Matt Barnes And Stephen Jackson, Celtics Up 3-0, Hank Recaps His Night With Tom Brady + US Open And Fyre Fest

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Ride through the Galaxy. I got something, and I want to add one thing to it real quick, uh. He also saw a down and out appears, possibly homeless person, Uh, wearing the handsome Hank Lockwood boxing shirt at a bus station in South Boston. So it's been, it's been quite a trip.

World, there's. There's really nothing to say other than than I. Just pure luck, right place, right time. I don't really know why. I know I don't deserve it.

Everything, really. But I didn't actually want an answer here, I didn't want an answer. I don't know why. This wasn't what I wanted, I just wanted to acknowledge it. I'm assuming Max took off his.

Headphones, Pft. He took them off his ears and then Hank kept going. And then gradually, he just slowly took them off his entire head and put them down on the desk next to him. He can't take it.

Hank is it's you forgot one thing. The Red Sox beat the Phillies last night too.

Oh yeah, you don't even know that they're winning again tonight, you fucking loser.

Well, he's actually not a loser.

You can call Hank a lot of things. You can call Hank a terrible golfer.

I know, I know, I know, I know, yay.

But he's not a loser, he's not a loser.

He's not a loser.

Hank is a winner and that's why I want to know his ways. I mean, whatever he's been doing in his life has worked out so tremendously well for him. That there's something that we can, all we can all learn from. Hank, Uh, Hank, I saw you also tweeted out this morning that, um, you are now as old as me and Big Cat were when we started. Part of my take, which made me feel extremely old, out of all the things that have made me feel old in my late thirties.

Take, Did we feel old to you? Oh yeah, I was 22, so I don't know how you guys feel, but I like, obviously I. I live a a peter pan basically lifestyle with his job. But I feel like time has just kind of stopped since we started the podcast. Like I, it's probably bad that I don't really like feel any different than I did when the podcast started, but I don't like I was 22 when the podcast started. I'm 31 now, but I feel like I think in the exact same way as I did back then. I'm just like a little bit better off in life.

I feel the same way. The other one PFT is. My son is about to turn five, uh, next week, so I've been.

A dad for more than half of this show, that's crazy, too crazy, that's all right, yeah.

One fucked me up as well. But yeah, Hank, being 31, the age that we started, um, it's just I, Yeah, I, I don't know. He's. He's still got his whole life in front of him to get the guy just whatever he, whatever. Even when Hank is down for a little bit, and he's been down before, I mean, he, he literally sucked. Nikki smokes cock on video last week. But it doesn't matter, because it always, just he'd, always comes back, he always bounces back. He's the stock that everyone should have bought 10 years ago.

It's like, I, I like the stock, I like, I like, I like the Honk, and I'm glad we invest in you, Hank. Uh, in the middle of the night last night, when you were on this heater and I was getting ready to go to sleep. And you pointed out that not only had all these great things happen, but also that the Red Sox beat the Phillies and you didn't even know about it. Um, I thought to myself, I should get out of bed and just fuck up all the slats in my bed frame because it might be the way that you're sleeping. I don't know.

Eat some spiders, yeah.

We're talking about the game.

It's a great point, yeah, it's, it's very good. And I mean, you're showing that you're not afraid to be a hands-on boss either. Because the Celtics, what four fifths of their starting lineup, were at one time 76ers, so you're showing them how to take the same or could have been 76ers.

Ship Hank.

Yeah, I mean, I'm just, I just want to help him. I listen, no one roots for Max more than me. That's that's the thing that he doesn't realize that, like, I want him to get to this level.

Emotional support animal like somebody, that's that's a bigger loser than him and that way, he.

Can shit on that person memes?

Hank's okay, but yesterday he just had to post highlights of Tom Brady sucking off Hank.

Shout out big Dom, Shout out big Dom.

It has nothing to do with this Max, we can talk about that later.

No, no, that was. That was a win for me. I get, I get, I get to get one of these wins every now.

And then, Oh, big Dom sent us some footballs, that was a win. Wow, you got sent some merch.

Big Dom's a legend hank. Do you think Tom Brady would ever send you some merch? Yeah, of course. yeah, it was. It was very cool seeing you guys meet him.

Hank and Dave and Gaz, and fights and fights. First words to Tom Brady were, No, you shut the hell up, thank you, and yeah, so Hank, tell us, let's do that.

It was, it was a beyond surreal night. We obviously, well, first of all. We parked like a mile and a half away and Dave had a parking pass, but he didn't have it. So he was like, we'll just walk so we. It was a classic Barstow situation where we were walking like so far, to get to the stadium, which was which was funny cause.

No, not getting cut.

McCordy was doing the interviews and, uh, he asked Fidelberg question. I wish, I wish it aired so bad. I've never seen Fidelberg freeze like this in his life. Like, he asked me, he's like, Did you guys know you're going to jail? And I said, we thought we're going to get out in the same night.

Was something was definitely something, and then when he when he thanked you.

We had the game on a phone, like we were watching it, and I think Dave tried to get it on his phone. With YouTube, TV. And the the region that said, like, you're in the wrong region. And he just kind of was like, I got to watch, like he just went from trying to get it on.

Speech Yeah, and when he thanked you, you pulled an all time power move, which was you stood up and you, you gave yourself a standing ovation. Yeah, pump up the crowd.

Mean, the pop, the fact that we got a pop, there was, you know, different pops. All night people came on the stage. Randy Moss By far the best one. It brought me to tears. They had, you know, they had, uh, they had defense come on, and then they had some offensive players come on. And they had the quarterbacks come on. At different times to do, like talking segments, and Randy Moss came on.

Beautiful, beautiful moment. Um, question Hank, Uh, this moment where Tom Brady mentioned you in his Patriots Hall of Fame induction speech again before anything else. Before his parents, he mentions you. So that clip goes out, uh, means from your perspective, how is that having to post?

That.

The game is right. Yeah, you're right, you're right. It's part of the job.

You did every second of it. Keep going, hank.

We've got verbals, okay, all right, so there's a work trip, good job.

Lighthouse It looked like shit. Oh no, it looked awesome. No, it looked like dog. The picture of you in front of the lighthouse was true.

Your face paint on for you? Yeah, well, I kept rubbing my face and then forgetting I had face paint on. And then, like, wiping it off my white shorts, which was dumb. It was a little bit of a messy, a messy, messy evening. I'm just jealous.

And then next topic the Celtics are up three. Oh, and the Mavs, Luka has gone out as sad as sad could be, they've just tough. It's a pathetic second half by Luka. Where there was that two possessions in a row. Where he took back to back threes and tried to get a foul call and then just didn't go back on defense, that was so, so sad.

Hank, Let's not do this again, let's not do this again. I do agree with Hank that. Jalen Brown.

Jalen Brown It was was Jim Brown scored 24 points in the second half. He was incredible, like a phenomenal Celtics team. I. It's crazy because that blowing that.

Same time they they asked Derek White about that after the game, like, is Joe Missoula do you think he's happy? The fact that you guys keep coming close to getting beaten and then you, you just put your foot on the gas and crush them. And Derek was like, Yeah, he's a sicko.

You can see, like the maturity, that's a better shirt than Giruth.

The truth, Yeah, you're wearing it.

Okay, what about? what about the dry, nasty yeah drum Brady, our good friend Donnie?

Whore for July Yeah, whore for July is pretty good. May the whore be with you. Uh, there's a lot of good shirts we can sell hank when you inevitably win. But big cat, you brought up Brian Wind Horse and his, his evisceration, his ether of Luca, and you saw him.

Baby back, bitch He was being a baby back bitch last night. And after the after, he demands that they challenge that one, the next play or the set, maybe a play after that. I think it was a P.J. Washington screen. Yeah, that one could have been challenged and probably would have been overturned, but they burn the challenge because Luca was complaining.

Yeah, it was really bad, and it got so bad that even Mavs fans, they were like, we can't, we can't defend this, it was bad. Those, uh, that, uh, back to back series.

It's actually, we can't Luca this. yeah, we can't defend.

We know we we can Luca this, we can Luca this, we're going to Luca this right now, meaning we're not going to defend it, yeah.

How bad it's been, he's getting blown by now. You could make the argument shut up for this part.

Max, Can you meet Hank real quick? Cut Hank's mic?

You have enough going on, you can't like, just let us talk about Luca for a minute.

Yeah, okay, so um, now I forgot where I was because Hank interrupted me to to join the dog pile. Oh yeah, the the compilation, the compilation of his defense.

Well, and I, I, I'm not even like Luca's defense. We know it's not elite his offense is, but more than just Luca's defense. It's just more of a testament to the Celtics having no holes. They don't have a guy who can you you can sag off of, they don't have a guy that you can basically say we're going to ignore them.

And I laughed, That's a good point. I laughed a little bit, That's a fair point. That's more of a shot at Luca, by the way.

Other way around, I'm like, I'm legitimately happy for Wendy. And the second part of his career, when when everyone thought that all he could do was cover LeBron. And he is, because he does this every now and then, where he will go hard on someone, and it will always be facts and you. You don't see it that often in traditional journalism, in traditional sports media, because everyone wants their access.

Hey, are you getting updates of the Rim? And then you said, Oh, no Max, you should give him updates.

Yeah, because I want to see you and I want to see you fail.

Updates The only update I gave was going at it. This is hard to hear. Find me the updates. What?

Did I say I said the tatum shot, cause that was a funny shot? That was a funny shot, it hit like?

17 parts parts of the rim.

Almost instantly started coming back.

Drink a water well. That was at like two o'clock when he was like, Oh my god.

Okay.

But none of my updates were were done, I only gave one negative update.

You tried to see you try, you factor fiction. You started texting Hank being like, cause I thought it was going to be the Mavs night too, but you started taking, texting Hank. When they were up 13 and the crowd was rocking, and you're like.

This is going to be awesome. Yeah, no, well, I will also. Hank was having such a good night.

It was such bullshit. Oh. After Max said drink of water, Hank says I didn't even get drunk tonight.

I drove high on life. Uh, either way, I got back. Yeah, I, I got back. My phone died.

The best team of all time. It's hard to keep track of all of Hank's dubs. And then they got.

Smoked again, the only, the only other game thing that I noticed. I was watching some of the replay, uh, before we recorded, cause I was watching on my phone. Basically till the fourth quarter, then I was watching in a bar, so it wasn't as fully locked in. When the Mavs came back, Jason could call the timeout when they had all of the momentum.

J. Jalen Brown They didn't. You got the illegal screen, which was a horrendous call, and they had been letting everything go all night. And that that ended the game. The Celtics were on their.

Heels, I mean, he put his shoulder into the guy's neck. But yeah, they also didn't. That was a makeup call. They, they. He did have an illegal screen that they basically did the same play coming down the court, a possession before they didn't call it.

Don't do it again. He did it again. They called it, so it was a makeup. Is it a makeup foul?

Did he put his shoulder into his neck? Both the, uh, it, the Celtics did, it was. It was bizarre. They were cruising that third quarter, they were cruising and they were just driving and getting to the rack, you know, kicking out for open threes.

JALEN BROWN But I think Game four could could swing it either way. Like if Jason Tatum goes off for like 40 or triple double or something. No shot, he's shooting like 8, he has a shot.

Has, if you look at the odds, if you look at the odds Max, I think Las Vegas knows a little bit better than Max. Las Vegas has him. I think that he's the second most likely to get MVP at getting MVP, but what? But at what odds look? I can pull it up right now.

He'll get it, but Jalen Brown that that second half like that, he took over. Oh, did you see?

When, um, when they were reviewing the challenge, uh, when Luca was fouling out, there were. There was a moment where Luca was just staring at the referee and you could see the look on his face. Like, Oh fuck, I shouldn't have talked all this shit to referees my entire career, that's, yeah.

Because, do you know, do you know who I am? Like him saying, like, Oh, you're going to give me six fouls in the finals, like, dude, you gave you fouled six times, probably more, and the ref?

The ref that's reviewing it, I'm not saying that he's going to, like, hold something personal against Luca. And if it's not a foul, call it a foul, but if it's close, fuck him. Yeah, I.

It's our Luca flow chart that we said a week ago. If he hits a shot, he'll yell at someone in the crowd and flex and stare at them. And if he misses a shot, it will be like, I got fouled and start screaming at the ref and slowly get back on defense. That's how it goes every single.

Possession, it works. And and we should, uh, we should maybe lay off Luca for a second. Cause I think that there's something else that we need to discuss, maybe the reason why Luca is being the way that he is.

Well, he's had good games, he just sells. Us are better. Yeah, I mean, he game two he was.

Awesome, he was good first quarter in that one. Yeah, he's, he's played well. But I guess I'm more colored by the last, the last half that I saw play and how bad it was.

All right, Jalen Brown's a minus two 80. Jason Tatum is plus two 50, so yeah, this is gonna be Jalen Brown. Thank you to DraftKings.

Way more honest, go peas, he might as well just answer it all with Go peas, Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it worked out well, but Rory played very well today. uh, Max played okay, yeah.

Sex is propelling him to get in the hole. Wait. So he essentially said he was going to get divorced so that he could go hook up with a couple of chicks for, like, a month. Who knows what? A.

What a move, a fake divorce. Are you saying? it was a fake divorce? maybe?

No, I'm I'm saying he probably had intentions of divorcing and then hooked up with some chicks.

I was like, Nah, actually, I don't really, I'm good, yeah. He started dating one crazy chick.

Yeah, like, I'm good, I'd. I'd rather. yeah, I'd rather just have my family.

Well, he's been out of the game for a long time, right? They got married a while ago, 10, 15 years, something like that, so the game's changed a lot since then. He's probably not equipped to handle sexting. Married in 2017..

I'm not, I'm going to be honest, I'm not a big. I'm not really up on Rory McIlroy's love life. I'll be, I'll hand up. That's a sports story that I've missed.

Um, you guys see his final pot? Yeah, he walked it in, yeah, it was sick. He walked it in with like five feet to go, and it never had a doubt.

Um, hank, I also want to say that, uh, it's a little cool that we played mid pots.

Thank you, you're welcome, you're welcome. A couple of times today, I was watching.

Times where I saw it in the straw and I was like, Hmm, what would? what would I do? Oh, I actually did it. Driver off the deck Yeah, that's what they should do here. Same soil, the same grass.

I could answer to Iman's questions about the grass. I actually was green, there's just so.

Much, a lot of green talk, it's all about the green borderline. I saw someone saying that.

Mid pines, those are the greens, better than pinehurst, to that pinehurst two isn't even.

Close to the best pinehurst.

He was a pro golfer, he said. I'm ready for some abuse, just going to spit it out. Pinehurst is such a cool area with great courses, number two ain't one of them most overrated course in the world.

It's a great test what they've done out here. None of us, none of us shot five under at mid pines. No, they're, they're just bidding this course over, but I hope that the scores don't stay this low. I hope, I hope the course comes out a little bit.

On this week, right? Yeah, it's going to get, it's going to, it's going to get harder. Can it become more borderline? No, I think it goes over the line.

Yeah, he got a nice tan, all fucked up, and he's got that's how you know you're a golfer when.

You, he doesn't care, though, that's my point. Like, there's no way that you go out looking like that if you, if you care about other things like looks and everything.

All right, so I thought the exact opposite of you with his haircut. I thought Scotty definitely cares now. Scotty cares about his appearance, He's trying to get a swag up. I thought he looked good.

Yeah, I thought he looked great, no, but it's the opposite with the.

With his sunburn and and the lack of color there. Because it means that he probably got a haircut last night, and no one gets a haircut right before the tournament. You, you know, everyone knows a haircut takes at least like five to seven days to settle it.

Right, but you're proving my point because Scotty's never been a haircut guy. And then, No, no, no, this is the first time, this is the first time where he's like, I'm going to look good at the U S Open. So I'm going to get my haircut the day before I play.

No, it's. It means that he doesn't even think about like he when you get a haircut right before the U S Open, he doesn't. He's not even thinking about it. He literally was just like, Oh, I need a haircut. It doesn't matter what day it falls, I don't care what I look like.

No, I think I think he got the haircut to look good. He doesn't look good, though. I think he looks okay, he looks good. That's what he was thinking.

He's got the he's got that jail swagger, like he does have a little bit of bad boy flare.

He's like, I gotta get a fade now, there's no way. You guys, you guys looked at his haircut and thought it looked good with the way, with the way the tan lines have worked out.

I thought, I thought the attempt at looking good it, it perked me up, I was like.

Wow, Scotty's this guy's got. I don't think it's an attempt at looking good, cause he's got a wife. She could be like, Hey, it looks bad, he just doesn't care, that's the whole point.

Care I respect a fade always. So there's actually an official U.S. Open barber named Monty the Barber. He cut the point he saw free Tiger Tommy Fleet.

He the man saw free haircut, No, I think he saw the guys on tour that have style and he's like.

I want to use their barber. No, he got a free haircut, no, this guy goes to every U.S. open.

Since 2018.

Hanging on, No, Tiger called up that news reporter. I was like, Tiger, add my name to that story. I want, I want Tiger Woods to be in the haircut story. Tiger being in there is just.

Completely wild, uh, no one gets. If you're trying to look good. You don't get a haircut from a guy you don't get a normal haircut from unless you're a guy that's never been a haircut.

Guy, and you're only using the dude. I mean, he's gotten a haircut before. Yeah, he does look great.

And I guarantee these guys pay for it. I mean, they probably tip, this guy's, this guy's getting to cut Monty the Barber. I, you can't, you can't tell me. Scotty, like, cares about what he looks like if he's getting a free haircut the day before the U.S. So I think he had a moment where he did care.

What he looked like and he fucked up by getting it too close. Yeah, the Oilers just scored. Wait.

So you're admitting that it's a bad haircut? If you say fucked up, I think it's a it's not.

You just proved my point. I didn't prove your point. I said he fucked up. No, I said that he might've gone too close, cause he's never been a haircut guy.

Look great, the Oilers maybe have a chance here for three. Either way, that was a lot of scotty.

Sheffler haircut talk. I think I think the the people will bear me out on this one. I think that Scotty was, he was trying to do something, might not have worked out, but he made an attempt.

Oh, I, he does not care, he does not care what he looks like. I mean, he looks like a 50 year old man and he's 26. He that he cares about God, his wife and golf, and he doesn't really care about golf.

Thoughts Uh, whenever a quarterback signs a big contract, I always like to just jump ahead and think about the next contracts that are coming. That's what you have to do. When a quarterback signs for big. It's like, who who gets more money now?

Think Trevor Lawrence is a good quarterback, Uh, he had a bad year. And you just this is. This is when you think that you have the guy and he might be the guy, but you have to pay him. This is just the cost of doing business in the quarterback world just keeps going up and up and.

Up and, uh. We won't make excuses during the regular season, but after it's over, I think, I think we can say that. Trevor Lawrence was one of the more injured quarterbacks throughout the course of the season. Just in terms of, like, trying to play through stuff. It came out a little bit, but he's still a very good quarterback and I would. I would love to have a quarterback on my team long-term. We have better quarterbacks.

He said it, he said it for sure, I take, I take Caleb, no questions.

Someone tweeted last night which I don't, I'm lying, I want it to happen. What if, what if? Uh, Drake May is the is the Jason Tatum of of, you know, a Markel Foltz like the draft.

He was third pick, so he'd never be the So Drake may would never be the best player on the Patriots.

Yeah, I mean, if they're winning championships, who cares? That's the patriot way. I learned that last night, over and over and over again.

About how great Tom Brady was? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was about how great Tom Brady was.

But all the players talked about how great he was, He as good as he was a football player. He was a better guy. And that really stuck with me. But that's still Tom Brady being great.

And I very much disagree with that statement. Tom Brady is one of those people who you can absolutely say he's a better football player than he is. Person. I disagree.

How could you disagree? Well, Hank's basically his family. Did he try to make out with you?

It's not a slight on him. Hank, he was. He was staring at me, though pretty hard. He was looking, He was looking through my soul.

You think Tom Brady is at the top, like 0?

Possibly possibly. John Daly, Yeah, Bill Walton, okay.

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Yes, absolutely, all right. So we're watching the last minute 49 of the Oilers-Panthers game. I really would love for the Oilers to tie this up so that we could get. This would be such a bummer if we got two sweeps, I know.

Might be the most hated show of all time. I realized I talked more in the beginning of the show than I've ever talked to my in this show's history. And I I think the reviews and ratings.

Are going to show that, but that's fine. We just got to get to, we got to get to September.

Probably should have known. Alex Pereira versus Jerry Projalka. Nailed it, nailed it, we probably.

Should have known this was going to. we probably should have known this was going to happen. When McGregor was, uh, at the club. Like four weeks ago, like, beyond, fucked up up. And oh no, not an empty netter goal. We should have known at that point. I think, Pft, yeah, it's, it seemed.

Like it for a while. And when they're delaying, when they're canceling press conferences and weigh-ins, getting delayed and shit, it just. It felt like it was never going to happen. I want to know what actually went down, though. Yeah, do they have some sort of reality show?

UFC around, Uh, I saw some clips of Dana White. I saw that clip where they told John Jones that he was out for a year and that was. That seemed like it was behind the scenes camera. That might have been a rerun, too, that could have been.

Yes, yes, you see, the writers really went, went fucking dummy with that one.

Yeah, uh, all right, I had two last things. uh. One was. Dan Hurley did a long interview with Matt Norlander from UH, CBS. And I wanted to share just a couple of quotes with you guys.

Stuff at you? Yes, yeah, that's one of his. I was out there just trying to have a mimosa and tank, a job interview. And next thing I know, I got this guy. He says. He's a professional boxer with hands that could kill a man.

Linked to this job? Next thing, you know, it's being reported. And then the last one I wanted to say, which made me laugh. He was asked about the Billy Joel concert, and, uh, the reporter asked, I want to stick on two more questions with Billy Joel concert.

Shit where they don't like. When Belichick used to not understand what Snap Face or Uh, or the other one was, I forget what he called like, Instagram, uh. But yeah, I want my coaches to be as completely untethered from nature as possible, right? Absolute psychos.

Okay, I like the thinking, it's a free thinking thought. Uh, my only question would be, why would the Lakers willingly get embarrassed publicly for just Woj?

Go ahead.

Negotiations? Okay, okay, that makes more sense, that could be possible.

Didn't fully win here because, like, did you see Shams doing a little bit of a victory lap saying He, he? He kind of went back at WOJ and was like, Yeah, they were going. Dan Hurley was, I guess the or, Dan Hurley was the first choice. I guess like WOJ Shams was kind of dunking back on WOJ cause they didn't hire Dan Hurley. Yeah, WOJ ended up not being right. He just had a a week where he looked like he was getting it over shams.

Hurley He didn't say that Dan was going to get the job. And if I was Shams, I would do the exact same thing. Because you had that story and then there was like a speed bump, and now it's back to your story again.

To change the heart. But what Hank's saying makes way more sense. Because Polenka wanted to pay JJ less, and LeBron wanted JJ. But they didn't want to seem like they were just going to hire whoever LeBron wanted. They wanted to go out and say, Hey, we're going to hire Dan Hurley. also, Dan Hurley is a fucking awesome coach. they probably wanted to hire Dan Hurley.

That's probably the most likely explanation is that they wanted Dan Hurley. He said. No, now they're going to go with JJ, but what if WOJ just controls the entire NBA?

That could, that could happen, that could be could be true.

I do love and they'll never, you know, there's never, there's no market for it, and they'll never, be completely honest. But it was like this with with Schefter and Rappaport, and now it's WOJ. And Choms. Like, I just love thinking about how mad they get at stuff like when Choms is on ESPN. Saying like, I guess, like, they're just reporters. And there'll never be an actual reality show for them, and they would never actually show how mad they are. But like he was, he probably threw something like that.

And I remember, I like, I imagine, when WOJ first announced the Danny Hurley thing. Choms was sitting in his parents. I think he still lives at home parents kitchen. And, like his mom was like, Here's your breakfast? She's like, No, mom, not right now, like, I just missed a scoop.

I need more sports, Get ready to learn Dingers only buddy. I need more sports right now. And I, I do like baseball. But it's too early for me to just only pay attention to baseball. Baseball is a great sport to pay attention to, with like 50 of your attention going to a different.

Sport Well, I have one other sports story we could talk about, uh, memes. Aaron Rogers.

There's no problem. The problem is Robert Sala handled the situation wrong, and it sounds like a problem. That sounds like a problem. It's a problem, but it's not a problem.

What does that mean?

Yeah, so interesting. When I, when I brought this up on the last show you, you said it wasn't a problem at all. You said this was a Florio wet dream and you? But then you just said, Right now, it's half of a problem.

You're shouting like a Florio right now. No, no, no, no, they just handled.

They handled it wrong, the coaches handled it wrong, the PR handled it wrong.

That's a problem, it is a problem, it's not a problem. Yeah, you're becoming a Florio.

So wait, I'm very confused because it sounds everything you just told me it sounds like.

There's a problem here, there's no problem, as long as he's there for week one, no problem.

So why are we talking about it then? Because there's a bunch of yappers.

Out there who just need something to talk about. Who started it, though?

Um, that'd be Bob, Bob, bob, who, uh, Bob's law. That's the coach of the jets, the coach of the jets, that's a problem.

I think now James try to follow me on this one. I think that Bob, Uh, would not have talked about it being a problem if it wasn't a problem, right? So then now we got a couple of problems.

Maybe maybe Bob's not the not the best speaker up there, which is bad for your head.

Head football coach, That's a problem, that is a problem. He wants to be a leader of men.

I've seen him do a few interviews, he seems like a pretty good speaker.

I've seen him do a couple, he's he's not the best speaker.

I think it's a problem, I think there might be a problem there.

There's no problem, he's fine, he's probably like, I don't know. Help at a charity event.

Okay, all right, he's at like, he's at a charity event. Wait, wait, I want to follow this, so he's at a, he's at a charity event. Uh, for an organization that wants people to know as little about them as possible.

Yeah, it's under wraps right now. He's working on some stuff and that'll go public in the fall.

I do like, I, I, I kind of does. He got like a BBL or something?

Uh, someone put it perfectly. Uh, this is, uh, uh. Listener Cam Breslin, one. He said It's such a non-problem that some are saying it's a problem. How much of a problem others are making it. When it's not a problem? Yeah, it's not a problem, but then it becomes a problem because people are making it so so not a problem that it's crazy.

In itself is a problem. Things are almost too perfect, and then people are like, why? why is this going so swimmingly? That's an issue now, we've got issues.

Like the jets might, the jets biggest problem might be that they have so many non-problems.

Yeah, they're making other teams jealous because they've got it so good.

Like, all they do is talk about how. There's not a problem. When you see that you got to think, well, is that a problem? That there's just no tension whatsoever?

I saw some people making the point that that Tom Brady missed a few of these camps as well over the course of his career. So it shouldn't be that big of a deal or a problem. Um, that was also Tom Brady after he was winning Super Bowls. With the team that he played with for years and years, with the same players that he played with for years and years and years. Yes, memes.

So, uh, that was on the box. Tom Brady missed two weeks.

Okay, and then they went super, yeah. But he told him more or fewer than five snaps for the box that first year.

Won a Super Bowl, so there's a difference. Tom Brady, Tom Brady told the Box in advance, and they said it was excused. So people are saying that if Aaron Rodgers actually did, tell them in advance. And then Robert Solid just went on on the podium and blurred everything out on.

A Monday, you know what I'm saying? Everything you say just seemed it's just a big blinking problem. Yeah, that's all I see every time you open your mouth means just problem.

He's fine. Who, who?

Can you take a picture of the side of your face to look at your haircut? I just felt a little.

No, I just felt a weird little bump. Oh, everything. Okay, it was that you going to the.

Doctor, I don't know picture.

This episode would be, I know right now, holy shit, holy shit. It'd be a real shame.

Memes and Max are just sitting there, rubbing their hands together right now.

Oh, memes, don't fucking nod at that. Jesus Christ, he's fine, Hank's fine, too.

Fine hanks. Oh no, okay, all right.

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I was still in the N.B.A. I think, yeah, back in your guys New York Days, yeah, 2017, so.

I mean, let's start with the podcast. You guys have like, blown up what? I mean, what's the big thing? That has like resonated with people that you guys are like, Oh shit, this is actually working.

We didn't really know what a podcast was at the time, you know what I mean? We just knew that we were both working at ESPN and Fox and it was fun. But, you know, it was kind of a straight line. And he and I like to draw outside the lines, you know, most of our lives. So I pitched him the podcast idea, he said. What is it?

Podcast of the Year Wow, congrats. Wait, who gave that out? were we up for that?

Win it, it's not a real award. If y'all didn't win it. No, no, I mean, if you ever listened to the show, we shouldn't win. No, we should definitely never win. Every day we wake up, we're like, How are we still allowed to do this?

Put into it, it's a lot, it's a lot to get it off the ground, you know? But as I was explaining before we got on the air, we we, we bulk shoot. So we'll, you know, we'll shoot probably every four to six weeks, and we'll shoot, you know, in two or three days. We'll shoot six, seven, eight shows. And then just bank them.

Now, yeah, where do you guys see it going from here? I mean, I'm looking around, I think I'm.

Looking at the blueprint, yeah, that's why I'm just looking around, saying, Well, we did, direction.

We trying to get to this, is it? Yeah, I mean, obviously congratulations to you guys and everything you guys accomplished in this space, and that's kind of our next goal. You know, we went from one show to, you know, signing a multi-year deal with Draft Kings and partnering with Metal Lark. And, you know, we put out five shows. Q One.

Hoop regularly or no? I box? Oh, yeah, I don't. That's a scary proposition, yeah.

Boxing soft, just to stay in shape, just to stay in shape. I think, you know, being an athlete, you got to do something. Because your body really starts to shut down when you stop, you know, when you stop being active, so I just try to stay active. In softball and boxing, that would be a.

Good podcast. Just go like three rounds of somebody and do like, five minutes. I have a I.

Have a a boxer show called Fight Towns. Uh, then the new episode is actually dropping next week. We've been to be there because he has a fight next week. And Roy Jones, this is the first time to actually get a chance to meet, and Roy Jones actually gets in the ring and teaches him stuff.

So it's going to be a dope episode. I like that. Yeah, just fight, fight your guests we getting.

In the fight game, all the smoke fight. Can you talk shit while you're boxing? It's kind of hard with the mouthpiece in, but I think breathing is way more important than talking shit and boxing.

You ever want to fight in a rough and rowdy? We have a we have a like a boxing league.

I would never do that, no, not at 46, if I would've started maybe my thirties, and I've been. I've been punched hard before in real life and real fights with bare knuckles. And I know you can't play boxing, you have to really be in shape.

Nah, I'm not doing that. What if I told you that I talked to Tony Parker yesterday? He called you?

Out, I would give Tony Parker a hug and say, Tony, you don't want these problems. I will hurt Tony.

Who's more likely to come on the podcast? Cause I know you said that you would have Derek Fisher on. Who's more likely, though? Tony Parker? Derek Fisher? Well, I mean.

Either one of them, yeah, I'm not. I'm at the point now, I'm more worried about success than people, right?

But the respect going to remain the same. Have you had a guest on that you didn't like going?

Into it, I haven't. No, I don't think that's the next level. I don't think we should have a guest.

That we don't like, though, why? That's the disagreement. It's fun to, I don't know.

Well, it gotta be somebody that we respect the same time it can't be somebody that wants to disrespect us. And we're going to beat the shit out of them. Yeah, cause we've had a lot of guests.

That have shown up and we're like, we've said a lot of shit about you. It gets interesting, it gets interesting, cause we have to like cop to all of it. You can't have someone on if you've said some shit and then not say it to them.

How he is with it, but like he, he, he wants to have Derek on. I've always feel a certain way, but since he's feels like he was one, they're gone. I'm cool with it now, I'm cool with having me on the show, I don't think he's cool with that.

You know what I mean, but the respects you remember, I just feel like life is too short.