Armchair Anonymous: Valentine's Day Disaster

2024-02-16 00:59:00

Hi, I’m Dax Shepard, and I love talking to people. I am endlessly fascinated by the messiness of being human, and I find people who are vulnerable and honest about their struggles and shortcomings to be incredibly sexy. I invite you to join me as I explore other people’s stories. We will celebrate, above all, the challenges and setbacks that ultimately lead to growth and betterment. What qualifies me for such an endeavor? More than a decade of sobriety, a degree in Anthropology and four years of improv training. I will attempt to discover human “truths” without any laboratory work, clinical trials or data collection. I will be, in the great tradition of 16th-century scientists, an Armchair Expert.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Mrs. Mouse.

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Happy Valentine's Day a couple days ago.

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Happy Valentine's Day a couple days ago. This is the Valentine's Day disaster episode.

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Yeah, this is a fun one.

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It really is fun. And if you listened yesterday, we already said congrats on six years. We'll

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say it again.

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Congrats on six years.

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Congrats on six years.

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We have housekeeping.

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Oh, yes.

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Yes.

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So, in this episode, we mention Liz a couple times. We say, oh, it's scary, like Liz.

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Yeah, and you scream.

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Yeah.

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That's why I always say it.

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And you say, Liz, ah.

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Ah.

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It's a pop out every time I say it. Liz.

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It is. And then I say in it, we got to explain Liz. And then you say, we're going to. And

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then we forget.

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Okay.

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So, we've talked about this before. Some of the armchairs will know, but some won't. And

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the ones who don't will definitely think we're talking about Liz Plank, and we're not.

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We're not talking about Liz Plank. If you're an OA, you know this.

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Yeah.

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But Monica and I were one time watching a Dateline, and there was a scary woman, Liz,

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who was a murderer. And then Monica got back to her apartment.

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No.

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Okay.

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This is one of those fun moments where our memories are different.

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Okay. I think they might work together, but go ahead.

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I didn't go back to my apartment. It was COVID. And Anna, me, and you were watching Dateline.

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We all lived together at your house during COVID.

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And it was when you had broken your arm, or your hand, whatever you'd broken.

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Who knows that day?

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So, you were in the guest bedroom. Anna was in the kids' bedroom. Kristen had COVID. She

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didn't, but we thought she had COVID.

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Oh, it was on that night?

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Yes.

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There was a bunch of food at the end of the hallway?

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She thought she had COVID, so she was sequestered.

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What comedy was happening? This is like Three's Company.

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Yeah. The three of us put on this Dateline. We didn't even know Anna that well at the

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time, too, which is also weird and funny. Scary, scary lady named Liz.

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Yeah.

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She was evil, and she popped out, and she had a dog. There was a dog in this episode

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that looked exactly like Frank, your dog.

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Right. And you became concerned it was the same dog.

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Yes, because Frank is a rescue.

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And Liz is MIA.

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Exactly. And so, we watched this episode. I'm getting very worked up internally about

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my fears, and then I am sleeping on the couch in the movie room, and I go in there, and

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I hear her.

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Liz.

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She knocked. She knocked, and I freaked out, and then I texted you and Anna, and I said,

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help, it's scary out here. And then you both slowly came out.

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To clear the room for Liz?

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Yeah.

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I have a totally different memory, but I don't think it's either or. I totally believe that

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that was the full rollout of Liz. But I remember you going back to your apartment. I remember

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you being at your apartment and texting, I'm super scared. I heard a noise outside. And

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I said, I know, it's Liz. And then you said, no, don't say Liz. And I said, she's out there,

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Liz. I know there was a moment where you were scared in your apartment, and I kept telling

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you it was Liz.

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Are you sure it wasn't just me being scared in the room? It might have been that. Because

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I heard a knock or a weird sound.

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I remember me introducing the notion that Liz was at your apartment. You already thought

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it was Liz in the living room version.

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God.

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I think they both happened.

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I wish we could burp. I really do.

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Because you were afraid of Liz for months.

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I'm still afraid of her.

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Right. And so many times over the last four years, I have tried to scare you that Liz

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is outside your apartment.

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Yeah.

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She comes around.

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She's a nasty lady.

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Ugh. Anyway, so when we say that, we say it in that tone. It's not, I don't want people

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to think.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's all complicated.

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Liz Plank. Not Liz Plank.

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We love Liz Plank. We don't like Liz Frank.

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Oh, Liz and Frank.

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Liz Frank and Liz Plank? What if Liz Plank is Liz Frank?

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With a haircut?

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Because she just kind of showed up after we-

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So now I guess we're reversing our position.

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We're reversing our position. In fact, it is about Liz Plank. That's what you should

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know. I'm glad we did this.

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Oh my God.

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We landed right where-

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Fuck.

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It's the modest mouse lair.

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I was supposed to hang out with her this week.

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If you go straight long enough, you'll end up right where you were. Oh God, you better

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bring a weapon.

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To dinner, yeah.

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I know what you could do. Bring Frank and see if he runs to her and feels reunited.

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Okay, that's a good idea.

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Okay, perfect.

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We got a test. Please enjoy Valentine's Disasters.

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Hard times come and go.

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Good times take them slow.

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My life, I had them both.

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If ever one thing you gotta know, I'ma keep on shining.

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All right, we ready for-

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Emma.

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Valentine's Day with Emma.

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Valentine's.

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Oh, Valentine's.

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Love day.

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Valentine.

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Massacre.

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Blood.

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Death.

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Destruction.

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Switch our anniversary.

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It's our anniversary.

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It's our anniversary.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Oh, and are you English?

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No, I'm from New Zealand.

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Oh, kiwi.

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Because you immediately reminded me of the actress in the original Office. Just like

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when I first saw your face.

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Oh, that's funny. My husband will like that. He loves her.

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He loves The Office.

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She's so lovable.

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Emma, you're calling from New Zealand?

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Oh, no. What time is it?

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It's okay. It's like 7.30 in the morning, but it's tomorrow.

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I love this. I always ask David this, like, what happens today? What happens on Thursday? Is it a good day?

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Friday. What happens on Friday?

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Well, no, it's 7.30 in the morning Friday.

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So she's already done Thursday.

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So I'm wondering what happened on Thursday.

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That makes perfect sense. My apologies.

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Was it a good day?

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Yeah, it's a great day.

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Okay, good, good, good, good, good, good.

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I guess I wouldn't have even assumed you guys celebrate Valentine's Day.

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I don't even know if that's, like, an internationally recognized event.

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Is it big in New Zealand?

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It's definitely not as big as it is in America.

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We still celebrate it. It's still a thing.

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Like, jewelry stores still have sales and stuff.

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But it's the same as Halloween, and nothing's as big as it is in America.

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Yeah, sorry for that. Except for Guy Fawkes Day.

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I've been in New Zealand for Guy Fawkes Day, and that was spectacular.

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Yeah, we do love that.

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All right, so you have a Valentine's Day disaster, which we cannot wait to hear.

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So this happened in 2009.

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I was 16.

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So the day was February 14th.

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It was Valentine's Day, which happened to be a Saturday night that year.

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And my boyfriend Lucas and I, we were going to a high school house party.

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It's like someone's birthday.

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My mom had agreed that she'd drop us off and pick us up,

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and Lucas could stay the night,

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but strictly in separate rooms.

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Oh, this is very exciting, though.

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I want to applaud your mother's progressiveness.

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Yeah.

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We'd been dating for three months, and we'd gotten pretty hot and heavy,

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but we'd never had sex.

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Neither of us had ever had sex.

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So we decided it's Valentine's Day.

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This is the perfect opportunity to lose our virginities.

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All we had to do was come home from this party,

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wait until my mom went to sleep,

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and then he would sneak up to my room.

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Oh, yeah.

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Sexy.

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Yeah, here we go.

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So we had a plan in place.

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We were excited, a bit nervous,

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but we both were pretty ready for it.

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So random bit of backstory.

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In New Zealand at the time,

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there were these popular RTD drinks that I won't name,

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but they were always a standard 5% alcohol, like a beer.

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Around this time in 2009,

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they'd released this 8% can in a 12-pack,

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which is stronger than wine, but really easy to drink.

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Also, I feel like I should say in New Zealand,

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the drinking age is 18,

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so it's a bit more normal for us to be

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having a supervised party at 16.

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Yeah.

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My mom, bless her, she'd never drunk these before.

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So when she went out and bought us a couple,

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and she didn't notice the change in strength

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or the change in packaging,

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so she just grabbed the first thing she saw,

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which was a big 12-pack.

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She dropped us off at this party.

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She gave us the entire 12-pack and said,

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okay, have fun, stick to two each.

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You shouldn't say stick to two each and then give 12.

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It's kind of confusing.

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She was testing you.

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Yeah, I think so.

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I failed.

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So we got there.

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We were having fun.

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I felt like I looked good.

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Everything was going well,

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but about an hour in,

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I was starting to get really nervous.

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Like, I'm going to have sex tonight.

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Everything is going through my head.

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What if it doesn't work?

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Like, what if I suck at it?

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What if he sucks at it?

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What if he's not the one?

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What if he doesn't like these drinks?

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Which is obviously the worst thing that I could have done.

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Can I ask really quick,

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did you know they were a higher alcohol content

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or was that realized later?

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I feel like I probably did

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and was just like, score, let's not tell mom.

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Got it, got it.

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So I cut to a bit later.

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I'm having a good time.

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I find Lucas and he's figured out at this point

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that I'm about six drinks deep

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and I'm absolutely toasted.

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I'm really, really drunk.

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So I tell him he must come to the bathroom with me.

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We try and head inside

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but there's a big line to the bathroom

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and there's just no way I'm going to make it.

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This house had a pretty big property

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and it had a big bank

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going down the side of the driveway

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with like a small wooden area

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and I decided, yes, wooded area,

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perfect spot for an outdoor evening bushwee.

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I love it.

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We're going there.

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I dragged Lucas across this property

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over to the spot

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and I'm like, okay, just wait there.

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I'll go behind this tree and pee.

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He's there waiting for me,

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keeping a lookout

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while I was trying to drunkenly

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keep myself upright,

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squatting in a bush.

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Then I heard this weird noise

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and I was like,

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who's mowing their lawns right now?

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It's dark, it's late.

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That's such a crazy thing to be doing

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and then I was still peeing in this bush

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and I felt a bit of pain

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and I was like, oh no,

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I'm swaying so badly

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that I've fallen over

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Oh boy, okay.

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Wait for it, Monica,

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but then two things happened at once.

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The pain that I felt

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suddenly went from zero to a hundred,

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like one prickle to a thousand prickles.

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It was agony.

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At the same time,

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Lucas starts screaming.

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He just starts yelling

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and yelling for me to run

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while he himself is just sprinting

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down this hill away from me

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and that's when I realized

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I'm squatting and peeing

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Oh no, no, no.

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Yeah.

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And I was there for way too long.

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Once I realized,

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I pulled up my underwear

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and I sprinted back to this house

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and I was like instantly sober from the pain

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and I got our friend's parents

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to call my mum.

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I was distraught

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and I just sat there and cried.

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Oh my God.

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My mum picked us up

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and took us back.

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We got home and I was in so much pain.

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My mum just thought that I'd had a wasp sting

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or a bee sting

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and she was like,

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you're being a wuss, let me look.

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And I don't know if you were the same at 16

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but it took me a lot to get everything off

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and let her have a look.

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Oh sure, yeah, no way.

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I was justified though

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when she looked at it

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and all she said was,

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oh my God, get in the car,

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we're going to the hospital.

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Oh no.

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Wow, wow, wow, wow.

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It turns out that probably

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because I was so drunk

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and I'd squatted there for so long

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without realising what was happening

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that I had been stung.

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I was red and swollen

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right from the back of my thighs,

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all up my butt cheeks,

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in my butt cracks

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and all over my lady bits.

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I got the vulva, the majora,

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the menorah, all of it.

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Fuck, fuck, fuck.

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Ow.

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Were you able to

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get a good look at it?

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Did they give you a mirror or anything?

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I should have.

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I think I was just too upset.

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Did you reach down and feel it?

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And I know baseball's not a big game in your country

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but I just imagine it might have turned into

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like a catcher's match.

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I was really swollen.

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Peeing was not fun for a few days after that.

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It was pretty bad.

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I'm so glad you're still with us.

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You could have migraled and died.

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Sure.

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Because of the shock.

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I know.

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That's why, because there were so many stings.

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It was like hundreds.

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My mum took me to the emergency room

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and I had to spend the night there

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making sure I didn't go into

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anaphylactic shock and die.

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Luckily I was fine, obviously,

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but it is safe to say that

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I didn't get to have sex that night.

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Valentine's Day was officially ruined.

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Did you end up staying with that guy

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long enough to finally do it?

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Eventually, yeah.

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Once everything returned to a healthy status quo.

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Returned to a normal size, yeah.

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Holy cow.

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Was it itchy as hell?

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Because when I've been stung

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and it gets red like that with the histamines,

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it gets itchy.

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Healing was a bitch as well.

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It was so itchy and I still actually

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have scars from it.

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Yeah, I'm sure.

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Really?

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Oh my God.

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What a disaster.

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That is a textbook disaster.

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I was assuming there'd be some

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mix-up with the transfer

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from the boy to the room

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in the middle of the night.

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Maybe he went into mom's room on accident.

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Yeah, it was almost a red herring

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that you were drunk.

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I mean, I understand it's what got you

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in this position in the first place,

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but yeah, I thought it was gonna be

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like a messy hookup,

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but this is way worse and way better.

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Yeah, I thought that would throw you.

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What a story.

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Thank you.

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Emma, I'm so glad you lived to tell the tale.

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That is gnarly.

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Thank you so much for having me, guys.

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It was really nice to meet you both.

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We're so flattered you're listening

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down in New Zealand.

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We're not too esoteric,

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you're getting everything?

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Do you ever feel like,

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I don't know what the fuck

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they're talking about?

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No, we love you.

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You guys don't know this,

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but we've been friends for like

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four or five years by now.

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Oh, good.

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That's so lovely.

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Well, we're gonna come down,

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because we're gonna join

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David Ferrier at some point.

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Oh, please do.

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Well, nice meeting you, Emma.

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Thank you so much for telling us that.

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Bye, guys.

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Bye.

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So you, I was in therapy

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to bring everyone in.

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I was in therapy,

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and then all of a sudden,

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I heard the door,

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someone was opening the door,

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because I do my therapy inside the attic.

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I had to put my pants back on in a hurry.

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He insists that I have them off

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for vulnerability's sake.

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The door was locked, thank God.

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Good idea.

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Yeah, and then I peeked out the window

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to see who had just tried to barge in.

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My assumption is you and Rob know

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that it's therapy.

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I mean, I guess in theory I know,

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but not really.

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It's not on my calendar or anything.

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It's locked.

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And then I like went,

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I got my key out.

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I didn't even know if I had a key,

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but I had a key.

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I was glad I had a key.

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Okay.

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I started putting it in,

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and then I could hear like a ting.

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I didn't hear what you said.

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I just heard like the tone of your voice.

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Monica, Monica.

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Oh, I'm definitely coming in now.

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No, but I was like, oh, fuck.

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I was like, oh, yes, therapy.

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Oh, no, because I was trying

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to be a very good employee.

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Okay.

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I had a work meeting with Spotify,

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and then we had this,

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Armchair Anonymous,

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and they were back to back.

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Back to back.

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And I thought, oh, no,

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I can't be late to Armchair Anonymous.

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Everyone will be upset,

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so I'll go early,

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and then I'll do it here.

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I'll be ready.

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And then that was sometimes

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the best laid plans, you know?

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And I am of mice,

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and you're of men.

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This is very true.

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So then I signed off.

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I was right at the end.

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Then I quickly peeked out the window

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to see who it was,

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and I saw you walking,

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or what I thought was you walking.

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You saw a scurry?

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I saw a scurry,

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and then I text you,

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hey, I was in therapy.

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I was really mad.

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The door was locked,

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and she went home,

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and now she won't respond to me?

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She's angry.

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Also, did you see me?

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Because when I went to the guest house,

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I was closing the door,

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and you were coming out of the attic,

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which then I was like,

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oh, should I just go, whatever.

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I scanned the driveway first,

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and then I scanned the yard,

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because you sometimes will sit out by the-

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Right.

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And then you were just gone.

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You were an apparition.

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I thought you saw that I was in the guest house,

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and then you kept walking,

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so then I thought maybe you were mad.

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Oh, interesting.

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A lot of baggage.

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A lot of baggage.

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A lot of scars.

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Okay, let's go to Jackson.

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Hello.

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Oh my God, Jackson,

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you're wearing a shirt as a hat.

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This is the first time I've ever seen this.

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