

I love when boys really like that, you know, and really.

Yeah.

It's like, I have to go.

No, I love it, and I think it's again, I just like that we're talking about it because it doesn't. There's nothing wrong with enjoying and pleasing your partner. No, and I think sometimes to all you know the people out there, it's like, if you are intimidated by it, you have to just reframe the way that you're thinking about it.

Yeah, and if you, if you don't enjoy it, that's fine, too, you know, find the things that you really love. I love giving, giving head, you know, and I call myself the throat goat and have been called that.

And that wasn't coined just by myself.

Thank you, goodbye.

Would you say you're more dominant or submissive in the bedroom?

Um, I, I'm pretty subby. Yeah, I'm pretty subby. Love it. But like, I gotta really like, trust someone and like, if you really like, like me to Dom, I will do it.

Love it, love it. When you say, treat me like a slut. What do you actually want your partner to do, Kim?

Um fuck me.

I love how you just push your glasses so I could. You're like, goodbye, I'm just I'm not making eye contact with you right now. Bend me over, put me in position, let's go, that's good.

Yeah, okay, good, okay, good, yeah. But I think in general, just like, make me feel like you really want me bad and need me, you know, like that's the hardest thing you can do.

Okay, on a just quickly, on a little bit more serious note, Um, are you like, Oh, girl, don't go there?

Out of nowhere.

Yeah, just out of nowhere.

I guess fucking in a car is awesome.

But yeah, maybe I should have like this is like a little too aggressive of a transition. I just realized, but no, I love it, okay.

Well, I feel like I need to hold it up. For all the. For all the young kids that are trans and getting, uh, you know, their rights taken away and all of that stuff that they're, you know, I? I try to find the best causes to to help, I try to stay in touch with all my trans friends and all of that. But just in general, I think it's brutal how people treat trans people. It's just like everybody deserves to live their lives, how they can, you know, and the way that they know how to get through life. And I feel like the the judgment around it is still so intense and scary.

Amen.

Amen.

Amen, let everyone live, however they want to fucking live.

You know, it's so annoying.

It's just so crazy, like the progress we've made in some areas that we're still having these conversations, and it's so infuriating.

Yeah, I mean, especially in America, it goes with, like, uh, you know, birth control and things like that. It's the same exact kind of thing where there's just people trying to tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies. And it's wrong and no one ever should. And it really, like, like, makes it so much harder for people to just like live their lives and make their own decisions. And it's just so annoying that our bodies are still being policed by people.

It's it's truly insane, but I do think it's. We are so fortunate that we can sit here. And you can use your music. And I can use this show as a platform to, just like, keep talking about it.

Totally.

I hope it anyone that it makes uncomfortable. Look inward as to why and like, start doing the work. And I think everyone that is supporting like keep supporting and be vocal and post on social media. And because I think it's so important that we just keep showing we aren't going anywhere. And and everyone should just be able to do whatever the fuck they want and we need to get on board with that.

I know it's really not that hard, it really only is hard to people who need to control other people in life. To get to be comfortable in life. Like, you need to be able to control your woman, to live with your ego and shit. And so, you know, cause you're too scared she's going to go in, you know?

Yeah, it's all to maintain their power, yes, and it's like, have your power over there, let us have our power over here.

Totally.

But like, Oh, we, I mean, we could sit here for fucking hours and tell them that they.

Can't bus anymore. Yeah, yeah.

Uh huh, uh huh.

We're sniffing you all, okay?

They're like, Oh, no, no, no, no, okay, do whatever you want.

Do whatever you want.

You take away their nut, they're like, Oh no, yeah, literally do whatever you want.

Um, okay.

You have a new album coming out, yes, and I'm so excited for you. The album is called Feed the Beast. Yes.

For me, it was it started with kind of feed the beat, uh, cause I feel like I constantly need to listen to music and and just do my thing over beats. And then it turned into Feed the Beast. Because, uh, I had an album leak, and, uh, my label told me you got to get back in the studio, make new songs and go feed the beast. And, uh, that was literally like, Okay, let me think about this. And then I kind of thought about myself and, like, my personal ambitions.

Kim How is this album different than past work that you've done?

Um, I think, I just. I think I just had it like a shift creatively, where I just like, kind of was a bitch to my co-writes and took more control. And was like, I just really came in with like, full songs flashed out again, kind of, kind of like I did in the very beginning, before people like, wanted to work with me. I just came in with fully fleshed concepts and then just was like, we're writing this. And I feel like I really took control. I worked with some people I've never worked with before. Um, I like travel, I like, did a bunch in Sweden, I did a bunch in London.

I am so excited. Where is the perfect place to listen to this album? Like, are we doing it at the club, are we working out, are we having sex?

In a car, getting fucked, um, literally, um, yeah, all of those places. I think that's the funnest thing about this. I think it has a lot of, a lot of club moments. But it also it does have a ballad, um, which is like kind of an unconventional ballad, which I'm excited for people to hear. Because, like, never really do that, like, I'm very against ballads usually, like, I love like Celine Dion, but I didn't think I could do that stuff.

Right here she comes.

Here I come, Uh, but yeah, I think you can, really. I think you can listen to it from front to back, by yourself. Getting ready in the bathroom, you can listen to it in the in the club, you can. Um, all of that stuff. So I think it's an overall, overall listening thing.

I'm so excited for you and for this summer. Are you going on tour?

What are we? Yeah, uh, not uh. Later this year, like a little after summer, and now it's just going to be up, uh. But yeah, I'm going on tour, um, uh. And I'm so, so excited to go on tour. Because like, it's been a freaking while and it's my favorite thing in the world and like, I miss it like nothing else in the world.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to see the outfit. I am so happy I got to sit down with you today. I've been wanting to do this for so long and you are like, I listen to you all the time.

So it's been an honor to be here.

No, like you truly have such an energy about you that you're so calm and a vibe and like, but you're like everything. It's just so fun to be able to, like, sit with you and actually get to know your personality because you are so, so sweet and funny and amazing. And I just, I can't wait to see what you do with your career. This is amazing.

Thank you so much, you're the best, thank you.