2024-02-20 02:28:57
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I like how you did the cliff notes, that's a slick move.
Yeah, how about that?
Yeah, that's very smart. Because big print too, for dummies like me. This is nice.
Yeah, how about that? Yeah.
I'm excited to read this, man. You are a great giver of advice, sir. What is it like to carry that burden in a wild world?
Well, I'll tell you what. I ain't looking for something to do.
I don't have to look very far.
Yeah. It's a wild time of mass confusion. People losing their fucking minds. Very strange.
It really is. And, you know, I keep thinking this is about as crazy as it can get. And then I go, I get up and...
And you see the NYPD dance team.
I haven't seen that. Okay, here we go. Alright, you gotta show me.
The NYPD in the middle of the craziest migrant crisis that anybody's ever experienced. In the middle of places where you attack police officers, violently attack police officers, and you're released with no bail. Like that, right back out on the street.
This is the NYPD dance team. So they developed a dance team.
You remember when you were a kid and you thought about the fall of the Roman Empire? And you were like, did they see it coming?
You think this is a clue?
Is that what you're thinking?
A bigger clue would be an alien landing on the White House lawn. That's the only thing bigger. This is insanity. The fact that they would, A, put this on television. First of all, is this the news?
What is this? that they put this on, Jamie?
I think it's like the New York News.
Okay. Isn't there a lot of other shit? that's the news? That's like really important for people to know about right now?
You know what? I'll tell you. Anything that lifts morale with law enforcement right now...
That's true.
You gotta give them that. Anything that lifts the morale and bonds them. Because they got the lowest morale ever, and I don't blame them.
I don't blame them either. This is not the solution, but they should be massively funded, not defunded. You should train them better. If you've got all these situations with people, you've got people. that...
I mean, how much training is involved today, in this time of such a demand for police officers? They're trying really hard to get police officers. They should train them like they train Navy SEALs. It should be a very difficult process to get through. And we should be very thankful that people are doing the job.
And they should be rewarded and treated well.
You know what really drives me crazy about this defunding that went on? And, of course, I think everybody's decided that was either a really bad idea or a really poorly worded idea. Either way. But, listen, the last thing you want to do is try to get police officers to wear three or four different hats. You don't want them showing up saying, OK, I want to try to be a social worker and a psychologist and defuse all of this and all.
A police officer should show up and enforce the law. If not, people are going to get shot and killed. Police officers should show up and suppress illegal activity, disarm people that are a threat. And after all that's done, then fine. Bring in somebody that is a social worker or whatever.
But you don't want a police officer doing all of that stuff. They're there to do one job, and that is suppress illegal behavior, disarm dangerous people. And they need to do it as quickly and efficiently as they can. They don't want to do all that. They got one job.
Right. And they need to do that one job and do it very well. And they don't need people in there saying, well, you need to kind of talk to them, and you need to this, you need to that. I'm not saying be heavy-handed or badge-heavy, but they need to do what they're there to do and then let other people come in behind them and try to do all the rest of the stuff. You don't want a cop doing three different jobs.
You want them doing one job, and that's suppress illegal behavior, get it under control, and then let somebody else do everything else.
Yes. And you need money for that.
Of course you do.
You can't defund the police and expect things to get better. No. The whole idea behind that is so insane.
And let me tell you, the people that were yelling defund, the police weren't speaking for the people they were protecting. In those neighborhoods, they didn't want less police. No. They didn't want less police. It was their businesses that were getting robbed, their businesses were getting burned down.
They didn't want less police. And it's so often that these activists, and I call it tyranny of the fringe. I've written this new book we'll talk about, I'm sure, in due time. But I talk about tyranny of the fringe. These activists aren't speaking for the people.
they say they're speaking for. They're speaking for themselves. They like the camera. They like the attention. They're not speaking for the groups they supposedly are speaking for.
And it works. That's what's crazy. It's effective. It is. And in this day and age, when it's attached to something like the idea of being a progressive or being a good person, being on the left, being a kind person, you go along with these things.
And the next thing you know, you're supporting the wildest of the leftists. You're supporting Antifa. You're turning a blind eye to violent thugs. And this is how screwed up everything's gotten just over the last few years. It seems like ten years ago.
this is not possible.
No. And it's accelerating and not decelerating yet. But I'm beginning to sense that there's a pushback.
Oh, yeah.
Because I think they've made a serious miscalculation. They pushed so hard and so long that they started to wake up middle America to the point that they're saying, wait a minute, what? That's not OK. When they start rewriting history, when they start rewriting science, when they start trying to get the government to co-parent with you, with your child, people start saying, OK, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I didn't mind when you were running around here talking crazy, but now you're starting to get into my business.
Like my grandmother used to say, now you've gone from preaching to meddling now.
Well, you know what's happening in Canada, right? Canada has some pretty insane cases that are going on right now about gender transition from really young kids. And there's all this pushback with parents. and there's all this because the parents are not being told that their children want to transition. So there's this guy that was talking about these issues of parents' rights in Canada.
And he specifically said that parents don't have rights in Canada. I feel like he said they have obligations. Is that the term he used? But he said under Canadian law, parents don't have rights. Like, what the fuck are you saying?
Let me make sure that's exactly what he said before I get sued. But when I saw it, I was like, this is such a crazy thing to say. And if that's the way their law is structured, fix that. Like, who are other people to tell you how to parent your child? And who are these people?
Have they been vetted? Are they really good at parenting? They're supposed to be teachers. They're not supposed to be parents.
Here's my problem with that.
If you look at this right now, and I understand,
I don't know if you know, but I'm starting my whole new network called Merritt Street Media.
No, I didn't know.
Yeah, and we launch at the first of April. We were going to launch at the end of February, but we've delayed it a month in order to pick up some massive, more massive distribution.
And I have committed myself to owning the debate lane in America. I'm willing to let all sides come and say what they want to say, but they got to be willing to answer hard questions. And I've had some of these folks, I've already shot about 30 shows on Dr. Phil primetime. And we're going to have four hours of news and a whole lot of other programming.
But it's all about, I mean, let's be commonsensical. Let's look at the facts. Let's look at science. Let's not look at what you want to be the truth. Let's look at what is the facts.
Let's look at what is science.
And we've got these people that it's interesting. they choose words like gender affirming care. You know, that's interesting, that they call it that. But really what they're talking about is hormonal therapy or sex reassignment surgery on children. And, in fairness, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Endocrine Society, or whatever the exact name of that is, all of the major medical associations have signed off on this, Joe.
They've signed off on it. And I have never seen those organizations sign off on anything with less information as to whether or not it does long-term harm of anything in my life. And when I ask about that, when I bring that up, then they immediately label you as transphobic.
And I thought that the deal was first do no harm. And all of the European countries, you know, Sweden, Norway, they've all stopped doing it because they say we cannot say in good conscience that this does no harm because it does harm. If you look at the long-term consequences, if someone changes their mind at 10,, 11,, 12, 13 years old, they can't decide which pajamas they want to wear at night. And their reason for doing it is it stops this drive for suicide, that there's a suicide epidemic. It doesn't fix that.
It doesn't fix all the comorbid issues that come along with feeling like they're in the wrong body. But yet they're pushing this. And we're going to do some shows that are already taped, that are revealing what the real results of this are. And I think people are going to be shocked that these medical organizations have signed off on this. I think they've just given in to the pressure.
Yeah, I just don't understand where the pressure is coming from. Another phrase they're using now is life-saving, gender-affirming care. They like to smash them all together like that.
Well, I don't think that there's evidence to suggest that's true. Is this the guy you're talking about?
He said there's no such thing as parental rights in Canada. Children have rights in Canada, and those kinds of policies restrict the rights children have.
This is a wild thing, man. I've never seen anything like it.
But America's not far behind that, because I've talked to a lot of teachers, and they're telling me that they have a duty to the children, that if the child is not ready to talk to their parents about this, that it's okay for them to keep a secret from the child. Now, let me tell you what my problems with this are and see what you think.
First off, this is either a psychological phenomenon or a medical phenomenon, and the teachers are not trained in either psychology or medicine. They're not any more trained to deal with that than they are to take out the kid's spleen in the homeroom. So if that's true, if it's a psychological thing, if it's gender dysphoria, or it's a medical issue, then you need someone trained in child psychology, psychiatry, or medicine. And the teacher's not trained in any of those three things. Like I say, they're not any more trained in that than they are to take out the child's spleen.
So how are they qualified to deal with that? Secondly, it's teaching the child to keep a secret from their parents. It's teaching deception and interfering between the child's relationship with their parent. Now, their justification for that is, well, if the child goes home and announces this, or if we tell it to the parent, then the child could get abused, the child could get judged, the child could get kicked to the curb. But they have to admit, statistically, that that is very rare.
And if that's the case, that's what we have the Department of Child and Family Services for. That's what we have Child Protective Services for. If that's the case, then you call in for some intervention if the child is being abused at home for whatever reason.
Then you get intervention in that way. But you don't come between the child and their parent. The parent has the right to know what's going on.
Without a doubt. And also, these people that are teaching these kids, do we even know them? You don't know them? I mean, how much do you know about them before they start teaching your kids? It could be insane.
It's not like the threshold for teachers is so high that only the elite of the elite cross it. You see a lot of these weird people teaching classes, and you don't necessarily want them giving advice to children about decisions for the rest of their life. And here's an important point that people need to really take into consideration. There's a reason why they have little kids become suicide bombers. Because you can talk kids into almost anything.
You can talk them into believing in Santa Claus. You talk kids into believing in all kinds of ridiculous shit, because they're really young. You could easily convince them in one way or another that they're anything. That they're queer, that they're trans. You could 100% convince some kids of all kinds of things.
Especially by reinforcing it with love and support and happiness. You can convince people of a lot of things. That's what's uncomfortable for a lot of people. For a lot of gay people, they're uncomfortable with the idea that a lot of these kids are just going to grow up to become gay. My friend Tim Dillons talked about that a bunch.
He says it's homophobic. It's like they're trying to say, no, you're a girl. And really, maybe you're just gay. Like, that's okay. It was always a thing.
And now all of a sudden it's getting... You're looking at little kids that might just be gay kids. You're saying, maybe you're a girl. Maybe you need to go to a gender reassigning surgery center. And never have an erection or an orgasm for the rest of your life.
Like, what the fuck are we doing? They're so young.
It's not... I don't think it's appropriate or safe for children. And I think you have... There is a huge body of literature that addresses these issues from end to end. There's not a huge body of literature about the transgender population.
And that's the problem. And what literature is out there suggests that you get... And this is what you see from the European countries. They've done study after study from these suppressive hormones compared to doing psychotherapy. And there's not much difference.
If you do psychotherapy, you can ease the depression. You can ease the suicidal tendencies with psychotherapy without doing the irreversible things. They say, well, you can reverse those things. No, that's not true. If you arrest the development, that can have ramifications long term.
Or at least they can't say it doesn't have ramifications long term.
There's also serious side effects from the hormone blockers.
Well, of course. And that's... And if you're doing testosterone blockers, for example, that does have long term consequences. And my point is they can't say it doesn't. They don't have a body of literature that says it doesn't.
And I'm... Look, I'm not a physician.
What do you think is behind it, though? How did this... This is so contrary to the way most people feel. What do you think is behind it? Especially the push towards children, affirming children.
Do you think it's because there's people that are queer or LBGT, whatever, and they want other people to be a part of their group? Is it? they want more LBGT people? They want to encourage this behavior? They think it's suppressed.
And maybe there's more people that are gay or whatever, and they want to come out and they just get suppressed by it. So they're trying to make it more enthusiastic. How is this trans thing becoming a major point of debate with children where it never has in history? In your life, in my life, there was never all this talk about trans children. This seems insane, that we've forgotten that kids don't know what the fuck is going on yet.
I think a lot of it is owing to social media platforms and the internet. I think this is what I'm talking about when I say the activists, I don't think, speak for the community at large. I think they get an agenda that they're pushing, and I think they really get wrapped up in this, and it gets a lot of oxygen on the internet. It gets a lot of oxygen on social media platforms. Now, they say there's no social contagion here, but the girls that are claiming to be transgender, that percentage has gone up.
Some reports say it's gone up 800%, 1,000% over the last several years. And they say, well, that's because they feel more comfortable talking about it now. Is that true, or is it because you read about it, you see it on social media, and you think, well, I can distinguish myself in this way. I think there is a social contagion effect. So, people jump on the bandwagon, and if it's for a short period of time, but they've done things that can't be reversed, I think that's really tragic.
And they say there are very few detransitioners. I don't think that's true. I think there's a lot more detransitioners that want to reverse this and come back than are being reported.
But there's a lot of deep shame attached to that, obviously. Of course. It's also something that you don't want people to know about. It's so personal. It defines you for the rest of your life.
Everyone's going to know that's the guy that used to be a girl and became a guy again. And there's all the questions and all the bullshit that comes along with that.
I will say this. I don't think teachers want to get involved in this. I think some of them push it. I think teachers at large just want to teach. I don't think they want to get pulled into this.
Well, it's like bad cops, right? Yeah. You hear about a bad teacher, and you think all teachers are like that. They're not.
But that's ridiculous.
Most of them are just people who, their profession, what they enjoy, is teaching people.
They do. And let me tell you, teachers don't get into teaching for the money. I don't know a teacher that doesn't get into their own pocket to get resources for the classroom, to help with the classroom, to put up signs and bring in materials for the classroom. Most of them are very dedicated.
They're very good people that teach because they really want to help young people. I think they're some of the most underpaid, dedicated people in this entire country, and they don't want to deal with this stuff.
Agreed. I feel the same way as I feel about teachers as I do about police officers. I think most of them are great.
I do, too. I think they're great.
Just there's a small amount of interactions that people have. And I also think about both teachers and police officers. The stress of their job and the experiences that they have, particularly if you're teaching public school and maybe a sketchy area, those people are risking their health. often. There's violence.
It happens all the time to teachers. There's all these cell phone videos of teachers getting beat up.
I did a show last week with three teachers from around the country that tried to take a cell phone, tell a student to put their cell phone away, and got attacked. And one of them wound up in the hospital for a week, had to have knee surgery, go on, workers' comp, wound up having to take bankruptcy, lost her house. All of that. A student jumped on her and just beat the hell out of her.
Is this the one that was in the hallway? It was a viral video?
Well, the one I'm talking about had 67 million views.
Is this a woman that was beat up by a man or a young boy?
No, I saw that one. This one was beat up by a girl.
Another girl.
And, you know, here's the thing. There were all of these students taking videos of it, but nobody helping. Finally, somebody pulled the girl off the teacher.
Well, they're scared. If you jump in, they'll attack you, and, you know, people are scared.
It is scary. And, you know, people will hear us talk about this and say, oh, you're transphobic. I don't hate anybody. I just am concerned for the welfare of young people that get led in a particular direction.
Well, that's just a way to silence people from talking about it. They'll say you're transphobic. And it might not even necessarily be people. I have a feeling a lot of the shit that we're dealing with online is foreign agents. And then what they're doing is setting up thousands and thousands of accounts and targeting specific topics and specific things.
And I think that's one of them. I think it would be a great way to weaken America, to make everybody at each other's throats about the dumbest fucking things and then even put children and children's health and lives at risk with this crazy shit that we're talking about right now. And the more that stuff is going on in our country, the more there's going to be a decay of our appreciation for America, less patriotism, less paying attention to what we're doing.
Well, let me tell you, I've been, you've heard all of these stories of people getting swatted. Yes. And for anybody that doesn't know, that's when they call in a phony report. And so a SWAT team shows up at your house that can go south in a hurry.
And it has. Yeah.
People have died. Yeah. People have been shot. Yeah. Since New Year's Eve, Robin and I have had SWAT incidences six times.
Jesus Christ.
And I'm no victim. So I fight back. And I've got cybersecurity people. And we got involved and found out what was going on. And the source of this was a group out of Russia.
Of course.
And these bot farms, when people say that, you know, you think these are phony accounts and people are hating on the Internet and posting all this stuff up and they're not real accounts. These bot farms, some of them, these accounts are 10 or 12 years old. And they've got millions, not 10 or 10,000 or 12,000, millions in these bot farms. And so we've been getting into all that with our cybersecurity experts. And when all of a sudden somebody targets somebody and says, oh, they're transphobic or they're racist or whatever.
And you get into who, all saying this. These aren't real accounts. They're not real people. And so somebody goes, oh, well, I need to apologize for this or apologize for that.
You know, I know who I am. I know what I believe. I'm not transphobic. I'm not racist. I'm not any of those things.
And so they jump on and start saying all that stuff about you. Well, you know, you just got to decide, you know who you are or you don't.
Yeah. It's just. people need to be aware of what's going on. If you're engaging in these social media platforms, that is a factor. There are real people out there and you can connect with them, and it's very valuable.
You can learn a lot of things. You can interact with a lot of people. But also there's a lot of fake accounts, a lot. And there was an FBI, a former FBI, was he, an analyst, Jamie? He estimated that it may be as high as 80% of all the accounts on Twitter are fake.
I won't say X. Elon's my friend, but X is ridiculous. I'll say it occasionally if I'm being charitable.
It's fucking Twitter.
Because what are you making an X? No, you're tweeting. I tweeted this thing out. We've been saying that for too long, bro. You can't just change it.
But that's an insane number. Let's say he's wrong. by 30%. It's still half. Half the people online.
I mean, if he's accurate, that's crazy. That means there's just been a mass infiltration of foreign agents into all of the discourse about politics and gender and society, and women's rights and men's rights, and war and Ukraine and every fucking thing that happens in the world. Everything. And you're getting confused as to what the general consensus is of the population. Because you go out with most people, and you're like, what do you think about that?
And they're like, fuck, that. You're like, yeah, right? Fuck that. Why is everybody going along with this? What the hell's going on?
Yeah, it's like the emperor's new clothes. Nobody wants to speak up because they don't want to seem like a fool. And I did not want to write another book. I told Robin, I'd written nine books, and I said, I'm done. My last book will be an autobiography when I'm sitting out in the backyard or playing golf every day.
But I wrote this book, We've Got Issues. How You Can Stand Strong for America's Soul and Sanity. Because I looked around at what was going on and said, somebody's got to tell the truth. Somebody's got to call this for what it is. And one of the big things I talk about is what happened to our society because of social media platforms and the Internet.
And think about it. We had the Industrial Revolution, right? And until that happened, we were a very agricultural-driven society, right? Everybody worked on the farm. And so family units were really tight because everybody had to work all day, every day.
And so they'd come in at noon and have a meal. And they'd come back at dinnertime and have dinner. And everybody worked together on the farm. But then, when things got mechanized with the Industrial Revolution, then people moved to the city. And we went from 95% agricultural to now it's about 1%.
And that was a huge change in the human race. And there's not been that big a change until 2008 or 2009.. And that was the advent of the smartphone. It was like big airplanes flew over the country and dropped smartphones on everybody. That's the biggest change in society since the Industrial Revolution.
Think about it. We went from walking around with our heads up like this to down. People checked their phone an average of 352 times a day. Think about it. 352 times a day.
That's insane. Now, that's adults and children alike. And look what happened to kids. When I turned 16, when I was 15 and 364 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes, I was at the DMV waiting to get my driver's license. Now, kids turn 16, they don't even go get their driver's license.
Yeah, I get it sometime. They start dating later. They start having sex later. They get their driver's license. Everything later.
Why? Because they're watching people live their lives on the Internet instead of living their own lives. And in 2008,, 2009, and 2010, we saw the biggest spikes in depression, anxiety, suicide, and loneliness since they've been keeping records. That's when the cell phones came out. That's when smartphones came out.
That's when the Internet blew up. Because people started watching people live their lives instead of living their own life. And those lives they were watching were fiction. And they compared their life to that life and said, I suck.
Well, there's a lot of depression amongst women. More self-harm than ever. More suicidal ideology and suicide. It's like Jonathan Haidt's work,
The Coddling of the American Mind. It shows. There's a real spike when social media becomes invented. Because you're comparing yourself. There's no comparing.
You can't compare. First of all, those people are either surgically altered or they're using filters. There's a lot of them. I mean, some of them are natural. But for the most part, you're getting these glamorous depictions of a life that's impossible for you to imagine.
that's depressing.
I've had influencers on the show. that said, I post a video where I'm putting on all these clothes and saying, I'm going to the NBA All-Star Game. Should I wear this or should I wear that? They said, as soon as that camera stops, I carefully take those clothes off because I don't own them. I have to take them back to the store.
I'm not going to the NBA All-Star Game. I'm going to sit on the couch in my sweats, just like everybody else. You've seen it. There's that private jet thing in Santa Monica. They rent that out by the 15 minutes.
Yeah, you go into a fake private jet and you take photos like you're living the jet set lifestyle. You're just on a set somewhere.
It's in a warehouse out there. They get in there and put on their beach clothes and their ski clothes. They ain't going anywhere.
They ain't going anywhere.
Everybody compares themselves to that and goes, I'm such a loser. My life sucks.
They compare themselves and go, yeah, I'm no good. Everybody started getting depressed. It went up.
The thing is, if you do it really well, if you become a fitness influencer or an online influencer and do it really well, you become super successful. You can actually make a really good living doing it. What we're seeing with a lot of these people are just really bad open micers. They want to be Dave Chappelle, but it's a long way to the top. if you want to rock and roll.
If you want to be an influencer, they're just sort of LARPing.
Listen to this. Since 2010 and 2011,, there was a 62% increase for older teens, 189% increase in depression for preteens, 70% increase in suicide for older teens, 151% increase for preteens. I mean, that's terrible.
Terrible.
And I think the biggest part of it is because they stopped living their lives. They don't have friends. They don't get out and do activities. They're addicted to this two-dimensional screen. Yeah.
And what comes after that thing? Because that thing, no one would have ever believed, that a little thing you keep in your pocket would have you on at six hours a day. They're like, that's not possible. But you look at your screen time. Most people, Jimmy, what's your screen time?
What's your average?
I mean, I've thought about this. It doesn't include when I'm looking at my laptop and then my other computer.
Does it include that?
It's just my iPhone.
Right. Oh, right, right. You're saying it'd be more.
Yeah, I switch off my phone to look at different screens. I'm looking at my TV and then four screens at home. But my screen time is like four hours a day.
Mine would be way higher if I didn't have to do a podcast. That's the one thing about podcasts. It's one of the rare opportunities where you sit and talk to a person and you're not interacting with that stupid thing at all.
Yeah. I wonder if people, of course, because of what I do from a psychological standpoint, I wonder if people ever stop and think how many people you look at every day and never really see when you go through your life. A lot. The people in the parking lot, the people behind the camera that you look at and never really see.
Yeah. How many people you write off?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, as we've become, especially if you're living in the city, as we've become more populated, people have become almost, they look at people as like a liability. They look at people as like an inconvenience. There's too many of them. As opposed to if you live in a place that doesn't have very many people, you look at people like, that's my neighbor. What's up, Bob?
There's a guy in my neighborhood. I drive by him and he's always working on his garden. I look forward to waving to this guy because he waves at every car, every car that drives by. The guy puts his hands up, waves. I love that dude.
It's a Texas thing.
It's a Texas thing.
Yeah.
It's that, uh, my friend Bridget says it's Texas friendly. Yeah. Yeah. But the fucking guy does it to everybody. Everybody that comes by.
I watch. This guy just waves, waves at everybody.
People, I have friends coming from California and somebody lets you in traffic, you know, you wave at them. What are you doing? What guy let me in traffic? I'm thanking him.
Bro, if you live in New York City and you wave at everybody, you see, you're going to get the fuck beat. now. Someone's going to beat your ass.
What are you trying to start something?
Someone's going to fuck you up. Someone's definitely going to rob you. You're just standing still, waving.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. What do you got on you, bro? This is, uh, it's, it's a better way to live. It's a better way to live, to be friendly to people.
Oh, for sure.
And I think, um, the anxiety of the internet is, is, uh, I often compare it to the anxiety of living in a hyper-populated city. It's stuck in traffic every day. It's like this anxiety that comes with being stuck in traffic. You get crazy. Like friends that don't know what it's like to drive to Orange County.
We went to, uh, Orange County this past weekend for the UFC, and you're driving in Orange County, bro. You ain't going nowhere at 5 PM. You ain't going nowhere. No. You're going nowhere.
That's bumper to bumper. Everywhere you look, it's wild and it takes hours to get anywhere and salute those heroes. Those people who live in Orange County and commute to LA, you people are savages. You just wanted a backyard, so bad.
And when you get home, you got it made, but it's hell getting there.
It's hell getting there. But with a lot of them, what they do is they just take the ride home as bad. If you're smart, you get in real early and you go to the gym. Just get a gym near your job.
A lot of people do that.
That's the best way. Also, it's the best way to start your day. You know, you already got the workout in. You're awake when you get to work. It's the best way to do it.
You can get it in. We used to have a lot of 6.30 jiu-jitsu classes. I was always amazed. But I'm like, yeah, that's what you got to do. You work at 9..
Get in there at 6.30.. You beat traffic. You made it downtown.
Yeah, you got to adapt. You got to adapt. Things are changing, but we're not adapting very well. in too many areas. We're not adapting very well.
That's what my fear is. My fear is that technology moves so fast, the only way to adapt is to integrate. That's what my big fear is. My big fear is that, with all this Neuralink stuff, I don't even know if it's a fear or if it's a prognostication. When I look at the future, I go, well, if you just take it from here and just follow a normal path of progression, where's it going?
It's going to deeper and deeper integration. And it's my fear that this is what we're looking forward to. We're looking forward to some sort of integration, whether it's a headpiece or an actual implant. I don't think we're very far away from that.
Now, this AI is going to change things in a big way.
We're in an election year right now, and creating deep fakes, using AI. I'm really wondering if it's going to drive the election in some ways this year, because it's getting so good. I've seen myself in ads selling products. I mean, me talking, selling products. I've never even heard of.
It's not me.
Same as me.
It's a deep fake.
There's hundreds of them. I saw a Warren Buffett, one that's all over the internet. It's Warren Buffett getting interviewed by a lady on CNN about Bitcoin. And it's everywhere. If I pull up my feed right now, I'll show it.
And I understand how they can't find this and make it so that no one can upload it. But this video is in, I'll show you, because it's so crazy. It's in so much of my feed. All these giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, giveaway. These are all different versions of the same video.
It's like 35% of my feed. All these giveaway, giveaway, giveaway, giveaway. There's so many of them. It's all the same thing. It's all Warren Buffett telling you about Bitcoin, some things they're doing.
It's all deep fake.
Yeah. And I don't know how. We try to send out cease and desist letters and all this stuff. They just change the corporate entity and pop up again.
I've done the whole rabbit hole. It goes all the way back to Russia. It's the same kind of thing. Or it goes somewhere else. There's a bunch of foreign countries that are doing it.
They're doing it, especially these kind of things. It's like the Nigerian print scam. They know how to make money. You don't have to get everybody. If you cast a wide net, you get a few fish.
Most fish are like, I see that net. Get the fuck out of here. But there's a lot of people that are just dull-minded. And they've got a little bit of money in their bank account. And next thing, you know, they're investing in some fake Bitcoin exchange.
Yeah. We see it in the love scams all the time.
Oh, the love scams are horrible.
And they're coming out. And it's so sad because these are elderly women that are retired. And in sometimes 30, 60 days, they'll take what they spent their entire life accumulating. And it's gone. I mean, there's no getting it back.
It's gone.
And it's just interaction on email with someone. Is that what it is?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, now it's even worse, because they are deep faking. Yeah. And it's some Nigerian.
But they do a voice anonymizer. And they're actually talking to her.
You can use someone else's voice now too. Yeah. That's what's really crazy. That they can use your voice to say. All they have to do is record a phone conversation.
I think it's like 30 seconds long. And they can take that phone conversation and use your voice to call someone and tell them anything. Hey, listen. I'm in real bad trouble. You've got to do me a favor.
A solid favor. right now. You need to wire $2,000.. I'll pay you back Monday. Trust me.
This is like a thing for my life. I can't tell you anymore. But can you do this for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I got you.
I got you. And next thing, you know, your friend walks through the door. You go, I was just wiring money to you. Like, what? Yeah.
The fuck are you talking about? I'm right here.
And it'll be somebody like really famous. that's obviously very rich. And they'll say, I just need $5,000 right now. Why would somebody that is clearly a multimillionaire need $5,000?? They don't think.
Well, they probably are hypnotized by the fact that they're talking to Dr. Phil. First of all, they're like, what? The real doctor? You're.
the doctor, Dr. Phil? Oh, my God. I've seen you show a thousand times. So they're hypnotized by that.
And then you're making sense. Like, I'm going to do you a solid. You give me this $5,000.. I'm going to give you $50,000 on Monday. Like, holy shit.
Okay. Like, we're running a thing to see how trustworthy people are. I think people are trustworthy. And I trust you. So I'm going to do this for you.
You send $5,000.. You trust me. And then next thing, you know, that guy's out $5,000.. And it wasn't really you. That's easy to believe.
Yeah, it's human nature. And we intercepted a manual from Nigeria. And it was a training manual for the workroom. And it says, you know, how to get these women to trust you. It says contact them, like, at 10 o'clock at night.
That's when they're most vulnerable. Wow. It had, like, 20 or 30 pickup lines. Wow. It had all of these poems to use, all of this stuff.
We've got the manual. We've put it on the air, so people see it.
Imagine that is an industry. How clever are Nigerians, though? They figured that out immediately upon the internet. They're one of the first ones. They were the pioneers of the online scam.
Yeah. We got. a couple of them have been extradited back to the United States now. Really? Where they'll probably get in front of a DA that gives them their walking papers.
Especially if it's in New York. Yeah. You're in, you're out. Unless you're Donald Trump, then you're going to jail. Yeah.
But what they're doing is pretty wild, that they use the internet that way. I mean, I wonder how big that industry is. I bet it's pretty sizable.
Oh, I think it's a billion-dollar industry. I think they're taking down a billion dollars. I think it's big, big money. God. We've had some on the show where they've taken down a million dollars from one woman.
Oh.
Sometimes it's $10,000, $20,000.. Sometimes it's $100,000.. But we've had them, it's a million dollars.
I was watching this one really sad one. It was this lady and her dad. And her dad, the mom had died. And the dad was lonely. And the dad had been interacting with some woman.
And he went all the way to Europe to meet her. He had been sending her money. Went all the way to Europe to meet her. And then something came out, but she couldn't meet him. And then it happened again.
He went to Europe again and again. And, you know, by this time, he's in the hole. $250,000, $350,000..
Just sending money to this person that doesn't exist.
When I finally prove it to him, it's painful to do it. I tell him, I take no pleasure in telling you this. But the only thing worse than being in a bad relationship for a year is being in one for a year and a day. You need to know it now. Yeah.
And it stopped the bleeding.
It's unbelievable.
God, that's got to be devastating, too. For the rest of your life, you feel like a fucking loser, too.
Yeah, and you know you're not ever going to get it back.
No, you're never going to get it back. They got you, this humiliation. You feel so foolish.
Yeah, and when they realize it's a foreigner that's taken it from somewhere that is halfway around the world, it's terrible. And I think part of that is why people are so kind of paranoid about what's happening at the border, you know, with people coming across. They know that they're coming across from so many different countries. now. I think there's a distrust.
Well, rightly so. This is something that every president has agreed on. If you go back and watch Obama's speeches, you go back and watch Bush's speeches, all the presidents before us, including Clinton, have all talked about having a border, having a strong border, having a protected border. But this is a weird thing they're doing. They're just letting people come in, and the Red Cross is encouraging it.
Different groups are encouraging it. They're giving people maps, showing them how to do it. This is crazy. This is a mass migration into America.
Well, I've been to the border recently, and I talked to those guards down there. And I'm telling you, I spent just a day down there, and I know there have been people that have spent a lot more time down there than that.
But what I heard down there was,
even knowing, I felt like I knew a lot about it before I went down there,
but I was shocked. As much as I thought I knew about it, I was shocked when I got down there.
First off, the morale among those guards down there, the fact that they're hanging in and doing as well as they are,
they're turning into social workers. They went down there to be guards, and they say, what we're doing now, instead of apprehending these people, is we're greeting these people. And we're processing them and giving them money and resources. And it's interesting. You've been down there, right?
I have not.
There are the Texas border guards, and they wear brown uniforms. And then there are the federal that wear green. And if you get apprehended by a brown uniform, you get arrested, processed, and sent back. If you get apprehended by a green uniform, you get arrested, processed, given a court date in four years, seven years, or whatever, and released into the country. So they run to the green uniforms and run away from the brown uniforms.
Same job, different color uniforms. The green uniforms, their court date might be seven years. But if they run into a green uniform, they get processed, money, and they're into the country.
That's wild. And when did that start happening?
You know, it's been going on for a good while. Now, Abbott, of course, has been taking some of them and bussing them up into different locations. Yeah. Instead of sending them back, which has lately been something you can't do. You can't send them back.
So they can't send them back now?
Well, I don't know what they're doing with them, since this last thing that they just came up with.
In talking to the union guy who's head of the union for all of the guards, it was interesting. I asked him, what do you need? What do you need down here to do your job? His name is Brandon Judd. And he said, we don't need more money.
We don't need more agents. We don't need new legislation. We just need you to let us do our job. We just need you to apply the laws that exist now, and we'll be fine. You don't need –.
I said, wait a minute. You're telling me you don't need more money or more agents? He said, no. Just let us do our job. We had in place a hold in Mexico.
Instead of come over here, just use the legislation that's on the books, and we're fine.
We're not trying to keep people out. We just want to have enough of a flow control that we know who's coming in. They're not – these aren't bad guys that are trying to be mean to people down there. We just need to know who it is.
What do you think the motivation is behind the federal Border Patrol? people letting people go? Whose decision is this? and why? Forget about whose.
We don't know that, right? Why? Why would they want that? What are the benefits of that? Is it cheap labor?
Is it people eventually that will vote?
Well, I think it's virtue signaling. I think they've taken this position. that said, hey, we want everybody. And I get that. Listen, I'm very pro-immigration.
I just think it needs to be legal. You need to go through the process. It's a felony to enter this country illegally.
But they're doing that, and they're pulling them out of the water. They're pulling them off of the wall and processing them and giving them a court date. that, because of our system, is sometimes seven or ten years. And then they're legally in the country. They've got papers saying, no, no, I was processed at the border.
They're just not coming through the ports of entry.
Right, but you're aware that this is happening all over the world, right? Right.
Yeah.
So what do you think? the motivation? There's got to be some sort of a decision that's been made to allow this to happen or to not stop it from happening or to encourage it to happen. It's not like this is like a spontaneous, organic movement. People just decide to move to Europe, and people just decide to move to America.
It seems like it's something coordinated, right?
Well, look at it this way. Look at California, for example.
I said we've got issues. I talk about ten principles for healthy society, and one is you don't reward bad behavior. We've got people that we know are lawbreakers if they're coming in illegally. And so what do we expect them to do once they get here?
And we're rewarding that behavior. They come in illegally. We reward it by giving them a free pass for seven to ten years, because that's how long it's going to take for them to get a hearing. And you know how many will show up for that hearing, and most people would say none. No, I bet you.
they all show up for their hearings because it's been seven to ten years, and they'll show up and say, hey, I've been waiting seven to ten years. The system will probably, at that point, let them stay. They've been here seven to ten years. They've had children who are citizens because they were now born in the country. I bet you, a high percentage of them show up for those hearings because they will predict getting a good result when they show up for the hearing, and they'll have American-born children at that point.
So we're subsidizing behavior that we don't want. We don't know who it is, and they tell me that between 2010 and 2020, they had about 11,000 to 1,500 Chinese come across the border. And in the first 11 months of 2023, they had about 33,000 come across the border.
Are you worried about that in terms of it being a military threat? Are you thinking these are people that are escaping a totalitarian, oppressive government, and they want to be able to make their own money and live in the land of the free and the home of the brave?
Yes.
Both?
I think there are people that 100% want to get out away from the oppressive government there, for sure. And the number of military-aged men—I'm just told by people that are at the border and have witnessed this themselves—the number of military-aged men that are showing up with military haircuts, clearly in shape. These guys are showing up with six-packs and military boots that are coming in. It's not an insignificant number. Now, where are they going?
We don't know. We don't know where they're going. We're not following them. We're not tracking them. One thing I want to be real careful about—and I'm very sincere about this—I don't want to say anything that causes people to feel badly or foster any kind of hatred toward Asian people in the United States.
It's not the people, it's the government that's the problem. I think that we've got—it's just like, if they are sending people over here that are military-aged with an agenda, would we be naive to think that if we've let that many in, that they couldn't spread out across the country? And, in some coordinated effort, attack the energy grid here on a given day and create havoc? Of course they could.
Of course they could. Do you remember when that cop went rogue in L.A. a few years back? I don't remember what caused it, what happened, what the situation was, but he just started killing people. He killed a bunch of people.
He killed a bunch of cops. And then they wound up getting to him near Big Bear. Somewhere up there, he had holed up in a cabin and they wound up shooting him. Do you remember that story?
I remember it exactly.
And he terrorized that city for as long as he was alive. He terrorized those cops. And a good friend of mine who knows a lot about the military world and the tactical world, said, listen, man, it would take 10 dudes, 10 well-trained dudes, and they'd take over this fucking city. I go, really? He goes, 10 guys.
He goes, 10 bad motherfuckers who are well-trained and well-armed. Do you remember the, was it North Hollywood, the bank robbery where those crazy fucks showed up with bulletproof vests and machine guns and took over a bank and had a shootout with the cops on the street? It was insane. It was like a scene out of Heat.
That scares the fucking shit out of me.
Well, it should. I mean, we should be afraid of that.
With all this defund, the police talk, and then that happening at the same time, if you were playing chess and you were from another country, and we're so naive because nothing ever happens here. We try to imagine that it only happens in other places. But we're part of the reason why it's happening in a lot of these other places. And if you were from another country and you decided to slowly amass a force in the United States, that's what you would do. And to see this happening, to see that no one is saying that might be a possibility.
that's not being discussed. I mean, I hear a few people like you saying it. Brett Weinstein said it, a few other people say it, but most people don't even want to even put it out there.
And I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but let's be commonsensical here. How do I get on the Wi-Fi here? I want to show you something.
Jamie, can you send it to him?
Let's pause here. Let's pause for a second and Jamie will get you connected. Hold on a second. You ever seen a man type so fast with one hand?
No, and he did it the first time.
Jamie's a goddamn wizard. He's the best one-handed Googler on planet Earth. And now he's extra hindered because he's got Carl on his lap.
I heard Carl snoring earlier. I was listening. I heard a little...
Can I send this to Carl? Can you wake Carl up enough for me to send it to him? He's got quick pause. How can I send this to you?
You can airdrop it.
Jamie, help him out here.
How do I send this to you?
We're back.
Can you play that?
What is it?
This is from the border.
It's a video of the border?
Yeah, it's me talking to that, Brandon Chud at the border. Okay, here we go. Will it play?
These children that are coming in with someone that says, I'm their mother, aunt, uncle, or whatever, we have no way of verifying that.
We do not. We used to. Under President Trump, we had rapid DNA testing. That's been done away with.
Are they given money? These people that are released into the country?
So it's our taxpayers that ultimately facilitate the travel. But yes, travel is facilitated, and they are given all the necessities that they need.
But that could be a trafficker.
There's a very good possibility that they're being trafficked, that they're going into the sex industry, or they're being forced into the sweatshops.
And we know that. We knowingly are spending our tax dollars to sell children into sex trafficking. How under any theory is that okay for us to be spending tax dollars to traffic children?
Holy shit.
Now, this is the head guy on the border. And I asked him when this went on a little more, we went in more depth. You know you're on camera here, right? You just said we're spending tax dollars to sell children into sex slavery. And he said, yeah.
I said, why have you not talked about this? He said, nobody's ever asked me these pointed questions. But I'm grateful that you're asking them now. That's how out of control we are down there. We are paying money to take these children and sell them into sex slavery.
They come in with these addresses written on their bodies, written on their arm. And we call up there and say, do you know so-and-so? Yes, we're waiting for them. Okay. They'll be on a plane or a bus.
And you need to pick them up. And I asked him, so some pimp or trafficker or whatever is picking them up up there. And he said, we are knowingly sending them up there for that.
And he said, it's terrible, but that's what's happening.
That's insane. That is insane. And there's no way of verifying. with their parents they're going to or an aunt they're going to. There's no way of verifying it.
I asked him. He said, no.
Now, what justification could possibly exist where they would stop doing the rapid DNA test?
I mean, what possible justification would there be to stop that?
It makes no sense, because if they find out, well, this isn't their parent, then, okay, what are they going to do with the child?
And so I guess, don't ask and then you don't have the responsibility. But they're sending these children up there. And he's saying we are knowingly. We're knowingly sending them into either a sweatshop or the sex industry up there.
Has anybody tried to do an expose? Has anybody tried to follow the children?
Well, that's why I was asking. Because I'm like, has somebody gotten on the same bus or plane and see who's picking them up or who's not? And he said, yeah, that's happening. Why are we talking about? Well, nobody's asked this, and I'm grateful that you are.
So people are getting on the buses and planes with them to try to find out where they're going. No. No, he said they're not.
No.
Oh, I thought you said, I thought you just said.
No, I said, why haven't you talked about this? He said, well, nobody's asked this question, but I'm grateful that you are.
My God, that's so insane.
And that's just a little clip. We went in more depth about this.
And the numbers are fucking nuts. Yeah. This past year has been like three million. Yeah.
So we've got,
I've then dug into what's happening with Chinese buying, the Chinese government or Chinese nationals buying farmland. And I've got a map, if I can find it, of where they're buying this land. And it's around U.S. military installations. They're buying up land around U.S.
military installations.
And so, when you look at the amount of land that they're buying, it's not all that much. It's a lot of land. But given as much land as there is, it's like maybe less than one percent. But when you look at it strategically around military installations, it's really concerning. And then, when you look at what's happening at those military installations, that they have land around, like B-2, stealth, bomber training, drone training and all, it's very, very troubling.
God, it's so strategic where it's all placed.
Yeah. If I can get a hold of that map and show it to you.
It's kind of crazy that the United States has been invaded. And when did that start? with the purchase of farmland?
You know, it's been going on.
For how long?
This is what I'm talking about. Sun owns 40 percent of Chinese land in the U.S. He owns over 100,000 acres of land in Val Verde County, Texas. All those two companies, Brazos Highland Properties and Harvest Texas, all through his two companies. His purchases in 2016 and 2017, his plans to build a wind farm, as well as his purported ties to Chinese military, drew scrutiny in Texas.
several years after his acquisitions. He ultimately was denied permission to proceed with his wind farm plans. So they own the land, but they won't let him proceed with the wind farm.
Yeah. And they're building a wind farm where it's not very windy.
But it does butt up against a strategic military installment.
What a coincidence. This is the best land that was available. Sorry. How would that be possible here under logical laws? Because in China you can't do that.
They're smart. You can't just buy their land.
We absolutely cannot buy farmland there. No.
You can't buy their businesses either.
Now, we had a man on talking about this, a farmer, and he said they also own the grain elevator where we sell our grain. The Chinese own that. Chinese government owns that. So I said Chinese government. Chinese own that.
Now, is it the government? Is it a government agent who owns it? He said it's Chinese owned and controlled. If they decide to stop buying his grain, I said, what happens? He said, well, we're out of business.
And then you take that on top of that, the topsoil crisis in this country. They've got like 60 more crops left.
Unless they do something radical to change it.
And again, I want to be real careful about how I talk about this, because I'm not trying. Look, we have so many Chinese Americans here that are wonderful people that contribute so much. I don't want to say anything to create any animus against these people or Chinese people in general. So many of these people are trying to get away from the Chinese Communist Party. They're just trying to get away from them.
How they're getting out, I don't know. It's a long way and it's expensive. And you don't just wake up in China and say, I think I'll take a vacation. That's not how that works. You've got to get a visa, right?
You've got to get permission to leave. You've got family back there. I don't know how they're getting out. But I know that we've got an awful lot coming across our southern border. And when military-age Chinese men are showing up at the border, and it's mostly in California where they're showing up, and it's an awful lot.
You really have to wonder. You really do have to wonder.
Did you ever think you'd be in a position where you'd be talking like this? No. Because it sounds conspiratorial.
It does sound conspiratorial. And I deal with psychological issues. But these are issues that are on people's mind. now. They're saying, I'm anxious about this.
It bothers me. I feel like my family is under attack here. We don't have the peace of mind that we used to have. Even farmers are saying, this is troubling to us. We don't know what to do about this.
We don't know how to feel about it. We don't know what to say about it. And nobody's talking about this. Well, I'm talking about it.
Well, I'm glad you are. Because if not, we'll be talking about it when it's too late. And we'll be saying, how the fuck do we not see this coming?
And what I want is, I think if people will start talking about it, people will hear us talking about it and say, you know, these aren't crazy conspiracy guys. These are pretty commonsensical guys that are saying, we should just ask the questions. We should be asking, why isn't anybody asking the questions? And we're not the only people asking the questions. But we certainly have big microphones to be asking the questions with.
It's just a complete failure of corporate media that they're not asking these questions.
Yeah, and that is the entire reason that I did this network, Merritt Street Media. You know, Robin, and I was sitting at our kitchen bar at our house in California, and I was flipping back and forth between different news networks. And I was so frustrated. I said, why won't somebody just tell the truth? Why does everything have to be spin, spin, spin, spin, spin?
Why doesn't somebody just say what's happening and let us do it? But the media just won't say it straight. And she was sitting there eating, and she didn't even look up. She just said, well, you are the media.
And I thought, yeah, well. And she said, you have a bigger audience than those last three combined, so why don't you do something about it? Yeah,
it really kind of hit me hard, and I thought, why don't I do something about it? I mean, why don't I create a platform to just ask the questions and tell the truth without all the spin, and let people make up their own mind? I mean, somebody needs to say, have you thought about, or did you know that last year 33,000 plus Chinese came across the border?
Illegally.
Did you know that? And I just want you to know and do with it as you will. And if it causes you to start asking questions and writing your congressman or asking questions of them, then great. But you ought to at least know this is happening. I don't want you to come up five years now and say, well, nobody ever said anything to me.
Well, yeah, they did. I raised my hand and I said it. And maybe it'll cause somebody else to say it and somebody else to say it.
Has anybody had a conversation with you about this that has an opposing perspective?
Oh, of course.
What is their perspective?
Their perspective is these aren't illegal immigrants. You can't. That's not kind to say they're illegal.
Well,
we've always used that term for lack of a better term.
Well, OK, so undocumented.
What do you want to call them?
Well, that's unkind. They're, they're migrants. And I understand they want to be here. I don't, I don't begrudge them that if, if I was living over there under an oppressive government like that, I would want to, I would want to be gone.
And I totally get it. I would, I would want to be out of there. I really do. I get that. But that doesn't change the fact that we have to pretend that we don't know what's going on.
We need to be aware of it. And if, if, if it means that we need to say, look, this is concerning.
We shouldn't be selling farmland around military installations. There's a lot of land to buy. Wonder why they're buying it. Right up against military installations.
Have any politicians talked about this? Has Trump ever talked about this?
Not that I am aware of.
Why would that not be something he would bring up?
Well, you would certainly think he would.
Yeah. I mean, I know he's talked about the border, but I don't think he's talked about in depth. Is it possible that he's not aware of it? as far as the way, you're aware of it?
How could he not?
How could he not be? But then again, the guy's got like five legal cases going on. He's running for president. He's selling sneakers. Yeah.
See his sneakers?
No, I saw that he was selling.
I'm getting a pair for Tony Hinchcliffe. They're perfect for him. They're gold. They're gold sneakers. He's got like three pairs.
One's white. One's red. Yeah. Wow. That looks rough.
Hey, stop it, Jamie. For $400?. Oh, I heard there was $5,000.. That's what. I think.
they're already sold out. They're selling them online for $5,000.. Because we were going to wear them for Sober October.
OK. I.
Look at those things. Look at these monstrosities.
Look at these things.
Oh, wow. You're going to get a pair?
Oh, hell yeah. I can see Dr. Phil rocking a Trump gold.
How do I airdrop something to you? Here we go again. How do you come up?
It'd be like Jamie's MacBook Pro. Got it. Bam.
I just airdropped this to you. It says waiting.
I am accepting it.
OK.
What is this?
This is this map with the military installations. You got to look at this.
Is it similar to what he just showed?
No.
Jamie just showed where the farmland was.
This is different. Look at this.
So there's the military.
That's the farmland. There's the military installations on top of it.
Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
Look at that. Now, is that.
Look how much farmland they have.
But is that accidental? Come on. That's not random.
It doesn't seem too random. But it also seems amazing how much farmland they have.
Yeah.
Was this always legal? Is that part of the problem with our open society? That any foreign country can come over here? Any foreign investor can come over here and buy land?
Well, I thought there was restrictions on what foreign entities could buy.
So number one is Canada. Canada has the most farmland. They own 12.8 million acres here. Netherlands owns 4.9.. Italy owns 2.7..
U.K., 2.5.. Germany, 2.3.. And China, 380,000.. And this is as of 2023, June of last year.
Yeah. It seems pretty strategic where it's owned. Yeah.
Because if you put that back up for a second, let me tell you what's at some of these places.
Land near the Air Force Base in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Sending lawmakers into a frenzy in 2021..
Yeah. You know, there's another thing that Mike Baker, who's from the CIA, had brought up. Is that one of the things that they're doing is selling cell phone tower equipment. And selling routers and undercutting other companies and making, like, really good deals. So they can set up these cheap routers and cell phone companies.
And, you know, a lot of these have been proven, especially with the company Huawei, right? When they outlawed Huawei from selling phones in this country. Yeah. They were proven that some of their technology has third-party access. They can do things and siphon information and perhaps even, you know, intercept cell phone signals.
Yeah. Well, where they bought? in Utah, it's the largest supersonic authorized restricted airspace in the United States. They've got land right next to it. Whitman Air Force Base.
B-2 Spirit, Stealth Bomber Base. Missile and drone operations. MQ-9 Reaper. Global Strike Command. Three intercontinental ballistic missile wings.
And they're right next to it. Fort Liberty. They're right next to it. I mean, all of that stuff. Why would you want your biggest global threat next to those?
You have no idea what they have there.
I don't play StarCraft. But I imagine, if I was watching someone play StarCraft and all this was setting up, I'm like, oh, they're going to get smoked.
Yeah. I mean, it's just...
It's insane.
I think you've got to be concerned.
But it's just weird that it's legal. It really is. It's really weird. And especially given what we know about Chinese corporations, that they are a part of the government. They work hand in hand.
They don't get to be independent.
Yeah.
And still lawmakers from both parties want to limit purchases by Chinese companies, especially those with ties to the Chinese government, which is all of them, and individuals. To this end, there are several bills in Congress aimed at limiting Chinese ownership separately. The Biden administration is tightening its rules over who can buy land near military bases. We're going to tighten those rules. What does that mean?
How about just make it illegal? Tightening the rules seems... You should take back the land.
You know. what worries me about our young generation is, you know, I don't know if you saw what I had to say about Harvard and...
Oh, that craziness with the anti-Semitic talk? Yeah. Yeah, we've talked about that ad nauseum. It was insane, right?
You know, I think one of the things I said was all they're doing is creating intellectual rot. They're not teaching these kids anything about critical thinking.
I don't know what they're teaching at universities now, but if they're not teaching critical thinking, if they're not teaching these kids who were getting ready to turn, the world over to, for your kids, Jay's kids, my grandkids, how are they, how are they going to think their way through this? I mean, we're selling them this land here, and we're getting ready to turn the world over to kids who will be adults, that we're not teaching to critically think, we're not teaching a meritocracy. How the hell does that work?
We're also not encouraging different opinions. I mean, universities have always been a battleground of intellectual discourse, where people get together and they debate things. But if you have an opposing opinion, they'll pull the fire alarm. They'll chant and scream and stop you from talking. They'll try to block speakers from coming.
They'll call in bomb threats. Wild shit. that is the exact opposite of what universities are supposed to be about. What debates are supposed to be about is an opportunity to prove that you're right. And if you're really good at debating, you can make that person look foolish, and you recruit more people to your side of thinking.
That's a great way to figure out who's right and who's wrong. If you really believe that your opinions are so much more valid than some person who's a conservative Christian, let that person talk. Get on stage with them. Have an open discourse in front of the entire population of the student body. Let them all come.
Have it for free. Let people ask questions that they want. Just do it orderly and politely, and let's get to the bottom of it. Let's get to the bottom of it. Let's find out who's wrong and who's got ridiculous ideologies and who's looking at things from a fact-based perspective.
Or maybe there's a little bit of something from both sides you agree with. There's only one way to find out, and you're not getting that from universities anymore.
You've got to air it out. What I've said about Merritt Street media is I want to own the debate lane in America because nobody else is doing that. What an opportunity, right? What a void. I said, okay, look, I'll let both sides, or three sides, whatever it is.
Now, I'm not going to give a platform to the KKK or somebody. that's just so out there. it's ridiculous.
But I had a show I taped recently about transgender. And I had transgender counselors who are in favor of this completely. And the guy's really trained. I mean, he's actually done training about this. And I had people that were vehemently opposed to it.
But I gave both sides an opportunity to discuss. And they had a really good discussion about it.
And let's air it out. If you think you're right, say so and say why.
I say in the book, we've got issues. I say that all of the major medical organizations signed off on this. I say I don't think history is going to be very kind to them. I say my point of view. But I say, listen, I'm not a physician.
So take what I say with a grain of salt. But all the medical associations say, hey, it's a good thing to do. I disagree. And I think the empirical science supports me. But they have signed off on it.
Even in the book, I put both sides out there. I say I disagree. They don't. I had Dr. Carol Hoeven on.
Do you know her story? No.
Oh, yes. No, I've had Carol Hoeven. Yeah, I've had her on the podcast.
Yeah, great. Isn't she a nice lady?
She's a great lady. I thought you said Hoeven on. No, Hoeven. I thought that name. Yeah.
Yeah. No, she was on quite a while ago.
About transgender athletes.
Yeah.
Yeah. And she said, science is clear. There's no way you can ever equate. You can't take enough testosterone blockers to equate to ever get that back balanced again. She was on my show and Fox and Friends.
They drummed her out. Yeah. They drummed her out of Harvard for doing that. And that is one of the most sweet, compassionate ladies.
They drummed her out for telling the truth. She's just telling the truth about the reality of human bodies.
She just reported to science.
Yeah. And when you make science illegal, then you've admitted that you're in a cult. You're running a cult. Because if it's not science-based and you're not open to any discussion or debate, two things. One, you have an oppression hierarchy where you value trans women above biological women.
You value them. That's the whole reason why sports exist in both the male and female division is because we've agreed that it's unfair. We've agreed. We all know it to be true. It's just unfair.
Are there exceptional women and non-exceptional men? Yes. Do they get close? No. But at the bottom of the men and the top of the women, there's not a lot of crossover when it comes to professional athletes.
No.
It's not fair at all. And do they have some decrease in performance from using estrogen and testosterone blockers and having their testicles removed? Sure. Yeah, definitely a decrease. But not enough.
It's still a male mind. It's still like Chris Williamson was on here the other day talking about the differences in spatial recognition. Men have like the significant difference in the reaction time. There's like a bunch of different factors that don't go away when you transition someone to being a woman. And then there's tendon strength.
And there's a bunch of things about, like the shape of the hips, the ability to generate force. All that stuff is like so much different.
Wingspan.
Wingspan. Yeah.
For swimmers.
Yeah.
You know, the swimmers, the difference was like 10 percent.
Also, you're not even holding standards like. it's what they have to be. They don't have to have like X amount of testosterone or X amount of estrogen. They don't have to have gone through gender transition surgery. A lot of them have their testicles.
And they're identifying as male. Or as female, rather. Like. how are you allowing that? That seems insane.
That seems like cheating. Like at its base level. You can identify it as anything. But when you're getting into sports, that's the whole reason why Title IX was created, right, is to protect women's sports.
Yeah. And as soon as she said that, as soon as she reported the science, and actually she didn't do the science. She did a meta-analysis of like 50 studies and said, overall, here's what it says. I'm just telling you what it says. Do what you want with it.
I'm just telling you what it says. Yeah. Transphobic. Drummed her out.
It's wild.
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