#2104 - Chris Williamson
2024-02-16 03:05:21
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Black rifle? Black rifle, yeah. What's up Chris? What's up baby? How are you?
Good to see you, man.
So how long have you been in Texas now?
Two years. Wow.
Do you feel like this is where you live, or do you like everything?
This feels like home. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
I went back home for Christmas in the UK, and it's so strange to go back to a place that you know so well, you're super familiar with, but you're kind of different and everything's changed, but everything's the same and you fall back into old patterns. You remember that tree that you used to walk past on your morning walk, and all of, it's very disquieting, but it's fun. It's nice.
The oddest thing for me is the contrast in the amount of freedom you have for things that you would never think were important. Like these little nicotine things, in California you can't buy this because it's flavored. In California, you can put a tent in front of people's houses and fucking cook meth and no one says anything. No one does anything. You could commit violent crime and you get arrested and released with no bail, they never find you again.
The laws are so ridiculous, but you are not allowed to have flavored nicotine. Flavored nicotine is dangerous, Chris.
They're trying to ban flavored vapes in the UK very aggressively, super aggressively. It's like, that's the big deal. That being said, I think it's like some non-insignificant percentage of school children are using vapes. It's very addictive. There's a no vapes sign in schools, like that wasn't something that was already self-evident.
Well, cigarettes were a big deal. when I was in high school. You know, a lot of kids smoked cigarettes. It was a cool kid's thing to do.
What's the smoking age in America?
I think it's 18.. 18?. Legally, yeah. Legally? Yeah.
It's 18.. But when I was a kid, people got cigarettes. Someone got you cigarettes. I don't know. When I was young, I remember before I turned 18, they changed the legal drinking age.
Because the legal drinking age, I believe, used to be 18.. And then they bumped it up to 21.. I was like, damn it.
Dude, have you ever seen the video of when DUIs came in in the 1980s and they're interviewing people in cars? Yeah. That is one of my favorite videos of all time. Please, Jamie, let me watch that video again.
Yeah. The lady's like, we're going to bring in communism.
Don't know what the world's coming to you.
And she's got a kid.
She's got a baby in the passenger seat.
No seatbelt. Oh, my God. And even if you did have a seatbelt, there's no airbags. Those things are death traps.
It's one of my favorite videos. There's this weird... It's something I've noticed since being in America. Your guys' relationship with drink driving is a little bit more lax than it is in the UK.
If you have any alcohol in your system at all, they'll arrest you. If you get pulled over and they said, have you had anything to drink? And you say, yes, I've had one drink. You're getting arrested.
I fucking love this video. Drinking and driving here is viewed by some as downright undemocratic.
It's kind of getting common, as one fellow can't put in a hard day's work, put in 11, 12 hours a day, and then getting your truck in the least rain, one or two beers. They're making it law that you can't drink when you want to. You have to wear a seatbelt when you're driving. Yeah, she's wearing a seatbelt. It looks like the baby is more protected than I thought it was.
It had that thing in front of it, that little cushion in front of it. So it seemed like she was a little bit more...
The funniest thing about that is, their issue is, it's not with not being allowed to drink? then drive. Theirs is one. worse. It's drink and drive.
At the same time. You mean I can't drink, and... Yeah, exactly.
Constantly.
Dude, I love that video.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, you definitely shouldn't drink and drive. That's true. But also, you don't really want people telling you what you can and can't do. And once they start doing it with anything, Bill, you don't bring in communism. I see it's cartoonish.
It's very cartoonish when they're saying that. It's very ridiculous. But kind of, they have a point. This is the only point. If you let someone tell you what you can't do, they're going to expand that power of telling you what you can't do.
Yeah. Always. One of the problems is, that puts...
Sobriety was somehow not fitting with the American way. What?
Measuring sobriety. Okay, hold on a second. During the 1950s, the American public and the judicial system were still erring on the side of the drunk driver. Oddly enough, some people were concerned with the mechanization of measuring sobriety was somehow not fitting with the American way. Kind of isn't.
It? kind of isn't. But also, you shouldn't drink and drive. Both things are true. We should teach people that you should never fucking do that.
I went to high school with a kid. And he was a good guy. I knew him from the time I was 14.. And then, when, I guess, a senior in high school, he was drunk and he crashed his car and killed his friend. And I remember running into him on the street.
We were both walking. And I walked by him, and he just had his head down. And I wasn't good friends with him, but I was friends with him. I always said hi to him. I said, hi to him.
I said, hey, man, how you doing? He's like, meh. He was done. He was done. His life was over, man.
He wasn't, he wasn't, you know, a regular kid anymore. He was a kid who killed his friend in a drunk driving accident. It was a different human, like his life. He was this one guy, he was a good, normal guy, fun guy. People liked him.
He was a friendly guy. And then, all of a sudden, a pariah. All of a sudden, everyone knows what you did. All of a sudden, what you did, you can't believe you did. This horrible, horrible, horrible thing.
And you did it when you were so young. I'm a kid. He was 16, 17,. whatever he was. He didn't know what he was doing.
He had no idea. Nobody, no, you're so stupid when you're that young. Your brain's not formed yet, and you can't treat them like they're adults. You just can't. They're not adults.
You know, you're talking about a 16-year-old kid, a 15-year-old kid, like, fuck. When they're doing things, they don't even know what's real. I mean, and it's all completely dependent upon how they were raised. Like, you could get really lucky and have solid parents, and really have, like, a good understanding of how to behave in the world. Or you could get fucked, and you got some dad who beats the shit out of you, and he's always on meth, and your mother's a fucking liar, and she steals money, and she sells people stuff.
You know, that could be your reality, too, and to expect a person like that to behave exactly the way you do with your nice life is crazy. It's crazy, and it's one of the weirder things that we do. Instead of looking at the origins of, what are the origins of horrible behavior? It's all terrible childhoods. It's almost all terrible childhoods.
Instead of looking at that, all we look at is a crime. It's very strange. It's a weird thing. It's like to know, logically, that you just have to take a few extra steps, and you say, well, what's the root of this problem, and how do we address that? How do we make it better?
We have so much money for other things. We don't have any money for that? That seems like one of the most fundamental problems any country would face, is the amount of people that grow up, that become violent criminals, because they were fucked from the time they were young. They had no shot at life. Their whole childhood was just violence and chaos.
That's not an insignificant number of people in this country, and yet any foreign conflict has to be addressed with the utmost urgency. When the things that are paramount to our daily existence right here, what our tax dollars pay for right here, are just completely ignored. Completely ignored. Never discussed. They'll talk to you about climate change.
Climate change. Let me tell you something. If you live in the South Side of Chicago, and you get shot, climate change doesn't mean jack shit to you, okay? We should address what the fuck is going on right now, not climate change.
Do you know what the ideas of luxury beliefs are? You heard of this?
No.
It's been repopularized by my friend, Rob Henderson. So luxury beliefs are ideas held by the upper classes that confer status on them, but often cause costs for the lower class. So the seminal example of this is defund the police. I walked past a house in Austin, not far from where I live, that has a defund, the police flag in the garden out front, and a private security sticker in the front window.
It's so stupid. It's such a virtue. Do you know, Will Storr?
Of course. He's been on my show. I went for breakfast with him yesterday.
He's great. He's fantastic. Of course you don't. Will Storr, who wrote that book, The Status Game, was explaining all this and what people are doing, what they're actually doing.
He's outstanding. He's so good.
He relates it to so many behavior patterns in life, which is like, oh my God, this all makes sense.
He's a legend of storytelling. He's one of the best writers in the UK. There's this really interesting example of... My friend Mary Harrington talks about how the death of chivalry has caused an increase in domestic violence.
So it's very interesting.
So this is a good example of this luxury beliefs thing. So yes, during the 1960s and 70s, if you were an upper class lady and the guys that you were dating were from households that had two parents that had taught them how you're supposed to treat people and they weren't mistreated and all the rest, they grew up like a well-balanced person. To them, it might seem a little bit patronizing for the guy to hold the door for you, or to pull the chair out, or to make sure that you get home okay, because you live an existence in which the danger of that not happening, not going appropriately, isn't that great. Now, what wasn't understood by a lot of the upper class feminists that were talking about this derogation of chivalry that they wanted was that that doesn't necessarily work for the working class or the underclass woman who is dating a man whose father beat him, or stepfather beat him, or didn't have a father, or was homeless or addicted to drugs or in.
violent crime.
And she thinks it's a direct line, a single spectrum from you should hold the door open for women to. you shouldn't beat your wife. And I think that it's true. Women should be seen as something that requires additional protection, that are precious and should be respected. If you derogate the stuff up here, sure, maybe it means that you liberate some of the working, the upper class women to be able to go and do whatever they want.
But what does this cause downstream, when you don't have those guardrails in place for the men that the lower class women are dating?
Yeah, well, just all men, period. And it should be in it's, here's the thing, that this is how it's looked upon in the martial arts world. If I know that I can fuck you up, and I fuck you up, I'm probably a bad person. It's never good that a guy who is like some trained killer goes after some regular guy, picks a fight with him and fucks him up. It's never thought of as good.
It's always negative, like almost entirely negative, like the entire fan base will recognize that terrible behavior.
So if you're a man, and you have someone who is your wife, and she's smaller than you, and female, you have the craziest advantage physically. It's the most awful tyranny physically, if violence is involved. If you decide that you're going to start swinging and teaching people lessons, and then lying to police about how someone got hurt, and, oh, she fell down the stairs. And if you grow up seeing that, that's even maybe more fucked up, because that's your model, and that's probably what their model was when they were growing up. But as men, we have to look at that as the weakest of most disgusting behaviors, including beating up on people that are weak.
Well, that's the reason for the male monkey dance, as it's called. The reason for that is that it's rivalry between two potentially matched males, and we don't know who's going to win. That's the reason for the conflict. If there's a huge disparity, what's the point for the conflict? You already know who's going to win, right?
That's why beating up a 70-year-old guy or a 10-year-old boy isn't a big deal. But if you're a 21-year-old dude, that's about this height, this is exactly why you have weight classes, right? Yeah. It's to create this degree of intrigue and fairness in the rivalry.
100%. 100%. Yeah. If a heavyweight beat up on a bantamweight, everyone would be furious. But that's what a lot of men are and a lot of women are.
It's crazy. If that happened in the male martial arts world, people would be furious.
It's just fucking... It's horrible. It's weird that it's always been a part of cinema. There's always been scenes where James Cagney smacks a girl in the face. And there was one...
God, I wish I could remember the movie. It was so crazy. But it was a 1950s movie, and the dad was spanking the wife, spanking her, had her over his knee. And the young girl was saying that that's how he shows mommy that he loves her.
God, you remember that movie, Jamie? I know we played it. It was insane. It was like this insane scene from a movie where you're like, what?
What the fuck am I watching?
But it's a time capsule into this evolving understanding of how human beings interact with each other. That's what it is. And it's a time capsule from less than 100 years ago.
What was that super famous... Shirley Temple? Yes.
Yes, it's Shirley Temple. That's what it is. Thanks, mama.
You're darn tootin', I did. That means you love her.
That's what I've been trying to tell her.
Oh, my God.
Dude. You're darn tootin'. You're darn tootin'.
Darn tootin', I am.
The guy's got someone's daughter over his knee, and he's spanking her into submission. Spanking her. That'll teach her. Holding her and spanking her. That means you love her, Shirley Temple says.
Shirley Temple is like the propagandist. She was like a young propagandist.
You can't tell if that's actually her. I'm trying to type it in. It's not.
It's not her?
It's her, so it might be someone else.
How many of them were there? How many of them young, famous girl actors were there? How many of them came out? great? Zero?
It's a mixed bag. Britney Spears is a work in progress.
I do not think children should be developing in front of the world. I think that's an insane amount of pressure. I think becoming famous in front of the world is an insane amount of pressure. Becoming a child as you're growing up, you're in front of the world, that's not manageable. No one's designed like that.
You're going to blow the hardware.
I had this idea about, we always hear the problems of child stars, Macaulay Culkin, Britney Spears, too much fame, too young. I don't disagree that thinking about, oh my God, this person's basically never known the world without adoration and attention and focus and scrutiny and all that stuff. There's a really interesting question about what happens if you're a, let's say, for example, Canadian psychologist who's been working away in the dusty annals of some university for a while and out of nowhere, you get thrust into the limelight. Then this bold MMA commentator plucks you out of obscurity and now you're one of the most talked about people on the planet. The interesting thing here is, as the child, yes, you didn't know what the world was like before.
I understand that can be disquieting, but what about when you had a sense of self? What about when you thought you knew who you were and your place in the world and your place in the status hierarchy, as Will would say?
What about that?
Then you just get ripped from your moorings and you're just out in space and the ISS is going past you and you're...
You're certainly going to make some mistakes. There's no way around it. You've never managed those waters before. If you just get in a raft for the first time and you're going down white waters to navigate, you're probably going to fall in. You're probably not good at this.
If the acceleration is quick as well. Yeah.
If you're on a kayak and you're hitting rocks, you're probably going to fall in. You don't know what the fuck you're doing, but once you figure out what you're doing, then you can achieve some level of balance. But for him, I think a lot of it was exacerbated by the benzodiazepine thing. So he was taking anti-anxiety medication. He didn't understand when it was prescribed to him, how addictive it was and what the consequences were of getting off of it.
And he talks about it a lot. And I think he was sick for over a year.
I'm pretty sure that you... There's a number of psychiatrists that are hesitant about prescribing that for more than a couple of days. And Jordan was on it for months and months and months.
It seems like even for a couple of days, you're just kissing death. I just want to kiss you to death.
Have you seen the Instagram account, Mugshorties?
No. Oh, my God.
This is one of the greatest things on the internet. I can't believe I get to teach you about Mugshorties. Come on, J-Mo, let's do this.
So it's images, mugshots of girls that have been taken in for questioning. It'll say in the top, in the description, what they've been charged for. Look at the comment below.
She's driving me while intoxicated.
Your Honor, we're under her influence.
Her eyes are intoxicating.
Your Honor, I think you've been drinking. Keep going.
Oh my God, it's amazing. They're very funny.
There's my Valentine. Oh, so they're all funny comments. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's great.
A bunch of thirsty dudes that are just like, I'll...
Yeah, but they seem funny.
Consensual.
It seems to be funny, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun.
What is it called? Mugshot... Shotties? Shotties. S-H-A-W-T-Y-S.
Not shorties, but shotties. O-W-Y, possession of marijuana and possession of paraphernalia. It was my weed, officer. There's another one. It was like possession of cocaine, and someone replied and said, it was medicinal.
My face ID doesn't want to believe that it's me with this headphone on. It's odd. I would think that that would be a really good place to test jokes. As a comic, with mugshots, it's a really fun exercise just to try to come up with funny.
What can I come up with? Yeah, you've got the way that they look, and you've got a short description about the caption.
You know who would excel at that is Tony Hinchcliffe. Tony Hinchcliffe would excel at that.
Mr. Roast?
He's the best at that. There's no one better. It's a matter of finding something funny about some horrible aspect of what just happened.
Jimmy Carr's, pretty good.
Yes. Yes. He's very good at it. Yeah. The two of them could duke it out.
It'd be a lot of fun. I think they might have done a roast battle.
That's right. They have.
Wow. That would be an unstoppable object and an immovable force.
Tony comes up with them. They're so fast. You can't believe they're not scripted. His brain just, oh. It's like that 24-7..
In the green room, he's always got puns for everything.
His mind just works in a really weird joke writer way.
Mark Norman's the same, right? He just can't not do it.
Cannot do it. Very similar. Mark's, even more extreme.
Yeah. It's unrelenting with him. Fucking hell.
Mark can't. If he gets panicky, if we're talking about something weird, he goes, I think they're going to think it's boring. His attention span is like, it's so short, I don't think he ever watches documentaries. He's always going.
I think I texted him a stat. about 77% of 18 to 24-year-olds in the U.S. are ineligible to join the military because of being overweight or mental or drug problems, and he just replied with meal team six.
That's him.
24-7.. That's just how his brain works. He's so good at it. He's so good at it. It's a marvel of personality.
When we do protect our parks, he's like a special. ... If you were going to make a really good stew, it's not just meat. You want carrots in there, you want potatoes, you want spices. He's a critical spice.
He's a big carrot.
He's something that's very important to that recipe being delicious.
Fucking phenomenal, dude.
He's such a good guy, too.
There's this idea about, ... In Blackadder, Rowan Atkinson, this famous British comedy, he was saying,
you know your bits, don't you? One of the actors says to him, and he says, this is different. It's spontaneous and it's called wit. I just always stuck in my mind that there's a difference between having prepared and well constructed stuff in advance and then being able to, ... No matter what it is, whether it's insights, whether it's debate, whether it's argumentation, whether it's analysis, all of those things.
The ability for someone to just turn it on like that.
The verbal sparring aspect of it. Some people don't like that, and then there's some comics that aren't really good at that. They're not good at dealing with audience members or anything like that. They're not good at answering questions, but they're good at long takes on things where they sit alone in contemplation and go over some ironic aspect of a topic, and then they write out really good material about it. It's still super valid.
There's no one that's better than the other, but there's different personalities that get attracted to the idea of constructing a stand-up comedy routine, and for some personalities, they're not like a conflict personality or a, yeah, well, you're a, this. They're not that guy or that girl. There's someone who gets some subject, bothers them, whatever it is, climate change, whatever it is, and they just sit on it, and they're like, what? And then they'll be alone, they'll be in front of the computer, they'll get a notebook out, they just sit on it for fucking days sometimes, bounce it around, back and forth, twist it around, start it from this way, start it from the back, back it up. Go from the conclusion first, and then explain your conclusion in a hilarious way.
See if it works better that way. And you'll do that, and then that type of comic, that mindset, can create great bits. They're great comics, but they just don't like to do the audience thing. But that's okay too. It's like, you can't ask someone to change their personality, but Tony is like, he's a razor-tongued man.
If you talk shit to Tony, he's gonna fuck you up.
Dancing with death.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and he's not physically imposing whatsoever, so it makes it even more brutal when he comes after you.
The same with Michael Malice. Yes, exactly. Michael once told me, he said, I couldn't get away with half of the shit that I say if I wasn't five-foot-seven.
Yeah, it helps. It certainly helps. It helps to be, yeah, like someone who you can't hit, because they're weaker than you. Yeah. But Tony walks that fucking line.
Whitney was telling me before, I did a little tour toward the back end of last year, which was pretty interesting. And I was saying, what should I expect? She says, expect to get a bit more boring as it goes on. It's like, what do you mean? She said, well, in order for art to imitate life, you have to live a life.
And the problem is, if you're on the road, all you know are airports and hotels and dinners and shows, and that's it. And she was saying that she was in a Hollywood script writers meeting, and they were saying, it's a Saturday morning, where is she? And someone shouted from the back, she's in a baby shower. And Whitney was like, who goes to a baby shower? All right.
She's doing a wine tasting. She's like, no one goes to a wine tasting. And the room turned and apparently said, no, Whitney, you don't. Other normal people do that. So you've got this vicious trap of success.
It must happen with musicians as well. How are you supposed to, if you're some heartfelt singer talking about your makeups and breakups of relationships, and now you're dealing with the fear of me too, that doesn't exactly give sort of beautiful romance around what you're talking about. The same thing goes for comedians, same thing goes for anything. The whole point of what you're trying to do is be representation, be representative for the normal person. And the more that your life becomes strange and rarefied and on the road, the less of that you get to experience, which is less inspiration for the art.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a matter of like, what are you doing when you're on the road? Are you on the road just to make money? Because then you just have to just treat it as a very fortunate job.
And you definitely are not going to get the same kind of life experience. You're not. You're just not. You're going to be traveling all the time and you're going to be staying in hotels. You're going to be doing gigs.
Most of your time you'll be thinking about doing the material that you prepared and getting your set together. But you could still take stuff in if you choose to. You know, you can go to cities and check out museums. You can go to cities and, you know, go on a tour of the town. You just have to be proactive.
And you could watch documentaries. Like I like to watch documentaries on the road. I try to educate myself more on the road than watching something just entertaining. So, like I'm on the road, I'm supposed to be doing standup. I'm awake.
Let me watch something on Nepal. You know what I mean? Like, let me, let me, let me get interested in something. Like. let me get my mind stimulated with something other than just performing and traveling.
Yeah. But you have to choose to. It's like you have to choose to go to the gym. Like when I, everyone's like, how's the jet lag? I go, you just got to kill it.
It's just like a thing you have to do. It's like jumping in the cold water. Like it sucks. But if you do it, you'll feel better. You got to go right to the gym.
Like the moment you land, plane lands, check in your hotel, gym, right away. No, ifs, ands, or buts. Go to the fucking gym or do a hotel workout. You could do a great body weight workout. You could do a yoga routine.
Staying in hotels with gyms is the easiest hack for that.
Oh, it's so nice. If you go to a hotel and they have kettlebells, like, oh my God, this is amazing. Game over. Yeah, this is amazing. And so you just get a nice workout in, really fucking exert your body, get that sweat going, get your heart rate up, and you'll settle in.
All that jet lag. shit, it's nonsense. It all goes away. Even when you travel. When I go to overseas, it's like, just, just fucking work out one day really hard.
And then it seems like everything just resets everything. It's like a threshold. You want to like really sweat, like really get something, like push it a little bit.
So you're like, all right, now we're back.
Just whoop.
Normality.
Yeah, total normality. And then also, you got to make sure you're hydrated. That plane travel is just a brutal thing in your body. You're probably getting radioactive waves at an unhealthy level. Like those stewardesses, you know.
I'd love to see a study looking at the, what's happening to their telomeres, what's happening to their DNA. You know, of pilots and stewardesses and stuff.
Is there anything like that?
I have no idea. I'd love to know it, though. There must be. Someone must have done a longevity study on that.
You got to think, when they first started doing that, like for all of human history, they didn't fly people in the air. And then they first started doing that. They had no idea. What if it made them psychic? What if, like all those, all that radiation, what if it was like a comic book type deal?
Like instead of, you know, instead of, you know, you get cancer, you get some crazy new.
power.
In comic books, everybody gets power. Nobody gets power in the real world.
They all come back down in their green, or they're invisible. They can see things. Yeah.
They can see things.
They can turn you gay.
Oh, Jesus.
I think our government's trying that one. I think they could do basically whatever they want. They could see through walls. We can come up with all kinds of superpowers that they would get. But the idea is like, we really didn't know what radiation did for you.
Yeah. You know, that's what those terrible injuries that those women got that were using loom, the radioactive loom. What is that shit called again, Jamie? Radium. Radium.
Yeah.
To make the watch faces lighter.
Oh, it's so horrible.
And they were having babies as well. They were pregnant and their kids had problems.
They had holes in their faces. Their faces rotted off. It was horrible.
I'm pretty sure.
Didn't Marie Curie also have some problem like that as well? Yeah. Everybody that did research around radioactive substances, early 1900s, just got fully fucked.
Have you seen the hands of the ladies who used to test the x-ray machines? No. Oh, it's a horrible injury, man. Because back in the day before they knew that x-rays were dangerous, they had to make sure the x-ray machine worked in the office. So these ladies would put their hand in every day.
Before the patient came in? Every day. So they were getting a dose of, one hand dose of-.
Every day.
And presumably, oh, was it always the same hand?
You look at the hand. It's fucking gross, man. It's just, their hands got cancer. They just got hand cancer. Their hands are all shriveled up and fucked up.
Yeah. Oh! That's an illustration of one, but there's photographs of one. That one up above, the top row. The middle and top, that's the one.
Look at that, dude. That's a lady who got too many x-rays. Just cooked her hand.
This hand's showing damage from radiation exposure back in the 1900s.
See, they didn't know. That's what I'm saying. They really didn't know what was going to happen.
Oh. Yeah.
Yeah, they would test that motherfucker. Look at that dude's hand. Cooked. Yeah. So he'd just test the hand.
See ya.
So this is the 1900s, Jamie? Wow. 1865 to 1904 is when-.
Worked with Thomas Edison.
This guy lived. A glass blower.
Wow.
He would test x-ray tubes he made on his own hands and died after developing aggressive cancer.
He had both of his arms amputated in an unsuccessful attempt to save his life.
Oh my God. Shortly after his death, Thomas Edison abandoned his research on x-rays. Shortly after.
Dude, I got to teach you about this.
The other guy. The other guy's fucked too. There's two.
Everyone's wrecked.
Yeah. What happened to that guy? Jesus Christ.
He was saved by the beard. I've got a new man crush that I need to teach you about.
Uh-oh.
And he died 60 years ago, so it's okay. I'm sorry. So, Jamie, I think this guy might have the best top paragraph Wikipedia description in history. Can you just Google the unkillable soldier and you'll see a Wikipedia entry at the top?
Is this a real human?
Real human.
When did he live?
1880 until about 1960 or so. So he went through- Ooh, is he- He's Sissu.
No?
Sir Adrian Carter. Sir Adrian- No, in the beginning of the movie, that's the legend.
Yeah. Maybe it's not a real guy. Well, Sissu's a Scandinavian movie, isn't it?
It's a British guy. It's a good British-.
Is it Swedish? Who made Sissu? Did you see Sissu?
No. Bro. What is it? It's amazing. What is it?
It's John Wick in World War II. It's this one fucking badass soldier-.
Bim, bim, bim, bim, bim.
That kills all the Nazis. It's incredible. It's one of the most satisfying revenge movies.
Yeah, so go to his Wikipedia, Adrian Carton de Watt. I think he might have the best- There it is.
Lieutenant General Sir Adrian Paul Ghislaine Carton de Watt was a British Army soldier, officer, born of Belgian and Irish parents. He was awarded the Victoria Cross, the highest military decoration awarded for valour in the face of the enemy in various Commonwealth countries. He served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War. He was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear, was blinded in his left eye, survived two plane crashes, tunnelled out for a prisoner of war camp, and tore off his own fingers when a doctor declined to amputate them. Describing his experiences in the First World War, he wrote, Frankly, I had enjoyed the war.
There's dudes like that out there. You just have to know there's guys like that out there.
This guy's story, let me tell you about him, man. So he gets born in 1882, aristocracy in Belgium, and you think he's going to go through the typical aristocratic route. He goes to Balliol College in Oxford. His father wants him to go and study law. And you think, right, that's the end of the story.
there. At 19,, he decides that he wants to go and see war, sneaks away without telling his father, and literally offers himself to either the Boers or the British. The British take him. Holy shit. He's like, I just want to be in war.
Holy shit.
His father doesn't know. So he's away in war. He gets shot in the leg and the groin, gets shipped back home. His father says, you were supposed to be in university. You've now been shot.
Okay, well, I'll bless this new military campaign you want to go on. He says, I want to be redeployed. Gets redeployed again to South Africa. He was at the head of the Camel Corps, which was literally a group of people who rode into battle on Camelback. So he gets shot.
He gets shot in the ear and then in the eye, and then a bullet ricochets and hits him in the same eye again. He's leading these guys into battle. He gets sent back home. The British military say he wants to go out on the First World War. He wants to go to the front lines of the First World War now.
But they said, we can't send a guy with one eye out there because it's going to look like we've got really weak soldiers. So they give him a glass eye and say, the only way you can go back out is if you wear this glass eye. And he says, okay. In the taxi leaving the hospital, takes it out, throws it out of a window and starts wearing an eye patch. The first battle that he's in, when he rejoins the army in World War I,
a piece of shrapnel explodes his hand.
and all that's left are two fingers hanging on by the skin of the palm of his hand. And his watch actually embeds itself in his arm too. So this is the first thing that he's encountered. again. Goes to the field hospital.
The doctor declines to amputate the fingers. So he just rips them off in front of him because he's in so much pain. The arm then has to be amputated. So he says to the guys again, I want to be redeployed. They're like, you are now a one-eyed amputee.
I want to be deployed. Battle of the Somme, his next battle that he goes into. There's reports from other soldiers seeing Carton Duarte running into battle, pulling the pins out of grenades with his teeth, throwing them at the enemy and reloading a revolver with one hand. So this guy is a single armed killer. During that, he gets shot in.
the, gets shot through the back of the head. Through the head.
Doesn't die.
In subsequent battles, oh, he got promoted for 24 hours before he threatened to punch his superior and then got demoted again. So he's just like this totally wild dude. Anyway, he goes through this series of different, difficult military exposés. He takes over three squadrons who don't have a commanding officer. None of them have any communication.
So he, this one-armed, one-eyed guy, decides to run back and forth between the three different companies, communicating his own orders. Rather than using a messenger, he just does it himself. That was what he got the Victoria Cross for, which is our equivalent of the Medal of Honor. During this time, he's shot a bunch more. You think, right, okay, this guy's just led the most insane campaign through the Boer War and the First World War.
Time for him to retire.
Wrong.
Sixty years old, in 1940, he gets conscripted and drawn back up to help run secret missions. So his first mission, one of his first missions, he gets shot down in a fjord going toward Romania. There's a German plane that shot his plane down, circling overhead. Rather than get into the dinghy, because it would be an easy target, this one-armed, one-eyed guy and all the rest of the crew just bob under the water until this German fighter plane runs out of ammunition. That goes away.
He finally gets picked up. Second time he goes up in a plane, this plane crash lands, and he swims to shore carrying an injured comrade who survives. One arm, but swims carrying this other dude, gets captured by the Italians. He's then part of five escape attempts and digs a 60-meter tunnel with one arm and a bunch of other dudes. Then he spends a full week hiding out in northern Italy, despite the fact that he's 62 years old, one-armed, one-eyed, can't speak Italian, and has covered in scars.
Then he finally, finally gets picked up and released. They said that the only thing that the Italians had left to do was to use him to enable an armistice. They wanted to no longer be a part of the war. They use Carton Duarte to be an envoy between the two nations. They said, well, you've been a prisoner of war for nine months.
You don't look or smell the way that you should do. Why don't we give you a nice Italian tailor?
He rejected their offer to give him an Italian suit and said he would only wear one if they got it from Savile Row because, quote, he didn't want to look like a gigolo.
This guy's a human badger.
He's 31 medals, shot nearly as many times, got used. He insulted Mao, insulted Chairman Mao in China when he got used by Winston Churchill. There's photos of him stood behind Churchill, eyepatch, just a fucking sleeve, and he's my new... Look at him, look at him.
Wow.
One of the coolest people from history that no one knows about.
What an animal.
What an animal.
Jesus.
Why hasn't anybody done a movie on that guy's life?
I don't know. There's another that doesn't even really have a particularly good book. He wrote a memoir called Happy Odyssey, which is written by him, as opposed to a bit more exciting. Alistair Urquhart, this guy called the Forgotten Highlander. This is probably one of my favorite books.
I taught Ryan Holiday about this, and it fucking blew his mind. So this dude was 18 years old and got conscripted in World War II. He was Scottish, Scottish regiment, gets sent to, I think, Singapore. Then Japan joined the war. The Japanese just invade, fucking everywhere, take everything that they can, including him.
So this guy is made to forced march for weeks, with nothing, a loincloth, bloody feet being cut up by the surroundings. He has every tropical disease under the sun for five years straight, dysentery and malaria and everything he can get, probably yellow fever and full works. He's part of the forced labor group that's made to build the bridge over the River Kwai, famous movie. One of the prison guards tries to sexually assault him, so he kicks him in the nuts and runs away and hides. But there's not much, like, what are you going to do?
What are you going to run to? You can't survive without the meager amounts of rice that they're giving you. So they find him and lock him in an open tin box to bake in the sun for three days, doesn't die. Like, right, okay, well, this guy's sufficiently resilient. We can probably use him.
If he's this resilient, to survive this, he'd probably be a good worker, so let's keep him and we'll do the rest of it. So they then pull him out. They need to transport all of these prisoners, so they put them on what they called a hell ship. These hell ships were just huge tin boxes with no Swiss cross on the side, which is what you should have to say, that you're transporting prisoners of war so that it's not a military vehicle. And they would just toss tiny morsels of food down to 100 men that were in the hold of this ship.
It was baking hot in the midday sun as they're traveling over the water, and these guys still doesn't die. They're stood in their own feces. People are dying, left and right, starting to decompose. So, because they didn't put the Swiss cross on the side, a U.S. military, I think it was a boat or a submarine, sent a torpedo at them.
So his boat that he's on explodes. He then catches a piece of flotsam or jetsam or detritus, like a little bucket that he can sit in so that he can float around, basically has a fight with another Japanese guy who's also doing the same thing, finally washes up on shore. He's free, briefly, but he's in Japanese territory. I can't remember what country he washes up on, maybe Singapore again. He then gets recaptured, put back to work again, and gets knocked off his feet by the bomb blast from Nagasaki.
He gets hit by the bomb blast and knocked off his feet by it.
Holy shit!
50 years. This guy doesn't talk about it at all, doesn't say a peep for 50 years by orders of the British government, and then finally writes this memoir as a call to arms to bring the Japanese to account for the atrocities. We had the Nuremberg trials and stuff for the Germans, but there wasn't that similar kind of reckoning for the Japanese, and he thought this is unforgivable because of what he went through. For the rest of his life, he could only eat tiny, tiny amounts of rice. His stomach, his whole digestive system was ruined by starvation, just extended starvation for this five-year period.
and very, very tiny morsels of food.
So his stomach had adapted to that, and that was this guy, and he died in the early 2000s and then wrote this book, The Forgotten Highlander.
Wow. I got to get that.
It's so fucking good, man.
That's on the list now. Wow. Yeah, I read The Rape of Nam King years ago.
What's it about?
It's about Japan during the war, what they did in China. Just the atrocities they did with people's children, their babies in front of them, the way they just tortured people. What people can justify doing in times of war is absolutely terrifying, and when you read about it and you read about it from a time that's less than 100 years ago, it's so shocking. It's so shocking because when you think of the Japanese, when I think of Japanese, I think polite culture, warrior society, a long history of martial arts, amazing engineering, incredible automobiles. I think of all these positive things.
I don't think of what happened during World War II. It's really terrifying. There was a documentary about it, too, that I remember I had to buy online from VHS tape. It was very hard to get. It was some sort of an educational documentary, something that they would show at a university.
Oh, God.
About the rape of Nanking?
Yeah, it's just horrible. Just to know that people are capable of doing that to other people, the children and women and just anybody, anybody that's not them, and you can get away with it because this is war.
There's been an awful lot of very atrocious things that have been justified by those people are different to us. Let's do something to them.
Any reason, whether those people vote Republican or those people don't believe in masks, or those people, you know, they have a different belief. Those people don't believe in our one God. Those people, they're of the unclean faith. There's so many different ways people can look at someone as an other, and it's just insane what we're capable of when we do that. People openly justify horrible things to people online.
I see it all the time from Twitter. Justify horrible things to people because the people don't believe what they believe. They'll attribute the most nasty fucking descriptions of people just because they don't believe what they believe. It's like the least charitable view is highlighted the most. It's just so, you know, it's this thing that we have, this ability to other people.
It's one of the worst aspects of human beings.
I think more people are bound together over the mutual hatred of an out-group than the mutual love of an in-group.
Yep, sure.
I think there's this really great psychological study that was done, where they bring a big group of people into a lab and they toss a coin. And if it's heads, you're blue team, and if it's tails, you're red team. So, toss a coin, and it's a roundabout, an even split. Maybe 50-50 people. And they go over to the blue team and they say, so what do you think about the red team?
Well, I mean, they're not as smart as us, are they? They're a bit, like, fucking stupid. You seen them over there? I mean, we're definitely the better team. You actually just saw the selection criteria.
The selection criteria was heads or tails, 50-50, completely arbitrary. Immediately, as soon as you give people the opportunity to find some tribal bias to lock onto, they go.
Yeah, they go. Yeah, well, people are cowards too, that's part of it. There's a lot of strength in being a part of an aggressive group that believes one thing. That's why you see a lot of people that have been bullied their whole lives become the biggest bully. They're on, like, something, some side of something that they think is, like, moving progress, moving social progress in a certain direction.
They'll get super hyper-aggressive. You know, it's like, this is their chance.
This is what I think most people don't understand about evil. The number of evil people in the world is probably quite low. What you have is people doing evil things for what they think are good ends. Almost all of the atrocities that we've seen throughout human history are people trying to, doing something they feel is righteous, because that's what would motivate them. It's very unadaptive for us to do something that we know is wrong.
The best way to get someone to be a part and go along with an atrocious act is to make them think that it's in service of good.
Definitely. Yeah. Which is why we enjoy movies like John Wick and Sisu.
Retribution.
Yeah. These people deserve it. Show them the trailer for Sisu. It's amazing. How old is this movie?
It's not that old. Two years?
It was made during the pandemic, came out in 2022..
There's maybe, like, three words said in the whole movie.
There's all of the stats about the number of people that Keanu Reeves kills. Sorry, I can't. I'll ask after this.
Oh,
that's so good.
It's so good! He throws a mine and hits a dude in the head with it.
It's so good.
He's a John Wick-pilled gun-maxing killer.
Look, I'm a giant John Wick fan, but it's John Wick times two. Because it's Nazis! He's not just killing, like, dumb Russian hitmen. He's killing Nazis. They tried to steal his gold!
It was made after The Unkillable Soldier. It was modeled after Rambo, basically. What? From First Blood.
Rambo from First Blood?
And a real-life military sniper, named Seymour Haya.
Oh, yeah, I heard about that. dude. It's funny when you think about a movie like Rambo. Rambo is a film. that's indicative.
It's another time capsule. It's indicative of a corny time. People were kind of corny.
It's a bit cheesy.
Movies are just hard to... Things are so much more identified, like patterns of behavior. People are so much more sophisticated socially, I think, about stuff. It's very difficult to get a Rambo-type movie made today.
Some of those, like the First Blood ones. There was some Chuck Norris movies. They're fun to watch, but they're so indicative of the time. What's this one?
This is the trailer.
Oh, the trailer.
It's a lot of talking. I thought it would be more action.
Oh,
dude, I miss this guy.
One man. One man. they pushed too far.
We've talked about him a few times because of the gray man, but they recently just said, Sly said that Ryan Gosling could be the only guy who would like vouch for Rambo. Oh, to carry on the torch? Yeah, he might be too pretty to do it. Look at this shit, Adam, he's going to jump in the water. This is basically the full movie.
Just fight back. It's a long trailer.
Everyone's TikTok brain wouldn't allow a trailer this long anymore.
Is that an explosion?
Fucking brilliant.
But it's a sign of the times.
Did we find out who the little girl was in that movie? Oh, I did.
I found the movie. It's called Frontier. Gal, is what the movie was called.
Frontier Gal.
And it wasn't Shirley Temple, Beverly Simmons.
So that was a time capsule. And Rambo's a time capsule too. It's a time capsule to a time where the art form was just different. That was her.
Can I just check? I don't seem to recall the complex plot of John Wick. Is he still killing people because of his dog?
Well, see, they dragged him back in. See, here's what happened.
He killed everybody because of his dog, and then he was ready to retire.
How far did that go? First one, second one?
Second one.
Okay, so two full episodes of killing. Yes.
Well, he had to get his car back in the second one.
So first one was dog, second one was car. Yeah.
In the second one, he shows up. He kills everybody at the warehouse that's storing all the stolen cars. And then he toasts, make a toast with the Russian mob boss to peace.
And, you know, it's like, can a man like you really know peace? He's like, why not? He's like, okay, cheers. So the guy freaks out that John Wick doesn't kill him. John Wick leaves, goes back to regular John Wick.
He doesn't have the slick back hair anymore. He's not wearing the suit anymore, just like a regular guy. And he's got his car. It's all fucked up, and they fix his car. And then a dude that he owed a marker to comes to visit him and says, I want you to kill my sister.
And he has to do it because he had this marker with his bloods in it. And so then he's back in the business.
That's the second one.
Yeah, and then he kills that guy. Spoiler alert. And then the whole world's after him. That's John Wick 3..
And then there's a fourth one.
And there's a fourth one, which is basically a superhero. And the fourth one, they're over the top crazy.
I enjoyed the fourth one, but it's a very different thing than the first one. The first one, you could kind of believe that all that could really happen. By the fourth one, they had a band and all that shit. They have bulletproof jackets, and they're running into bullets. It's cartoonish, but it's fun.
The most crazy movie-across-into-real-world thing that I've learned about is this modified RX-9 Hellfire missile. Have you seen this?
No.
This thing is insane. Do the honors, Jamie. Let's look at this.
Is it one of the hypersonic missiles that changes direction?
This is more precise.
What they realized was that collateral damage is a big deal in war zones. Because if you kill people that aren't just the target, you galvanize that group against your... Yeah, there it is. America's secret ninja bomb packed with blades that shred militants alive. Oh, my God.
So there's no explosive in the front of it. It gets deployed using an existing platform. But rather than having an explosive payload, these razor-sharp, six razor-sharp swords come out the side of it, and just turn human flesh into smoothies.
Look at what it does to a car.
Oh, my God.
But how precise this thing is. It's so precise. You had the Flying Jinsu. I think it's colloquially called the Jihadi Blender.
Oh, my God. They just shoot it into cars.
So it's so precise that you need to know which seat of the car the... The bad guy's in. Bad dude's in, yeah. Because if it was a long enough vehicle, front right seat and back left seat, back left seat will be scared, but it'll be fine. So there was this dude, supposedly one of the masterminds behind 9-11..
They'd done surveillance on this guy, and every morning he'd come out and drink his coffee on his balcony. Same balcony. Come out and he'd drink his coffee and look out.
So they just timed two of those things.
Comes out.
And that's it. There's no explosion. There's no nothing. And this guy just gets turned into dust.
They shot two of them at him?
Two. Just in case the first one missed, I think. Oh, my God. Laser guided. Set it off.
And here's the other thing, because it only propels for the first two seconds, and then after that it's just using fins. So it works out the trajectory. So there's not even the sound of engine coming toward you. It's just silence, and then blades and death.
Oh, it's a flying rage hypodermic. Do you know what a rage hypodermic is? A rage hypodermic is a wild mechanical broadhead that they invented for bow hunting. So, instead of a bow hunting broadhead being a fixed blade, like a solid piece of metal that's screwed into the end of your arrow, instead it's a mechanical broadhead that, upon impacting tissue, opens up into this huge opening. They make giant holes.
They call them rage holes, and they kill animals quick. And it's kind of controversial in that if your blade hits a branch on the way in or a stalk of hay or something like that, it could trigger it, and then it would fuck up the trajectory of the arrow, and it might lead to a bad shot.
So there's that, and then it could get deployed accidentally in your quiver, and you might not know it when you're drawing and shooting. It could be open, and it could open up in flight. But if it stays closed and it does impact, it makes a giant hole.
Cam took me to the bow rack.
Ah, you did lift, run, shoot.
I did. He fucked me up. He made me go up the hill. He was brutal. He made me carry that rock.
How long did you have? What is it, like two miles?
I don't know. I think it's maybe about a mile up and a mile down, but it's pretty steep. I mean, there's a 72-pound rock with you.
You had to carry the rock down?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, did we carry it down? I can't remember. I think you're supposed to.
But he made me do the trail, but he taught me to shoot, and I was looking with gruesome glee, looking at all of the different types of arrows in the bow rack, looking at all of these different heads and all of the different attachments. It advertises exit wound three-inch diameter, exit wound five-inch diameter.
Cam shoots this thing called a carnivore, and the carnivore is a broadhead that's got four blades. It opens up a canal in these animals. Yeah. It's like for bow hunting, though, it's extremely effective. If you can get it into the vitals, it's like that's a lethal shot every time.
It's such a big hole.
I wonder how many,
is it more humane to kill something more easily, is my question.
Yeah, it's more humane to use a rifle in a lot of circumstances.
That's literally just the non-rocket propelled version of what we just saw.
Yeah, it's like a carnivore.
Go back to that carnivore thing so you can see what it is. So that's a really big one. So the controversy in bow hunting is always like fixed blades are more durable, but mechanical blades have more cutting surface.
What is that?
What is that?
Turn stuff into pizza slices.
Colorful eagle, that's what it's called. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that seems like it wouldn't fly. good. See, the problem is they have to fly good, too, and the more metal surface area you have, the more you have a chance of what's called planing.
So as the crosswinds hit your arrows, your blade can drift because the wind hits the broadhead. So if you have a wide cut, solid, like fixed blade broadhead, that's another sort of thing that can catch wind. Yeah, people tune them. So if you have like a single bevel broadhead, so there's a single bevel broadhead, which is a broadhead, which is a fixed blade broadhead that has only had the edge sharpened on one side, and that encourages rotation. And that rotation has to align with the helical of your veins.
You don't want them to be fighting with each other. So if you have a left helical on your veins of your arrow, you also want a left helical on this broadhead. And so these are tuned in tightly together. And so it's a very painstaking process. You have to make sure you're doing it right.
You're going to move your rest a little bit. But once you get it dialed in and you can shoot accurate out to like 60, 70 yards with it, you know that it's called broadhead tuned. So with field points, you don't really have to do that because the fletchings, they steer it enough and you just have to be kind of on target. You have to be closer. But with broadheads, you have to be like really, really locked in.
So that's the negative of the broadhead.
They made me shoot through the paper to see where are you pulling accidentally,
and then they adjust and tune.
Dude, I loved it. I love seeing anyone that loves anything that much. That degree of passion to me is, so me and my housemate, Zach, watch these videos of motocross. You know, the Colin McRae. Oh, is that Rallycross?
Sorry. And these dudes will go out to butt-fuck-nowhere Scotland in November, and it's pissing down with rain and they're in ponchos, and they do it to see.
And then they turn to each other and go, and they just lose their shit. And it's so, dude, it makes the hairs on my arm stand up. Jimmy, see if we can find some of these videos. It's the most pure, loving audience of a thing. And just finding anyone, the same as Wayne Endicott at the Bow Rack, just the way that they play with the bow, and they know that if they add a tiny little bit of flame from a lighter to the sight, that it will sort of cinch it in a different way, and it heats the sinew of the thread and it tightens that in.
Seeing anyone that loves anything, that much is just, there's something very gentle and honest and peaceful and beautiful about that. It is. It fires me up.
I couldn't agree more. I love watching people make things and put things together, and I love watching people work on cars, do mechanical things. I'd love that shit. But the Bow Rack, one of the things that's interesting about archery is that, even if you're just interested in target archery, any kind of archery that you're interested in, unless you are shooting a traditional bow where there's no sights on it, and you're just kind of like doing it by feel, and then you learn how to aim, depending upon how much your arrow weighs, you can get pretty accurate with those things, but not nearly as accurate as you can with a compound bow. And with a compound bow, it has to be fitted to your frame.
You have to go to a place like the Bow Rack, and if you're lucky and you have a place like that, that's great, because they're really good at it. But you might not be lucky, so you might have to travel hours to go to some place.
People were. When we were there, I think it was maybe a Saturday morning, and we've driven six hours to come to this place.
And you have to go to a good place, too, because the first place I went to, my draw length, they had an inch longer than it should have been. The peep sight was weird. I had to cock my head weird to look at the peep sight. And then I went to a good place, and they fixed it right. And then I went, oh.
This is an extension of my body now.
It becomes, if you practice it enough, it never really becomes an extension of your body, but you do get so comfortable in that activity that it becomes a normal thing to you. So then that activity is all just about the fine details of breathing and thinking and shot execution in your head. And the goal is always, at least the way I do it, is always to make a surprise shot. I never want to get it to go off. I want to be in full draw.
I want to have my pin on the target, and I want to just be concentrated on that arrow hitting the mark, and then I just go through this shot execution thing, and it goes off. And when it goes off, the ultimate goal is just watch that arrow go exactly where you want it to go. And when I do that at, like, 74 yards, it is the most satisfying feeling in the world. Just targets. Just shooting at a foam target.
It's so satisfying. And it requires so much concentration that in that act of doing that, the world goes away. And that's the key to it. That's the key to anything that I really enjoy doing. that's very difficult.
I think you need little vacations from the world. And if you have an hour and a half to shoot a bow, it can provide you with a vacation from the world. You are literally only thinking. It's so difficult to do, and it's so involving, and it's so rewarding when you get it right that you're completely locked into this one activity, and the world goes away.
I love it, man. I love the solitude and the peace that you get doing something that you know well and that you can get better at. And I often think about, like, three types of Chris. Dopamine Chris, Serotonin Chris, and Cortisol Chris. And my goal is to spend as much time in Serotonin Chris as possible.
But Dopamine Chris plays on modern wisdom and growing the channel and money and new stuff and traveling to new places and novelty. And Cortisol Chris is dealing with the operations and its executive function. It's answering emails, and it's dealing with challenges. And Cortisol is kind of exciting too, but Serotonin Chris is walking with your friends in nature and calling your mom and catching up and having dinner, going to a comedy show, watching live music. And I found that when I'm not feeling balanced in myself is when I'm spending too much time.
And things aren't bad. Things are going well. They could be even going excellently. But I'm still in Dopamine Chris a lot, and he's gangster rap and a V8 engine. And I want to be magic mushrooms in a hammock.
But wait a minute. Pause, please. Because you just bought a Camaro.
I did.
You son of a bitch. I know. You bought an SS too, right?
Two SS. Yeah. 6.2 liter V8.. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. You embrace American culture.
I just need to get some beers.
Did you get a manual transmission?
No. I've spent. So in the UK, almost everybody learns to drive manual. So there's two types of license in the UK, manual license and an automatic license. If you learn in an automatic, don't get to drive a manual.
You have to take the test as a manual.
Oh, my goodness. That's a smart move. Yep. That's one case where England's got us.
Fuck, yeah.
You guys went on that one. Hell, yeah. I think it's a dying thing, obviously, because it's not as smart. Why do I have to use my left foot?
Dude, your entire, in the UK, my whole, the left side of my body, left arm and left leg, just go chill out, go on holiday for the next hour. while I do this journey. I can use right arm only and right leg. But, yeah, I remember hearing, I think it was Tim Kennedy talking about, if you're a guy who is cared about preparedness and you don't know how to drive a manual car, that's not preparedness. Imagine that you're halfway up a mountain and only one car works, or you need to get somebody down, or there's been a car wreck or something, and it's a manual car.
Are you going to work it out on the fly?
Yeah.
How many people know how to drive manual cars in America, do you think?
Let's guess. I would say 10%.
I'll guess 10%.
What do you think? What do you think it is?
I have no idea for America. Maybe, I would have guessed, I would have hoped 50%, but I don't know how many people are exposed to them. In the UK, I would say 90%. 90% of driving license holders will be able to drive a manual car, at least.
That's interesting. Yeah, I saw a lot of them in Italy. Everybody had a manual, everywhere.
They don't give a fuck about their cars either. They're just crashing, like little dinks. You know, we're so precious, especially in the UK. I don't know how it is in the US. so much.
We're so precious. But the little scratch, oh, you better get that painted up. In Spain or France or Greece, or something, that's just a bit of, what's it called? Patina. There's a bit of patina on it.
It gives it character.
Well, some cars, they look at it like here. Like if you have a Jeep or something like that, you get it all scuffed up, that's fine. But yeah.
Yeah, it's a good thing to know how to do. It's also, the real problem is, if there's some sort of an electronic blast, if something happens, like a solar flare that takes out the grid, and the only, because if electronics get fried, and this is a real possibility, I know you're like, what are you saying? First of all, you have to understand, entire planets get fried by supernovas. It's not just electronics. Things happen in intergalactic space.
that would end everything for us. And it 100% could happen. That's a real thing. But solar flares taking out power grids, that's a fucking real possibility. Taking out satellites, that's a real possibility.
And one of the things about most modern cars is most modern cars are essentially run by a computer. So if all the computers get fried, guess what? Your car doesn't work. I mean, if we're running into some sort of situation, some horrible event, where all the computers get fried, that means your fucking car doesn't work.
You also can't move anywhere.
Unless you have an old car. Now, if you have an old car that works on carburetors, you know, those are cars, like if you have an actual, real 1969 Camaro, not like the ones, I have, ones that have new stuff in them. So all the new stuff is computers. They'll be useless. All the ECU that powers, all the ignition and the electronic fuel injection, that shit's out the window.
Your car's now controlled by China.
No, it's not controlled by anybody. It's a lump. It's a lump. And it's unless I could figure out how to put a carburetor on it, and I can't. I'm fucked.
You know, and you'd have to gut the whole system. All the electronics are wired into it. The speedometer's wired into it.
I was hearing that my neighbor has a Tesla, and I think he gets his insurance through Tesla, but they can see the diagnostics of how he drives the car. So his insurance is way more expensive because it knows how late he brakes, how fast he accelerates, how close to other cars he is. You want to talk about encroachments on freedom?
I didn't know they did that.
There's a algorithm that's used in China, that when someone is applying for medical insurance,
it uses the website to track the number of typos.
and the movement of the mouse, and they've mapped that with an algorithm to predict pre-Parkinsonian, pre-Alzheimer, dementia, all of these things. So, basically, if you're filling in your medical insurance in China and you fuck up a little bit, your premium goes up.
Wow.
That's coming. All that stuff's coming. And a lot of dummies, they're going to sign up for it because they'll attach it to something you think is important, like climate change, and that's how they're going to get you.
One third of Gen Z... Fucking Greta Thunberg again. One third of Gen Z kids say that they would accept the installation of surveillance cameras inside the home to detect wrongdoing.
One third.
30%.
I wonder if they really believe that, or if they say that because they know it's not happening and they just want to say that they're a good person.
It's a lot.
You're also a dumb young person that doesn't understand what you're giving up.
Well, I think another potential reason for it might be you're part of a generation that has traded your...
Privacy.
Precisely. From the moment that you were born.
You know what they do? Snapchat. They give each other their locations.
Yes, yes.
Snap map, I think.
Yeah, so all the kids know exactly where all the other kids are. So if you're dating some gal...
You see her with that other person. that's on your friends list.
And you see, you're not where you said you were going to be?
Yeah, it's a...
So what do people do now? They just, where are you? I see where you are. That's kind of weird.
You read the terms and conditions of TikTok a while ago. I can't remember whether you saw... TikTok has written into its user agreement that it can use the front-facing camera to detect micro-expressions and use that to inform the algorithm.
Fuck. Yo.
Yo. So if you see something and go, yo, see some crazy Instagram video?
There it is. They're like, oh, we got you. Whatever it is that they know, yo, there's pleasure, there's disgust, there's anger, there's anger.
And I bet it's cross-platform. I bet if they have that app, they have that ability, and you have it open, I bet they use it no matter what you're doing. I bet if you're flipping over and now all of a sudden you're on Instagram or now all of a sudden you're on Facebook or Twitter, I bet they still can see all your... I bet they see exactly what you're seeing.
Well, think about with the Apple Vision Pro that Jamie's going to have to debate about whether or not he takes it back over the next 12 hours. How much eye tracking? What is that able to tell from what you're doing? What about the latency between your fingers and your eyes? Is that able to predict early-onset dementia or some neurological decline?
Yeah.
Yeah. Or could that be used against you? if they decide, like, what do we get Chris on? I don't like Chris being the CEO of this company anymore. Let's decide that he's in decline.
Oh, and let's use that.
And also, start gaslighting him. Like, you. okay, Chris?
You seem a little...
Like, you, just seem off lately.
Dude, did you...
Just hot gaslighting.
Did you see the outcome from this special counsel report on Biden?
No, I did not. Okay, let me pee, because this is a big one, and I'm holding in a pee.
Get your pee. Let's pee together.
Okay, let's do that. We'll be right back, folks.
Fun as well.
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