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When I think about it, and I don't know if I really like to think about it, but when I think about it,
I actually dislike a lot of people. I wouldn't say I hate a lot of people,
but I definitely dislike a lot of people. Now, to me, there's a big difference between dislike and
hate. To me, the definition of dislike is simply a feeling of aversion or disapproval,
just not being fond of someone, whereas the definition of hate is intense or passionate
dislike. When I think of hate, I think of an extreme form of dislike. I don't know if this
is necessarily perfectly correct definition-wise, but for the sake of today's conversation,
I'm going to distinguish dislike and hate by the level of intensity and the level that it impacts
the person experiencing the feeling. For the sake of today's conversation,
let's look at dislike as more of a subtle feeling that can be much more easily controlled,
and let's look at hatred as a feeling that's much more reckless and spellbinding and intense
and at times uncontrollable. Dislike is much easier to hide. You know, you can smile and wave
when you dislike somebody, but when you hate somebody, it's much harder. You might be able
to smile and wave, but you might also erupt, like who knows? I feel like hate is much more
consuming in a way. Dislike can be something that just sort of lingers in the back of your mind.
I want to discuss disliking people rather than hating people today, because I find dislike to
be much more complex. Hatred is much easier to analyze to me, okay? It's much easier to figure
out why you hate someone. It's such a strong extreme emotion. It usually stems from a strong
and extreme experience with that person, at least in my experience. It's usually very obvious why
you hate someone. You're not like digging through your mind trying to figure out why
you hate someone. Usually the person harmed you, or they intensely challenged your beliefs,
or they really, really make you jealous, whereas dislike is just much more complex.
Although it can stem from someone harming you, or disagreeing with you, or from jealousy,
I find that dislike can also stem from much more subtle things, like literally just thinking
someone's annoying. I find often with myself that I don't like someone, and I don't actually know
why at first, because it's not obvious to me. Like, I have to dig deep into myself to figure
out why I don't like them, and there are so many reasons why I find I don't like someone.
Sometimes I don't like people because they seem sort of fake to me. I just feel like they're not
being real with me, and it makes me sort of uncomfortable. I don't like being around them
because I feel uneasy. I don't feel like I'm experiencing their true self. Maybe I feel like
way that they're treating me is a certain way in order to gain something from me, or have me
believe something about them. There's something inauthentic about the way that they're presenting
themselves to me, and I don't like that. Sometimes I don't like people because I think their sense of
humor is frustrating. Sometimes I find other people's sense of humor to be just a bummer.
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, just a bummer. I'm like, this isn't funny, or this is kind of
annoying to me for some reason. Like, this kind of grinds my gears for some reason.
Listen, there are probably people who meet me who think my sense of humor fucking sucks. Great.
That's fine. That's totally fine. You know, we're not always going to see eye-to-eye on that in life.
It's very easy to disagree on sense of humor because everybody's sense of humor is a little
bit different. I tend to not like people who are really cocky, or have like a big attitude,
or a big ego. That's unfortunate. I don't like that. I obviously tend to dislike people who
have a bad attitude towards me, or a cold attitude towards me.
I don't like when I feel like people are competitive with me. I tend to dislike people
who have this subtle sort of competitiveness. Somebody being too nice can make me feel weird.
It's all across the board. Sometimes there's just something about their energy that I can't
pinpoint, that I just don't like. Now, a lot of times, people that I dislike didn't do anything
wrong. They weren't super mean. They didn't hurt me. I don't hate them. I don't even necessarily
feel aggravated by them. I just don't like them. This happens to me a lot, and I somewhat feel
guilty about it. Although, I am able to empathize and wish well to these people that I don't like.
But no matter how nice I am to them, and how much I try to wish them well,
I can't turn off the fact that I just don't fucking like them, and it just is what it is.
Now, if I just disliked 5% of the people I met, I wouldn't think much of it. But I feel like I
dislike probably 40%, maybe even 50% of the people that I meet on a day-to-day basis. Maybe 40%.
Now, obviously, that leaves me with actually liking 60% of the people I meet, which is
not too bad. But still, there's this 40% of people that I don't like, and that's a lot of people.
And I found myself recently wondering if I'm the problem. You know, is it wrong to dislike people?
Especially when they didn't do anything wrong, right? Like, am I in the wrong here?
Now, I never act upon my dislike, right? Majority of my feelings remain inside. You know, I never
treat people that I don't like badly. I never show people that I don't like them. I hide it
very well, as I think a lot of us do, you know? I know I'm not alone in this, by the way. This is
not like a unique experience to me. This is something that I know a lot of other people
experience because I talk about this with my friends. I talk about this with my family. I
know that this is something that is common to experience. And I know that most of us hide it
really well. So in theory, it's kind of harmless because the people that we dislike don't really
know that we dislike them. But I still feel sort of guilty about it. And I still ask myself
frequently if I'm the problem, if it's wrong to dislike people, especially for no reason.
I feel like the sort of stereotypical positive narrative in the world is that
you should love everybody. Now, this can mean a lot of things, you know? Loving everybody can mean
to truly love everyone. And in your heart, find the good in everyone and choose to see that.
And only that, right? Or maybe not only that, but pretty much just that.
Loving everyone could mean appreciating people for what they show you in life,
whether that's directly positive or indirectly positive. So like you might love someone who
beat you in your fifth grade softball game because that taught you how to be a good loser.
You know what I'm saying? Even though you kind of dislike that person because they beat you,
they indirectly taught you something that was positive. And so you love them for that.
Or let's say your first boyfriend cheated on you. Maybe you can find love for your first boyfriend
because that experience taught you a lot about your own independence. So in turn, you love that
person because your experience with them taught you something valuable. I mean, I don't really
know what it means to love everybody, but I feel like this is something we see posted on social
media or written on a t-shirt, and it really could mean so many different things. But in a lot of
ways, I think it's kind of unrealistic, right? I think you can find appreciation for everyone in
some way, but then again, like some people do some really fucked up shit to you. I don't know if you
can always find love and appreciation for people. There are going to be times in life when you can't.
I don't know. I feel like this sounds great in theory, but I think it's sort of a catchy headline.
Like, oh, we need to love everybody. I think that statement, it's too broad to be helpful. Do you
know what I'm saying? It's too broad to be helpful. It's excluding so many potential scenarios where
it's like if someone kills your dog on purpose, are you going to love that person? I don't know if
you can, right? In any way, shape, or form. So I don't know. Maybe I'm being too analytical about
it, but regardless, this sort of idea that, you know, we should love everybody and stuff, I think
has sort of sat in the back of my head and made me feel guilty anytime I've ever disliked someone.
And maybe that's because I have a misunderstanding of the sentiment around loving everybody.
I'm not quite sure. But I think this sort of narrative that we see floating around can make
us feel bad at times for just simply disliking people because we do. What I've been really trying
to figure out is whether or not it's wrong. Like, is it wrong to not like people even if it's just
in your head? Is it wrong? Because I've sort of convinced myself that it might be,
but I'm not so sure. So I sort of went soul-searching on the internet. If that's even
possible, to go soul-searching on the internet. I don't know. See, like that seems a little bit
ironic to me, right? If anything, soul-searching happens everywhere but on the internet. But
I did do some research. I started out by researching why we dislike people,
and I found a handful of reasons. It could stem from bad social experiences in your past.
It could stem from trust issues. Both of those things being prevalent in almost everyone's life,
right? I think everyone has had bad social experiences, and I think almost everyone has
some form of trust issues. It's impossible to go through your whole life and never get burned,
never get fucked over. And every time we have an experience where we get burned or we get
fucked over, it's almost like we become a little bit more sensitive, and a little bit more keen,
and a little bit more aware. And when we're out in the world looking for friends, looking for
potential significant others, we're trying to find somebody who doesn't set off our signals.
We're trying to find somebody who doesn't remind us in some way of who burned us in the past.
It's like we have muscle memory in a way. But I guess the more bad experiences you've had with
people, the more sensitive you're going to be when it comes to going out in the world and finding
new people. Because the likelihood that someone's going to trigger a memory or a feeling that you
once got from someone who hurt you is higher because you've had so many more bad experiences
and you have so much more muscle memory. I think that this could definitely be a part of why
I dislike a lot of people. I definitely have a decent amount of muscle memory, as most of us do.
And at times, my muscle memory can misread a situation. I can pick up on something that
reminds me of a bad memory without me even realizing it, and then be like, I don't like
that person. And I might not even realize it at the time. I might never realize it,
why that specific person just rubbed me the wrong way and I just didn't like them.
So that's an interesting reason. I also read that hyper-awareness of the bigger picture in life
can make it harder to find people you like. Because chances are you're not entertained
or stimulated by small talk or material conversations, which are the type of
conversations that are the most comfortable to have. It's not very comfortable to meet someone
and then right off the bat start talking about deep stuff. I mean, listen, every once in a while,
you'll get two people in a room who have that ability to just open up that can of worms
immediately. But for the most part, a lot of us feel more comfortable starting out conversations
with strangers in a way that's low risk. Small talk, material conversations, it's just easy.
And if you're someone who sees the bigger picture in life, then you're going to immediately be
bored by new people 99% of the time, because most people who are coming up to you and talking to
for the first time are not going to bring up anything mentally stimulating. They're probably
going to bring up some boring surface level shit because that's what's comfortable and easy to do.
I don't think that this one applies to me personally, because I definitely would say I'm
aware of the bigger picture in life and that's something that I focus on frequently and discuss
frequently with my close friends and family, right? But at the same time, I understand that
it's uncomfortable meeting a stranger. There are going to be times when someone meets me
and they don't feel comfortable talking about deeper topics or more mentally stimulating
topics right off the bat. That totally makes sense to me. So I feel like I have a level of
patience there. So that one didn't really apply to me, but it might apply to you listening. So
we're mentioning it. I also read that a lot of people have unrealistic expectations about others.
I've actually made a podcast episode about this, having unrealistically high expectations for
people. You know, if you're expecting everyone you meet to have the same interests as you,
be as outgoing as you, have the same sense of humor as you, like if you're expecting those
type of things out of others, you're always going to end up disappointed. The problem is a lot of
we set those types of expectations subconsciously. And to be honest, I think I'm guilty of this at
times, although I'm not sure if I'm able to turn it off. But at the same time,
I don't mind when somebody has different interests to me, different sense of humor.
Sometimes those things can end up not being ideal for me. Sometimes those are traits that
make me dislike somebody, but sometimes they're traits that don't really matter to me. So I guess
it just depends. I also read that you might dislike a lot of people if you dislike yourself.
Now this one was uncomfortable for me to reflect upon because I think that there is probably some
truth there. I mean, for me, you know, I think there's, I mean, obviously there's truth there
in general, but for me personally, I also think that there might be some truth there.
I really confuse myself because in a lot of ways I do dislike myself, but I also
appreciate myself in a lot of ways. I don't know. I have a really cloudy sort of understanding of
how I feel about myself. And so I'm not really properly able to pinpoint if this is an issue
because there are times when I appreciate myself, but there are also times when
I loathe myself or I feel like I'm an imposter. Like I have imposter syndrome. I feel like I
don't deserve things. I feel like, you know, a cheater, even when I didn't cheat at anything,
you know, that's kind of what imposter syndrome is. But yet there are also times that I appreciate,
I don't know. So I don't know. But I think there are definitely things that I dislike about myself.
I'm insecure about, et cetera. And I think that that probably applies to 10% of the people that
I just dislike for no reason. Maybe somebody triggers a little bit of jealousy in me,
just a little bit, maybe a lot. And so I dislike them because I'm a little jealous of them.
That's definitely happened. That definitely happens. I usually can tell though, when I
don't like somebody because I'm jealous of them for some reason, and I'm able to sort of turn that
one off. I hate admitting it to myself, but I feel like I'm pretty good about turning that one off.
I can't always though. I also read that feeling like you can't be yourself around others can make
you dislike people because it makes you uncomfortable when you feel like you can't be
yourself. And it might not necessarily be the other person's fault that for whatever reason,
you don't feel safe to express yourself. But anytime you have to stifle your personality or
hide your personality or change your personality, even you're likely going to resent the people
who made you feel that way, because they put you into an uncomfortable position.
Whether they did it deliberately or not, I've definitely felt intimidated by people or judged
by people in a way that made me feel like I need to alter my personality in some way. And that
always upsets me. I also read that you might dislike people just because you're easily irritated.
You're somebody who's just simply easily irritated. Or you just believe all people
are bad. Some people go through life believing that all people are bad.
Sort of like guilty until proven innocent. I'm not sure if I'm easily irritated.
I think internally I might be at times. Never externally. You can never tell. But I think
internally I can get irritated pretty easily. But it also depends on my mood. Because I can
also be incredibly patient. See, I am really patient actually. I am pretty patient. But
if I'm tired or I'm exhausted, yeah, I'm going to get irritated easily. I'll hide it.
But I guess that one's kind of 50-50. I definitely don't believe all people are bad. I actually tend
to assume the best in people and then get disappointed. I would say that's probably what
happens to me more often. So I don't know if that one applies to me. The last thing I read about
was introversion. Being an introvert. If you have an introverted personality type,
you feel drained by excessive interactions with people and the mental stimulation that it requires
to be social. And that sort of exhaustion can cause you to just dislike a lot of people because
it sort of goes against your nature to be social all the time. And so your tendency to get exhausted
socially can lead you to frustration easily with people. Even if they're cool or nice or whatever,
you might end up disliking them just because you're introverted.
This was really fascinating to me because I've never really been able to figure out
if I'm an introvert or an extrovert. If you're extroverted, it means you actually feel drained
when you're alone and you gain energy and recharge by being social. If you're introverted,
it's the opposite. You recharge when you're alone and you sort of lose energy when you're
being too social. I've never been able to figure out which one I am because I feel like both are
true for me. But more often I feel like I recharge when I'm alone and I feel drained from hanging out
with people. But when I'm out being social, like I can enjoy myself sometimes and I can be outgoing
and whatever. So I've always been very confused by it. So I took a test and apparently I'm something
called an ambivert, which means I am not an introvert or an extrovert. I experience both,
which I would say is pretty accurate. But the test I took also said that I'm leaning more towards
being introverted, which was also what I expected. So that could kind of explain
why I dislike a lot of people because for the most part I'm introverted.
After doing that research and sort of having an understanding of why I might be disliking people
and why we as humans dislike people in general, I started to look into the morality of disliking
people. Is it morally wrong to dislike people? And what was really interesting was I did not
find a lot of answers. I did not find a lot of answers. I did not find a lot of articles
about this topic, but I did find one by the Harvard Crimson. Here are the key takeaways
from the article. The article was actually in support of disliking people and even hating
people, which kind of blew my mind. I was like, wow, this is a really reputable website, I feel.
I mean, this article is by the Harvard Crimson, which is like, I guess, Harvard,
the very prestigious college's daily newsletter. Listen, I mean, technically it was an opinion
piece, so we'll take with that what we will, but this article was in support of disliking people
and even hating people, so that was shocking. This person writes that there are three main
reasons to dislike or even hate. Number one, to demonstrate moral awareness.
Two, to make life more interesting. And number three, people actually deserve it sometimes.
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. A lot of times, disliking people and sharing that
dislike with maybe your close friends or family sort of shows what you don't align with in a
person. I also do think disliking people is interesting. It would be boring to like everyone.
It would be so boring. Like, what would be the point of having friends? How would you even figure
out who your friends are if you just kind of liked everyone? It's what separates one person to the
next. In order to like and even love someone, you need to know what it feels like to dislike and
even hate someone, right? It also is a topic of conversation that can be interesting. You know,
when you dislike somebody, you might call your best friend and analyze their personality for
an hour and not feel bored for a second. I can't tell you how often I do that. I do that all the
time. You know what I'm saying? It does make life kind of interesting. And also, it is true that
sometimes people do deserve to not be liked. I mean, I probably deserve to not be liked at times.
It's fair for people to not like me. It sucks. I prefer it not to happen. I do what I can to avoid
it. But some people might find me annoying. Actually, no, I'm not going to say some people
might. Some people do find me annoying. Some people might have met me on a bad day when I
was maybe in a cold mood or I was upset and I was withdrawn and I didn't want to be social.
Like, you know, there are valid reasons out there for people to not like me, and that's okay.
But also, there are other people out there who maybe somewhat deserve to not be liked either.
Like, I think it's fair. I think it is fair to an extent, I guess.
In this article, I also read that disliking people is sort of a sign that you're observant.
I also think that that's kind of true. I mean, if you don't see red flags in anyone,
you don't pick up on bad energy in anyone, you're sort of down to hang with whoever,
that's not necessarily the worst way to live your life, right? But there is a good chance that
you're going to get burned at some point because you might be missing something. Because the truth
is, not everyone is great. If you don't have this sort of guttural feeling of dislike for people,
sometimes, then what's going to sort of stop you from spending time with someone
who maybe is bad news? Do you know what I'm saying? It's like, in order to protect yourself
from spending time with people who don't deserve it, even if it's just for a vague reason,
it's like you almost have to feel dislike in order to protect yourself in a way.
It's sort of a protection mechanism that only works if you're observant.
And so, that seemed fair to me too. That made a lot of sense to me too.
This article also talked about how it's important to have people in your life that you dislike
because it sets up contrasts with those who we really love and respect. As I mentioned earlier,
it's almost like you can't experience love and respect without feeling
dislike and hatred somewhere else in your life. If you just loved and respected everyone,
then it wouldn't be special when you felt love and respect. Those feelings have to be earned.
And there's no sense of earning it if everyone gets that from you.
So, that was also kind of interesting.
The last point from this article basically just explains how it's better to hate privately,
smile tolerantly in public, give fake hellos, keep your dislike inside. And if you're able to
do it that way, this article argues that it's healthy, harmless, and a whole lot of fun, which
is like a crazy thing to say. I mean, listen, this was an opinion piece. This is someone else's
opinion. But it resonated with me because everything that was stated made me feel good
about my dislike for people and sort of made me feel like it wasn't wrong. And that's a relief to
me because I've never really been able to turn it off. But yet I felt this sort of guilt about it
that kind of came from nowhere. I mean, as I mentioned earlier, I think it's sort of from this
narrative that we hear floating around growing up about how we're supposed to love everybody.
And, you know, some kids probably don't take that too literally. Other kids do. And I think
maybe I was one of the kids that just took it too literally and was like, well, God, am I bad if I
don't like someone? And that sort of just stuck with me for years. And this was the specific
article that resonated with me the most. But if you just Google, is it wrong to dislike people?
The recommended result says it's absolutely normal to dislike people or have negative feelings about
Disliking, spending time with others, or just generally preferring to be alone
can be signs of personality traits like introversion. However, feelings of constant,
pervasive, and intense hatred for others may be a sign of something more serious.
If your hatred is causing distress, leading to isolation, and negatively affecting your mental
well-being, it's important to take a closer look at the causes and consider talking to a mental
health professional. Yeah, thank you verywellmind.com because that was very well put for me.
I think that this really brings this conversation to a conclusion here. I mean, I think it is morally
okay to dislike people. I think it's human to dislike people. And I think in a lot of ways,
it's incredibly necessary. I don't think it's possible to not dislike people. And I don't think
that's even something that needs to be strived for. As long as you're treating others with kindness
and respect and as much empathy as you possibly can, dislike them all you want. That's kind of
the conclusion I'm coming to. I think it's when your dislike is causing pain to yourself or others
that it becomes an issue. You know, if your mind is tortured by negative thoughts towards people,
yeah, that's a sign that something's off balance. That's a sign that there's something deeper going
on that needs to be resolved. But just innocently disliking people here and there, I don't think
it's a problem. And you know what? That is exciting to me because this has bothered me for a long
time now, this question of whether or not it was wrong. And my conclusion today is that it's not.
And so what I'm thrilled about is my new life, disliking people in peace for once.
Because I've been disliking people and then feeling guilty about it for years.
And I've been disliking people and feeling like I'm the problem for years. When, yeah,
there are maybe times when I am the problem because somebody makes me jealous or somebody
makes me feel competitive or somebody intimidates me, even though they don't mean to, in a way that
makes me feel like I can't be myself. Or maybe somebody catches me at the wrong time and I'm
socially drained and need to go recharge by myself. There are going to be times when I'm
the reason why I dislike someone. But I'm always going to handle it with kindness.
Well, as much as I can. And I'm always going to give people a second chance when I think they
deserve it. But I'm not going to invalidate my feelings anymore. You know, I'm going to let
myself dislike people. Now, hatred is a whole other story. Maybe we'll discuss hatred another
day. But that's a topic for a whole other day. Well, I need to go dislike people out in the
world now. So that's what I'm going to go do. I'm excited. I don't know who's next, who my next
victim is. They won't know it. They won't know how I feel. But inside, I will know. I'm kidding.
Well, I'm actually I am kidding because I'm not. I'm kind of hoping I don't have any sort of social
interaction for the next 48 hours. And I think that that's actually going to happen for me. So
I'm actually looking forward to that instead. But anyway, thank you all for listening and hanging
out. As always, let me know what you thought of this topic. You can tweet me at AG podcast or
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discount on chamberlaincoffee.com. You can tune in to new episodes of Anything Goes every Thursday
and Sunday where I talk about more stuff. And as much as I just talked about how I dislike everyone,
I do really love and appreciate all of you. I mean, listen, there's a chance that we might meet
each other and dislike each other. There's a chance you might meet me in person and be like,
oh, her energy sucks. I actually dislike her. And you know what? That's okay. But as far as I know,
I really do love and appreciate all of you. And I can't thank you enough for listening
and tuning in. Until next time, have a beautiful day and keep being awesome. I'll talk to you later.
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