“Matt Damon (and Tracey!) LIVE in Madison”

kid, was somebody's here. How about you? Just, you just had a red ball. I need to be slapped to be woken up. I'm gonna slap you, though, As long as I want you, I want.

I'm gonna slap you as hard as I want you to. Just let me. okay, just not much. Okay. All right.

Okay. Wait, I think we're on right now. Oh, We should. yeah, okay, No, we got to do the thing. No flash photography.

Don't use your fucking cell phone. Oh, oh, here we go. That was a block. No flash photography. Don't use your fucking cell phone.

Don't record. Have a good time, Say hi to your neighbor.

Hi Madison, you nice people.

Very nice.

Beautiful, beautiful.

And Coming here today kind of feels a little bit like a home game. Yeah. Yeah, right, you know, Like a badger game or like a badger game. That was cheap. That was, that was a cheap applause.

That was very cheap. Sorry about that. are like some people are like I don't give a shit about the fucking bad. Yeah, Or like a bowling game. I bowl a lot.

Maybe I bowl anyway. I We want to say thank you to you guys for wanting to see us. We wanted to see you, so this is awesome that this worked out and.

And a shout out to the Edgewater Hotel, who housed us for four hours today. Yeah, It's right on a frozen lake, and us soft little LA freaks were like well, that lakes frozen. I see people walking. I should we go walk on it. So we walked on it and we walked on it.

You can walk on a frozen lake. Yeah, It was very cold right there at the Edgewater, well, they look. as a Canadian, I get it, okay, Not to pull rank too much. But did you ever play? you ever play hockey on a frozen lake?

Sure, really? Yeah, of course, how many again? I'm Canadian. No, but I mean not every Canadian plays hockey or on a frozen lake. Yeah, no, I have done it, but it's a fair question.

and we did get out there. you wanted to go. We were up at the at the Edgewater Hotel. I don't know, And they were super nice. we were there for like two hours, But we, we, Jason, saw the ice and he saw people walking across.

he's like we gotta get out there. Yeah, What? and Sean was like, what are they doing? And they, neither of them, had ever been out on a frozen lake before, which you guys know is just what you do. Yeah, I hey, let's sit down.

Yeah, let's sit down. Let's sit down. We're gonna get that. Yeah, so Wait, let's switch seats. Oh.

So we have different. I've been sitting in that seat for a couple of days, yeah, it's nice to be over here. I want to see these people too. All right.

so I, You know, I like to start out like with a personal story. that happens, you know. on on the John's got material. No, I don't have material. dig in everyone.

No.

Cocktail.

No, I, you know, on the tour, by the way, we are living together on the tour. We're living in one suite. like, yeah, turns out he's messy. Yeah, he's not. You don't sleep.

Well, I don't sleep. Well, you like the snacks. I Mean, I like wait a minute. What? Yeah, you like this.

I do like the snacks. Oh, you know, I do get a lot of shit from you about, you know, eating sprouts and and no gluten stuff. I mean now that you see, I eat Terribly you can. well, well, here's what it is. And we don't want to bore you too much, but we're gonna do it anyway, We, we.

what we realize is, as you know, Sean, and as you guys know, Jason gives me a lot of shit about eating and what I eat. But have you noticed all the time that he gives me shit and then he ends up eating? Yeah, all the time, but it was classic today, right before we ate, We switched. we switched a little bit and Jason ordered a burger and and will order to salad, Which is so rare and then the salad. but the salad came, and it was the fried chicken, fried chicken salad, Yeah, but anyway, so, but wait, why still a salad?

Low hanging fruit is still fruit. Wait, and then, and then Jason did offer me at a burger and he offered me his. you did at one point legitimately say I'll give you the rest of my waffle fries for your salad. It is true. I did offer you my gluten bun, too.

God, all right. so. but on the tour, these guys, one day I came back and into the room and these guys have had had had massages, and So I was like, oh, I was bummed. and so Jason was like, oh, well, You can still get one, willy-nilly trying to get me to figure it out to how to get one. I'm like, you know what, forget it.

So yesterday in Chicago I got him a son. I got a facial because I couldn't get him side. God. We sound so good. It's the worst.

Thank you. Yeah, whatever you did. But but so I got this little thing today and this Russian woman is like doing like massaging my shoulders after she put I don't Know if some fucking stuff on my face, and she's massage. She goes out of nowhere. I can't do a Russian accent, but she's like, oh you, strong muscles you work out and I was like, oh god, I don't know what this is.

It's already making me feel uncomfortable. But I but I love funny massage stories. I have two really quick one. the first time I would wait when you were keying yourself up for your own. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Oh, this one can't absolutely.

This one is better. it got better. the night gets better. One is one time this friend of mine offered, you know, he's like this guy does sports massages. I'm like, I'll try that.

so I'm, I'm lying a thing. I never had a sports massage before and I have the little thing over me. You know, I'm totally naked underneath and this guy starts like pulling one leg over this way and then one leg over this way, and my Penis and balls are over here, over here, and not nothing. none of it was like relaxing or comfortable or anything. and I thought, you know, The sheet was supposed to be the invisible barrier between us, but it was everywhere.

But anyway, my philosophy, Wow, my philosophy.

My philosophy for for massages is this if they say hey, do you want a male or female? I always ask for a female, and this is why, if it being gay newsflash, So if it's a, if it's a straight guy giving massage and something happens, I don't want him to freak out. if it's a gay guy and something happens, I don't want to be like a and if it's out, so if it's a woman, I'm good to go. Oh.

Go ahead, go ahead, cancel yourself.

We're gonna do it in Madison, Wisconsin, what a night.

Have have you ever had an uncomfortable situation on the massage table? No, I don't think so. Well, you know what prompted me to tell this story. you would remember a Nice, a nice, clean. No, would have done it.

No, I had masseuse one time get up on the table and and she got up on me a little bit. Yeah, and you know, were you in this? were you in the country?

In this country, yeah,

What do you consider Latvia part of this country? no, So she. her technique was to get up on you. She got up. Yes, she, She got up on my back, which I think is, yeah, irregular now that I think about it, she did.

Did she have a saddle with her?

When she, when she took her clothes off that see, that was a signal. That's it. No, but that was it. That's the only time you had an uncomfortable massage. I don't think so.

That there was. there was My friend. no, no.

Things. things change a little bit, but they don't go. Things didn't get to where they get to your honor permission to treat the witnesses hostile. Wait a minute. Wait, what about that story you told me today?

But that actually did happen to a friend of yours, which is all my friend. Yeah, my my, a friend of mine's wife, goes to this pretty reputable massage place in Los Angeles and We can't tell this story. No, but they don't want to hear about this kind of stuff, that's like that's.

She, But we'll tell shit stories on the podcast. How about this? I'll tell a cleaner. I'll tell a cleaner a massage story that I was actually in. I I actually said oh.

You're gonna get both now? No, so she was in this nice massage place and she's enjoying a nice massage and she's face down and she's got herself a Male Russian massage therapist. Why are they always Russian? Uh, cuz, they're strong man. Okay, um, and She, she receives a thumb.

Wow, wow, everything stops. He stops, cuz he's wondering if she, if he's going to receive a Solid green instead of the flashing green. She stops because she's wondering if it's a mistake.

Then she turns her. she'd say what's going on He. he stops the thumb, sure, and then finishes a massage. She's so freaked out. She goes to pay.

at the end. She tips him. She, She's not sure what she should be. He'd already tipped her. Hey, oh.

She go, She goes, She goes home. She goes home. She tells her husband, right because she's, she's, she's freaked out, rightfully, So he's freaked out. He picks up the phone. He calls him at the massage place.

He and he explains the situation. He says, you know, my wife is in there. She's got a massage from a massage therapist there and she was thumb and And She and the person says, you know, I'm sorry, so that's impossible. Who was a massage therapist? and he says, I don't, honey, who was a massage?

it was Yuri and he and the guy says it says it was Yuri and the. The person at the desk says well, that's odd, because Yuri's our most requested massage there.

And and they both paused that the husband and the person and the person of the massage was like oh, Got it. We will speak to Yuri. So that would. that was that story? So, and let me, let me get digits after the show of where that place.

So, you know, we're here because one of the main reasons we're here is because my sister lives in Wisconsin.

Yeah, yeah, and as you know Tracy, and You know just one quick Tracy story, We were she came to pick me up at college after my fourth year, and we've got. she came to get you pick me up into Some pickup truck or something, and we got high before we got into the truck and we got on What drugs?

That's a good one. and so so we got stone, we smoked pot before we got in and we loaded the truck in with just like willy-nilly, like just to Close and like my dress, my dress or whatever. And so we drive it And we're driving up 55 from ISU, Illinois State University, And I'm driving up and and we're both like listening to Madonna and we're both like in our own world, Like we're actually Madonna. I'm like just like a prayer There, a voice who takes there, and like we're in the video or something in our own worlds. We're not really talking.

all of a sudden. I open my eyes and in the rearview mirror. I just see some pants.

And Then a shirt, and then she's like driving. She's like, holy shit. There's some more pants and some socks and like a suit, and then like part, and then we're like Maybe we should pull over. we pulled over, and I'm talking like two miles of clothes Behind us, right, and and we just what do we do? Should we go back and get it?

No, we didn't give it. We just drove the fuck home Because you did not zip your bags. Yeah, adequately, you know, I was 18 and I'm sorry, I was 20. I don't know what. Are you high now?

Yeah, but you know why? finish any of these stories? What can I have when I can have Tracy tell them herself? She read?

Don't. they look alike, isn't cute? I Think more of our family or anything. Well, growing up. We had just us five kids.

Yeah, chaos, Just us five kids. That's why you need to explain things to me. Yeah. Oh, do you see? do you help the explanations on the podcast?

Do you think they help you? Yes, we say Tracy. Can you explain? Yes. Yeah, you guys have any questions for my sister?

How about this? How about used to be a police officer? I'm obsessed with crazy police stories. Would you have a crazy one? Were you used to be a police officer?

Yeah?

Worked for is in the audio. Oh, yeah, Phil. Hi, Phil, Um, yeah, so I was, I was a cop. we weren't like. we lived in Glen Ellyn, And we're like.

the worst thing that would happen is something you always say that well, but you weren't there. No, like, okay, Um, I was caught for 15 years and in Glen Ellyn, where we grew up, Did you ever have a case? Did you ever work on a case of a weed-smoking couple who lost a bunch of clothes?

Did you guys ever solve that case?

Did? what was it? what was the most dangerous thing you're ever involved with as a cop? I mean there's, you know, burglaries and Domestic domestic. Did you see any dead bodies?

Yeah, a ton you did. Yeah, No way, I think it's not used to tell me one like you. just then that was became normal to you. Yeah, that doesn't bother me. Okay, great, Really, like what was the?

what was the oldest dead body? Like, how long had it been dead? Oh, Not the oldest person. Yeah, the old elderly lady that you know, The male kept piling up. and then, you know, you go and some, a neighbor, called and it was like a like a week.

I'm maggots. Oh, no, What about? did you ever see anybody get, get dead?

That's the way you say. it will Die, even die. He made longer.

You ever see anybody like die in, like in front of you? no, no, that must be scary. Yeah, and what is your last name? I'm kidding.

So, were you a motorcycle cop or did you drive a car? I drove, I drove a car and then I became a detective and then, yeah, Well, dude, she could have been a motorcycle cop. Don't look at me. We didn't have motorcycle cops. Well, you don't have motorcycle cops.

Yeah. Oh, cuz of weather, right?

It's absurd, but no, I think that that's a pretty good question if you, if you are in a place that has a lot of winter.

You can't have. you can't have a motorcycle cop because you got snow and ice for you. dude, I figured You see the way I have a process that I figure stuff out. What is it like? do people like?

do people bug you because you're referenced on the podcast? do people stop you? They don't know who you are. What is it? Like?

Kind of some emails like how do they figure out? It's you. I don't know. Really? Yeah, I don't know, because I have a different last name right and I live in Monaco.

Right. I gotta change that now. Yeah, It, yeah, I don't know how they figure it out, but sometimes some people do it's fine. I don't know. Fucking weird.

Is it right? All these people know who you are, because we talk about you all the time. good shot, right? It's weird. Yeah, here's the thing.

I, I am a single mom and I'm at home and I literally it makes my Monday. I think it makes everybody's Monday morning.

I want one question. I have one question. I wish she's not going anywhere. I gotta go.

Ask you this Your brother, Sean. That's me. Yeah, just zip it for one second is our good friend. We love him very, very much and He's an incredibly talented guy. How, yeah, how.

When Sean moved to California and And then he had all this incredible success. Did you say yes, I knew it, And did you feel an incredible sense of pride for all the amazing things that your brother's done?

Was it wait till they figure out the mistake they've made? No, I think he's. he's a great brother, I mean he's a very. we're very close. we've always been the closest, I think.

in that night. We were the two youngest, and so we kind of stuck together. I made him do like the time lessons and cheerleading. I mean, yeah, She did. you want to do a cheer together?

No, oh my god, wait a second. No, Wait a sec. What I didn't hear. you guys said you used to be on cheer squad together as well. I would be like a cheerleader and I make him do the practice with me Right now, but really quick, okay, I'm gonna do it.

Here we go.

Okay,

ready. this is what. this is what she taught me ready five, six, seven, eight. we've got power.

That was awesome, that was awesome.

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Let's move on, shall we? We're gonna go on a little trip, Jason. Okay, here we go. You guys are in for a special treat. This is exciting.

You know how you want. I had to write it down me and Jason write our intros down. You know how you wonder sometimes how certain people in our business become successful and then they sustain that success, right? Sure, you need talent and brains and ability to capture an audience, But I found the secret ingredient to becoming a superstar is being a nice person. Huh?

Right. This person is one of those people. He's one of the nicest, kindest people I've ever had the pleasure of being friends with. he is the first person to introduce me to a Segway. the scooter not how to connect thoughts.

he's. he's played an attorney, a Pickpocket, a talking shrimp and a spy for the FBI. He also happened to appear with me on one of the funniest episodes of Will and Grace. Unlike how he's treated by Jimmy Kimmel. We have plenty of time for him tonight.

It's Matt Damon.

Guys. I mean if I, if I was ever gonna do this show would have to be in Wisconsin, right?

Perfect example of nicest guy. That's what I said. I know you're probably wondering who canceled, and thank you for replacing at the last minute.

So We used to you know, it's so funny. We do you remember this? I bring this up every time I see you. we used to play softball about 75 years ago with the Olsen twins. Yes, Yeah, it was yeah, when they were little kids.

That's right. Yeah, and what was the league? What? No, it wasn't a league. No, it was like meet at this, fucking at a park.

Yeah, and Santa Monica, just meet at this part. The Olsen twins will be there. You can play softball with them. Yeah, It's not like a flyer on a telephone. No, our friend Steve Schoenbaum organized these softball things and, and I remember like being and playing with you, and we were hanging out.

And and you go, because it's right at the peak of Will and Grace, and you go, how can you go out anywhere? I'm like, how can you go out anywhere? And you're like, yeah, but you're Sean Hayes. I'm like you're fucking Matt Damon. It was crazy.

I was, can't? you can cruise around with a fair amount of anonymity. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, But you, you live in New York, yeah, Mm-hmm. Yeah, most the time. and now do you? are you like?

you can just go to the store and do whatever, right? Yeah, Yeah, we were talking about the store a lot. I Do actually well in New York. Yeah, and when I lived in LA I probably never went to the store, but in in New York, kind of nobody gives a shit. right now, Nobody cares at all.

Nobody cares. No, there are some people. we're talking about this the other day. there's some people. would you not agree that some people could sort of carry themselves like a Celebrity and then other people do not?

I don't know what it is, whether what they wear or how they act, or what? I don't know, but you, you are. you are. you've always been to me a Really famous actor, as opposed to some, you know, you know big, flashy celebrity, But you have all the fame of a celebrity, but it, you're Right, you're not a tick tocker, right, you know, like. well, I'm trying.

are you trying? I mean, I mean, are you like my kids? I'm not. You got your mind? No, Johnny is, I am, are you?

Yeah, I do things like that stupid thing. Or I do like a chair. No, I that I have to get on tick-tock and follow you, But my kids won't let me get on tick-tock because they're like dad. You're lame. You can't go.

Yeah, yeah, we were going through that about the dad lame thing, and Jason was worried. I accused him of looking like cool dad tonight. Yeah, I got a terrible outfit on today. No, no, you look great. No, yeah, you know, what'd you call me?

You called me a rock and roll dad, rock and roll.

With this ridiculous hair, I need to get kind of like Chrissy Hein. I Have that going too, because I'm, I have to go. I've got this thing I have to do in LA tomorrow for the next movie. It's like one of the hair and makeup tests. You have an excuse.

they tell you not to cut your hair or shave for a month, right? But you don't have to wear this ridiculous denim outfit. I don't, I don't. we're at the end of the tour. I'm down to all loose ends, you know, short end.

I Want to do it because I like that topic about you being an actor, not just like a personality. because it's true, and you went To Harvard, but you did. you only went for one year and you go for four years, or what? I went for five years.

But I got, I got. yeah, I got credit for three of them. good, You know what would happen with. I'd get to like wherever I was in a semester. if I got a job, I'd take the acting job and then you know, And then go away and then come back and take a leave of absence and go away and come back.

and There was one semester. I mean I was three weeks away, and and they I said, can I just finish, I'm just about done, I just have to take my finals. and they said you can do it if you take your finals at the exact moment They're offered in Cambridge. and I'm like, well, I can't shut a movie down for three hours, four different times, Like I'm number nine on the call sheet. Yeah, Back then.

Yeah, I wasn't I just like. right was it was it? was it hard? What it like?

The school humor, um, no, but I I just from what I've what, what I've been told, what's Harvard? hard. But this is why I asked, because I have heard that people say you'd be surprised. College in general is not as difficult as a high level high school program, like if you take a AP classes or whatever. I don't have a high school diploma.

Just bear with me That that they're like. the general ed in college is not as difficult as it can be in high school because it's voluntary school And they're not really grinding you, you're. you're trying to your discipline. You're disciplined.

Yeah, it's so fun watching his brain work and how, what he, how he thinks about stuff. it wasn't difficult I.

Mean it just. it depends. for me, it was always if I liked the class. It wasn't difficult, but it's like kind of like, you know, If you, if you have the job you love, you never really are working right. people go.

Well, you work, so it's such long hours and you go. No, I mean, I'm, but aren't those first two years? You have to take general ed. You have to take the, There's a. it's the second two years where you get to say well, now I want to be.

you know This person they had, they had core requirements, right? So you had to. no matter what you were studying, they wanted to make sure you took a lot of different classes. This will all be on the syllabus, So you guys, you'll be able to see for yourself.

I Mean. obviously it was hard. I didn't finish, so Did not finish, did not graduate. No, no, No, I'm I if I, if I were to ever, I'm still on a leave of absence, guys. Okay, don't this ain't over yet?

Okay, don't count me out. I would be a senior if I went back. You're so close. You want to go back? No, I'll go with you.

All right, maybe we go back and like, do this and kind of like, just or something, and then they just give us diplomas. Yeah, we get a degree in hosting. I got it. You know, have you ever done a commencement speech? I did the commencement speech at MIT.

Yeah, they don't ask me for that. Yeah, I, you could, and they and they're supposed to give you. you know, Ben, I know he did one at Brown, and Ben got a diploma from Brown Tracy. That's Ben Affleck. Yeah.

But the the great thing about that was that John Krasinski went to Brown and is very proud of that and Studied and worked really hard for four years and got a diploma. and Ben called him and said I was in Rhode Island for 45 minutes and I got. I Love that. and when I gave the commencement thing at MIT, they don't give you even a really like an honorary diploma. They're like, it's MIT, like no.

So No school, no school in this city gives me a diploma, so it's fine. Hang on what. bear with me for more saying. if you give a commencement speech, you get a diploma. Yes, an honorary doctorate.

I got one of those. Do you have to have a high school diploma before? By the way, asking for a friend, asking, I'm just asking for a friend. Yeah. Yeah.

No, no, I know they. they, if they've, if you've got something they want to hear, so badly that they're. you're considered an Expert and they and you and you get an honorary. For God's sake. All right.

So listen what you mentioned, Ben. I don't. I don't think I know this answer. When did you meet Ben Affleck? when and how I was, because we always we met you too.

I was 10 and he was 8 and.

And we lived two blocks from each other and And I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, we grew up together, and that's why it's so weird, because We didn't have anybody in our families and show business, we didn't have any. Boston isn't a show business town, you know, it was.

No, not really, you know. and and we and we just had this weird obsession, and we were, we were, probably grew up 200 yards away from each other and Met each other and and, just like out on the street, like playing. Yeah, we used to play Little League together, We used to play, you know, he was a little younger than me, But when he got to high school, I was a junior and he was a freshman, and that's when we really started Hanging. and then we, you know, we got agents. He had an agent.

He had been on an after-school special, He had been on a. he was like the big star.

Was he like a big shot in high school when he had? When he arrived at the high school, it was like, and I had to set him straight Because I, I was the lord of that theater department And and I and he likes to tell this story, Apparently I went up to him like first day and like, pulled him up and was like, hey, You know, it's different here in the theater.

Yeah, you're not gonna. you're not gonna get by on your looks.

We were both like 5-2. Yeah,

what were some of the theater things you I'd like. do you still love theater? do you want to do theater? do do theater. I actually, yeah, I did.

I did a ton of theater in high school, in college, and We had, and we had, an extraordinary, amazing, amazing, amazing teacher Who and it was, I mean, a lot of just from that school, me and Ben and Casey, his brother, and I mean There's just a ton of people who came out of that that program Sean Hader, who's just got nominated for an Oscar for COTA. She, she's the director of COTA. She was, she went through that program like they're there. a lot of, really, because we just had this unbelievable teacher. and But I was gonna say, because when I went to, don't leave it, don't keep it there.

Keep talking. when, When I went to see you on Broadway and I had done, I had done a play in London 20 years ago and with Casey Affleck, actually, and and, and I went to, You know, ten years later or whatever, which is probably ten years ago. When was it? When? yeah, 2010, 2010.

It was just promises, promises, promises, promises, and so We were applause that it was, and, Obviously, he was amazing. It was. no, it was. it was awesome, And we, we see it, and we were totally into. it was deep into the run, though, And we went backstage, and I've never seen a more.

It made me never want to do theater. I looked at you and you were just were like, I'm, you were you. I was like, hey, it's going on. Hi, Scott, he just had his hand around. He's just holding you up.

You were like eight shows a week. who would do this? Yeah, You were so tired. It was awful. Can you still have like a month and a half to go?

But I, you were so nice to come a and be to see the show and the beat you wore, those I sent you a long time ago as you as a birthday gift Shirt, t-shirts with my picture on it. Oh, that's right. And you wore it to the show. That's right.

Because I did it because you know those shirts that you wash so many times. they're like they're better than it. So that was my Sean Hayes shirt. I Didn't say something. What did you write?

There was some great. It was really funny. No, I can't believe, I can't remember, Or it's 600 times. but no, no, you were so sweet, and, and I too get better as more and the more you wash me, I guess, would you what about? Have you ever done musicals?

No, yes. Yes, really. Of course. What hang on. Oh my god, in high school, Pippin.

I was Pippin. Yeah, I totally. Everybody has its time. show me a reason and I'll show you a rhyme. Oh my god, I literally I sing that to my daughter to drive it.

I do I with it, with the choreography we did. it was like It was like rivers belong where they can ramble.

That's my kryptonite. I can't sing in the shower. even I mean I would kill. I can't sing either. Good, that's not really good.

Jason just admitted today that he hasn't danced since when. what happened? I haven't. yeah, I still. I had a fourth grade dance And my I made my sister teach me a dance step all night to like midnight.

And it was, it was, it was just, it was this one.

And I just so I got to the dance with with my girlfriend Amy Keating and And I did that for about four or five songs and then she stopped in the middle of the sixth song and said is that The only step, you know, and she left that she left the dance floor and I've never danced since now. the the. the follow-up to that Is I. I ran into a friend of mine who? ten years later, 15 years later, We were in the class together with Amy and I kept them.

we were talking about her and he said he said, you know, I heard she got a brain tumor and I said, oh my god, is she? Okay, he says, I don't know, but I hear she may have not made it and I was like, oh god. No, no cut to.

She. I get an email from Amy Keating about five years later saying hey, just wanted to reach out. I hear you think I'm dead.

And she said she said so, I've made a documentary that says Jason Bateman thinks I'm dead And I'd like to interview you for the end of the documentary. Would you come? would you come meet me at the auditorium where I left the stage at our elementary school? So I remember. so I can interview you.

and I was like, yeah, And I sat down for an interview and I think it's all. I think it's on YouTube. this this documentary. Yeah, Oh, my god, Jason, baby thinks I'm dead by a bikini switch. your story.

How have we never heard about this? I've not told that story. No.

I've got. I've got many stories. All right, ready? Here we go. Oh god, I want to.

I want to start at the beginning. No, I wanted to. I know you have probably had. first of all, I have to state the obvious, Which is you're one of the biggest fucking stars on the planet, right? It's true.

I don't know that's not important to you, And I know I know the art and the craft of it is is more important than any of that, But it's just so cool. It's just so cool, right, and we're all such fans, And I love you, and I've been such a fan as well. And I mean, how hard did we laugh. he did this episode of Will and Grace where, my god, he played. he played this guy.

That was the funniest. I mean, by the way, I have a quick story. You don't know this story. I. he played this guy who was actually pretended to be gay, so he could sing in the gay man's chorus, Because they were, they were going to Europe and he wanted the free trip to Europe, right?

So funny, though, did you sing on the show? Yeah, he did. we all in the in the chorus, we all sang, but the whole idea was that Sean, he see, He get, he figures it out. Yeah, I'm like yours. You're straight.

And so he tries to in me, right?

But the show was like ten years deep, like, and I had never done a sitcom, and I couldn't believe Like so fun, because they, they were so locked in and it and the writers were so amazing, Like that table, like you'd sit around, the first draft comes in, we read it, It's hysterical and then, like, there's like ten of you and you guys just start going, You make it better and better and better, and like, it was just so fun. And I couldn't believe how, by that point, because you'd put all the work in for ten years, how little you guys worked. I was like, oh, yeah, It was criminal. Well, James Burroughs, who's one of the greatest directors of all time? He directed every episode of Cheers, every episode of Will and Grace.

He directed friends, taxi, Taxi, Big Bang Theory, two-and-a-half men, all these things. But anyway, he's what got me like this, right? So now, and I got spoiled at such a young age. So now, when I'm on a set, I'm like what's taking so long? you know, but you're so sweet, because I remember, you don't know this, I think, or maybe you do, but During that episode you were so kind and worried like you didn't.

Nobody was attending to your hair or something, and you had a baseball hat on all day. So you took it off and I think you were afraid to like ask for help. So in the episode you can see the line where his hat is. By the way, there it is today. I have the same.

If I'm left to my own devices, I'm just completely Fine to build on that real quick. the the kindness that you have is so authentic and sincere and organic, and We are in such a permissive business for bad behavior. And then, if you're super famous, they let you get away with even worse stuff. What is it that keeps you from? behaving badly, Beyond beyond just your own natural instinct?

was your mom or your dad? Real good at like? saying things are starting to really take off for you, son, Keep your shit together. or did you have like a Ben that would like beat the crap out of you? Like you did with him and Matt?

Let me just say before you answer, that Jason wants to know why aren't you giving in to your desire to be shitty to people? Because he finds it really hard to bury it. How do you bury it? Is it similar to how he buries it? Go ahead?

Yeah, I don't know. I I Never had an impulse to do that. I don't know why. I think I just it was lucky. I think I had a great great parents, a great big brother and a great foundation, and I, honestly, you guys all know, lost it At some point.

I think the experience of getting famous is weird, Right, and and that I always reflected back on that after I kind of got through that first two years, like whoa. That was crazy. And you're working with people and you're seeing people that are more famous than you coming up the way they're acting, which for the most part is not great. and How did you think, like, you know, well, I guess I gotta be a kid. I've been really really lucky.

Oh good. I have not witnessed a lot of bad behavior. I really fact I had. I started out, I was working with, I Had, like Denzel and Robin Williams and Tom Hanks and these people who were like, yeah, So, and nobody was bigger than them, right, and they were so classy and professional and kind and good and like it Wasn't. first examples.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean it just really set the tone. I always say, if you can't find the asshole on the set. It's probably you're the asshole.

Yeah.

So You mentioned your big brother. how many, how many siblings you have? just one, just one, Three years older. Are you guys still really tight? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, what sort of look? without getting specific? What line of work is he? he's an artist? No way.

Yeah. Well, like painter, painter and a sculptor. Wow, Yeah, can I buy some of his stuff, or what? He certainly could. Yeah, We'll talk afterwards.

Okay, great. How funny. I don't and I don't know this either. So, were your parents in the arts or no? No, my mom's a professor of early childhood education, Yeah, and.

And my dad was When I was a kid, he was a stockbroker. He taught school, He did all kinds of jobs until he finally built a company and and was became really successful and retired early. But it was interesting because my mom did what she loved and didn't get paid anything, and my dad Only did what he did just to make sure that we were provided for, and he never enjoyed his work. And so it was a great lesson, I think, for my brother and me to go, like, you know, because both of them were saying from two different sides of the of the coin, like follow what you love to do. and Yeah, that's awesome.

And so it's probably great to have a brother who's an artist, even though he's not an actor or a director or writer or whatever, but because he's an artist, he can. you guys can talk a similar language and relate as Creative people. Yeah, I love, I mean, I really trust his judgment and his opinions, And I mean you guys know, like when you're working, I mean, it's like you, you have a little core group of people that you show your stuff to and you're like Am I crazy or is this working or am I crazy? Is Lucy straight with you? Will she tell you when you suck?

She? yes, Lucy, and she's and she's been actually for me, really the best bellwether, Like Lucy is tell Tracy who Lucy is, is Tracy, Lucy's my wife.

By the way, it's being trade like. I didn't know I was standing next to Tracy and the wings trying to hide. I didn't know it was Tracy. And then I'm sitting there. I'm like what they say, you know, And I'm just.

I just cuz there's, you know, Ten people back there, and I figured they're all working on the show right. and suddenly you announced and she goes blasting out. I'm like, oh shit. That was Tracy.

Well, I was totally starstruck, but I better. yeah, that's a thing. Okay, so wait, I want to talk about. you know, I know you're so sick of talking about typed questions.

Harder than you worked on that episode of.

It. It's so true, and I made so much money.

Sean. Sean is. Sean is so organized, one of the things we were finding on his tour. Oh my god, Sean is. it's insane.

So the other night we got back to, we were in New York. We got back after the show. we all had dinner, like in our room. It's us and a bunch of people and our friends, and so everybody's got food. They're like eight or ten of us.

the food arrives. We start eating. Sean's finished in I don't know Legitimately 90 seconds, maybe two minutes, and everybody else is just starting their food and he stands up and he starts, he clears his plate, And then he starts clearing all the loose ends, and then he starts clearing plate like you're like, no, no, I'm not done yet. What right, it's just killing. It's just cleaning.

Now. This is a hotel room. There are people who are gonna come and clean it anyway, but no, he's cleaning it. That's. my wife does this exact same thing.

It drives me crazy. It's bonkers. I'm like, why are you bussing the table? I'm eating my food Likes order. he doesn't like chaos.

He likes things done tight in, In the proper way, we're. we're being driven here in a tin, a tour bus. Yeah, yeah, and he's got, though. He's got ways open. Yeah, to make sure the driver is on the right route, Not a bit.

And so we keep going every 30 seconds. We go. how much longer Sean? He's like after three minutes.

I'm starting a new app. It's not called ways. It's called gaze. It's much faster.

The more handsome font.

We'll be right back.

And now back to the show.

all right, so now I know you're sick of talking about Good Will Hunting and just just just bear with me here, because I, you know, I, because I have every single one of your movies like I have. it's crazy, but Talk about you know. what? I love about this story, about how it happened, is because so many people ask How do I start? where do I like?

what did you do? How did you get your start? and you just fucking, did it like you? just you're like, well, I want to work, I want to work. So maybe I should just write my own thing, right?

Yeah, but. and then won an Oscar for that. Yeah, I mean it worked it. I mean it worked out. Yeah.

For you to tell it is because there are Nice first at that, worked out. There's so many people who want and, you know, So many young people starting out that love this story that need to hear this. I mean, I think we were a desperate, We were unemployed, Struggling actors, and it just became clear that we were gonna have to wait forever Until we got a shot, and I remember it was that movie primal fear. I don't know if, Yeah.

Ed Norton and Richard Gere. Edward, you know, brilliant actor, you know my age. Edward got the part and and what, and was great. I think he got nominated for an Oscar for the movie. So that script came along and Ben and I looked at it and we were like, that's the best role.

I'm like, why isn't a movie star taking this role? This is an unbelievable role. Like, why isn't like? at the time it was like Ethan Hawke or, and Robert Sean letter, all the guys from dead poets. I'm like, why aren't those guys jumping all over this?

This thing is amazing. And I bought ice, paid for a dialect coach, because, remember, he switches Money. I'm gonna take it to get a dialect. But this was like with money I didn't have because I was like, this. is it you know what I mean?

you prepare for the audition, to prepare for the audition, and He switches from Southern to normal, or exactly exactly. He's got. it's like a Jekyll and Hyde thing Southern to normal.

Oh God,

That Place. okay, that plays well in Wisconsin. Okay, but It's not Southern. Yeah, what's that? Wisconsin?

I said it plays well because you just called them normal. No, no, they're.

there they're. They're all really nervous for you right now. Yeah, I think I got canceled a minute five just poured cement over it. And yeah, everybody's nervous at every moment. You guys, I'm terrified for you, buddy.

But he does. he does. he go into southern, just got cut in half. you can't. You can only go to half the country now.

So, where do you guys shoot, Ozark?

Other Atlanta.

So he has a southern accent.

So you had a switch between Ozark and normal, yeah.

Yeah, But the idea was that there are two distinctive voices that come from this guy, yes, both perfectly good voices. Yes, Yes, two excellent distinctive voices. because a, he's playing and having a mental health problem. He's saying he's schizophrenic, and then there's a. it's a whole bit, but it's a, but it's an actor's dream, because he's really.

it's a really showcasing part. right, whoever got it? and Edward won the part. but Ben and I realized then we were like, if it, You know What are the odds of another movie coming down where you know? And then and then it's like it gets kicked down and there's 10,000 of us like rabid hyenas.

I'm going for it and like what are the chances? and a another one's gonna come in the next five years and Be that, even if it does, we'll be the ones to get it. We'll get called back. We'll get close. remember?

Oh, you don't remember audition. Yes. I do. You were a fucking star when you were like eight and I was watching you like that guy. I could do that.

But, uh, but yeah, We so that kind of started us thinking about Writing, about going like well, let's write our own part. I want something done. You got to do yourself. Yeah, yeah, you were dying to be an actor, not a writer, right? Right.

We were writing just literally to give her you win an Oscar for writing. I know I've never gotten any award of any kind for acting.

I got. the Empire magazine gave me an award in like.

2007 and I and I went and picked up the award. Yeah Guys, like in high school, we had the Massachusetts High School Drama Festival and they would give awards. I was in every one of those plays killing. it never got an award. I was like, oh, man.

Is it true that you have not received an award for acting? Yeah, are you kidding? I've been nominated a shit ton of times. I'll bet. yeah.

Yeah, good lord. Yeah, I mean, I got a good, You got a globe. You got a go. Well, that's something. Yeah, that's not.

Well for the, for the Martian. right for the Martian, because it, because they gave it to me for a. by the way, Thank you. They gave it to me in the category of musical or comedy.

By the way, it's one of my favorite movies of all.

You saw Good Will Hunting. I want to talk to Matt about a couple movies. I can I do this one thing and then I'll hand it off to you. Okay, tell me your name again, So listen, so George Clooney was on a podcast, okay, and He just was describing this amazing moment when you took oceans 12 to the Cannes Film Festival. Do you know the story?

Oh, yeah. and so you guys rode on this yacht for the press and Brad Pitt says he wants to climb to the top and take his Shirt off and jump off the top, and George is like, oh my god, Brad Pitt takes his shirt off, and it's like something Michelangelo carved. his body was just perfect. and then he says he looks over at Matt and Matt goes And you take off your shirt and it's something like the Pillsbury Doughboy car Right. Wow, well, you're probably bulking up for a part.

I clearly, clearly I was Something we've all seen. Ripley. We've all seen you. You know how to get it down. I could, I can.

I can get it down if I have to. I mean, knows that shots fired by Clooney. I mean, listen, Clooney was so scared of getting his picture taken next to Brad with his shirt off that he didn't even jump off the boat. So and later, and I, and he told me later he's like I knew you were gonna get hit by the because the paparazzi took pictures, and it's like, you know, it's Brad and the way.

And And we were in the middle of the Mediterranean out of this boat. I couldn't see it. Those lenses are so Ridiculous, and I don't even know how they knew we were on that boat and and but George somehow knew he's got like a spider Sense or something. Yeah, just like, nah, mark. I wasn't gonna risk it, but but so you do, and we were.

you do know how to get it down and get in shape, because the fucking Bourne movies.

But then at John John.

JK, you guys, that's John Krasinski. So.

Bravo, and I think I geeked out on you at that time. the Bourne movies. to me. I have seen all. Well the four that you've done.

I can't even count how many times Bourne ultimatum is the second one, the third one, The third one. Bourne was supremacy, Supremacy. Bourne supremacy, to me, is the most, one of the most perfect films. It's got everything. It's got drama, It's got action.

You're so fucking good And you know. people say well, you know, you're doing an action movie, doing what you do. You have its intensity from the moment you start. it's just like super intense and you're in it, and you're just like kicking dudes asses and and strangling them and shit and All the while acting like. I'm not sure how I know how to do this.

You're a weapon and you don't even know it right? what? yeah, Exactly. What was that experience like? because that, to me, is it, and would you ever go through that training process again?

Yeah, though, on the last one. I remember I was 45, on the last one, and It hurt. yeah, I got people would go like come by, age would come with. hey, man, how did you get? and I go, not worth it.

What Liam Neeson is doing. every single film he's doing is more intense than the next, and he's not 45. No, no, he's, he's great. I mean, I don't know. I mean some, some people.

When you were younger, even when you're in your 30s, You're doing supremacy and you're doing all this crazy shit, and supremacy was directed by a green grass, Paul green grass. He's an incredible director. That's why they all work. I mean, it's always the director. What was what was that?

Yeah, but but but you're giving him a lot of credit, but you deserve so much. What was that process like for you? were you beat up every day? Like, you know, no, I mean they make it. You know, look, they're there.

They're the Tom Cruises of the world who do their stunts like literally hang off a plane and do that. Yeah, you know, I remember, I taught I had dinner with him once and I and it was after he did the one where he ran around the Building, you know, we had an Abu, Dhabi, you know, I was, and in Dubai, And he's 1,500 feet up on a cable running around the building. Yeah, and and I go. Can you tell me how that happened? and he goes?

Yeah, I mean, he's a really intense guy, you know. He's like, yeah, I'll tell you how it happened. He's like. so I go. All right.

All right, I mean I'm in. I'm like, okay, Yeah, and he goes. so I go to the sea, goes. I've been thinking about this shot for 15 years. Wow, really?

He goes. Yeah, he goes, I knew it, Because he goes and I. so I go to the safety guy. I go, here's what I'm gonna do, and I lay it all out. Safety guy goes, you can't do that, It's too dangerous.

You can't do that. So I get a new safety guy.

That's the beginning, the beginning of his story, and I just go, stop, like. That's where we're different, right? Like when the safety guy says, no, I'm like, oh, safety guy says it's not a good idea. Do you have any long-lasting injuries from all of that? No, no, no.

No. No. No, it's all. I mean a little Nicks and cuts and stuff from those fight scenes, but but nothing, you know, they're pulling their punches. In fact, on the first movie, the Bourne identity, I get I fight this guy in an apartment.

Nicky node was his name and Nicky was in Paris, in Paris. Yeah. No, I know.

Why are you telling me stuff? I know, Matt, sorry, sorry, Nicky was a professional, had been a professional kickboxer and he was an actor and a stuntman. And so I went to him before we shot and I said, look, I'm really sorry, I'm, I am, you know, I've been boxing and doing all the stuff to get ready, But I go, I I'm gonna accidentally hit you. I mean, I, I just know I am and I'm really sorry in advance, and for every time I hit you, I'll give you a bottle of champagne. Yeah, and Nicky goes bad.

This is good. Yeah. So by the end of the day, I owed the dude a case of champagne. But he had been used to like fighting professionally. He was like it did not hurt at all.

It was like he was so thirsty. He was leaning into it. He was like great. He was like. anytime you want to do a fight scene, and I'm in, you know.

I want to know. you know, another favorite movie that I love, that you're in is the departed and Which I love. yes, it's. oh, it's crazy how many movies you've been in at your age and None of them suck. Yeah, like it's just some of them.

It's got to be bad to suck. some of them were not as great as the others, because the others are like Elevens, but the amount of work you've done and the quality that you've maintained is just stunning. You really deserve to really a part of it.

I Want to ask. I want to ask about the departed, because I I did a movie with Jack Nicholson as well called the bucket list. sure and sure, and and the first not as much applause and but, but the, The first day of the bucket list. we were in this like Bentley or something. They took the windshield out to put the camera in and I didn't know.

it was my first day and Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson are sitting in the back, and I'm sitting in the passenger seat in the front and And in your mind, you know you're like. should I break the ice with a joke, should I not? I don't know these guys yet, I'm not. you know. It's only the first day of shooting, so idiot, All right, I'm gonna go for it.

Maybe someday, when you make it big, you could sit in the front.

And then the last, the last one was we would. now we're like a month or two in the thing And I'm like well, now they're my pals right, and so I'm sitting in, you know, little video village. Tracy video village is a thing where you can watch playback, and it's like off of the. how fun Is it that he can look at Tracy well?

Let's play a game. Let's go around the room and name the movie. You're embarrassed to say you've never seen. Embarrassed to say you've never seen. I go.

I'll go first. I've never seen The Godfather. That was the end of the game.

Because next half hour everybody.

And I'm like is somebody else gonna go like nobody else? So I know where you're going with this. the party, but departed is. yes, It is certainly one of those movies that you don't. really You're not allowed to say you're a fan of movies.

if you have not seen that movie. Yeah, my, Such a great movie, god. Yeah, what was what was that experience like? how did you come up about that part? I?

Was, we were making oceans 12.. Yeah, this is true, and Brad Pitt, you know, is a pretty prolific producer, and I don't know if you guys know, but he produced that movie and He did not. yeah. He just came up. It's the weirdest thing, because every but actors dream is to work with Marty Scorsese.

right. and, and We were, we were sitting there. See, that's the guy directed the movie.

Among others, and.

and We were literally. this is the worst. This is like how many names am I gonna drop that I have? You're allowed. we were at George Clooney's house, sure, in Italy.

We figured you knew him, and and and Lucy, and I was before we were married, so this is 2004, I think, and because we got married in 05 and and And we were sitting there at the pool, sure, Brad Pitt.

Sounds like a very nice weekend. Look, we were working okay. sure, it was hard, rehearsing really hard, and Brad kind of put his towel down and sat down on the chair and and next to us and goes Hey, Matty, You want to a movie with Martin Scorsese? No way, I swear to God, that's what he said, and I I was like yeah, And he was like no, I'm actually serious, Wow, I'm like what are you actually talking about? drop the script on your towel right, then?

Yeah, and he goes, and then the script.

Yeah, page one.

Did you? Did you at any point say well, hang on a second, Brad? Why are you playing this part? He felt like he had aged out of it. really, because the guy goes through the police Academy, and he just in a, He's just unbelievably generous, and he goes no.

I think it'd be better if you did it. He was Leo's gonna play this one role. How old is Brad Pitt? Brad is, I don't know. I think I'm 51 and I think I think 58.

yeah, something like it looks incredible. first of all, guys, he looks awful. Yeah, I'm terrible. I Love, I love me. some Brad Pitt.

I saw. I know, I really do. I think it's a nice guy, So cool, such a nice guy. He's so handsome, and I know, and it's hard to not look at him. It's so hard not to look at him.

So we were like right before the pandemic. we were at. we were in Los Angeles. We're at Bon Iver concert.

And and, So, and I know those I like, I like, Wisconsin, so I know those guys Justin Vernon, Sean Carrey and all those guys, and so. so anyway, we were hanging out before the show and just chit-chatting and and, and, and then Brad came in and To sit down, and I and I, he sits down and I go. we're talking for a second. I said, you know Brad. I was thinking, you know what movie has aged.

really well. He said what I said Benjamin Button.

That's a great. it's a great joke, right?

It's a great joke. and he paused for a second, and then he started laughing like and I was like I'm not ripping on the movie. I mean it's a perfectly constructed joke And he was great about it. Yeah, he's somebody who I it was because we started working together 20 years ago on oceans And it was just mystifying. like how, because he's been the most famous guy, You know, and even Jerry Weintraub, our producers, that you know, I was with Elvis.

Every generation has one guy. Brad's the guy you know, and, and it's true, Just the, the effect that he has on people, but I've never seen An effect like that, but with so like, he doesn't do anything to court it, He doesn't do anything to. he's the most regular guys from Missouri. He just couldn't be. He couldn't be more normal, Jason.

yeah, he's really normal. He fights, he pushes down the the instinct to be shitty to people. he actually said He got. he elicited for me at that same thing after the show he said hey, man, I just want to say I we've done this little show on Netflix called flaked. and he goes hey, It's a little in the end, but he goes.

he goes. man. I just want to say I just I loved your show so much, man. I watched the whole thing, I was so shocked, and I was like really goes. Oh, I just loved and he gave me a big hug, and I said thanks, man.

And then we go to the door to go out. I said well, I'll see you guys later. I walk outside and I slid down the wall. I went.

Who do you think in front of my girlfriend? She's like this is great. This is who do you think he thought you were?

Are you mistaken for?

that, oh my god, That was fast, I know.

Wow, wow.

You guys.

I was gonna say I, we said everything. I've said everything there, and I would repeat it a thousand times. I love that man, Kind like all, talking about kindness and everything, and It is kind of a. by the way, I could have asked him a thousand questions about the Martian, because I love the Martian. Yeah, But, but I just love him, and he's so talented, so talented and so normal, and so Kind and generous, and always just warm to people.

and yeah, I do think it's interesting, though. You know when he did the talented Mr.. Ripley, which is about a gay. What's that? who me here?

It comes. no? We're not doing a buy. no, no, not yet.

Usually, this is where Sean starts wrapping up and his brain breaks, trying to work his way to a buy, And you can feel it, no.

Talented mr. Ripley. I Was gonna say in the town that mr. Ripley plays a gay con man, and that's about the time you started hanging out with me. but And I was sitting here.

I was trying to think of a bias. think about he's so where he's so nice. He, like you, put your hand in the cage that he's in. he'd never take a bite out of it. I'm like no.

Terrible. it's terrible, Too sweaty. we are thinking about getting rid of the body.

It's. it's so cringy. She's like yeah.

So listen, if you want to pick on anybody after this show. these three said they want us to get rid of it. Well, I'm pitching, but what about if we just change it to some? I'm pitching these guys that we change it to a see ya right, and then we can find a C in, But we can't Wait. wait, He can't.

he keeps pitching the see ya. well, Like it's Italian. I know, but let's vote on it right now, so by.

And or or see ya, I I didn't pitch it very well. It's 1-1.

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