Lice

I'm Jenna Fisher and I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friends, and now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you.

Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

We're the office ladies.

Hello, hi, oh my goodness.

I walked in to the most wonderful celebration.

It was a surprise.

Angela.

So you guys, Jenna is turning 50 this week.

Yes.

And I knew you didn't think we had anything planned, but I arranged with Cassie. I got here early and I made a sign that says it is your 50th, a la Jim and Dwight.

Yes, right, uh-huh, it's amazing.

I had sad streamers left over from some Christmas craft I did, and Cassie brought balloons.

And some partially inflated balloons.

We did that, Cassie and I partially inflated them, and then Jordan hung the sign. We did the best we could. But it's actually a little wonky and just perfect.

Here is the thing do not take this the wrong way. But the greatest thing about doing the office-themed it is your birthday decorations is that they can be real bad. I know, and it works.

I know.

It is all on theme and I love it. You have very colorful balloons, which I think is right. It's a milestone year, it's your 50th.

It is your 50th.

So I think you get colorful, sad balloons on your milestones.

Gray and brown balloons, just fyi are harder to find they are.

Right or gray, or whatever colors they use.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, it was a surprise. When I came in the door this morning, I accidentally punched my knuckle into the metal door handle and I-.

And we were waiting for you to arrive. I was about to yell, Ah, and then I saw you do that, and literally Jenna hit her hand and then goes, Ah.

It was so painful and I was so grumpy. As I was coming in, I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm like, I'm here, I'm limping in. And then you guys were like, surprised.

I didn't-.

Or a coincidence? I didn't think about it.

And then when you were like, I'm going to Joshua Tree for my birthday, and I realized I wore a Joshua Tree sweatshirt, I know.

I feel like my celebration is starting, but yeah, my family, we're just going as a family to Joshua Tree for my milestone birthday.

Beautiful state park, beautiful, I've never been. Oh, it's one of those places where you feel small in the world because it's just so beautiful and vast. And you have to go stargazing, yes.

I heard that I wanted to go someplace majestic, someplace I've never been, and here it is. Joshua Tree is so close. I've lived out in L.A. more than 20 years and I've never gone to the desert.

A star expert person.

That's what they're called. Yes, that's what's on their business card. Oh, that's going to be wonderful, yeah.

So one evening we're going to go out and they're going to tell us everything that's in the sky and that's going to be such a special birthday.

You have to send me a picture.

Oh, I will, of course. Well, guys, thank you. This was so awesome and I can't wait to eat the sweet treats.

I know, oh yeah. We also got tiny desserts, because Jenna loves tiny desserts. We'll do that at break, and we also got flowers.

This is amazing and I'm excited to share my birthday with the episode today because it is one of my favorites.

I think it's one of your funniest performances, I loved it so much. There's an episode coming up, I'm not even going to go there yet that I think you should have won the Emmy for. I'm going to wait for that.

Why are we so good in season nine? Lady, you and I? We really are very, very good in this season.

We're late bloomers, I guess so.

Well, listen, today we are talking about lice. It is season nine, episode 10, written by Nikki Schwartz-Wright and directed by Rodman Flender. Here is your summary. With Jim away, Pam struggles to balance work and kids, and accidentally infects the office with Cece's lice, but she lets Meredith take the fall.

Yeah.

Fast fact number one is Meredith's bald head.

Oh my gosh, we got a lot of mail.

So much mail. Because in this episode, Meredith shaves her head, she finds out she has lice and she just shaves her head. I remember after the table read for this episode, we were all like, Wait, Kate can't shave her.

Head.

Yeah, how is that going to work? And my memory is that Greg originally wanted Kate to actually shave her head, like in the episode, like on camera.

I kind of remember that, too. And here's the thing you guys. We have been waiting for so long to talk to Kate about this episode. It's one of her best performances and I reached out to her and she has wonderful things to share with us.

I'm very glad she picked Plan B. I mean, she mentioned a few things, but she didn't even mention having a warehouse shelf fall on her or the bat.

The bat on her head, showing the ta-ta.

Flashing Yes, I mean, Kate has shown up for this role in so many ways.

I think it's a-ok that she said. I don't want to shave my head.

Yeah, well, Kate ended up getting the bald cap for this episode and we asked her about what that process was like, and here is what she said.

Ed French is like the greatest bald cap dude in the world. He teaches a lot of makeup artists how to do it. He did the bald cap for Star Trek, the movie from Like Is that? from 1980, The Bald Lady who's not really bald now. I didn't know that.

Takes two hours to get out of it.

And the glue and the wax, and the, I mean, that is a journey, getting that bald cap on.

So you know, lady, years later, when I was on splitting up together, I had to get a bald cap and it was the same guy, Ed French.

He's the dude.

He's the guy he came and did this same process to me. And I remember reaching out to Kate and being like, guess who I'm with right now, guess what's happening to me. And also she was like a person who knew what I was going through because she had done it. And she's like, doesn't your head get so cold when you get the...?

You went through all of that and they cut the scene.

Yeah, can you even believe that? But anyway, I'll give you the pictures of me bald in my ed French baldness.

Oh, I'll do a side by side.

You can do a side by side of me and Kate in our Ed French bald caps.

I love it.

Well, Kate, thank you so much. We're going to hear more from Kate as we break down this episode. Moving on to Fast Fact number two Big guest star Cameo Alert basketball legend Dr. Julius Irving.

Dr. J in the House.

For anyone who doesn't know, Dr. J won three NBA championships, four Most Valuable Player Awards and three scoring titles. With the Virginia Squires, New York Nets, who are now the Brooklyn Nets and the Philadelphia 76ers basketball legend on our show.

When you watch this episode, if you think, gosh, the character Jim is so giddy around Dr. J, that is just John Krasinski. He was giddy. He was so tickled to be in those scenes.

Well, Angela, I remember that, so I reached out to John.

Oh, yeah, what'd he say?

And I was like, John, do you have anything to say about working with Dr. J? And here's what he said. He said, I mean, it was Dr. J.

And get to shoot a basket with him.

Well, that poor kid just blacked out.

Yeah.

It was so cute, I don't think he had to act at all in those scenes.

Not for a second no.

We also got a fan question from William M. from Quote all over the United States Air Force. How did you get Dr. J on the show? Well, William Lauren Anderson, who was one of the executives at NBC, was our connection to Dr.

Well, Jenna, it's time for your fast fact number three. And I'm really hoping you haven't told me. But I am really hoping that this is a deep dive on lice. Please tell me it is.

Lady, it is your dream come true. Do I know you? I know you.

We now know how each other preps an episode.

You know it fast. Fact three is lice trivia from Laurel M. in Woodstock, Georgia.

Laurel, what do you have?

Laurel is our deep dive expert on lice, because Laurel wrote us a letter that says this I am way more excited than I should be to write in about lice. However, seeing as that my family recently dealt with an infestation and my 12 year old had to watch this episode while being lice checked, I feel it's appropriate. Here is what Laurel had to say.

Clean scalps, yes.

So in this episode, we're assuming that it was like, Oh, Meredith never bathes. That's why she has lice. No, no, no lice like a clean scalp.

Yeah, greasy scalp, they like, slide off of or something. Oh, I mean, I don't know.

I'm just like imagining a little lice, just like sliding off people's heads. Number two lice cannot fly or jump. You have to really be close to someone. lice have to, like, crawl into another person's head.

Yeah, okay.

Laurel, said Gross.

Yeah, that is gross.

Number three they can only infest your head. They can live in bedding or rug, clothing or fabric, but only for 24 hours, and lice cannot reproduce off the head. So if they get transferred to a hat, they can't multiply unless they get back on a head.

So gross.

Mm-hmm.

Also, I guess Meredith really didn't need to wax her pubic area for lice.

She wanted to travel south.

Here is lice fact number four Have you heard of the blood rhesus factor? that's like where your blood type can determine certain things? Like, I don't know, I've heard of it loosely, but I guess it's true that lice prefer positive blood over negative blood types, but they will feed on either. However, lice can't, like, start on one blood type and move to another blood type.

That is fascinating, right, yeah.

Laurel.

Laurel, Way to go, Laurel.

I know, Laurel said. This proved true in my family because she said only the people with negative blood had lice, and the people with positive blood did not get lice in her family.

Oh man, this is so interesting.

Lice fact number five You do not have to wash everything in your house like Pam did, because lice cannot actually infest your whole house. You just have to wash your bed, linens, any recently worn clothing and put any like hair items like brushes, combs in the freezer, and that's it.

Well done, Laurel.

Laurel.

Well done.

This was, I don't even know what to say. I'm speechless. You have out deep dived me. I love it. I mean, not that I'm the deep dive expert, but wow, you really covered it.

You did a great job, yes.

Finally, Angela, In our Fast Fact about lice, we have a fan question from Isabella S. from Massachusetts Have you or your kids ever had lice?

Oh gosh, Isabella. As Laurel was talking, I relived a whole week of my life. Okay, lice spread through third grade like wildfire when my daughter was in third grade. What is it about third grade?

You know, this is the thing every year, the third grade, because our kids go to the same school. They have a lice infestation in the third grade, and I'm surprised to learn that lice cannot live off the head. Because there's been-.

I swear that classroom has it.

That's what we've all been saying. All the moms are like, watch out for third grade, the class has lice, like before you even start school, just assume you're going to have a lice adventure.

Well, we know who Patient Zero was. I won't say her name.

Little thing moving.

It freaked me out. Wow. I immediately texted the mom thread, right? And I'm like, Okay, does that? One girl who left school, I mean, is it because she has lice? And then someone else was like, I think so.

The Lice Lady.

The lice lady, and she uses these organic products, she goes through with that comb. She sent me home with a kit. Well, guess what?

You know how you do.

I, like, scratched her back, I fell asleep, putting her to bed. Of course, yeah. Guess who else got lice?

Wow.

Jack and Josh did not get it. Me and Cade and Isabella are all positive blood types.

Yes, and I didn't know that until you just said that.

That is crazy. Yeah, it was a whole thing. I did wash everything in the house, just like Pam.

Oh my gosh, well, you know, when it was time for my son to be in third grade, guess what happened? pandemic? Oh, he never set foot in the third grade classroom.

Oh, really.

And guess what? My daughter went through third grade classroom lice. we didn't get it, but lice. third grade classroom has lice right now.

Are you serious? Yes, I just got a text.

What the heck?

Beware.

Third grade has lice.

They need to get that Dwight bomb and set it off in there, I guess so.

Oh my goodness, all right, all right. That was a long top of show, folks.

Yes.

But we had a lot to talk about, a lot to do. Let's take a break, and when we get back, we will start going through this episode like a lice comb. We'll really let's not, no.

Let's not go through it like a lice comb. I can find lice on your head, by the way. It's now a skill I have, I know where to look. The lady showed me how to do it.

Should you do?

I'm like, all braggy, I'll check your head for lice.

If I ever need a lice check, I'll just come to your place.

Call me.

I got a piece of my tiny cake out there and I love it, it's very good. So sorry, all right.

I have some call sheet tidbits for you before we break down this episode.

Oh, I love a call sheet tidbit.

We started filming this episode on Monday, November 5th, 2012.

Always the weather.

The high that day was 90 degrees, and by the time, we-.

In november, in november, right? Wow.

And by the time we wrapped this episode on Friday, November 9th, the high was only 63 degrees.

Oh, it was that time of year, yep, in L.A. in the winter, we're also the summer for a few days.

And everyone gets a cold bug because the weather swings.

So extreme, yeah.

Also, on the very first day of filming, they scheduled a test of the bald cap slash shaving rig with Kate. But we did not film that scene when she shaves her head until the final day on Friday. And then, you know, they love to decorate our call sheets, and on Tuesday, the call sheets had little American flags and balloons and a bald eagle. Because it was super Tuesday and everyone was voting.

Lady, it's super Tuesday today, I know we're recording this on Super Tuesday.

I know that's so crazy, isn't that crazy? Yeah, are we in the matrix?

What's happening? The coincidences today? Mm-hmm. Let's hope no one gets sliced.

There's a glitch in the matrix.

I don't know. Well, listen, this episode is going to open with a little scene in the break room. It's just Jim and Daryl and Kevin, and they're kind of arguing about basketball, and Jim keeps biting his lip.

Oh, and he does that thing that you do, you know, when you bite your lip and then it makes a bump and then you keep biting the bump.

You bite the bump.

Ugh.

Did you notice Jim John's baby carrots?

I sure did.

I called them Jim John's Baby Carrots, because it's really John that likes to eat the baby carrots as Jim Jim John, Jim John's baby carrots. Angela, we got a fan question for you. mm-hmm.

All right, Lee, I have all the answers for you. So Jim biting his tongue was originally the cold open for Dwight's Christmas. Oh yeah.

Sorry, my mouth is full of cake.

Oh, yes.

But then Dwight's Christmas has no cold open, no credits.

Right, you commented on that right away, you're like, did you notice there's no cold open? There was, they just didn't include it.

A moustache, A Moustache.

Daryl says it's Creed, and then Pam has a talking head, and she says, We found this weird drawing. under Creed's desk. She shows us the drawing. There are waves, there's a bucket, a skeleton, a ham, straight lines separating them.

Pam goes bizarre, huh?

She shows the diagram to camera, then looks at it and turns it 90 degrees and goes, Oh my God. Pam bursts back into the break room, where the previous group are still lounging, and says. It's a map and they all say what? and then they all figure out who they are on the map. It's really funny.

So it's like a map of the office and then all the people are represented on the map.

Angela is the skeleton.

Wow.

Daryl is a cheeseburger. Wow, I know, but it is on the DVDs, so there you go, Leigh.

Amazing, great question, great answer.

So this is how the episode actually starts. A person comes into the office, they're in a coat, they have a hat, kind of pulled down, they look a little ragged.

It's Pam, yeah, there's a talking head where Pam reveals that Jim has been spending a few nights a week in Philly. And it's been challenging. And we see a montage of Pam sort of trying to take out the trash and things are falling everywhere. And then she shares that her current problem is that Cece has lice and she was up all night.

Yeah, she was disinfecting the entire house. And then she says, don't tell Jim. He has a really big meeting today and he's doing it for the family. Like she doesn't want to stress him out with this. Mm-hmm.

Lady, we got fan mail.

Oh yeah.

Very passionate fan mail from Erin S. in Baltimore, Maryland. Here is what Erin had to say years. I have waited years to finally get up on my soapbox about this episode.

Oh, wow, let's hear it.

I know Erin's coming in hot, huh?

Yeah, she's hot to trot, she is.

Here is what she goes on to say. While I have plenty of thoughts on the entire Jim Philly storyline, my biggest picadillo about the whole thing is how Pam is portrayed in this episode. Pam is a strong, independent woman, a mother of two, a professional. She is fully capable of caring for her children on her own. She did just fine while Jim was in Tallahassee.

I do it's a picadillo.

It's a picadillo, I'll go on. Pam and Jim both work full-time, so her children obviously have a well-established daycare situation going on, and her mother is staying with her to help. The idea that she would be so overwhelmed by being home alone with her children for a few days that she would show up to work with unbrushed hair and a misbuttoned sweater is just insulting to moms everywhere who routinely hold down the fort with grace and panache.

A picadillo and a panache.

I'm telling you, Erin.

Erin, this is your soapbox moment.

This is it. I'm doing my best to give it all. I got two, there's more.

I have a feeling I know which episode, too.

We got another letter that I'm calling counterpoint.

Oh.

This is from Kiana R. in Williams, Georgia, who said When my husband leaves me with the kids for several days, I feel like I'm going to die. LOL. I felt you portrayed so well the exhausted desperation of a mother doing it all on her own when she normally has help. Well, Angela, I thought I'd open it up.

Listen, I think I'm with Erin.

You're with Erin.

I'm with Erin. I mean, you know, I was a single mom for a few years and I had to get s done.

Yeah.

I might not have had the cutest hairdo when I showed up to work, but I still showed up and I had everything done. So I guess I also do really hear Kiana, too. I mean, I probably didn't look super put together, but I was able to take out the trash without spilling it into the street. Whatever, that moment was ridiculous to me.

That's very interesting. I hadn't even considered Erin's point of view on this until I read the letter and I saw there was a lot of value in that letter. But I will tell you, I am a Kiana, okay?

You are a kiana.

I completely fall apart when Lee leaves town. I have been pam trying to take the trash out. Okay, I don't take the trash out in my family.

You did call me because the lights went out in your house and Lee was out of town. He was skiing with your son. Yes, and you were like, Ang, the power went out.

I was like, someone needs to know.

I was like, It's all good, do you need me to come over? No, I'm a mess.

I am a mess, so I guess I felt like Pam was me. When Lee goes out of town and I try to do what she does where I try to be like, No, no.

It's all good here.

Nothing to worry about, I'm not falling apart.

With trash on the street, it's all good.

So that was a very honest performance for you.

For me, it was yes.

Yeah, I think I'm more Erin.

You are more, Erin.

Jim is now going to have a talking head. He shares that he's meeting his personal hero today, Dr. J, a..k...a Julius Irving. But he can't rub it in Pam's face. Because that would be like if he was home with the kids. And she was out like go-karting with. I don't know John Stamos.

That's such a funny line.

It's so specific.

We got a fan question from Ann M in Florida, who said Go-karting with John Stamos is one of the funniest lines in this episode. Were there any alts I feel like if there were, I'd love to hear?

There were.

Yeah, I mean, I know this was the scripted talking head, but I did not remember that there were alts.

There were a few alts, and I'll share one with you, so.

Everything is the same.

Except, instead of John Stamos, they would just rotate in different names. Oh so, here's one. Jim would have said This would be like if Pam got to spend the day with Banksy, I think.

Hmm.

Well, I thought that this talking head was very funny. Because I have another Splitting up together story, I guess that's what this episode is about. For me, when I worked on Splitting up together, it was on the Lot, the Warner Brothers Lot.

It's a huge lot, it's like a small city.

Very, very big, and our dressing rooms that we were assigned, there are these buildings with dressing rooms. It's very like old Hollywood sort of.

It's like the old studio days.

Yes, fascinating. It was very fun to shoot there, so our building with our dressing rooms was very far away from our sound stage. Mm-hmm.

The Sony studio is the same way. When I did that, show your family or mine, it was....

Mm-hmm.

You and I had never filmed on a big studio lot, No, so it was so interesting. There's like a gym.

Yes, there's like, a little.

Market store.

So I asked, could I rent a little golf cart for myself and have my own little golf cart? So that I could get around? And like, go to the little coffee place or get myself to set or do these things? And they said, no actors were prohibited from having their own golf carts or scooters. Why? Because of John Stamos?

What?

What'd he do like he got everyone banned?

Yes.

All actors banned. Yes. And I feel okay telling this story. Because I ran into him at a party after this. And I was like, John, you are why I couldn't have a golf cart at Warner Brothers. And he goes, I know, I'm so sorry, what?

Lady, just the way he reacted, like, I know it's not just for zipping around.

I don't know, I don't know, but he was like, I'm so sorry, I think they were having races.

I bet he tipped one over or something, maybe, I don't know.

I don't know all the details, maybe I'll run into him again and I'll get a refresher. But we had a good laugh.

About you getting everyone banned from having golf carts?

On the Warner Brothers lot. But it made me laugh, because, you know, go-karting, golf-karting, just the idea of zipping around with John Stamos. It holds water. There's some reality there. He would do that.

Well, this Pam and Jim phone call wraps up. They both kind of lie to each other. Like, Pam's like, I'm doing great, and Jim's like, Oh, my taxi's here, but it's actually a limo. And he's really excited, but he's downplaying that.

So.

You're already kind of seeing a disconnect, how they're not really sharing about what's really going on in their lives.

Yeah, they think that they're kind of protecting one another. In Pam's case, she's being supportive of him by not weighing him down with the day-to-day.

Mm-hmm. And Jim feeling like he's not making her feel bad about not having new things in her life.

Mm-hmm. Well, now we're gonna move to the parking lot for our Daryl and Val storyline.

I titled this storyline WTf Daryl.

Oh, we got so much mail about her.

I don't understand. He was so excited, he liked her so much. And now there's a job in Philly and he's like, I don't wanna be tied down, buh-bye.

Guess who agrees with you? Jennifer P. from Spanaway, Washington.

Thank you, Jennifer.

Jennifer says What's up with Daryl? And the sudden 180 with Val? Yeah, after working so hard to form a relationship with Val, now, he's suddenly behaving as if she's a bother. It was just a few episodes ago that he and Val posed hand-in-hand in a photo with Jada.

Yes, Jennifer, Yes.

They took, basically.

A family photo?

Yep, we hear you. Mm-hmm, yeah. Daryl is doing that thing where he has an opportunity. And he's doing that thing where he thinks like, his whole life is going to change or has to change because of this one new opportunity.

I'm also confused by Val, too, because Val seems like she could either take him or leave him. I don't know that either of them are approaching this relationship in the right way.

I feel like Val has always been a little less invested in the relationship than Daryl. I mean, Daryl is a step up from Brandon, but you know?

Maybe a sidestep?

Slightly better than a lateral move, at least, you know, I don't know. Brandon seemed like a jerk to other people, maybe not to Val.

Pam is gonna go up to Meredith's desk and she needs her supply request, but Meredith says, Just stop nagging. Any wonder Jim left you? And then she starts scratching her head, like, really hard, and Pam's like, Oh no, oh no, Erin clocks all of this.

Yeah, she starts inspecting Meredith's scalp and, guess what, lice.

Erin kind of brags she knows a lot about lice because she had it 22 times.

Yep, she's an expert.

Everyone immediately turns on Meredith. Angela accuses her of not signing the pledge to shower. Dwight is like, lock the doors, we're gonna be under full quarantine.

Dwight says he had lice once, it was the first day of school, and he was teased for 15 years. After that. No one would play with him. They called him a freak, four eyes sci-fi nerd and girl puncher, all because he had lice when he was 7..

Oh, Dwight.

I know, but guess what? Dwight does not have lice, Erin inspects him, he is lice free, and so he starts spraying everybody with a disinfectant. And we had a fan question from Jessica N.

Erin is now inspecting everyone. As she starts going through Angela's scalp, Angela reminds Meredith that this is an office, not one of her. Beanbag orgies What is a beanbag orgy?

Is it just an orgy on a bunch of beanbags, like on a pile of beanbags?

Oh.

Right?

Yeah, I guess.

I guess it's just you throw some beanbags on the floor and then there's an orgy.

And you get to it.

I didn't google it.

I did not google it either. No, don't google it, don't do it right, put your phone away.

Angela.

Stanley, Pam and Oscar all have lice.

All have lice. Dwight is gonna return in a full hazmat suit, he says. If you rent it more than four times a year, it just makes sense to buy it.

I did look it up, they're not that expensive.

To buy.

You can get one for like, a hundred dollars.

You know what? This is reminding me of my old recliner, which I've rented several times now.

I keep telling you to just buy the damn thing.

I mean, I've bought three recliners at this point.

Just buy it. I know you said it doesn't really fit the aesthetic of your house, et cetera, et cetera. Not only it doesn't fit.

In the room, barely, we had to move the bed against the wall to fit it. Have you seen?

The ginormous dentist chair that we got.

Josh for.

His lower back.

Whenever we.

Go to watch a show, just give yourself a minute, because this is what you're going to hear.

Listen, how about when I have to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night and Lee's in the bed and I'm in the recliner? And at 2 a?

Me gosh, I'd go crazy, I'd go.

Crazy. I think I want to get an adjustable bed. Here's what happened I broke my shoulder. I got so used to sleeping on my back in this one way that now I.

Need the?

Lift.

I couldn't.

Sleep laying down.

We got my mom, I mean, she's in her 80s, but there's no time like the present you are turning 50.

An adjustable bed? This is what my life has become, I'm leaning into it. I couldn't.

Be more.

Excited.

Anyway, Dwight should have just bought the Hazmat suit. He was right to do it.

That's good. Should we talk about the folks that don't have lice, a.k.a. The blue Group? Phyllis, Kevin and Nellie?

Maybe they're all the same blood type, oh.

Maybe they are, they're also all wearing blue, and Daryl doesn't have lice.

And the warehouse, they're safe.

Dwight is going to tell the No lice group Get out of here, go down, work in the warehouse, so they're going to gather their things. And when they get to the elevator, Daryl says, Hey guys, I have a few rules don't mess with the Bailer and be cool in front of me and Val because we broke up.

Phyllis and Kevin and Nellie, they take that hard. They're like, Oh my gosh, that's so sad, they really feel for Daryl. This is going to start a whole storyline.

They're so nice to him, I know. We had a fan question from Emily B. in Hillsboro, North Carolina, who said What's up with Kevin kissing so many people on the cheek in this episode?

Let's hear it.

So this scene was shorter in the shooting draft than what ended up in the episode. When do we ever say that?

Never, never, yeah.

Here's what I found. It ended after Daryl gave them the news about the breakup.

That whole.

Second part about them trying to comfort him, and Kevin giving him his chocolate bar and Nellie saying that the singer Brandy got her through. None of that was in our shooting script. All of this was added later. There was a script rewrite page handed out on the day that we shot this. And that is where all of this extra detail came out. There was nothing about Kevin giving Daryl a kiss.

I wonder if Brian improvised the kiss on Daryl's cheek.

And then, maybe later, to Val.

Yeah.

Because neither of those were scripted well.

I thought Craig's reaction as Daryl was really funny, maybe.

Because it was a surprise.

Yeah, Pam now has a talking head. And Jenna, you're so good in it because you start off so defiant. You're like, you know what, maybe meredith?

Did bring lies.

And they're different from the ones that Cece got. Don't jump to conclusions. That's how worse gets started. And then when Pam just gives in and is like, Fine, I'll tell her, I'll confess.

Thank you so much. When I watched it, it reminded me of Jeremy being confronted by Laura in Love Is Blind season 6..

I don't watch Love is Blind after he stayed out.

At the bar until 5am.

Oh my god.

This is so.

Specific.

Anyone who watched that season will know what I'm talking about. But when I saw Jeremy do that moment with Laura, it also reminded me of Michael Scott and how defensive he is about burning his foot on the George Foreman grill. This guy, Jeremy, he just didn't come home. And he's sitting in the living room. It's like 6am. He's got sunglasses on and his fiance comes in and she's like, Are we leaving the glasses on all day? And he just takes them off? She's super calm and he's like, What do you want to talk about it? She's like, I think we should.

Super.

Defensive like, Dude, it's you, it's on you buddy, it is on you bud. Any question?

That your.

Fiance has about your whereabouts last night are super valid. Does he ever?

Say, Okay, fine, no, he just sort of.

Remains sort of like.

Kind of like, Ugh, fine, I'll tell you again. We were in the car, we were talking. It's a very Michael Scott, like, I like the smell of bacon. Okay, sue me.

And then she's like, How did?

Sarah Ann get home and he's like, Yes.

I drove her home.

Every.

Layer is like.

Oh, wait, it's getting.

Worse, but it's like.

Why do you have bedhead?

Duh, I was tired.

She said I could lay on her bed. Well, you want me to drive home tired? you want me to draw you a map.

It was so funny. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry Jeremy. I'm sure you're a nice person. And you became fodder for the internet with this scene. So many people have recreated it.

I don't know anything you're talking about. I know I'm sorry, I'm not going to have to look it up because I'm now fascinated.

I'm tangent lady today. Okay, I apologize. listen, where are we? We're in a limo, okay?

Jim was like, You got to be kidding.

Me, yeah.

Well, I have a fun story about the limo driver in this scene.

I know this story you called me after, and I was like, What I know?

This is talk about random coincidence. So earlier this year, I was filming a project out of town. I can't share about it yet, but I can't wait to tell you guys it was super fun. So I'm filming out of town and the production company arranged for a car to pick me up from the airport.

Yep.

I get in the car and the driver was really nice and we get to talking. And he was like, Gosh, you look familiar, and I was like, I know you.

Look familiar?

Too, and we're just like.

Huh.

And then?

We sort of ride in silence and he's like, wait.

Were you?

In the office and I said, Yeah, I was. I played, you know, Angela, in accounting, and he said, I was on the office.

Too, and I said.

What?

It's so crazy.

Yeah, he said, Okay, it's season nine, and I was like, Wait, I do a podcast and we just started season nine and he goes, Okay. Remember when Jim gets picked up in a limo to go meet Dr. J?

God, that was you. And he said, Yes.

His name is Jeff Hatch, he is the loveliest person, and I was like, Jeff, can I interview you for my podcast?

We're driving.

Down the 405 freeway, he's like, Sure, I'm in the backseat, so I'm kind of leaning forward and he's kind of facing forward. The sound quality is probably not the best, but he was so lovely.

I love this.

Hello office ladies listeners, I am in the car with Jeff Hatch. He played the limo driver. In Which episode was the episode? Lice? And John Krasinski's character was out of the office the day they had lice because he was meeting. Dr. J. Oh, yeah.

And how?

Did you get your job on the office? I had a Class B commercial license and I could drive stretch limos because that was my job at the time and still is my job to this day. And I.

My pleasure.

I love.

That, so much, how random is that? It's so crazy.

And you guys, we weren't in a limo, just, so, you know, it was just one of those big SUVs. Oh, yeah, yeah. But he was so lovely and I'm going to give a shout out to him in stories. Jeff, thanks for talking to me about your time on the office.

That is so cool. Well, I know that whenever we had to have someone who was actually driving a car, you had to have that special.

Professional driver.

Yeah, a special license and also be an actor, and so we would cast people with those criteria. And he did great. I know I thought it was awesome.

Very believable, so natural, and just a lovely person.

Aw, well, on that note, why don't we take a break? I've been slowly eating this cake all through this last segment. I know it's been distracting you, Angela, but you can't give me cake and then make me wait to eat it. I'm a lady who likes.

I was also watching you eat it and watching you try not to make noise while you eat it. I know so that, like, imagine someone taking a bite. But they're trying not to let their lips fully touch the fork, so it's like, Oh.

Boom, so sorry, let's take a break and I'm just gonna eat it, okay?

We'll be right back because Pam is gonna go into the kitchen to find Meredith shaving her head.

Yeah.

Well, here we are, we're in the kitchen. Meredith is gonna start to shave her head. She also is heating up some wax for Down South.

That's right.

Just in case the critters migrated.

Pam enters and she's gonna confess, but she doesn't have time because Meredith has shaved the center of her head already.

I mean, could you?

Imagine.

No, I can't.

Oh my goodness. We had a fan question from Rosie K. from Valley, Nebraska, who said I need to know all about the scene. Where Meredith is shaving her head. Obviously, she didn't really shave her head, but it looks so real. How did they go about making this look so real?

Well, Kate sent us in an audio clip sharing all about this and you gotta hear it how that all worked. All the scenes worked, especially the one where I'm specifically shaving my head, like where you actually see it. Yeah, it took like three and a half hours to get into the bald cap with a partial wig for that scene. So I look like Benjamin Franklin. And then they had me put hair in my hand, like I actually had my hand on top of my head, holding the extra hair, so you couldn't tell.

And I can say that is how we did it. I remember it was not easy, though, it was very hard because she had so much business to do. You know? Like she had to hold fake hair in one hand or razor in another hand, kind of like, make it all fall out, she had to do that whole illusion.

While acting.