2024-05-03 02:29:09
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Hello Joe, Joe, that was fun last night. Let me just start by saying, what a fun time at the club, the green room and everything else. And here's what I was talking to the head of security about the club.
Here's what I love about the club I work, the club. I had a great weekend a couple months ago. They keep the audience in line, nobody's heckling without getting booted.
Is that not the most important thing in comedy that nobody talks about?
It's very important.
It's unbelievable.
And unfortunately, there's so many crowd work clips that get put out on Instagram. People are now thinking that they want to be a part of the show. Yeah, I see people much more often chiming in and yelling things out and they think they're going to be a part of things.
Yeah, and even when you go, when you try to be nice on the first line, you go. That was okay, sir. Then they try again. You're like, Listen, you p, Oh my God, but that's what I love about your club. Everybody there just has the energy, like, we're going to tell you right now another word, you're out.
That's how it should be. Yeah, because, as you know, there's no, nobody heckles once, right? nobody's ever heckled once.
Nobody heckles sober, either.
And nobody heckles sober and they just like to start trouble. And the green one was fun. And even though I didn't go on, I also didn't go on because you have to understand the language where I was.
Like, you want to go on, I go, I don't really want to go on, you go, that's cool. But really, then you're supposed to say, the crowd really wants you to go on. And I'm like, Joe, I don't want to bump anybody.
No, you wouldn't be bumping anybody. We'll just cut Tony's time down. Joe, I don't want to be that guy. You're like, don't be ridiculous.
Oh, I have to dance with you. go on, I didn't know you wanted to dance, you want to dance tonight.
No, I got to leave, I'm going to Seattle tonight. what the fuck I got to go, I would love to.
Are you performing tonight in Seattle?
No, no, maybe I can change my flight. well, let's see, maybe I can change it.
Move it around. There's plenty of flights out of Austin, it's a wonderful hub.
It is, it's great, it keeps booming every time I see it. Last time I saw it was Covid.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to get too much bigger, I think we've reached peak.
You think so?
Yeah, yeah, I think it's about it.
You think Shane Gillis was the last citizen they allowed in?
No, there's a few more coming. Joe Derosa just got a place here, he did, yeah, and Joey Diaz is getting a place here.
I can't believe the two Joe D's are going to be here, let's go, that's great.
Joe Diaz and Joe Derosa is a fierce combination.
I know, but I spoke to Joe Derosa yesterday. I deliberately didn't go to the Chicken Place because of Joe Derosa.
Really, why?
Because when he recommended it, it just bugged me, his confidence. When he goes, you got to try this chicken place.
It's Gus's fried chicken, and it's phenomenal.
I just don't like that. Joe has positioned himself as the new gastronomic expert in comedy.
Right, because he owns a sub shop. Yeah, by the way, it's a good sub shop, though.
I heard it's amazing.
It's fucking great.
I'm embarrassed, I never heard of it.
It's fucking great. He brought some over when they were doing moondower, he was in town, he brought some subs over, they were fucking tremendous.
He's got a great place. Yeah, I always look at the Instagram photos, I'm like, Oh my god, it looks so good.
They said The bread's amazing.
Everything's amazing, the food's amazing. He makes a great sub. Yeah, obviously, it's a labor of love.
Yeah, he's a professional comic, it's a side thing. Yeah, he's like, I like sandwiches.
Let's make a sandwich shop. He knocked it out of the park. Everybody who goes there. Big subs, not expensive.
The name Joey Roses is good.
Yes, it's great, it's great.
It's anger producing in some ways, but.-.
In a lot of ways for you, you have a thing with him, I think.
With Joe.
Yeah.
I try to have a thing with everybody, that's my thing, Joe, I like to have a thing. If you had studied straight karate and wanted to MMA, maybe I could have a thing with you. But let's face it, you don't play games.
I do play games.
You're not to be taken lightly. No, I don't.
What about Yeah?
Before he came down here, I was because in New York. It's so funny. We were in the green room last night. All I want to do is bust balls with everybody. Yeah, that's what I live for.
It's fun.
When you see Shane Gillis in there, Shane Gillis is just that guy, he's so big. I just want you to lock him in a basement and just feed him. Red meat and make him train MMA for two years and just eat masculine and red meat and just become a stone cold killer. Wow, that's my dream.
I've got him working out.
For sure, yeah, I know, yeah. He looked sore yesterday, he said. He'd be really sore.
We did two hard days this week.
Well, look how big he is.
He's a big fuck.
Yeah.
Big old football player kid.
If I was as big as him, I wouldn't be a comic. No, I'd be an animal. I'd be working security at the club, telling people shut up, Tony's trying to do something up there.
Comedy's like, it's got an anger to it, don't you think?
A little bit, yeah.
Yeah, it's got to.
Well, there's just so much resistance, it's so difficult to get through. Yeah, there's a lot of fucking running up that river.
Yeah.
What about, yeah, even the way we talk to each other. Like, I'm at the cellar the other night, so here's what happened, so I'm just sitting there. Keith is there.
Norton's there, so I just give the waitress. First of all, I'm like the Sinatra of tipping. I didn't want to bring this up, but now I'm bringing it up because it's part of the story. So I tip them, but I always put it there because I'm trying not to flash how much I tip.
Right?
So I'm trying to do it like that. So Norton goes, I'm going to the cellar, you're tipping you're not part of the rat pack. They just start trashing me for 10 minutes.
Meanwhile, what I should have said was I'm only doing that, so you cheap bastards, don't look bad.
You know?
I understand.
Yeah, this is a daily thing.
I enjoy tipping myself.
Yeah, I could see you're a high roller, too.
It's like, a little love bomb, give a little love bomb to people.
Yes, an extra few dollars, and it makes their whole day.
You don't even feel it. It makes people happy. I always try to tell my cheap friends like, you got to get over that.
Yeah.
Fuck that 15. What are you doing?
I agree, there's a lot of chiselers, Yeah, don't be a chiseler, and they think of excuses.
Yeah, like, Oh, you see that attitude you gave me?
Yeah, I give people big tips and they give me shitty service. I just want everybody to be happy.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can give them a little happiness and maybe they'll be nicer to the next people and use the butterfly effect.
Well, it's certainly not working for the planet right now, let's face it.
We're all right, I think the problem is, we're inundated with bad news constantly.
Yeah.
That's the real problem, and then, you know, there's also, like the problems in cities.
Yeah, well, everywhere. I mean, you know, I just did a special. By the way, about it's releasing tomorrow, it's about I did it in front of a psychiatrist's convention.
Did you really?
Yeah, yeah, wow, I just did it. And so I found I sought out a psychiatrist's convention and went there and said, Hey, would you guys let me go on and just do my shoot, my special in front of you?
And they said, sure, so I did a whole thing then, they analyzed me afterwards and it was funny.
What room was it at?
It was a ballroom like one of those, you know, it was like a Washington D.
C.
Some hotel off the beaten path where they were just having a convention.
And they did not plan on you being there, no, and so you knew they were going to be there at that time, yeah, and you coordinated with them.
Yeah, you set up cameras the whole deal. Yeah, did you inform them before? Like the psychiatrist beforehand, they were going to be a part of a comedy special.
Well, they were welcome to come to the show or not, but yeah, we told them before, you know, if you come, you might be on film. But yeah, they didn't have to show up. Obviously, half of them probably showed up, but it was –.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, I thought it was because it's about the world, how we're having a psychotic break when we're talking about the planet. So it was kind of fun for me because, you know, it was interesting for that angle. The whole special is built around it.
It's so much more discussed, the bad news is so much more discussed, people's problems are so much more discussed. Having problems is so much more a thing that people love to talk about. Now. It makes you more interesting.
It gives you something to talk about and it's just so pervasive, and I think social media has just broken people's brains.
Social media started as a fun aunt's kitchen, where everybody was being positive and saying, like, Hey, you know, dance between the raindrops. And then suddenly somebody was like, shut up, bitch, you fat bitch, fuck you and the raindrops. And it just unleashed all of us. That's what I say.
It's like it unleashed that part of people. And here's the other thing which I think you'll be interested in. It's the first time in history you can threaten people and curse them out and not have to run or have a physical confrontation. So fight or flight instinct is going to be eliminated from our genetics in two generations, yeah.
Not just that, but also you don't feel bad. Like if you say something shitty to someone, you see the look on their face. Even if you feel like you should have done it. When you're alone at night, you might be like, I didn't have to do that, Why did I do that? What a fucking asshole I am.
I got to apologize and then you'll see him the next day. Like I was out of line. I'm sorry. I was dealing with a lot of shit, you know, my mom, my sister, my this, my that.
Sorry, I'm sorry, but there's none of that, and you don't even know these people, too. You don't have to say you can't just say the most evil, mean shit, vicious shit.
Look through their pictures, look at you, you fat fuck, and you're fucking toothless smile.
And they used to have, they used to have gossip magazines, like If celebrities in the 1950s. That's when they started to realize people love to read bad, scandalous stuff. But now you get to respond, you're like the writer and the reader of the gossip magazine.
You know what I do enjoy, though, when people don't understand how it works. And they'll post something and just get smashed in the comments, and then they'll start going back and forth with people in the comments.
Like, what are you doing? what are you doing? Oh yeah, oh yeah, well, what about? Well, one of the biggest problems is people. This is one of many of them trying to be funny that they've never had to. They've always thought they were kind of funny.
And then they go in and try to be funny and they get away with a couple because they have two people that go. Hey, that was good. They start to think I'm funny, and then they get in there and people just start destroying them for trying to be funny. Because they're not used to the heckling that we're used to.
We got trained out of all our hack habits. Comedy trains you, the audience trains you.
And being around the comics.
And being around the comics.
Regulates you? What the fuck was that joke?
It regulates you.
Yeah, it does, it does. yeah, you get feedback, yeah.
Feedback's important, positive and negative.
It's a whole other level.
Yeah, who gets more feedback than comics? We get, like real live feedback from hundreds of people every night.
Every night you got feedback last night.
Just last night.
You can't live in a theoretical world of like, I think this is funny, I think this is good, you're getting feedback.
Yeah.
You know?
It's fun, though, don't you still enjoy it?
It's the best, it's the only honest reaction you can get in today. There's nothing virtual about it.
The most honest form of entertainment, because you write it, you perform it, you produce it, you edit it. Like, I was saying, like, how easy doing sitcoms was when I first started doing sitcoms.
Oh, yeah, I go. They're great writers, they write you great jokes, you don't even have to work hard, yeah.
And I was talking about how bad my act suffered during those days. Yeah, because when I was first on a sitcom in 94, we were working like 12 hours a day news radio. It was long, long, long days.
So by the end of the day, I'm exhausted. So if I did go up, it was just the same old material, just rehab, I wasn't connected to it anymore. It was like flat.
Yeah, you know, and because when they're writing for you, it's so much easier. Like the jokes are already there. All you have to do is like, add your little sauce to them.
It's great. Flare them up a little bit.
I know I get so jealous of the idea of, like the old days, comedians would just have writers. Oh yeah, like, what do you got for me? We got to go out and think of this stuff.
A few people still do that, right, a few guys do, like, I know, obviously the guys who host talk shows do, Yeah, you know, you can't write a new monologue every day.
You'd be out of your mind.
I did on tough crowd.
You did, you wrote that every day.
Now I'm not saying most of them didn't bomb, but I did write them all myself. No shit, yeah.
When I went to see you on Tough Crowd, the best part of it was you warming up the crowd. I was like, why don't they show this? This is funnier than the rest of the whole show. It was so good, it's so good.
It was fun and that crowd was crazy, they were coming like a lot.
Well, I was living in California at the time. And I just like, sometimes I forget, sometimes, you know, sometimes you haven't seen a guy in a while and you're like, God damn, I forgot how funny Kyle is.
Right, right, right.
You know, you just you need to see it, you need to see them live.
You do, you need to go out and see it?
Yeah, just get in your head, it's the best thing. I mean, I've been doing it for so long, but I still love it, I love it.
I love crowds, I love watching it, I love doing it, I love it, it's so much fun.
And what's fun about it, too, is you can't if you don't, it's like working out. If you don't do it, you just get flabby and out of shape.
Yeah, that's it, no way fans are about to buy on it. When I take a time off, I go on vacation for like, 10 days. I'll have one really good set when I come back because I'm enthusiastic, yeah.
And the second set is like, a little fucking shaky, I'm like, what's going on with this set?
And that's what's great. Yeah, that's the horror, but that's the best part about it.
It's just reality.
Everybody that steps away from it too long. They talk in this term where it's like, Oh, you got to do a reality. I'm mediocre when I get on stage, I'm going to be mediocre tonight, even though I don't want to be. And I'm like, Hey, I really figured this out and guess what?
I didn't figure it out. And the crowd just lets you know, that's the beauty.
How much time did you take off during Covid?
I did a few shows, I mean, I did some shows that were like on, I did remote shows, which I loved, remote comedy.
Really, I loved it, like Zoom comedy.
Zoom Comedy. You loved it, I loved it.
You're the only guy I've talked to. Everybody else said it was hell.
Because I just read, they think I'm just looking at them, I'm reading my act. So any new material was memorized immediately.
Oh.
It's great, every new joke.
Maybe you should get a teleprompter? What's that? Maybe you should get a teleprompter?
I've tried teleprompters. Yeah, yeah, I wish I could bring them all the time, yeah.
You tried on stage?
I love teleprompters.
No shit, yeah, no, it's a good way to make sure you remember your shit.
Yes, Teleprompter is the greatest.
Because the worst feeling is when you get back to the green room and you're like, Fuck that tagline, I forgot the tagline.
Yeah, or even the intro line, so you're like, of course, it bombed. I didn't even explain what I was going to talk about, yeah.
I love it. Yeah, teleprompter is great, but I've used teleprompters on shows when I did, like one-man shows in New York.
And you can't memorize a teleprompter, you get lazy, mentally lazy, you can't. Then you go on the road and you're like, uh, uh.
You'd think you'd say it every night, you'd memorize it, you can't. It's an interesting psychological thing.
I know some guys who lay out sheets of paper on the floor on stage with like bullet points.
I've tried that. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't really work that well.
It's weird.
The lights are weird, yeah, but you can't even see them.
Do you go on stage with glasses on?
No, that would help. This is one of the first times I've been in glasses in public really well. I wanted people to take me seriously during the interview.
And it's kind of a vibe.
It's a vibe, it's hot on chicks, yeah.
I don't know why I agree.
A girl who doesn't see that good for whatever reason.
For whatever reason.
They just seem smarter.
Hey, for whatever reason, yeah, there's something intense that only became in the 70s, that became like a thing, really.
Suddenly, girls have glasses.
Girls with glasses are hotter.
Yeah, they had the whole new glasses. I'll tell you, certain people just look great in sunglasses. The first person I noticed as a kid. One of your idols? Bruce Lee, I go, that guy looks badass in sunglasses. And he had, like, they weren't completely dark.
They were like, mixed, I was like, that looks cool.
Yeah, he was a cool motherfucker.
He was a cool motherfucker.
Yeah, that dude changed the world.
Unbelievable.
Nobody thought about doing karate before Bruce Lee.
Nobody cared. Well, even when he was on the Green Hornet. I'm old enough, I was there for the Green Hornet days. And you're like, Yeah, that's kind of cool, but you didn't think about it.
But the minute those movies came out, we all saw them. When they first came out, I saw Chinese connection. It was called Fist of Fury. They changed the titles now, but it was Chinese Connection. It was the first one, then Fist of Fury. And then Enter the Dragon.
Yeah, those are the three big ones.
And it was the first time we ever saw somebody with abs.
Yes.
Whoa?
Yes, how cool does that look? yes.
How cool does it look to be ripped? Yeah, look at that, what? look at that?
Come on, I mean, I hate to say it, but my profile pic when I was 19, I basically have the same physique. I don't care what anyone says.
He kind of looks like a twink today, though.
Yeah, he does, if you compare him well, because nobody lifted weights in those days, you know?
But he was the king.
Look at the abs on that motherfucker Jesus Christ today, he'd be accused of having fake abs.
Yeah, yeah, he's a badass.
Bruce Lee Gold medal sunglasses Oh, you can buy them, oh.
Yeah, but I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking about.
No, that one in that photo looks pretty fucking cool.
No, it wasn't these, it was some other look where he just was casually wearing sunglasses.
What a cool dude.
Yeah, he was a badass, he was a real superstar, he just was a star. mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, transcended.
Yeah.
And it also was happening during that weird time, the weird time in life in the 70s.
After Vietnam was really winding down, it was almost done. Now we're back to 1968..
Yeah, we're right there right now.
We're in 1968 right now.
We're waiting for Kent State to jump off. You've seen these fucking protests that are happening in colleges.
Yeah.
First of all, these kids are all wearing masks, they're outside, they're protesting, and they're all wearing masks. I say that it's like the Democrats MAGA hat, that's what the mask is, isn't it?
Nice.
You're letting everybody know, you're letting everybody know that you're a part of the Klan, that you're on the good side. Yeah, I'm masking.
I'm masking for your safety. Yeah, they're just bizarre human beings coming out of colleges today. Well, I completely brainwashed.
Yeah, well, it's—I say it this way, it's 20. —let's say 20 of them are just. —20 of them are kids that were raised to hate the West. Everything in the West is bad, they're brainwashed.
Which is really—the whole curriculum is 20 of that, then I'd say 20 are kids that are—they're the kids that feel like they want to be. Like when I was in college, like when I was in college—remember, this is happening during finals week, so 20 are finals protesters.
Where somebody came up—If somebody came up to me when I was in college and said, Listen, next week is finals. You know, you're going to fail. How about this? We're going to give you some money from this. —George Soros, founder. It's a Venmo thing.
Just—we're going to give you money, you stand outside and you block the other. —Not only do you not have to take your finals. You're going to block the kids that are going to make you look bad and pass their finals, you're going to block them from coming to class. I would have said, give me the scarf, I'll put it on right now.
Then you've got 20 kids are going to be. —They're like the ones that appear pressured by their roommates, because if your roommates are people in college, they know your schedule. So they go, Hey, we're going to go protest genocide. You can't say I'm going—I was going to go to the bar.
So half these kids are like, God damn it, now I've got to go out to the protest, or I look bad in front of all my roommates.
Have you ever seen when they get interviewed? Konstantin Kissin from Trigonometry. He went to the protests and he was just asking them The river to the sea. What does that mean to you asking questions, What do you think should happen?
What do you think the history of Palestine is?
Yeah, and now they're literally praying, they're praying to Mecca now. Did you see all the footage of them?
Oh, wonderful.
They're bowing. It's like, I am objectively going to put a fatwa on my mother.
I just want to come out publicly and say, China, Russia, you guys won, you won, you got our kids, you got the kids, you got a lot of them.
You got more of them than you didn't get.
No, they don't want them. Listen, China, they're teaching kids computer, engineering, law schools are teaching, like, you know, state sanctioned violence in Shakespeare sonnets.
Guys with fake eyelashes reading to toddlers. Yeah, that's what it is. That's what TikTok is. our TikTok's a disaster, yeah.
Yeah, they're smart. I mean, they got us, they got us, they won, they won the ideological battle.
They've destroyed our universities, yeah, they've destroyed our faith in the system.
We did.
Yeah, but they did, they infiltrated the universities.
It happened way before that, in my opinion.
When did it happen?
They just went like this, all they had to do was go like this.
You ever see Yuri Bezmenov talk about it? He's a defector from the KGB, He talked about it in a famous interview from 1984. We talk about it way too much, so I'm sorry if you're hearing this again, folks. But he basically laid out exactly what was going to happen to America in 1964..
And he was saying that.
Yep, oh, excuse me. 1984. He was saying that Marxism and Leninist ideas have been, they've infiltrated all the universities with these ideas.
They're teaching the children, and you have, like, two generations from now, you're going to be fucked.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It started long before any of this China. He didn't say they did it.
He said Russia did it, He said Russia was doing it. They're actively subverting our education system.
But I feel like the idea of this kind of thing started long before, you know before.
I mean, it's been around a long time because people are like, Hey, it sounds fair, like equality sounds fair, right?
So then they slowly started bringing it in. And people. The general narrative is, if you say if I say to you right now, or if you say anywhere, I think America is a great country. People go, Oh my God, do you hear this psychopath?
What an idiot, he's the dumbest person I've ever met. So I'm saying, if you start from the premise that America is evil, which is basically the premise today. And everything we do is, you know, based on oppression and violence, then anybody that goes against that. There's something evil about them.
Yes.
So I don't think that was Russia and China doing that, I think that was us doing it.
I think Russia and China influenced it, particularly Russia.
I think they just agreed.
Well, useful idiots and all that stuff they used to talk about, yeah, but I think they didn't. I didn't think they had far to go.
I don't think you could do it unless people wanted to go along with that.
Well, it's also a situation where your universities are almost entirely dedicated towards one ideology, that's right, you don't have any look. There's clearly over history, regardless of what you think about right-wing people, clearly over history. There have been brilliant conservative people, sure.
But to not address that and to not have those people talk, and to only allow liberal people to talk, or progressive people to talk. You're going to get a distorted worldview, and that's what these kids are getting.
That's right. Well, I mean, even just the fact that Russia and China didn't force them to stop people from speaking at these places. You know what I mean, right? That's what's been going on for whatever amount of years.
Yeah.
Active censorship. And you're like me, you're not some right-wing guy, you know what I mean? You're not....
No, but you've been pushed into a category that people are saying, you're this kind of guy. Because they're so far to the left and so stringent ideologically that if you fluctuate, you're out of the loop, and that's a cult.
It is a cult, but isn't it? I mean, it's one of the beauties. One of the beautiful things about America is the amount of freedom we have of expression. And when you have that and you have 330 million people, you're going to have a certain percentage of people that are just off the rails.
Insane, yes, and if those people are rabid about it and excited about it. A lot of people find that attractive, just like a lot of people find Islam attractive, and they don't just find it attractive. Because of the discipline and the tenets and all the different things that seem to resonate with some people.
They find it attractive because those people are all in and you want to be in a group that's all in. Like, if I leave, they'll kill me.
That's right.
They'll kill you if you leave, but you can join, you can join, they'll take you in as a brother. Ooh, I want to join.
And then people just.
It becomes attractive to them.
Because moderates are considered pussy, I talk about this all the time, moderates are considered. All you can see is a bland guy in dockers with his goddamn, you know, with his dad, Bod.
And nobody's interested in moderates.
Fence-sitters.
Fence-sitters. I say, even in Superman, you've got Lois Lane, she sees Clark Kent, Nice guy. He's like, Hey, Lois, want to have dinner?
She's like, Eh, just dinner. Clark No, all right, I'm sorry. And then Superman, who shows up two hours a week, who's an extremist, just breaks shit, and she's like, Eh, superman, eh? So I'm saying, our whole culture is built around extremists.
Right?
Like, the hero in the movie walks away after blowing up a hydroelectric.
He's never the guy that troubleshoots the hydroelectric game. That should be the hero in every movie.
Imagine being Clark Kent. And you've got to deal with this lady just constantly talking up Superman and talking down to you and you're like, Bitch, you don't know shit.
Yes.
And you've just got to sit there and take it because you just can't spill the beans. You want to say, hey, fucking dummy, you want to just take the glass off. Well, you stupid, I'm the same guy, but just wearing glasses.
I tricked you with glasses.
I catfished you.
You didn't notice that I'm built like a fucking linebacker, you didn't notice that I look like a giant super person. Yeah, oh, I just have glasses on, so now I'm a loser.
Well, because she never slept with him, that's why she didn't notice, right? because she was like, Clark lay off.
Do you think Clark would show off every now and then, like, pick something up, he shouldn't be able to pick up.
Yeah, oh, I didn't know Clark's an insult. Yeah, he is an insult, an angry insult.
A handsome, angry, football quarterback-looking insult.
Yeah, yeah.
He's an insult.
Just because of the glasses.
Isn't that funny? Like that was? The only disguise he had was glasses. It's the dumbest fucking disguise in all of comic books. At least. Batman, like, maybe he had a weird face.
Like, if he had, like, a cleft palate, you're like, Hey buddy, I fucking I know who you are, but no, you know. You just see the little face part, and the rest of the face is covered. Like, okay? hides his voice. I'm batman.
Okay, okay, maybe, but Superman, it's fucking stupid.
It is stupid, but speaking of Bruce Lee, the Green Hornet had a mask, yeah, but then Kato was Bruce Lee, mm-hmm.
We didn't realize, by the way, here's a stupid sitcom I'm watching as a little kid. We didn't realize there's a lifetime legend playing the sidekick. Yeah, how many times has that happened?
Never.
In life, but even then. But he wore this little chauffeur's outfit. Mm-hmm if I remember correctly. Yep.
Bruce Lee wore like a. He was like this sidekick, yeah, but even then you could see a stalker like, even as the sidekick. The two scenes. You're like, this guy's a badass, yeah.
I was like, five years old, six years old. I'm like, look at this.
You know, he was supposed to be in that TV show kung fu, really. Yeah, it was supposed to be about him. it wasn't supposed to be David Carradine.
And why did he say no?
They didn't want to have a Chinese guy on TV.
That's insane.
No, wow. And they picked David Carradine, Yeah, but it worked. The crazy thing with David Carradine is it did work, it worked.
Yeah, it worked.
That show worked, I loved that show, I used to love that show.
Yeah, it was a great show. I was a little kid because every episode there was. Although, let's face it, when you really look at it, it was kind of a woke show. A little bit every week. It was intolerance.
And then David Carradine would come and save the day. You know what I mean?
And kick some ass. He always had to use violence, though.
But he wasn't that great of a martial arts guy. Oh, he was terrible.
It was nonsense. It was totally unbelievable. But the way he was doing, it was like, if you didn't know any better, you're like, Oh yeah, he's got magic.
But if Bruce Lee had done that, he would have broke not the internet, but he would have broke TV wide open.
Oh yeah.
That would have been the best show of all time.
Wheel kicking people and jumping side kicking people in the face. Whoa. It would have changed everything, but the movies changed everything. I mean, he broke through just because he was undeniable.
Oh yeah.
That was supposed to be him.
They opened, I'll tell you, all the karate studios, Jerome Mackey, These were all the karate. These were big karate guys. Back when I was a kid, like karate teachers, he opened thousands of karate studios around the country. Bruce Lee alone?
Absolutely yeah.
It became a thing.
Bruce Lee and then Chuck Norris was how I got into martial arts.
Yeah, Chuck Norris fighting him.
Jean-Claude van Damme Watching those movies.
How about this name, Bill Wallace, you ever hear of him?
Yeah, Superfoot. Yeah, he was a great kickboxer.
And there was a guy named Joe Lewis.
Yeah, Joe Lewis, heavyweight champion not in boxing, but in kickboxing.
That's right.
Yeah, white guy, yeah.
There was a bunch of great fighters, Jim Kelly was a great fighter.
He was in the Bruce Lee movies, too. Did you ever do karate or did you just follow it?
I mean, I did a couple of classes, but I was, you know?
It's crazy that you know about all those guys like Joe Lewis. How about Benny Urquidez?
Benny the jet, Benny the jet, of course. Yeah, well, because when I always tell this. But when I was a kid, the trains were so dangerous in New York. Like, I mean, this is nothing now compared to when I was growing up.
But what I would do is, instead of taking karate, I used to buy karate magazine and I'd stand on the train with my legs splayed like this and stand and read my karate magazine.
Good move.
Who's going to read a karate magazine unless it's a karate? Then I ran into, Owen, Do you know Owen Smith is a comedian? Yes.
From Baltimore. I somehow mentioned that story one night to him, and he goes, I took you one better, he goes. I bought a karate trophy and I used to walk around the streets holding my karate trophy.
That's hilarious.
So while you were studying martial arts, seriously, just remember there's a whole bunch of lazy pricks that bought magazines and trophies. Just so we were like, stolen valor.
People find a workaround. There's a lot of dudes who walked around with kung fu outfits on, Yes.
With the slippers, the whole black kung fu outfit, the white collar, absolutely.
To this day, they still do, and to this day, I'm still like, I don't want to fuck with that guy.
Yeah, I used to go watch them practice in the park and they were faking martial arts. It was made up stuff, they were doing made up things.
What do you mean? The moves are nonsense. It was made up.
And you knew they were made up.
100, yeah, 100. They were doing stuff that just there's no history of this. Like, I don't study kung fu, but I understand it, I know it.
I know what it looks like, I've watched it, thousands of videos on it, I've seen classes, I know what kung fu is, you're not doing kung fu.
You're fucking, you're doing some shit you think looks like kung fu, and you're telling people that you're a master. And you're practicing in the park. And you've got a bunch of other dumb people that are following you, and there's a lot of that out there. Yeah, there was a lot before the UFC came around, there was a lot of fake martial arts guys who pretended they had like some touch of death.
Yes, and their students were like, hypnotized, they were like in a cult.
Yeah.
They would touch their students, their students would like fall to the ground. They're still out there. There's a video, there's an Instagram page, McDojo life. McDojo Life just highlights all these fake martial artists.
Because McDojo is like those strip mall places that open up price, yes, which some of them are really good. Yeah, but you know, this is location.
It depends on the teacher.
Yeah, but this idea of like a death touch that people had, like, some secret powers.
It's the dream, yeah.
Yeah.
I tell you I took six judo lessons when I was a little kid, I should say before the martial arts craze, and I really wish I would have stuck with judo. But in those days, there was no like panic. So you're working a class with the worst headache.
Oh yeah.
Of all time.
Oh, you're getting brain damage.
Yeah, you're getting brain damage.
You're getting brain damage in regular judo, 100 100 judo's bad as hell.
You get brain damage, it's amazing. it's amazing martial art, but you get brain damage from riding a jet ski.
You do.
Yeah, my friend Mark Gordon, he specializes in traumatic brain injuries. He's a doctor and he works with a lot of veterans, football players, fighters and stuff. And he's like, everything that hits your head is bad.
Like, soccer guys get CTE chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the things that boxers get and football players get, and MMA fighters get. Soccer players get it from hitting it with their head.
But how do you get it from a jet ski?
The bouncing, just the bouncing.
Then how come they tell you you're supposed to go on those gymnastic whatever that's called?
Trampolines.
Yeah, trampoline. yeah, I don't think it's like jolting.
Because that's kind of like, catching you and lifting you up and catching you and lifting you up. That's a different thing than boom, boom, boom. It's the heavy-duty, shaking, head banging like Angus from ACDC.
Got to have brain damage. Yes, there's no way he doesn't, there's no way he doesn't. That dude has to be gone.
But who the hell goes on a jet ski? More than, like, once a year? Let's think about that.
Some jet ski people that really love them. jet skis are fun. Yeah, I have a jet ski.
I love it, I've tried it.
It's fun, but if you bounce around on waves, you're getting brain damage. That's how delicate the brain is. The brain is not meant to be jostled around, and guys get concussions from getting hit in the chest.
If you get hit in the chest, your head snaps back and you get a concussion. It happens all the time. You don't have to get hit in the head to get a concussion.
Well, yeah, yeah, but that's why it's a good thing. I stopped judo because every day I'd have a horrible headache I was a little kid.
Also, these guys crash.
Oh my god. Well, that's different, that's ski jumping, that's insane.
I know, but this is what the article on skiing was bringing up.
Oh my god, that's insane. That dude hit hard.
How hard they hit.
Oh, must be nuts.
They're going 30.
So this is a water skiing tournament. Is that what that is?
That's what that was. Yeah, but this is like an article about water skiers getting CTE. Oh, yeah, have to.
No doubt, no doubt, they have it, no doubt.
I bet dolphins have CTE.
I bet they don't, I bet they glide right into that water.
Everybody always says how smart they are, I'm like, Yeah, they seem really intelligent sometimes.
You're dismissing the intelligence of dolphins.
Yeah, when anybody bounces a beach ball on their nose and that's their, they're the valedictorian of the animal kingdom. That's enough for me.
I think you have to do that if you're trapped in that swimming pool, if you want to get fed. I think you'd put that beach ball on your nose, too. That's the problem. The problem is we're so evil, we'll take intelligent things and lock them in a swimming pool.
If we can't understand their language, like, what?
What?
I don't know what he's saying. Do you want a fish or not? Here's the ball, motherfucker, that's what it is.
Out in the wild, though, they're awesome, they play with you, they come hang out, they go by your boat, they jump and they literally want you to see them.
They play with people, you can swim with them, they'll save you from sharks. Oh, I've seen that if sharks are coming by, they'll fight the sharks off.
I saw a video of that. They save people from sharks all the time. They have a cerebral cortex that's 40 larger than a human being's.
What?
Yeah, 40%.
They have dialects, they have different dialects, like you talk like you're from New York. Yeah, you know, I have, like, a little bit of Boston, a little bit of California.
Right, right, and they're like, all fucked up. They can tell from dolphins listening to their vocal patterns where they're from.
Now, wait a minute.
But they can't decipher it yet, but they're hoping they can do that through AI.
First of all, if you don't have a routine about dolphins accents, you're crazy. I'll steal it if you don't do it.
I had a bit about dolphins, it's a true story, actually, it's a true story. I got on very high edibles with my daughter. And we went fishing and these dolphins came by the boats and they were jumping up in the air.
And then I had this crazy thought that what if the concept of me? Like, when you think of yourself, as you know, when you refer to yourself me, you're thinking of yourself. Living in this world with these genes and this city and this street. But the thought of me, like, what if me to me? is the same as me to a dolphin? And then I thought, like, what if that's the same with all human beings?
Everybody's just experiencing life through different biological circumstances, different life experiences, but what if me is the same in every single human being, just dealing with different problems?
No, what does that mean? I don't even understand what you're saying.
What I'm saying is that when you think of yourself, when you think Colin Quinn, like, when you think, like, Oh, I'm looking at the world. This is me, right, that energy of what me is. This is how high I was. I was on like 200 milligrams of pot edible on a boat in the middle of the ocean in Hawaii. Just an amazing experience.
Yeah, but I was thinking, like when the dolphins would jump up, they would look at you. They look you in the eye, right? And you see that they're intelligent.
Right, and I was thinking like, what if I lived his life, I would be him? and what if he lived my life, he would be me?
Right? And what I think of as me is just me stumbling into a bunch of experiences with very particular genetics and very particular like life lessons that I'm carrying around. And I think that's me. But what if the energy of me, the very core of it, is exactly the same? In everybody? We're just experiencing life through different circumstances.
But it's the same thing.
That's God, yeah, what about the, you know? When I was thinking about the whole martial arts thing, too, was when you think about dolphins, fighting sharks or saving people from sharks, that's almost a martial art, too.
Oh yeah, well, did you ever see what killer whales do to sharks?
No.
Ooh, there's this video of this mother killer whale. it doesn't count. Oh yeah, they fuck everybody up. there's this video of this.
By the way, they save people too, and the only time they've ever killed people is in swimming pools. They save people all the time. Killer whales save people that fall in the water, they save them.
They eat everything, they kill dolphins, they kill whales, they kill everybody, but they don't kill people.
We kill them, but they don't kill us. It's the only time they've ever killed people on record. I mean, there's probably been a few circumstances where people were cunts, yeah.
The killer whale killed somebody.
Got what was coming to them.
Yeah, some asshole tried to harpoon their sister or something, you know, I'm sure that happened. But the point is that, like, killer whales don't actively target people when it would be really fucking easy to do so, check this.
This killer whale fucks this shark up, so she's out there with her. Look at this boom, wow.
She's out there with her cubs, and she just puts the fucking clamp down on this great white. It's pretty wild, but it also makes you realize how big killer sharks are, or killer whales, rather.
Killer whales. Yeah, look at that boom, yeah.
I mean.
I just saw something the other day of a killer whale around a boat, some little boat. And it was just, you could tell the guy's like, Oh God, it's over for me, and then the whale didn't bother him, like you said.
Yeah, they just generally.
Just checked him out and left.
Don't fuck with you, yeah, and I think you can kind of talk to them, I think, if you, I think they understand.
If you're like, Hey, you're cool, yeah, like, you know? If you're polishing up a big metal spear with a rope on the end of it, then they might get a little angry.
And they'll probably fuck you up. I bet that I bet if there have been people dying, because is this the guy?
Look at that little boat. Eeper Oh, he got bumped.
Oh my god, Oh my. oh, it's right underneath. wow.
Whoa, you guys getting there? Yeah, yes.
Let's get out of here, let's get out of here, by the way.
But that was a gentle bump.
That was nothing, no, it was just something else. But how about that? Is that not the battle cry of today?
You guys getting this? Yes, it is. It is. That's the most important thing.
Anyone can say the gram, we got to get it on the gram, you guys getting this.
Do you even have Instagram? Yeah, you do.
Sure.
Do you make reels? Do you ever make like, positive? Hey guys, you can really do it, push through it.
Well, I kind of ironically, as you know, I've been doing that for years. I'm kind of a soccer mom on social media just to infuriate people, that's my whole game.
But I do, you know, I've been doing this series called Block by Block on YouTube, which is with this guy homeless pimp, you know him, Mike Lavin.
I didn't know you were doing this.
Yeah, I know I have a bunch of episodes where I interview, it's my little, you know, like the thing I care the most about doing, which is. I interview people from different neighborhoods in New York that I know over the years, and then just get them to tell stories about their neighborhood. So I was talking to my friend from Hell's Kitchen, Mike Spillane.
I didn't even know this was out there.
Yeah, yeah.
One problem with really great comics, and I include you in there, is that you guys are terrible at promoting things.
Yeah.
I know, you know what I'm saying, yeah.
But it's also why the stuff you put out is so great, because you're only thinking about the stuff, you're not thinking about promoting the stuff. Which is a totally different animal.
And we would only come here, where else would we go, we don't know.
Well, doing it yourself, like doing your own promotion, or like letting people, you know.
So I interviewed this one guy, Mike Spillane from Hell's Kitchen, and they're a famous family over there. He's telling all the stories, but one of the stories which you will like was him and my friend Robert, who died his cousin. They were in a bar.
It's like 1980s and Midtown, so Hell's Kitchen is connected to theater and all the Madison Square Garden. So they're in a bar. Some guy starts with Mike Spillane, he hits him.
The guy's friend grabs him around his neck. It's Andre, the giant.
Oh my god.
They're in a fight with Andre, the giant.
Oh my god.
And he picks him up and flings him. And it's like a whole famous story of them fighting and getting their ass kicked by Andre, the Giant.
Oh my god.
And then the cops come and grab him outside and arrest him, and the cop walks in, finds out what happened, sees Andre and just walks out and laughs. He goes, let him go, don't worry about it. So, like, just finding different stories of different neighborhoods.
That's my little thing for, you know.
That was back in the day before Instagram where people weren't snitches.
Exactly right, so that's all. I'm just talking to these people and finding out all the great stories.
If that happened today, Andre would be all over the news, people would be angry at him.
Oh my god, everybody would have an opinion on all of it. Oh yeah, and when this guy was telling the story, I go. So people must have been buying you drinks for months. He goes at Hell's kitchen that time, two weeks, and then there was some new story happening.
Because that wasn't even the story of the month.
What a great name for a neighborhood.
Hell's Kitchen, yeah.
What a great name. Oh yeah, I mean, you kind of have to act crazy if you're there.
And they did, yeah, they did.
If you're going to move to Hell's Kitchen, that's a very specific mindset.
Well, now, of course, it's different, but it was the most. Just imagine a neighborhood in the middle of Times Square when Times Square was taxi driver. So they had to deal with all of that, the theaters, so all the stagehands were there, all the teamsters were there.
It was a combination of everything, all the music studios. Lincoln center on one side, and in the middle is all these crazy Irish guys in Puerto Rico, yeah.
And so much music and so much stuff came out of that area.
It's crazy.
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