God shields Trump as he seeks Unity while Dems fall into chaos

2024-07-21 00:57:42

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Welcome to another edition of After Dark on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network. I

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am your host, Rob, and my co-host tonight is Heather Robinson of the New York Post.

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Heather, what can I say? The Republican National Convention has ended and it was won for the

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definitely a unified party that not only was unified, but was exuding unification for the

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world as a whole. And as you saw last night, Trump took the stage. And I said previously

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on all of our other shows, definitely a changed man. I know you had cautioned us during the

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last show that we want to change. We want the same Trump, those policies to push through all

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the BS. And I think that we got that. He was somber when he spoke. And what I really liked

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is that toward the end of the middle of the speech, he said, I humbly ask for your vote,

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asking the American people. And he said that we're all a part of this. And I just took some notes

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here. And I'm going to let you jump in because there's just so much to talk about. I was just

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like, wow, this is the man that we need for such a time. He said, together, we will launch a new

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era of safety, prosperity and freedom for citizens of every race, religion, color and creed. The

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discord and division in our society must be healed. As Americans, we are bound together by a single

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fate and a shared destiny. We rise together or we fall apart. That says it all, Heather.

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I thought, wow. And then in his opening, when he walked us through what happened,

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that horrible day when he was, this gunman tried to assassinate him. And still, we don't know

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why he wasn't protected the way he should have been. Still, Kim Shietle is refusing to resign.

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Maybe she'll resign while we're having the show. But the refusal on her part,

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I just can't, I can't fathom it. But I want you to jump in and let me know what you thought about

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last night, the last day of the convention. Yes, Rob. Well, I felt that he was, he did seem

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something different about him, a little more humble, a little more contained, but still strong

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and resilient as ever. I think no one could possibly question the man's toughness or

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dedication to country at this point. In a certain way, he said, I felt safe because I had God on my

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side. He noted that the crowd of thousands of people there did not panic, did not start running

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and trampling each other when the shots rang out. I really think that this caricature the media has

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pushed of him and of his supporters all these years. I think I don't see how anyone who's

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at all objective could fail to question that even just a little bit at this point.

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I think that I was proud of him and it was good to see his whole family there with him.

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I had wondered about Ivanka because she wasn't there the first few nights and I had heard some

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chatter that she didn't want him to run again, which I can understand, honestly. I think if it

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were my father, I would be very worried about him, all the abuse he's taken, all the stress

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at this point, the attempt on his life, but he won't be stopped. And I think that seeing how

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his children love him, hearing Eric and his daughter-in-law, Lara, and his granddaughter, Kai,

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hearing the way they spoke about him, the sincerity, the warmth, the love, the protectiveness.

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I think that we got a glimpse of where his strength comes from. Of course, it's him.

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He's a remarkable man, but he has a remarkable, strong, cohesive big family too behind him.

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It was beautiful to see.

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It was very beautiful to see the unification last night. Each of the speakers that came out

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spoke. We had Hulk Hogan to come out and to rip his shirt off in support. We had Daniel White

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who spoke. Just talking about, especially the everyday people, how their lives have been

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changed. And those who lost family members due to the increase in crime and violence.

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And then you have a presidential candidate, a former president,

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to be able to give his own personal story as to how he almost lost his life.

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It was moving. And him taking that stage, being just completely a somber Trump. Now,

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toward the end, he got into that macho man and riving up the crowd. But the cadence in the

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speech from beginning to end, I thought it was well-timed. And you would have to be a person

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who just doesn't, without emotion, to come out and try and attack him and say he was being

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disingenuous. Now, of course, there were the fact-checkers who are still coming out saying,

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oh, he was talking about black jobs. What black jobs? Oh, he was saying about the economy. What

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did he do? And I would submit to them, you need to step back and stop pushing this rhetoric that

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you've been pushing, knowing that it's going to frighten certain people, a certain group of people.

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And it's all geared toward the black voters because they're afraid the black voters

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are going to abandon them. And I would say to them, if they're looking at someone else,

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then you never had them. And your policies never did anything for them to keep them there.

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And while you're trying to say that he misspoke or he said something wrong,

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what is the truth on your part? What has your party done? They can't tell you. They will come

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up with the same old rhetoric that he's a bad man and you can't trust him. Even within the

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Democratic Party, they're having all of this ruckus as to who's going to run, who's not going

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to. And it's like a house of cards that they created that's falling down. And I think that

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our side and definitely our side in the media must do more to point them out. I mean, poignantly,

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just point them out and say, this person said this, and it's a lie. Because when we don't do

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it, what happened this past Saturday, almost a week ago, happens again. Because you can't let

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lies like that, that hateful rhetoric go unchallenged. If they're going to constantly

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challenge us, then we need to point them out and challenge them. I mean, and break it down.

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This is what you said, and it was wrong. But again, going back to Trump, I mean, the man that

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he is rising to the occasion, only mentioning Joe's name once. And he didn't use the names that

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he would normally use, Crooked Joe, and he stayed clear of that. Because he's a man wanting to bring

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the party together, knowing that it can be done. He sees the need to do it. And as you said, having

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his family out on stage with him. And I saw an article somewhere, they said that Melania broke

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tradition by not speaking at the convention. I think it was Barbara Bush who first spoke

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some years ago. And I'm like, okay, well, it's okay for her not to speak. She's not required

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to speak simply because Barbara Bush started it some years ago doesn't mean it has to continue.

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I think that a lot of times people get stuck in, well, they did it this way, we should do it this

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way again. Doesn't necessarily mean that it's right or wrong. She didn't want to, she didn't

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have to. But of course, the media is saying, well, she doesn't want to be with them because

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they're going to divorce. And just, again, just giving more gas to the fume, to the fire,

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to set it ablaze, to get people thinking as opposed to focusing on the good, what this man has done.

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And that, as he said, I'm here because of God Almighty, because I shouldn't be here.

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Had I not turned and he said, I've never done that before. And we all know that he's never

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done it before. Had I not, we wouldn't be here in this joyous moment. It would have been something

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completely different. And for him to recognize that, that introspection that people have when

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they have these near death experiences, it's just, Heather, I'm speechless. Because it's one of those

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moments. His toughness is really something to behold. And, you know, in terms of the fact,

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I'd like to point out, you know, some of the most important facts, such as he pointed out that

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Iran has $250 billion now. And when he was president, Iran was broke. You know, when he

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talks about how these horrible attacks and wars would not have happened had he been president. I

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mean, that's a fact, you know, that Iran wouldn't have had the money to fund Hamas.

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This whole idea, you know, that somehow talking to our adversaries was wrong. I mean,

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you know, suddenly the left, when it came to Trump, you know, became the biggest proponents of

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cold and hot wars. But the reality was the world was much more at peace with his leadership.

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He's simply a tougher, stronger man than Biden. And he had them scared, you know.

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You know, one thing I like to say, Rob, two skeptics of him being reelected. And, you know,

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this isn't really my view at all, because I think he's quite sane and stable. But for people who

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are pretty deep into the indoctrination they've received, that he's dangerous, he's crazy, he's

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scary, I say to them, you know, think about it. If you're dealing with a world that in the big

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picture, there's a lot of lawlessness, tyrants, dictators, terrorists, you know, think about the

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neighborhood, you know, if there are gangs in the neighborhood, and there's a guy who's really tough

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and perceived as insane, are they going to want to mess with him? So, you know, think about that.

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Think about how tough he is. And also, you know, how he's perceived. It was really good for the

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whole world's security when he was in charge. So, you know, I like that he pointed out that

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that the simple fact that Iran has become enriched under Biden, I think of all the

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things that Biden has done, that may be one of the worst and the most incomprehensible.

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He talked a little bit about the attack on Ukraine and the war now, which is

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just simply unwinnable. I do believe he can quickly, quickly help resolve that, because

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America's driving it, as you know, at this point. I think both sides have taken a beating.

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As any good lawyer knows, that's when you get people to compromise, just as a matter of logic,

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you know, and I think it can be done. And I think it's time for us to focus on our own country.

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And I think he brought that home. I liked, you know, I thought what he had to say about an Iron

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Dome for America was interesting. That reminded me of Israeli thinking in the sense that, you

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know, you focus on defense, you know, and I think that he really did give us some hope when he said

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these years of weakness and war will be over. And let's hope, amen, you know, that he can bring that

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strength back to the White House, to the world. I, for one, you know, felt a little comforted and

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felt some hope after hearing him. And I want to add also is that the sign of a true leader,

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someone once pointed out to me, is a person who does not start war, but prevents war. And you're

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able to do that because of your standing, because of what you're exhibiting. And definitely when he

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was in office, the adversaries or opposition said that he was going to start World War III

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and have all these wars, and it didn't happen. I mean, four years did not happen. What did happen

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is that they, the Democrats, created war within our own borders with neighbors fighting

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its neighbors because of their lies. And see, that's something else that has to be pointed out.

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And here on After Dark, we're going to point it out. And it needs to be pointed out more so,

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because after Saturday, just an awakening, I'm like, we don't have time to sit back and allow

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them to constantly lie to us. You look right now, Biden has COVID, and they're telling us,

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oh, well, COVID is not going to stop him, just like a bullet isn't going to stop Trump. It's

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like they're almost the same thing. And I'm thinking, are you serious for them to even,

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to say that? And you have people nodding their head, yeah, that's right, that's right. And I'm

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thinking, stop and listen to what they're saying. These are two different things. The survival rate

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of someone who has COVID is almost 99.1%, whereas to take a bullet, everyone is looking at this,

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all experts are saying, he should not be here. And he recognizes it. But because of the hate

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that the media has driven, because they're afraid that they're going to lose power,

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because they're afraid that their whole house of cards of lies is falling down,

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and they can't do anything about it, they will keep pushing this agenda.

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You know, I was reading a piece from Barack Obama, who came out, and I wish they would put this out

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there more so, but I guess they won't, because they don't want their folks to say, oh, man,

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look at what Barack Obama is saying. But it was on media, and I don't like that news outlet,

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because they're full of lies, and they exaggerate. But he came out, and he said, Barack Obama speaks

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out, this was five days ago, we should all be relieved Trump wasn't seriously hurt. Now,

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I think that if the media had really said, this is what Barack Obama said, and really ran this

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on a steady reel, I think that the acrimony that's still going on here now, especially within

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the media saying that, you know, or people coming out saying, well, next time they should have

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succeeded, if you're going to shoot a gun, you should have succeeded, you know, just really

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nasty things like that. Had they put that there, hopefully, people would have said, wait, wait a

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minute, our first black president is even saying that we should be thankful, as opposed to us

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coming up with this hateful rhetoric. But again, it starts at the top. And then it goes down. And

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you don't have anyone at the top to stand up and be a leader, lead. This is a moment for Biden to

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lead. This is a moment for Barack Obama, albeit he's not in office, to stand up and say, look,

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this was my opponent. This is my VP's opponent. But we all have different ideas, policy ideas.

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But when something like this happened, we need to come together and be one. Remember back in the

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90s, when Bill Clinton was in office, and he learned that Al Qaeda, one of the terrorist

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groups, had put a hit on former President Bush, the first Bush's head, he went and he bombed them,

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showing unity that you, you know, we might be, our parties might have a difference of opinion.

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But if you think you're going to come after an American, you're sadly mistaken. Whereas,

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now, we're finding out the same thing with Trump. And the Biden administration,

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seemingly made light of it and didn't do anything because this is the same Biden administration

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that has given money to Iran. So while they're attacking Trump, it's like, look at what

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this guy has done to weaken us, to weaken our presence on the global stage. But people don't

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see it, Heather, they're so busy going after these little tidbits that the media has fed,

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making Trump out to be this bad man, this bad orange man, when at the end of the day,

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this man has a heart of gold for the country. You're listening to After Dark on the America

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Out Loud talk radio network. And my co host tonight is Heather Robinson on the New York Post.

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And we're back, second half of the show. And my host tonight is Heather Robinson,

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and we are just doing a rundown of the Republican convention that took place in Milwaukee,

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Wisconsin. And if you've missed it, I would say it's more than likely going to be on repeat this

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weekend. I would encourage you all to go and watch it because if ever there was a party showing unity,

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Now, going back to our discussion, the convention and unification and Trump and everything,

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there's so much that's happening, Heather. When we started out last week, we were going to take

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the show in a completely different direction. We were still talking about Biden and the Democrats

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trying to get him to step down, and they're still doing it. And tonight, by the time we air,

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there's a possibility that Biden would have stepped down from the presidency and allowed

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Kamala Harris to step up, because I think they realize they overplayed their hand

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with the persecutions, with the lies, and then with the failure of the Secret Service Department

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to protect Trump. And the noise is coming out. They're trying to get their folks on the same

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page. Some of them are saying, oh, we wish it had happened, and oh, we shouldn't say this.

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There's just so much unknown and then known that we know that we don't like. And as we said on one

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of our shows, we have Barack Obama behind the scenes trying to get Biden to step down, especially

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more so now that he has COVID. Biden even came out and said, you know, if there is an act of God,

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or if God told me to step down for some reason, I will do it, or if there's a medical condition.

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Well, no, there is a medical condition. Is he going to step down? It remains to be seen. Like

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I said, while we're coming on live tonight, there's a possibility he'll say, okay, I'm going

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to step down. I'm going to turn it over to Kamala. But there are so many risks in doing that. But

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while they figure that out, going back to our party, the Republicans, Heather, they're unified,

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and they are ready to win this thing in November, regardless as to what the critics are saying,

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they're in it to win it. And as Trump said, I want to be the president of everyone,

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the United States. I want to be Republican, Democrats, Independents. I'm here. I want to

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lead. I humbly ask for your vote. And during commercial break, you reminded me of something,

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again, showing us how a real leader is and what a real leader does with the hostages that Trump

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brought back home. You want to share that with our listeners? Yes. Trump brought home

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50 American hostages from all around the world without a shot being fired. Google it. People

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were shocked to hear that because the media pretty much glossed over it. But he did so much

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good, tough negotiating that he brought home Americans from all around the world. I mean,

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I think that this reelection of Trump is the best hope, by the way, for the Israeli hostages who

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are being cruelly held by Hamas, including several Americans who Biden never mentions,

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and two parents of one of these young men who's a dual citizen of America and Israel spoke one

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night at the convention. I think that Trump's reelection, anybody who cares about those

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hostages should consider that that may be really the only hope for them. It reminds me a little

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bit of what I, I was a little girl, but what happened in 1980, you know, crazy as these times

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are, and in some ways remarkable as they are, there are patterns in history. And I think there's

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a lot of parallels between the presidency of Jimmy Carter and the presidency of Joe Biden.

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Weakness, malaise, lack of respect for America that led to instability elsewhere in the world,

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Americans being abused and bullies around the world, knowing they could get away with it.

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Remember, Iran took our hostages in 1979, too. And the very day Reagan was inaugurated,

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not even when, I don't think it was, was it the inauguration or was it when he was elected?

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The inauguration.

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Yeah, they gave him, gave him up. They knew, they knew they were in for it if they didn't.

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And I think that the same thing could very well happen here. Please God. I mean, of course,

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I hope the hostages are released before then. But I think, I think they know, Hamas,

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their days are really numbered. You know, for real, if, if President Trump is reelected and

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there's any hope for our, our dear people, our Israeli and American people, I think it will be

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Trump's reelection. So anybody who cares about the hostages ought to think about that and think

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about how when Reagan was elected, that's when the hostages came home.

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There's just so much to think about when you, when you see what's happening right now. And I

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think that because there's a lot of noise coming from the media, the media has decided who they

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want to nominate as the president. They think that we should follow alone. And I would submit

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to people, you've got to pull back. They've been lying to you. They lied to you about Biden's

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mental condition. They lied to you about Russia collusion. They've just been lying, lying, lying,

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and wanting you to think what they're saying is truth. But it isn't. They're just twisting

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the narrative. And a lot of people out there, not our listeners, but maybe some of their friends

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enjoy listening to Joe Scarborough. And I was just, I would say, I would submit to you,

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look at how he has, you know, changed from not just on a weekly basis, but a daily basis telling

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us that Joe Biden, he and his wife, Mika Brzezinski, is telling us that Joe Biden is fit.

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He's sharp, sharp as a tack, and he's ready to take Trump on. And all of those who don't

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support him go, you know, F you. He actually said this. And now this same man,

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whose show was pulled off the air earlier this week because they were afraid that some guests

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might come on and say something that they shouldn't have said, is now saying that,

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well, maybe Joe should step down. Maybe Joe isn't ready. And I'm saying, wait a minute,

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what changed? This is just a matter of days. You were telling us that this man was ready to be

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president. Now you're telling us, well, maybe he isn't, maybe he should step down.

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Well, that was always the case. But again, they were gaslighting the American people,

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did not want the American people to see the truth. And because there's such a hate for Trump,

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no matter what this man does, people see it as being, oh, he's bad. He's evil. He's a racist.

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And if you were to ask, just point out to me what you're talking about. They can't do it.

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They can't because they're running on these narratives that the media has created.

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You know, one thing last night that really caught my attention, among so many other things,

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is when Trump recognized the family of that man, the firefighter, and I'm probably going

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to mispronounce his name, Corey Compratore. That was powerful, Heather.

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Yes, yes, it was very powerful. He said, what a fine man he was. And I think the simplicity

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and the truth of the tribute to that wonderful man was very moving. And I felt that President

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Trump was sincere, you know, and we have to remember that, thank God, President Trump was

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spared. But how terrible and tragic that that wonderful man was murdered. And what a fine man

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he was. Yes. So all of those that are saying that this was staged, this was planned by Trump,

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that the blood that we saw this year was possibly ketchup. And these are people in the media that

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are saying this. I'm thinking, are you serious? Yeah, they're in the media, commentators that are

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saying this. And I'm thinking, but what about that man who lost his life, protecting his family?

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What about them? Was that made up? I mean, it's a harsh thing to say for people to come out and,

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you know, just to say something as evil. Now, that's evil right there, evil personified.

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This man lost his life trying to protect his family. And you're going to say, oh, well,

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maybe this was made up. And now, you know, Trump is trying to be the victim. And we spoke about

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this the other night, Joy Reid saying, Trump, he's trying to be the victim, and we can't allow

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him to be the victim. Well, unfortunately, he is the victim. He doesn't want to be. He didn't ask

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for this. Right, right. He doesn't make his life about being a victim. I think that there's a lot

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of that, you know, on the left. Well, anyway, maybe today isn't the day to. Well, no, but we

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have to compare and contrast that they like to create victims. He didn't want to be a victim.

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He didn't ask for this. And they like to be victims. And as you said during the first block,

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he didn't have to do any of this. I mean, this man, he is a billionaire. He could have walked

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away. And I hope our listeners, and I'm sure that they are aware of this, he could have walked away

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when they started persecuting him with all these charges. He could have said, look, I'm just going

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to walk away. And even before that, because he knew, and they weren't letting him know, if you

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do, this is what's going to happen to you. This is what we're going to do. So stay on the sideline.

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But he did it. Like he said, I'm standing between them and you. He took a bullet for the American

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people, unfortunately. And if people don't realize that, and they don't, and I don't know what it

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takes. At one point, Heather, who was oftentimes quiet on social media, I have my own social media

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that I have my professional social media, and speaking out about politics, because I know it's

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very divisive. And I'm just not going to weigh into it. But after Trump was shot, I went on my

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personal social media page and I said, this is unacceptable. And we need to wake up and realize

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what's happening. And it was met with a lot of resistance from friends like, oh, I can't believe

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this. And this man is evil. And I'm like, well, tell me how. Please explain to me how. And it was

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the same rhetoric that you always hear. He's a racist. Tell me how. Well, he said he doesn't

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want, he doesn't protect the rights of women. How? When you have a party that can't tell the

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difference between a man and a woman. Oh, well, he said this said, in Charlottesville, okay, he said

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on both sides were good people. Did you go back and read the statement? And then someone said to me,

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MAGA, Make America Great Again. That's code. I'm like, code for what? Do you realize that

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Bill Clinton used the same phrase? Do you realize that Barack Obama used the same phrase?

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They went away. They said absolutely nothing. And I'm like, I don't want you to take my word for it.

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You look it up. And I even got a video of Clinton talking about Make America Great Again.

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And they posted it. And I'm like, here it is. Nothing. It was as if though they didn't see it.

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So now they're going into this whole thing with Project 25. Project 25. I'm thinking,

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but that has nothing to do with Republicans. That is from a think tank. Remember, Democrats have

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think tank. They came up with these ideas and suggestions, but that has nothing to do with

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Republicans. So why are you tying the two together? Well, because Joy Reid is tying the two together.

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She was going to do a whole show on Project 25. And then I submitted to some people. I'm like,

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no, Project 25, again, it's from a think tank. I don't necessarily agree with everything that

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they're saying. I'm like, but are you aware that they're saying that children or parents should be

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able to take their taxpayer dollars and send their children to schools of their choice and take

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them out of public schools that are failing them? Are you aware that they're saying that there

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should not be the secrecy between children and the parents where a child can go to school and say,

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oh, I want to have a sex change and then not tell the parent? Are you aware that that's in there?

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Now, again, it has nothing to do with Republicans. But you guys are going in and you're looking at,

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oh, they want us to work from 40 days a week to 165 days a week. And I'm like, are you serious?

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But see, it's things like that, that the left picks up and then they try to just like,

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oh, this is what it's going to do. And it's going to put Black people Black in slavery.

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And I'm like, why do we constantly fall for that? Every year when there's a Republican,

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you guys go with this narrative, oh, they're going to put us back in slavery. And it doesn't happen.

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But it's a fear scare tactic, Heather, that they've been so successful in using. And it's

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time for us to call it out and push back. So I'm like, I'm just going to start posting this

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on my Facebook page to say, look, I don't usually post political things,

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but you guys need to know the truth because what you're being told is a lie. It's a lie.

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And I'm like, and if I lose friends because of it, so be it. But I'd rather people to have

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be informed and know the truth than the lie that's being told, Heather.

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Well, you know, you're a good man, Rob, and you're a brave one to stand for truth. You always have.

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And I give you tremendous credit. It takes courage. And I also stopped posting on my

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sort of personal social media, anything political because I felt it was thankless.

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I always tried to keep the dialogue respectful, but simply would assert facts. But you know,

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you're inspiring me. And maybe I will, you know, write something about President Trump's

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successful efforts to redeem hostages, American hostages from around the world,

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because that's something that's under the radar, you know, because the media wouldn't give them,

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you know, any credit for things. But that's very relevant now. And, you know,

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connected with that, speaking of lies, Biden has said, I believe he has said no Americans have

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died on his watch in war. And that's simply not true. You pointed out three Americans,

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three American sailors, they happen to be African Americans were killed by Iran.

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Biden said very little to nothing, did nothing, as far as I'm aware.

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Of the 13 Afghanistanis that were killed when they withdrew.

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And not to mention all the Israeli American dual citizens who were murdered by Hamas.

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You know, for him to make a claim like that is not only a lie, it shows how little he's affected

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by the death and the hurting and humiliation of our American people.

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Right. And people should know that.

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You know, that's, that's, that's a particularly lousy thing for him to say. And we need if we

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care about our American people and our and their lives and our soldiers and service members lives,

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we need President Trump, we need a president who will stand up for not let American blood be

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spilled like that. Without any.

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Yep, folks, we're up against another commercial break. And we're going to continue the

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conversation on the other side. And I'm glad you're joining us tonight. And I hope that these

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are moments of introspection for you and as to how the country is changing so fast. Before our

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Heather, I also want to bring up J.D. Vance, the vice president that Trump chose to run with him.

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I don't know if you had a chance to read Hillbilly Illogy or saw the movie. I haven't. I've heard

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that it's great. I saw the movie. Yes, it was wonderful. I want to watch it. But the statement

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that I want to make is, what's really interesting is that before he, when this book came out and the

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movie came out, he was a talk of town, the talk of the town. And the left loved him. They loved

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the movie. And he also wasn't a fan of Trump. And we said this in our show. Right. We said this in

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the previous night. But he came around and his metamorphosis, so to speak, I find interesting

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because a lot of other people came around also. And he said what a lot of big tech guys in San

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Francisco are saying, a lot of deep pocket guys are saying who were vehemently against Trump and

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said that Trump was going to destroy democracy, that Trump was a racist. And I mean, these are

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smart men that are saying this. J.D. Vance himself was smart, went to Harvard. And then

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they stopped. Now, here's the epiphany. They stopped. They did their research. They didn't

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rely on the media. They pulled the tape, pulled the transcripts and then read what Trump said.

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And we're like, wow, we got it wrong. Now, you and I both said this on the show,

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sometimes was Trump speaks, speaking hyperbole or he's when he says that people could he says

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things that you're able to put like more than one meaning in it. But we know what he's talking

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about as well as the media. But because they know that the average American is on the run,

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isn't paying attention, they go in, they dissect and then they formulate and narrate

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what they want you to think he said. And then they say, yes, he said it.

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The same thing with J.D. Vance. And when he took the stage the other night to accept the vice

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president, Trump's vice president, he said, I, like you, believed what they were telling me,

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didn't bother to go into my own research. But then I stopped. And I'm paraphrasing what he said,

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did my own research. And I thought, wow, this man is on the right page. And we have heard so

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many others. On the left who were against Trump, billionaires saying we got it wrong.

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We like this man. We were completely wrong. And it only takes you people going out and doing their

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own research and listening to what he had to say, as opposed to what the media is telling you.

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And it also takes a little bit of adult imagination and understanding to not take

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every word literally. I mean, it's been a puzzle to me all along, Rob, whether these smart people

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really do believe, like, I don't know, as an example, you know, if he says, I'm going to

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end the Ukraine war before I'm even president. You know, he makes these statements,

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two colorful statements to have an impact. He's a colorful speaker. I mean, do they really

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believe? I mean, they say that's a lie. He can't end it before he's president. I mean,

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it's like, do they really think that he's do they not understand that he's employing a little bit of

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a little bit of exaggeration and figurative language to make a point? Or are they just

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purposely sort of seizing on that and willfully being less sophisticated than they actually are?

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You know, I mean, he obviously has a way of speaking that sometimes employs a little bit of

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exaggeration and figurative language. And it's been a habit of the left for all these years

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to take every word literally. Do you know what I'm saying?

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Yep. I think it's purposefully, like I said, they know that the average American is so busy

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that they're not going to take the time to come and research. They're relying on

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the media to give them the soundbites or to summarize it all so they can run away with it.

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I was speaking to a friend of mine who said that she gets her news from Instagram. I thought,

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really? I mean, I don't see where on Instagram can you get news? I know they have little clippings,

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but that's what they're counting on. They're counting on the average American not going,

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taking the time to do the research or to listen to what he actually said. So they summarize it

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and they put it out there and people run with it. Again, we mentioned Joy Reid.

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While we're speaking, I'm looking at an article that just came by with her comparing

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Trump being shot by a gun to Biden having COVID. And she will stand by it. And because of her

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delivery, when she speaks it, people believe her. They'll say, oh yeah, that's true. They're

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one and the same. And it's like, wait a minute. Do you actually think COVID and being shot is one

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and the same? But they're not thinking. There are smart people that are out there. They just

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aren't thinking. They're just getting what they can get right. Yeah. And then using it to

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reconfirm their bias. Yeah, well. Which is already out there. They think that he's a bad

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person. So of course it's like, well, it must be true. Going back to what you said during the

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second block about Trump freeing a lot of American hostages. A lot of people are completely unaware

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of it. They don't know about it because the media doesn't talk about it. All the good that he's

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done. You would think that in this moment, they would say the articles that would be written

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would be, we probably have a difference of opinion, political opinions, policy-wise, but

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this man loves the country. No one has come out to say it. Now, Barack temporarily danced around

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it. But to just say, he loves the country. We have a policy difference, but he loves the country. He

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is a true American. Joe Biden comes out and says, oh, well, yeah, but he lied. Why aren't you guys

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looking at his lies? I mean, he was about to attack Lester Holt before he got sick because

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Lester Holt was asking him, you know, some of the things that you've been saying, don't you

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think you need to tone it down? Well, what about him? Come on, man. Come on, man. And people sit

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and they will hear it, but they don't pay attention. They're just waiting for what the

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media gives them. Hopefully this will jolt people into more attention. I mean, I don't have much

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hope for the Democrats, Rob, but I think that there are some people, maybe independents,

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certainly other Republicans who didn't like him. I had a conversation the other night with a friend

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who is not a Trump supporter, but is a veteran and a conservative, basically. And, you know,

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he said, I have to say, and he really can't stand Trump's personality. He said, I no longer believe

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that Trump is just doing this for his ego's sake. You know, after he almost lost his life,

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you know, it was like that jolted my friend into seeing that nobody, you know, who's just purely

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shallow and in it for the ego, after he almost gets his head blown off, you know, it has plenty

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of wealth and comfort, you know, would go back into the ring if all it was about was ego. And so

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maybe this dramatic turn of events will penetrate the consciousness of some people

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to see a little differently, you know, not through just the filter of the media commentators,

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but to see in a more nuanced way and to acknowledge some of the good Trump did as president

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and some of the good in him. I love, by the way, when this was a quote I wrote down,

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Trump said, as long as our energies are spent fighting each other, our destinies will remain

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out of reach. That's my real ardent hope, Rob, that, you know, for all of us, this negativity.

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And I admit I've fallen prey to it a little bit myself. You know, I mean, I think we, you know,

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we have to point out the excesses of the left, but, you know, at some point it's time to stop

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the critique and to focus on the future and what we want as a nation. And all this fighting

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against each other is draining and it's weakening us. We need to unite and focus our energies

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on what we do want as a country. And I thought that was a beautiful statement.

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It was a beautiful statement and it is true. There's a lot of truth to it. And like you said,

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sometimes we will fall victims because we're only human, but recognizing it and then moving

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forward. And I think that we here on After Dark, we do a good job at that, you know, being fair.

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There are a lot of things that we see that we don't like, but I am a strong proponent of calling

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out the obvious, calling out the lies that the media puts out there. And we're quick to say,

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as we've done on different shows, you know, our opinions and the way things can improve and,

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you know, Trump, sometimes he can be bombastic, but at the same time, his heart is in the right

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place. And I would not be supporting him if he was a racist or a person who's trying to destroy

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America, but he isn't, you know, he is a true patriot. And I remember back in the day before

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John McCain died, when someone came out and said that Barack Obama was a bad man and he was,

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you know, a terrorist. And John McCain came out and said, no, that's not true. He's a patriot.

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He's a good American. We have a difference of opinion on policies. And now it seems though,

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that if you have a difference of opinion, you're demonized. And we've got to get beyond that.

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And because if we don't, what happened this past almost a week ago could happen again.

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And we don't want that to happen again. And it's something serious that we should take serious.

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And I know that a lot of folks on the left, they're not taking it seriously. They want you

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to think that, oh, this happens all the time. No, we don't want that to happen all the time.

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And we should not feel that it does happen all the time. And we shouldn't say, oh, well,

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he deserved it. You know, that's his fault. Because if it does start happening all the time,

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then we lose ourselves as a nation. We become like the folks on the other side that we're saying,

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oh my God, how can Russia do this? How can China do this? And you see with every election that

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Russia has had, you know, one of his opponents, Putin's opponent disappears or becomes,

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befalls sick. And then bam, the person's dead. We don't want that. And we aren't that. And we

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can stop it by standing up for the truth and calling out anyone who thinks otherwise.

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And I think it starts with, and I've said before, it starts at the top,

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and then it goes down. And it starts with Biden. And it definitely starts with the media. And we

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have to do a better job at calling them out. Now, I want to pivot back to, now that I've said all

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that, I want to go back to the closing of the convention for the Republicans and Trump.

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God bless him. Because Heather, as I've said before, I don't think that I would be willing

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to move forward knowing the opposition, knowing the heel, the heavy heel mountain,

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not heel but mountain, that's in front of me that he has to climb. And although this was a

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great convention, although the Democrats are all up in arms as to try to get rid of Biden, and

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it is not going to be a cakewalk for Trump. So I don't want any of our listeners to think

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that this thing is all wrapped up. I don't have to vote. No, you have to vote. You need to go out.

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You need to vote. And as they're saying now, vote early. I know some of you don't like it.

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Vote early. Vote as soon as you can. Talk to your friends. Tell them to vote. Make certain

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that they vote. Take a picture that you did vote. But we cannot sit on our butts and think,

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oh, this is it. Trump said it all. This is going to be it. The Democrats are in a ray.

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They'll probably kick Biden out. Biden is this, and they'll have Kamala. We'll go against Kamala.

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