#2066 - Ralph Barbosa

2023-11-22 02:49:10

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1Speaker 1
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What's up, young man?

2Speaker 2
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What's up, man?

1Speaker 1
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Ralph Barbosa On the way up, What's happening?

2Speaker 2
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Hey, it's good to be here.

1Speaker 1
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Good to have you, man. I hear good things about you. I was just talking to Brian Simpson about you today.

2Speaker 2
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I'm a huge Brian Simpson fan, I love that dude.

1Speaker 1
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We were working out today and he was saying great things about you.

2Speaker 2
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No offense to Brian Simpson, but he works out.

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I never thought I'd hear it like that.

1Speaker 1
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He does now.

2Speaker 2
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Hell yeah.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, he's been working out with me for three weeks now. I got a little comedy boot camp going on over here.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, Shane Gillis, Duncan Trussell, Hasan Ahmad, Brian Simpson and me. We get together and get some workouts in.

2Speaker 2
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All those guys are living down here.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, they're all living down here.

2Speaker 2
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That's dope, man, Austin's pretty dope.

1Speaker 1
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Austin's Dope right now, Hell yeah, it's a great spot.

2Speaker 2
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I popped in here yesterday to Austin. I feel like I didn't used to be able to do this, but it was dope. Man. I got to go do a spot at the creek and then I got to go to your spot, I got to do the Little Boy.

1Speaker 1
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Nice.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, it's been dope, man.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, it's fun, Austin's like, it's a new thing, It's like an exciting thing.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, you know, it used to be like before Covid. Austin was as far as Texas goes. Austin was like the place to go. If you were too scared to, like, go to New York or L.A. people were like, just go to Austin. You know, it stayed busy, but it was also like, very woke and so you had to be like, real careful.

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And now it's like, Nice, yes, it's buckwild. I like that. Yeah, it's buckwild.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, well, you know what it is, it's Kill Tony, kill Tony's, because kill Tony's here that show. It sets the standard. Because it's all just about being funny. And people realize, like this idea that you're supposed to have, like some sort of fucking social message in your comedy.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, I also think it's just a lot of Californians and New Yorkers as well. Because, like, everybody started moving down here to be able to actually be on stage from New York or L.A. during Covid. And yeah, I feel like when they got here, they were like, you know, be careful, but everybody from California and New York was just like, No.

1Speaker 1
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Well, it depends on where you're from, you know, I mean, there's pockets of people that are, like, enchanted by the wokeness in all sections of the country. You know, it depends. Like, if you're coming from the comedy store, it's just about being funny. But if you're coming from some of the other clubs in L.A. maybe it's not.

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It's Hollywood man, it's like movies and TV, they're all run by executives and you have to think like they think, or you don't get hired.

2Speaker 2
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Well, I think another reason that it got so book wild, though, is because during Covid, if you were coming here, it's because you were already like, man, fuck the fucking Covid rules. You know what? I mean? If you're really that safe person, you're probably also that like, woke comedian. So I feel like those people stayed back while everybody who was ready to get Book Wild came down to Book Wild Town and got Book Wild.

1Speaker 1
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I think you nailed it. Yeah, I think you nailed it. Because the people that came here were like, fuck this, like fuck, telling me that I can't do stand up.

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Fuck telling me I can't go to a restaurant.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
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Especially when you go on the road. And you realize that if you just live in L.A. and you never leave L.A. you think the world is L.A. And then you go to Nashville and you go, oh, they haven't lost their mind.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
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They didn't lose their mind in Nashville, they were normal, like you go to Dallas, they didn't lose their mind in Dallas. People kind of got a little freaked out for Covid for a couple of weeks and everybody sort of just settled in.

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California never settled in, man, it never settled in, it's still there. I've been seeing people with masks on this week.

2Speaker 2
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I see that a lot, too. I remember when I came down to Austin a few times during Covid to a lot of the comics from L.A. You were like, Jesus Christ, they were waiting on you to rise with your club. Dude. I was like, you had to put too much pressure on Joe Rogan, man.

1Speaker 1
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It's a lot of pressure, bro.

2Speaker 2
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Because I think it's not all L.A. comics, but there were a few that maybe felt like the Austin Comics weren't showing love to the L.A. Comics. They were like, man, they put us last on the mics, they don't book us on the shows. L.A. comics got to do our own thing. But they were like, just wait, man.

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I heard a couple guys say this, they were like, Just wait, man, when Joe opens up his club, it's over. We'll be back on top. But I feel like you brought everybody together, man.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, everybody should be together, this is a fun artist community and it should be fun for everybody. There's no us versus them. Shut up, we're all comics.

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Stop with the Silliness, The Austin Comic, L.A. Comic, New York Comic.

2Speaker 2
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I think it was only for a little bit during Covid when everybody was just rushing in.

1Speaker 1
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Everybody was freaking out just about change in the world. There was a lot of weird shit going on in the world and everybody had a higher level of anxiety. And to take a chance. When you're young and you're coming up and everybody tells you, L.A. is where you have to be. Are you a 27 28-year-old comic? Oh my god.

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You've got to get to L.A. That's what I always heard. You've got to get to LA.

2Speaker 2
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You've got to get to LA.

1Speaker 1
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It's not the case anymore, that's not real anymore. The thing that helps you more than anything is podcasts. that's the thing that helps you more than anything. number one social media podcasts.

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Look how big you got so quick from a couple clips, just a couple clips. You know it as well as anybody. If you've got good shit now, it gets out. There is not a TV show in the world that would have done that for you.

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You would have had to be the star if you were living in the 90s, you would have to be the star of some NBC sitcom. To sell the kind of tickets you're selling right now, just from clips online, it's beautiful for comedians. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened.

2Speaker 2
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I feel like it's letting people decide who gets to blow up, you know what I mean?

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I don't know what it used to be like because I wasn't there, but I feel like it used to be. The industry kind of decides when you get your break or not. Do they put you on this show or that movie? They sort of do.

1Speaker 1
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But stand-up has always, at least partially, been a meritocracy, but stand-up, the quality of your stand-up, is the most important thing. Whether or not people are laughing, that's the most important, it's always been the most important thing. So if someone is undeniable, they always come through.

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They always come through, but they also have to be a hard worker. You've got to actually put it. There's too many guys that are really good that just go to one club or they don't go on the road.

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There's too many guys that miss this window of opportunity. Where they could have been real national headliners, and they just never developed a following out there in the world.

2Speaker 2
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They're fucked up 100. I know a handful of comics back home or in New York or L..A. Who I feel like are some of the funniest people in the world and don't have a lick of work ethic.

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So the world will never know.

1Speaker 1
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It's horrible, but some of them, it's not the work ethic. Some of them get jobs in the business like they're writers. Or like Owen Smith, who is one of the top 20 stand-up comics alive.

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Owen Smith is a fucking killer. His shit is so tight, he's so smooth on stage. You look at him and you're like, How is this guy not selling out arenas? how is this guy not selling out arenas?

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Because Owen had great jobs, he got a bunch of great jobs, he runs sitcoms and stuff, runs shows, he's a writer.

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But goddamn, when you look at the quality of his stand-up man, you should be everywhere, you should be everywhere.

2Speaker 2
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I mean, to each their own, if he's happy, he's happy, right?

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, I think the writer's strike probably freaked him out. I think the writer's strike and the actor's strike freaked a lot of those guys out. They're like, Oh shit. Because if they just pulled a plug for five, six months in some sort of contract negotiations. Like, some of those executives were literally saying, wait these people out when they start losing their homes.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, I saw that, that's some cutthroat shit.

1Speaker 1
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That's wild. Imagine if you got to go to work with those people after that, imagine, you know, that's how they feel about you.

2Speaker 2
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I couldn't do that, I mean, I already didn't go that route, I don't know if I could ever go that route.

1Speaker 1
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You could have gone that route in the 90s.

2Speaker 2
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In the 90s, that was the only option, man.

1Speaker 1
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In the 90s, when I first came to Hollywood in 94, that was what everybody wanted. You wanted, what Jerry Seinfeld had, you wanted, what Roseanne had. It was Brett Butler, who was what was that show called again Grace Under Fire?

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Grace under fire. That was a big show. Tim Allen, You wanted to be a comic that got a sitcom?

2Speaker 2
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That was the shit, dude.

1Speaker 1
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If you were a comic that got a sitcom, now you got a house in Beverly Hills. You're fucking balling out of control, you're driving a Ferrari. Whoa, you made it. That's what everybody wanted.

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This was like the goal, right?

2Speaker 2
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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
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And somewhere along the line, I think it was like the 2000s reality shows came around.

2Speaker 2
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Everybody wanted a reality show.

1Speaker 1
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They're so cheap to make, they're so cheap to make, and you don't, I mean, you have, like, you barely pay. The people that are on them, like all those real housewives and shit, they're not like making millions of dollars, I don't think.

2Speaker 2
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You think they are? I don't know now, I'd like to know, just so I can talk shit to them.

1Speaker 1
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I think like, maybe the new ones do. Obviously the Kardashians make a shitload of money, right? But I think they own their show.

2Speaker 2
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But what about like-?

1Speaker 1
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The point is like, they're way easier to make than a sitcom, way easier like Fear Factor was. You know, it was complicated in the stunts and all the stuff they had to do. But you don't have to write a script and like all that stuff, like, plays out on its own. It's like people competing.

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It plays out, the drama just happens, and you have good editing, good music and all that shit. But a sitcom man to write a good one?

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Bro, that shit is brutal.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, props to writers, man, props to writers, props to writers. I don't know. TV in general just kind of scares me.

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Acting, writing, I don't know.

1Speaker 1
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You're just so attached to, like, other people's opinions of you, like you're constantly getting chosen for stuff.

2Speaker 2
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I feel like, even though I've never done that, I do get tired of. Like comments, like, I know they say, never read the comments, but I read them. But it'll be like the like I can take a joke I can take.

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Getting roasted, especially if it's people who follow me, it kind of feels like, oh well, I mean, they follow. It's some sort of support, it feels like you're getting roasted by like your cousin.

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Right, he's still on my team. Fuck it. But the ones that like, piss me off, like, I don't know why they shouldn't, but they just throw me over there.

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Like, I want to fucking hit this guy in the face is like, if I just left. Like, let's say I did Miami last month, or like two weeks ago, and then I post like a flyer for next month's shows.

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And people are like, what the fuck you avoiding Miami? I'm like, Hey dumbass, I was just there, like two weeks ago, like, when did you start following me, asshole?

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Like, stop making me look like I don't show your city love.

1Speaker 1
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You can't pay attention to that. That's just someone who doesn't look at schedules. I hate it, yeah, but that's like, just that's a crazy person. That's a lack of information.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, but I don't know why I stopped checking social media. I'll check it like once throughout the day, and if I happen to catch your message or your comment, I catch it, if not, fuck it.

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Like tomorrow.

1Speaker 1
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You know what it's like, man? It's like when you're out at like, a party or a club or something like that. And someone yells across the room, Yo, what's up, Ralph?

2Speaker 2
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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
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You know? And you're like, Hey, what's up man? He goes, Dude, I'm a fan. what's up, how you doing? Then he'll give you some love.

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But he's like checking you to see if you'll like, react to him. That's kind of like what they're doing in the comments, what you don't come to Miami?

2Speaker 2
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Man, yeah, somebody tried to do that in, like, I think it was Denver. I was already pretty drunk and I was tripping off mushrooms, man, and I was like, in a playful mood.

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I can't help it. And some guy stopped me while I was walking out of the club. And he was like, Yo, Ralph, and I don't know why. My first reaction instantly was just to be like, yo, Rodrigo.

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And I didn't know who he was or nothing. I was just like, huh, like, we're guessing people's names now.

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And he just like he went blank face, he's like, what?

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And I was like, I'm fucking with you man. I was like, what's his name? And he was like, like, Eric or something? And I was like, Yo, Eric. And then I was like, Nice to meet you bro.

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And I was like, my bad man, I just walked off and when we were outside, man, it was like, snowy, icy, we're outside and some that same. I'm pretty sure it was that same dude.

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He was like, Hey Ralph, and he's like, Man, you pussy bro? And I was like, What's up? I was like, What's your deal, bro? what's going on?

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I had a feeling like he was because he was still real smiley. I had a feeling he was just fucking me or something. I was like, What's up man? what's your deal? He's like, what?

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I was like, What's up bro? what's your deal? He's like, What's my deal? And I felt so cool because I was smoking a cigarette.

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I was like, What you want to do, bro? And my friend Luis was really drunk. That dude just loves to fight.

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Luis pointed at my buddy Vince, who's like the nerdiest guy in the world. He's a writer for that show. This fool, super nerdy guy with glasses. He's like, You see this guy, bro, he knows MMA.

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He doesn't, though. I don't know, I don't think Vince has ever been in a fight. That dude was like, Nah, I'm fucking with you man, I'm sorry bro.

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I'm sorry, but I was just kind of waiting for him to come at me. Usually, if I get into a fight, I'm going to get the first hit. I'm a small dude, I'm not going to risk getting knocked out on the first punch.

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I'm not like a if he hits me, then I'll hit him. If there's a fight that's going to happen. I'm fucking swinging first, I'm going to lose either way, most likely, but I might at least start swinging first before you knock me out. But I wanted him to come to me because it was so snowy and icy. I was like, if I start walking and I fucking slip, I want him to risk slipping first before I risk slipping.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, ice fighting is not smart.

2Speaker 2
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It was the day before the Netflix special came out, so I was like, I'm not going to have a video of me getting knocked out in the ice come out the day before the special.

1Speaker 1
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You have to know jujitsu if you're going to fight on the ice 100%.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're fighting someone on a slippery surface, all you have to do is grab them and you're both going to the ground.

2Speaker 2
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All right, I'll keep that in mind.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, but don't fight, don't fight, man, don't fight on ice.

2Speaker 2
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I feel like it's coming. Don't fight with mice. I'm getting heated just talking about this.

1Speaker 1
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Don't fight, Ralph, you're a wild young kid, don't do it. you got a great career, don't fight.

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Don't be fighting people. If you want to fight, go to a gym.

2Speaker 2
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I went to a boxing gym for a little bit earlier this year, I went for like two months.

1Speaker 1
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That'd be good for you.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, I liked it. I want to do something different, though.

1Speaker 1
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Boxing is one of the very best things ever for relieving tension if you're fucking tense. You got too much going on in your world, man. You just put on some good tunes. I have a wu-tang playlist that I play when I hit the bag.

2Speaker 2
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I'd go early in the morning for private sessions and that's what I would put on. Some wu-tang, some RZa, RZA. Specifically. It has that one song that, like, You Can't Stop Me Now, yeah, it's like a boxing classic.

1Speaker 1
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RZA's got so many jams, but for me, number one is protect your neck, that has to be on every playlist. And that's like when we would drive to the arena shows and sometimes we'd get a police escort. And there's something wild about cop cars with flashing lights and you're listening to protect your neck.

2Speaker 2
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Nice. I've never had a police escort, but one time in a parking lot, I had a security guard escort. But they had, like the yellow lights, those aren't as threatening or as fun the yellow lights.

1Speaker 1
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No, that's not as fun. You need blue lights.

2Speaker 2
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It was also like a shopping center, parking lot. It's not exactly an arena, but.

1Speaker 1
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Dude, some of the best comedy clubs ever, and there's little shopping center, mall places. yeah, little fucking clubs that you would never imagine were great, you know?

2Speaker 2
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Little Funny bones.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, man shit, I've never been to that one that's at the Mall of America, but I heard that's dope, too.

2Speaker 2
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That was like the first club I got to do, like when I started hitting the road, that was like our second club. I don't know. It was like November, like early November of 2022..

1Speaker 1
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Are you from Dallas? Mm-hmm. Are you from Dallas? So, like Minnesota, winter is a different thing, man.

2Speaker 2
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Oh, I loved it. That's crazy. I love the cold and I'm tired of the heat. Yeah, I'm so sick of the heat.

1Speaker 1
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Oh, that's funny.

2Speaker 2
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I finally had a reason to wear a jacket.

1Speaker 1
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See, I grew up in Boston.

2Speaker 2
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Oh, so, you're used to the cold?

1Speaker 1
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The cold is fucking Boston, and I'm like, Fuck the cold, you can heat me up. That doesn't bother me at all. I know people die in the cold, people die in their car in the cold.

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Yeah, yeah. In the heat, all you have to do is get in the shade, get water, don't be stupid, be in reasonably good shape. And you can get away with it. If you're just like Woods and you have water, if it's the cold, you're fucked.

2Speaker 2
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I love it, man, I'm skinny, I just layer up, wear like two, three jackets.

1Speaker 1
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Oh, that's great, I'm kidding, as long as there's a place to get warm, yeah, that's the thing.

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Like, you can't survive unless you can get warm, that's the difference. Like everybody's worried about global warming. global cooling is what freaks me out. ice ages freak me out.

2Speaker 2
00:17:45.86 – 00:18:03.96

Yo, when Texas froze a couple years ago, I was somebody I think I was watching, like a video on Instagram, somebody was just like, if climate change, like, keeps getting worse, that will happen, but like for longer periods of time, or for like, colder temperatures. If that's true, then, yeah, I'm pretty scared.

1Speaker 1
00:18:04.18 – 00:18:11.86

Bro, that's all guesswork. Everyone's guessing. Yeah, there's definitely an impact. It's undeniable that human beings have an impact.

00:18:13.14 – 00:18:29.10

But here's the problem the climate is never the same, it's never steady forever. If you go back to, like, 1934 in, I think it was Wyoming got to like 118 degrees.

2Speaker 2
00:18:29.30 – 00:18:29.86

Holy shit.

1Speaker 1
00:18:30.02 – 00:18:35.20

Yeah, something crazy like that, and they were talking, it was God. I don't remember where I saw this.

2Speaker 2
00:18:35.72 – 00:18:37.56

I guess that's why they call it climate change.

3Speaker 3
00:18:37.82 – 00:18:38.58

It's because of the dust bowl.

1Speaker 1
00:18:38.84 – 00:18:39.56

The Dust Bowl.

2Speaker 2
00:18:40.66 – 00:18:42.32

What was that? I always hear about that.

1Speaker 1
00:18:42.38 – 00:18:43.26

Climate change?

2Speaker 2
00:18:43.76 – 00:18:44.60

The Dust Bowl.

3Speaker 3
00:18:45.12 – 00:18:58.38

It's bad for, like, a lot of, I mean, this is not exactly what it was, but a lot of bad farming and drought. It caused a bunch of bad crops. And they all turned to like, shit, they turned to dust, and it created giant dust storms all over the like western part of the country.

1Speaker 1
00:18:58.60 – 00:18:59.52

And that heated things up.

3Speaker 3
00:18:59.64 – 00:19:04.88

It led to a bunch of shit in the air that, like, caused problems with the storms and the sun. Wow, and it definitely did heat things up.

2Speaker 2
00:19:04.92 – 00:19:08.16

I bet they thought the world was ending right then and there. That's wild.

1Speaker 1
00:19:08.92 – 00:19:36.74

But anyway, the point is, if you go back in time, you know when they do these things called core samples. So they take this giant slab of the earth, you know, hundreds of feet down, and through that, you can, you know, they do carbon testing, so they know like this is from 1,000 years ago, this is from 2,000 years ago. When they do that, it's all over the place, man. They have these charts of the temperature of the Earth throughout history.

00:19:36.90 – 00:19:44.32

Have you ever seen them? Mm-mm, they go like this all over the place, even before, people like, it's always been wacky.

2Speaker 2
00:19:44.32 – 00:19:48.22

I'm learning a lot, man, learning about Hollywood in the 90s and climate change.

1Speaker 1
00:19:48.48 – 00:19:49.36

Bro, I'm here to teach.

2Speaker 2
00:19:50.52 – 00:19:53.82

This is such a one-sided podcast, man, it's not even fair.

1Speaker 1
00:19:54.10 – 00:19:55.94

No, it's not come on, man.

2Speaker 2
00:19:56.00 – 00:19:58.56

It's not, dude. I was thinking about that on the way over here.

1Speaker 1
00:19:58.76 – 00:19:58.86

It's a conversation.

2Speaker 2
00:19:59.14 – 00:20:10.96

It is, but like, do you realize how like this is? Like, bro, it's not even fair, bro. I have everything to gain here, like me, I'm 27, right?

1Speaker 1
00:20:11.08 – 00:20:11.34

Right?

2Speaker 2
00:20:11.98 – 00:20:20.90

And you know, you're Joe Rogan, you got the experience, you got the podcast, you got all this knowledge in the world of comedy business. If I just listen, I'm going to learn some shit today.

00:20:22.42 – 00:20:29.08

But you you got to talk to, like a 27-year-old, like, what do you even talk about? Like everything we've talked about. I'm learning this is my first time. Are you 27??

1Speaker 1
00:20:29.82 – 00:20:35.54

Come on, man, I love what you're doing right now. I really do. I love comics on the rise, it's exciting to me.

2Speaker 2
00:20:35.66 – 00:20:36.50

Well, comedy is fun.

1Speaker 1
00:20:36.64 – 00:20:44.56

I love comedy, I love good comics, and I love when people get better at shit, and I love watching it. I really do.

00:20:44.66 – 00:20:48.10

I love watching people crack, it's fun, I love it.

2Speaker 2
00:20:48.20 – 00:20:48.82

I'm definitely trying to get better.

1Speaker 1
00:20:49.06 – 00:20:54.58

You're fucking great man, you're funny as shit, you're cool, you're relaxed, you're smooth on stage.

00:20:54.64 – 00:20:57.30

You got a lot going for you, man, and I love it.

2Speaker 2
00:20:57.58 – 00:21:10.88

Sometimes I won't be smooth on stage, sometimes I'll have a burst of energy and I'll let it out and I'll have fun that way. And I can tell some of the audience is like, Ah, this is fun. And some of them think I'm on drugs because they've never seen that. They're like, he's coked out.

00:21:11.34 – 00:21:20.22

I'm not a coke guy, though I'm not. I want people to know that. If you ever see me on stage and I'm not like super mellow and I'm actually energetic, just know it's not drugs. Mushrooms, maybe.

00:21:20.44 – 00:21:21.52

Not anything else, though.

1Speaker 1
00:21:21.94 – 00:21:31.06

Yeah, I know a few guys who have done, like the guys who had problems with Coke, who did Coke and then did stand-up, and they said it fucked their stand-up up.

2Speaker 2
00:21:31.50 – 00:21:36.52

I bet I'm sober on stage, like 98 of the time.

1Speaker 1
00:21:36.68 – 00:21:42.96

Yeah, you're smoother that way. Yeah, I like a drink, I like a drink every now and again, a little puff and a drink.

2Speaker 2
00:21:43.28 – 00:21:45.20

Sometimes you need that just to kind of lose, like.

1Speaker 1
00:21:45.40 – 00:21:49.46

Just to get in the fun mood, Yeah, we're having fun, you know?

2Speaker 2
00:21:49.58 – 00:21:59.22

Yeah, for sure. Sometimes you might be a little stressed depending on what's going on in your day or your week. And you need, like, a shot, a couple of hits to, like, take that off a little bit.

1Speaker 1
00:21:59.22 – 00:22:04.82

Take that edge off and just say, Come on, Ralph, enjoy this shit, you're on a fun ride. Yeah, let's go.

2Speaker 2
00:22:05.18 – 00:22:19.64

I just, I try to chill sometimes just because I know that if I do start drinking, I'm not gonna stop like, I'm not at. Like, a few beers in the night, I might. If I have two shows, I might drink a beer or two before the second show, I might drink another couple beers on the stage.

00:22:19.82 – 00:22:35.96

But I'm also like, when I'm on, like the West Coast, from Texas to the West. My audiences are like 100 Mexican. Like, there's no type of mix. And if you drink in front of an all-Mexican crowd, they're just gonna keep like, chug, chug, chug, right? And there's no satisfying them.

00:22:36.30 – 00:22:44.18

Like, they give you, like I learned my lesson, if you chug one, you'll have to chug another, if you chug the next one. Like, you'll be eight beers in wanting to throw up on stage, like.

1Speaker 1
00:22:44.20 – 00:22:46.92

More dudes gonna bring you beers? Yeah, let me get them one too.

2Speaker 2
00:22:47.26 – 00:22:54.52

Yeah, so like, I won't drink on stage. If I do, I'll let them know like, I'm not fucking, you're not doing this to me.

1Speaker 1
00:22:54.94 – 00:22:56.62

Yeah, they could take you down a rabbit hole.

2Speaker 2
00:22:56.62 – 00:23:00.42

But after the show, if I already started drinking after the show, I'll keep it going.

1Speaker 1
00:23:01.44 – 00:23:06.76

Mitzi's is a fun place to be after the shows, where Mitzi's the bar downstairs at the Mothership.

2Speaker 2
00:23:07.02 – 00:23:07.38

Oh yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:23:07.86 – 00:23:09.40

After the shows, we're going downstairs.

2Speaker 2
00:23:09.80 – 00:23:10.38

All right, all right.

1Speaker 1
00:23:10.52 – 00:23:13.34

We're going, it's great, whole staff's partying, Mitzi's just hanging out.

00:23:13.40 – 00:23:20.06

Yeah, let's do it. It's a great vibe, it's a real, great sense of community and home, you know that?

00:23:20.06 – 00:23:23.74

It's a real like home base, you know?

2Speaker 2
00:23:23.92 – 00:23:26.42

You need home bases when you're on the road. A lot, I do.

1Speaker 1
00:23:26.78 – 00:23:27.44

I think you do, too.

2Speaker 2
00:23:27.52 – 00:23:28.08

Keep you human.

1Speaker 1
00:23:28.22 – 00:23:42.04

That's what we used to have at the store. It was a home base, all these guys that would tour on the weekends. We'd all meet each other at the bar. At the bar downstairs, it was a comedian's only bar, it was this beautiful bar, and the bar itself was Mitzi's.

00:23:42.12 – 00:23:53.48

It was from her home and they moved it. when she moved out of her home, they moved it and they put it in this one. So you knew it was like, you're holding onto Mitzi's bar. This is hers, you know?

00:23:53.48 – 00:24:00.88

Yeah, this is her bar, like you feel, her bar. When you put your hand down, when you have a drink, you set it down on Mitzi's bar. There was something about that, man.

00:24:01.06 – 00:24:08.42

And then we're, you know, Ron White's back there and fucking Dave Chappelle's back there. Dave brings his own music, sometimes it's crazy, it's beautiful.

2Speaker 2
00:24:08.50 – 00:24:09.66

No, I fucking love that, it's beautiful.

1Speaker 1
00:24:09.90 – 00:24:13.14

It's just a hang, man. Oh yeah, and so that's what we do at the mothership.

2Speaker 2
00:24:13.80 – 00:24:14.80

Dave has good music.

1Speaker 1
00:24:15.18 – 00:24:24.46

He's always got the best music. I always have Shazam on point. Yeah, I have it set up, so I tap the back of my phone three times and Shazam pops up.

2Speaker 2
00:24:24.48 – 00:24:30.02

Shazam pops up. Yeah, I just have it on the little pull-down menu or whatever. I don't know what you call it. I don't want to show you my messages.

1Speaker 1
00:24:30.72 – 00:24:36.64

I got a new case, it's a little thick. I might have fucked up my tapping. That was like the sweetest thing I could tap three times.

00:24:36.76 – 00:24:37.46

Boom, boom, boom.

2Speaker 2
00:24:37.68 – 00:24:39.06

You're going to have to work out your hands more.

1Speaker 1
00:24:39.08 – 00:24:40.42

You're going to want to see Shazam comes up.

2Speaker 2
00:24:40.56 – 00:24:40.98

Hell yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:24:41.14 – 00:24:43.36

Yeah, I got to get better, finger strength, got to get better.

2Speaker 2
00:24:44.20 – 00:24:45.22

You're telling me, buddy?

1Speaker 1
00:24:45.58 – 00:24:59.96

Got to work on my piano skills. I imagine piano players, man, that kind of dexterity in your fingers, piano and guitar. anything you could do with your fingers like that, that's some wild dexterity.

2Speaker 2
00:25:00.10 – 00:25:20.54

There's Instagram videos, I got a trick for that. There's no need for dexterity these days. I mean, if you're going to play like a full-on song, then, yeah, you need dexterity and actual piano lessons. But if you're the type of guy like me who just every now and then comes across a piano and you want to impress people. There's these Instagram videos that have like four keys tops.

00:25:20.78 – 00:25:32.78

And if you play the keys the way they tell you, it's a simple little pattern. But it sounds like you're doing a bunch. It sounds like you have dexterity, so it's cool. I just like to trick people. I have no real skills.

1Speaker 1
00:25:33.08 – 00:25:42.82

Well, that's a skill, you just have a very small skill, like you were playing pool earlier with Jake. You can make a ball, right? that's a skill.

00:25:43.16 – 00:25:45.94

You're just not a professional pool player, that's the difference.

2Speaker 2
00:25:46.02 – 00:25:55.04

I know enough to get by. I'm like, Leo on, catch me. If you can, I'll get by. I'll get some money, but there won't be a real career here.

1Speaker 1
00:25:55.78 – 00:26:15.06

Well, you know, that's one of the beautiful things about anything you learn, and then you realize how much more there is to learn. I remember when I first started doing stand-up. All you're trying to do is just get a laugh. All you're trying to do is figure out how to not drown up there. And slowly but surely try to find things that you think are funny.

00:26:15.22 – 00:26:24.78

But you're getting better over time, for sure, everybody gets better, all of us get better, for sure. And there's something about that that's fucking cool.

00:26:25.38 – 00:26:27.50

And it seems to never end, man.

2Speaker 2
00:26:27.60 – 00:26:30.50

That's what I love about stand-up, I've always loved to learn.

00:26:32.10 – 00:26:45.82

I've had various jobs just for the sake of learning that specific little trade. But stand-up was the first thing that I was like, man, this is never ending. I'm never going to finish learning, I'm never going to finish getting as good as I want to get.

00:26:45.98 – 00:26:47.86

So that's the one that I really stuck to.

1Speaker 1
00:26:48.48 – 00:27:01.28

Yeah, it's a beautiful thing too, because you get this amazing feedback from all these people and you make them feel better. Yeah, when people leave a great show, they have this fucking smile on their face, like, Oh shit, that was great, that was so fun.

00:27:01.56 – 00:27:02.78

Yeah, that was so fun.

2Speaker 2
00:27:03.00 – 00:27:04.88

Sometimes girls want to have sex with you after.

1Speaker 1
00:27:04.96 – 00:27:12.58

That's crazy. You're bringing joy, you're just bringing joy to all these people, but you're getting better at it too. Dom Herrera said that to me once.

00:27:12.74 – 00:27:23.94

And Dom at the time was in his 60s and he's like, Joe, I don't think I've ever been sharper. He goes, like all these sets at the store, he goes. I feel like stand-up is an amazing thing because you can just keep getting better at it.

2Speaker 2
00:27:24.18 – 00:27:30.56

I'm motivated to do more of it, whether I kill or I bomb, because if I bomb, I'm like, Bro, would I have to fix that?

1Speaker 1
00:27:30.84 – 00:27:36.84

Have you seen Ron White lately? Ron White's sober now, he doesn't drink anymore, better than ever.

2Speaker 2
00:27:37.22 – 00:27:39.54

Yeah, better than ever, you see, that's why I want to stay sober.

1Speaker 1
00:27:39.84 – 00:27:47.22

Murdering, murdering, I mean, murdering. Ron White's a fucking assassin and he's, like, never been sharper.

00:27:48.16 – 00:27:56.96

New bits, always working on new shit, constantly rolling out new material. He's going on tour again. He was going to have a retirement party. I'm like, Bitch, you ain't retiring.

2Speaker 2
00:27:57.22 – 00:28:01.68

I don't think you could retire with stand-up, I think, I mean, what do I know?

1Speaker 1
00:28:01.68 – 00:28:09.78

He was saying that he was just going to do the club. I'll just do the mothership. I'm like, yeah, for a while, you're just going to do the mothership, but you're going to get there, bitch.

2Speaker 2
00:28:10.26 – 00:28:21.66

I don't know, yeah, I don't know what he's going through or anything. But I feel like this is the type of game where you could try to retire, you could try to take breaks, but man, there's no finishing this.

00:28:21.74 – 00:28:24.16

It's too fun, yeah, there's just no way to finish.

1Speaker 1
00:28:24.34 – 00:28:31.14

And you're doing it with people that are like, you, yeah, we're weirdos. Yeah, we could find other comics to hang out with.

00:28:31.24 – 00:28:46.98

They're the most forgiving, understanding, ridiculous. People talk shit to each other all the time, everyone's laughing. That green room at the Mothership at any given night. It is just like a full-on show and we're all howling at each other.

00:28:47.58 – 00:28:56.76

You know, Hinchcliffe's cracking on people, Shane Gillis is cracking on people, Ron White chimes in, Brian Simpson dumps on people. It's wild back there.

00:28:56.78 – 00:29:02.70

We're having so much fun, just all laughing at each other, just all falling down on the ground, slapping tables.

2Speaker 2
00:29:03.06 – 00:29:04.00

Fucking dope man.

1Speaker 1
00:29:04.70 – 00:29:05.50

It's beautiful.

2Speaker 2
00:29:05.98 – 00:29:19.94

It's hard to like joke, it's hard to go back from that when you get used to talking shit with comics. My group of friends that I grew up with, we talked heavy amounts of shit to each other, there was no line.

00:29:20.36 – 00:29:39.10

And I feel like with comics you can do that too. Everybody's just shooting the shit, but it's tough sometimes going home or trying to, like, I've dated people where I meet their family or whatever. And you know, you start to get a little comfortable, but you forget that their line is way fucking.

1Speaker 1
00:29:39.52 – 00:29:42.52

Way, way, way, way down the road.

2Speaker 2
00:29:42.52 – 00:29:43.92

Yeah, and I'm like, fuck.

1Speaker 1
00:29:44.12 – 00:29:46.60

You passed their line in the third grade.

2Speaker 2
00:29:46.74 – 00:29:58.82

Yeah, I've said some jokes in front of the family of girls I've dated or something like that where they're just like, Holy shit, man. I'm like, all right, my bad, my bad. It's tough to go back, but sometimes I kind of miss that too.

00:29:58.92 – 00:30:05.50

To be around somebody who's like, not a comic, like, I don't know, my uncle has a body shop.

00:30:07.78 – 00:30:20.66

And sometimes there's just random dudes that will go hang out, dudes that are getting their cars painted there. And sometimes I like, miss those guys because I remember them just talking shit about, like, just random things, just regular dudes.

00:30:20.66 – 00:30:30.46

Yeah, sometimes they're curious about things and they don't have the knowledge of, like the celebrity world or like the outside, this or that. They're just kind of shooting the shit. Sometimes. I do kind of miss those convos.

00:30:30.72 – 00:30:36.18

But I don't know, I don't like them getting mad at jokes, I say.

1Speaker 1
00:30:36.40 – 00:30:49.48

Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of friends that have regular jobs, one of my best friends. He works as a maintenance guy at a high school. I've known him since I was like 24, 23..

2Speaker 2
00:30:50.14 – 00:30:52.50

We've been friends forever. Do you ever imagine like—?

1Speaker 1
00:30:52.50 – 00:30:53.60

Shout out to Tommy Jr.

2Speaker 2
00:30:54.00 – 00:30:55.34

Yo, what up, Tommy Jr?

00:30:55.34 – 00:31:02.60

Do you ever imagine, like, going back to something like that, like,—?

1Speaker 1
00:31:02.60 – 00:31:03.80

To like regular life.

2Speaker 2
00:31:03.94 – 00:31:04.88

Yeah, do you ever? yeah?

1Speaker 1
00:31:05.38 – 00:31:17.10

Well, I think everybody that gets real famous. There's a certain amount of pressure that comes with that, that's not comfortable for some people. You know, like you think how it is like reading your comments, can you imagine if I read my comments?

2Speaker 2
00:31:18.04 – 00:31:20.54

I was going to ask you about that, too. Do you ever read them?

1Speaker 1
00:31:20.72 – 00:31:22.86

No, they're not good for you, they're not.

2Speaker 2
00:31:23.06 – 00:31:23.26

No.

1Speaker 1
00:31:23.54 – 00:31:27.24

I think the bad ones are not good for you, and the good ones aren't good for you either.

2Speaker 2
00:31:27.38 – 00:31:31.04

No, they can't be because you've got to stay you, no matter what.

1Speaker 1
00:31:31.22 – 00:31:39.68

And that's difficult. A lot of guys lose their mind, and I've lost my mind a few times and got it back, but you can lose your mind. Oh, for sure.

00:31:39.80 – 00:32:01.46

You can get lost in, you know, other people's opinions of you. Who are you really? You need at least some amount of time in your day to self-reflect, just self-reflect. You know if you half-assed something, or if you did a good job, you know if you prepared for something the way you should have.

00:32:01.56 – 00:32:08.74

You know, you know, you know if a show went well, you know if a show sucked, you know you were off, you didn't have anything, it was something.

00:32:09.04 – 00:32:15.20

Anything, whatever it is, you know, and if you don't spend enough time thinking about that and working on those things.

00:32:15.38 – 00:32:22.28

Whether it's with your personal life or your stand-up, or your hobbies, or anything that you're doing if you don't have at least some time.

00:32:22.46 – 00:32:31.08

Where you're not thinking about other people's opinions, but you're just looking at it yourself. Then you've got too much noise coming in and too much noise. Oh, but fuck you.

00:32:31.20 – 00:32:39.48

I didn't say, fuck you. And then you see people where their whole life is engaged in these meaningless disputes with people meaningless.

2Speaker 2
00:32:39.66 – 00:32:39.98

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:32:39.98 – 00:32:51.52

Energy that you could spend on positive things, like friendships, like a hobby that you enjoy, like your loved ones, like positive things about life.

00:32:52.24 – 00:33:02.64

And I think for some people, they get trapped in this world of other people's opinions, and they don't take enough time to look at themselves. Like, think about yourself, think about you, think about what you're doing.

2Speaker 2
00:33:02.96 – 00:33:05.90

I'm learning, yeah, I'm learning that, at least for me, I don't know.

00:33:06.10 – 00:33:14.42

I feel like stand-up is a lot like a fight, or like racing a car. Like everybody could have an opinion on, like, why you won it, why you lost it, the race.

00:33:14.60 – 00:33:23.42

But nobody's really in the car with you. Nobody saw if you actually shifted wrong or correctly right, or if it was because you ducked when you should have punched or something like.

00:33:23.48 – 00:33:24.46

Right, only, you know.

1Speaker 1
00:33:24.74 – 00:33:25.68

Only you know, yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:33:25.92 – 00:33:26.54

Learning that.

1Speaker 1
00:33:26.74 – 00:33:35.60

Yeah, but that's, I guess. That's the case with everything. And there's nothing wrong with people expressing opinions. But I just don't think it's good for you to get engaged with them.

00:33:35.84 – 00:33:38.26

I just don't think that's mentally healthy.

2Speaker 2
00:33:38.26 – 00:33:39.28

Oh, I've engaged.

1Speaker 1
00:33:39.58 – 00:33:40.24

I'm sure.

2Speaker 2
00:33:41.22 – 00:33:48.04

I engaged for like, a good two hours, but here's what I fucked up, not only engaging is. I waited to post a clip.

00:33:48.22 – 00:33:56.14

And I had a feeling that a few people would talk some shit. So I waited to post it on an afternoon where I'd have some time to engage, like I knew I would engage.

1Speaker 1
00:33:56.14 – 00:33:57.38

You did it on purpose, you were ready.

2Speaker 2
00:33:57.60 – 00:33:59.84

Yeah, yeah, I was like, Nah, because I want to see what people say, right?

00:34:00.02 – 00:34:03.80

Right? But after a while, I was like, Alright, I've engaged enough, like, but.

00:34:04.00 – 00:34:08.18

Yeah, after that I was like, Nah, I'm not doing this again. That was kind of my like, alright?

00:34:08.52 – 00:34:19.84

I'm good on engaging point. That was when I realized, like, I should, I should not check social media anymore or not? As often, I posted a clip making fun of Latino Republicans.

00:34:23.34 – 00:34:30.20

I didn't even like, say anything harsh, they got mad. I didn't say. all I said is they look weird, that's like.

00:34:30.20 – 00:34:39.32

The heaviest thing I said was that it's weird to see a dude with an accent be like, We got to stop immigrants, you know, because you're like, wondering when they got here.

00:34:39.52 – 00:34:39.56

Like?

1Speaker 1
00:34:39.80 – 00:34:40.02

Right?

2Speaker 2
00:34:40.46 – 00:34:45.06

I didn't. I was like, I don't know if he's saying they're wrong. I mean, fucking robot doesn't taste weird, but I mean, you need it, right.

00:34:45.10 – 00:34:49.46

Like, maybe it's working, I don't know, so I'm not saying they're wrong, I just said a little weird.

1Speaker 1
00:34:49.78 – 00:34:55.14

Well, there's a shitload of them in Florida, yeah, all the people that came from communist countries.

2Speaker 2
00:34:55.30 – 00:34:58.72

Oh, here in Texas, too, because they're, like, fuck that nonsense, so a lot of the people who came from.

1Speaker 1
00:34:58.72 – 00:34:59.50

You know, one of these little cigars?

2Speaker 2
00:34:59.68 – 00:35:00.02

Yeah, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:35:00.12 – 00:35:05.22

These little Ron White specials, Ron White got me on these little cigars, little baby cigars, you know, finish a whole one.

2Speaker 2
00:35:05.52 – 00:35:15.00

A lot of the people who were commenting were like people who came from communist countries. And I don't know their experience. I don't know the experience of anybody really. I'm just up there talking some shit.

00:35:15.48 – 00:35:18.62

But I wasn't trying to change anybody's mind, I wasn't like.

1Speaker 1
00:35:18.70 – 00:35:19.68

You're just talking shit, yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:35:19.70 – 00:35:24.96

I was like, you shouldn't be, and people were in the comments, they were like, they're like, Well, Ralph doesn't understand politics.

00:35:25.84 – 00:35:28.48

Yeah, I don't, this is a joke, like, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:35:28.48 – 00:35:29.54

Yeah, I'm just talking shit.

2Speaker 2
00:35:29.62 – 00:35:34.76

Also, I just said, you look weird, I didn't say anything wrong with it, you know what I mean? Some Versace shirts look weird.

1Speaker 1
00:35:34.94 – 00:35:35.76

They do look weird.

2Speaker 2
00:35:35.86 – 00:35:37.78

But they're nice, they're nice, you know what I mean?

1Speaker 1
00:35:38.34 – 00:35:45.02

Wasn't that what Shane got for the fights? He got a Versace shirt, a golden Versace shirt, that shit looked dope. That's a bold move.

00:35:46.12 – 00:35:52.50

You know, you got a gold Versace shirt on? You're like, I'm here to party, you know, that's like the ultimate Hawaiian shirt.

00:35:53.14 – 00:35:57.12

Like a Hawaiian shirt is I'm here to party and a Versace shirt.

2Speaker 2
00:35:57.14 – 00:35:59.68

I saw that, Yeah, yeah, I know I know what you're talking about.

00:35:59.70 – 00:36:00.84

He posted a picture There you go.

1Speaker 1
00:36:02.88 – 00:36:06.36

Look at him with the president, with the former president.

00:36:09.66 – 00:36:10.46

It's a blurry picture.

2Speaker 2
00:36:10.48 – 00:36:16.12

That's a badass picture, by the way. I'm not like a Trump supporter or nothing, but that's just a fucking dope picture.

1Speaker 1
00:36:16.34 – 00:36:21.44

That's a fun picture. Have you ever seen Shane's Trump impression? Yeah, it's fucking insane. It's so good.

2Speaker 2
00:36:22.82 – 00:36:24.66

You have, like, an ashtray, Oh, right there.

1Speaker 1
00:36:24.80 – 00:36:28.74

If I was Trump's friend, I'd try to get him to shave his head. Yeah, I'd be like, come on, bro.

2Speaker 2
00:36:30.68 – 00:36:36.00

I want to take more cool pictures like that, just post them every now and then. And I don't think he put like a caption, right?

1Speaker 1
00:36:36.68 – 00:36:38.04

I don't know what he put up.

2Speaker 2
00:36:38.34 – 00:36:42.78

I don't think he put a caption, Bro, that's fucking genius. That's why this dude is like the next goat, bro.

1Speaker 1
00:36:43.30 – 00:36:49.64

Oh, he's so funny, man, he's so funny. That video he has about Navy seals. Oh my God, I could watch it a hundred times.

00:36:50.08 – 00:37:01.94

I could watch it a hundred times. He's so funny, man, and he's out here too now. It's cool because we've got like this real good vibe going where everybody's just really fucking having fun.

00:37:03.08 – 00:37:11.80

And there's all these young guys coming up because, like, a big point of the club was development. Like, we want to have two nights of open mic night every Sunday, every Monday.

00:37:11.94 – 00:37:19.86

Open mic night and then Monday. Kill Tony, Kill Tony is the anchor, that's the anchor, because it sets the tone of the culture.

00:37:20.30 – 00:37:25.50

Like, you have one minute in that minute, you got to be funny, you just got to be and then people realize.

00:37:25.64 – 00:37:32.42

Oh, that's what this is all about. Yeah, this is an art form, it's an art form, and it's about how to be funny and everybody's got their own way.

00:37:32.76 – 00:37:41.96

You know, Ali Sadiq has these great stories, he's got these beautiful long stories, amazing storyteller, you know, and then you got Joey Diaz, who's like.

00:37:42.04 – 00:37:42.40

Bang Bang.

2Speaker 2
00:37:42.58 – 00:37:43.34

Bang, bang, bang.

1Speaker 1
00:37:43.94 – 00:37:45.94

He hits you with those bang, bang, bangs.

2Speaker 2
00:37:46.46 – 00:37:55.46

I love, I love the upstairs room, the little boy, because you got comics going up, but you also have, like every employee in the mothership, going up.

1Speaker 1
00:37:55.58 – 00:37:56.56

Yeah, well, they're all comics.

2Speaker 2
00:37:56.70 – 00:38:06.72

Yeah, they're all comics, too, but you're giving them a chance, man. A lot of comics work. The club to try to, like, get in with the club, like across the country, whatever their club is.

00:38:06.94 – 00:38:09.62

And sometimes even they don't get really the chance. You know what I mean, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:38:09.70 – 00:38:17.94

Well, we all came from open mics, everybody did like, that's the only way to do it, you have to get on stage.

00:38:18.06 – 00:38:25.10

Yeah, so why would a club not have an open mic? And they're like, Well, it doesn't. You know, we could fill it up with a headliner? Yeah, you could.

00:38:25.42 – 00:38:41.14

You could, but you're making a short term gain decision where you're making more money and you're not looking at the long term. Just for the art form, the art form needs seeds.

00:38:41.42 – 00:38:50.04

It needs plants, it needs someone to help, it needs someone to tend the garden, it needs someone to give people opportunities and to say like, this is a renewable resource.

00:38:50.56 – 00:38:58.32

This beautiful thing that we all enjoy, people talking shit and us laughing, it's the most beautiful thing. I love it to death.

2Speaker 2
00:38:58.38 – 00:38:59.96

There's the art side and the business side.

1Speaker 1
00:39:00.22 – 00:39:01.24

Yeah, well, that's.

2Speaker 2
00:39:01.28 – 00:39:02.44

There's got to be a balance to it.

1Speaker 1
00:39:02.56 – 00:39:07.42

That's where you, yeah, you got to, you got to, I don't know, man.

2Speaker 2
00:39:08.18 – 00:39:08.38

I.

1Speaker 1
00:39:08.58 – 00:39:20.34

No one else, I don't know anybody else who did it this way. Because we had to do it in a way where we all got up and moved right. So it was crazy in the first place.

00:39:20.56 – 00:39:33.66

And we all took this chance to come here and in the beginning, a lot of guys moved long before there was a club. So we were just doing the vulcan and they had heard that, oh, they've got these wild ass shows they're doing in Texas indoors in November of 2020.

00:39:33.66 – 00:39:44.06

We were doing shows indoors and it just started coming. And then one day we did a show with Ron White, and Ron White grabbed my shoulders, he got off.

00:39:44.16 – 00:39:51.32

So he hadn't done stand up in, like, eight months. He grabs my shoulders. Whatever the fuck we have to do, we're doing this.

00:39:51.64 – 00:39:59.36

He goes, When are you going to get your fucking club open up? I go, let's fucking go Ron White, let's do this shit. He's like, let's fucking go.

00:39:59.72 – 00:40:01.22

I mean, he had just gotten off stage.

2Speaker 2
00:40:01.64 – 00:40:02.92

Yeah, and then he gave you these cigars.

1Speaker 1
00:40:03.12 – 00:40:04.36

Yeah, he loves these little cigars.

2Speaker 2
00:40:04.50 – 00:40:05.26

I like these a lot.

1Speaker 1
00:40:05.26 – 00:40:06.90

They're good if you want a whole cigar.

2Speaker 2
00:40:07.40 – 00:40:08.96

I never smoked a cigar until I hung out with Bert Kreischer.

1Speaker 1
00:40:08.96 – 00:40:10.46

You want a big one, you want a real cigar.

2Speaker 2
00:40:10.72 – 00:40:11.84

Yeah, I'll take a big cigar.

1Speaker 1
00:40:12.10 – 00:40:13.20

Hold on, please hold.

00:40:20.76 – 00:40:25.20

Get you some of these foundation cigars. We got our own cigar, bro.

2Speaker 2
00:40:25.64 – 00:40:26.82

You make those cigars.

1Speaker 1
00:40:26.96 – 00:40:29.18

No foundation cigars do.

2Speaker 2
00:40:29.66 – 00:40:34.48

Oh, I've never heard of that company. I'm new to the cigar world, I just got into it, like in the summer, I'm learning.

1Speaker 1
00:40:34.50 – 00:40:43.56

Shout out to my man Nick, Yeah, this dude. I was super skeptical. He goes, We made you some cigars. I'm like, come on, man.

00:40:43.64 – 00:40:59.08

There's probably going to be wax cigars with a label on it, but no, this dude is like a real cigar head. He travels to the places where they grow it, he's involved in the whole process of it, he makes a bunch of really dope cigars.

2Speaker 2
00:40:59.38 – 00:41:02.70

Like Willy Wonka when he traveled to the jungle to find oompa loompas and stuff.

1Speaker 1
00:41:02.98 – 00:41:07.80

Something like that any time I hear like, you know how them work, dudes?

2Speaker 2
00:41:08.54 – 00:41:09.76

Like that, Oh shit.

1Speaker 1
00:41:10.74 – 00:41:32.48

Any time I meet a dude who's like, really into something, like my friend Evan from Black Rifle Coffee, that dude is like, super, super into coffee. And he's got this laboratory at his factory. He took us to the Black Rifle warehouses, where they do all their work there.

00:41:32.48 – 00:41:45.86

And do all their roasting, they have these giant roasting machines. And he's got this laboratory where he's like testing different weights of how much coffee you put in different temperatures.

00:41:46.50 – 00:41:53.70

And they've got these dudes sitting around, sipping them, trying to figure out what's the perfect way to do this shit, like, they're doing it like a lab.

2Speaker 2
00:41:54.58 – 00:41:55.54

Professional sippers.

1Speaker 1
00:41:59.10 – 00:42:04.08

But that's when you're going to get that dope coffee, that really good coffee.

2Speaker 2
00:42:04.28 – 00:42:08.48

I just got into coffee this year, coffee and cigars. That's 2023. Ralph right there.

1Speaker 1
00:42:11.08 – 00:42:12.36

I had this dude on once.

2Speaker 2
00:42:15.04 – 00:42:17.58

I always forget his name. There are a lot of dudes on here once.

1Speaker 1
00:42:17.86 – 00:42:27.88

PETER JULIAN Yeah, I've had a lot of dudes on there, but I had this dude on who was a real coffee expert and he schooled me in all the different kinds of coffee and how they grow them.

00:42:27.94 – 00:42:29.12

And how they take care of them.

2Speaker 2
00:42:29.82 – 00:42:37.82

Hey, you had this one guy on here once. I remember watching the clips on YouTube where he was talking about, like Christianity, like ancient Christianity.

1Speaker 1
00:42:38.58 – 00:42:38.76

Yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:42:39.12 – 00:42:40.38

And he asked you.

00:42:42.80 – 00:42:44.76

I think it was a clip about psychedelics.

1Speaker 1
00:42:45.62 – 00:42:45.88

Yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:42:46.48 – 00:42:52.88

But I forgot the exact question he asked you, He was like, Can I tell you? He was like, Can I tell you about?

00:42:53.58 – 00:43:02.52

Like the way Christianity was, or something like that. I forgot the exact question he asked you, and you said, yeah, and he was like, yeah.

00:43:02.76 – 00:43:10.18

And he kind of laughed a little bit, he actually scared the shit out of me. If I would have heard the guy laugh after, he's like, Can I tell you about this?

00:43:10.34 – 00:43:12.64

And I'm like, Yeah, and then he laughs, I'd be like, Never mind, bro.

00:43:14.50 – 00:43:15.54

Why did he laugh?

1Speaker 1
00:43:15.68 – 00:43:19.54

He's like, What are you going to tell me? are you going to say a magic spell? What are you going to say?

2Speaker 2
00:43:20.04 – 00:43:28.20

He was talking about, I don't remember all of it, I just remember he was talking about like that. Christianity used to be kind of like a cult, and then he was saying something about.

00:43:28.20 – 00:43:30.24

They went underground with it to watch it or something.

1Speaker 1
00:43:30.24 – 00:43:33.10

Who was that, Jamie? you know who that is?

3Speaker 3
00:43:33.56 – 00:43:35.06

I was thinking he was talking about Brian Murray.

1Speaker 1
00:43:35.12 – 00:43:35.90

Brian Murray Probably.

3Speaker 3
00:43:36.58 – 00:43:37.18

It could have been somebody else.

1Speaker 1
00:43:37.32 – 00:43:39.00

It might have been Brian Brian's amazing.

2Speaker 2
00:43:39.60 – 00:43:47.50

Yeah, I mean, it was a cool episode. I learned a lot of shit about Christianity that I later forgot, but it was just that one.

00:43:47.74 – 00:43:54.46

The one way, he asked the question. That scared the shit out of me, and I was watching the clip, like at 1am, just chilling, you know? So I turned that off.

00:43:54.56 – 00:43:57.48

And I just turned the lights on in my room. I was like, alright, that freaked me out a little bit.

1Speaker 1
00:43:57.72 – 00:44:07.04

It's what's interesting about Christianity. Everybody wants to know what was the first shit they wrote down, like everybody knows, like the New Testament, right?

00:44:07.14 – 00:44:10.88

The New Testament But then you go, what about the Old Testament, like?

00:44:12.40 – 00:44:13.58

Don't pay attention to that.

2Speaker 2
00:44:13.84 – 00:44:17.26

Yeah, I don't really like that that they be changing shit, you know, give me one set of rules.

00:44:17.38 – 00:44:21.38

Leave it now. If you choose to follow them or not, that's on you, but don't change shit.

1Speaker 1
00:44:21.50 – 00:44:32.82

Even if it is the writings of Jesus, even if it is the writings, even if all that is unadulterated, it's not been altered by human beings, it's still put together by people.

00:44:32.98 – 00:44:34.64

Written down by people.

2Speaker 2
00:44:35.18 – 00:44:36.42

You ever do that thing?

1Speaker 1
00:44:36.50 – 00:44:37.82

And very different than the Old Testament.

2Speaker 2
00:44:38.14 – 00:44:46.64

They, I remember, they did this, like at Barber College once, just to, like, teach us a lesson or some shit. I don't know, but they had this long bench.

00:44:47.54 – 00:44:54.00

And they sat down, all the students and our instructor whispered a secret to the first person right on the far right.

1Speaker 1
00:44:54.14 – 00:44:54.96

And then they got to keep telephone game.

2Speaker 2
00:44:55.22 – 00:45:00.98

Yeah, you got to just keep whispering the secret down the line. And by the end of the line, it's a totally different sentence, right?

00:45:01.24 – 00:45:03.90

That shit made me never want to, like, check out the Bible anymore.

1Speaker 1
00:45:05.42 – 00:45:09.50

Yeah, the Bible was, they think they, it was an oral.

00:45:10.20 – 00:45:14.68

Tradition for hundreds, if not a thousand years, before they ever wrote it down.

2Speaker 2
00:45:15.48 – 00:45:16.16

God damn.

1Speaker 1
00:45:16.76 – 00:45:17.16

Yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:45:17.86 – 00:45:19.00

That's a lot of mix up.

1Speaker 1
00:45:19.40 – 00:45:22.70

Could be, Yeah, for sure, people could have added some shit in there.

2Speaker 2
00:45:22.82 – 00:45:25.62

You religious at all, like you go to church or anything, you follow a religion.

1Speaker 1
00:45:25.80 – 00:45:29.72

I'm not religious, but I'm not an atheist. people always say I'm an atheist, I'm not an atheist.

2Speaker 2
00:45:29.98 – 00:45:37.76

I feel like I'm on something like that, you know, there's something going on out there. I mean, I grew up like, somewhat Catholic.

00:45:38.46 – 00:45:42.76

Like how most Mexican Catholics are like, maybe you don't go to church, but you do this thing all the time.

00:45:43.26 – 00:45:45.92

So like, I still like, you know, like, but yeah.

00:45:46.00 – 00:45:51.66

There is I don't know, man, I don't know what to believe, I do want to have a religion, I'm not going to lie.

1Speaker 1
00:45:51.66 – 00:45:56.76

It would be nice if there was a good one, one you could like, really lock into, like, man, you guys are making sense.

2Speaker 2
00:45:56.90 – 00:46:02.18

Well, I just like that people really like, lock into something and I don't know, man, I want to.

00:46:02.36 – 00:46:06.58

I want to, like, defend something, I want to be like, you don't speak that way about Allah.

1Speaker 1
00:46:07.48 – 00:46:09.76

Right, but it's a nice gang to be a part of.

2Speaker 2
00:46:09.86 – 00:46:10.12

Right?

1Speaker 1
00:46:10.26 – 00:46:11.36

Very aggressive gang.

2Speaker 2
00:46:11.56 – 00:46:17.02

But I also feel like the gang I belong to, whether I like it or not, is like the comedy world, yeah.

00:46:17.02 – 00:46:17.88

Just make fun of everything.

1Speaker 1
00:46:18.54 – 00:46:24.76

Yeah, that's our gang, but I think religion helps a lot of people, and I don't necessarily think it's.

00:46:25.90 – 00:46:32.90

Oh yeah, I think it came from somewhere, and I think there's there's, like, real wisdom to these stories that people wrote down.

00:46:33.02 – 00:46:39.74

Thousands of years ago. But there's a lot of problems in the translations too, because they're translating shit from.

00:46:40.62 – 00:46:46.84

Like the here's a good example, the Dead Sea Scrolls is the oldest version of the Bible.

00:46:46.84 – 00:46:52.80

That they're aware of, and it's from Qumran, it's these they have these like.

00:46:53.60 – 00:47:01.76

These caves, and they found these big pottery vessels with scrolls in them, and these scrolls.

00:47:01.94 – 00:47:06.80

They're all made of animal skins, like that's how old they are. Oh shit.

00:47:06.80 – 00:47:13.94

That was their paper, they wrote, on animal skins, and one of the ways that they figured out. They had to put it all together again, and a lot of it was crumpled.

00:47:14.06 – 00:47:20.82

And fallen apart. And so they had to do DNA testing so that they could figure out, okay, this sample.

00:47:20.82 – 00:47:28.78

These samples are all from this cow, and so we'll put these here. And it took them fucking years and years, and years.

00:47:28.92 – 00:47:34.02

To do this and out of after 14 years of deciphering it.

00:47:34.10 – 00:47:40.80

There was this one guy, his name was John Marco Allegro, and he was he was an ordained minister.

00:47:41.06 – 00:47:46.58

But he was also agnostic, because when he studied theology, the more he started studying it, the more he was like, wait.

00:47:46.68 – 00:47:54.70

What the fuck is, how come this is so much different than this? And what's the origins of these words? And where does this all come from? So this guy studies this dead sea scrolls.

00:47:54.74 – 00:48:05.32

For 14 years. And then he writes a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and he said that the whole Christian religion was really about psychedelic mushrooms.

00:48:05.54 – 00:48:14.66

And fertility rituals that these people had hidden, all of these stories, in these allegories and in these tales.

00:48:14.74 – 00:48:23.32

They'd hidden all this information on what to do and when to do it, and that all. It's a very, very controversial book.

00:48:23.84 – 00:48:25.36

But that all of the even.

2Speaker 2
00:48:25.56 – 00:48:26.70

Do you think they got it at Barnes and Nobles?

1Speaker 1
00:48:27.48 – 00:48:31.84

I think you probably get it now, I know it got, yeah, it got republished, it was.

00:48:31.96 – 00:48:35.50

I think it was bought out by the Catholic Church for a long time and then.

2Speaker 2
00:48:35.74 – 00:48:38.30

I didn't know the Catholic Church was buying out books like fucking.

1Speaker 1
00:48:38.36 – 00:48:39.08

They didn't want this one out.

2Speaker 2
00:48:39.16 – 00:48:40.34

Some wolf of Wall Street shit.

1Speaker 1
00:48:40.74 – 00:48:44.54

I don't know if that's true, I need to find out if that's true, because I've said it before, because someone told it to me, dude.

2Speaker 2
00:48:44.56 – 00:48:46.22

You say with enough confidence, it's true.

1Speaker 1
00:48:46.22 – 00:48:48.56

Yeah, if you say with enough confidence, you can get, but people will.

2Speaker 2
00:48:48.74 – 00:48:50.34

Catholic Church bought out GameStop a couple years ago.

1Speaker 1
00:48:51.94 – 00:48:54.34

They're responsible for Battlefield Earth. Hell yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:48:55.02 – 00:48:57.42

Man, that's crazy that they were riding on like cow skin.

1Speaker 1
00:48:57.66 – 00:48:58.54

Yeah, that's all they had.

2Speaker 2
00:48:58.80 – 00:49:02.52

Fucking cows, man, cows have never had it easy on this earth. Nope, nope.

00:49:02.58 – 00:49:06.02

Colby beef Even when they have a good life, it's only for colby beef, you know what I mean?

1Speaker 1
00:49:06.28 – 00:49:09.14

Right, even if they have a good life, it's only like 16 years old.

2Speaker 2
00:49:09.38 – 00:49:14.70

What is it like in Japan, where they really like massage them? Yeah, imagine being that cow.

00:49:14.70 – 00:49:17.62

Just being like, Damn, I've heard about cows, they get slaughtered, but.

00:49:17.80 – 00:49:22.80

Man, I got lucky to be born in this life and they're like, nope, you got slightly luckier than the other cows.

00:49:23.04 – 00:49:24.02

But still a cow.

1Speaker 1
00:49:24.22 – 00:49:30.40

The thing about cows is if you care about, like, suffering, if you.

00:49:30.40 – 00:49:36.86

You can buy beef from a regenerative farm where that cow dies instantly, lives a great life until it dies.

00:49:37.46 – 00:49:41.94

And then you'd say like, no, we should let them free, they should be free the way they die.

00:49:41.98 – 00:49:45.50

When they're free is horrific, yeah, horrific, yeah.

00:49:45.54 – 00:49:46.80

Because they get eaten to death.

2Speaker 2
00:49:47.32 – 00:49:49.30

Oh, yeah, right, yeah, they get eaten, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:49:49.82 – 00:49:55.52

Most of them are not going to make it past being a calf mound. Lions, bears, wolves.

00:49:55.74 – 00:50:00.38

They bring wolves back, they brought wolves back everywhere. now wolves are in Colorado.

00:50:00.38 – 00:50:02.90

Now they're moving them in, Yeah, they're moving them in.

2Speaker 2
00:50:03.00 – 00:50:07.78

Fat ass, I don't know. The wolves are back in town, the wolves are back in town.

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