#2162 - Tim Dillon

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You get it. I get it. I get the whole thing.

You see how powerful you feel?

Yeah, you feel like you can talk shit, like you're in another dimension.

All the things that you do, like working out and succeeding, you don't need to really do a lot of that. If you put these on, you get a lot of the effects of being a trained fighter and all that crap. If you just put these on, you kind of get the idea of that. Until someone calls you out and kills you.

Yeah, you've got to avoid actual conflicts. You've got to run away. But you do feel superior to people.

Oh, for sure.

Like you have a suit on or something.

Yeah, it keeps you away. There's a distance between you and other people now.

That must be why celebrities wear them when they go out. Probably. We'll see at concerts or UFC fights, you'll see celebrities with full on sunglasses.

Interesting. Yeah.

They're like a cat hiding underneath a chair and the tail's hanging out. It's like, you can't see me, but I can see you, stupid.

Yeah. No, people, they do give you some, and a lot of people, I guess, are on drugs.

Yeah, that's probably why.

And then their eyes are bugged out of their head.

I just think they're trying to avoid eye contact with people, because then people are trying to give them a script.

Yeah, I think that's true. They just don't want to be left alone.

Yeah, I mean, if you want to be left alone in public, maybe that's the only way to do it. You just got to put these.

And they're getting bigger and bigger.

These are so huge.

They're crazy.

This is like a rich lady who gets out of a car with a small dog.

They're crazy, and you wear them, and when I got them, I got them as a joke, but then you just keep doing it.

Because they're good.

Because they're good. They're actually fun, and people come up to you and say nice things about the sunglasses. Which is weird. Which is weird. They'll go, these sunglasses are really cool.

Well, it was, for, this is like a bad sunglasses from the 80s. Yeah. Like, what Brian Bosworth used to wear. Do you remember the Bos?

I don't.

It was a guy who was famous for his sunglasses. He was a big time football player. He was one of those, you know, every now and then, one of those fellas, like, what's his name? The one that's dating Taylor Swift?

Travis Kelce. That guy.

Like, when one of those guys breaks through and becomes famous, that was the Bos. Oh, wow. See? Those are, I mean, those are corny as shit in 2000.. But here we are in 2024..

They're absolutely back. They're absolutely back.

Yeah. Yeah, you had a mullet, too.

Everything comes back. Mullets are back.

Yeah, mullets are back. Theo, probably helped. Yeah, big time. And lesbians. Lesbians, Theo.

There's not enough new ideas. You've got to recycle certain ideas.

After a while, you go, the Mohawk's, not that bad. Yeah, of course. What's the problem?

Everything was baggy, and then everything was tight, and then now everything's getting baggy again. Yeah.

The ladies are wearing baggy pants.

A lot of people are wearing baggy stuff, but then that'll probably swing.

Yeah, I thought the whole idea of the tight pants is to show your body. That's what it's for, right?

For sure.

Yeah. What happened, ladies?

I don't know.

Why'd you go baggy?

Something happened.

I don't get it. Go back to the tight stuff. Yeah. That looks better.

Well, they feel no one can objectify them if they wear a bag.

Yet, they'll go to the gym in yoga pants that are so thin, you could literally read braille through them. Right. You see your full vagina outline. Yeah, it's just hanging out. A lot of these gals are not wearing panties because they don't want the line.

We're kind of lucky as comedians to wear pretty much. You dress up in a suit for UFC and for other stuff, but most of us don't.

Yeah, I don't mind a suit. I wear it. if I have to go somewhere special and throw a suit on. Right. I don't mind it.

They wear it. I saw Seinfeld at Gotham. He's in it.

Oh, yeah.

People wear them. Mulaney wears one. Yeah, they like to wear them.

It gives you a certain, you feel like you're some sort of an expert.

For sure.

You know, you're definitely better than the guy in the hoodie.

Yeah, I agree, but I'm the guy in the hoodie, and I agree with that. Yeah, I agree, too. When I see Seinfeld, I go, I agree that you are, and it's not even fashion. He's better in every way.

I wear hoodies three days a week.

It's fun to wear a hoodie and jeans.

Yeah, it's casual.

It's a great loose.

I feel comfortable.

It's a great thing to just. And to be able to make money in a hoodie is great. Yes. That's the cool thing about it. To have jeans on and go, I'm going to make money in a hoodie and jeans.

I think that's what John Fetterman was getting into when he went into the Congress. That's what he was doing. Look, if I'm going to be rich now, I'm going to dress like what I would dress like about Rick Rubin.

He's kind of an interesting guy now, because now he's starting to make sense, which is strange.

Yeah, what the fuck is going on? Did the stroke knock some sense into him?

I don't know what happened, but he's actually coming out of the gate with some very rational things.

Yeah, good takes on everything. Yeah. Yeah, on everything.

And I'm like, if that's what sweatpants does, let's do it.

I wonder if, when he was running, he was recovering from the stroke. And so that was why he would have those moments where his brain would sink off. And we'd be like, this guy's fucked. He can't be a senator. Right.

He was out of it for a period of time.

Yeah, he was gone. He was in this place where it just didn't make sense what he was saying.

Yeah, but now he's back. And it feels like, from my perspective, that the things he's saying are pretty logical.

What a crazy political move.

Yeah.

Recover from a stroke publicly.

Right.

While in the middle of a campaign.

In a sweatsuit.

Against a guy who's famous. Right. And still win.

And still win. And then get progressively better and make more sense. Because our guy, that's the president, is getting worse. And Fetterman's getting better.

I'm of the opinion, and I think you are too, that Biden doesn't exist. I believe.

It could be the first AI thing.

I think he's a living human being. Don't get me wrong, but there's nothing there. It doesn't exist. It's not there. I don't think there's a question about this.

Well, it's such a weird thing because he came out of the State of the Union. He was pretty good, but he was heavily drugged. Like something. And you might know more than I know about, like certain types of things that you can do. Like what.

What I would recommend is I would time it correctly. Right. So I'd recommend that he got lots of sleep. I would cut all the ice cream out of his diet for several days. Right.

I'm thinking of him getting all these injections in that skin.

Just supplement.

Just that purple skin from all the marks. Oh, God. That skin that's just wound, so thin. It's spun so thin on his body. All of the bruising from all of these needles of stuff that they need to shoot him up with to just be coherent for an hour.

Isn't it crazy? Like when Obama was president, the worst they could get on him was remember when he wore that tan suit? Right. Right. Yeah.

It's insane. It's much worse than even, you know, remember George W. Bush? Mm-hmm. And he would like, you know, say silly things.

It's so far down the road. It's so far down the road that it's like I think it's elder abuse. I really do. I mean, if it was any other job, it would be elder abuse.

Yeah.

If there was a guy who was running the corner grocery store and his family was making him run it, and he was that old and they had money, you'd be like, what the fuck are you doing to your dad? Why are you making your dad work? Your dad's out of it.

Yeah. Why would you do? Yeah. There was a guy in New York, this legendary guy, Dom, who ran this pizzeria called DeFarez, which is like widely thought of as the best pizza in New York. And he was so old.

However, if I went to a pizza place and there's a guy who loves making pizza so much, and here he's fucking dying. Right. It's his last days. He's still going to make you a nice pie. Yes.

He loved it.

If you make good food, it's probably a lot like killing. Yeah.

For sure.

For sure. Like you kill on stage. Everybody loved it. Great. We had a great time.

You don't wonder what the reward is for Biden. Is it even fun? It can't be fun. It can't be fun. Why does he even want to do this?

That guy making that pizza, when someone folds a slice of that pie and goes, oh my God. They're into it. It's like they're killing.

That guy goes, I've made all of these people happy. Yes. But this guy, this just came out in the Wall Street Journal, where they're saying that he's showing signs behind closed doors. Wait.

What are you saying?

I know. It's shocking.

This is crazy. It's shocking. It's what? When President Biden met with congressional leaders in the West Wing in January to negotiate a Ukraine funding deal, he spoke so softly at times that some participants struggled to hear him. According to five people familiar with the meeting, he read from notes to make obvious points, paused for extended periods, and sometimes closed his eyes for so long that some in the room wondered whether he had tuned out.

Or died.

But they can't change him out now. Right? You and I both thought it was going to happen in May.

We were convinced. I remember texting you. I was convinced. I actually heard from people that were kind of around the Trump campaign that thought they were also preparing to run against somebody who wasn't Biden. Right.

Do you think that's it? I think he's the sitting president, and they gaslit everybody into thinking he was fine. So now they would have to change course radically to justify getting him out of office. They just published an article, I think it was in the Times, that was talking about Biden, saying that his age is his superpower. Did you see that?

Seth MacFarlane.

That guy retweeted it. Right. And was like, this is amazing. I couldn't have written this better.

Thing. What? Right. Yeah. What?

So you'd have to turn that back. So you'd have to get all these people. Do you remember when there was a whole list of a bunch of celebrities? They used to make videos where they would tell you what to do. Right.

Yeah. Remember that? Yeah.

Those people of all, you would have to do something like that with Biden.

Well, what's interesting about Biden is they put him in kind of, because they kind of stacked the Democratic primary. They killed the momentum of Sanders. And there was a lot of people. Biden was like very behind and then sprung out. at the end.

Just like they did with Hillary. Just like Donna Brazile wrote about in her book.

They manipulated it to get him in. And it's just weird to me that when everyone sees it so clearly and Trump is up at every poll, why they wouldn't just have him go out, give a very patriotic speech about, you know what? I thought I could do it, but now I can't. I thought I was okay.

Because there's no one other than her. So if you try to promote her as president against Trump, Democrats are going to vote for Trump.

She should lose one more time, but she's going to lose in a way. that's crazy. No, they have nobody else. That's the other thing.

But the thing is, he should lose in a way. that's crazy. If you're looking at like competence, because he's so old, but people will vote for him just because the machine behind him has kept the country relatively okay. He's still going out to dinner. He's still taking plane flights.

You know?

Remember those? Imagine those. There's no heaven? Yeah. Remember that one?

I think older people kind of like, some of them like it because they go, yeah, well, good for him. There's a lot of older people that don't want to step down.

Like when white guys want a white heavyweight boxing champion.

That's exactly right. And there's a lot of old people that go, I'm not going to retire. Right. I'm not going to step down. I don't want to go into assisted living.

He made that pie till the day he died.

Yeah.

Till the day he died. Yeah. He was 102 years old. He put the basil on, dropped dead. Yeah.

I think they want, they look at this guy and they say, good for him. He's one of us.

There's a little bit of that going on.

He's one of us.

I definitely think there's a little bit of that going on. I don't think that's...

Trump will beat him, I think, from jail.

Yeah, 100%.

Trump will win.

Yeah, but I don't know if it's real. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, look, I don't want to cry election fraud, but why would I imagine that they would manipulate everything openly except the election? But this is what I, you know what I'm saying?

But this is what I'm saying to you. Is it not possible that they haven't gone off Joe Biden because there was some fuckery in the last election?

Well.

Is it not possible, to some degree, that they have this rabid insistence on this clearly dementia-ridden guy, because their promises have been made and there are people in positions of power that could speak? I don't know anything. I'm just...

That's a possibility. I'm just... It's just a guess, right? Who knows?

I'm just asking the kinds of questions that people on Twitter will call me a name for asking, but.

Well, you got to stop reading that. Yeah, true. That's... I don't read it. Boy, that's a nice...

I'm not on it as much.

You feel so much better. Lex goes into a dark hole every few days.

I know. Well, it's, you know...

I hope he doesn't read the stuff about the Kevin Spacey interview. Life is dark.

Oh, he's interviewing Spacey?

He already did, yeah.

God damn it. We wanted Spacey. You can get Spacey. I wanted Spacey.

You can get Spacey.

I know, but then I'm the fifth person to have Spacey.

Listen, you'll be the most fun.

I know Weinstein's coming here first. I know you're going to have him as soon as he gets out of jail.

He's never getting out of jail.

I hope he does.

I don't think he's ever getting out of jail.

By the way, he should.

Isn't he in jail for the rest of his life?

No, it's turning around, Joe.

What do you mean?

It's turning around.

What are you talking about?

Oh, you don't know?

What? What's going on?

They just overturned all of his convictions.

What?

Well, get some of what I'm.

Are you fucking kidding me?

I'm telling you. Something like that. The prosecutors in the Harvey Weinstein case were encouraging the, whatever you want to call them, right?

The people.

The victims. And yes, they are victims, but she was encouraging them to just... When I was a juror on a murder trial, and you're instructed as a juror, this was years ago, but you're instructed to only consider the facts of the case. You can only discuss the facts of the case. These victims were out there, and they were permitted and encouraged by a very overzealous prosecutor to share things that weren't related to the case.

Wednesday's hearing ahead of Weinstein's retrial comes just over a month after the New York Court of Appeals, by a four to three vote, ruled the testimony of prior bad acts, witnesses, should not have been allowed because it was unnecessary to establish defendant's intent and served only to establish defendant's propensity to commit the crimes charged. He was convicted in the 2020 of first degree criminal sexual assault and third degree rape, and then he was sentenced to 23 years in prison. He has maintained his innocence. So what are they saying now? A retrial.

They're going to do a retrial. Wow.

How old is he now? Because he looked fucking terrible before he was going into jail. He was walking around with a cane and a walker.

He's in his early 70s, but this is when directors do their best work.

But he's not a director.

Right. Producers, whatever. I have, confidence in him is what I'm saying.

You think he's going to get out and kick some ass?

Well, I think he gets out. He's got a lot to prove.

Do you think they'll let him work? They're not even letting...

Hollywood believes in nothing. They will absolutely let him work. They will let him work, and he should work. if they... Listen, if the retrial happens, and they let him, and it doesn't work, it is what it is.

Imagine if he gets out. Imagine if it was all bullshit.

Well, I don't know how.

It couldn't be.

That time that we lived through was so.

Oh, right. I'm not saying... You mean the time with me, too. Exactly. Yeah.

Everything that got.

What originally happened, it says here he had a separate 16-year sentence that is not affected by this decision in California. Oh, so there's another case which he was also sentenced to. The New York trial has been... So he'll be transferred to a California prison? Oh, he's fucked.

He looked exactly like the guy that behaved, the way that he behaved.

Yes. Yes. Like Dave... Chappelle had a bit about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, let's say this, though.

Making people famous.

We think that's negative. But let's say him, upholding his end of the deal is something. Like if he puts you in the movie. I think a lot of these, by the way, all of the famous people he did it to didn't really come out against him.

No, because they can't. Because then, if they tell the truth. Yeah.

They were kind of, because that was kind of a deal that was made. Not good. But that was a deal. And he made good on some of those promises.

He made good on a lot of them, apparently. This is just from what I heard. But Tarantino was telling us about this old school Hollywood producer who had a bedroom in his office. So you would go into his office, and this is like in the 60s or whatever. So he had his office, and then he had a whole bedroom in his studio.

That's always been there. It's always been there. It's like why people start cults. Yeah. They always end up being sex cults, right?

100% of the time.

All of these guys on Netflix. It ends up being creepy and sexual. All of them. That's part of it. And I think, if you have that kind of power, and people, and you've got a steady stream of people walking in your door.

Yeah. And you are also doing this very specific thing where you're choosing the most beautiful people to be in these incredible, incredible films. Right. I mean, think about the movies that fucking guy made. Kill Bill.

Some of the best in the world.

Pulp Fiction. You just go down the line. Let him out. So many times I've seen a movie. Oh, Miramax.

Of course. Yeah.

They made insane movies.

And they were like the Weinstein Company. They were the best. Yeah. Some of the best. And they just did it with the devil.

All of it's not good.

All of it's not good.

I mean, even if it's like your neighbor's daughter. Yes. And you've known her since she was two. And then you wind up marrying her. That's kind of crazy.

It's not great.

You were an adult with children and your neighbor had a daughter. But then again, you know, part of your brain goes, okay. But, like, what if you really were in love? Like, what, if really she really was the next door neighbor and really you were 60 and she was 30 and she loved you? Right.

Or if your wife had adopted her from Cambodia.

That makes it more complicated.

And you raised her but loved her still.

That's the next level. That is not ideal. That you can't. Yeah, well, say that. You can't.

It's not ideal.

You can look at the neighbor and say, well, maybe you weren't close with the neighbor's daughter. Now she's a grown woman. She has agency. She's a woman. She loves you.

But you know what's funny about.

But you can't say that about a kid that you fucking raised.

You can't marry a kid you raised.

No.

You can't marry a kid you raised.

But did he raise her? Did he see her, like, every couple days? I don't know.

Whichever. However, we can still watch Annie Hall. I can't. Is there any way to still watch Annie Hall? No.

You can, but you're going to know the whole time. It's like watching House of Cards. You're like, what?

Yeah, but I can watch House of Cards because he's playing the guy. he was. Right. That's perfect.

Right. I like that.

Kevin Spacey doesn't even exist. He's barely a person. He's such a good actor. He's become the thing. He always plays people kind of like that.

There is an arrogance that some stars had, like, particularly in the 90s. When I first came to Hollywood, and this is, like, really evident for me, because I was not a star. But I was on a television show. So I got to be around a lot of stars. And there was a way that some of them would treat you.

Interesting.

So, I think, if you're like an old school dick grabber. And you're also a Hollywood icon. Right. You know, you probably are doing that. You're probably doing that Hollywood thing where everybody else is just there for you.

Should we maybe wall off Hollywood and just go, listen.

Let them go wild.

They're just all sexual predators.

Like Jurassic Park.

It's Jurassic Park. Can't we do that? Can't we say, enter at your own risk. They make great movies. But occasionally they're going to goose you.

No. I mean, Ron Howard seems to be really nice and good.

But I watched a Spacey documentary, by the way. And some of it is like, okay, he's clearly did the wrong thing. And then some of it, these guys are like, because they wanted things from him. They're like, we went to the movies and he started jerking off next to me. It's like, okay, dude.

Right.

Because you're trying to climb on the basis of knowing this guy.

You are playing the game.

That's right.

You're playing the game.

You're playing the game.

You're dancing with the devil.

You're dancing with the devil.

You're going to lunch with Harvey.

You're going to lunch with Harvey. You want it. So to me, it's like they're not sympathetic in the way that other people are. Whether it's sexual assault in the military or in the workplace or whatever. Where people are not actively trying to better their chances of being famous by knowing this guy.

Right. It's a complicated thing with Spacey, right? Because apparently some of the alleged people are like people that he worked with. You know, like a grip on a set or a guy who has to drive him. He was just wild.

Right. And then some of those people died before they could testify.

Do you think you could play a guy like Frank Underwood if there's not a little bit of that inside of you somewhere?

No.

Oh my God. This is true. Oh my God.

And his father was all of Twitter. But no, he was a Nazi pedophile. It's true. He would rape them and make them watch the Nazi stuff. I know I sound like I'm lying a lot, and I am a lot, but this is true.

Oh God.

His brother is a Rod Stewart impersonator.

Oh God.

It wasn't great the way that it went, for anybody over there. Jesus Christ.

According to Kevin Spacey, he was raised by a relentlessly abusive neo-Nazi father. Wow. Spent his dinners making anti-Semitic comments, which terrified his children. Wow.

Yes, and worse than beating and raping them, he was anti-Semitic. Wow. So he was really bad.

Does that say that in here? The raping part?

I believe, from what I know.

That's his brother? The Rod Stewart impression?

That he was a very abusive.

Damn, his brother's fucking got it nailed.

The brother is really dialed.

Boy, if I saw that dude.

Look at this. He alleges his father frequently raped him. I mean, I'm not making it up.

It's terrible. Alleges. his father frequently raped and beat him. Oh, why didn't they put that in the title? Like, just the anti-Semitic comments, that seems like the least of the problems.

For the way they grew up, let's be charitable, they turned out good.

Right. They turned out well. The guy won multiple Academy Awards.

He's a very talented man, and his brother, I'm sure, does a great Maggie Mae.

Yeah.

It's interesting. For the way they were raised. Everybody has to be judged a little bit with a backstory.

I love that Lex Friedman has the courage to interview anybody.

Well, Lex is one of those guys who genuinely is like, you know, he knows what his intentions are. Yes. And he's very comfortable with himself, and that's why he can talk to all these people.

Yeah.

Because he's always coming from a good place.

Always. Even Kanye, in the heat of everything, Lex had him on. Yeah.

No.

And Bill Maher did whole episodes, and I'm not releasing it.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

I would get you in here with Kanye, but it would probably turn bad because you talk too much. I know. With Kanye, you've got to let him talk.

I know.

Because there was moments where I was talking. I let him talk. There was moments where I was talking, Kanye was like.

He's a genius. And what you have to realize with people that are incredibly gifted is a lot of that comes with some real downsides. Yeah. And they can't be judged. maybe the same way you judge every other person.

I know that that sounds bad. They've got to follow the laws. You can't be out there murdering people.

They can't do that. They've got to follow the laws. But if he goes and says something crazy, you've got to look at what you've gotten from him and all of this great music. Let him have a tirade every now and then.

Just let him have a little. Well, it's like he's his own enemy.

Yeah.

The rants just go.

I know.

They just come flying out. And who knows how much of it he's really been committed to until he says it. And then, once he's saying it, then he's really committed. And then he puts – he shows up statistics. Like he held up this thing about – it was showing on his phone all of the different people that are running all the different music companies and how many of them are Jewish.

Right.

He's like. they run the media. They run this. They run that. Like, okay.

Jews seem to have made better choices than the Irish.

My people. Well, they're really good at running show business. Yeah.

I can't point to any list of people and go, and they're all – there's not one group. And go, and look, and McDonough and O'Brien.

Right, right. Like Italians. Like my people. What other than food?

Someone said – a teacher I had in community college, you take it with a grain of salt, but said that Italians were very focused on the family and they were skeptical of institutions. So they started small businesses, whereas Jewish people were more open to institutions, and that's why a lot of them are overrepresented in academia, politics, and media.

Well, Italians are fleeing communism, too.

Right. So Italians are skeptical of the government. They were skeptical. And they wanted to have their, you know, little pork stores and stuff.

And that's cool. And it's also Catholic, very family-oriented. You know, if you date an Italian girl, you've got to meet everybody. That's right. You can't be just showing up at her house like some regular white guy.

And the Irish were drunks and sexually abused. A little bit. And they did the best they could.

They did the best they could. Made good boxers.

Everyone's doing the best they can.

Well, we're all coming out of chaos. Yeah. You know, the reality of human beings in this country is this fucking country is three people's old. Right. That's it.

Right.

You know? That's real.

Yeah.

That's the difference. Yeah. You know, like, we don't have our shit together yet. And we started off with a really good idea that didn't anticipate technology. And then technology got involved in terms of, like, stock trading.

And now they have an idea where everyone can kind of be a dictator. So that's not the worst idea. You can be a little dictator.

Well, what they really didn't anticipate is the power that technology companies have.

Yeah.

That's what's-.

They own your thoughts, dreams, hopes. Everything. Fears. Mm-hmm. They have burrowed into your life more than any of the robber barons could, more than any of those guys.

They've gotten insanely wealthy just from your data.

Absolutely.

And then, convincing you, you have to buy a new phone every year.

And they're helping you. Yeah. And that's the scary part, right? They're utopians and they believe they're creating a truly better world.

And they're helping you. And they're helping you. And they make your life better.

And they make your life better, and you do. And these are things that make your life more convenient and easier. I don't get it.

How great is Google Maps or Waze?

So when they tell you it's more convenient to just not have this discussion or not be able to say a certain term or not be able to- Then you-.

You just comply.

You comply and you go, okay.

I don't want to start any trouble.

I don't want to start an issue. I like Postmates.

Yeah.

Or whatever it is.

I like Airbnb.

Well, sure.

I met one of the guys. Who the fuck?

Well, someone, I don't know if it was you, but someone said, and this is really nice, someone tried to get me back and they were like, no. Someone met a big guy and it might have been you.

I think it was me. Yeah.

Somebody was like, what about getting a guy like Tim Dillon back on? And they were like, no.

They're fucking up. They're making a big mistake.

Well, that issue that I had was all about the redundancy of cleaning fees. Why would I pay a fee and then clean? Yeah. This has now become a rallying call for millions of brave Americans to hold Airbnb accountable for what they've been doing. Forget the trafficking.

Also, someone had an interesting scam where they were renting a house and they were using that house as an Airbnb house. Of course. They're probably making money off of the rental. That's right. You think about how much a house costs to rent.

I don't know. It's been years. Back in the day. It's about $400..

Yeah, so you would probably make a lot of money.

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

You could pay your mortgage easy and then you could do that with multiple houses and you got income constantly coming in.

I think they interviewed the CEO recently. They interviewed him and he was basically like, listen, we're trying to design your trips. They're trying to figure out ways to get competitive again, because they're like, we know people are going back to hotels. We know it's gotten too expensive.

Is that what it is?

Yeah, it's gotten too expensive. People are like, we don't understand why we'd pay all of this money to have all of these rules when we could just go to a hotel. It's easy.

Right.

And we don't have to worry about paying. You get a report card. Airbnb is a report card. Nobody wants that on a trip.

You get a report card for like how good you did or bad you did. Whether or not you made a mess.

People writing reviews about you. Is that fun? You go on a vacation. Somebody's going to write a review. Some psychopath.

Oh, so, like you could like take a giant shit and forget to flush it. And then.

It's over. Then they trash it.

Just a simple mistake.

A simple mistake. And stay out of people's homes. This is the real reality. Yeah. Stay out of people.

Yeah.

You can't get a hotel. You cannot stay with a friend. And you don't need to get an Airbnb with seven people. Yeah.

I always get weirded out when people like to just stay with different friends in every town. Do you like being annoying? Yeah.

That's done. now. You can't stay with anyone anymore. You go to a hotel. That's nice.

It's kind of crazy that Airbnb, that's another thing that popped up out of nowhere, that nobody saw coming. That was a disruptor. That, and Uber, right? Yeah. Uber was a big one.

Well, it coincided with, like this, rise of the gig economy, where people are like, I can work. I own a car. I can work. And I can make money through this app.

And you can not have a boss. boss. Exactly. Like. one of the things I loved about delivering newspapers when I was a kid was I did it when I was in my teens and 20s.

And they're having fun. Some of those guys are having fun all day, listening to hateful podcasts.

Perhaps mine. Listen to this.

Listening to smoking cigs in their car.

People listening to this right now. Yeah.

People listening to it right now going, I'm enjoying my life. I'm having fun.

Somewhere. there's someone in the backseat going, fucking Tim Dillon. Shut up.

Shut up. I hate his stupid voice.

What he did to Meghan McCain was so rude.

What he did to all of these people.

All of these innocent people. Innocent. So fucking rude.

Innocent, good billionaire.

Speaking of innocent, did you see Fauci? Did you see the-?

When he came out?

Did you see the-.

The leaked tapes?

Oh, not just the leaked tapes, but him getting grilled in Congress.

Oh, I didn't see it.

Oh, my God.

Was it bad? Was it brutal?

It's horrible. Yeah. I think Jim Jordan got him lying under oath. He's just, no matter what they catch him with, he tries to find a way to weasel out of saying that. he said that.

It seems to be, again, it's the gaslighting thing where people go, we can just now come out and say that we never actually said any of that.

It's crazy him saying that, though. Not just saying that, but even when they catch him saying that, that's not what I was referring to. Right. That's exactly what you were referring to. Exactly.

There should be a commission on this whole thing, but just like the 9-11 commission would probably be set up to fail. That's what the commissioner said. That's not what I'm saying.

Even if Trump gets into office, how could it be? Because he was the guy. Right. He put Warp Speed in place.

That's right.

Fauci was behind him at press conferences.

I think that's his biggest vulnerability, ironically, Trump, is that a lot of people don't trust him because of that period. Well, he hasn't-.

He hasn't corrected course. Right. Because it's very difficult for him to ever say that he's wrong, right?

He doesn't like saying he's wrong.

For him to correct course, for him to look at the studies that are coming out of the UK and Europe about excess deaths and where they're a little bit more honest about what the fuck is going on, because they have socialized medicine. Right. There's a lot more going on over there than is going on over here.

There's so much about protecting pharma here.

Yeah, but so much money. Right. I mean, so much money invested in advertising. Right. I mean, everything gets advertised by it, whether it's internet shows.

They're actors. Yeah.

They're doing what they're.