#2140 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

I'm here with my British friends. What the fuck's happening? Good to see you guys.

That's when it really feels good. Like, when things are too easy, I think people find more problems and get filled with more anxiety. But when there's real fear, then you can look at your friends like, bro, I love you, man. We like each other. Because, like, we could die tonight.

It could be all over.

and she said about him. You know what they're doing in their lesson? They're not following the syllabus. When you work in a shit storm where every time you walk into the building, you're like, it's not on fire.

Right. Microaggressions. The dumbest shit to be upset with. Because you don't have real shit to be upset with. And so you go looking.

And then also one of the things with microaggressions and a lot of those things is people find value, like perceived value, in being a victim of something. And so they start pushing and they realize, I'm getting results by pushing it. Like we were talking earlier about people that kind of create fake narratives because they see a grift. They see a business to get into. It's not really their opinion, and how annoying those people are to talk to.

That's what that is. It's like, you're not really upset. You just know that you can say you're upset. And then people go, oh, I'm sorry, you're upset. And then all of a sudden we have this little scenario where you're the highlight.

You're getting focus on you.

So the incentive structures are pushing this. And you see it, I think, happening across the political spectrum now, where people are really going heavy on the victimhood. Like, we are oppressed. There's a conspiracy against me, et cetera. And it gets rewarded.

Our conflict is all defund, the police. Our conflict is, you know, whatever. There's not real, this shit that's happening in Ukraine right now, or this shit that's happening in Israel right now. Like, that's real conflict. And when you don't have real conflict, you find conflict, unfortunately.

You had an easy job, comparatively speaking. You're not going to get that upset about microaggression when someone's about to throw a chair at your head. No. Because you're dealing with an aggression, aggression.

You know how much better the country's attitude would be? If we all agreed to have, like, a mandated morning workout together. It sounds crazy. Like, that's the solution. But what it is, it's injecting a difficult, a physically and mentally difficult thing to do first, especially for people that are out of shape, to do first thing in the morning.

A physical, mental challenge. The first thing of your day. And I guarantee the rest of the day. people will be like, eh, what's the big deal? A lot of the things would be like, what's the big deal?

And also you'd realize the value of doing something that's difficult to do, which most people don't do. Ever. Most people run away from that. Like, it's a fucking nuclear fire.

And if you had a lack of meaning and purpose, you quickly find it, at least in providing for this tiny thing that is entirely dependent on you. I've certainly found that.

That's it. That's what it is. It changes everything.

And if you go all the way down the road with a bad woman, and a woman that you're not compatible with, or maybe you together are bad, whatever the fuck it is, find a good one.

And I have friends that are in hell, and they don't even have kids. And they both do it to each other. It's not just the man. It's not just the woman. It's like some people just don't work together.

It just doesn't work. And if you get one of those pregnant, dude. And then they do things to hurt you, and you try to hurt each other, and they try to get more money out of you, and they want to take you to court, and they want to turn your kids against you.

I could tell you horror stories, but I won't, because some of them are too personal, too, you know, my friend's stories. But one of them is just so fucking insane. I mean, I can't even get into it, but it ruined his life. It took 15 years to resolve. It completely destroyed his life, completely destroyed him financially.

Yeah, just a crazy lady.

What's the number that end up in divorce? It's more than half, right?

What the fuck happened? If you could remember what it's like when you first meet someone and you're really into them, and just sort of keep that forever. Isn't it possible to just keep appreciating that person like that forever? Most people don't do that. They get real used to stuff, real used to people.

And then I also think there's a part of it. If you're full of shit, that person knows you're full of shit because they live with you. And then you have to face the fact that you're full of shit in their eyes every day. You're like, fuck that bitch. She doesn't even believe in me.

Next thing you know, you're getting your kids on the weekend.

But what you're saying about appreciating and not taking for granted, it's hard to do, but it's the most important thing to do.

The other day, it's been beautiful weather here. And the other day it rained, and the next day everything was vibrant, green. And I was just outside going, God, this is amazing. This view of the vibrancy of this life, these trees and the grass. Just take it in.

Every now and then, just take it in. And fucking enjoy this beautiful experience. If you were on your deathbed right now, if you were some 98-year-old guy with nothing left, looking back at you at this age, you'd be like, God damn, why didn't I have more fun?

I mean, that's why we started this. That's why we did this. That's why we set up podcasts. That's why we did stand-up. It's because we wanted a life that was fun.

I'm like, fuck, go to bed, because it was pretty late. But I don't want to do that. You know what I want to do? I want to go watch car videos on YouTube. I want to watch professional pool matches.

I don't want to sit there and fucking fester over material. But I know I have to do it. The only way it feels really good when it kills is if it sucks for a long time in front of a computer. It doesn't always suck. It sucks for a few minutes until you get flowing, and then you're into the process of it, and then it's stimulating.

But there's that weird resistance, that thing from the War of Art that Pressfield talks about. There's a part of us that resists.

Have you read War of Art?

A. studio, and I would give it to comedians. I'm like, just read this. It's a really easy read. It's a short book, and it'll show you what's – There's a thing that fucks with people.

Whatever this resistance is, there's something about the human psyche that puts off doing things that you know you're supposed to do. And resistance to writing is particularly aggressive, for whatever reason. And Pressfield talks about it like – And he essentially gives you tools. And he says you're going to be a professional, and you're going to think of yourself as a professional. And as a professional, we go to work.

And when we go to work, we sit in front of the computer. We summon the muse, and he believes in the muse. He doesn't believe in it just as like, just pretend it's a muse, and that way you can be creative. He's like, no, if you treat it like it's real, it is real. The muse is a real thing.

If you just show up every day at a certain time and put in the time, ideas will come to you. They're not going to come every day. It's not going to be like picking strawberries in God's open field. No, it's going to be this weird thing. But if you do it enough, if you treat it like it is a muse, it will perform as a muse does.

And if you do the work, you will reap these rewards. And it gives you like, this sort of like, very simple, well-outlined sort of guide to how to do that.

I know I've got two hours. And within five minutes, it starts flowing. Yeah.

I think it's Hemingway. Is that Hemingway's quote?

It's so important to play. It's so important to play. So if you just, I find it really helpful to go for a walk, maybe grab a coffee, don't listen to music, don't listen to anything, and just walk. And things that have happened in your day, you'll just notice certain things. Like a couple of days ago, I was in the gym with Gold's Gym, and RFK Jr.

came in with like five dudes in jeans, a polo shirt, and came in, and then he was on the bench, I was on the bench, and he obliterated me, and then just left again. And I was like, that's so funny. There's something there that a guy who's in his mid-70s comes in, dominates me, leaves.

. Is he mid-70s?

. How old is he? He's 70..

Why are you wearing jeans? Do you know? they make better stuff for working out? If you wear jeans, to me, that tells me you work out kind of. There's no way you're sweating in jeans.

There's no way you're running five miles on the treadmill in jeans. You're just not going to do that. So you're only getting to a certain level of workout if you're wearing jeans, period.

Cardio should be like vitamins. You need it like you need everything else. You need protein. You need fats. You need vitamins.

You need cardio. Cardio is important. Your system should be stressed. Your system should be able to perform work for long periods of time. If it can't, it's a bad system.

And if you just want a system that looks good at the beach, that's dumb. That's dumb. That's a stupid thing. Like, you can have both things. You could have a system that looks good at the beach, but also have a system that you can run.

You could do stuff. You could put in like, if you have to hike somewhere, you can make it there. Some people won't make it. That's one thing to understand. You're trying to get over a mountain.

Not everybody is going to make it. There's a lot of us that are out there in society listening to this right now that can't go over a hill, a really big hill. That's crazy. That's crazy. So if you go to the gym and you just do like bench press, and you just do like fucking trap, pull downs and shit, and you got a big upper body, and then you can't go over a hill, and you could die.

Like something is chasing you. You can't get away. Like that's dumb. That's really stupid, when you could have just had both.

Yeah. And if you're not doing that, then I mean maybe he does jeans for others. Maybe he does no jeans for others. Maybe he swims. Maybe he gets cardio in in another way, and that's just what he likes to do.

He's a freak, but everything he does in, like work boots and work pants and work shirts. He wanted me to – he's not a former special force. Why do they keep saying that? I don't know. Okay, what is he?

I don't know. He texted me and said – Oh, you got his phone number? No, he DM'd me. So that was just one of those wild internet rumors? He said thanks for all the recent messages.

What is his background?

I don't know. He just said he's not that – So, whatever this guy's background, he's a fucking freak. I mean he's like the weirdestly – might be one of the strongest humans alive, and look, everything he does is this stuff. Everything he does is like with work clothes on.

Like. look at the size of that. He put up his diet one time, and it had something insane like 400 grams of protein for the day or something.

Ten minutes in, I was dead.

If you have a weak lower back, that one could be really tricky.

Yeah. If you're a 100-pound person, it's easier to hold your leg up. It's like it weighs less. It does. It's less gravity.

It doesn't require as much. It's easier to move around. You're not getting pulled down by the earth as much.

I was like, wow, my feet are getting tired. This is kind of crazy. I didn't anticipate that. I thought you just stood, and you're good. But when you're standing a lot on one leg, you realize, oh, this is kind of weak.

It's just sort of supported by the other side, and both of them are doing a half-assed job. But in yoga, you have to use one foot. That little sucker really has to work.

I'm doing this. I'm doing that. You get to the, you know, you get to the, but this didn't happen. You get to the, what's it called, the peck deck or whatever it is, and then you grab that thing, and you try and slide it off where the weights are. Yeah.

And then you're struggling to do it, and you're like, yeah, I'll just do this way.

That's why I was thinking like a mandated workout for everybody in the morning. Even if you can't run, do something else. If we really did do that, it would humble people, and being a little bit more humble by especially something that you decided to do. It's voluntary. It's good for you.

It's good for your brain to know that you can do that.

Was that WALL-E? Then they're constantly sucking on a milkshake or whatever, just endless sugar and calories.

And there's a lot of people that are just locked into their computers, and they're just on their computer all the time. It's super, super common. If something came along that allowed, like with these exponential increases in technology, like what you're seeing with these AI programs now, which are really stunning visuals that they can create in seconds, in minutes. They can have like a short film. It's crazy what they can do now.

If they can do that with a physical moving object, like if they can get a real humanoid object that has perfect features and is your girlfriend and is warm and sweet and gives you everything you want from a human.

And that's what they would do. They would just live with their robots, and no one would have like real relations anymore. It would go away so quick. It would be sweet. Then they start having robot babies.

So you don't have to, like. for women that want kids, like you, just have a robot baby. Since you can't have a regular baby, they'll just give you this baby. This baby will stay a baby forever.

Because the male desire to do things, to create, to build, to innovate, to research, to stand up for what you believe in, to fight, all of that is tied in to wanting to raise your status, to be with a woman.

Because they don't have that same desire. They want to actually emotionally connect to someone. I don't know if it's a true quote, but I remember reading it and thinking it was, and I'm not sure if it is now. George Harrison, or someone who attributed it to George Harrison, said, all I need from a woman is to be attracted to her. Everything else I can get from a man.

There's people that think that way. Right? So if you're a guy and you think that way, and then all of a sudden you have your robot fuck doll, and you're just hanging with your buddies. But women don't think that way. Women want to be emotionally, generally.

I like to generalize. It's good. It's fun.

It's not a real person with real struggles that can really provide. That's just like some robot dick that plows them when they come home from the club, which maybe that's great. Maybe that's fine. But I have a feeling it won't be. I have a feeling that the ingrained human reward systems in us that were designed to ensure that we replicate, those are all going to get fucked up by robot fuck dolls.

They're going to get wrecked.

It's very difficult. People can do it. People manage it. People find other ways. But it's such a basic building block of our evolutionary history that it's going to be very hard to live without those things being in place, without those things being available.

And no matter how nice and pretty and compliant your AI girlfriend is, it ain't the real thing.

And if that is taken away, then all you've got is something that is going to appeal to male-based instincts, which is the fuck, to have sex. All right, I've done that. I've satisfied that biological urge. You know what? Let's go for another dopamine hit.

Let's go for a dopamine hit here. Let's go, smoke some weed. And then let's go and play video games or whatever time in the morning. Yeah. Because why am I going to sacrifice anything when everything can be about my pleasure, my dopamine?

Or diamonds that are artificially made. Real diamonds that are made in a lab. They don't want them. They want them ones that the slaves have to dig out of the ground. It's a weird thing.

So a woman—I don't think—again, generalizing. I don't think most women are going to have any desire to be a robot man. I think they want an actual one.

They're real.

And I think actually quite a lot of women would say that if they were blunt and honest about what they want.

Wow. I had no idea. How is that possible? How do you like that? What's going on in your fucking head?

We're actually reading women's minds. You're going to know who is pretending to not be interested in you but is very interested in you. People aren't going to be able to be coy anymore. It's going to be very weird.

All thoughts are going to be out there. I think it's a matter of time. And I don't think it's that long. I think within a decade we're going to have some ability. Because they're getting so close to it.

There was a Japanese study where they got some sort of visual evidence of dreams. It's not like you can see the dream, but they're getting close. They're zeroing in on particular images that people were experiencing while they were dreaming. And they think they can decipher those. What is that technology?

See, if you can find. Go ahead. Was it functional magnetic resonance imagery? Is that what it was? When I type it in, the story comes up from almost 12 years ago.

I guess they started doing it. That's what I said. There was some sort of recent article about it. I thought so, too. I think there's been some breakthrough.

The point is they're going to get it. They got that guy wearing the first Neuralink patient who's wearing Neuralink in his head now. And he's operating a computer for the first time, paralyzed. And he's playing video games. He's talking to people.

It's wild. So we know that's already been done. MRI scans reveal what we see in dreams. Japanese researchers unveil visuals with 60% accuracy using innovative MRI scans in pivotal Kyoto studies, showcasing a breakthrough in sleep science. 60% accuracy is bananas.

So this is like Morse code.

It's not having a FaceTime chat. FaceTime chat's coming. Okay, Morse code. We had to do that. first.

Got through the smoke signals out there, fucking making circles in the desert. And now, instead of smoke signals, we have impossible technology that anybody 100 years ago would have thought of as complete magic. Well, this is going to make that look like a fucking walk in the park with your friends. It's going to make it look – it's going to make it seem so mundane. What that shit is going to do is unite all brains.

All brains united in the weirdest sort of hive mind situation that anybody could ever – you couldn't imagine what that would be like. Just like we couldn't imagine in the 1700s what it's like to just get on Twitter and read news about Beirut. How could you know? How could you instantaneously get news about another part of the world that you're nowhere near? Well, because the world's changed.

The whole thing's changed. It's going to be everybody's brain connected.

And you wake up and you say to the scientist, so what did I dream about? And they're like, turns out, you're gay, mate.

Sorry. They want to go get a young guy. And that's the difference between an old man and woman couple. They're just hanging out together versus an old guy who no one wants to fuck him anymore. And he has to try to pay young guys to be with him.

And then it gets ugly and sad.

I'm like, where do you want to go? I don't mind. I'd never have that conversation with my wife. It's like a half-hour affair of working it out, making sure it's the right place and the right time, and all of it.

Like, what? You could hire someone to carry your baby? What?

It didn't have, like, fights with its sister where they made up. It didn't have, like, someone who was mean to them at school, that became their best friend. It didn't have all that stuff. None of that stuff. So what do you have?

Is that a demon? Like, what is that? What is that? What is this new life form that's smarter than you, that has no real emotions, because it has no real stake in the game, because it was created with a fucking 3D printer? What is that, that thing?

you're sticking your dick into, sir? What is that? You're literally fucking a demon. I mean, it's the thing that's going to overcome us. And if it overcomes us, just by seducing us into putting our seed inside of it instead of women, because you can't be bothered, because then you can't play Call of Duty all day.

Like, that, for a lot of young guys who, especially if they don't have status, so it's very difficult for them to get a woman that they're attracted to. They don't have money. They're not attractive. Whatever. Fill in the blank.

If they can just have the literal hottest woman that's ever lived and they can have sex with her, and it costs, like, what? 25 grand. And you can mortgage it. You know?

You can figure out a way to get the money. They'll finance it.

And I remember when I was a teenager, it was the golden age for that kind of stuff. And now we seem to have these giant breakthroughs coming. And we don't seem to have enough authors and artists thinking about some of the dilemmas involved and really kind of trying to think that through through a story lens about what the impact might be. And that's interesting to me, because I think we just genuinely have no fucking idea what's coming.

I was like, wow, 1999, they're in space. Like, everything was like super futuristic, like crazy, like Star Wars-like in 1999.. Like, that's what they thought. Nobody figured. Everybody thought flying cars.

Everybody thought flying cars. No, flying cars.

And you close it like a helicopter. And you have drone, you know, like the same kind of propellers that drones have. So you just operate it like a drone. But there's a couple other ones. But there's nothing that's like commercially viable, where they're going to be able to sell them as many as they sell Teslas.

You know, it's not there yet. But it's probably not going to get there. When the AI hits, everything stops. When it goes live, when it becomes sentient, it's literal Skynet. You're going to have an organic thing that's made out of electronics.

It's going to be a life form. And we're going to give birth to this stupid fucking thing.

And I think everything's going to be doomed. I think we're going to have a government that's run by AI because it's going to be the most efficient. And then who controls the AI? Oh, the most equitable, ethical people. It could be real weird.

It could be real weird because it's going to be so much smarter than all the human beings combined. And you're going to be able to use it to manipulate people. And if people are still allowed to vote, then you could use AI to sort of just manipulate them perfectly. They'll figure out, like, what is the issue that keeps you from voting for Biden over Trump? What is the issue that keeps you from voting independent for RFK Jr.?

Let's see what it is. And let's monkey with the data. And let's get you information that stimulates that part of your brain, just enough for all those fence-sitters to go to the other side. And then who knows what's going on? Who knows who's running anything?

AI video is so goddamn good. they could take a photo of you and have you say anything. So who knows what Putin's saying? And who knows what Zelensky's saying? And who knows what anybody's saying anywhere in five years?

But I'm extrapolating. I'm looking at where things are going, and I'm going, this is going to happen so fast, and it's going to be so weird. It's not going to just stop at chat GPT-5.. It's not going to just stop at these robots that will clean your kitchen. It's not going to stop it, though.

It's going to keep going, and it's going to go quick, real quick, big leaps, big leaps, real quick, where the world is alien, real quick.

God damn.

Allowing people to talk?

Like, what is he? I have not yet seen one thing. He's not perfect. He doesn't make all the same moves that…. I'm guessing it has to do with this.

Accuses Australia of censorship after court bans violent video. So there's a video of a bishop being stabbed at a church. Oh, I saw that video. So Australia is trying to ban that video.

There's something that someone wants to see. The world should know that this can happen. Here's the video. Somebody put it up. It doesn't violate any of our laws.

Let's keep it up there. And they're saying he should be locked in a cage for that.

Like I definitely have noticed an increase in, like, anti-Semitic messages that people send me since Elon took over. I'm happy with that. I'm very comfortable with that, because the rest of….

That means that some people are going to say dumb shit. Yes. And I would much rather that than some well-meaning bureaucrat deciding what should and shouldn't be allowed to be said in the public square. So if that means there's more hate, I don't give a shit. I think it's worth it.

And that's the only way it really works. It doesn't work by government mandate, especially when we've seen, particularly with our government, with the Twitter files, how there have been people that work within the government, that contacted Twitter and tried to get factual information taken down and trying to get the accounts suppressed of people that were experts in the field that had a differing opinion other than what was being promoted. That's crazy. You can't have that. That can't be a thing, because that's not good for the government.

It's not good for us. It's not good for anybody to allow that kind of shit. It's un-American. You should be ashamed that you want to do that. It's unpatriotic.

You shouldn't be allowed to do it just because you're in a sneaky, secret, squirrel position where you can contact Twitter through some government agent and then they feel pressured and then they give in to something that you're doing. that's super unethical. That's un-American.

And as soon as you start using that in an unethical way like that, like censoring people, especially censoring factual information from experts, you're un-American. That's un-American. It's unpatriotic. In fact, it's one of the grossest things you could do in a place that values free speech. And we've seen so tangibly what's come out of this country, like culturally.

The music, the comedy, the literature, all the crazy shit, the movies that have come from this experiment in self-government. And the only way it works is if you let people work it out. You got to let people talk. And you're going to get people that are wrong and you're going to get people that are racist. You're going to get people that are sexist.

You're going to get people that are homophobic. You're going to get all that. But you're also going to get people that battle those people. You're going to get people that have better arguments than those people. You get people that sort of start posting links and people start figuring things out for themselves.

And that's the only way this works. It's the only way. You can't let these people that are elected officials decide what you can and can't consume. Because I don't know you. I know the you that ran for mayor.

I don't know you. You might be a piece of shit. You might be a sociopath. You might be a smiling con artist that tricked a bunch of people, because nobody wants to run and everybody who does run sucks. It's like you're literally like boxing with five-year-olds.

Like, oh, you're the champ. Yay. No one's doing it. No one's doing it. Like no real quality.

human beings are out there running for office in Los Angeles. They're not running for – I mean there was that Rick Caruso guy. They didn't give him a chance. He could have done something. That's a rare thing when you have a very wealthy person who wants to try to save a city.

But, of course, he's like a Republican. Right? So they're like, get out of here. Is he running Republican or a Democrat? What was he running as?

You can't even win as a Republican in California. Like they're so indoctrinated.

He's one of us. He's a liberal. He's running as a Republican. That's the only way he can win.

a couple of years ago, a guy called Jerry Sadowitz, who's a super funny, super offensive comic. Like none of his stuff is online because it's too offensive. But you go and see him. He's absolutely incredible. So they pulled his show from the Edinburgh Festival.

And we were like, this is a problem. He's like, no, no, there's no problem. Now you literally have the police potentially arresting comedians. Maybe this is when they start waking up.

Like. I think RFK is a great person. Yeah. I would vote for him. I think Tulsi Gabbard is a great person.

Yeah. I would vote for her. There's people that I think are running for office and they're legitimately trying to do well for the world. They're trying to make a better place. They think they have ideas that would sort out some of the problems that we have.

And they're one of us. That's real. But then there's these fucking people. The rest of them. They're just these partisan fucking robots.

And they just get connected to the system. And they know which wheels to grease. And they all get connected together. And they support each other. And it's just.

That's their argument. Like I did.

You should have to stand publicly and defend that against a champion of free speech. Like a really brilliant champion. Like if Hitchens was alive. Yeah. Could you imagine what that would have looked like?

Christopher Hitchens versus whoever the fuck thinks they can lock people up for saying cunt. Whatever. the words that you're going to choose that are hate speech now. And they're going to keep moving. They'll run out of words.

They're going to push new words. They're going to push new descriptions that are problematic.

I mean, you know, one of them. And then he was in this rough place in a bar in Glasgow. People were cut in front of him. And then one bloke there, who was this rough-ass Glaswegian, looked at the barman and went, hey, barman, get this poor cunt a drink. And it was the love in his eyes.

And it was just pure affection. You know, like, this guy's been fucked over. Get him a drink.

For some reason it didn't make it over there.

And it's like, mate, it's Scotland. It's 96 percent white. What do you expect?

And you don't think that it's so fucking transparent.

It matters in every single aspect of what we do. It's the reason for our scientific progress. It's the reason for our technological progress. It's the reason, as you say, for the cultural creativity that we have here that they don't have in other places. It's the bedrock of our civilization.

And you've got well-intentioned, quote, unquote, people running around trying to tear it down. I had this experience when I last, no, not last, on the penultimate time. I did Question Time, which is like a big discussion show in the UK on TV. And there's like five people from different perspectives, different angles. And before they start, they do one question that they don't broadcast.

It's like a warm-up. Right? And the question at the time was Donald Trump had just been unbanned from Facebook. And they were like, well, should that have happened? And I, you know, made the controversial point that the former president of the most powerful country in the world should be allowed to say something in public.

Didn't go down well. And then they….

They've completely lost the understanding that there is a trade-off between freedom and safety. And when you go for more freedom, yes, it means there's less safety from people's hurty words or whatever. But you get more freedom and that's actually worth it. It's actually important.

Period. It's always how it's been. And to think that it's going to be different now because we're better and we're more civilized. Well, we can trust our leaders now. No, no, it's a human thing.

It's a reason why there's term limits. So you can only get corrupted so much over eight years. And hopefully someone could say, this guy sucks. Let's try a whole new crew of people. See how we run this thing.

. Because during the COVID regulations, you couldn't move beyond a certain... Oh, yeah, a barrier. Yeah, a certain... There was a barrier.

And this guy was making money because he was going to KFC, buying it, and then basically.

. And then coming back and being like KFC, but for drug dealers, but for KFC. And then he was stopped, searched by the police and arrested. And then they listed all of these things in his boot and like two tubs of coleslaw, one Coke bottle. And you go, this is...

These dudes had an illegal KFC visit.

Look at his haul. See, he was smuggling KFC. There's no way he's eating all that chicken by himself. That's a lot of chicken.

And then they found out $100,000 in cash on them. Oh, that's a lot of money, guys. What are you doing? Selling KFC. That's what they do.

Look, man, if you're fucking really locked down and you got some cash, bro, I'll give you $1,000 to go. get me a bucket of chicken. Like, really? Yeah, $1,000..

We're going to bank episodes now. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank, bank.

And he was like, no, no, you've got to take this shit seriously. Yeah. And he was right.

But my friend, his brother, worked on the whole COVID force in Los Angeles. And they were closing outside dining because there was a spike in cases. And he goes, but there's no evidence that outside dining, you're going to kill these businesses. She goes, it's about the optics. So about the optics, to make a decision that kills businesses.

Like these. people were barely hanging on. They were only able to serve people outside. I mean, who knows how many bartenders and waitresses were just fucked. Restaurant owners fucked.

Everybody got fucked. And it was about the optics. That's just dumb people. That person should not have that position of power. There's no fucking way.

That person to make that kind of a decision, should have to debate a champion of the restaurant industry. Should have to debate. a champion of health. Should have to debate a champion who understands. how is this stuff being transmitted.

Is it not being transmitted at all outside? Is that real true? What is the safety threshold of outside dining? And have someone fucking talk about it. You can't just wave a magic wand and decide that everybody has to go home.

That's crazy. And so many people lost decades of their lives. Decades of their lives work.

And I'm like, well, that's violent. Then I need to be protected, because we need to be protected from physical violence. And we've just allowed this idea to propagate.

Most of the time. Like 8 out of 10.. That's weird.

But lots of people defended him on the basis that he was being attacked personally, even though people were simply disagreeing with a particular thing that he said.

I was like, this one's going to get crazy.

He's a very nice guy. I've got to hang out with him a couple of times. I hung out with him at the UFC. I had dinner with him with Lex. And then I brought him on stage with Kill.

Tony. Didn't even know he was going to go on there. And went out and handled it amazingly. He's a good guy. He's also bitterly embattled and has been for a long time.

And I think that can make you more aggressive or shittier about certain things. And in that regard, he's handled himself pretty well. He's pretty smart about it. He doesn't use a computer. He doesn't watch television.

He just has a phone. He does everything, schedules everything through his phone. And that's it. And he's managed to sort of filter himself out. But he's got a very religious bend to a lot of the things that he believes.

And he's a smart guy. You're allowed to have that. But he believes God created people. And he has this belief that he operates from.

And that makes…. The universe is so crazy. The idea of God is not that crazy to me. It's just not. I don't think it's any more crazy than anything.

I think maybe the universe is God. Maybe that's what's going on. Maybe it's just like constant creative force that's so immense you can't even possibly calculate it. And that's God. And he's got some ideas about spiritual things that are interesting.

Like about good and evil, and these UAPs. The UAPs being spiritual things. But it seems like, with all respect, I feel like that's what he wants to think. Do you know that he wants to think that they've always been here and they're spiritual things? And he might be right.

But it is also possible that there's a life form that's so advanced that it could avoid detection anytime it wants. And then slowly trickles out little bits of information to us. Whether it's a crashed vehicle or letting a vehicle be seen, or hovering over Phoenix. Whatever it wants to do, and then fades away again. And then, every decade or so, as human beings evolve, it introduces more and more to the landscape.

Which, if you kind of looked at it on a graph, seems to be the case. And oddly seems to be the case that it's primarily happening in the United States. If you look at the difference between the UFO sightings around the world and the UFO sightings in the United States. We're locked in.

Look at all the shit in the streets. Look at all the needles. These people are crazy. I think there's probably both things going on. I think there's probably some sort of extra-dimensional possibility that I think occurs during psychedelic drugs.

And during certain states of altered consciousness. That I have a feeling you're tuning into something that's not always available. But probably is always there. And then there's probably a physical element of things coming here from somewhere else. Because we do that.

It just seems so duh. Allegedly, we went to the moon. But we definitely sent rovers to Mars. We definitely sent satellites into space to take incredible imagery of Jupiter. We definitely do all that.

Why would we not think that another species would do that? Especially if they get to some position where they're using some unique, novel form of propulsion that manipulates gravity. And they don't even have to worry about G-forces. They just appear places. Which seems to be what they think these things are doing.

Have you heard of that? There's a story about this Chinese scientist that was working on anti-gravity. And she came from China to the United States to work on anti-gravity. And she was working on some anti-gravity propulsion system. And then vanished.

Like probably went back to China.