Rep. Clay Higgins

insurrection that shocked this nation to its core more profoundly than anything since Pearl

Harbor plus the Civil War.

And it has taken a while, honestly, even for people who aren't on the side of the professional

liars to realize there's something amiss about what happened that day, not just the response,

the largest law enforcement mobilization in the history of the United States, that was

obviously disproportionate because it wasn't the worst riot that year, not even close.

But the day itself, there was something about January 6th that didn't feel right.

And hovering over that day has remained the question, to what extent was it a setup?

And we still don't really know.

But what's interesting is how few people have asked that entirely legitimate question.

One of the very few, really one of the only in the United States Congress, is a member

called Clay Higgins from Louisiana.

And in case you haven't seen this clip, it's worth rewatching.

This is from 2022 at a Homeland Security Committee hearing where he asked it just directly of

the FBI director.

Watch.

on January 6th of 2021?

Well, Congressman, as I'm sure you can appreciate, I have to be very careful about what I can

May I finish?

About when we do and do not and where we have and have not used confidential human sources.

But to the extent that there's a suggestion, for example, that the FBI's confidential human

sources or FBI employees in some way instigated or orchestrated January 6th, that's categorically

false.

Did you have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on

January the 6th prior to the doors being opened?

Again, I had to be very careful.

It should be a no.

Can you not tell the American people no?

We did not have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside

the Capitol on January the 6th.

You should not read anything into my decision not to share information.

What a sleazy, repulsive, little authoritarian liar Chris Wray is.

That's obvious when you watch that tape.

The sad part is so few tapes like that exist because so few have confronted him directly

and asked questions to which the entire country has a right to know the answer, like that

one.

Clay Higgins did that.

Congressman from Louisiana, Louisiana Lafayette, joins us in studio.

Congressman, thanks so much for coming on.

and you asked it as I think is appropriate without any embarrassment at all on behalf

of your constituents and the rest of the country.

Are you any closer to the answer now?

have.

Much of the evidence that we have compiled from investigative effort over the course

of the last couple of years, some offices like my own sort of operating in silos of

investigative endeavor, have now been able to come together now that we have a Republican

majority and we have access to the staffs of the appropriate investigative committees.

So I sit on the oversight committee, and we Republicans run that committee now, and therefore

we control the staff.

So when you can magnify the efforts that individual members of Congress have pushed within our

own offices, when you can magnify those efforts by the skill and the numbers of staff from

the committees, you get a lot of evidence reviewed professionally and aligned and assembled

into essentially a case file.

And in this case, this is a big file because the involvement of certain actors, you could

say deep state actors within the federal government, to set the stage for what happened in J45

and six and to entrap thousands of Americans from across the country and lure them into

this set stage on J45 and six, the people that were involved in that is quite a large

web. So, yes, sir, we do have a great deal of evidence compiled and we are gradually

professionally rolling that evidence out.

elements within the federal government, I assume law enforcement, intel, and military,

and I'm using your words, lured Americans to Washington into what you call the trap.

on the evidence. That's what you're saying.

always been a staunch defender of the thin blue line. And I would proudly count the FBI

amongst that number. It's like brothers to me. So to find that level of conspiratorial

corruption at the highest levels of the FBI has been very troubling to me as a man, as

a cop. And yet, you follow the evidence wherever it leads. And this is what investigators do.

So when I asked Christopher Wray that question, for instance, I already knew the answer. I

knew that the FBI was deeply involved. I'd seen evidence, even at that time, that the

FBI had embedded themselves into various groups online across the country of Americans who

were essentially voicing their concerns and airing their grievances with each other about

COVID oppression. And those Americans were targeted by the FBI, almost universally,

Republicans and largely Trump supporters. But the FBI worked undercover to infiltrate those

conversations and become a significant part of those individual Americans' communications.

And when you dig into the evidence that we've had revealed through some criminal cases that

I've followed and work with the families of J6 political detainees and Americans that have

been persecuted for their involvement in the Capitol that day, some of that evidence is

shockingly reveals that the FBI agents that were operating undercover within the online groups

across the country were the first ones to plant the seeds of suggestions of a more radical

occupation of the Capitol. And they were sort of testing the waters of who amongst that group

would begin acknowledging that, you know, maybe we should do that. Maybe we should plan for an

occupation like that. But if you look at the origins of those conversations, they were started

by the FBI undercover guy that was operating inside the group. And then months later, on

January 4th, 5th and 6th, many of those Americans met for the first time in person when they

gathered for the massive rally where American patriots assembled to object to everything that

had happened during 2020, the COVID oppression and the stunning results of what we believe was a

compromise election cycle in November 2020. So Americans gathered at their own Capitol to

appropriately air grievances and protests at their Capitol, but embedded amongst their number was an

FBI asset that had been working from within their group online for many months. So this was the

level of manipulative effort that the FBI invested into the American citizenry and our assembly

online to exercise our rights under the First Amendment to talk to each other about whatever we

want to talk about, including the insidious oppressions of COVID that we were suffering across the

country. So our concerns about where the election was going, the whole mail-in ballot thing, we can see

the stage was being set for a compromise election cycle, possibly. And to our horror, that's what

happened. So FBI had fingerprints on this thing for many months prior to J4, 5, and 6.

and that spurred your questions to Chris Wray, that there were FBI assets dressed as Trump

supporters within the Capitol. So that is proof of entrapment because, of course, the federal

government could have prevented entry into the Capitol building. There aren't that many doors.

You work there, you know. But they allowed people in on purpose to entrap them. That's what that

that the government employed to sort of complete the entrapment of Americans that they had infiltrated

and then prodded and provoked online with those original seeds planted of actions like what type

of gear to wear and just to languish that incited behavior that could go the wrong way. You know,

pushing actions of legal and legitimate peaceful protests to an edge where those Americans would

likely not have gone had they not been encouraged by the FBI plant amongst their number that they

didn't know was there. So by the time it was actually J6 and you had masses of Americans

assembled outside the Capitol, like 99.9%, 100% peaceful, on the inside, you had FBI assets

dressed as Trump supporters that knew their way around the Capitol. Before the doors even opened?

Before the doors open, how are you going to get around the Capitol? You've been there many times.

You need a guide to get from whatever door you go in.

most of which had never been to the Capitol, there's no way they can come in some random

door that gets opened and then get their way directly to the statuary or the House chamber

or the Senate chamber. It's just not possible. So the FBI assets that were dressed as Trump

supporters that were inside the Capitol were there, I believe, and evidence indicates that

they were there to specifically wave in the Trump supporters that had gathered outside the Capitol,

and the doors opened and they were allowed in. And on the inside were,

oh, there's some more Trump supporters, but really those were FBI assets, law enforcement assets

that knew their way around the Capitol. And they waved those guys in, said, come on, follow us.

And they're the ones that led them on the path directly. Man, how do you think a guy's never

been to the Capitol, got to come into the Capitol all amped up on emotion and make his way straight

to Nancy Pelosi's office? Come on. It's like I couldn't get it. It's no way. I've been there for

seven years. You'd come in some random door at the Capitol and make my way to Nancy Pelosi.

When you go on a tour, you bring your family to DC, you go through the Capitol,

you have to have a guide. And on January 6th, the guides were FBI assets,

law enforcement assets. And they were dressed as Trump supporters. They were positioned inside

the Capitol prior to the doors being opened so that the Americans that had assembled outside

the Capitol, once allowed in, could be brought directly to the areas where the FBI and the DOJ

and the deep state actors knew would be the most sort of condemning criminal action of Americans

being inside the Capitol protesting without permit and things. They knew they were setting the stage

that planned this. But I believe the faction of establishment liberals within the FBI and the

DOJ use their massive powers of surveillance and investigative

assets that they have across the country, confidential informants, registered informants,

non-registered informants, voluntary informants. It's a complex web of FBI assets across the

country that can be activated. So if you have authority at some of the highest levels in the

FBI, it doesn't take much. The faction within the FBI and within our intelligence services that

would coordinate with the most extreme liberal factions within a Democrat party that were

desperate to keep Trump out of office and worked within the theater of operations, shall we say,

that had been set by the COVID alleged medical emergencies nationwide and millions and millions

of mail-in ballots. There's no daylight between the compromised election cycle of November 2020

and ultimately what happened on J6. So you ask, who planned this? This would be

the combination of several of the most extreme liberal, anti-Trump, anti-America First

factions that were in positions of authority within our federal law enforcement

organizations and the Democrat party across the country.

outside, what's the scale of this? You're talking like 10, 20?

evaluation of the numbers from putting together eyewitnesses and videos and

and affidavit statement and whistleblower statements and court records that have been

revealed through individual criminal cases where J6 defendants have been prosecuted and

smart attorneys have forced admissions by the DOJ and the FBI. But those

admissions have been sealed within the parameter of that criminal case by protective order

by the judge. So I can't share them, but I've seen them. So real hard objective and conservative

estimates would put the number of FBI assets in the crowd outside and working inside at

well over 200.

Yeah.

Before you came to Congress in the military as well? That's an extraordinary number. Is it?

you would need that number.

St. John's, the Episcopal Church across from the White House in Lafayette Square was set ablaze

and all those Secret Service agents were injured. Were there 200 FBI

assets in the crowd among Antifa then?

J6 was the final act prior to arrest and prosecution of Americans that were identified as

Trump supporters. I mean, the objective was to destroy the entire mega movement,

to forever stain the patriotic fervor that was associated with the America First

mega movement that had won in 2016, and we believe won again in 2020. And the establishment

on both sides of both major parties were determined to smash that out of existence,

not just by defeating Trump, but by destroying the reputations of the movement itself,

by creating this narrative that was totally false, but was heavily pushed that mega Republicans,

America First Republicans are somehow a danger to our republic and a domestic terror threat.

There's a whole other story about what the FBI has done to tagging Americans as suspected

domestic terrorists and following us as we travel across the country. But the bottom line is that

200, I believe is a conservative number. First of all, I think there's many more. But a number that

I'm comfortable going on record with is that we believe that there were easily 200 FBI undercover

assets operating in the crowd, outside the Capitol, embedded into groups that entered the Capitol or

provoked entry of the Capitol, and working with FBI assets that would have included

Metro Police and Capitol Police that were dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol,

because those were the guys that knew their way around the Capitol. So given the scope of the

operation and the number of doors where entry was allowed or even encouraged, and the number of

people that were actually outside the Capitol and that entered, we believe 200 is a conservative

about this. It's clearly true. Did you come across any evidence that the DOD, the military,

either Defense Intelligence Agency or National Guard or any part of the U.S. military played

And I have observed circumstantial evidence that has been presented to me that I have reviewed.

But to me, it does not rise to the level that I would call actionable from an investigative

perspective. So there was some suspicion. But in law enforcement, the thresholds you're looking

across is reasonable suspicion that would prompt a criminal investigation. And then the next

threshold is probable cause, which you need for arrest. And of course, in our system, finally,

the last threshold is conviction and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. So

I did review evidence, Tucker, regarding some suspicions of military involvement in some way.

But I have reviewed some of that evidence that I've been able to get my hands on.

And I do not think that the military was involved, not at the level, most certainly

not at the level of the FBI and over the course of all of 2020. And then on J4, 5, and 6,

the FBI working in coordination with other law enforcement assets that they roped into the

operation from Metro PD, from D.C. And the Capitol Police was sort of tricked

into participating with what the FBI had been staging for 10 months.

the oversight of the elected president and then under the oversight of the elected Congress.

Their elected people get to make the decisions. You have a Republican president. You now have

a Republican Congress. And neither one can get a straight answer from the FBI.

No one has any control of the FBI. You're describing a government within a government.

a question becomes, a reasonable man would ask when we face a crisis like this,

who investigates the investigators, right? And the answer in America is Congress. So we have

the responsibility to investigate through the appropriate committees, which we're certainly

doing that now that we have a Republican majority in control of the committees.

But we don't have the power to arrest. We can give criminal referrals

based upon our investigative efforts, but we have to have a DOJ that's receptive to the

criminal referrals. So we've hit quite a brick wall, have we not? Constitutionally,

we have the responsibility to investigate objectively. And anyone that knows me,

knows that's exactly what I'm pursuing. I'm not trying to create a crime to fit a narrative to

blame on the FBI. I'm following the evidence. And to my horror, it implicates our FBI at the

highest level and a conspiracy within our government at the highest level to set the stage

for a compromised election cycle in 2020. And then the actions that took place

on J45 and J6. And then the criminal investigation, arrest, and prosecution

of Americans that they were able to entrap and document with the thousands of cameras

that were operating that day and use that evidence that they knew they were setting up

to investigate, arrest, and prosecute the Americans that they had entrapped.

So Congress can investigate these things, and we are, and we will reveal these horrific truths,

and we will have criminal referrals. But until you have a president running the executive branch,

that will clean house at the DOJ and FBI at the highest levels and put American patriots in place

that will act upon the criminal referrals that Congress provides, then none of those guys are

gonna get arrested because they're not gonna arrest themselves. And we don't have arrest

Republican conference, but I mean, they do control the House. Impeachment is a thing.

Chris Wray is still the FBI director. I watched Republicans, some of whom I know,

cheer the murder of Ashley Babbitt, who was an unarmed woman, less than 5'5", by Michael Byrd.

They were on Michael Byrd's side. And I have to say, for a lot of Republican voters, I count myself

among them, very clarifying. If you're cheering Ashley Babbitt's murder, shooting women now,

that's okay because she likes Trump. And the Republicans are like, yeah, I was happy. Like,

a lot of them thought that. What the hell?

think about it, to be the designated servant of your community that has the authority

to deny the freedom of a fellow American in the land of the free. Like, that's a heavy

responsibility. So the escalation of force must be appropriate in order to affect a lawful arrest.

And a bad shoot is the worst thing that an officer can possibly be involved in, in his career.

It's the thing of nightmares for good police officers. So to take what was, from a law

enforcement perspective, was clearly a bad shoot because there's some basic rules you just cannot

violate. You have to attempt to affect an arrest before you can go to deadly force.

There was no attempt to arrest Ashley Babbitt. There were officers on the other side of the

window she was climbing through. There were officers on the interior side of the window

she was climbing through. There was no indication that had been... This had been going on for an hour

and there was no reports on the radio anywhere else of gunfights. So there was no reason at that

point to expect that Ashley Babbitt or anybody else in the crowd was going to produce a firearm

and start firing on police officers. Why? Because it had not happened. So that's part of the

totality of circumstance that a police officer is responsible for knowing. We stay in constant

communication with our radios. We know what's going on. That officer that had pulled that trigger

would shot an American woman who was clearly in a physically compromised position,

climbing through the broken glass of a window. It's not like she just

stepped into the cage at MMA and she was ready to fight. She's climbing through a window draped in a

flag. There's police officers on the other side of the window. There's police officers on the interior

side of the window. So you have plenty enough officer presence if you want to arrest that woman

and by all means pull her through the window. They'll put flex cuffs on her and throw in the corner.

We'll get to you later, ma'am. We're kind of busy right now. That's what you do. You grab that woman

and pulled her through, flex cuffed her and threw her in the corner or handed her back to somebody

that could pull her back, you know, from that front line right there. So I understand that

very well. I understand officers have to make split-second decisions, but you never

you never make a decision to use lethal force unless it's absolutely called for and required.

If you're losing a fight, attempting to effect an arrest, then yeah, you know, if there's,

if the officer's life is in danger and it's all by himself, but there never should be a

circumstance where you just pull the trigger on a woman climbing through a window that's

clearly unarmed. There's no evidence of gunplay from the crowd that she's coming from. You got

officers on both sides of where she is. If you got to arrest her, then by all means, arrest her,

you know, to put flex cuffs on her and move on. You know, she can handle the next

person trying to come through the window, but you don't shoot her.

Yeah. Why do you think that was?

many otherwise reasonable American citizens where they, they, they hate Trump so much.

Like they're, they're so deeply embedded and they've sold their souls to the establishment

that when we had an America first president and, and he, and he'd like stopped the,

the military industrial complex forward momentum and, and he, and he began restoring power to

individual members of Congress and restoring individual rights and freedoms and sovereignty

of the state. And he took away the actions of the cartels and, and, and brought this,

this real common sense approach to the executive branch and was leading our country

in that beautiful direction. This was interfering with the business model of the establishment.

So many career politicians on both sides of the aisle, and I, you know,

I don't like those guys, man. I'm not one of them.

I, I serve my country in Congress, but I don't consider myself a politician by any means. I'm

a servant to we, the people. Some of these guys, man, they pop out of the womb to be,

to be politicians. They're groomed their whole life, you know, to be a career politician.

And those are the ones that had this instinctive cheer for something really bad happening to

Trump's support. You know, they, their true color showed in that moment and it was an ugly color.

where does this go from here? You have this corpus of information. It sounds like it's

definitive. When does the public see the detail and what's the process after that?

evidence from criminal investigations by nature is rather secretive, but there is a, a tremendous

compilation of data that I think should be made completely available to the public. And that's

the digital files from, from J4, five and six. This is where Speaker Mike Johnson can be a champion

for, that will be remembered for throughout history as the Speaker of the House that fully

released unredacted digital files from J4, five and six completely to the American people.

And within that data is full truth. And, and the American people,

there's the only staff large enough to, you know, frame by frame, go through 80,000 hours of

digital evidence. And nobody has a staff big enough to do that, but we can crowdsource it

to the American people. So you ask, when will this evidence be released?

I've been encouraging Speaker Johnson, as I did Speaker McCarthy to,

by God, man, release this data to the American people.

constitutionalist attorney himself. And he's a very measured and patient, faithful man.

So I have, I extend trust to, to Speaker Johnson when he says that it's his intention

to fully release the, the, call the J6 tapes, but really it's digital evidence. It's more than,

it's more than just video evidence. It's, it's a lot. It's, you know, radio transcripts,

the whole thing. I, I believe Speaker Johnson knows that this is a significant

duty that he must, he must perform for the American people. It's a moment in history where,

where, you know, I believe our Lord and Savior has placed him in that, in that position of service to

the country. And he has a responsibility to, to fully release that data. And then the American

people will see for themselves what some of us have already learned to our horror to be true.