Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)

2024-01-22 01:54:11

Hi, I’m Dax Shepard, and I love talking to people. I am endlessly fascinated by the messiness of being human, and I find people who are vulnerable and honest about their struggles and shortcomings to be incredibly sexy. I invite you to join me as I explore other people’s stories. We will celebrate, above all, the challenges and setbacks that ultimately lead to growth and betterment. What qualifies me for such an endeavor? More than a decade of sobriety, a degree in Anthropology and four years of improv training. I will attempt to discover human “truths” without any laboratory work, clinical trials or data collection. I will be, in the great tradition of 16th-century scientists, an Armchair Expert.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert! I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Dave Padman.

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Hello.

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We have an incredible guest today.

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Do you think my name would be Dave if I was a boy?

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Ooh. No, it'd be Neil if you were a boy. That's already been proven by the fact that your kids-

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That's too easy.

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Okay, so back up to Neil.

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I think your name would be Samantha.

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Ew.

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Well, I love that!

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Well, no, I know it's the best name in the world.

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People would call you Sam!

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If I was a gal, that's not what's being asked, but if I was a gal, what name would I want?

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Lincoln, obviously. I gave it to my daughter.

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You're just going through the people we already know.

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No, obviously. Oh, pardon.

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Obviously, my favorite name for a girl is Lincoln. That's why I gave it-

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That's why you did it.

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Yeah.

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But it can't be your favorite. It's who you are.

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Bernadette. And you'd call me Bernie.

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Oh. No, you're not a Bernie.

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All right, well.

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See, you have probably the association of Sex and the City with Samantha.

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Oh, I didn't even think about that.

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But don't you think it's in there, deep recesses of your-

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That's exactly where I went.

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You did too.

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That's a male thing that you guys think that.

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I don't. I think of Samantha as, it's like a beautiful name, often shortened to Sam, which is like playful.

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Playful, fun.

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Yeah.

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Cat and Sam.

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Yeah.

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Okay, so our guest today, you probably, well, there's many different ways you might know him.

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You might know him as Lil Dicky, his rap name.

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Yes.

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And you might just know him as Dave from his incredible show on FX.

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Yep.

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But his name is Dave Bird.

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Yeah.

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And there is a funny little thing that happens that we'll address immediately into this episode.

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But Dave is a rapper, a comedian, and an actor.

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And his show is called Dave.

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His past album, Professional Rapper, was hugely successful.

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Well, he has some videos that have 750 million views.

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Crazy.

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Which is mind-boggling.

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But he has a new album out that took me the entire episode to finally learn how to pronounce.

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But alas, I can do it.

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Peanuth.

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You did it.

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Which is the Dave soundtrack.

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He's had numerous songs on the show Dave, and he's whittled that down to his favorites,

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and is releasing them as a full album called Peanuth.

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Please enjoy Dave Bird.

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He's an armchair experiment.

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He's an armchair experiment.

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He's an armchair experiment.

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Hey guys.

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Where are you coming from?

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Venice.

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Do you got a squirt?

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Squirt?

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Go pee-pee?

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No, but I am thirsty.

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Yeah, so we've got all kinds of options for you.

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We've got different kinds of water.

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We've got honey beer.

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We've got a diet coke.

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We have coffee.

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We have spearmint tea.

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We have a really nice olive oil.

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All right, I have all the fluids.

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You came all the way from Venice and you don't have to go pee, but okay.

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And that scares me.

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We can always stop.

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We can stop, yeah.

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There's just no door on it, so generally we allow the guests to...

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To the bathroom?

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Yeah.

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So what if I said I had to pee?

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You'd all leave?

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Yeah, we would leave.

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Unless we were invited to stay.

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Do you have the same thing I had when I was a young man?

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Where it's like if I was at someone's house and there were girls with an earshot of the

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bathroom, I really hope my pee sounded really thunderous when it hit the toilet.

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I haven't thought about that, but I believe in that line of thinking.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, then I have to ask you the big question about peeing.

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Sit down.

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We need to get this all on film.

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You guys don't have a blanket.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, there's one behind you, or you can use this quilt of our faces.

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It's not that comfortable.

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Why is it colder in here than it is outside?

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I know, it's freezing in here.

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No, you can.

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It's freezing in here.

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Listen, you're too young to have gotten to do Letterman, so let this be your cold experience.

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Because the Ed Sullivan Theater, when he was there, was famously 59 degrees.

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Why do they do that?

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He likes it crisp.

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It makes him sharper.

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You can relate to that, right?

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It's never like when it's sweltering, you're fucking popping sharp ideas.

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No.

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I'm already going to go down that way.

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Or greasy.

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Right.

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When I'm cold, I'm less greasy.

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Well, at the Golden Globes, everyone was freezing because it was so windy, and on the red carpet,

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people were not sharper.

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I'll just say that.

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Oh, they weren't.

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They were flying past sharpness.

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They were in pain.

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You can be too cold.

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Yeah.

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Well, then that kind of veers into maybe high-altitude sickness, kind of oxygen deprivation,

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not thinking clearly as you're freezing to death.

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Wind.

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If there was any sort of fan on, I wouldn't be able to do this.

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You wouldn't.

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No.

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If I felt the wind graze me.

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Because it would distract you.

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I don't like the feeling.

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When I'm cold.

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Yeah.

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When I'm hot, it's a nice feeling.

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It's a breeze.

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Is this the right distance?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You sound great.

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Okay, wait, the question.

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The big question.

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The big question.

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Because we were talking about peeing, and my friend Liz and I have a question about

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men peeing outside.

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You know where she's going with this?

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I do, yeah.

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Because he's been asked.

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Oh, okay.

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Two questions.

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One about men peeing outside, and I wanted to know if that was American.

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You know how men just pee a lot outside?

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So we were talking to some British and Australian people.

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They said it's less so there.

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Well, we agree there's less privacy there.

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Are you talking about people in London?

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If you ask people in New York City if they pee outside, no one's peeing outside.

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People in the yards pee outside, I think.

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Yeah, but they're at a barbecue, and then they just go in the corner and pee.

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It's still in front of everyone.

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It's definitely a cultural thing.

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But also, when you have friends over or girls over.

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Hold on now.

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Can he answer that part about the peeing?

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What's the question?

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Do you pee outside a lot?

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I know that's more of an experiment.

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It was probably, do you pee outside a lot?

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Do you pee outside a lot?

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Yeah, I don't know what a lot means.

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Like at a barbecue, would you do that?

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Well, especially if it was a nighttime barbecue.

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But I feel like there are plenty of times that I've noticed in the past decade

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where I'm at a gathering, we're outside, and I ask the homeowner,

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I say, can I go pee anywhere out here?

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It feels weirdly more respectful, doesn't it, to keep pissing in the toilet?

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I don't want to go inside.

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Other guests will be like, why don't you just use the toilet?

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I like peeing in mulch.

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You do?

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You like the sensation?

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Because it dampens the sound when it hits?

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It's not transcendently better than peeing inside.

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I just don't like inefficient movement.

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Yeah.

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So why walk more?

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I'm already out there.

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It's just pee.

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I wouldn't shit out there.

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Well, in a pinch you would.

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If you had.

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But I think it's considerate because I'm neurotic about my plumbing.

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Even though it's new, I'm like, I don't love the idea of having a party

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and the toilet flushes every nine minutes.

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I think something's going to break.

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I've never even thought about plumbing.

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You haven't?

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Not once in my life.

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It's the first time I've ever thought about plumbing.

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Did you grow up with a septic tank or on city sewage?

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No idea.

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I never even thought about it.

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Functional toilet, for sure.

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Okay.

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One of the key ways I would not get my allowance as a child was

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I used to always forget to flush.

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My parents, they said, that's how we knew you had ADD.

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It's also a kid thing.

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I have two daughters.

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They don't have ADD, and I find shits in the toilet nonstop.

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I'm like, of all things you could remember, you just did.

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It's take a dump.

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Is there at least toilet paper?

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They're remembering to wipe?

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Well, listen, yes, at this age.

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But trust me, early on, first thing I'd be like, fuck, you didn't flush.

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And I'm like, side note, where's the toilet paper?

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You got to get back in here and wipe.

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Because that's a little kid thing to do, too, to forget.

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Child entitlement.

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There's a lot of that in this world.

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Okay, wait.

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The second part of the question is if you have a girl over,

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do you pee with the door open?

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Within the first three dates, would you pee with the door open ever?

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No.

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Just because I know social etiquette would say that's kind of inappropriate.

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Exactly.

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I wouldn't be uncomfortable, but it's not worth it.

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I don't care enough.

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I would just close the door.

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Okay.

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I like that.

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But back to your original claim that you hate inefficient movements,

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that certainly is an extraneous thing to open and close a door.

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That's true.

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Keep me straight.

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Love 15.

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Do you live in Venice?

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I do, but I just got a new house.

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I'm moving.

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Where are you moving to?

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Studio City.

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Okay, perfect.

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So you're coming this way.

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Yeah.

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I've always lived on the west side of LA since I've lived here.

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Santa Monica, Venice area.

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How many years?

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2014, so 10.

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So I lived in Santa Monica.

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First 10 years I lived here.

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Had no idea what was happening.

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That's where I landed and I stayed.

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Yeah, kind of similar.

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And then I found a house just a thousand feet that way.

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And then I moved here and I was like, what was I doing there for 10 years?

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I didn't even look around.

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I like this so much more.

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Why?

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Just so I know.

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Well, Santa Monica.

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Now Venice is different.

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But I lived in Santa Monica for like five of the 10 years.

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Right.

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And by the way, it's gotten better since you've lived there than when I was there in 95 to 05.

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Sure.

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Which is no young people, no good restaurants, no pop-up stuff, no vibe.

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This is like East Village.

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Santa Monica lacks a vibe.

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It does.

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But Venice is really vibey.

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Maybe too vibey.

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Maybe, but I've never been to like South America, but I just imagine that's what it feels like.

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When I walk around Venice, it feels like I'm in a different land.

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It doesn't feel like LA.

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I find a lot of LA, even though it's beautiful weather, I just find a lot of it to be unsightly.

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Like I don't want to live in West Hollywood.

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So Venice is really charming.

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Now the plots of land in Venice.

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They're like 7,000 square feet.

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You can't really expand.

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I don't have the yard to pee in.

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I'm peeing in potted plants.

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Exactly.

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You have to go to the actual toilet.

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It's so embarrassing.

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Okay, well that's going to be great Studio City because you've got-

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We love Studio City.

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The lodge.

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Sportsman's Lodge.

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I live near that lodge.

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Oh, it's wonderful.

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I can walk to that lodge.

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I'll tell you, the thing that I am the least good at in life is geography, sense of direction,

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knowing where things are.

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You could plot me down in my hometown of Cheltenham, Pennsylvania.

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If I didn't have a GPS, I would just be sleeping in my car.

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Even if I'm like eight minute drive away from my home.

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I have no idea where anything is.

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I know that where I live is the West because it's close to the water.

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Other than that, I don't know where Pasadena is compared to West Hollywood.

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I know Silver Lake is like right, more towards the interior of America.

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East and West and North and South are a little confusing here because you're on the one-on-one

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going North and South and then all of a sudden you're going East and West.

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I don't know anything about highways.

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I Uber everywhere.

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Oh, you do?

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Yeah.

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Do you own a car?

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I do.

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It's a waste of money.

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I'm not a good driver.

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Because of the direction thing?

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Maybe.

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I mean, if there is a correlation between spatial-

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I actually thrived in school in every subject except geometry.

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Could not succeed.

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I had a tutor two times a week.

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Poured my heart into geometry and the best I could do was get a C.

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I was getting A's everywhere else.

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Right.

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Well, you were a summa cum laude.

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Yeah.

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Spatial recognition is not my-

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If you're like moving a table into a room, I cannot help navigate how the doorway-

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I'm the same.

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Yeah.

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I don't have any of that.

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You have a ton of that.

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You guys would be fucked if you lived together.

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You'd have to invite a third person into the marriage to handle these things.

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Luckily, there's AI and tech that handles all of this for us.

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It's the right time for us.

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It might be.

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I guess you could maybe get through.

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I've yet to see the AI model that moves a couch into a room.

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I have a huge fear of just maps and the GPS system just going down one day.

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Of course.

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And what I would do.

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There's no way I could get in a car from here without maps and get home.

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Yeah.

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I would have to sleep at a hotel.

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You might not ever get home.

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Until the maps were restored.

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Okay.

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Can I tell you the most embarrassing thing?

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It's an embarrassment for me.

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Yeah.

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I was looking at the schedule.

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I know you as Dave.

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I know you as Lil Dicky.

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And I didn't know your last name.

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Bird.

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So in my schedule for the last week, I've been seeing Dave Bird.

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And for me, we do experts, right?

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We do professors.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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You thought it was a physicist.

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I did.

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All last night, I'm like, I got to get on that pretty early tomorrow because it's probably

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some topic I don't know a ton about.

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That's funny.

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And then when I realized it was you, I was elated.

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I sent both of them a text just cheering for joy.

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I was so happy that it was you.

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I'm happy that it worked out.

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I mean, I love Dave so much.

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Thank you.

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We have the same affinity for Brad Pitt.

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I've dedicated most of my life to worshiping him.

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Have you met him?

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Yeah.

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He's better than you imagine.

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Really?

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Tell us.

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Takes your breath away.

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When he walks on set, I'm not kidding.

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Like literally, he takes my breath away.

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Walks around with such a sense of purpose.

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He treats everyone so well, but he does it in a cool way.

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Yeah.

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He's not placating.

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No, he's just like cool.

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No pandering.

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No.

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Yeah, it's legit.

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It's so legit.

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Yeah, the circle in which I met him,

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what I noticed is that he almost instinctually

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spent the most amount of time learning the names

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of the people that were on paper lowest status.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, this is a very cool move.

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He was really inspiring.

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I can't say enough good things about the man.

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And we're going to get to how on earth that ended up coming.

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Yeah.

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But I like everyone else.

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I just fucking love the show so much.

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Thank you.

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It's just so incredible.

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I appreciate it.

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I'm just tickled to get to hear your story.

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Nor did I know it.

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I'm kind of embarrassed as well.

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It's good.

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Isn't that better?

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Well, it is for me because now it's exciting

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and I'm not regurgitating shit I knew a long time ago.

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But you already mentioned Pennsylvania,

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a suburb of Philadelphia.

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Yep, Cheltenham.

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What did mom and dad do?

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My mom is a therapist.

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Wonderful.

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Yep.

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My dad is a teacher.

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What variety?

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Business administration.

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My childhood, he had two jobs.

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One, he was doing pension plan stuff,

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and then he transitioned into teaching.

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Does he manage your money for you?

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He doesn't manage it, but he's certainly looped in.

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Okay, good, good, good.

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That's nice.

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He's aware.

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That's Monica's dad.

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Yeah.

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He's not the business manager, but he's all over it.

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He has to know everything.

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Yeah, how could he not?

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Because he was the business manager

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until you got a business manager.

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Is that fair to say?

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He was doing your taxes and stuff.

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Well, I don't like to look at my finances.

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Me neither.

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It's overwhelming.

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It's like geometry.

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It's like I can't understand it,

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so I just have to ignore it.

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And then when you have a dad,

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they're like, you can't ignore it.

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Oh, yeah.

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And so they take that on.

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And you guys are virtually the same age, so.

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Oh, wow.

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I'm inclined for anything you guys agree on

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for me to chalk it up as your generation,

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which would be really a ridiculous way to proceed.

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Are you not a millennial?

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No, I'm 75.

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Yeah.

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I'm old.

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You're 88?

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He's born in 75.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, that was confusing.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Oh, I thought you were just making a good joke.

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Yeah.

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No, I hope to make some of those for you,

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but that wasn't one of them.

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1975, I was born.

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My birthday was last week.

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I'm 49 years old.

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You're 13, 14 years older than me.

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That's significant.

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I could have had you.

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Wow.

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I only had a single pregnancy scared in my life,

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and it was in junior high.

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Oh, my God.

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It was the only one I ever had.

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You were fucking a 13?

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I was.

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I wasn't even close.

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When were you?

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Now let's just jump in.

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That was like my second spit take of this.

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Don't make that a thing.

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I know, I don't want to exploit it.

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I was like 1920.

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In college.

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But it wasn't even in college.

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It was the summer after freshman year of college.

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Didn't you go to Jewish camp every year?

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Mm-hmm.

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Why didn't you get laid there?

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Oh, my God.

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Laid?

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What do you mean?

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Are people not having sex at these camps?

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They're not having sex.

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Blowjobs.

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Fingering, all that.

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But you got to understand,

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me until age 18, 19

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was like a total non-starter for any girl or woman.

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Okay.

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