#2073 - Derek, More Plates More Dates
2023-12-07 03:07:11
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Good to see you again.
Yeah, you as well.
Do you do cold punch? We were just talking about it.
Yeah, it's something that I do occasionally, but I don't have one at my place, so it's not a regular part of my routine, but I would like it to be, and I guess I could do the cold shower thing, but it's... Do you live in an apartment? Yeah. From my understanding, it's not, as, I don't know, effective overall to like, you want to be fully immersed and kind of get the full experience.
Yeah, it's... I don't think it's as effective, but it's pretty effective, especially you live in the fucking frozen communist shithole of Canada. Yeah, yeah. It's cold, you get real cold water.
When's the last time you've been up there?
I don't go up there anymore.
You refuse, right?
Yeah, I just fucking... What they've done up there, what they did with the trucker rally, and what Trudeau's doing with guns, and what they're trying to clamp down on censorship on the internet, that guy can eat shit. Like, that place needs 100% an overhaul of government. They're sliding down that dangerous road of communism. It scares the shit out of me.
Yeah, I... It's funny, because even though I'm in Canada, it seems like the political, the prevalence of political information and media, is so much lesser than what goes on in the States, because it's just far more interesting. But even the alternatives that I'm aware of on the political side of things that are trying to get Trudeau out and replace him, not much better. from my understanding. It seems like everyone's...
Every time I go on Twitter, I see Jordan Peterson shitting on some other guy who's, like, the next best option, apparently.
Well, he likes that Pierre guy. What's that guy's name?
I don't know.
Pierre Polivere? What is his name? There's the guy who's the.
reasonable Republican-type character, or conservative character. What is the... Yeah, Pierre Polivere. That guy's very smart.
Okay.
He's very interesting. There's a really funny video. I don't know if you ever saw it, but...
He's eating an apple, and he's talking to this reporter, and the reporter keeps asking him really stupid questions. Like, what do you mean by that? Like, what does that mean? Like, he catches this reporter. Like, says who?
Who's saying this? And it's... Have you seen that video?
I've never seen it.
Jameel.
Currently, you're obviously taking the populist pathway.
What does that mean?
Well, appealing to people's more emotional levels, I would guess. I mean, certainly... Give me an example. Certainly, you tap very strong ideological language quite frequently. Like what?
Left wing, you know, this, and that. Right wing, you know, I mean... It's like just buzzwords. I never really talk about left or right. I don't really believe in that.
Okay.
Taking a...
It's a longer conversation, but it's very interesting because it just shows you the level of... The level of sophistication these fucking dopey reporters that are covering this kind of shit. Now, they are just trying to always play gotchish stuff.
The title was, Does It Hurt Him? I wonder what the consensus is of like the average Canadian. if they think it's, oh, this guy's legit, or if they're like, this guy, doesn't care about us at all.
It's a good question. I mean, I think propaganda affects everyone. And I think Canadian propaganda is a little more tightened down in control. What they did with the truckers, like, for example, like the way Trudeau just openly labeled them as racist and misogynist. And then when people were donating to this trucker movement, when they were trying to, you know, have this protest, they closed down people's bank accounts.
who donated. I mean, that is third world country shit. The fact that they think they can do that in Canada is insane.
Have you seen the ban of news in Canada to where, if you're located in Canada, you can't access news outlets now because the news outlets or the social media platforms featuring the news outlets refuse to pay Canada their own fee, essentially. So, if I'm in Canada and I go on Instagram and try to go to a news page that's outside of Canadian media, it'll literally say, can't view, unavailable in Canada. Yeah, it's crazy.
That's nuts. That's like China. I mean, it's literally like what they do in foreign countries that are run by dictators.
Yeah, yeah, dude. The bills, it seems like every couple of weeks there's some new gong show bill that everyone says is going to, you know, wipe out creators off social media or force you to make Canadian content only, which is like this super nebulous thing that you have no idea. Am I only going to be able to talk about, like maple syrup and beavers and shit? Or like, what's it going to be? You don't know.
So that's a concern as somebody on YouTube especially. Yeah. Yeah, but...
Yeah, I've heard, concerning things, that my podcast, at one point in time, might not even be available in Canada because of this. Yeah. That's a concern that this could be used in that manner to stop people from accessing podcasts, especially if I'm openly critical of that shithole communist government.
Oh yeah, you definitely won't be on there. Yeah. If you make Canadian enough content, then you'll get promoted though.
Yeah, okay. I'll start talking about hockey.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll start talking about George St. Pierre and hockey.
Yeah. Does George still live in Canada or...?
I believe he does. He's here a lot. He's here in Austin a lot because he trains with the Donaher squad, you know, Gordon, Ryan and those guys. So they're all out here.
He's retired, but like what's his current lifestyle now? Is it just like training and social media or...?
Well, you know, fortunately George is a man of leisure because he made a shitload of money fighting, and so he's really well off and he doesn't have to do anything, but he does enjoy traveling and training, and the guy still is involved in martial arts as just a vehicle for developing his life. So he is super fit. I mean like top-notch fit. The guy still does this rigorous exercise routine. He still trains with all of the...
Like. these guys are professional jiu-jitsu competitors. So with the Donaher team, it's a very unusual team. I know you've covered Gordon and his steroid use and all that jazz. Yeah, yeah.
And what I like about Gordon is he's fucking super open about it. Yeah, yeah. Like. he's not hiding shit. Yeah.
He's like, look, everybody does it. This is what I do. I'm the best. Yeah. And everybody's like, but...
No.
Yeah. But what they do is they train 365 days a year.
That's wild.
Yes. And that's one of the reasons why you need steroids. Yeah. Like that is not physically possible. with a normal endocrine system, to be recovering from six and eight-hour workouts every day, 365 days a year.
You're going to get breakdown. There's just no... I mean, I don't give a fuck how many ice baths you take. You know? These guys are training all day long.
They're doing different levels of training, right? So they're doing weightlifting training. So most of Gordon's work, Gordon's girlfriend was a professional bodybuilder. And so most of his is just size and build. It's not really like functional training.
Like you see the old videos of Alexander Karelin. Do you know who he is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you see that guy doing kettlebells and fucking, you know, shield casts with giant steel plates over his head. Gordon's not doing any of that stuff. It's a lot of bodybuilding stuff. They do that. Then they're doing drills where they're just analyzing positions and finding problems in these positions.
And they'll go over tape. I mean, it's fucking meticulous, man. I mean, you have to have... I don't know if they're on Adderall, but I would imagine that would help. But something is very different about the way they train.
And then they're drilling. And then they're doing... Of course, they're doing live sparring. So they're doing... They're rolling.
They're, you know, they're going from certain positions. They have goals to get to a certain position or to avoid a certain position. And they're advancing faster than any group of jiu-jitsu people on the planet Earth. But you have to be a fucking maniac. You have to be a 365 day a year, fully committed.
You miss nothing. I don't give a fuck about your holidays. No one gives a fuck about Christmas. Fuck you, it's your birthday. Get in there.
Everybody's in there.
Is the goal... Like, I've seen them on UFC Fight Pass and some of these new, more... They seem to be expanding in their reach. What is, like, the goal of the top guys in that sport? Is it typically to just stay at the top of the sport or do a lot of them transition to MMA at some point?
A lot of them will transition. But a lot of them don't want brain damage. You know? They just don't... You know, I don't think...
Gordon makes so much money doing just jiu-jitsu. I mean, he makes millions of dollars every year just selling videos.
It's crazy how he still has... Is it, like, actual DVDs? Like, he has, like, media he sells in, like, DVD format, I think?
I don't believe so. I think it's a digital download.
I would assume, yeah. I could have sworn. somebody said he, like, sold physical DVDs.
I'm sure he probably does that as well, but I don't even know if I have a DVD. Yeah, me neither.
That's why it seemed odd to me.
Which is so crazy because I would have never thought that a physical media player was just going to go away.
Oh, yeah.
Everything would just be in the fucking air.
Yeah, yeah. No, it's wild to see... If you look at the evolution of consoles over the past, like, 20 years, it's, like, these, little wild... I guess now would be perceived as, like, totally foreign to Gen Z or whatever.
Well, I'm old as fuck, dude. When I was a kid, I remember Pong. Yeah. I was a little kid, and you could play a game on the television, and it was nuts. Yeah.
Nobody could believe it. And you had, like, this little dot that would go doot-doot, and you would, like, with your little scroll wheel, you would roll your paddle up to hit the dot doot-doot, doot-doot, doot-doot, and me and my sister would play Pong, and we were like, this is crazy. We're playing on TV. We're playing a video game on TV.
When's the... What's the last game that you were into? Or did you, like, stop yourself after... It was? Doom, right?
No, it was Quake.
Or Quake, sorry.
Yeah. Well, I didn't stop myself. Jamie and I and Jeff, a few years back, we had a local area network room in our old studio in L.A., and it got to be a real problem where it's just too much fun. So we would get out of a podcast at, you know, 3-ish, and I would be playing until 6, 7 at night, and then I'd go home, and I didn't feel... I'd get out of there.
I'd be frazzled. Your adrenaline's frying.
You're like,
Jesus Christ, I feel fucking terrible.
Yeah. It's like, have you ever heard of Super Smash Bros before? Okay, so my girlfriend got me what was, I guess, the best and worst gift at the same time. A couple years ago, it was a Nintendo Switch for Christmas, and that game, and I pretty much swore off games years ago because I just knew once I got into them, it's going to fuck my days. It very much saps my bandwidth, and the dopamine hit you get from it is insane.
It's like a drug, essentially. Insane. So I played it, and it's probably the most addictive thing in my life right now. So I'm highly considering just getting rid of it and getting it out of my house. It's almost like junk food where you have to keep it out of the house to not go ham on it.
With the games, it's the same thing, dude. And the graphics now, and all the colors and the vibrancy and everything, compared to Pong back in the day, I can just imagine what it does to your expectation of dopamine hits. and then what other stuff in life feels like reward-wise, proportionally to it. It's probably like fucking night and day compared to the Pong days.
Night and day. We were playing Quake Champions, right? And this is a game that you play, you have headphones on, and you can hear sounds behind you. You can hear them to the right, to the left. Super sophisticated.
When you're running through the water, you hear splashing sounds. You have immersive graphics. You're running through these tunnels and rockets are flying over your head and it lights the wall as the rockets are missing you. I mean, the shadows, everything. It's so insanely vivid and so fun.
This is Quake.
Oh, damn.
And this is how fast it moves, too. And when you shoot people, they turn into fucking mist. Look at that.
Quad is quad power. That gives you four times the power.
Imagine playing this for hours a day.
And it's just like playing in teams where there's no real end in sight, because you never win the game. You just keep playing.
Yeah, you start a new game. Over and over. Over and over and over again. And then you can hop on these servers. So if you're at home by yourself, you can just hop on a server and there's always people playing.
Is this the most recent iteration of the game?
Yeah, this is the most recent. It's so exciting.
It's wild because
This is what you're playing? Oh, yeah.
Dude, so this game is brutal because it has seemingly infinite amounts of maps. There's probably like look at that shit. All the colors and stuff. It's like your brain doesn't even know how to process it at first. And there's I don't know how many characters, like almost a hundred or something.
And it's essentially the main or the most sought after characters, or protagonists and antagonists or whatever from major video games. So you're basically getting to play with every most popular character of every game ever. essentially. So, even if you win a game, the amount of iterations of maps and players and different things you can do, it never really gets stale. So you're just sitting there over and over grinding through this thing with no end in sight.
And the wild thing too is, oftentimes I'm just playing against a computer, but I'll actually get pissed off when I lose. Like I have to avenge myself and go beat the computer. So I'll be like, I'm going to stay here until I beat this fucking guy. Even though it's not even a human.
And then I'll burn an hour. I'll be like, and that was my mentally sharp, you know, one of, however, many hours.
Well, there's so many of these games like this and there's so many different styles of game. If you're into this style of game or if you're into like Half-Life, you ever play Half-Life?
Heard of it, seen it, never played it, though.
It's a game about, like some science experiment gone wrong that opens up some portal and aliens come out and you got to fight them, and it's, it's in this laboratory and it's, and it's, these games are so immersive. They're just, they're just so, it's like you're playing a movie that you're participating in with insane graphics, and they're, they're really well mapped out and planned out and they make them really challenging and exciting. And if you're a person that's into those things, like you, don't, fuck all your free time, it's gone. Yeah. It's gone.
There's a lot of people that make good livings out of it, which is the crazy thing, though.
I know, that's what's weird now.
So it's like, how, it's almost hard, I don't even know what it would be like as a parent to argue with your kid about if it's a good use of time or not. Right. Because it's like, the kid could be like, I'm making more money than every other fucking kid in my class.
I might, they might be making more money than their parents.
Yeah, literally. Yeah,
if your dad has some, you gotta get a job, some.
have you seen how many Twitch subscribers I have?
Yeah. Well, yeah, you could, if you become popular and play games online, you can make a substantial living. So if your kid was playing golf and the kid said, I want to be a professional golfer, you're like, well, are you winning tournaments? Do you have a chance here? Like, maybe this is a good career path for you, Johnny.
Yeah. But no parent wants to go, what the fuck are you doing? League of Legends? Yeah. My son's a League of Legends player on Twitch.
What? Yeah. Oh, what did you do?
Yeah. And you get, you sit there and just rack up donations while you play. Yeah. The thing that's wild to me, and obviously, people enjoy doing this, so I'm not, you know, shitting on it necessarily, but I can't fathom doing this myself, is sitting there and watching somebody play for hours. But this is literally how it supports them as a creator, is watching the live stream.
So this means that there's thousands of people at home eating dinner or just sitting there and watching a guy play rather than playing themselves. I'm just like...
I would've never imagined that that would be a gigantic thing like this.
Yeah. Because oftentimes, when you're playing too, your commentary is surface level, because you're trying to focus, especially if you're really good. So you're just watching a guy concentrate and play and not really engage with you in any meaningful way, and you're just sitting there as an observer and somehow finding it worthwhile to chuck money at the guy, sit there and watch him for hours. I don't know.
I just can't fathom it. And then there's a whole industry of hot girls in their underwear playing video games.
Yeah. Or like, I think there's a whole section on, I don't know if you've ever seen Twitch, it's a platform I'm so not familiar with, but I should, for, you know, to understand what's going on with the gaming market. But like, it's, like hot tub streamers or like inflatable pool streamers and these chicks just like put on a live stream and then get in a bathing suit and sit in a like inflatable pool in their house and just like wait around and talk to you, I guess, and rack up millions over the year.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Some will sell the water that they were in. It's just like multi-level supply chain management.
They'll sell the water and bottle it up in front of you in mason jars. Literally. This one's for you, Doug.
It's funny because you say that as a joke, but it's actually what happens.
Oh, my god.
Yeah, and they make bank off it.
The number of incels buying pond water Twitch streamers.
Yeah. No, I can't, even, I can't imagine like what mindset you would have to be in to justify that purchase, you know?
You gotta be really obsessed with that.
jar of the mason jar and then you like jerk off to the water? Probably. I don't get it. Yeah.
Probably use the water to jerk off with.
Utility right there.
Yeah, there you go. I guess. I'm just guessing. Maybe they put it on a shelf. That's Debbie's water.
Yeah.
She's my favorite Twitch streamer.
Could be an investment, I suppose, but I can't imagine that playing out.
I don't believe that will be a worthwhile investment, but but it's like like what are the numbers of men in 2023 that are single? It's something absurd. It's an enormously large number of people that are single today as opposed to in the.
past. Yeah, I've seen Chris Williamson has, like, he, often posts like random statistics that he sees and sometimes the numbers, I don't know where these surveys come from, because they're often the most wildly specific.
things or we?
surveyed men and 40 percent of.
them are like who are these dudes? But I believe it. So it's pretty wild. some of the stats that.
I see this headline and I have a different.
interpretation of it, though. Most young men are single in 2023.. Most women are not. It's like when you ask the guys are like no, I'm not tied up, but the.
girls like no, yeah.
we're dating.
So the guys are lying or the girls are delusional? it the same way. What's happening?
I would be highly skeptical that there's that many like player dudes that are taking up the majority.
I'm not even saying players. I just don't think.
that they're not locked down. They're not living with me. I haven't deleted my tinder account yet.
Well, that's the big thing, right? The options that young people have today, dating single people have today with these dating apps, is just if anything seems like you're not in. you know, like I don't like the way she said this or I don't like the way he did that. You're like move on to the next swipe. Yeah.
Like, you never get past this thing where you know you try to like manage how to hang out with each other, because you know when you're dating, everyone has a different personality and some things that some people love, other people like hey, don't do that. You're like, oh, all right, I didn't know. Yeah. I thought you liked it when I opened up the door. you know, like whatever it is, it's like there's always going to be a thing that someone doesn't like and everyone has so many options.
today. It's got to be if you're an attractive person, a woman or a man, and you have a dating app today, like the chances of you finding someone that makes you put away all those other options, because those options in a dating app are just as addictive, I would imagine, as some video games.
Oh, for sure.
Because you're engaging with new people.
Have you ever seen a girl go through her Tinder to show like how absurd it is for what the demand is for them?
Honestly, I haven't. I've seen people talk about it online, but I've never seen anybody do it in person.
You could have like a six out of ten who would, 20 years ago or whatever, not get that much attention if it weren't for social media and everything going through her Tinder. and it's like match, match, match, no match, match, match. Whereas for dudes it's like nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, maybe match, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. So it's like literally 10% of the dudes are getting 90% of the chicks, and then the demand, the supply demand ratio, is not there. So I think a lot of dudes are single.
I don't know if they want to admit it or not, but it's because. This happened also recently with those apps. They've been getting caught using bots to pump up their numbers.
I have heard of that. The dating apps will have like AI people and they're just doing it so they get more engagement.
There's a lot of chicks that promote their only fans and social media on Tinder too, and that's how they're going about it. So that's a big. So they're not even looking to date, they're just looking to pump their socials or like get a new only fan subscriber from some simp that thought they were interested.
That's another one too, right? I mean, when do you bail out on that? So if you're a woman, let's say you're a woman and you're making, you know, some of these women are making $100,000 a month, just showing their feet and whatever. Yeah, literally. You know?
And so all of a sudden you date this guy and you're really into him, and it becomes a really meaningful relationship. and then this conversation comes up like, hey, how long are you going to show your asshole on?
only fans?
As long as they want.
And then she's like, well, I make $100,000 a month showing my asshole on only fans. You're like, oh,
all right, well,
I don't know where this is going then.
It's like, do you make that showing your asshole? No, I don't.
No, I don't. So then the guy has to like be in this position where the woman literally makes like 10 times more than he does showing her asshole.
Yeah.
And then he's got to somehow or another convince her to abandon that, so they can live a life like a fucking Norman Rockwell book.
What? Let's just say, and maybe this is too extreme of a hypothetical, but let's just say you're in your 20s and you're dating somebody and she's an only fans girl.
Yeah.
Is that a deal breaker for you?
No, if I'm in my 20s, it's not. No. If I'm in my 20s, first of all, I'd be like, how are you making so much money? This is crazy. Can I show my asshole if I was in my 20s?
But then you'd have to do it, probably for gay guys, because women are not going to pay. I would think that what I would do is just accept the fact that this isn't going anywhere, and then we're going to have some fun.
Okay. Well, what if it's somebody that you thought would have potential as a serious long-term thing? Would that be the deal breaker that?
I think you'd probably know immediately that she has an only fans. I don't think it would take long. I mean, I think if you waited a long time, like if you're dating six to eight months, like how do you have all these shoes? Like, where'd you get this car? Like, what do you do for work?
If it was one of those things, you know, and then you, oh, you have an only fans and then you were already in love with this woman, that would be, that would be an issue, I guess. Or maybe you just like shift gears and go, okay, I guess this is what I accept. I mean, it's possible, it's feasible for a woman to have a completely disconnected approach to what her only fans is and think about only as a, this is just a business thing. I'm just making, I don't want to work at Wendy's, and so I'm doing this and I am making extraordinary amounts of money and I'm going to invest this money in real estate and smart. You could, you could look at it that way.
What would be the threshold of acceptable behavior on only fans, though? Because it's like, it ranges from like.
bananas in your pussy.
Yeah. You could be just, from. what I understand is a lot of fitness industry girls too will just, they're already almost nude on Instagram, essentially. Right. And they will just post different iterations of, you know, the same poses or whatever, in the same kind of clothes, but behind a paywall.
And I guess some of the money they make is from talking to the dudes or the guys thinking they're talking to them, which is often like a.
That's what Andrew Tate did, right? Those Andrew Tate's are like social things, like having people pretend.
Yeah. He gets, he gets a lot of heat. Cause, I don't know, I don't know if this is actually what he did, but what people are saying is he would type on behalf of the girls, which is like, I don't know. Some people say it's kind of gay. So, cause it's like you're talking to a dude about, you know, what, what you'd want to do with him, and this and that, and speaking on behalf of the girl as if you are her, which presumably a lot of girls outsource to whoever they can get to do it, or have, I don't know, some cookie cutter scripts or something.
But, um, yeah, it's kind of a weird, but.
if you were doing that, you would know exactly what to say to the guys. Cause, you know exactly what the guys want to hear. Cause, if you're just running a scam, I mean, it's not really gay unless you're getting aroused thinking about these guys jerking off to your words, which is a very gray area.
Yeah. Yeah. So I can, it's a weird situation, for sure.
It's definitely weird. Well, it's all, that's also the, the, the, the criticism that Andrew Tate has gotten about exploitation. So supposedly he would get these girls to fall in love with them and then he would get them to go and do this stuff for him.
Yeah. It's wild how much content he has that exists from back then, that he's so articulate and well-spoken when he speaks about it, but then some of those videos are so vulgar and whatnot that it's hard to, I can imagine the people who are, you know, uh, very hard on him. You, you watch the old videos. It's pretty hard to side with them when you see those.
Yes. Yeah. But also you gotta think of what a person like that is trying to do when they're first getting attention. You're trying to be as outrageous as possible, to get as much people to think about what you're saying and talk about what you're saying and engage with it. Yeah.
And the best way to do that is to be like a character, an over the top, completely arrogant guy who's shirtless, with sunglasses, on, smoking a cigar, talking about hoes. Yeah. You know, and pimping hoes. It's like, is it a character or is it really you? And then when you find out, oh well, no, he actually does run these campsites and he does have these girls working for him.
Okay. But then some of the girls talk and go, actually he's like really nice and he was kind and he gave me this business opportunity. I wound up making a lot of money with it. And you're like, oh okay. This is complicated.
Like how much of this is theater and how much of this is like, if it's your real feelings that, you know, these women are subhuman little robot flesh creatures that you just extract money from.
Yeah. Yeah. Any interactions I've had with the guy before he was, you know, super famous and whatnot, I've always been positive too. Like super nice guy.
Very intelligent guy.
Yeah. Super articulate.
Extraordinarily intelligent.
Yeah. Absolutely.
And you know.
His brother too. Yeah. Doesn't get as much credit, but.
You know, they're very, very smart guys, but boy, boy, boy, do they tap into, there's this thing that's going on where men do not feel like there's anyone that represents men in popular culture. Like what men actually talk about when they're alone, when men aren't just hanging out with men and not trying to impress women or trying to not get yelled at. The wild shit they talk about. And you know, if you can build that exaggerated form of that, this world champion kickboxers sitting there smoking a cigar, making fun of simps and you know, that's very appealing because it doesn't exist.
Yeah.
Like. if you're never going to see that on CNN or NBC, or it's not? no mainstream media platform is ever going to tap into this, what is obviously a lucrative market. Hmm. Young guys who don't want to be like their parents.
They don't want to be like their teachers. They don't want to be like any of these people they see around them that seem neutered and pot bellied and fucking depressing and, and, and talking about equity and inclusiveness. And they're like, Jesus, fucking Christ. And then they see this guy and like, Oh yeah, I like that guy.
Yeah. Yeah. No, he's definitely inspired, uh, discipline and taking action. And it's like, I take.
responsibility for yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah. So I mean, it's like a, a more problematic version of like what Jocko does, or, you know what I mean? But it's, it's also, it's different, you know, because it's like, you know, he's in the, he really is in the pimping hose business. It's like, if you're running campsites like that, you're really, you know, farming those girls out to make shit loads of money for you. Yeah.
For a bunch of suckers.
I can't even imagine what the life of a Only Fans manager or something would be.
Yeah. There's gotta be a lot of them. I know that there's a lot of people that they hire, that manage the girls DMs. So there's like companies, I guess, is this the case? I'm pretty, I've just been told this.
There's gotta be agencies that are, you know, turn key. We take care of it.
Yeah, we'll take care of it. I weirdly got offered to.
be a recruiter for one of those. Oh, bro. They wanted to use my verified account. I was like, what is going on? Side hustle.
I mean, that's sneaky, but what, what?
So what did they want you to do? DM chicks, to offer them, like, you can be on Only Fans. I was like, oh God, Jamie, do you know how bad that would turn out? Like, they don't fucking know that already. Like, why would I have to tell them?
So, if I could convince them to do it. Yeah.
The return is I get a kickback of their revenue. I just, I just remembered that, as you guys are talking about it.
So, when they contacted you, what did they say? Like, Hey, Jamie, do you know a lot of girls that are willing to take their clothes off? We've, we've noticed.
you're, it's one of these DMs I get from multiple accounts for various reasons, but, like, we've noticed, your account, you're, you know, I have X amount of followers. You know, you could probably be doing this kind of stuff on Instagram if you do,
you know. And how much would they give you? I don't remember off top my head.
I don't remember. I could check. I feel like it was 10, 20%, something like that.
That's lucrative.
Yeah.
If you can get a bunch of really, I've.
heard these guys are making 50%, the managers do, like. they just split it.
Wouldn't surprise me. That seems crazy. They're not doing.
anything, though. The girls don't do anything besides. make the content, and then the managers are running the account.
Still 50% seems pretty high, because without the girl, you don't.
have anything. I think a lot of naivety around business operations, though, would definitely drive girls to think, I don't want to deal with, you know, accounting. I don't want to deal with this. And I don't even know how. So yeah, by all means take 50, that's.
especially if someone can come to you with a pitch that says, look, you can do this and you can make $3,000 a month, or you can do this with us and you can make $150,000 a month. Yeah. So yeah, you'll get 50%, we'll get 50%, but it's a much higher number that you're going to be dealing with. And you're not going to get there on your own. and we have this vast network and we can also introduce you through other girls, like other girls like this is my friend Cindy.
Like. you'll see them. do that on their Instagram page, follow her. And then, you know, they're just like pumping each other up, like comics would do. Like, hey, go see, Mike.
He's playing at the Ha Ha. Really funny guy.
Yeah.
You know, Cindy's got a great pussy. Check her out.
I wonder who the Joe Rogan of OnlyFans chicks is.
There's got to be one.
Yeah. There's got to be like a ringleader of all. Puts them all on. Put platforms. I think Azalea made $48 million last year, I think is what I read.
Oh, not in that way, I guess. Yeah. Different way, but she's the top of them. Who is it?
The rapper? Yeah. Oh, wow. Jesus. $48 million?
Yeah.
Jesus.
God damn. So now you go, show your asshole, baby. I want a Ferrari.
I think for $48 million, you better be. Yeah.
Well, also, you could just do that for three or four years, and you don't have to do shit for the rest of your life.
Izzy Azalea, the new queen of OnlyFans. Not even Cardi B can match her racy content. Damn, she's got a hot body. $48 million. There you go.
$48 million. Good for her.
Jesus. 45 for Cardi B.
That's still pretty good. Here's the wild one.
It's Tyga, who's a guy. Is this, like, self-reported, though? Like, how do they even get these figures? They've shown those. Most of these have come from them sharing the figure, like, online.
Like, they'll take a screenshot or something, but I don't know specifically each one.
Scroll up. We can see the tomb. She's hot. I get it.
It's like when you see, I don't know, like, when you Google somebody's, like, net worth or something, it's like, you know, is that actually what it is? Oh, she looks like probably not. Right. here, you can say that. It says her net worth is 15, but she just.
reportedly had a network prior to that. 48 million from the website. We're at a 320% hike in our overall value. That's crazy. Wow.
Wow. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense if you're just a business person, and especially if you're a celebrity in that world, like, the female rap world. Like, what's the longevity of that? I mean, you've got a few. I mean,
how many, like, long-term rap, females have been super successful? I'm a little ignorant in that genre.
Yeah, I definitely don't follow it closely, so I'm not sure either.
How's that Tiger guy making all that money? I would have to. He's got me intrigued. What do I have to do? I don't, I mean...
An extra 20 a year?
Yeah, that seems pretty insanely high for a dude who probably doesn't put a lot of money Right.
Like, what if we had one episode of the JRE OnlyFans where we did it only in jockstraps? How would that work? You probably would need a jockstrap camera, maybe. I don't know. It would be, like, all gay guys.
You could say you're in a jockstrap right now and nobody would know. That's true. That's true. That's true. Women don't pay for guys, though.
There's just, like, for Tiger, who's paying for him? I've only heard, there's.
a guy that's on the challenge, his name's Devin, this TV show on MTV, and he makes a lot of money doing that, but I think he said, yes, it's all guys. I feel like, unless there was full-blown porn for gay dudes to buy, I would be very skeptical of 20 million, even if he's, like, an A-list. celeb. Like, that seems insane.
Is Tiger an A-list celeb?
He's, like, in the Kardashian world, so.
He is?
Yeah. What does he look like? I don't know what A-list actually means, by the way. I don't know what it means anymore.
It used to mean nothing.
Yeah.
Or it used to mean you were only movie stars.
I think he might have been with Kendall. It's on the screen.
That guy makes 20 million a year?
He's had popular songs, but I would imagine 20 million in a year from OnlyFans.
Do we have any examples of his OnlyFans content?
You gotta pay for that, bro.
But there's gotta be something you could find on fuckin' Reddit.
My understanding is they're pretty intense with making sure it stays off of. That's better where the money goes. This says he deleted his account.
Oh, so his account is him and a bunch of chicks? That's what his thing is?
Because it's like who's paying for that? That's just like Instagram hype content.
Well, if it's him and a bunch of chicks, I could see how you can get guys to pay for that. Oh!
Oh!
It's his rod! Hold up. Go back to that. Go back to that. I clicked too many things real fast.
I didn't want to be staring at it. Go back to that.
Maybe this one.
So, he does show his cock.
Well, assuming by this one picture in Reddit that it's also him.
But that also could be a filter that makes his dick bigger. Yeah. I bet they have that. They have lip filters.
For sure.
They have filters for your eyes. They give you eyelashes.
If girls are doing that, you'd be insane to not do it. Yeah, you wanna make.
some money or not, Tyga? Get that dick filter runnin'. Tyga starts OnlyFans as his model management company and he's looking for clients.
So, he would also be incentivized to say he makes more from his own. to exemplify how, you know, revenue-driving he is.
But are they allowing?
self-declaration? Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee's got his cock out!
Jesus.
He's got that 60-year-old fuckin'... He started this whole thing. ...weathered cack. So, Tommy Lee joins OnlyFans. So, Tommy Lee's showin' his hog.
Yep.
Okay. I guess you can kind of get away with that if you're Tommy Lee.
Yeah, I guess.
I had a meeting with Tommy Lee once when he wanted to fight Kid Rock. A buddy of mine, is one of Tommy Lee's bodyguards. He's like, Tommy wants to meet you. I'm like, okay. So, I go to one of their concerts.
When they were doin' that show Rockstar Supernova, do you remember Rockstar Supernova?
No, what was that?
It was like a television show where they put together a band. They, like, made a band. And Tommy Lee was a part of it. Who else was in that?
Uh...
Who was that? What was that really handsome guy? Dave Navarro. Wasn't he in that too?
Who are these guys?
Um...
I don't know, but Tommy Lee was a part of it. Right?
I'll look at the pictures. I don't... Oh, there's their names. So, Lucas, Rossi, Gilby, Clark, Tommy Lee, Johnny, Colt, Jason, the new set from Metallica.
Yeah. So, they had this thing. So, anyway, we went to the concert. Good show. And then afterwards, uh, I got to meet Tommy.
And Tommy was like, I wanna fight Kid Rock. Kick his fuckin' ass. Cause, like, Kid Rock had dated Pamela Anderson and Tommy used to be married to Pamela Anderson. So they had some fuckin'... So they were trying to set up a fight.
Like, Kid Rock and Tommy Lee in a fight.
So, what were you gonna do?
I was gonna, like, introduce him to trainers, and I just wanted to, he asked, he just wanted to talk to me about it. I did not know what he wanted to talk about. And so then, when I got there, I was like, hmm, okay, what do you, what's your lifestyle? Like, how committed are you to, like, how much can you train? Like, how much time do you think you need to prepare?
Like, do you have any experience at all in combat sports? Like, do you just think you're gonna kick his ass cause you hate him? You know? And, Kid Rock, like, I don't put my money on that motherfucker. Like, he seems, he seems like a guy who's hit people in the head with a rock before.
So, who, why didn't that happen? Oh,
I don't know. A lot of people, there's a lot of those things that people talk about that never actually take place. Like, the reality of it.
Elon versus Zuck?
I was supposed to fight Wesley Snipes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was real.
Like, that was lawyers in negotiation. I was training twice a day for six months. That was fucking hard. I was so tired all the time. And, I only got, like, a taste of what it's like to, you know, to train, like, an MMA fighter.
Cause I was, I was training knowing that the fight was eventually gonna take place. So, I was building up a base. So, I was kickboxing every morning, and then I was doing Jiu Jitsu every night. And, I was doing it for six months.
So, why'd it fall through?
I think, cause he knew I was gonna kill him. I think in the beginning he thought that he would be able to stuff takedowns and he would kick my ass. and then he found out that, no, I'm a Taekwondo champion. Yeah. And, I'm a kickboxer.
That's, I'm way better at standing up than I am on the ground. Yeah. And then, I don't know what happened, but there was a bunch of different demands. Like, at first it was gonna be 50-50, and then, you know, he wanted it to be 60-40, and I agreed to everything. I said, and then finally it was like, okay, give me just this amount of money and give him whatever the fuck else you want.
I'm like, I'm gonna fucking strangle that guy. Let me get a hold of him. Yeah. And, it never happened.
But,
I just wanted to, I just like, this would be a perfect thing to do. Like, he's never fought in MMA before. I've never done it before. This would be fun and it'll make a lot of money. And just, I just, the idea of this guy, who had never had any competitive fights at all, ever, that he thought he could do.
that. I'm like, okay. Like, you're not gonna know what that feels like. Like, I might have done it a long time ago, but I've done it. I know what that feels like when the referee's looking at you, are you ready?
And then, that's a moment that if you've never experienced that moment ever in your life and the bell goes ding and you're like, oh shit, is this real?
There's just gonna be.
too much weirdness for him to process.
You know? And I guess it wouldn't be good to have that blemish on his history.
Just kidding. No. No, I just, you know, I think he was doing a lot of blow, if I had to guess. Because he was in a bad situation, where he owed a lot of taxes. And, he had some advisor that was, like, you know, one of those dudes that tells you, you know, it's unconstitutional to pay taxes.
Look, right here. There's a few of those guys out there that will get you convinced that, you know, they're not gonna prosecute you. Because then, it'll have to be revealed that taxes are against the Constitution. And there's a lot of wacky people that people fall under the, you know, the influence of, unfortunately. And he wound up going to jail.
Oh, jeez.
Yeah, he wound up going to jail for tax evasion.
Damn, dude.
When was the time Wesley Slimes went to jail?
What did, taxes are a weird one, right? Because if you owe taxes, like, if they find out you owe, you, don't just pay them back. They put you in a cage. Yeah. They did it to Lauren Hill from the Fugees.
Dude,
it's like the most.
odd. Yeah. Here it goes. Slimes was convicted on misdemeanor charges of willful failure to file federal income tax returns in 2008.. Was sentenced to three years in prison.
After an unsuccessful appeal, he served 28 months in federal prison. God damn.
I think, uh, Shakira is also dealing with something like that right now.
Yeah, I think she got off, though. Didn't something happen where she won her case? I think that's, was that in Spain?
Yeah, something like that. It's like, I wonder what, like, getting off, like, even entails in that. Because if they determined, you owed a bunch of money and haven't paid, how do you, you just did and they didn't catch it somehow? Right.
How much paperwork do you have?
She struck a deal.
She struck a deal.
A lot of money to pay. God damn. Yeah. Accepted the charges.
She accepted the charges on a fine of 50% of the amount owed, more than 7.3 million, is that pounds? What is that little mark?
Euros? So she got to not pay taxes and then paid half the amount. Hmm. How does that make sense?
I don't know.
And an extra 500.. Oh, you just pay an extra 438K and you don't have to go to prison. That's got to be unique to where she is, I would think, right?
Yeah, I think in America, they try to make an example of people, especially famous people. Hey, kids, pay your fucking taxes. The IRS does not fuck around. Yeah. And it's a, they're a shady institution.
They, they go after you.
Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever had a, a situation that was like, fuck, I need to get an accountant? No.
Like, from day one, you're pretty dialed.
I've had a business manager for 25 years.
Oh, damn. Yeah.
Luckily.
Yeah. I've always wondered how you oversee so much stuff, or if you just have like, how you built the team under you.
to oversee everything. you have to have people. You have to have real people that really know what the fuck they're doing, that do this for a lot of other, you know, high income people. Yeah. Yeah.
They, they know what they're doing. They, they make sure you pay all your fucking taxes and you don't have to think about it. You don't, that is the last place you want to be is in the hole to the government. That's, when you're in the hole of the IRS, they start auditing you and find out you've been lying about this or, you know, maybe you've been deducting things you can't deduct.
they start going up your ass with a microscope. Yeah. It's not good. And if they find out that you did willfully not pay taxes like Snipes, they fucking put you in jail, man. And they, they do it to make an example out of you, because if you're a famous person like, you, know, Lauren Hill or someone like that, how long did she go away for?
I think she did a year.
Oh, geez.
Yeah, it's crazy, man. They'll take fucking superstars. And I don't know what her deal was. If it was a similar situation, where someone had told her she doesn't have to pay taxes because, like you, would think that people that are making millions of dollars, well, you'd have to have some sophisticated people around you, but that's not the case.
No, it's like, often not.
Here it is. Federal judges sentenced Lauren Hill to three months in prison and three more in house arrest for failing to pay taxes on close to a million dollars in earnings.
Damn.
Which is crazy, because she could have easily made that million dollars back for the government, and they're like, no, go to jail.
Jesus.
Go to jail.
So how do you vet? Because obviously you have some of the financial advising people that will tell you weird tax strategies and things that are sketchy. Like, how do you vet that dude 25 years ago who has been great?
I got very fortunate. He's very conservative. He doesn't fuck around at all. He's like, you don't want that smoke. You want to pay your fucking taxes.
You know, he does everything by the book, you know, and they're really good and they've been around forever. It's like, that's what you need. If you, it's like, you would think athletes at the highest level of the game wouldn't be involved in shady gym bros that might be handing him stuff that's getting popped for USADA, but yet it happens all the time. All the time. There's a lot of weird guys that wind up being sycophants and hang out in camp that could tell you, you know, this stuff, they're using it in Holland and no one can test for it in America.
And you're like, oh, no one can test for it. The next thing, you're taking it. Do you have anything about this? that this was going on,
probably in the background of stuff that's very important in life?
I did hear about it, but I didn't hear the details. So it says, Glenn Big Baby Davis convicted in NBA insurance fraud scheme. And what is, what was the scheme? My understanding,
without getting too into details, is that once these players, not graduate, but when they retire, they're still afforded some sort of,
um, pension?
It's part of the pension, I guess.
And based off of how they go and file things, certain, they get payments.
for certain levels of what, whatever it is, doctors, dentists, whatever it is. Fraudulent invoices were created over X amount of years, and they were just taking the money, I guess.
Hmm.
And they like, I guess a few players got wrapped up into it, but I remember reading about it. It was just like $1,000 here, $1,500 bucks here, $2,000 bucks here.
And it just adds up.
Yeah. But these are guys that, you know, NBA champions, made millions of dollars.
The thing is, you make those millions of dollars, and then your career's over. And you're like, oh, shit. Yeah. And you got this lifestyle, and you got a house, and a big mortgage, and a Rolls Royce or something, and you're like, oh.
Yeah. How many pro athletes do you know that? have, you know, been crushing it and then got way in over their head with lifestyle? A lot.
I know a lot of fighters like that. And with fighters, it's also, you're compounding the issue of traumatic brain injury. Because one of the things that happens with people that have been hitting the head a bunch is they become very impulsive. They make risky decisions. They gamble a lot.
They're real, something gets knocked loose. That's a real thing. It happens with football players. It happens with a lot of fighters. And those people, they lose their impulse control.
It's part of getting hit in the head a lot. It makes you a little bit more reckless, which is really wild.
Damn.
Yeah.
So they, if anyone needs that high-level advisement, it's those guys.
But they would also need someone that they would be willing to listen to. Right? Because a lot of these people are also very headstrong, you know, strong egos. They've been doing it their own way. They become champions that way.
And to like adjust that shift in the way you think and say, oh, I'm kind of a fuck-up.
I'm a little wild.
with my money. I need someone to invest my money. And then find someone who's willing to do it when your career is already at this point where, hey, in three years from now, you're going to be making zero money. Like if you're a 36-year-old fighter, for example, and you're competing in the UFC, the odds of you being competing in the UFC in three years are so low, there's only a few guys. There's guys like Jan Bohovic, who's a world champion in his 40s.
Glover Teixeira, a world champion in his 40s. Like most fighters, by the time 40 rolls around, like Daniel Cormier, is another example, rare, very rare, to be elite at that age. Most of those guys are done. And when I see a fighter and I see, like a guy who's like on the way up 28 and he's fighting, a guy who is established at 36, I'm like, ooh, this might be the one because this might be the time when the wheels fall off. Because all those years of punishment on the body, you never know what's going on with injuries.
Like. it could be a neck, a back, a hip, a knee, something that fucks with them. It's not enabling them to train properly. They can't make specific movements when they want to because it's painful. So, even though they look good and they're fighting, they might be compromised like, pretty significantly.
There's guys that fight and they have fucking bulging discs in their neck that are giving them like nerve pains in their hands, and if they get caught in a guillotine, they're fucked.
Yeah, didn't you, you said recently, Usman, his knees are just destroyed. Absolutely decimated. Destroyed. Yeah.
We were talking about it yesterday with Daniel. If you see the difference between Usman's upper body, he looks like a Greek god, and then you get down to his lower body, there's almost no muscle tone, they're thin legs, they're tiny legs, and a lot of that is because he can't do anything with them. His knees are bone on bone. His cartilage is worn out. He has almost no meniscus.
They're just destroyed. He has to walk backwards downstairs.
Damn, dude.
Yeah, and he's a world champion.
Has he tried? I'm assuming he's done like pretty much everything. You probably sent him down to Yeah,
he's gone to Columbia, got stem cells. but the problem is and it's a big problem with these athletes is that if you do get, like my friend Shane Dorian, do you know who he is? Yeah. Big wave surfer. Shane just went down to Tijuana to the CPI, which is a great place to get stem cells in Mexico.
He went down there and they told him once you have this procedure, so he got a bunch of injections directly into the discs of his back to mitigate disc degeneration disease, which is just essentially like compression of your body, smashing down the discs. They told him you're not doing anything for eight weeks. Nothing. So for a guy like him, that's like super fit and very active is like what can I do? You can walk.
Like you have to give these cells time to actually do their work, and if you're constantly putting stress on those joints after they've had stem cells, you're just completely aggravating all these pre-existing injuries and conditions. and stem cells are never going to get a chance to do their job. Like you've got to give this tissue a chance to re-proliferate. You've got to give your body a chance to heal, and it's got, they have to go to work and if you're constantly beating your body up during that process, it's not going to work.
You recently had it done and you're thinking how much, you have to do the same thing eight weeks off?
Yeah, you have to, if you're doing something like that, you have, like, a pretty significant injury, like I would imagine, this is the longest I've heard anybody be asked to take off, and that's, I think, because they're going into his discs. But I had a torn MCL on my left knee and I got stem cells in it. and then, like a few weeks later, I was training hard and like kicking the bag and doing Muay Thai and kicking pads, and it just kept getting, it kept flaring up. And then I said okay, I see what the fuck is going on here and I know how hard headed I am. I've got to take a year off of Muay Thai and I took a whole year.
One year I didn't kick at all and all I did is those knees over toes, guys things and stem cells. and now it's great. But I had to give it that time. I was just always re-aggravating the same injury. It would get a little bit better, to the point where it didn't hurt anymore.
and then when you're throwing kicks, the amount of torque that is on those joints, when you're going full power, you're taking the mass of your body, which in my case is 200 pounds. you're exploding off the ground and then you're slamming your shin into this hard pad over and over and over and over again. It's just brutal punishment on your joints if you've got some sort of a compromise, if something's wrong there.
What was the recent treatment you had done? What was it for?
I had it done just a couple days ago because I have, I think, what is overuse? I think it's probably like some sort of tendonitis in my lower back and it's from archery. It's from you know, when you're pulling a bow back, I have two bows. one is 80 pounds to pull back and one is 90, and so I'm pulling 80 or 90 pounds 150 times a day. Damn.
Over and over and over again. So it's this motion where my right arm pulls back and I'm anchoring in and then I'm locking it down. and a lot of that stability and locking it down and like maintain your posture, is in my right lower back. Like that's where, like everything sort of like balances out. That's like the fulcrum or the point where all the stress of my upper back and my legs meet and that's what kind of keeps it stable.
and that was getting overused to the point where I would draw my bow back and I could do it a few times and then, like on the 10th time, the 11th time, it would start to flare up and it was becoming an issue. So I got some stem cell shot into that.
So do you have to take how much time off of the bow now?
I have to take some time off. I'll take a couple weeks off. Okay. Yeah. But I have an easy bow too.
I have one bow that I keep at the studio. that's only 60 pounds, and so that one doesn't seem to bother me. So I could do that. It's just like, as soon as something bothers me, I stop and then I'm doing the ice bass and I'm rolling it out and I'm shooting BPC 157 in there and it's better. It's already pretty significantly better.
Nice. Yeah. That's a part of your daily routine. It's like 150 shots.
No.
Like you said, every day I'm doing 100 to 150..
Oh yo, shots with the arrow. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I thought you meant BPC 157..
That would be insane. No. No. Yeah. Every day it's like at least 100 shots.
So that's just here or where do you?
I have a range here at the studio that's an indoor range and then I have at my house I have an outdoor range.
You've got to show me around after. I don't think I've ever even seen the... Have you seen the gym? No.
Oh yeah. We've got a great gym. It's like a real gym gym that you would like pay a membership for.
It's pretty dope. Is it still public?
No. No. I'm assuming. Comedians and my security staff are the only ones that use it. And so it's like you know.
I've been doing these comedian workouts where I take these guys that you know they've been talking about it for a while. they don't work out at all and I'm like look, calm down, we'll have a fun time, we'll laugh around a bit and we'll. I'll start you off real light. I'll start them out with just body weight exercises, like we're going to do. I do like a series of 100 pushups and 100 body weight squats every day and what I do is that's how I warm up from my cold plunge.
So I start the cold plunge that's the first thing I do and then I do. once I'm done with 100 body weight squats and 100 pushups, then I can start working out because I'm pretty warm by then and then I'll start doing my other stuff. And so what I would do with these guys is I would start them out with the body weight squats and the pushups, and I'm like you don't have to do sets of 20. I'm like if you could do 5. if you could do 10, do 5 because we're going to do 5 sets and so you'll wind up doing 25 pushups and you wind up doing 25 body weight squats, which is not a lot, but I'm just trying to build them on a base.
and then I have them doing very light kettle bells you know like 10 kilograms and you're doing swings and you know I'm teaching them how to rack and cleans and presses and then I work them into windmills and then, once I got them going for a little and then one day The Rock came. so we had a serious workout and I'm, like just everybody, try to keep up, but we're going to get after it today.
Who chooses? Me. Okay.
Me.
So The Rock does your. Yeah, he did my workout.
Okay. Yeah, which is cool to see him do, because you know, I think what he mostly does is stuff that generates size. I think he does a lot of machines.
Yeah, he seems like very bodybuilding focused Yes. and longevity for his joints and whatnot, because he's in his 50s now.
and he did football pro wrestling for years. I mean it beats your fucking body. Out of all those guys that are retired pro wrestlers, he is unquestionably in the best condition. like he's not. like Hulk Hogan comes in, he's got a crutch, you know, and he's fucked up.
he's got to walk with a cane his back. he's at like 7. I think he lost 4 or 5 inches of height Damn. due to back surgeries.
Damn.
because they're just fusing all. you gotta think you got a little space in between each spinal column and then that goes away. that goes away. that goes away. so everything is compressed and then that creates all sorts of problems in your body, because everything is kind of out of a line now, and then your back is one stiff rod because everything is fused.
it's fucked. but The Rock's avoided all that. like he's in pretty good condition. he's not that mobile like we had him doing, like windmills. you know what a windmill is?
you clean press with a kettlebell and then you go down like this with your hand all the way down to the ground and then all the way back up. that was a struggle for him.
he's pretty tall too. yeah, he's huge dude.
but he's just. he's doing mostly like bench press, squats, he's doing things with machines, leg curls, leg extensions. I think he does a lot of machine stuff, which is probably the safest way to do that shit.
does he usually train on his own with no workout partner?
yeah, he does.
seems like every video. he's like in a gym. that's like been propped up somewhere, and it's still like all the equipment is there, but there's no one there. it's like a mobile facility, I guess.
yeah, that's what he does. he has that and then he has this enormous place at his house. yeah, so it's all see it? it's all machines. he does have some dumbbells, but the vast majority of what he's utilizing is machines which you know you really can get strong and you really can get big with those.
but what those things don't seem to do is allow for coordination through use of movement. that would give you functional strength.
yeah, yeah, a lot of it is. you become very limited in your ability to do actual athletic maneuvers too. like, even when I first started bodybuilding, I was teaching swimming lessons and was a lifeguard and I would go to. I had to teach the kids certain different kinds of strokes and what not, and my back stroke in particular, the mobility of my shoulder and actually being able to get it past my ear. even it was like I was smashing my head with my delt and I couldn't even like keep a straight arm because I was so inflexible, and it was that was the first time I noticed.
damn, this is really limiting. yeah, like you become athletic looking and like you could do things at a high level because you just you look good objectively, but the actual athletic performance capacity is dramatically hindered if you don't focus on that stuff.
well, certainly with bodybuilding. right. if you see those guys that are competing in the Mr. Olympia, I can't imagine that there's much that they can do.
yeah, like that, uh, Tom Haveland guy, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a great example of jacked as fuck huge and does a lot of like functional type stuff. yes, yeah,
what is his deal?
yeah, he's a interesting character, for sure. yeah, I, uh, I think he's former special forces. he's, uh, he kind of. I think he used to compete in certain, uh, strength events, um powerlifting, potentially. um, there is some videos on youtube from a long time ago and he's his face is actually showing, which a lot of people don't know about.
but um, yeah, he's like 6'8", 350 right now, I think.
yeah, he's trying to get to 400 pounds. that was his thing.
yeah, I think he did before. I don't know if he's still trying to get to 400, but yeah, the guy is, uh, a fucking freak show for sure.
a real freak show.
yeah, and he's like. it's his equipment. it's like you don't even know where it came from. it's like is this a fucking piece of uh, like railroad equipment or something?
I know a lot of it is like shit he built, and what's really crazy is most of the stuff he's wearing work boots, yeah, and like, uh, a fucking lumberjack shirt or some shit like. look at this. like how odd is it that he wears all these clothes while he trains?
yeah, like there's definitely. uh, I wouldn't want to work out in jeans personally. right, that would be the last thing I don't want to wear.
like. why is he doing that? I don't know what is the mentality about.
like. I guess it's. it's gotta be you just like the way it looks man. I guess it must be, because it's certainly not for function or comfort or anything.
right like why is he wearing work boots? why is he wearing jeans? I mean, why is he never show his face?
it's like the ultimate blue collar, you know.
this one's wild. he carries a log while he's got offset weight, so the the chain is wrapped around his right arm and then he's dragging a hundred pounds behind him.
when Goggins asks who's gonna carry the boat and logs, I show them this guy.
I mean what a strange thing to do, but he also is a big advocate of carrying things like one of the things he said if you want to get strong, take something heavy and carry it around.
yeah, yeah, and it's like uh, stuff that actually would translate into uh, you know real life.
yeah, look at this shit.
look at this guy will carry your groceries, bro.
I mean this is insane. this farmer's carry. he's like how much weight is that? 410 pounds farmer's carry? yeah, what's that?
Jamie? each hand 410.
farmers walk with 800. oh my.
god. now look at that. look at those. those are not weights, those are like gears. like what are those things that he's got on the sides?
yeah, he's got like one plate and then the other thing looks like a gear.
so everything he does is like these really awkward movements, but then he supplements that with traditional stuff like zircher squads, deadlifts.
yeah, I don't know why he's uh, pro. I think his Instagram's private now too. yeah, I don't know burned or intake intake.
today's calories 6389 jeez.
louise, which is like you know for his size. yeah, I can believe it.
100%. he's fucking 6'9 or.
whatever he is. yeah, I don't understand his like. uh, branding though around the whole, don't show my face. private Instagram like. I don't know what it is, because, like, obviously the posts are to document progress and or inspire people or bring attention to programs or something.
but then it's like I don't know. maybe he got a lot of harassment or.
something now you get to see where his shirt is.
oh, there we go.
fuck you guys that house. look at the size of that motherfucker. I think that's.
why he wears all those clothes? because that's very distracting from what he's doing. if he's just trying to show you how strong he is, just like, look like, look at.
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