Questlove

My name is Questlove.

Um, being as being as though this podcast saved my life during the pandemic. Oh, I've heard every adjective used to describe, how does one want to be friends with Conan? However, before I give the adjective yes, I'm already going to break Jeff Goldblum's record.

But as a creator and a creator that relies on an editor, I want to know who's the person that has to extend Jack White's padding foot.

I love how we're talking, how long it's going, as it's going, yeah, that's right.

I'm sorry, I think you're free to wait. I wanted to minimize them as much as I could. The red hair. Which one is she?

Because no one knows her name. I want which one's the one that always pushes is that Lucy, Lucy, Lucy Van Pelt?

Yeah, you're very much Lucy to his.

Walking loose, climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are going to be friends.

I can tell that we are going to be friends. Hey there, welcome to Conan. O'Brien needs a friend.

I'm feeling good, must be nice, it is nice, it's nice to feel good. Why?

You're not feeling good, Matt? No, I am, I am feeling good really. No, I feel.

But I still feel better than you. I know I do. How do you know? You can't quantify that? you can't see in my brain?

I can I just feel like, fight, fight.

I think you are feeling better than me because you've got your collar open more than I have, and that's the sign of a happy person. I'm going to even go down a button.

What, what? yeah, porn just the other day.

Oh, you mean, took care of it, you like, assassinated it. I shaved my chest hair. Why?

Because I'm going to start doing porno. Oh right, because I found out that, you know, there's a strike going on right now. And you're not supposed to be doing any writing. And some of that porno is not. Guilt covered. That's the only thing you did to prepare for the porn you're about to shoot, yeah.

And then it turns out you need to, like, be able to function and stuff which I didn't know. Oh God. So I shaved my chest and I walked in there and I went, I'm ready to go. And they said, Well, can you kind of work yourself up into a state of excitement?

I went well, I could if it was 1988.

You did shave your chest? Yeah, I did why, I'm going to tell you why.

I shaved my chest for biking, that's right, biking, what? yeah?

Biking Did you shave any your legs too? I shaved my entire body, but you have arm hair, yeah.

I didn't touch that part, but you just said you shaved your entire body, so you went full popeye. To me, entire body means chest and then the whole stomach area. What's below that?

What do you mean? I call it my nether regions. No, I didn't do that. The icy Delta, yeah.

I did the full thatched roof. Yeah, look, we got to talk about some business here. This is the episode where we have QuestLove on.

Yes, we do have to talk about this. QuestLove Is it fair to say, a devotee of this podcast? I didn't know that, and that's quite humbling, I think.

He's one of those connoisseurs of, well, obviously, seems like one of a hyper cool person, absolutely. And he's always curating music playlists for people and telling people what to listen to. And then it turns out he's. I'll use the word geeky fan for our podcast, which was nice to hear, really nice to hear.

And he's a great guy, love talking to him, he geeks out so much so that he was aware of how long. Jeff Goldblum's second appearance on this show, his Hi, my name is friend.

Intro Yes was because most people say, hi, my name is, you know, blank, and I'll just throw in, Hi, my name is Tommy Tuberville.

He was a great interview.

And I feel, is that a person? Yes, he's the senator, he's the senator who's holding up the entire military appointments of our government. Just so that he can make some point about social justice.

Literally, it does sound like it, literally a tuba. Well, here comes Tommy Tuberville.

No, he doesn't, he's trying to make sure that no one can. You would care about this time. Women in the military, time well spent.

That's good, this is good. I'm sorry, I'd have to explain things to Sona, Yeah.

He doesn't want any social issues. I'm not getting at you. OK, yeah, oh, you're mad at me.

You brought him up talking about QuestLove. Do you want me to back up and not talk about Tommy? Tuberville? No, it's too late. No, we have to.

Isn't it? Also? Tuberville? Well, I thought it was, too, and then I listened to a podcast and they called him Tuberville. What podcast did you listen to? It's called mispronunciation of my name.

No, apparently I was convinced it was Tuberville, and then I've heard several things where they call him Tuberville. Now I'm part of this problem. Yeah, exactly, so you guys, you're really helping, by the way.

Anyway, very controversial, senator at the moment and irritating a lot of people. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is most people have a quick intro. Hi, my name is Harrison Ford and I feel shitty about being Conor O'Brien's friend. And then we move on.

QuestLove came on and was aware that the record is held by.

Jeff Goldblum's second appearance Jeff Goldblum's second appearance, where Jeff went on and on and on.

And it was that for a long time. And then QuestLove came in on a mission to defeat Jeff Goldblum's record. The question is, did he? No, wow, what?

And then he came in and he mastered the whole thing. Yeah, but I'm still shocked because, as you know, QuestLove really stretched it out. Yeah, to the point that I left, yeah.

And I did some welding on a 1966 Volkswagen beetle. You also recorded another podcast episode with a totally different guest. Yeah, and I made a margarita pizza from scratch Wow, and built the oven that I cooked it in.

And then came back in and QuestLove was still going. I got a great idea, what? Two podiums, two people, two intros, yes.

Same time Goldblum, QuestLove, Yes, and third one Tubberville.

And sorry, Tubberville, No, don't apologize to him, he can suck it exactly, he can suck my dick.

Oh, I wasn't expecting that. Oh, I'm sorry. Wow, we were just gone for three weeks and you have a cock.

And that comes up now.

No one has big dick energy like Conan O'Brien. You shaved. To be more aerodynamic on a bike, I'm making this all up. Oh, okay, it's that. And yeah, I wanted to be able to ride without a shirt and without pants and have no aerodynamic drag.

That sounds dangerous. Wait, so you have no pants on, meaning your little guy is flapping in the breeze. Well, first of all, not a little guy. Quite average to B, I get a solid b a-.

But isn't that going to cause some drag? I get a lot of compliments in the past from my girlfriends with glaucoma. Anyway, no, I cut a hole in the seat so it slides in there. Yeah, and then sometimes when I'm stopped at a light, I just sort of wiggle it around a little bit and it feels fantastic. What if you get aroused on the way?

Why? that's the whole point. You do a wheelie, yeah.

Let's get into this, you've got to check this out because I do love this gentleman and you also have to hear his intro. They already have, Oh, right?

I forgot how the podcast worked. You never knew how the podcast worked. I'll listen to it one day. I'm just not a fan of the host, I get it.

Anyway, I do love this guy. My guest today is a Grammy award-winning musician, record producer, and co-founder and drummer of the hip-hop group The Roots. Doesn't he also have an Oscar? Yeah, I think he does, I think he does.

Who's doing the research around here? What's mentioned is Grammy, but not his Oscar God. I'm glad I'm on the ball, I'm very excited he's here today.

Questlove welcome.

I go to New York occasionally, and when I'm in New York, we get whoever's available in New York. We've been wanting to talk to you for a long time. You were available and this was pitched through someone else. And then I hear, No, he really wants to do it with the whole gang.

And I thought, a mistake, no what, but b Fine, I'm fine with that.

I'm glad you're here. I think what he's saying is your excuse today, Conan, and we'll handle this, We'll take it from here, all right, I'll pipe down.

And instantly I was like, Oh man, me and Conan are going to get along famously, this is going to be awesome. And then I turned a corner, even though I've been on your show maybe three to four times.

Or maybe because maybe I'm sitting behind a drum set and I didn't take into account how tall you were. And plus that's when being on television was really a big deal, so I wasn't in my right mind. Now it's just like, OK, I'll show up.

But I saw you walking down the hallway and instantly I just started to shrink, like, Oh no, he's too tall to be my friend.

And people act like I've lied to them. So when I go through security checkpoints, people are like, Hey man, fuck you. I didn't know you were this tall. What did I do?

And there's a big difference between 6'3, 6'3, it's an incalculable difference.

And Charlie Brown and Charlie Brown.

Sunny, He has a name, Wow van Pelt and Sunny Wait.

Wait, how is his name Sunny?

Because I take my sugar cereals. Very sunny, the cuckoo bird. That's insane that you know that I don't know what to say.

I'm not proud, it's the same thing, it just lives there. Like Van Pelt, I was just thinking the same thing when you said, Lucy Van Pelt, I respect.

But knowing?

Oh, excuse me, I'm sorry, but you shouldn't know the name, do you know Captain Crunch's little sidekicks?

Maybe, and then Jim Backus did captain's voice, right, okay?

Wait, okay, am I ruining the show by rabbit-holing you guys?

We're going to come back with your diagnosis and then we're going to get you on the right medicine.

Which is why I ask you, Are these guys into microdosing at all or edibles?

No, my answer was, Yeah, I'm into it. Yeah, you're not into it, I'm square that way.

Yes, I burned myself out in my 30s. We talked about this on the way in today, yeah.

I like the way that I'm already manifesting my.

I want to be the Sandra Bernhardt to your letterman, so trust me, wait.

And also Am I alienating your demographic? Who cares? No, with all these old ass references? No, no.

But since you began, go ahead. Well, that's all I basically know.

Kellogg's was a seven day adventist guy, he had a wife, and I guess even they slept in separate sleeping quarters, right?

They adopted their children.

Oh God, am I going to get canceled after this appearance?

Yeah.

Take my job.

My guess is they didn't really make him do anything that a real intern would have to do.

Right, right.

Me, myself.

Like, I love working at 30 rock, Yep, well, one, I love working there and I love my job.

But I just love watching the machinery, how things work.

Absolutely.

I think any other musician would see it as like, whatever. Like you guys reached the pinnacle or mountaintop, like you made it to, you know, America's living room, or whatever. I'll say that at best, we as a unit, as a band, are at best when we're working out in the gym.

Now, before the Tonight show. I mean, the basic story, the roots, is that, you know, right out of high school, we started busking on street corners, like around 91, 92.

My dad wanted me to go to either Curtis Institute. If you've seen, she just got nominated for best Actress, Cate Blanchett and Tara.

Good choice, yeah, Curtis Institute's one of, like, the most hardest, difficult musicals.

And in my mind, I'm like, Well, wait a minute, I want to be the guy that owns the stadium, that acts play. I'm like, why are you dreaming so small? For me and not for myself? So that's a whole other story.

See, we could have been friends there or whatever.

You fancied them, you know why you fancied them, because it was 1882..

My best friend's target did not get back to him, and I saw a moment where I could use this opportunity to my advantage. His target went to the High School of Creative and Performing Arts, which was basically the public version of the Fame School. Yep, yep, the LaGuardia School. If you have younger listeners, high school musical, and so does he have younger listeners.

Anyway.

But, you know, I could play like adults since I was five. I get off stage and I walk backstage and this Black woman says, Oh my god, young man. That was awesome. That was great. And I was like, I see you're Susan from Sesame Street. She's like, Indeed, I am.

My husband was playing keyboards and I was like, and I threw a vest.

And there is another product placement. Here you go, there is a Hawaiian punch commercial, which you remember? Punchy is hopping down the block with a bunch of fruit and then he goes up to the unsuspecting tourist.

And he's like, Hey, how about a nice Hawaiian punch? He's like, Sure, and he just, you know, hits him. So I went to my mother and was like, Mom, say sure when I ask you a question.

Oh, no, and she's like, Huh? I said, Okay, so I'm saying, How do you say sure, okay?

Hey, how about a nice Hawaiian punch? My mom said, Sure, and let's just do the sitcom flip thing, we'll skip it.

Yep, and they didn't believe in babysitters, so thus I had to go to work with them. Even though my bedtime was like 8.30 as a kid, as a three, four, five-year-old, they would wake me up at midnight or at 12.30.

And I'd watch. Like the second performance on SNL in Philadelphia, Soul Train was not a 12-in-the-afternoon experience, it was a 1 a..m, depending on the cultural sensitivity of whoever the programming director was.

Put this on at 1 in the morning or 2 in the morning. So that's how Soul Train, to me, is a 1 a.m after SNL experience.

Her natural-born, curly hair, it wasn't curly. But I would just watch Soul Train and my brothers would come in and we're like, This is what's happening, man. Don Cornelius is cool.

He looks like the coolest guy in the world.

It was a hail Mary throw, but they fell for it. The plan was that I was going to find that girl for my best friend at our old school, so that she could be his date for the junior prom.

We're the prettiest girl in school. Another girl, totally unrelated, was talking about music, which instantly my ears were pricked, and she made a wrong prince reference. And I'm the human version of hashtag. Well, actually, oh no.

You remember on the Smurfs when Brainy would say, Well, actually, and then seconds later, they tossed him in the trash can. I was that guy. I was like, Well, actually. That was a b-side, a Japanese import b-side, which is longer than the album version.

I was at the studio and it was like, who? I said, me and my group, who's in your group? And literally the way that Tariq and I met. It's somewhere between a tale of two cities.

You know what?

You get in over your head, you say, my group, your group, yeah, yeah.

We're in the studio, we want to see you play.

And I was like, Oh, with him. So then I went to the next two periods of class, like in orchestra, and somewhere in orchestra class. I thought about it. I said, Nah, I got to warn him. Put like flight of the bumblebee in here.

And the lunchroom is on the eighth floor, I'm in the basement, so literally.

And then someone else walked through it.

And that is how the roots were born.

Let me tell you something.

My first gig was at Radio City. Like first day of school, Miles Davis is in my school, picking one of the kids to be his new keyboard player. Because one of his guys has a drug habit and has to go to rehab. So you'll, you'll fill in. Joey DeFrancisco at the age of 16. Like, that's just how it was.

So we graduated and now it's like, well, okay, I guess I got to live my dad's dream and audition for Juilliard, so I auditioned for the new school and for Juilliard. And around, like, 92. Tariq Just, you know, it was a free trip to New York, so he comes with me. We're on a train ride back home.

And this is somewhere out of either a gray Poupon commercial or that last scene in Dumb and Dumber. The world's most beautiful woman, it's always a beautiful woman behind this thing, and it's a slow motion walk.

Hey, be in the video, whatever. So they asked me to play drums in that video, so I milked those 1.9 seconds.

Wait, let me rephrase it. Tariq milked those 1.9 seconds, cause, literally, like after the video became like heavy rotation on MTV. We'd be ready to go out for whatever. And he'd just look at me, like, What are you doing? and I'm like, What?

He's like, Come on, man, put the shirt on. I was like, come on, dude.

I'd have to put on the hoodie, that dingy ass t-shirt, those Oshkosh bogosh thing and walk up and down South Street. We would do like nine rotations and, you know, wait and Tariq would take their numbers down and everything. And that's literally like our social, you know, the way your staff is holding their hearts right now. I feel like such a dweeb anyway.

Anyway, so it's a year later, and nothing is more painful than the slow, dim fade of. Like, you know, Al Bundy's always bragging about those like four touchdowns at Polkai. Like, I didn't want to become that guy. But suddenly I noticed, like, Oh, the magic's not working anymore, like, it's not working.

He moved to New York and he was, you know, playing buckets and whatnot, and Spike Lee saw him and put him in a Levi. So now he's the new drummer of the moment, like he's in the Mariah Carey video, and I'm a little jealous.

Like, Oh, damn.

So she's like, Are you the drummer and the spike Lee Levi's commercial? And I was like, No, I'm not.

And you said, Yes, I am.

And just like that commercial in Dumb and Dumber. She's like, Oh, okay. And she walks back and got off the next stop. And Tariq was just looked like, I felt the you asshole idiot.

He kept right, he kept riding the whole time. Call him up, people.

And next day we're we crashed at my parents crib living room. Next day, Soul trains on, the commercials on, and then that becomes like our our Doc Brown Flex Capacitor sitcom, sort of like you look at each other. And literally a commercial came on.

It's like, Well, why don't we do that? And literally an hour later, like, we're grabbing buckets and everything sneaking out and we went on South Street. If we didn't make $120, then it would have been a one-time only thing. But in like two hours, like, we're rich and our whole thing was like, 60 for you.

60. For me, this is date night money. You can buy a quarter pound of turkey, some bread, steal, some condiment packages and that's a date. You know, make your own sandwich. Yes, we we go to, like the park or whatever.

That line never worked for me. It's how'd you like to say it? How'd you like some lunch meat?

Me now at my age, excuse me there, young lady.

QuestLove has given me the following lists and I have all these items.

Told my friend about it the next week. And he's a bass player in my jazz class. And he's like, Well, you guys going to do it again? I was like, Yeah, he's like, Well, can I join you guys?

Sure, now he drives, I didn't drive. He drives with the station wagon, his dad's station wagon. He shows up and he has his upright base in the back. And I'm getting my buckets. He's like, Well, dude, I got the station wagon.

So get your real drums. And I was like, Oh man, my dad will kill me, I can't do that. He's like, Well, he's not home. I said, Yeah, you're right.

So snuck, you know, very stealth operation of of putting, loading my drums in the in the, in the station wagon. And that's literally how the roots were were were born.

In a great way you'll like.

Do you know this historical reference? It's all over the map, which I think is, I don't know, I just find it. I challenge our listeners to go back and listen to this again and plot it, and it's almost like there's, there's no connection, and also a thousand connections.

It's really cool.

So here's the deal, here's the deal about late night. Yeah, damn, I'm good.

Okay, so, because 92 was kind of the I given biblical references, but I mean, that's kind of hip hops biting of the apple. And they saw that they were naked, pretty much, Dr.

J released The Chronic, which was kind of the first time that a credible person of pedigree in hip hop did big numbers. Yep, I mean, you know, nothing against hammer or vanilla ice, or whoever like was selling by the millions. But it was sort of like, Okay, that's not what we listened to, you know, that sort of thing, or he's not that good.

Hey Questlove, we're sorry, yes, but Matt and I are quite certain that Ice Ice Baby was really the beginning of hip hop. I cannot believe, and I say that with no contractions.

I cannot believe that was true. Even Eduardo is horrified right now.

It's a thing, it's a legal thing. If you have two ices, you're the inventor of hip hop. It's like 007. He earned those kills.

So you say?

Like, back in 93, at a house party, so anyway, so it's like, because of that moment where hip hop realize, Oh, commerce we can make, and you know, every culture goes, this is not just hip hop. Where it's like, do you do art from your heart? Or do you got to survive? And again, I already told you about fight or flight and the needs to survive.

So, of course, everyone followed suit and there was just a whole giant rush to make it, and so as a result, that left the center. A weirdo hip hop train left the station, the the train that they lost Soul was on in a tribe called Quest and the rest of Development and dig about planets. They left the station.

We had to wait there at the platform for another five years. It had we stayed in America, we wouldn't have made it, so thus we had to. We called it pulling a Hendrix, so the way that we kind of pulled the Hendrix is is also an epic.

I noticed you didn't ask one question yet, so am I taking over this interview?

But let me just say to our listeners, just pulling a Hendrix, Jimmy Hendrix, it wasn't making it here. And uh, went to London in like 66 and, uh, teamed up with, uh, two white guys with funny haircuts, uh, and became Jimmy Hendrix in the experience. And there he blew up.

I was like, No, he's like, turn on. And literally. Kurt Loder is announcing that Kurt Cobain killed himself, and my manager of mine, he's like, Wait, there's no more Guns and Roses or Aerosmith. And now Nirvana, the three pillars that are financially holding that label up, right?

And he's like, we're going to get dropped from this label before it even starts. Because they didn't have a black department or a rap department. And so I was like, Okay, what do we got to do? what do we got to do to survive? So we did something that's almost akin to, If you remember you, you remember in, you remember in, Um, in Ghost, when, like, we'll be.

Um, there there is a scene from Ghost that nobody references.

They're making the sexy scene. No, no, no, no, no, the bank transaction.

So we did this for 18 years, I mean, and people will say like, Oh, you guys were the fish of hip hop, the grateful dead of hip hop. But it's like we were dependable and responsible, so our job was to stand by in the waiting room. And then it was good survival. But it really wasn't conducive for, like, having a steady relationship.

Yeah, there are kids in the factor now, and, you know, so we around, like 2009, it was sort of like, man, we wish like a Celine Dion situation would happen. That with a residency, a residency. And so we just got to the mountaintop of, like, making good money.

Like, we finally made it and it's like, do we just turn our back on this and try something unproven? And we did it. I will say that for us, that was what we needed to actually bond and be friends again. There's a moment.

I know I'm loquacious, give me a give me a safe word, like pineapple or something if I'm talking too much.

Like, I see you're turning maroon right now.

OK, that's how white I am.

I'm sorry, post Lasso Football Stadiums, right?

And you know, it's like 80,000 to 120,000 a night and every three to four songs, those guys get into sort of a football magic circle huddle. And by the fourth time they do this, I'm thinking like, Oh, they're going to call an audible and change up the set list. And then they go back to their instruments, and then I have the set list in my hand.

I'm like, wait, they didn't change anything, they didn't change the arrangement, so I'm waiting. Like days down the line, like, why do they keep having these little meetings? Every like five songs and nothing changes from what I know the show to be.

It's like muscle memory. And so I see Flea and catering and I'm like, Dude, what are you guys talking about? When you go into that huddle? and Flea's like, Yo, man, it's like, I don't know, man, we're just.

We're so full of gratitude, like we're just four guys that, you know, we met each other when we were 13. And you know, we're. We're in the stadium with 120,000 people, and we're just we're just showing gratitude to each other.

Like, guys, we really made it, so this is 2006. I'm not evolved yet as a human being. So I get on the tour bus and I'm like, Yo, it's just like, hippie shit. Like, Oh, we're so happy to be amongst, you know, like, I'm really just like being dismissive of it, like, Oh, yeah, that's what they're doing.

And my manager's like, Yeah, well, makes sense, like, Yeah, I can see that, because they they like each other, that's cool. That's like, Yeah, you know? So I go back and start playing plays.

Wait, what do you mean? They actually like each other, and he's like, I see that they actually. I mean, it's not like a goodfellas thing, like, what do you mean?

I'm funny, but it was sort of like, Well, what do you mean? They actually like each other? like, why did you say actually? He's like, you see the chemistry, like they actually, they fuck with each other?

I can see that. And I was like, as opposed to what he's like, come on man. And I was like, as opposed to what he's like, come on man.

Don't make me spell it out, that's right.

Y'all do it off memory, you know you? You're the one to name the tour buses. Gryffindor and Slytherin like, you got your own separate tour buses. Y'all don't spend the night at each other's houses.

Y'all ain't friends, y'all just business partners. He's like, it's cool, like, keep the money that you didn't know, I didn't know.

Well, I thought, Look, we been. By that point, we had known like we met in eighty seven, and it's now 2007..

And I'll say, at least for the first six years, like we were perpetual, we were 13 year olds, we were 13 year olds. In adults bodies doing. We could do silly things and not feel like, you know, like we're going to lose our street cred because we're doing silly shit. And that helped.

That really helped. There's a moment where, when Jimmy officially pitched us, we're doing like some spring fling at UCLA or something. And I mean, I'm a quasi spokesperson for the group. And so I had to do an interview, like with the college paper or something. So I went in the trailer, did. My interview came back 20 minutes later and we're on UCLA's football field. And Jimmy, this is going to be my worst reference, and I'm in my head like, please don't say this reference.

Uh, you go first, I'm going to say, Um, wait, I'll give you a hint.

Okay.

Meanwhile, I will go to the White House with, like, uh, mustard stains on on my on my tux. And I looked at my manager and I was just like, Ah, we're not, we're not getting rid of this guy anytime soon, right? And my manager was just like, we're stuck with him. Like, literally, Jimmy would not let up until we we committed to him and he just took, like, just did it.

And so what I'll say is now the amount of, uh, being in the gym on that show has actually made us friends again. Yeah, and so now I feel like, even though this is our 30th year as a band, I really feel like it's like our seventh year.

We're probably the only people in history that got sent to HR on our first day on on the gig, all right, so if your listeners are, everyone knows what HR is. I know what your demographics are.

So they said to me, I don't even know if I should be saying this. So I guess the thing that they wanted to stop was, um, I guess. Weinberg was world famous for making interns, um, do his shopping for him.

The way she insulated herself from some of the problems they had on sex in the city.

The uh, the uh, uh. Well, you were there, Blay, you want to weigh in on anything, cause you know me, like Cynthia Nixon, I was insulated. Uh um, you know, good point. I think we put that to bed. Uh well, I'm glad that you love you, Max.

It's infrastructure and we need infrastructure, but you don't know anything about it. Insulated like Cynthia Nixon on sex in the city.

You have no idea.

And um, great, I have a driveway that I need paved.

Let's pretend it's my choice that I'm insulated, anyway, go ahead.

We have a different agenda. Let me know, I can't help you here.

Yeah, do you ever throw something in there? Just like the theme from Gilligan's Island, just something that's going to freak him out.

And yeah, it. It started with the Obamas and then I added the Carters. I wanted to add people that just had kids. So in my mind, when when Blue Ivy was born, I was like, Okay, I'm going to. I want you to play this like in her crib or in her nursery, whatever. And then cause, if you can reach a kid before six, you can really determine their creativity.

And that doesn't mean, like, Hey, baby, quiet Storm music, it's not that. But I do an evening set. So it started with them and then it was 10 and then it was the 50. So I think, right about now I am.

There's the list of people you might know, some of the names vanilla ice on there.

I'm surprised to see that name, but I'm glad you're working on the guy.

3 seconds I was like, Wait, how did he get on?