#2000 - Duncan Trussell
2023-06-20 03:37:59
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Hi meow, meow.
Hi, ruff, ruff.
Um, I'm so excited to be here with you today. Yeah, this is our first podcast coming out as our true selves.
We're furries.
Yeah, we've been holding it in forever.
This is my true identity, and, you know what, it just eats me alive to not tell how we met at a furry con.
Well, we didn't know that we met there, remember?
Well, yeah, I didn't know who you were for a long time.
Yeah, we didn't know. I'm like, Oh my god, you're meow, meow.
Dude, it blew my mind. I mean, to me, that is proof we're in a simulation.
Because what are the odds?
They're not good.
What are the odds, man?
The odds are also not good. That I'm going to keep this fucking helmet on. Oh my god, I'm sweating.
This is like, not good for me, I'm not keeping this on, dude, I can barely breathe.
How do they do it? I don't know, they fuck with these things on.
How do you fuck with this on?
They're heroes, those people are heroes.
Total respect for Furries now.
Respect for the furry community. Look, I got the feet on and everything.
It's like, Beakrum fucking.
Yeah, it's very hot in here. If you can fuck with this on, you're an American hero. Yeah, that's how I feel.
David Coggins needs to put on one of these things and fuck for an hour.
He should, Yeah, you think you're so cool running for a thousand miles, how about fuck for four and a half minutes with this on?
I can't fuck for four and a half minutes without it on.
This is like sprinting uphill.
This is really brutal, just thinking about patting around a Ramada in one of these things.
I get it Orlando outside in the summer.
What do you mean? You get it? I get it when I put it on.
I get it, I know why they do it, I don't know why all of them do it.
Wait, why do you think they do it?
I think they do it because it offers you an anonymity that is impossible any other way, right? And it turns you into your image. The visual that people get of you is this adorable, cute mascot.
Right?
Everybody loves a mascot. the mascot is literally there to pump everybody up and yay, and they don't talk, and everybody loves them. Yeah, right, people at Disneyland same thing.
Wait, they don't talk, no.
They don't talk, like, if you meet goofy, goofy doesn't say, Jack, shit to you.
We went to Goofy's kitchen, Goofy doesn't talk.
Yeah, it's like.
I can't, I can't do it.
Oh my god, it's so hard to breathe, it's so hard to breathe. horrible. How about those fucking people that work at Disneyland?
That wear these things and they walk around in the heat in the summer. Respect to them.
Dude, those Disneyland, like the people who do this at Disneyland.
They party.
I bet they do.
I heard it's like, insane. When they get off work, I'm sure they fucking party.
First of all, it's not even their fault. Their brain's been cooked all day. Do you know what kind of effect that must have on their cognitive function?
Dude, like, while we're bitching because they made us wear masks on planes, they're going around in a hotbox.
I bet they made them wear a mask under their stupid mask.
Guarantee it, I bet they did, guarantee it, I bet they did those fucking dorks.
You had to mask up in your goofy outfit.
You got good outfits, though these are dope.
Dude, these are incredible and it's kind of sad that.
We're pussies.
Of all the costumes we've worn, I think this is the least time we've spent even the hoods.
But I was almost like hyperventilating in there.
Dude, I was panicking.
You can see this awful wall.
It's terrible.
Don't you get it, though? If you were a very tortured, socially awkward person, your life has just been a mess. But you are, for whatever reason, attracted sexually to the idea of it, or maybe not even sexually, maybe just attracted to the idea of it. But then you do it and you get to be not just innocuous, not just someone that gets picked on not just that, but instead attractive. You're this adorable thing, you're adorable, like, Hey.
They come at you with a different energy.
Dude, I've seen some really hot furry porn, I've seen some incredible furry porn.
What's the worst furry porn? Have you ever seen? Something like God, you guys aren't even trying.
Those are still shots, usually weird polaroids and stuff. generally, those are solo furries who are banging a stuffed animal.
That sucks, that's not cool.
What do they do? Put a fleshlight in a stuffed animal?
No, they're not that advanced. They just rip a hole in the fucking thing's butt and just leave their crusted jizz on it as some mark of achievement or something really bad, really bad.
Human beings are so weird in so many ways. yes, in so many ways, but it's so funny. It's like media like Norman Rockwell paintings.
There's this image of us that we are when we're at our best. The family dinner table in a 1980s movie. That's us when we're at our best. Everyone's getting along. How's school going?
Junior, Junior's doing great. But the reality is, there's no license to get a person. You don't have a license to become pregnant. You don't have to go through any qualification process.
It's literally the most important thing for the future of the human race. That people who have children and raise those children are capable of doing it. You're capable of raising a well-adjusted person. Any person growing up as a human being today, baby to grown up, you're born today, and you've got to become a grown up in this fucking wacky world.
Good luck being normal.
Oh my god, this is having kids right now and just having a vague understanding of Kurzweil's predictions for the singularity. And just considering with my kid, I will tell him. With the car, probably when you're old enough to drive, they won't have steering wheels anymore, you're probably not going to be driving the way I do.
Definitely don't you think?
If they can just prove.
See, there's meatheads like me that would be like, Fuck that bro, I want to drive my own fucking car. But if they can eliminate all deaths. You're going to have to take cars like that to a track. You're going to have to take the cars that I enjoy. You're going to have to take them to a track and drive them around.
They're going to be rides, it's not going to be your transportation.
You don't think in 10 years that it's going to.
Very possible, very possible. It'll be like a rule fight. There'll be some dispute about whether or not people accept that it's going to be a freedom issue with a lot of folks.
It is a freedom issue.
It certainly is if you have a totalitarian government. Because there's only one way that a car can drive itself autonomously, it has to be connected to insane technology that allows all sorts of things, like, what a Tesla does? you get updates online on your Tesla? they just send you an update.
They fix things, they make things better, they make the auto driving feature better. If that's the case, if somebody just decides to shut your car off, you're not allowed to drive. Duncan, We don't like your views on Covid vaccines.
Saw your tweets?
I don't like the way you think about the world and life and love. You're confusing people.
You didn't jog today?
You don't think exactly the way I want you to think. So. We're going to steer you and everybody who's paying attention in the same direction, and the everybody's paying attention part is huge. Because there's more self-policing than there is policing, there's more people that get scared of not going along with narratives than there are people enforcing narratives.
You know what, that's called cops in the head, that's a name for it, cops in the head. This is when I was in college.
I don't remember who came up with it, but basically they're studying neighborhoods that had huge police presences, you know, like bad areas, hyper low income areas.
You could do the math. So basically. The cops realized they didn't have to patrol anymore after a certain amount of time. Because people assimilate the police state inside of them and just like you're saying now, you're policing yourself, and that is the ultimate.
When you think about trying to save money, when you think about controlling populations, or when you think about the huge problem of empire. Once you spread out too far, it's incredibly expensive to keep everything supplied and everything in control.
And to keep your commanders doing what you say. And so the best thing for an empire is for people to not even know that they're there, but to be following the general prescription of the emperor, that's the ultimate empire. Don't put up statues of yourself.
Don't put your fucking face on the coin. What you want to do is get your philosophy into the brain of the people that you have caught.
I think the problem today is that there's so many more interesting narratives than the official narrative.
It used to be that you had a president that would stand up and talk to people and he would give these speeches that everyone would listen to. And that's Eisenhower at the end of his terms, when he's saying he's warning America about the military industrial complex.
That's so creepy.
He's warning us that there's a machine that wants to go to war and you have to be very careful of that. He's warning us about that.
You could tell the next president to not ever say that, and everybody else sort of steps in line, so you tell the next president don't talk about that. You talk about the conflicts overseas, you talk about the desire to spread democracy.
You talk about these people that are a threat to everyone because they have weapons of mass destruction. They follow a very, very, very specific narrative, and that's all we had forever.
Forever.
And so there was all these people that would have cocktail parties and they would meet at coffee shops and they'd go. Do you know what's really going on? Because this is what I think, I think the C.I.A. is giving people LSD like, what?
What the fuck are you talking about? You know, those meetings where people in South Central were like, I think the government's bringing drugs in here and everybody's like, no fucking way, no way they wouldn't do that.
They wouldn't do that. But if you were, I mean, look, let's pretend you're a really good guy and you're a government agent, you're the best. You want nothing but freedom in America and spread democracy around the globe. But Congress won't approve funding some rebels.
And there's only one way you've got to get this guy out of office. This guy's not playing ball, he's not with the agenda, he's a terrible dictator.
You've got to get rid of him. And we need to fund this, we need to fund these rebels, so we're just going to sell some drugs.
So crazy.
But if you think about the fact that if you're in the DEA, or if you're in the CIA, or the FBI, or any major intel organization. They know the futility of the amount of drugs that are being brought into this country. And there's a reason why, because there's a demand in this country.
You're not going to change it. And you see all these fucking scumbags making billions and you're like, Well, why don't I make some fucking money? Why don't we make some fucking money and do some good with it? That's the Oliver North story.
Dude, here's the perfect business model. You create a situation where you are selling drugs to people and then arresting them and taking your drugs back, plus all their stuff, and then reselling the drugs. Rinse and repeat.
And you know who to arrest, because you're selling it to them and you call your friend.
And you just keep. It's basically like throwing out fishing nets, man, you just throw out the nets. Let them sell the drugs long enough to get a shit ton of money. Some nice cars pull the nets back in, you got the drugs, you got the cars.
You got the money, it's an incredible. And also the, you know, I'm sometimes suspicious regarding the idea that they incinerate the drugs, of course.
Why would they someone come along and go? We got that, we'll take care of it, we'll incinerate it.
Take it to the incinerator.
There's some fucking guys who look like they just got out of the Naval Academy, you know, like, we got it.
Yeah, we got it, no problem.
And they fucking escort that off to some special boat.
Yeah, and there's a precedent for this. I mean, this isn't conspiracy like that was proven. Like, this shit is, remember that CIA plane that crashed with all the cocaine in it.
Yeah, tons of fucking shit, ton of cocaine in it. It was overweight, that's why it crashed, because it had so much coke in it.
Greed took them down.
I think it had something crazy, like a thousand pounds of coke.
That is so much coke, I can't even imagine how much coke that is.
How much was it? how many pounds was it?
3.
3.
How much does an elephant weigh?
How many elephants worth of coke is that, dude? That's crazy. That's C.I.A. Coke, too, you know, That's not bad coke. That's like something incredible in there.
Oh my God, it's pure, it's a rock flake, the stuff that Eric Clapton used to get.
Jesus Christ, it just makes your entire body go numb. I don't like Coke, though.
Look at all the coke that he had.
Oh my god, that's insane.
Oh my god.
That is fucking crazy, look at that.
I can't get this fucking car out of here. Yeah, it happened to me in the five seconds I had it on, too. A bunch of little hairs.
Holy shit, man.
You want a napkin or something? No, I'm alright.
How many bags of that do you think it consumed at? Like, an average coachella?
How many bags of that did Joey Diaz do during his prime? That's what I want to know.
That might be like Joey Diaz's cocaine career right there.
Oh man, that'd be so cool if there was a way to look at all the drugs you've done. Like, if you could have them laid out in front of you over the course of a lifetime.
Oh my God, you'd be terrified. It would be a room.
It would be exciting.
The amount of weed, the volume, just the sheer volume.
Booze, just think of all of it, just fucking piles of ketamine, wow.
And if you could do a chart to the size of your room versus the bad decisions you've made in your life, I bet you would find some correlations.
Yes, that's for sure.
100%.
Absolutely, man.
There's just no way around it. This is why I think karma is a wonderful and perfect way to articulate this. Where you're at, everything around you, that's your karma, this is your karma. I love that because it keeps me from going victim.
You look around at everything and you're like, whatever it is, good, you did that for yourself, bad you did that to yourself and you just have to deal with it. But not necessarily.
Babies get shot in drive-bys.
Well, yeah, okay, yes, the baby thing, I mean, there's some theoretical. There's two ways to look at it one Occam's razor. It's the same problem like Thea's face in trying to explain why awful things happen to babies.
You know what I think, what I think. Karma is an element.
It's an element of existence, but it's not a rule. It's like evil people live to be 100 and get away with it.
Well, for karma to really work, you need reincarnation, that's where the math goes into the unquantifiable. So for karma to really work, I mean, it could work in a very simple, mechanistic way, with just one life. But the idea is that there's different types of karma, so there's the karma that's happening right now.
This is like flowering karma, but there's karma like seeds of shit that you did a while ago. Like, when all of a sudden someone calls you up and is like, Hey, I'm your son, you're like, what? like, Yeah, I'm your kid.
That seed has been in you, and then it grows into the present moment, and then there's karma. That's the same idea, but from past lives. So that's where it gets really fucking weird, and I guess there's some, like, very blurry way.
You could connect that to epigenetics, you know what I mean? Epigenetics is sort of the way like you get reincarnation into biology, except it's obviously not reincarnation, it's your ancestors.
But it's essentially the same concept, except one is quantifiable, the other is mystical.
I wonder if epigenetics is if you're imparting some of your mind, some of your thinking to a child.
Yeah.
I wonder what effect it would have at the age you were when you had the child.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean, yeah.
Al Pacino's kid is going to be amazing.
Amazing.
He's 82.
82.
Shooting live rounds.
Incredible.
Into a 29-year-old hottie.
And people are fucking mad at him.
What are they mad at?
They're mad because they think, if you're that old –.
You're not going to be able to care for that child.
Well, that's one to me, that's the most logical. If you are going to be such an asshole that you're criticizing Al Pacino for procreating, don't you want more Pacinos? He's a great fucking actor.
But the other one is just like, that age gap is insurmountable.
Well, I don't think it was his idea. No, yeah, I think he, he didn't. He have a paternity test exclusive. This is a real special coming at this time. Al Pacino, 83, breaks silence to celebrate 29-year-old girlfriend's pregnancy after claims he demanded paternity test because she hoodwinked him.
Yeah, there it is. The actor revealed his girlfriend Noor Alfala was were expecting last week. Initial reports claim that Al was not pleased over the baby. But how do we know?
You know, it's like, people say things like that.
Because look right underneath it –.
Which he has now confirmed.
Underneath, it says, has voiced his delight.
Sources told Daily Mail that wasn't true, which is now confirmed, so that means it wasn't true.
Not true.
They didn't hoodwink him, see the way they phrase that, that's weird. Sources told Daily Mail that wasn't true, which he has now confirmed. But look at the headline, look at the headline.
It's so crazy, they're basically saying this is not true. So he's delighted to have a baby with his girlfriend. And so people made up this story and we read it because it's the headline.
Why not just be like, Al Pacino chopped his kid into bits and then underneath say he didn't chop his kid into bits?
Look, he's walking around, he's smiling, he looks great. Yeah, listen, man, them anti-aging doctors get them on the happy sauce, who knows?
Yeah, man, look at that.
He's wearing comfortable shoes, I would wear those shoes.
He's fucking cool, look at that.
I would wear those shoes, it's old men's shoes.
Wow.
Look at him, looks fine. he looks great. Is he going for walks?
How old is he?
83.
Who's that with him? I don't know.
I don't think I ever saw that, I don't think I ever saw that.
It was like their version, it was like when pulp fiction had just come out and everybody wanted everything to be fucking cool.
Okay.
And things became cool.
Yeah, I remember that. That's got to be cool for Tarantino to watch his shit echo out, to watch it shape culture. That's so badass that you could do that.
It's amazing, he's very important, He's very important because he's grandfathered in. His movies. Are fucking Bananas? Once upon a time in Hollywood was fucking crazy.
So great.
And he's grandfathered in in a way like, you know what a Tarantino movie is? Have you seen Kill Bill? Have you seen Inglourious Bastards? Have you seen these movies? Then shut the fuck up because you know what you're in for.
Whereas I think if you were a young director and that was your first film, people would go. The violence was so unnecessary, it was so egregious. It was so, you know, like the language, the way they talk, people would find criticism in it, I think.
Yeah, you see in interviews, he is so frustrated with the endless question he gets from hack reporters who are like, violence, what about the violence? He just is done with that? It must be so annoying to get that same question over to make great movies. When did journalism turn into scolding?
Because it wasn't the idea like you ask people questions. But there isn't a moral twist to it. Or am I imagining it?
No, you're not imagining it. Barbara Walters used to do it a little bit. She was kind of famous for being a tough interviewer. She'd interview people and ask them uncomfortable questions.
But it's like, when it's got that, it's not even like they're asking you questions about shit you lied about.
Right, they're making a moral judgment on you.
They're essentially saying, Why are you a bad person?
Right, why are you making movies that show horrible things? you're contributing to this horrible culture we have, which is not true. That doesn't really work, that correlation doesn't work, because when you look at some countries like, I think it's is it Japan that has a very high rate of? They play a lot of violent video games, but they have way less violence. Oh, yeah, right.
Is that it did, I read that? Like, they've tried to make correlations between violent video games and actual violence.
That is so dumb.
And some people think that it might actually have the opposite effect, that there is a potential in some humans that they play those violent video games. And they would get out any kind of wild, crazy instinct that they might have, like, just, I want you to imagine if epigenetics are real, yes.
There's a certain amount of us that are imparting memories of being in war to other kids.
Yeah.
And this is going into your baby and the mindset is going into your baby.
Yeah.
And it seems like that's an inescapable reality. If there's a thing like a video game that lets them express that part of their brain without actually having a desire to do it. Yeah, no judgments, but it almost makes sense that it would work to actually stop violence, right?
So the idea is like, what is promoting violence? and my answer to that is like being a human poverty.
You know, putting someone through a terrible life, yeah, forcing someone into bad situations, that's what creates all of it. And until we, it's like, very weird. The way we address the problem of violence.
Because we only look at it in terms of the action itself, we don't want to go all the way back to the source. No.
And try to fix the source.
Well, there's a big problem that happens when you start doing that is, instead of being able to transform violent people into one dimensional sociopathic creatures. Suddenly you like, get back far enough. And they're, I don't know, watching their mom and dad OD on heroin.
Yeah.
Or their, you know, whatever it is. And again, not to say we don't need prisons and justice and all that. But when you realize, Oh yeah, you're just looking at, like, a misplaced defense mechanism. That this human had to learn because of whatever they fucking came out of. Now, I'm not saying it's all sociopaths had horrific experiences.
I just looking at my own shitty defense mechanisms and then, like, going in therapy and connecting them to the past. It's easy to see where, like, the aspects of my personality that are not conducive to harmony came from. Yeah, it's just that, you know, the kids are fucking so tough.
They have to adapt.
Yeah, the kids adapt and they develop these weird defense mechanisms.
And then add to that the epigenetic component, and then that what the United States has been at war 93 of its history.
Yeah.
So now you're just looking at, like, some like.
Insane number of people, insane number that are transmitting memories of being at war. Yeah, and their children.
And, you know, that was my theory about why history was so barbaric. But if you go far back enough, the pyramids so, like, what happened between then and then? and like, say, the Mongols, what happened?
What was the transition?
Why did people get so barbaric? I think they're the people that survived the impact.
Right?
I think when the younger Dryas impact happened, if it happened 11,800 years ago, I believe, I think the people that survived that were fucking monsters because they had to be right.
I bet there was, I bet it was a total breakdown of any civilization. That's why civilization doesn't really pop up again. For 6,000 years. Yeah, I think for thousands of years we were monsters.
Dude, it's so funny that on our planet are all of these megastructures that we just are like, I don't really know. It's just that always blows my mind.
That, like all over the planet.
Yeah.
Signs.
Did you see that one I posted on Instagram the other day?
No.
Oh my god, this is fucking insane.
What is it, um?
Shit.
What, where did I leave? My phone? you've got? There's a phone right there.
Where? oh, where, it was hidden by my mic, sorry.
I'm going to send it to Jamie right now because you got it, yeah, so.
Check this out, give me some volume on this.
Central Java's lush Kedu plains. In pursuit of this mythical peak near the little settlement of Burra. They chopped and burned the strangling vegetation for six weeks and removed tons of volcanic ash. What they discovered were marvelous figures cut in stone, thousands of them hidden beneath the volcanic jungle. Believed to have been built in the 8th and 9th century, the Barobidir Temple is an uncontested marvel whose intricate architecture continues to confound scholars.
Despite being one of the most important sites on Java. There is no written record of who erected it or what its intended purpose was. Because there are no inscriptions or dates on the monument, historians must make educated guesses as to when it was most likely created. The dating estimates are based purely off of architectural comparisons found elsewhere in Indonesia. Given the magnitude of the construction, it appears remarkable that no ruler or dynasty took credit for it. Barobidir is the world's biggest Buddhist temple, and yet nobody knows who built it.
Wow.
That's cool.
Yeah, Jamie, I'm sending you another one right now. I mean, there's a bunch of these things, there's a bunch of things like that. They're just like, I don't know.
Who made this?
Okay, what are your thoughts on mud flood?
What's mud flood?
Mud flood theory.
Oh, I think that goes along with the younger Dryas impact theory. Check this out, though, real quick. I want you to watch this because this is fucking bananas. Same account.
We set out to empty ponds that residents said were bottomless. The Longyu caves, located in the village of Xianbeijun in Zhejiang province, China, are a massive and majestic ancient underground world. The Longyu Caves, also known as the Shaonan High Stone Chambers, are thought to date back to at least 2,000 years and represent one of the largest underground excavations of ancient times. As well as an ongoing mystery that has confounded scientists from every discipline that has researched them. Scientists from archaeology, architecture, engineering and geology around the world have no understanding who or why the Longyu caves were carved into the Earth.
Currently, 24 hand-carved caves encompassing a staggering 30,000 square meters have been found so far. Each grotto is carved into solid siltstone and descends roughly 30 meters down, with stone rooms, bridges, gutters and ponds. The Longyu caves are supported by pillars that are evenly dispersed throughout the caves and the walls. Ceiling and stone columns are uniformly decorated with chisel marks in a pattern of parallel lines and ornate designs. Despite their magnitude and the work required to build them, no indication of their construction or even their existence has been discovered in archival sources. Despite the fact that the whole excavation involved about a million cubic meters of stone, there is no archaeological evidence explaining where that amount of stone went, nor is there evidence of the work being done.
Furthermore, there isn't a single historical source that mentions them, which is extremely remarkable given the scope of the undertaking. Despite decades of analysis, the Longyu Caves mystery remains essentially unsolved.
Like, nobody builds something that big underground just for fun, like, you know what I mean, there's a. I think we burrowed in, we had to.
Like, whatever happened, or maybe something happened, and then we were so scared it would happen again. We created.
That's like an ancient survival shelter.
Well, they have them in Turkey as well, there's these giant. Is that where it was where Randall told us about?
Dude, those are crazy, those are crazy with like, air ducts and just insane, and it's like, you don't do that unless you have to.
Right, you don't burrow like a human ant hive, ant nest.
Yeah, these things, like the amount of resources it took to do what these people did. These are huge chambers carved into stone.
And the truth?
They think that the sky was like fucking raining lightning at one point.
Yeah, pole shift, I mean. To me, the really eerie thing about all of this is the information gap. It's that we have this massive like the hard drive has been, like, fragmented from....
Like, we just don't know.
But thank God, they made everything out of stone. The thing about it is, whatever their technology was that existed to make the pyramids, it was different. We make everything out of metal and glass, and that shit's not going to be here in 10,000 years, it's just not going to be here. It'll all get destroyed by just mother nature.
It'll just eventually get.
Like, I think they've done like analysis of like, how much of a city will be around after 500 years, of how much, and after 1,000 years. Well, Detroit is a great example.
You see what happens in Detroit. Yeah, houses are just getting taken over by trees. yeah, trees go through the roof.
They grow through the floor, they're literally devouring the homes, the homes that are abandoned are getting eaten by trees. So cool, it's very cool.
But it shows you it didn't take.
I mean, nature has a long lifespan. It doesn't give a fuck if it takes 100 years to reclaim a house or to take a house back. Just get the roots of the tree to start busting through. Everything's rained on.
The wood's soggy, it just breaks apart.
It eats everything, it eats everything, assimilates everything. You know, there's like this, humans have this interesting, like temporal blindness.
Like, the way time passes for us produces the illusion of solidity. And so that makes that confuses people because they think that there's permanence here. When, if we could just see if we lived longer and we could see time faster. We would feel like we were in some kind of like ocean, of like undulating matter, with these voids in it that we hang out in, like little bubbles in the ocean.
That's what we build our houses in. We wouldn't look at this place as solid, we wouldn't think of it as like, permanent. This is why everyone was so, like, fucked up by the pandemic. It's because, you know, you watch enough TV, you buy into the permanence of civilization. Suddenly, civilization, like, has a little rumble.
Like a little rat.
Like a house that needs some kind of serious repair, it shifts on its, it shifts a little bit. And everyone was, like, reminded, Yeah, this doesn't last any more than any of that shit lasted.
And I think that's very disturbing for people who've really anchored themselves in some notion of permanence here. Yeah, freaks people out.
Well, I think that was a great ad for psilocybin.
Yes.
Psilocybin, that's what that was, that was an awesome ad for psilocybin.
Ozempic now has psilocybin in it, which is incredible.
That's better, that's better you realize why you're fat.
It'll show you everything, it'll show you all the wires.
You need it.
Underneath the board.
Dude, the whole thing like this is one of the really funny things about humans. We are capable of ignoring internal realities. Like, we can somehow distract ourselves from the obvious cause of our suffering. And equate it with a million other things than just what it actually is. Like, dude, I got so fat during the pandemic, fatter than I've ever been, it wasn't a mystery to me.
Right, like, I knew why I was fat. But like, it is curious that like, there's a way that you can just kind of like, ignore that, or like, when I was drinking too much, you can ignore that. You're waking up with, like a low-level flu every morning.
Like, you can somehow ignore it. It's so interesting.
And it's common most people do it, especially because it's so fun to party.
It's so fun.
When they're out there partying and getting lit, it's a good time.
It is a great—.it is outside of the way it makes you feel the next day. I mean, what a wonderful high. I think what sucks about alcohol as a drug is that—.
It's a depressant.
It's a depressant. And if you just do like one drink and practice mindfulness with that and watch, you realize, like this sucks. Like it goes away real quick. It lasts, I don't know, 45 minutes, an hour, then you want to go back up.
Right? But your liver can't process it enough, and that's where the hangover comes from. It's like,—.
Well, it's also dehydration.
Dehydration.
And glutathione You can mitigate some of that with glutathione.
I saw that, I saw that on Twitter.
Yeah.
Liposomal glutathione, I think, is the best. that's some stuff you squirt under your tongue and you like, hold there and it gets into your bloodstream better. But IV is the best. If you can get an IV glutathione, that's the best.
Dude, if you're drinking so much that you're getting IVS like, you got to think about that.
Or, if you want to continue having a good time, but you want to take care of your body, get an IV.
You know what? Listen, listen, I sound like a prude. I don't care if people out there—.
No, you don't sound like a prude, you sound like Duncan Churchill right now. This is who you are right now, this is where you are, honestly in your life, and at other points in your life, you've been different.
Right, that's normal, that's how all of us are.
Incarnation Yeah.
And that's why when you see someone who makes a turn for the best, like, you see good things happen to them. And they have a sparkle in their eye and they're excited, yeah, you get excited, too, it's fun.
It's great, right? because it isn't great if you're always like that, it's really great if you figure it out. It's like, if your life has been kind of fucked and then you went, What am I doing?
Right, and then pieced it back together again. Then you're thankful every day, then you're appreciative every day, yeah.
It's like, those negative things are actually, they can be positive.
Absolutely, dude, this is another like, this is the other thing. Like, we focus on half of what's really happening, like people focus on the light and what's good and when things are going right for them. Completely ignoring the fact that, like, in general, when shit's going bad, like, that's the stuff that's made you interesting, like down the road, that's what the stories are told about.
That's like what the jokes are written about, not the good times, like the bad times. That's the fertilizer, man. Yeah, there's a saying, no mud, no lotus.
You ever heard that before? Oh, no.
I like that, though.
And the two are completely connected. Like, especially if you zoom out of time, yeah, and you'll realize you're growing out of your worst moment, hopefully for the better, yeah.
And the worst moment actually made you smarter, it made you like, appreciate life more, it made you like less. Like. Dude, once I got my ball cut off, that was a fucking game changer, dude. Because, like, you just learn how to be in the present moment.
Like, you can't get off, like your illusion of immortality is destroyed. Yeah, and you need that, like, it's really not good if you think you're going to live forever.
I think that's one of the good things about jujitsu. You almost get close to death. Oh, yeah, all the time, yeah.
You know, and you're so exhausted that it's easier to live in the moment you're so less anxious, right? I mean, I know I'm fucking beating a dead horse, but I think people need physical struggle.
Not just even exercise, I think you need exercise, but you need exercise that's rigorous.
Right?
You know, and if you can only do walks, that's cool, do that. It's definitely better than not doing that. walks are great.
Look at Al Pacino, he looked great out there, I bet he's got a trainer.
Look, I—.
The point is, like, it helps your anxiety, it helps what you think in a big way. And I'm thinking about it right now because I hurt my back a couple days ago, like, actually, it's about a week now. Dead lifting.
Shouldn't have done it.
That will fuck you up.
Stupid, stupid.
And it's not bad, but it's annoying, and it's waking me up to this like reality of what happens when you don't work out for a few days. Because I haven't really been able to work out and I just started doing some stuff, I found out I can do some stuff.
I just got to be careful because I don't want to re-aggravate it, you know, because I don't want it to take longer than it. So two days in a row I didn't work out, which is really rare for me. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I don't feel good.
Like, I feel like, ugh.
I feel like, shitty, I feel off, yeah, you know, like even the sun's not like pepping me up.
I go outside, stare at the sun. It's a beautiful day. Yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful clouds in the sky.
I'm like, Eh? And I'm like, Oh, you little pussy, you have to work out, you have to work out, right?
Oh my god. So now this is how—imagine that times like 20 years for some people of eating shitty, too. Yeah, not even eating good, right?
And then not working out, right? And that's most people.
And so your, like normal reality—.
Yeah.
—Is this like you're in a kind of decayed building you haven't been? —It's like walking the dog, you know what I mean, like, if you don't take your dog for walks, what happens to the dog? gets nervous.
Yeah, gets weird, right?
Gets depressed.
Your body is your dog. Yeah, right, like, you know, so it's going to do the same thing. It just gets all freaked out.
My dog needs exercise, he loves it, he loves it. I pick up that fucking ball, I have a ball thrower.
It's like a with a ball on the end of it, so you can really chuck it. He gets so pumped.
It's a great dog, man.
I go, dude, I got the ball, He's like, No way I go, it's right here. He's like, No, we're going to chase the ball. I'm like, Fuck yeah.
So I get him all hyped up first, I get all excited.
Yeah, I get him excited.
Yeah, I get excited. I go. Oh, here we go, here we go. He loves it.
Dude, my fucking poodle loves to get the ball, will not bring it back.
You got to train him to do that.
Oh man, I've tried.
Retrievers, they do it instantly.
Yeah, they just send them.
Marshall did it from the time he was a little bitty bitty puppy. I'd throw something for him, he'd grab it and bring it right back. He didn't want to let it go, but he wanted to bring it back. But if you say, come on, drop it.
Drop it, drop it. hey, come on dude, come on dude, he'll drop it.
Drop it.
But then he's looking at you, like, he's smiling. He wants to play a little tug-of-war, so I'll play a little tug-of-war with him, he's so playful.
Dude, that is definitely the coolest dog I've ever met. He's amazing. That is a mystical creature. He's amazing. It's like you're being visited by some kind of magic dog.
Dude so happy.
He's so happy, and when I watch TV, he just hops up and cuddles. He just wants to cuddle with me when I watch TV. Yeah, that's what he does.
He used to be a wolf.
Yeah, this is a photo on his Instagram. The most recent photo that we put up. This is me watching TV, and Homeboy just hops up to hang out with me. That's what he does.
So sweet.
He hops up and he cuddles with you, he wants to cuddle, he's just all love everybody. You come over to the house like you never met him before, He's like, you're my favorite person.
You see this, this is going to be the aliens posing with us in about 50 years.
I hope I don't have to wear a collar, I'll be a good boy, I won't run into traffic.
You're going to have to prove yourself first.
I used to love to take him with no leash when I lived in California because I'd take him in the canyons and we'd run around. But unfortunately, that's a little more problematic where I live. But I think dogs, they need something, man, they need exercise, they need love.
They're like a little version of you in some strange way, and they're a reflection of the owner in some strange way.
Do you buy into the idea that dogs and their owners kind of start looking like each other?
People always say that I don't think I look like Marshall, he doesn't look like me, but he's the sweetest.
He does when you have your rough, rough costume on.
I don't. That's the original Marshall, that's a wolf, that's what's crazy, that that used to be a wolf, right?
That someone took the most ferocious, predatory beast of the forest that operates in packs. And they communicate telepathically, and they turn that thing into this adorable love's punch.
Dude, okay, when was the last time this connects? When was the last time you read? One flew over the cuckoo's nest.
Oh, it's been a long time.
Okay, I think I must have read it when I was in high school and just didn't pay attention. It's completely different from the movie, like 100 different.
Maybe I never read it.
Ken Kesey, he was like,-.
Ken Kesey wrote it Yeah, oh, no way.
So it's so psychedelic, the book is so psychedelic.
The idea is that the character of McMurphy, Jack Nicholson's character. And again, this is my own analysis, I don't know what the actual literary analysis of it is. He represents an undomesticated human, and the people in the ward are humans that couldn't function in what he calls society, the combine, they couldn't function in the combine.
So they're being brought into the asylums to get re-domesticated so they could function in the combine. And he represents an undomesticated human who enters into a conditioning center. Designed to melt people back down, build them back up and send them out into the world and be good functioning. Domesticated humans. It's so good, it's so subversive, dude.
It's such a brilliant, it's so funny how different the movie is from it, like nurse ratched. And again, because the narrator is chief, that big Native American dude who's in the movie, that's the narrator of the book. It's being told from his perspective.
So you don't know how much of what he's reporting is real and how much it's like he's in a mental asylum.
Oh my god.
That's amazing, I know.
It's so good.
But according to him, nurse ratched can control time.
She'll speed up time so that like a year goes by in a day, or slow down time so that, like a second lasts like 10 years. And that's just one of the many ways that she's basically torturing the people in the ward.
Oh my god.
Constantly giving them drugs, tying them to their beds, and always this threat, this like threat is hovering. Which is, if you fuck up too much, if you get too angry at nurse Ratched. Who is a monster? Essentially the way he describes it, it's the demure, just the antichrist. Then you know what happens. They're going to fucking give you a lobotomy, they're going to cut out your brain, turn you into a zombie.
Oh, my God, and you know, they really did that.
Yeah.
They really did that.
They really did that.
They really did that.
I had a professor in college who used to work at an asylum and was the weirdest dude ever. It was an awful class on, like psychiatry.
And he was kind of talking glowingly about lobotomies and like someone asked him, like, I mean, what happened to the person? And he goes. They became a very good patient. Oh my God, totally was fine with the fact that they were like sticking chopsticks and people's brains severing the brain.
Dude with a hammer wearing that weird outfit. why are they dressed like that?
And, you know, they did a lot of those.
He did it, this guy, this doctor, is credited with the majority, so are they holding this guy down while they're doing this, or is he anesthetized? I don't know, I don't see any anesthesia.
I see a strap.
I see straps and I see people holding his arms. Jesus Christ, you know how fucking terrifying that must be to feel that rod going into your brain and knowing they're going to turn you into a vegetable, yeah.
Electroshock.
Dude, do you remember that guy that was running for vice president who had to admit that he went through electroshock therapy?
No.
Yes, it was during the McGovern-Nixon campaign. Eagleton, Eagleton, It was McGovern's campaign, right?
Yeah, McGovern was like one of the last hopes, he was one of the last, like, truly rational. What you really want out of someone that you consider a liberal, someone who's a compassionate, strong person?
Who? People thought that, you know, he could win, they thought that he could win, yeah. And it says. 72 weeks after the 1972 Democratic Convention, Eagleton admitted the truth of news reports that he had received electroshock therapy for clinical depression during the 1960s. McGovern initially said he would back Eagleton 100, 1,000 rather, but he didn't.
He eventually had to let him go, and then it was too late.
Wait, that's what took him out.
That's what took him out. Whoa, yeah. Electroshock therapy for depression, just for depression.
Don't people say it works?
You would be awarded if you had depression today, today, in this victimhood society, if you said this vice president. He suffered from clinical depression, but he sought help. He would be a shining example. Look at him, yeah, he's like us.
He was clinically depressed, he got over it. He's a hero, yeah, and then people would be fine with it.
Yeah, back then.
Back then, it was a giant sign of weakness and they would shock your brain.
I think it works. Whoa, let's try it. It doesn't have good results, I would rather not.
Maybe it's like smelling salt.
Have you watched videos of it? Because it's not like they're vaulting you the whole time, they put these rods on your head and you convulse for a second. It's very disturbing to watch.
Maybe it's like a reset like control alt delete for your brain.
Maybe it's like, Yeah, maybe it's doing something similar to what the psychedelics are doing.
Maybe it's bringing you to a near-death experience because your body thinks it's being electrocuted. Maybe it releases all of those psychedelic chemicals that they think it releases when you're in near-death experiences.
Did you see that? They think they found the mechanism for why psilocybin treats depression? They did some study on rat brains and a Petri dish, and they were watching the way it interacts with psilocybin. It blocks. Yeah, this is wild.
Is this someone getting zapped? Yeah.
Nice hat for shocking people.
You have to wear a hat.
Yeah, but you don't need to have popcorn bags.
Look, her toe's locked up. Look, she got knocked out.
That's the receipt.
There's old ones that really show the whole thing.
Dude.
I wanted to bring something up, but I kept forgetting. I didn't want to interrupt your rant. I posted something, I retweeted something the other day about this boy that was raised by wolves in India, yeah.
Have you ever seen that?
No.
See if you can find that from a few days ago, I retweeted it.
I want to know if it's true. I felt like I was too lazy to google it. I was like, I'm just bringing up another podcast. Yeah, well, I just retweeted it.
I take no responsibility for retweets.
It's the best way to fact check is just tweet something.
Also, retweets for me are just like, Hmm, I think this is interesting, maybe you will, too, right? That's what I do it for, so this is it.
The Wolf Child in 1889.
Wow, how do you say that word?
Balandeshar.
Balandeshar Balandeshar region of the Indian Forest. There resided Dina Sanichar, a feral child of merely six years old. Sanichar lived amidst a wolf pack. Adapting to their ways and partaking in their activities, this remarkable case serves as a vivid demonstration of the impact of environmental factors on human behavior.
It exemplifies how the availability of resources. The upbringing environment and the ability to adapt to surroundings during childhood can shape an individual's physical and mental abilities, ultimately ensuring survival. I mean, this is kind of what we've been talking about.
Yeah, totally, man.
Look at that kid, look at his face, that's crazy.
I mean, this is probably why you should be very careful about who your friends are. Because, like, you know, maybe we look like our dogs, but definitely, like in a group of friends. You like warp, you will shift into like something that like, harmonizes with all of them.
How about girls who, like, become boyfriends with serial killers, and they go and kill people together? They pick up girls and kill them together?
So crazy.
People have done that.
Crazy.
Like, that's a real thing that's happened more than once. Where a guy will be a serial killer and he'll convert his girlfriend to becoming a serial killer, and they kill people together.
What does that conversation start off like?
According to Snopes, the only thing that's not true about that story is that he wasn't the only kid. Oh wow, he was at least one of two. At that time, they found. Wow, there might have been a couple more.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Oh my God, raised by wolves.
You know?
Look at him.
It's like he got trained by a wolf. It's the reverse situation. Look at that.
He took up the habit of smoking cigarettes.
Wouldn't you if you were surrounded by wolves for your whole childhood? I couldn't even relax.
What the fuck? At least five other. Did he learn how to talk and everything? No, it said that he never learned how to speak.
Wow, damn.
Wow, this reminds me of that video we played a few times from Dark, white, Underbelly. That family, yeah.
The boy in Sleeman's story died within five.
Died a few months after being brought back to human society. Whoa couldn't deal with it.
He smoked out of the wolf's den. Where did he get cigarettes?
No, did he. Is that what they're saying?
It said he smoked out of the wolf's den. That's kind of weird, right?
So he lived in the wolf's den, they kept him there.
Look, where was it? Scroll, Wait, the boy in Sleeman's story, the boy who smoked out of the wolf's den, died a few months after being brought back to human society.
No, it says, like, was smoked out of the wolf's den.
Oh, what?
I'm picturing it like, smoke him out, like George Bush, we're going to smoke him out of their holes.
Okay, I gotcha he wasn't like....
Remember when W said that, Oh my God, we're going to smoke him out of their holes?
Oh my god dude, did you see that weird shit with Lindsey Graham? Like the way he's like, we're going to kill Russians like, it's the creepiest shit you ever saw. Did you see that?
No, I didn't.
Dude, it's so spooky.
Let me see it.
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