Tracee Ellis Ross Returns

Hi, my name is Tracee Ellis Ross and I feel.

Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell, brand new shoes, walking blues, climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends.

We've made friends. Yeah, we're friends. No, we've made friends too with some of the guests and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, so we're doing great.

That's right, it's funny, too. They're constantly texting you guys and I'm left out in the cold. Yeah, Harrison Ford and I are at Chipotle most days. What is he like to get at Chipotle? The bowl, the bowl, I love the bowl and then get off my plane.

I do, I'm a big texter.

Yeah, you're texting with a bunch of different celebrities.

I'm trying to think of someone, Hillary Clinton.

You're such a bad liar.

Laundromat, laundromat.

Laundromat I'm asking them if I was there, laundromat. What do you think, laundromat?

I am a bad liar, though, for real.

You are. Sona is one of the most honest people I've ever met, she can't lie. Which has caused major problems for us at times. Because you've told me flat out what you thought of the show or how I did on something, but it's good. I need to know the truth.

Yeah, so I mean, Hillary Clinton and I are just like, we're tight.

What do you guys do?

We go to Magic Mountain.

Wow.

She loves Magic Mountain.

She loves it.

Not what I expected.

She loves roller coasters.

Oh good, you like the one that goes upside down, yeah.

She likes that one.

She likes Riddler's revenge.

She loves Riddler's revenge, she loves Superman, she loves Goliath.

She loves Don't put question marks after these. Why are you putting your finger on your lip like a Hitler mustache? I know, I know it's so funny.

But we go to six flags. She's a corn dog.

She did the podcast, Hillary Clinton did the podcast, and I got the sense that she is a lot of fun. I got the impression that you did. Yes, no, I did.

I don't want to say anything, but I don't know fun.

She is, No, I'm not kidding. And I've heard from a lot of people. That she's a lot of fun when you get away from politics and everything, that she's lots of fun, that she enjoys herself.

I figured she just likes going on long walks, which I feel like is a lot of people just like going on long walks.

Just long, not a hard g.

Don't do that, Conan.

Do you hear it? Do you hear it? Yeah, I hear it. well, you heard it, too. I'm not judging it.

It is.

There's a G at the end of it, yeah, but listen.

It's like a speed bump, you just want to glide over that long slide, but then you go long and then long and the car goes over a little.

I don't think you understand how much this upsets me.

Oh, this is like the king's speech, Yeah, how do you pronounce this word? Sign idiot?

King.

Really, no king, king, it's just king.

Yes, it does.

If you look in the library, I mean in the dictionary.

If you look at dictionaries, they do tell you how to pronounce it.

It tells you the pronunciation, and the pronunciation has a G at the end.

Yeah, but I think when you use what is it, the IPA, the International Phonetic alphabet, would tell you that that's not a I'm checking a metric-.

I want you guys to check that right now. Guess what?

I'm checking a metric that only I have. We are shedding listeners like crazy, we are shedding listeners like crazy. The minute we start talking about the name of the phonetic symbol in the OED.

I think you need to prove this that you guys are saying it correctly and I'm saying it incorrectly.

I'm working on it. Okay, yeah, but listen, this doesn't come from a place of bullying or anything. Yes, it does well for me, it does.

I feel bad I called you an idiot.

No, you shouldn't, because I feel like it seems like I'm coming down on you when that is the last thing I want to do, because you're, you know.

How did you think I was going to pronounce sign?

I was genuinely curious, I wanted to hear if you would do sign see.

Now you get angry at me for calling you an idiot, and you wrote the word sign, and you were like, How do you pronounce sign?

I didn't get angry with you calling me an idiot. I agree, okay.

I don't like this.

Remember the time I wrote, Kick me and put it on your back, and you got really mad and you said, Who put this signi on me? That's funny because it's a callback, just something that just happened, which means it's not a callback.

King king.

You know what, it's both, it's in between, I have to say, and I don't like saying this. They're closer to Sona than they are to us. No, I'd say it's midpoint, because she's not saying G, she's saying King.

I'm not doing king-a, that's the UK pronunciation.

Here's the U.S. king, you know what I wish it said on the U.S. it's America. We don't have a fucking king.

Well, you guys are lazy, so you don't pronounce all the letters.

That's what we learned. Sona. We just went on this fancy speaking app and it told us I don't know. It was in the middle. And so I think I say that I forgive you and I apologize.

I did not apologize, and I accept your apology. Wait, and you're forgiven.

Wait, I said, I forgive you, and then you said, I don't apologize. What does that mean?

Why are you forgiving me if I didn't apologize?

The bigger concern is that for the last three recordings, you and I have been on the same side and I don't know what to do about this. This is the beginning, as they say, at the end of Casablanca, of a wonderful new friendship. I don't think that's exactly right. It's not wonderful now, fans are going to write in, It's not wonderful. I think it's beautiful.

Such hostility, you're so hostile.

Oh, you don't have to be walking down the street on your way to buy some starbursts at Walgreens when someone's like.

Excuse me, but you misquoted the end of Casablanca. And then suddenly I'm in a knife fight when all I wanted was some starbursts. Do you have a knife?

He has a knife and I have a knife, and then you hear the West Side story music playing. It's knife. yeah, it's knife. My guest today starting the hit ABC series Black-ish. Now, you can see her in the new movie Cold Copy, which is in theaters and available on demand.

Yeah, but now I get to be in the padded room with you.

Exactly this is the nice room, the really good room that we hadn't built before. But I'll tell you something, you came in here in such a ray of sunshine. Seriously, your personality. Whenever I'm around you, I feel like I'm having really good, expensive coffee. My heart starts to beat faster.

You know, my real middle name is Tracy Joy. Tracy Joy. Silberstein is my name. Yeah, and I cannot drink coffee or eat sugar. I do the sugar thing, but I had a cup of coffee once in high school, took two sips. It was in exams, we were in the gym. Thirty seconds later, I was like, What is happening?

The thing is, you don't need it. No, because you came in here and first of all, you came into the studio first. I'm following you and I just hear laughter and everyone's in a good mood. Then I come in, things quickly settle, yeah.

Everybody agrees.

Everybody's like, Hmm, okay, but it's out of respect, right, right, yeah.

Different, different.

You always have terrific energy, you really do like you emanate, and that was true all your life, I'm guessing.

I think so, I'm surprised it's happening now because I am not sleeping well, but I seem to have. I'm glad to hear that, though.

But for good reason, too, you got a call.-.

I got a call this morning, yeah.

This morning that you're in an Oscar-nominated film.

Yeah, I feel really jazzed about that.

American fiction.

American fiction. I feel very proud to be in this film and we got five Oscar nominations today and the men who play my brothers in the movie. Sterling K. Brown and Jeffrey Wright both got nominated supporting a lead actor. And, you know, they say you're only as good as your scene partner.

Yes, so it's mine. Yeah, those are your Oscars.

Those are my nominations and I feel good about it, about my work.

Yes, you should.

Have you seen the film?

I have not seen the film yet, I have not seen the film yet, but I've heard terrific things about it.

I'm very proud to be in this film, it's a really lovely, hilarious. And also as an artist or anyone in the industry, you'll be like, Oh, this is good. But it's also a family comedy at the core, it's a story about a family.

I am not in this section of show business, I don't even know if I'm in any section of show business anymore.

Is that the way they do it? They section it out.

Well, they did early on, they said, you will never be Oscar-nominated, you will never be in a film. No, no, no.

It is like, Christmas. I mean, it's happened before when I was nominated for an Emmy and things like that. You turn your phone on. The best is if you cannot remember, that is the best, so it's a surprise.

That's nice, it's nice to kind of not know. I like to be surprised by good news whenever I expect good news. It doesn't come, it just doesn't.

Or, when it comes, even if it's good news, it doesn't quite match up to your imagination, right? And you're like, Aw, that was nice, but not what I wanted.

I like how you got really quiet there.

What do they call this? ASMR, ASMR? Yeah, that's so annoying.

Yeah, but it's very I like this now.

It's not for me.

Really, I like this, I like that people, people....

Does it make you sleep? No, it just calms me down, like when people are cooking and they're chopping.

Really, yeah.

I like that people listening in their cars right now are leaning over to turn up the volume, taking their eye off the road.

Yeah, and it's like, No, it's not you, it's us. You're doing fine, you're driving fine, your ears are fine. Don't go to the doctor.

Actually, go to the doctor.

Go to the doctor.

And then maybe they'll call you in the morning.

They'll text you and they'll just say, Are you alive?

So you had this is a good day for you.

It's a good day.

But I get the feeling you had a lot of good days, things are humming along pretty well for you.

Do you know what? A friend of mine said? She said, You're a human having a pretty pleasurable experience, and I said, You know what? That is very true. It's a nice way to kind of frame it.

You like getting older?

I do like getting older.

You know what, I'm going to agree with you on that, I do, too.

It's much better I wouldn't go back to my 20s if you paid me.

I can see why there are people who are amazing athletes and they feel sad about the loss of their athleticism. I got them beat because I was never a good athlete. And also, you know, I look at pictures of me when I was young and I wasn't hideous. But also I didn't stop traffic, so nothing. People weren't like, I got to ride that horse.

No, nuh-uh, pick a different phrase, I know what? no.

So I was waiting for some woman to say that to me, and they never did, because it's not an expression. Well, try it in ASMR, though. I got to ride that horse, I got to ride that horse.

Oh God, he's now using Kit Kat commercials.

I don't know.

By the way, are we all of the age that we knew the peppermint patty commercials? That was the best when he went skiing, when he broke open the peppermint patty? Oh yes.

Oh, and then, yes, we all watched the same TV, yeah.

We did then.

Because there were three channels now, I don't want young people listening like enough already, old man. But there were three stations and you had to wake up before you went to bed.

The rain was dry.

That's what I said to someone the other day.

I said, If you don't know when the 90s were, they were before.

I did have a thing where I told my kids the other day that once there were so few, there were only three channels or something. And then there was one UHF station. There was literally nothing on but snow, yeah.

Just sitting there, in silence.

Yeah, oh, that's kind of a cool chalice.

And then back to what would happen? Then you would turn on the TV and it would snow, it was snow.

Yes, just snow.

You would just get snow and you were lucky. If you got lines. The lines meant something might come in, there might be a show coming in.

And if you move the antenna around?

Put some tinfoil on there.

But it's funny. I contrast that now with we all have a million options. And I just sit there and I'm like, Hmm, you can't find anything. But I used to watch a Catholic mass that was in Providence, Rhode Island, just because it came in.

It's insane, by the way. I had not watched the wire back then, and during the pandemic, I watched it. My God, is that a series? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what's funny? This is why I think sometimes that we're in a golden age of entertainment. People are always moaning about how life isn't as good now in one way or another, or how the world's all going downhill. And I think, I have to say, I think the good television is better than anything that existed when I was a kid. Great movies are amazing.

Did you see anatomy of the fall?

Yes, I did. I watched that the other night.

I thought that was incredible.

With my wife and I went in not knowing anything, I didn't know anything either. She said. You should watch this, and I said, Don't you tell me what to do?

That went well.

This is heading towards the plot of anatomy of the fall.

I was riveted.

And then I was angry because we had agreed to meet a friend and she started the movie. And let's say the movie's an hour and 45 minutes, an hour and 30 minutes in, she said. We have to stop and go pick up our friend.

Oh my god.

But it still held up. It worked out when we got home.

I thought that was a riveting, riveting, fantastic movie, and it was interesting to me to watch a movie that, in essence, is really small, but felt so big. It was just so well done.

Well, it's about so much.

Oh God, I really.

Can you watch yourself?

Absolutely.

Refreshing.

As much as possible.

I love that.

That's fantastic. Yeah, I'm very comfortable watching myself.

That's great.

I like watching my work back for numerous reasons, particularly on black-ish and stuff, being able to see how something's being shot, what's being covered, what's working.

It feels to me like, I just love that, my.

It does dumb things, and I'm not, because, you know, you look at some actresses sometimes and the camera comes back to them and they're like.

I wonder if having growing up with such an iconic mom in music and singer, and I mean, it's just an end in movies. If you knew early on. Oh, I can be really funny in a way that sets me apart, it's my thing.

You know, in one sense, it wasn't on purpose, it wasn't a conscious sort of shift. But like, when I was 22, my mom said to me, It's time for you to record an album. Because I sang all through growing up and I was like, No way.

Right?

How's that going?

Risk treatments. It's more expensive than I thought.

Yeah, it's like skiing, yeah.

Well, it's funny, because one of the things you said that I can relate to is I love. One of the things I've always loved about comedy is there's no vanity. I love it so much. I'll admit there are some times lately with high-def cameras. And as I age, where I'm like, Oh my god, couldn't someone have told me that? Half my face rotted off before we shot that thing? But mostly, couldn't they have taped that up a little bit before I went out there?

Or put some vaseline on the screen on my leg. Yeah, exactly.

But mostly, I know that if people like what I'm doing, it's not because they want to break off a chunk of that. They're just, I'm sorry. That's a phrase that's going to stick.

Ride that horse.

I want to ride that horse and then break off a chunk. Just no, just no.

I'm going to have nightmares.

Okay, sorry, well, that's what I do for women.

No, Jesus.

But I like the surrendering of vanity, that goes a lot with comedy, I love it so much. And you know, you referenced Lucille Ball, and what people often forget and you don't think about it is you and Lucille Ball are very beautiful women who then do comedy really well. And so there's this thing where you can, I mean, Lucille Ball was stunningly glamorous, but felt nothing about. Oh yeah, put a prosthetic nose on and let's have it catch fire.

I think there's also, for me, like, a sense of pure freedom, where, like, every choice is yours. And that for me, that it's like, literally from my little toe to the hairs on my head. Get to participate in the thing I'm doing, and I do love that. There's no vanity involved, there really isn't. For me, I think the uglier I look, the better I think it is.

It was you. Natasha Lyonne recreating the chocolate conveyor belt at the Emmys.

I do believe I literally before we went on stage, I was like, I mean, the little girl in me was jumping up and down, She was like, so excited.

It was fantastic.

I stuffed a lot of chocolate in my gown, in my little dress. It was dropping out while I was reading the presentation. Because it has to be, yeah.

There's just a trail of chocolate following you wherever you go. I was thinking about Amy Sedaris, who is also. She's a very attractive person who goes out of her way and has her whole life to tape up her nose. Do anything. She could wear old ladies clothes. She was doing this when she was a kid. And it would drive her mother crazy. Because her mother was saying, You're an attractive young woman, what are you doing?

My mom would always say, fix your face, why are you making all those? I would be telling a story and she would like touch between my eyes and be like, I'm like, I'm trying to tell a story. Sorry, Amy Sedaris No, it's the same.

I'm just, I mean, you're poor mom.

I have two great stories on that.

There's this on this podcast, we never get to great stories. I won't allow it.

No, no, I'm going to say I have one, but I'm not going to tell it you guys, I have two great funny stories.

Yeah, yeah, there's no time anyway. So the other day I'm having this beef stew and this beef stew –.

It had beef in it, you guys.

It had beef in it. Who knew? All right, Go, go tell us these. But I mean, talking about, we were talking about contorting your faces.

And parents and parents freaking out moms responses. So one was my grandmother used to say that it was Tracy. Had the 12-year-old, the 10-year-old, giggles the 11-year-old. And then it was just like, Okay, they're not going anywhere. And so I was like, I was just like getting out of my body.

I couldn't get it out.

I was like, it's dinner time.

And it would drive my sister crazy. Rhonda was like, Oh, my god. And my mom was like, Tracy, would you like to go outside and get the giggles out? And I would be like, I would, I would like to go outside and get the giggles out.

And I'm like, na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.

And I'd come back in and I'd be like, and she'd be like, Did you get them out? I'd be like, I don't know. No, I think there's more and I'd go back out, go back. So that's one story.

Ain't no mountain high enough?

What the boss, no one, none of it.

Central Park Concert, that was my idea.

That was your idea?

So when I moved out here to L.

I can't do this.

She was so serious. How many of those videos did you send out? I said 52, and she was like, Can we get them back?

Oh, I was like.

What? No. I think she literally was like, This is a comment on my parenting, like I failed my child and she has sent out.

Like a calling card.

Of like, the failed parenting.

Oh my god.

She later understood, But I do think it was a little bit like, what have I done? like it was going to end up.

On inside edition of What is Diana Ross doing to her children?

Her children, like the other ones, are fine.

Cost her to do 35 characters.

Anyway, it changed my career, it launched me into, you know, people are like, Oh, is that who you are?

Is it true that you have, because you do all these characters, that you have photographs of them? yeah, do you have photographs of your other personas, like Framed?

Yes.

I'm in a temporary place right now and as you walk in, it's lined up, it's like the wall of Tracy. Like all the versions of me, there's Madame e Verre is a really special one that I have performed as done things as.

No knowledge of French, the French language.

She's actually from Detroit, but she, but she does –.

That's a great idea, yeah.

But she is very connected to the French accent.

I treat.

Which part made you laugh hard? My mother? No, the Detroit part.

She's from Detroit.

But has a big French accent.

I'm curious about something because you did your first big success, which is Girlfriends, right? You're doing that show and then that show ends. And I always thought, right, you went right into Black-ish.

Oh god, no.

And that's how other people can experience your career. Like, when I think about you, I think of, just, Oh, I. Since the first time I heard your name, you've been a success. But there was a but seriously, that's how it can feel to other people. And there was like a six-year gap or something between girlfriend and black and Black-ish. Because when you're when I'm around you, it just seems so obvious that there should be a camera on you all the time.

I agree.

I'm a person.

Who doesn't pop?

I'm a non-popping person, you need to pop as an actor.

You gotta pop, I couldn't pop.

Isn't it crazy, though, how when time goes by and then you look at those statements?

Yeah, I remember there's a couple, you know, we all have them. I think my mom has one, like, everybody's got them.

I love that you.

You were one of the first like late-night shows that I went on. But I remember when I was on Girlfriends, I could not get on a late-night show. And I remember the Tonight show. It was Jay Leno at the time and the talent booker. I will never forget what she said because I asked her, I was like, You have to tell me.

There's a very frustrating thing. I got out here and I remember there was this catch-22 of, Well, you can't get a job. You can't get a job as a writer unless you're you have an agent, and no agent wants to see you unless you have a job.

It's insane.

And you can't get a job if you're not in the union, but the union won't give let you in the union unless you have a job. Yes, and so I remember thinking, there's really, this is impossible, and there are these things that you encounter early on.

Yeah, it's it was. The realization of some of those things were fascinating. I remember on Blackish, I went to do my first looping session, my first ADR session. And the sound guy, they had said, you know, he's a very famous sound guy, he's done all the shows.

No, but I, but I Jesus. He's wrong about every single thing.

I was like.

My god, I've got to go look up this show. I was like, Yeah.

You should just go look it up, oh my god, maybe you should shut up, I was like.

My god, yeah. It's a fascinating the industry is, you know, it is, but it is also interesting to think of how it's changed. I mean, you know, growing up and having three networks or whatever it was, and then all of a sudden you get a new one. There was UPN and you know what I mean, and now it's just I don't even know where to go. To find things, I have to google the name of the show that someone told me.

I will often figure out where it is the thing I want to see, and then I will go to that streamer that I know that we are signed up for. Yes, but it will say no. I'm not letting you in unless you give me the 75 different passcodes, and my wife knows those, and I don't. And often I crumple to my knees and a camera lifts up to the ceiling and I go.

No.

Like, God himself has betrayed me, and it's just like, No, oh my God, text your wife. No, she doesn't allow that.

I take the remote and I'm like, ugh.

I just get so angry.

I'm like, I just want to watch the show.

Like, but you can't get in.

Yeah, I know they already have my money, they already have my money, I signed up.

Or it says, you don't have that version of I'm like, What do you mean?

I I swear to God.

I paid the version, I don't, I did it last time, I can't. Where's the show?

I love, I hate it, I love knowing that nobody escapes this. It's insane. The thing that I love is nobody escapes it. And, uh, I remembered, uh, once talking to President Obama on this podcast, and he was, I don't know if it was even off mic. But he started talking about how he remembered being in the Oval Office. And like, they couldn't get the phone to work, and like, two people came in and like, you're the, you're in the Oval Office.

Barack, Barack.

Be Barack, it's ck, not just a k, just ck ck.

Representative Press one, Yes.

Are you a sitting president press one? They even have a whole president section.

And then you try and have someone else do it. I'm so sorry, we'll have to speak to the actual person.

No, it's so funny because it made me happy. And then when I talked to Biden recently and he invited me into the Oval Office, all I could do was stare at the phone.

And guess what?

It looks like a phone anywhere. But what if Biden, of all people, was super tech-savvy?

It's all on an app.

Check it out.

He's like, I control it from my phone. Yeah, no, no, no.

I made an app, you made an app. Are you familiar with Oculus Rift?

I wish that would stop, I really do.

Hey, you know, 99.

You never know I'm open.

You're talking about that feeling of through all these years, where you're saying, Hey, I'm Tracee Ellis Ross. I know I'm really good. And then there's that moment, Well, hold on, maybe you weren't saying that.

Then you look back.

Then you look back later on and it all kind of happened the way maybe it was going to happen. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe that's too nice a view of it.

I don't know, I mean, the thing that I find fascinating is how long it felt while it was happening, and when you look back how fast it was. Because when you're 51, you know, I remember as a kid that three months for summer break seemed like an eternity. It was like three months.

You must have known that you had something really good to offer, no?

I hoped I did, and I think it took me a long time to realize that I did. I knew I was something, but I didn't know what I had to. You know what I mean? Sure, I mean, you have to have a certain amount of confidence to lean into this business.

This stuff like, lights me up.

Like, I just, I get like, like a kid that's just like, Oh my God, is that a star? like? And so it's. It's definitely it's something in me that I love, it lights me up.

I think there has to be doubt, I just always think there has to be.

I would prefer to be a person with a little doubt than a person who has too much confidence. Some people I'm like, but what are you? what's? You're wrong? yeah.

But also when I look at when I watch television and I see most talking heads, they're 100 sure about everything they're saying. Fascinating, and most politicians are 100 sure what they're saying. And I think, can we get back to having respect for people who say, Huh, it's difficult? This is? I never think things are a sure thing.

Don't you think that leans you towards doing your best and continuing to try? And also I do think that the death of a career is when you think you know everything. Yeah, you know, when you think, like, when you're not teachable, I don't know, the death of a human experience. Like to stay curious and teachable. Is kind of the thing. That keeps you growing, keeps you moving, keeps you connected to other people, keeps you being one among many. And not just this singular thing, right?

I'm curious if because you mentioned the beauty brand, which I know is a huge success and the name of it is.

Pattern, pattern beauty.

Pattern beauty.

We're a hair care brand.

Right now, yeah, is there anything for you for me? because and also I'm curious, now, hold on, I'm going somewhere with you.

I'm just really curious just because I know about your brand, it just makes it even funnier.

I just wondering, I have iconic hair.

You do have iconic hair.

And maybe.

There are products for you, you could use our Stronghold Gel, Yes.

And maybe you would want to put my face on the box. This is a you, okay, Sona, you all right. You're drinking a lot of water over there. No, no, no.

You should keep talking.

Well.

I'm just saying, it's something.

That I would offer up and now?

You're having water, bring me up a piece.

Of that Conan bar.

Why is everyone?

Having so much water, water doesn't seem to have any water, that's good.

We are a brand that exceeds the needs of the curly, coily and tight textured community, or anyone that needs hydration in their hair. But our content is centered around the celebration of Black beauty, and I don't think you check that box.

I think you are, I don't feel seen at this moment.

I don't see you right now.

Because you are invisible.

I've got to be part of.

Don't you think, No, no, no, no, no, no. There's so many things you can be part of, because that's how you can use the products.

Yeah, why aren't you pursuing Irish Spring or something? You know, I went to them, they're not interested either, really.

The Irish won't.

The Irish won't claim me.

It's just no one wants me. Does that still exist? That smelled so fresh, I know it did, it really did.

Okay, yeah. When I discovered liquid, I was like, Oh my god, what is this bar for?

I.

Have another question? I'm really, I love what I want to know. What time everyone wakes up in the morning?

Well, this morning, my dog Loki woke me up. name woke, woke me up at 6 a.m. I don't know why, but woke me. Insisted. Didn't need to go to the bathroom. Well, he went outside, but then I'd he like, loitered and smoked a cigarette like he.

Okay, and were you always an early riser, or is it just since you've become a grown-up?

No, I think left to my own devices. As a young man, I would really sleep in, but I think that's a young man's game. And then I think I don't really do that anymore. So, but yeah, so I'm what about you? What time? Well, I have a two-year-old.

I have a toddler, I have two toddlers. Why did you say one? I don't know.

Three months goes by like this, don't worry.

No, I know I woke. I'm not an early riser, but I am, what about you? I? I'm somewhere between 6 30 and 8 6, 30 and 7 30. I would say, okay, but I always used to be an early riser like I.

I ever went to and it was like, I know it was a ridiculous Hollywood party and everybody was there. And I'm just one, give us a couple names. Well, I'm going to, Yeah, I'm just, but I mean, you know, Tom Cruise is there.

That is a really a great story.

Also, How do you? what? what do you? how do you? There's a reason he looks that good, I mean, it's genetics, but also he think he was.

He was like, action cut, I'm going to bed. Yeah, that's nine to ten is just neat. I can't imagine, I don't think my body could.

She has an alarm that wakes her up every hour and she takes three edibles. That's true story every hour. Yeah, terrible, terrible addict anyway, I.

Cold Copy is out now. I play a cutthroat high-end journalist and you're in it and you're in like a.

Death grip battle with another journalist. Yes, well, she's my protege.

Played by Bell Pally. Mm-hmm. and yeah, I don't think I smile. Once in the movie, I've got a serious bang, a lot of bangs on the face, mm-hmm. And it was really fun.

I smirk in the movie when I successfully manipulate. It's fun to play mean, it's fun to be cutthroat, it's fun to let that that dog play. It was so fun.

And so going for it just I. Since Blackish, I've had, like, a real opportunity to play some fun, different things, but this was particularly juicy. Yeah, cold copy is in the action.

Well, there's a lot to congratulate you on here, and I can't even list it all. But your day starts with being an Oscar-nominated film. Yeah, and and I will say this, having had you on the show a couple of times and you've been on our show twice. I love it, I love it when I get to be around you because you have so much energy. And and and like, good, like, you pop, yeah, you pop, you pop, you pop.

I enjoy sitting with you all the time, so much fun, because I'm delighted about being your friend.

There you go, see what I tell you, bookended, bookended, all right?

Okay, I already talked to you about this because I made you pay me back in some way. But I made a hair appointment four months ago that was just barely gonna be getting me in time. Today for a recording session, and then I find out you want to record earlier. So I have to cancel my appointment and then I pay the full price for the appointment and then say how much that is? I'm not gonna do that, I will know.

Supercuts Yeah, I don't know if Supercuts is still around, but so it wasn't supercuts. Hold on a second. I'm gonna try and I'm gonna dish out some reality here, but.

You keep going well, what I'm saying. So I got it, I got not upset, but I was frustrated. So then we went and ate this now and I, I'm not even that hungry. But I ordered a sandwich and I ordered almost every pastry they have. Cuz I knew Conan was paying, Yeah, you load it up.

Yeah, I think you also banana, yeah, and you ordered a Porsche Boxster.