Hunter Biden Conviction Aftermath, Garland Contempt Vote, Inflation Report

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President Biden says he'll accept the outcome after a jury convicted his son, Hunter, on

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three felonies.

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How are Republicans reacting to the verdict after calling the Justice Department biased?

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I'm Steve Inskeep with Rob Schmitz, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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House Republicans are demanding that the head of the Justice Department turn over audio

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recording of the president's deposition for mishandling classified documents.

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If the attorney general chooses to defy Congress and not produce the audio recordings, he must

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face the consequences of his actions.

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What would those consequences be?

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And are you waiting for interest rates to drop before buying a house or car?

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You may have to wait a little longer.

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It's just going to be a slow grind in terms of how much inflation cools.

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President Biden made a quick, unexpected trip to Delaware yesterday to support his son.

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Yeah, the president traveled to an Air National Guard base in Delaware, and on the tarmac,

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he hugged Hunter Biden, who a federal jury had just convicted on felony gun charges.

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Hunter denied his drug addiction when filling out a form to buy a firearm.

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The trial revealed many details of his addiction and persuaded a jury.

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NPR Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas attended every single day of his trial.

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Ryan, good morning.

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Good morning.

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You've reported elsewhere on the evidence against Biden and the verdict.

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Now we have the president's reaction.

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He says he's a dad, too.

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What is the toll this has had on the Biden family?

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So look, this case against Hunter Biden was brought by special counsel David Weiss.

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And Weiss spoke a bit after the verdict yesterday.

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Here's a bit of what he said.

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Ultimately, this case was not just about addiction, a disease that haunts families across the

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United States, including Hunter Biden's family.

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This case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction.

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Still, Hunter's addiction struggles were really the central feature of the trial.

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And members of the Biden family were in the front row of the courtroom every day of the

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trial.

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Hunter's wife was there.

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First Lady Jill Biden and other family members showed up for several days as well.

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And at times they were in tears listening to the ugly sordid testimony about Hunter's

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addiction to crack cocaine.

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Now, the government introduced the evidence to make their case to the jury, and ultimately

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the jury found that evidence convincing and convicted Hunter on all charges.

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The president, in his statement yesterday, noted that a lot of families in this country

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have loved ones who have battled addiction.

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And interestingly enough, the degree to which addiction hits American families was apparent

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during jury selection for Hunter's trial when some of the members of the jury said that

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they had either friends or family who had struggled with addiction.

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You know, Republicans had been demanding investigations of the Bidens for years.

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How have they responded?

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Well, it's interesting.

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The response from congressional Republicans has varied.

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Representative Thomas Massey from Kentucky, for example, he said on X that Hunter might

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deserve to be in jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it.

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Speaker Mike Johnson said on X that Hunter was only prosecuted because House Republicans

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had sounded the alarm.

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And he called on the Justice Department to investigate the Biden family.

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Now, some of that sentiment is rooted, of course, in anger over the criminal cases against

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former President Trump, including his recent conviction on state charges in New York.

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Trump's legal troubles have fed into Republican claims that the Justice Department targets

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Republicans, but it goes easy on Democrats.

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But here with this case against Hunter, you have the son of the sitting Democratic president

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charged and now convicted of federal gun crimes.

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There's also the ongoing federal trial in New York against Democratic Senator Bob Menendez

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on corruption charges.

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And another congressional Democrat, Henry Cuellar of Texas, he was indicted last month

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on corruption charges as well.

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I want to know one thing you said.

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There are some Democrats have insisted that Hunter Biden would not have been prosecuted

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for the statement on a form except for the political pressure by Republicans.

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You just said, Speaker Mike Johnson agrees with this.

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He was prosecuted because Republicans demanded it.

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Does Hunter Biden appeal this conviction?

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We don't have a definitive answer to that right now.

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He certainly challenged many aspects of the indictment and pretrial motions, including

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on Second Amendment grounds.

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Yesterday, his attorney, Abby Lowell, said they respect the jury's decision, but they'll

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continue to vigorously pursue all the legal challenges that are available to Hunter.

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Now, as for what's next, the judge in Delaware did not set a sentencing date yesterday for

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the gun conviction.

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She said she'd do so later.

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But there's another trial already on the horizon for Hunter Biden.

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Remember, Special Counsel Weiss also charged Hunter Biden with tax crimes.

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That is a separate case.

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It's in California.

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He faces nine counts there related to his failure to pay taxes on millions of dollars

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in income.

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And that case is currently scheduled to go to trial in September.

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That's NPR's Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas.

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Thanks, Ryan.

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Thank you.

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The House is set to vote today on a resolution to hold Attorney General Merrick Garland in

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contempt of Congress.

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Republican lawmakers demanded that the Justice Department turn over audio tapes of an interview

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the prosecutors conducted with President Biden.

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Garland said the administration doesn't have to do that, that it would violate the separation

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of powers between the president and Congress.

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NPR Justice Correspondent Kerry Johnson has been following this dispute and she's on the

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line now to talk more about it.

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Hey, Kerry.

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Good morning, Rob.

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Kerry, why do Republicans want these tapes so much?

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Republicans say they want these tapes because they're considering the possible impeachment

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of President Biden and because they're considering an update to laws that cover how sensitive

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and classified information is handled.

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But really, there could be another explanation, too, that the tapes would make Biden look

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and sound bad.

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Remember, prosecutors decided to close this investigation of how classified information

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came to be found at the home of President Biden with no charges, in part because they

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said jurors could conclude Biden was a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.

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Here's House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer.

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If the attorney general chooses to defy Congress and not produce the audio recordings, he must

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face the consequences of his actions.

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The attorney general has not turned over those tapes, so what are the consequences going

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to be?

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No one wants to be found in contempt of Congress, especially not Merrick Garland, who spent

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a couple of decades as a federal judge before his current job.

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But that reprimand doesn't have quite the sting it used to.

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I've now covered two other attorneys general who were held in contempt, Eric Holder and

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Bill Barr, and it's important to note Garland has some legal protection here.

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Last month, President Biden asserted executive privilege over these tapes, so Garland won't

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be prosecuted for refusing to hand them over, not that the U.S. attorney in D.C. would even

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want to pursue a prosecution against Garland, who happens to be his boss.

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So, Carrie, what is the Justice Department saying about this controversy?

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You know, the attorney general tends to be a guy who does his talking on paper or in

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courtrooms.

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But over the past few weeks, Merrick Garland has really pushed back.

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Here's what he had to say recently about this tapes dispute.

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We have gone to extraordinary lengths to ensure that the committees get responses to their

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legitimate requests.

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But this is not one.

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To the contrary, this is one that would harm our ability in the future to successfully

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pursue sensitive investigations.

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Garland says DOJ has already turned over written transcripts of the same interviews the Republicans

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want with the special prosecutor, and that handing over audio could really make it harder

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for future prosecutors to interview people in the White House.

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He's also blasting attacks on the Justice Department, saying people are making false

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claims about DOJ being political when it's really the critics who are trying to put prosecutors

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in the middle of politics here.

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The attorney general took the unusual step of writing an opinion piece in the Washington

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Post this week.

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There he said disagreements about politics are totally normal, but lying and conspiracy

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theories are really not.

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The odds are low the Biden administration does not want to give them up.

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Media groups and conservative groups like the Heritage Foundation have sued to get access

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to the tapes, but the case is taking a long time to get through the court system.

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Right now, it seems unlikely the tapes would be released in time for them to show up in

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campaign ads or Republican fundraising pitches before the presidential election in November.

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That's NPR's Kerry Johnson.

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Thank you.

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My pleasure.

8Speaker 8
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Okay, it's time for a status check on inflation.

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Yeah, the Federal Reserve completes a meeting this afternoon, and the policymakers are expected

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to keep interest rates where they are, which is comparatively high.

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Okay, just in time for that Fed meeting, we also find out what happened with consumer

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prices in May.

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NPR's Scott Horsley has been tracking the Fed's campaign to curb inflation.

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He joins us now.

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Hey, Scott.

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Good morning.

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So, how is that campaign going?

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What's happening with prices?

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Lately, it has been slow going.

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Inflation did come down a lot last year after topping 9% back in 2022, but in recent months,

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that progress has kind of plateaued.

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The annual inflation rate in April was 3.4%.

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Forecasters think it was in that same ballpark in May.

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We have gotten lucky with gas prices lately.

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They're down about 14 cents a gallon from this time last year, so it is cheaper to gas

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up your car.

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But the cost to insure your car is still going up, and if you need a car loan, that's also

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expensive because of those high interest rates.

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Joe Bersuelas, who's chief economist at the big accounting firm RSM, thinks inflation

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will eventually moderate, but he says we're going to have to be patient.

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It's just going to be a slow grind in terms of how much inflation cools on a month-to-month

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basis back towards the long-term 2% target.

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And that means the Federal Reserve is going to take it slow and keep interest rates higher

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for longer until policymakers are more confident that prices are under control.

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So when are we going to catch a break on high interest rates?

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Yeah, that's what anybody who's trying to buy a house or finance a business or just

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carrying a balance on their credit card wants to know.

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And the answer is it's going to depend on what happens with inflation.

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If it does cool off during the summer, the Fed might be ready to start cutting interest

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rates in September.

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Investors think there's about a 50-50 chance of that.

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But if inflation remains elevated, it could take longer.

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A survey of Fed policymakers back in March found that, on average, they thought they'd

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get three quarter-point interest rate cuts this year.

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Now that looks like that might have been too optimistic.

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Maybe we'll only get two cuts, or maybe none at all by year's end.

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Fed policymakers will deliver some updated forecasts this afternoon of where they think

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interest rates are headed.

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And of course, that's going to be very closely watched.

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So as we all know, it's an election year.

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How is this affecting voters' attitudes about the economy?

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One thing we've learned is people really, really don't like inflation.

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Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal reported on some research that found people

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think a 1% jump in inflation is twice as bad as a 1% jump in unemployment.

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Now, if you're out of work, you might disagree with that assessment.

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But everybody's affected by rising prices, whether they're working or not.

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Economist Bruce Whalis thinks we will enjoy a further slowdown in inflation over the summer

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and early fall.

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But keep in mind, falling inflation just means prices level off.

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It doesn't mean they go back to where they used to be.

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By the time we get to Election Day, people are going to feel a lot better about inflation.

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But they're still going to be angry about the price shock and elevated financing costs.

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Those things are simply not going to go away.

4Speaker 4
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Luckily, we do have very low unemployment.

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And thanks to that tight labor market, we're still getting pretty good wage gains.

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Wages have been rising faster than prices for over a year now.

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So people's paychecks are stretching further.

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The only thing is, if wages keep going up and people keep spending that money, it makes

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it harder for the Fed to get inflation under control.

8Speaker 8
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That's NPR's Scott Horsley.

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Thanks, Scott.

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You're welcome.

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