ICJ Ruling, Border Deal Falling Apart, Biden Administration LNG Pause

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The U.N.'s top court will deliver its interim ruling on genocide charges brought against

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Israel.

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South Africa asked the judges for a provisional measure to stop Israel's military campaign

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in Gaza.

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But can any court decision be enforced?

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I'm A. Martinez, that's Leila Fadl, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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The Senate is close to a bipartisan deal pairing border security with Ukraine aid, but former

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President Trump is telling Republican lawmakers to reject it.

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And the Biden administration is tapping the brakes on natural gas exports.

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A lot has happened in the past decade since this program was created, and we need to have

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an even greater understanding.

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The Department of Energy is looking into whether new natural gas facilities are in the public's

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interest.

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So stay with us, we'll give you the news you need to start your day.

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Just moments ago, in a much-anticipated ruling, the U.N.'s top court in The Hague stopped

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short of ordering a ceasefire in Gaza, but demanded that Israel do more to contain the

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death and damage its military operation has wrought there.

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This provisional ruling is in response to a lawsuit brought by South Africa alleging

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that Israel's war in Gaza amounts to genocide against the Palestinian people.

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A definitive ruling on that question isn't likely to come for another few years.

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NPR's Lauren Freyer has been following this case from her base in London, and she joins

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me now.

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Good morning, Lauren.

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Hi, Leila.

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So tell us more about this ruling.

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So the president of the International Court of Justice, Joan Donahue, who is an American

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judge, read out statements from U.N. officials about Gaza's destruction, about the plight

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of Palestinian children there.

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She also read out quotes from Israeli officials about how their military operation in Gaza

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is not aimed at genocide, they claim.

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And then she read out parts of the Convention on Genocide that both Israel and South Africa,

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the plaintiff in this case, are signatories to.

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And then she said that the court orders Israel to, quote, take all measures within its power

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to prevent commissions of acts in this genocide convention.

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And she listed them.

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Here she is.

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A. Killing members of the group.

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B. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.

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C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical

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destruction in whole or in part.

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And the group that she's referring to there is the Palestinian people.

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Donahue said judges voted 15 to 2 on this.

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There are 17 judges on the court.

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The two dissenters were the one Israeli judge and another judge on the court.

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And what has Israel, if they've said anything yet, said about this ruling?

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Israel's lawyers were at the court taking notes.

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Presumably Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials have been watching

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this from afar.

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In testimony before the court two weeks ago, Israel's attorneys pushed back very hard at

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this genocide allegation, acknowledged that civilians in Gaza have suffered terribly,

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but insisted that civilians are not Israel's target in Gaza.

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And they say that the enemy is Hamas, which Israel accuses of using civilians as human

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shields, of embedding its fighters in schools and hospitals.

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One of Israel's attorneys two weeks ago in the court told the court that if the term

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genocide applies to anyone, it applies to Israel's foes, militants who have called for

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the destruction of Israel.

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Here he is.

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Israel is defending itself against Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and other terrorist

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organizations whose brutality knows no bounds.

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Attorneys for Israel listed in great detail efforts that Israel says it's made to warn

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civilians in Gaza before attacks and to get aid shipments into Gaza, although the U.N.

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and aid agencies that say have said it's not nearly enough.

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But today, basically, the court said it is plausible that Israel has committed acts of

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genocide, but that a final determination on that is still to come.

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OK, the court saying it is plausible, the court also saying that Israel needs to do

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more to contain the death and damage its military operation has wrought in Gaza.

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What happens now, though?

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I mean, is this order binding?

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Can it be enforced?

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So the president of the court, Joan Donahue, said, yes, this is legally binding.

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But in reality, it's pretty hard to enforce.

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I mean, Israel's prime minister has said specifically that this court will not stop him from his

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goal of destroying Hamas.

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There is precedent here.

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A 2019 case brought by the country of Gambia in West Africa sued Myanmar for alleged genocide

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against the Rohingya minority.

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The court ordered a similar emergency measure, urging Myanmar to do more, and Myanmar ignored

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it then.

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NPR's Lauren Frayer in London, thanks, Lauren.

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You're welcome.

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A high stakes will they or won't they is happening on Capitol Hill.

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Yeah, Senate negotiators say they're finalizing the details of a bipartisan agreement on immigration

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reform.

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But after months of negotiating, the potential deal could topple just before crossing the

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finish line as Republicans decide if they should defy former President Trump, who has

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demanded a hard line Republican solution at the border.

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NPR's Eric McDaniel is here in the studio and has the latest.

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Hey, Eric.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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So where does the deal stand?

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These talks have been going on a long time, but now negotiators say they're very close

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to some sort of bipartisan agreement on a proposal.

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That's notable, right?

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In and of itself.

5Speaker 5
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Yeah, I agree.

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So Republican Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma has been the chief Republican negotiator.

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Kirsten Sinema of Arizona, an independent former Democrat, has been involved.

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Democrat Chris Murphy of Connecticut is the point person for Democrats, and they have

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worked by all accounts pretty tirelessly on this since the fall, with preliminary talks

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happening as early as last spring.

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Murphy told me yesterday that the policies here, what's involved, is basically decided.

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Now they're dealing with dollar amounts and finalizing text.

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And part of the reason we're seeing a bipartisan framework here, bipartisan negotiations at

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all, is, well, the same reason we usually see them in Congress, which is a consensus

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that the problem's now too big to ignore.

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There are an all-time record number of people presenting themselves to border protection

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agents, often more than 10,000 a day, to put in asylum claims, and the system just isn't

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set up to deal with that as it stands.

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It's worth remembering that Republicans also told Biden that the only way to get a deal

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on Ukraine aid, something that's important to him, Israel aid, was to address the crisis

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at the U.S. border with Mexico.

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Biden agreed to that, which is how all of this got linked together.

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And there are also political reasons, though, to link these issues, right?

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Right.

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It's a pretty common strategy in Congress to link things together that people feel strongly

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about.

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That way, if you're a lawmaker, maybe you can overlook your hang-up about some details

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or policies that you care less about in order to get the whole package through.

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Right.

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Now, there is some uneasiness on the part of Republicans.

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Right.

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It was a little, kind of, folks were on tenterhooks yesterday on the Hill, and I think we'll

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have to wait and see where things end up on Wednesday.

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate, acknowledged

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in a closed-door meeting with his Republican colleagues that this could be a politically

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hard vote.

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He supports the deal, but GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has said he opposes

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it.

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And in the House, where this was always going to be, sort of, a long shot just because of

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the dynamics in that chamber, there are immigration hardliners, much like Trump himself, for whom

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any deal with Democrats won't go far enough.

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You know, it's just not worthwhile.

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And with a narrow majority, they don't want to risk opposing Trump, which is a bit like

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kicking a hornet's nest for a Republican lawmaker.

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Say he backed a primary challenge or somehow otherwise opposed you, and they might not

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want to send it through.

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So we're in this weird position.

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Republicans want to see the text of the deal, whether they're going to take a policy win,

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i.e. securing the border, and risk a potential Biden political win, credit for that deal,

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taking action on immigration reform.

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It's all in open question.

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Many Republicans really do earnestly want to see something like this get through, want

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to send money to Ukraine, but as ever, there are other political concerns involved.

2Speaker 2
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Okay, so what's next?

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When's this going to be a deal, if it's going to be a deal?

5Speaker 5
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Well, we have to wait for the text.

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Kyrsten Sinema told reporters yesterday, in a rare gaggle, that we could see this as early

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as next week.

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We want to see what the reforms are, to see whether Republicans react positively to it

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once they've actually seen the policy, and to see if there are defections from the left.

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This thing needs 60 votes in all to pass the Senate.

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All right.

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NPR congressional reporter Eric McDaniel.

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Thanks, Eric.

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Yeah, my pleasure.

2Speaker 2
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The Biden administration announced today that it will pause approval of new natural gas

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export facilities.

4Speaker 4
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That's so the Department of Energy can review whether these plants are in the public's interest,

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especially given their outsized contribution to climate change.

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The decision comes as Louisiana has been moving forward with what would be the country's largest

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natural gas export terminal.

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Hallie Parker with member station WWNO in New Orleans joins us to discuss this.

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Hi, Hallie.

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Hey, Layla.

2Speaker 2
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So how big of a decision is this?

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Well, I would say it's huge.

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Over the past few years, there's been this massive, rapid buildout of new natural gas

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terminals in the US, so much so that the US is now the world's largest exporter of gas.

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The projects that are being built right now could almost double US export capacity by

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the end of the decade, even without the 17 other proposals that are in front of the Energy

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Department.

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Here in Louisiana, we've really been ground zero for this expansion that the gas industry

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is proposing.

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Well, us in Texas.

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And this decision would start to slow that development down.

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On a call yesterday with reporters, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm put it this way.

2Speaker 2
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A lot has happened in the past decade since this program was created, and we need to have

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an even greater understanding.

3Speaker 3
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So this pause gives the Biden administration a chance to review what the impacts of this

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buildout have been, whether that's economically, on public health, and also when it comes to

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addressing planet warming emissions that cause climate change.

2Speaker 2
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And how is the gas industry responding to the pause?

3Speaker 3
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Well, you could say they're up in arms.

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Industry groups argue this decision could hurt relationships with allies like Europe

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that started importing more gas from the US after the Ukraine war began.

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They're framing this as Europe needs this gas to survive, and industry groups say this

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flies in the face of Biden's promises back in 2022 when he pledged to supply countries.

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But I will say that's not entirely true.

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Numerous studies and senior administration officials say the pipeline of projects that

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are already underway are enough to meet those energy needs.

2Speaker 2
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Now, climate activists are applauding this decision.

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What are you hearing in Louisiana?

3Speaker 3
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Well, this kind of pressure has been building for months as national environmental groups

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have ramped up their own campaigns against this expansion for natural gas exports.

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Just last week, I was at a protest in New Orleans and hundreds of people from fishermen

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and climate activists across the Gulf Coast came together.

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People like Rochetta Ozein, who's been opposing this project for years.

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She says this decision signals the Biden administration is finally listening and the president is

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delivering exactly what they've asked for.

1Speaker 1
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There's still some big things that we're working on, but in this moment, we are celebrating.

3Speaker 3
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We're breathing a little easier.

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Yeah.

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Ozein says they're playing a long game and they're going to look to ensure that the people

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that are most affected by these plans are included in the Department of Energy's review.

2Speaker 2
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So this is a pause.

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I mean, how long does this go on?

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What happens next?

3Speaker 3
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Yeah.

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So the Energy Department is going to start this review of the proposed natural gas export

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projects, but senior administration officials say it's not clear how long this review will

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take.

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The pause is going to last as long as the review takes, but it will likely go through

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November and the election.

2Speaker 2
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That's Hallie Parker with Member Station WWNO.

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Thanks, Hallie.

3Speaker 3
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Thanks, Layla.

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